WEBVTT - #372 Packers Unscripted: Opportunity knocking

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford. He is my trusted colleague West

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<v Speaker 1>Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios at

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field, West. We are one day closer to the

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<v Speaker 1>interim head coaching debut of Joe Philbin. It'll be Packers

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons at noon Central Time Sunday kick off at lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, we heard from Joe Philbin for a second

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<v Speaker 1>time since the decision was made on Wednesday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think if there was one really key thing I took

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<v Speaker 1>out of his address to the media is something that

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<v Speaker 1>he actually reiterated from his initial chat with the media

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, and that is that just because you're changing

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<v Speaker 1>coaches and maybe you're changing up a few thoughts in

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<v Speaker 1>the game plan, it doesn't mean there are some magic

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<v Speaker 1>plays that somebody's going to take a magic pill and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden things are going to turn around

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<v Speaker 1>and everything's gonna look different. It still comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>playing the game the right way, playing it hard, executing,

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<v Speaker 1>doing things in the crucial situations, and you're one on

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<v Speaker 1>one matchup, whatever that is, that's what's going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>this thing around. And that's the message that Joe Philbin

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<v Speaker 1>has for his football team. Yeah, Mike, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>handling insider inbox for what would be Thursday, and one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I wrote in there was, I I look at

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<v Speaker 1>it no matter if you are the Patriots or the Browns.

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<v Speaker 1>Every season starts off as a baseline. You're at an

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<v Speaker 1>average point. The winds you start to move up, the

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<v Speaker 1>losses you start to move down. When you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>just momentum. And as you get more of those wins,

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<v Speaker 1>it pulls you higher, and as you get more of

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<v Speaker 1>those losses, it pulls you lower. So as as you made,

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<v Speaker 1>you know your point there, And as Joe Wit or

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Philbin said, excuse me, you're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to just do something that's just gonna turn everything on

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<v Speaker 1>its head. But the one thing I think potentially Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Philbin coming into that head seat now does for this

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<v Speaker 1>team is allows them to reset a little bit, allows

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<v Speaker 1>them to potentially change not necessarily the culture, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just some of the momentum, just some of the feel

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<v Speaker 1>around this team. I don't want to call it a

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<v Speaker 1>superstition or anything like that, but just doing something a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit differently to maybe just give you that type

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<v Speaker 1>of spark. But to your original point, what Joe Philbin

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, when you're at this point of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in week fourteen, there's four more weeks left here,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to be able to just do things

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<v Speaker 1>completely different. You're not gonna be able to just go

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<v Speaker 1>and change everything about the playbook or the overall scheme

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<v Speaker 1>because you've spent the last six seven months perfecting it

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<v Speaker 1>one way. So while they're gonna be some things they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look to streamline, there's gonna be some things they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to potentially change up, but maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>personnel combinations, the overall scheme is going to remain the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just about being effective in a fiship within that

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<v Speaker 1>same Yeah, another thing that I was interesting that Philbin

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<v Speaker 1>talked about. He actually talked about it, maybe more so

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday than he did on Wednesday, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of on both sides of the ball, even

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<v Speaker 1>special teams for that matter, but finding focusing in on

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<v Speaker 1>those three or four things that I like to call

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<v Speaker 1>him the hanger hat, on things, the things that everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>confident in that you can run on either side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in certain situations. And you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>apply that to the Packers struggles on third down, which

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<v Speaker 1>has lasted all season long, it really comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they never found those hang your hat

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<v Speaker 1>on type of things that, Okay, when it's third and four,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the concept we're gonna run. Now, nothing's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a hundred percent. But the Packers never found that

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<v Speaker 1>thing on third down in certain very manageable third down

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<v Speaker 1>situations that they felt they could rely on for a

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<v Speaker 1>high probability of success. And and it's easier said than done, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but Rogers I asked him about it at his locker

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<v Speaker 1>as well, not specifically about third down, but just about

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<v Speaker 1>Philbin's comment there, and he said, yeah, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>process to find those. We're gonna be working on that

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<v Speaker 1>this week. And he suggested that it's it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a couple of weeks to, you know, to try

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<v Speaker 1>to find those. It was almost as though the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>third down situation was a monster that fed on itself

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<v Speaker 1>because they just never they never found anything they could

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<v Speaker 1>sink their teeth into. Yeah, it's a microcosm of everything,

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<v Speaker 1>to be sure, and and you I don't ever, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recall you never played Madden, right like going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the nineties, never busted out the PlayStation. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, and this is completely simplifying everything

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<v Speaker 1>and dumbing it down and not making myself an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, But if you ever played your buddy in Madden,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that if it was third and four, there's

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<v Speaker 1>that one play, maybe two plays in the playbook that

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<v Speaker 1>you could run and you know you're gonna get five

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<v Speaker 1>yards out of it. And historically the Packers have had

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<v Speaker 1>some of those that you know, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be able to move the chains the stop

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<v Speaker 1>wrote with James Jones, like those kind of places where

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<v Speaker 1>you could run in a hundred times, you know ninety

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<v Speaker 1>times you're gonna be able to be able to actually

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<v Speaker 1>convert on it. That's what's lacked this year. Just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they've had to your original point to hang

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<v Speaker 1>your hat on type plays, the plays that you just

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<v Speaker 1>know that if you're closing your eyes and throwing the

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<v Speaker 1>ball out there, that you're gonna be able to complete

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<v Speaker 1>the pass or you're gonna be able to move the

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<v Speaker 1>pile to get the first down. That's what's haunted this team.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting listening to dan Quinn. Dan Quinn, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, when it comes to conference calls with the

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<v Speaker 1>posing head coaches, and I remember this from the past

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<v Speaker 1>few years because the Packers have played Atlanta a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn is as good as it gets on conference calls,

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<v Speaker 1>and and just his honesty, his openness and just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the big picture of things. Yeah, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel like when you're talking to dan Quinn that you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're like sitting at a ball the beverage or something.

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<v Speaker 1>When when he's on those conference calls, I totally get

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<v Speaker 1>what he has a coold Miller light, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>nice sparkling water and we're just talking ball. And but

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting hearing him talk about how maddening was

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<v Speaker 1>the word that he used. You know, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the sea the season that Matt Ryan has had

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and ten passer rating, Julio Jones receiving yards,

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Hooper is breaking out. You have playmakers on both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the ball, but they haven't executed enough. Their

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<v Speaker 1>run offense is thirty second in the league. The defense

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<v Speaker 1>didn't respond well enough to losing Dion Jones and Keyan O'Neill.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the situation they find themselves in. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a big crossroads for both of these teams. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Uh, you know, Quinn has already gotten

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<v Speaker 1>the the go ahead. He's gonna be the coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the future there uh in Atlanta. They've given him that

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<v Speaker 1>vote of confidence. But at the same time, both of

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<v Speaker 1>these teams desperately need to put a win together, not

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<v Speaker 1>only for their you know, own success, but just to

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<v Speaker 1>change that momentum because with the Falcons coming in on

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<v Speaker 1>a four game losing streak, the Packers making a change,

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<v Speaker 1>only one team can win theoretically, and it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>big for that team going into this final stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that we will definitely be keeping

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on this year as the rest of this

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<v Speaker 1>season plays out, and certainly the Packers personnel department g M.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Gouda Kunts will be watching. As we mentioned on

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<v Speaker 1>previous shows this week is Okay, who are some of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys who are going to be part of the future.

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<v Speaker 1>There are gonna be a lot of personnel decisions made

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<v Speaker 1>in the offseason here coming up, whether you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>free agency, whether you're talking about players to target in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, all that kind of stuff. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young players here for the Packers who have

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity in front of them over these final four games.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not quite the same as the opportunities we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in August in preseason games, because yes, those

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<v Speaker 1>are those are situations you're trying to make an impression,

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to make the roster, the fight for roster

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<v Speaker 1>spots at the end of the summer, all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But those preseason performance has always come with

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<v Speaker 1>the caveat of, well, yeah, that's against second string guys

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<v Speaker 1>and third string guys and these other guys who got

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<v Speaker 1>cut from those teams, and so what can they really

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<v Speaker 1>do well this last month of the regular season. This

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<v Speaker 1>is against full fledged NFL frontline players, and whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about fullback Danny Vitally, whether you're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>young defensive lineman and Tyler Lancaster, a seventh round pick

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<v Speaker 1>from Southeast Missouri, Kendall Donnerson, who spent the first three

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<v Speaker 1>quarters of the season on the practice squad. He's now

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<v Speaker 1>on the active roster for the final four games of

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<v Speaker 1>this season. Maybe he gets a chance either as an

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<v Speaker 1>edge rusher and or to do some things on special

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<v Speaker 1>teams over these last four games. The personnel department is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have their eye on these guys because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get a better evaluation of them then

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<v Speaker 1>you will in these next four weeks. Well, and the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I really appreciate. I wrote about this an Insider

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<v Speaker 1>in Box talking to Tyler Lancaster on on Wednesday about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is incredibly important for him. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a second preseason. Not necessarily, you know, the winds

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<v Speaker 1>certainly matter here, but it's a chance to ramp everything

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<v Speaker 1>up against teams and NFL starters and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>next week a Bears team that's looking to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>position itself for the playoffs. Here in the stakes don't

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<v Speaker 1>get any higher for young players like that. The reality is, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>there's fifty three players on this active roster right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's seventies six guys that have some type of contract

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<v Speaker 1>though with the Packers when you factor in the practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad and injured reserve. So the reason why a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys have gotten their opportunities has been because

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<v Speaker 1>of injury. It's been because of how the season has

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<v Speaker 1>played out. And you're gonna have to go back into

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<v Speaker 1>training camp next year in jockey for that same position

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<v Speaker 1>once again. The thing that's tough for the Packers at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in time you lose Kevin King, he goes

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<v Speaker 1>on i R for the year with the hamstring injury

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<v Speaker 1>that he was dealing with Trey Carson goes on I R.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you're claiming, guys, you have Natrelle Jamerson coming

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<v Speaker 1>in here, who was a safety for Wisconsin playing cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>now with the Packers. A guy like that is coming

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<v Speaker 1>in one to show what he can do and offer

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the season. And getting back to the

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<v Speaker 1>first player you named, Danny Vitally, this is a great

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for him. This is a young man that Caiman is,

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<v Speaker 1>a sixth round pick of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The

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<v Speaker 1>super back coming out of Northwestern, did everything for the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats and now he's trying to make his way as

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL fullback. It looked like his place was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in Cleveland. Played twenty four games, started nine

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<v Speaker 1>of them, lead them in special teams tackles last year.

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<v Speaker 1>While calf injury results in him going on I R.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets cut in mid October, and here's the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers. The first year since maybe ever, they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a fullback on the roster. They signed to the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad. Now he's up played in his first game

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<v Speaker 1>last week. Tell a guy like Danny Vitally that this

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<v Speaker 1>is not an important time for him. This is critical

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<v Speaker 1>because there's only nine of those positions right now in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, and he has one of them. He wants

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<v Speaker 1>to show the Packers that they had made the right move. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be I'll be really curious to see just how

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<v Speaker 1>this unfolds with the young players. And as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers are not going to go into full preseason

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<v Speaker 1>mode here in terms of in terms of resting the

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<v Speaker 1>frontline players and resting starters. They're going to work in

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<v Speaker 1>some of these younger guys to give them opportunities. But

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't about sitting Aaron Rodgers for three quarters of

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<v Speaker 1>the games, or or sitting Davante Adams so that he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get hurt. That's not what this is about. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's it's a balancing act. But you know, my, my,

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<v Speaker 1>my personal opinion, four or five snaps for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Danny Vitally in a December regular season nf L

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<v Speaker 1>game is worth twenty five preseason snaps in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the evaluation you get because of the competition he's going. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going against other guys who made NFL rosters. This

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the preseason where you don't even know if those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are ever going to make it in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and look at Lancaster. Tyler Lancaster's very suddenly the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers starting nose tackle. He started the year on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad. Yeah, when they're in their base. Look now

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's he's officially a start. He's one of the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall Donnerson who you talked to this week. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a guy that was a seventh round pick

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers, had all the intangibles in the world

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<v Speaker 1>you look for, but was raw and now and making

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a position transition, being a defensive end from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a smaller Division one school, but at two

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<v Speaker 1>fifty pounds, that's an outside linebacker in the NFL. Exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Reggie Gilbert made the same transition. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry's on I R. Clay Matthews is dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>an ankle injury. Kendall Donnerson's probably going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>that rotation Sunday against the Falcons. What can he do

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<v Speaker 1>with those what can he do with those snaps? And

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<v Speaker 1>then getting back to original point about fatality, was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to him about this as well. Listen, it's the NFC North,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys from the Chicago Land area. He he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what December football is like. He's been a part of

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<v Speaker 1>it his entire life, whether it was high school or

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<v Speaker 1>at Northwestern, So he gets what this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like here and what the importance is of having a

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<v Speaker 1>more traditional type fullback in that role in having them

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<v Speaker 1>available in the NFC North. So he's definitely looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to that. And then you look across the board, as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it's not about guys that are gonna be sitting,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jake Kumro is gonna get opportunities now because of

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<v Speaker 1>the attrition at that position. You know, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get guys like Robert Tanyan that probably are gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>more looks. You've already seen how you know, Justin mccraize

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly finds himself back in the starting lineup again after

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<v Speaker 1>injuries to Lane Taylor and Byron Bell. So, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that this season works and the way the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and December works for teams that maybe aren't necessarily in

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the playoff competition, there's still a lot

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<v Speaker 1>on the line there for the young guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>roster trying to prove to Brian good at Constant in

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<v Speaker 1>the front office that come January, come February, come March,

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<v Speaker 1>I deserve to be in this team's plans. Yeah. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's one thing I've learned in my thirteen seasons in

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<v Speaker 1>this chair, so to speak from you know, working for

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com and and seeing things from the inside

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<v Speaker 1>and just being around it every day, the the competitive

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<v Speaker 1>nature of not only these guys as individuals and as athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>but the competitive nature of the business in general, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what it takes to make a roster or

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<v Speaker 1>even just get that opportunity to be on the practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>and then not that you're hoping for anybody to get hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're on the practice squad hoping that by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season you're going to get a shot

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<v Speaker 1>on the fifty three and then from the fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>get on the game day forty six to get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to get into games. This is this, This stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is not not to be taken lightly. Now, obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are you know, the playoffs and all the dominoes

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<v Speaker 1>that have to fall for that is a complete pipe dream.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about. This is about these guys proving that

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<v Speaker 1>they have a future in this league and they want

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<v Speaker 1>their here right now. So you know what, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. They want to stay here, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't they don't want to be the guy that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being discussed upstairs as to well should we move on

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<v Speaker 1>and should we look in the draft and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is serious business. Well and how many times, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>especially during your time covering this team, have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>a young player, undrafted, practice squad, draft pick, it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>in that December stretch really start to turn some heads.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Clark did it last year. Dean Lowry has done

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<v Speaker 1>it the past two decembers. Now has really come on

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<v Speaker 1>strong late. You've seen over the years different receivers running back,

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<v Speaker 1>even think of like Dewan Harris in two thousand twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>go from the practice squad and he's starting playoff games

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers and then went into the following year,

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<v Speaker 1>is their quote unquote starting running back. Those type of

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<v Speaker 1>things happen, and they happen on the back of what

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to accomplish in that final slate of games.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to speak for Joe Philbin. He's his

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<v Speaker 1>own man. He knows what he's looking for from this roster,

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<v Speaker 1>but just reading between the lines of his words, the

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<v Speaker 1>number one thing he wants to see in this stretch

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<v Speaker 1>here as effort. It wants to see guys laying it

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. Wants to see who it matters to

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<v Speaker 1>the most, because that is really where you finally start

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<v Speaker 1>to learn the character of a team and what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to them, you know, depending on what happens he's

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<v Speaker 1>next few weeks and what exactly you're playing for at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, it is it's a matter of pride. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of going out there and doing your job

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<v Speaker 1>and showing that you know you have what it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to play at this level in meaningful situations and have

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<v Speaker 1>a future in this league. Yeah. Well, we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>the keys to victory and how this how the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>exactly match up with this Atlanta Falcons team on our

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<v Speaker 1>final show of the week tomorrow, but for now we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to call it a rap on this edition of

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