Speaker 1: Thanks real, welcome to Busting with the Boys. I was
Speaker 1: just talking to our one of our fearless Workerman leaders,
Speaker 1: a videographer, Jack McPherson, about his new segment shout out,
Speaker 1: no free shout out out of the week, and I
Speaker 1: think we're just a little too much language though, right, boys,
Speaker 1: But we're gonna go shout up, shout out of the week,
Speaker 1: shout out of the week, and I think you guys
Speaker 1: are all gonna enjoy it. The boys are going to
Speaker 1: take part. But before we get into that, we need
Speaker 1: to talk about something very important. And I had a
Speaker 1: little adversity before we got on the pod with UH.
Speaker 1: I like it when my timers up and the timer
Speaker 1: wasn't up and JP really let me down on that.
Speaker 1: But now Jack, taking the reins from JP, said go
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Speaker 1: out and no free shouts to Jack, it's not part
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Speaker 1: I think that went fantastic. I don't want to thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. One for the boy, one for the boy.
Speaker 1: And you're wondering, where's where's Will? Where's Will Compton at?
Speaker 1: Where's where's the guy with the most beautiful teeth at
Speaker 1: this side of the Mississippi, the man who's powering through
Speaker 1: possibly a year or ten in the NFL, A man
Speaker 1: that gives his heart and soul of this podcast every week.
Speaker 1: And there's only really one answer for that. It's because
Speaker 1: we're still on Baby Watch Baby wach here we go,
Speaker 1: baby baby baby.
Speaker 2: What that's right?
Speaker 1: Will Compton Compton and Charles Compton used to be called
Speaker 1: Bishop is still waiting on their beautiful little girl, which
Speaker 1: he has not told me the name of yet, which
Speaker 1: is kind of frustrating. He has not had that child yet,
Speaker 1: and we're going down the road. I know what moms
Speaker 1: are thinking right now. Anyone who's had a child before,
Speaker 1: they know that last month, and I'm looking in the
Speaker 1: back to a bunch of guys that don't have kids
Speaker 1: that last month. Every week, another pound comes, another pound comes,
Speaker 1: and it's a little stressful.
Speaker 2: You're uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: You got that U Sha pillow that maybe Will stealing
Speaker 1: because I sold that from my wife because that's a
Speaker 1: good snuggle buddy. And it's at this point you're just
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. You've got nothing to do with it. It's
Speaker 1: so frustrating. Listen up, I'm sure, and I'm hoping to god.
Speaker 1: It's Monday right now. Let's hit the Wednesday. When Wednesday hits,
Speaker 1: hopefully that baby is born, healthy, happy, mom's safe. Will
Speaker 1: gets a good old fashioned crying and we can all
Speaker 1: celebrate with him on our social media platforms of our choosing.
Speaker 1: Speaking of social media, YouTube, you guys have absolutely murdered it.
Speaker 1: The Brandon Show YouTube video came out and Will's got
Speaker 1: all the numbers all the time, and he bounces it
Speaker 1: back and forth, barstol because he's the numbers guy, he
Speaker 1: writes stuff down. I'm not a big numbers guy writing
Speaker 1: stuff down, guy, But the YouTube, the numbers, we're in
Speaker 1: the six figures. Boys, we're in the six figures right now.
Speaker 1: And that's a big deal. And it's all the viewers.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't be anything without you, guys, right, be a
Speaker 1: couple dipshits to sit in here talking about god knows
Speaker 1: what while no one listens to us. What you need
Speaker 1: to do to keep this train going into the stratosphere.
Speaker 1: The train is a bad one, getting this rocket ship
Speaker 1: to shoot into the atmosphere is I need you to
Speaker 1: go to YouTube, go to your audio, which everyone whether
Speaker 1: it's Spotify, Apple. That's the best thing about us, baby,
Speaker 1: We're everywhere. We're absolutely everywhere. You need to go subscribe
Speaker 1: and then do a little secret unsubscribe and resubscribe and
Speaker 1: you doing that along with the comments, the engagement following
Speaker 1: busting on Instagram, on we have Facebook, correct Facebook, we
Speaker 1: have a TikTok too, we hat a Twitter, all of
Speaker 1: those things, you guys follow engage. It just helps the
Speaker 1: numbers go up, It helps more. I seeing it. It's
Speaker 1: a shameless ask, is what it is. But I'm over
Speaker 1: here just a man on having a prey right now,
Speaker 1: hoping to God that you guys pick it up. Maybe
Speaker 1: it goes in your ear and it comes out your
Speaker 1: mouth and onto your fingertips and you go ahead and
Speaker 1: do those things for us. We love you guys so
Speaker 1: much it's unbelievable. Now we have a new little fun
Speaker 1: segment for you guys this week, a little cough, a
Speaker 1: new fun segment.
Speaker 2: It's called shout Out of the Week, no free shoutouts. Now.
Speaker 1: The issue with shout Out of the Week no free
Speaker 1: shoutouts is every week's a new week, so there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a different person every single time. All right, that
Speaker 1: person you shout it out last week, you may no
Speaker 1: longer want to shout out. And here's the thing about
Speaker 1: this thing the bus is if you have an opinion
Speaker 1: about something being bang boom, baby, you can go back
Speaker 1: on that thing one to eighty and I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: get to that someday. You know, your boy, I had
Speaker 1: to flip flop sides or you like I'm flapjacks.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I had them things a little crispy, and sometimes one's
Speaker 1: a little more cooked than the other. So let's start
Speaker 1: with shout out, no free shout out of the weeks,
Speaker 1: the sorry shout out no free shoutouts of the week.
Speaker 1: Let's go with the boys, Bloss, please hit me with
Speaker 1: your shout out no free shut out of the week.
Speaker 4: So my shot out of the week this week, I
Speaker 4: don't know if he saw me tweet about it was
Speaker 4: actually to George Kittle.
Speaker 2: Oh forty nine ers guy who would.
Speaker 4: Have thought, yeah, a little bias, little bias, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And the reason being is I've never seen anybody take
Speaker 4: so much time responding to like all his fans and
Speaker 4: wishing them a happy birthday. You could go on his
Speaker 4: Twitter and just scroll on all the people he replies
Speaker 4: to and wishes them a happy birthday.
Speaker 2: So my free shout out goes to George Kittle, the
Speaker 2: George Kittle, everybody.
Speaker 1: George Kittle an amazing human being, an absolute talent on
Speaker 1: the field, a great guy, and the people signed in
Speaker 1: for a reason.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: He's out there.
Speaker 1: He's only out there shaking hand kissing babies in public,
Speaker 1: but he's doing the same thing on the social media.
Speaker 2: And I love that about you, Bloss.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Way to stick to your roots
Speaker 1: on that JP. What do you got for us on
Speaker 1: the shout out and no free shot out of the week?
Speaker 6: Mine goes to not a person but a country.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, I would like to shout out in Japan Japan.
Speaker 6: One okay, one for the cuisine.
Speaker 2: All right, got a love.
Speaker 7: They dropped the video, the full audio video of Will
Speaker 7: Smith and Chris Rock.
Speaker 1: Hey, shout out Japan, shout out Ja, the country of Japan. Man,
Speaker 1: absolutely unreal. Got a little shaky with them back in
Speaker 1: the thirties and four or forties.
Speaker 2: Am I right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now we're back, Baby, We're back because you want the
Speaker 1: whole video. A wild deal, the the Will Smith thing,
Speaker 1: Chris Rock. We'll get to that in a little bit.
Speaker 1: Outstanding shut out, no free shot outs of the week,
Speaker 1: dak What do we got for your shout.
Speaker 2: Out of the week? My boy?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 5: Mine's not a person nor a country, but an activity.
Speaker 2: Oh we're just gonna hit them all today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I think that should be the
Speaker 3: thing too with this.
Speaker 5: It's not just specific to one aspect of life for
Speaker 5: a person, but mine is eating.
Speaker 2: Out alone.
Speaker 1: Solid.
Speaker 5: Last night I went hit up a local spot, Nobles
Speaker 5: in the East, got out in the wings, got a
Speaker 5: couple of beers and just you know, enjoyed the silence
Speaker 5: of myself and all yourself. It's just kind of one
Speaker 5: of those things you take it back and you know
Speaker 5: it's just is a beautiful feeling. There's nothing else to
Speaker 5: describe it. So, yeah, shouting out, no free shout outs,
Speaker 5: eating alone.
Speaker 1: God, eating alone is something special too. He used to
Speaker 1: go back in the days at Benny's, no free shoutouts
Speaker 1: and ann arbor a little breakfast on Saturday mornings, nursing
Speaker 1: that little hangover and have a little time to yourself,
Speaker 1: eating them grits, eating them potatoes, eating them them eggs.
Speaker 1: The fire deal recharges the batteries. That's a great shout out,
Speaker 1: free shadowt of the week. Yeah, you gotta get right
Speaker 1: with yourself where you can get right with the world.
Speaker 2: No question. Hey, I love that, Hey shout out. Oh
Speaker 2: that's that's stabbor clapper.
Speaker 1: But we're stapping and clapping and for the jack on
Speaker 1: that one. And ideas man an ideas. Man I like it. Garrett,
Speaker 1: What do you got for your shout out? No free
Speaker 1: shadout of the week.
Speaker 8: All right, my free shot out is going to go
Speaker 8: to the poll. The premiere Lacrosse League for joining ESPN.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, scoop back a little bit. Hey, I'm all right, Okay,
Speaker 2: think about Garrett, folks, he.
Speaker 1: Gets more beautiful. He is boss wants them to get
Speaker 1: back a little bit.
Speaker 8: I like that, all right, So shout out to the
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Speaker 1: Hey once a lacrosse are always a cross are my right?
Speaker 1: Oh that's a stutter in the words, but go ahead.
Speaker 8: But no, it's a big deal. All forty seven games
Speaker 8: will be on ESPN. So tune into ESPN this spring
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Speaker 2: God outstanding.
Speaker 1: Just a bunch of men with sticks and balls chasing
Speaker 1: each other around an absolute jaw dropping eat about it
Speaker 1: here time you step onto la crossfield, it's unbelievable. The hacking,
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Right, We're not grounding, we're not barefoot out there, but
Speaker 1: it's outstanding.
Speaker 2: Hey, shout out, no free.
Speaker 1: Shoutouts lacross everybody, just the entire sport. You guys in
Speaker 1: the Northeast are absolutely loving that one right now. And
Speaker 1: obviously I'm the last one on this bus moment of sound,
Speaker 1: for will not be able to do the first shot
Speaker 1: out of the week.
Speaker 2: He will be missed.
Speaker 1: However, my shout out came last night and I know
Speaker 1: we're all we're going to talk about it in a second,
Speaker 1: and I'm not picking sides here. I might pick sides
Speaker 1: swords to this thing because I'm a flip floppy bastard,
Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier. But a shout out to
Speaker 1: Chris Rock for absolutely taking the most disrespectful thing you
Speaker 1: can possibly get in your entire life, which is an
Speaker 1: open hand slap from another man. All of us here
Speaker 1: have been once in our life punched, pushed, or poke
Speaker 1: and when you are any of those things, there's a
Speaker 1: fire that burns inside you. I don't care if you're beata,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're out for somewhere in between,
Speaker 1: every time you feel that feeling, it's like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kill somebody right now. I want to absolutely murder this person.
Speaker 1: Will Smith definitely has taken a punching class or something
Speaker 1: like that. He had two feet strongly sturdily on the ground.
Speaker 1: He wound up quick, but he came fast. That man
Speaker 1: in his fifties has the fast twitch of a cat.
Speaker 2: It was unreal.
Speaker 1: Chris takes this thing like an absolute movie scene, hits it,
Speaker 1: kinks back and comes and he just goes. Will Smith
Speaker 1: slapped the shit out of me. Now here's where the
Speaker 1: shoutout actually comes in for me, the fact.
Speaker 2: That my man ate it.
Speaker 1: Blood's boiling right now right, I don't know what temperature
Speaker 1: it boils at, but it's definitely at that Fahrenhearer self Celsius.
Speaker 2: Will Smith walks away. He is rattled. He doesn't know
Speaker 2: where to go with himself.
Speaker 1: Then the man Will Smith says to him, keep my
Speaker 1: mind my wife's name out your fucking mouth. Not once,
Speaker 1: but twice. He doubled down on that thing, and this
Speaker 1: man handled it. I won't talk about your wife anymore.
Speaker 1: Stuttered through the documentary the documentary, and then he rattled
Speaker 1: through the Netflix joke, which we all probably would have
Speaker 1: loved if there wasn't just an absolute assault case happening
Speaker 1: right in front of us. But ate it was a
Speaker 1: professional and got to the next frame, got to the
Speaker 1: whole thing what he was there to do, which was
Speaker 1: present the documentaries.
Speaker 2: So shout out to Chris Rock with absolute scud on
Speaker 2: eating that. And I feel like that's a decent pivot voice.
Speaker 1: I want to get a couple of reactions, and I
Speaker 1: want a little back and forth here if he could
Speaker 1: what we just talked about, whose side are we taking
Speaker 1: right now? I know lost in the back, he's thinking
Speaker 1: that's a salt brother. He's a cop. You know, he'd
Speaker 1: have his ass pinned down pepper strate in no time. Right,
Speaker 1: Cuff him the bad way too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't even lock that thing. So he jiggles around
Speaker 1: a little bit and gets a little tighter, which happened
Speaker 1: to the Fred Taylor podcast, which will you will hear
Speaker 1: in just a moment.
Speaker 2: But Gary, you got the mic first, Let's see what
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 8: I'm not picking sides, but back to your form on
Speaker 8: Will Smith's little right, Yep, he did play Ali in
Speaker 8: a movie in two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: There it is. That had to be the reason why.
Speaker 2: Right is I am legend?
Speaker 3: So he is?
Speaker 1: And then man, he's tactical in that movie as well.
Speaker 1: Right he's a blind guy in that movie. Right, you
Speaker 1: got to have your senses. I'm taking fly Is I
Speaker 1: am legend?
Speaker 2: No? No, I'm legend. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Book of VLI, which was Denzel Washington.
Speaker 3: That's on me.
Speaker 2: Boys, both great actors, both great actors. And I'm not
Speaker 2: upset with my fault at all in that one.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I'm taking sides, and I'm.
Speaker 3: On Chris Rock.
Speaker 5: Chris Rock, it'd be different if he'd laid a joke
Speaker 5: down that was like really disrespectful, but it was an
Speaker 5: al a piece of joke, like you don't have hair,
Speaker 5: you have a condition, you can't go hair. That's gonna
Speaker 5: warrant you coming in and slapping a grown man on
Speaker 5: Like it just seems a little soft for me, and
Speaker 5: like we were kind of talking about it before here,
Speaker 5: but Will Smith's kind of been on.
Speaker 1: This roller coaster for the last two years, not just
Speaker 1: not just himself but him and his wife as.
Speaker 5: Well, literally, and she's done nothing to respect him. I mean,
Speaker 5: she's you know, been cheating and doing whatever, Yeah, entanglements,
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden he's out here defending
Speaker 5: her honor.
Speaker 2: It just seemed a little shaky.
Speaker 5: So but yeah, the way that Chris Rock handled himself
Speaker 5: just kind of took a moment was like that happened,
Speaker 5: and he's like, all right, well, we're gonna move on.
Speaker 5: And true professional cannot wait for his next stand up
Speaker 5: to come out because it's gonna be probably a heater.
Speaker 1: So it's probably gonna be a heater. Yeah, the greatest ninth
Speaker 1: in television.
Speaker 2: Absolute.
Speaker 1: He said that, I think that you gotta give a
Speaker 1: shout out too to Will Smith going on winning what
Speaker 1: Male Actor of the Year, And yeah, he listened. His
Speaker 1: two minutes and thirty second speech was a little shaky.
Speaker 1: That plane was tough to land. I'm not sure he
Speaker 1: really did land it, but damn he got up there,
Speaker 1: tears in the eyes. You know, his emotions are all
Speaker 1: over the place. He knows he messed up a little
Speaker 1: bit by doing that. Right, you want to defend on her,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to.
Speaker 2: Go about it.
Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't open the Handsmack a guy at all but
Speaker 1: you know, when there's a live performance going on one
Speaker 1: of the biggest nights in all of movies and entertainment,
Speaker 1: probably not the best time to do it.
Speaker 2: JP, what side are we on, baby, I kind.
Speaker 6: Of have a I'm kind of on the side of
Speaker 6: maybe it was fake.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I leaned up in the steed on
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 3: I just think.
Speaker 7: I mean, like, Jack was saying so much stuff has
Speaker 7: happened with his wife that he's never come at somebody,
Speaker 7: and then this happens, and it's like, you're that room
Speaker 7: is full of the best actors in the world.
Speaker 3: True, So you roll up there.
Speaker 7: The Oscars ratings have been down, it's been a mess,
Speaker 7: and then now everyone's buzzing.
Speaker 1: Oh, the boy's got a bit of a conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: going on right now. And let me scratch in the
Speaker 1: back of my head thinking about that.
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, the deal depends the only reason I
Speaker 6: think it might be real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I can understand that. But him is
Speaker 1: dropping a couple f bombs in that thing too. It's
Speaker 1: gotta be tough to think that that was fake. It's
Speaker 1: got to be tough. The propisia thing, or what is it,
Speaker 1: propicia alopecia Propicia's when you save the hair, right, I
Speaker 1: think there's a pill you can take. Will's been looking,
Speaker 1: he's been googling the whole thing. He's been going, Hey,
Speaker 1: you can't shoot the boy down one. I mean, what
Speaker 1: am I doing, dude? What am I doing?
Speaker 2: Right now? That's terrible?
Speaker 1: But I think you know, listen, she might be super
Speaker 1: insecure about it. I'll tell you what. What's her name, Jada.
Speaker 1: She's a gorgeous woman. Hair, no hair, wig, no wig,
Speaker 1: beautiful woman. She's an outstanding bone structure. Unless she's got
Speaker 1: a glow to her. I don't think she should be
Speaker 1: upset about the no hair. I think she looks phenomenal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she used to be a tupac. I did not know that.
Speaker 1: Here you go, baby, you're making history two times in
Speaker 1: a row, right, and well about a thirty year difference.
Speaker 1: Wait to stay on the map, honey. I love it
Speaker 1: to death, Bloss, give us. I want two things from you, Bloss.
Speaker 1: I want to know whose sides run as a pedestrian.
Speaker 1: And I want to know what you're asked to know
Speaker 1: and if you if you are in badging uniform in
Speaker 1: LA that night last night, so.
Speaker 2: Shout out to my buddy Corey Coy, Yeah to elaborate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he had.
Speaker 4: He had a cool quote that I kinda that I
Speaker 4: kind of took and I uh, I like reworded. It
Speaker 4: was like, people will judge you for what you did,
Speaker 4: but not what happened to you that made you snap.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that it was okay to handle that
Speaker 4: situation that way, but it's something to think about. People
Speaker 4: want to talk about, you know, what exactly happened, and.
Speaker 2: I like that they don't want to talk about.
Speaker 4: The underlining issues and what got him to that point.
Speaker 4: Something had to get him to that point, the snap,
Speaker 4: knowing that the world is watching on that stage and
Speaker 4: knowing that his acting career could possibly never be the same.
Speaker 4: So the human side of me is thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to that point, real quicke before you jump
Speaker 1: on the police part, you know, when they showed him first,
Speaker 1: he did the g I, Jane two, Joe Chris Rock.
Speaker 1: Did they pan over to Will Smith and Jada and
Speaker 1: he's got the smiles on. He's got them pearly whites
Speaker 1: in the air, right and he's smile and laughing. That's
Speaker 1: a good sure, he likes it because that's what we're doing, right,
Speaker 1: We roast people a little bit. Whether it's the SP's
Speaker 1: the Oscars, that's kind of the deal. Now, something must
Speaker 1: have happened in a transition where he looked at his wife.
Speaker 2: She was mad. Maybe maybe she said go do something.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not putting wounds in his mouth, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not putting words in his mouth. But I understand.
Speaker 1: I understand that quote, and I like a little. I
Speaker 1: like that on a Monday, that's nice, and for you listening,
Speaker 1: that's on Wednesday. But from a police officer standpoint, what
Speaker 1: do you got from me? Bib Oh, that's the definition
Speaker 1: of assault right there.
Speaker 3: So what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna make Are you gonna escalate the situation
Speaker 1: and go a restaum right there? You're gonna wait till
Speaker 1: he closes, get a couple ushers to grab him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in that in that moment, you just
Speaker 4: you gotta know where you're at. You gotta know kind
Speaker 4: of what's going on. You're not gonna go up on
Speaker 4: stage and you're not gonna arrest him or do anything
Speaker 4: like that, because first of all, he's got to want
Speaker 4: to prosecute and knowing Chris Rock, He's probably not doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he said he came out and said he
Speaker 1: was not doing your team Chris for.
Speaker 5: That because he's like, you know, he might have crossed
Speaker 5: the line, might have crossed the line and probably understood
Speaker 5: that and took that smack to the mouth and still
Speaker 5: was like, nah, I don't it's We're good.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a man's man.
Speaker 2: So that's a man's man.
Speaker 1: Huh do you think do you think at any other
Speaker 1: point they go settle in the back alley or something
Speaker 1: like that? Maybe them too, because I Will Smith got
Speaker 1: a head and shoulders over that guy, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Usually the comedians are the next pay per
Speaker 1: view fight. I like that rough and rowdy. Maybe Jake
Speaker 1: Paul puts one of those things on. Hell, Dana White
Speaker 1: might even jump in right in the UFC. Get something
Speaker 1: done there, send him over to Japan. Hit one of
Speaker 1: those little deals.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Get some sushi, carve up with the rice, get the
Speaker 1: protein with the fish, and have that in a kickboxing
Speaker 1: tournament or whatever they do of their no disrespect. Listen,
Speaker 1: I love the shout out, no free shadow of the week, boys,
Speaker 1: I think you all did a phenomenal job. Bloss thank
Speaker 1: you for giving us a little insight as a police officer.
Speaker 1: We talked about the Chevy Silverado. Now it's time to
Speaker 1: talk about what we're about to get into on this pod.
Speaker 1: That's Fred Taylor. One more shout out for Fred Taylor.
Speaker 1: I think he was outstanding. Obviously, you guys know Fred
Speaker 1: Taylor from being Will's words, not mine, the greatest Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguar of all time. Now, this man during COVID or
Speaker 1: right before COVID, decided to do a thing with imathlete
Speaker 1: when Pivot was on before him Channing and well RC
Speaker 1: wasn't a part of Iomathlete, but Channing was, and they
Speaker 1: kind of dove into that. If you guys want to
Speaker 1: listen to that podcast after you've done listening to this,
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Speaker 9: I fuck with whistle pig Bourbon. Yeah yeah, I do
Speaker 9: a nice little old fashion with that. So those are dope.
Speaker 9: Those are pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's whisky, your your go to.
Speaker 3: I drank everything a boy. I don't want to sound
Speaker 3: like I'm a lush, but I drank.
Speaker 2: Every Yeah, what's a lush?
Speaker 3: You know? You fucking drunk? Or wine or alcohol? Oh,
Speaker 3: an alcoholic for any of it?
Speaker 9: Like yeah, Like I can go to a party and
Speaker 9: I'm like, yo, like what do you gotta drink? What
Speaker 9: do you want to drink? Give me a hit and
Speaker 9: scene and code? Now we ain't got in thee. Give
Speaker 9: me Vodki and something. Now we ain't got vodka. Give
Speaker 9: me some now we got that. Give me some wine.
Speaker 9: Now we ain't got that. I'm gonna drink whatever.
Speaker 1: What bar are you going to that doesn't sell those things?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: We got that ever clear.
Speaker 3: You take a dude about, Hey, we just got everclare.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: Let me get I ain't fucking with that. You get
Speaker 3: a chaser with that.
Speaker 9: If you go through these uh uh charity events, Yeah,
Speaker 9: it ain't top shelf all the time. It's just some
Speaker 9: stuff to get the people through, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And then a lot of times at the charity events
Speaker 9: like we don't have that, we don't have that, all right,
Speaker 9: give me you know whatever.
Speaker 3: The I'll take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually you gotta do.
Speaker 3: I'll drink jack.
Speaker 2: That's that college lifestyle in college. You kind of just drink.
Speaker 3: Whatever because you ain't had no money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're.
Speaker 1: Drinking a beer at one point. Then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden there's a big bull of something, right, and you're
Speaker 1: drinking that. It's a way that's a blue color.
Speaker 3: Right. The next time, you got bodcast and you'd make
Speaker 3: up some.
Speaker 1: God hunch punch yes, and you wake up the next
Speaker 1: morning like we're good.
Speaker 9: So my uh my senior year, Jack Quais Green, and
Speaker 9: we was getting ready to go pro.
Speaker 3: So all of the other guys they were there. Nobody
Speaker 3: had money.
Speaker 9: But we ended up going to South Carolina get our
Speaker 9: our advance from our agent, the guy we signing went.
Speaker 9: We did like a fifty thousand advanced. Damn drove up
Speaker 9: to We flew to Carolina almost died. The plane was
Speaker 9: like that. It was like that. We got there a day.
Speaker 9: We went to a spot was byob You go in there,
Speaker 9: you see as tips, which you had to bring that, right,
Speaker 9: So we we we lined that all up. We went
Speaker 9: back to Gainesville by the cash. You know, we were
Speaker 9: we were rich at that time. Yeah, we were good.
Speaker 2: Hey, you see fifty thousand dollars now, holy ship, right.
Speaker 9: So all of our boys We ended up throwing a
Speaker 9: big like this big old pool party. Drinks, strings, strings,
Speaker 9: we had everything. But then we end up getting two
Speaker 9: bottles of ever Clear and make the little spike punch,
Speaker 9: the hunch punch with Hawaian punch, fire pineapples, you know,
Speaker 9: just putting, cutting fruit, throwing it and there just you
Speaker 9: can throw anything, throw it all in there.
Speaker 3: Right. So the drunkest best college party we ever had?
Speaker 3: What's that day?
Speaker 1: I got it in the sounds like it was a
Speaker 1: phenomenal time. The drunkest I've ever been was not a
Speaker 1: phenomenal time. No, no, it's terrible. You don't remember it. No,
Speaker 1: I remember party, I remember bits in pieces. It was
Speaker 1: a big deal. This girl tried, This girl got mad
Speaker 1: at me, and then her boyfriend wanted to fight me,
Speaker 1: but he didn't want to fight me, and he was
Speaker 1: about for me to jack and I thought he was
Speaker 1: real up close, so I swung on him and the
Speaker 1: trash hands swing up on the threw up on the porch.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, there was actually three and they like pop
Speaker 1: the trunk on this guy, and I'm like, oh fuck,
Speaker 1: but I you know, my buddy puts me in the
Speaker 1: car and the next morning I wake up, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: why are my pants all wet?
Speaker 2: Pissed the bed, and so I go back and I
Speaker 2: felt terrible. So I was like, like she woke up.
Speaker 1: The girl woke up at the morning, and I was
Speaker 1: like cleaning up where I threw up in their house.
Speaker 2: It was a house party.
Speaker 9: It wasn't like a the guy was gonna fight his girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, it.
Speaker 1: Was his girlfriend's house party. And I threw up and
Speaker 1: then they tried to kick me out. And then, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I thought throwing up at a house party
Speaker 1: was totally fine at that point and I shouldn't be
Speaker 1: picked out. So I'm on the lawn and.
Speaker 3: It always goes on the lawn. That's you know what's bad.
Speaker 1: I'm on the lawn and I was fucking dude. It's
Speaker 1: like him and his three buddies turns out the dudes
Speaker 1: like a semi professional boxer. I'm about to get I
Speaker 1: didn't even know about it, and I see this cat.
Speaker 2: I'm fucking. I put a haymaker on this dude on the.
Speaker 1: Issue is just six feet away, So I fucking and
Speaker 1: then spin in a circle and knock out all their
Speaker 1: trash cans. It was a fucking deal man. Wow, I
Speaker 1: felt bad the next morning, hungover.
Speaker 9: You know it happens. It is college man college. Anything
Speaker 9: is legal.
Speaker 1: Just about that sounds a great yeah, sound like something
Speaker 1: like you got good.
Speaker 2: You sounds like you got some good college stories.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: College was the ship man. College was so fucking good
Speaker 9: man I went. I remember going into college my freshman year.
Speaker 9: I was the fastest gallon and team weird Flex the
Speaker 9: fastest galloned team and uh, I know right.
Speaker 3: And we went out for Halloween.
Speaker 2: Best holiday ever, keep going.
Speaker 9: Sorry, So we went out for Halloween. So our plans
Speaker 9: was to go out and just throw eggs all the
Speaker 9: frat houses. Yeah, bomb everybody with eggs. But instead of eggs,
Speaker 9: we were at the calf that day and they have
Speaker 9: these little that little small baby pumpkins the squash, you know,
Speaker 9: like the little ship that's just sitting around fun stuff.
Speaker 9: So we just stole all of them, just loaded up
Speaker 9: the bags with that. We went and bought like ten
Speaker 9: dozens of eggs. All of us went out. Ten of
Speaker 9: us went out and we went to all the houses,
Speaker 9: just walking around campus throwing eggs just.
Speaker 3: For the fuck of it. Are you guys hammered too?
Speaker 3: Were done? Yeah? Okay, So we walked through a few alleys.
Speaker 9: Anybody that walked past us, we just got the eggs
Speaker 9: and point blank smashed on the face.
Speaker 2: You're a bully, So you're a bully.
Speaker 10: We were just having fun, yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, just yoh.
Speaker 9: So it was a freshman just stupid guys from all
Speaker 9: different places, right, our freshman class. So we went out
Speaker 9: and uh, I guess someone called the campus police. We
Speaker 9: had dispersed. We all running. I got with this one guy,
Speaker 9: he was like a sophomore. Later on I found out
Speaker 9: that he.
Speaker 3: Was a guy that you don't want to hang with
Speaker 3: because he wasn't smart.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so we both hung We hid under a utility
Speaker 9: truck in the in the utility parking lot, like this
Speaker 9: parking lot. We got on the truck opsing by tops right,
Speaker 9: but he was like, ah, here's cool, we can go away.
Speaker 9: The stadium was one hundred yards that way. We got out.
Speaker 9: We start walking. All of a sudden, you see a
Speaker 9: car company. It's the cop, this Campus Universe police. They
Speaker 9: pull out. We start running. I'm talking about him.
Speaker 3: Twenty yards away from the stadium, the fastest gowt on
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 9: I go down the hill. He went somewhere I went
Speaker 9: this way, I got freeze and I stopped.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: He put the fucking plastic cuffs on him. He was like,
Speaker 9: you're the rookie plastic yeah, the little ties yeah.
Speaker 3: On me.
Speaker 9: Man threw me in the back seat and he looked
Speaker 9: at me. He was like, you're the kid that was
Speaker 9: just one of the Gainesville son and all the magazines.
Speaker 9: You're at number one recruit Taylor right, Yeah, scupa.
Speaker 3: I already called it in. Coe Sperry was on the phone.
Speaker 9: All the guys looking down, the guys that got away,
Speaker 9: they're looking down from their dorm rooms in the stadium
Speaker 9: back in those times, and they're looking at me. I'm
Speaker 9: just sitting there like, yeah, very next morning, six am,
Speaker 9: I'm snaking the swamp from the bottom to the ninety ninth.
Speaker 3: Level.
Speaker 9: Yeah, three times. Coe Sperry did not play around with me.
Speaker 9: Long story short, I'm the fastest on the team. I'm
Speaker 9: the only guy that I got.
Speaker 2: How the fuck did that happen? That's wild. You were
Speaker 2: the not smart one. You told me I was very smart.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, you know I was following him, Yeah, because
Speaker 9: I knew he knew where to go.
Speaker 3: I hadn't even.
Speaker 9: Learned the campus quite yet, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 9: and then back in those days, we had to come
Speaker 9: in and like early fall or summer b or whatever.
Speaker 9: Now they can go in the spring and get a
Speaker 9: whole you know, four or five six month head start,
Speaker 9: but back then we can only go in in July,
Speaker 9: August or something like that.
Speaker 3: But whenever you I wasn't the campus.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I follow him and then he went left,
Speaker 9: split second decision, I went right, like fuck that, you know,
Speaker 9: I was in front of him.
Speaker 3: I didn't know which way to go bo when I
Speaker 3: got caught.
Speaker 1: I feel like whenever you get to college, whether it's
Speaker 1: the winter time or the summertime, you still got that
Speaker 1: a three month period where you really don't know where
Speaker 1: shit is.
Speaker 3: You don't know anything, know anything. But Cottage was the best, though.
Speaker 2: Dude, college is the most fun.
Speaker 1: I would argue that high school football is the most
Speaker 1: fun because it's kind of like you're all on the
Speaker 1: same level kind of doing your thing. College you can't
Speaker 1: really beat it, especially I have a good class. We
Speaker 1: came in with, Like my class was like the same way.
Speaker 1: We all hung out together. We had a blast, we
Speaker 1: partied together.
Speaker 9: It was an awesome time I did something on every
Speaker 9: level though high school. I remember back in the day
Speaker 9: it was the last six sports. They used to get
Speaker 9: the top guys come down and film their games. And
Speaker 9: if you made last the sports like you were, you know,
Speaker 9: big big stuff. And they called my coach the day
Speaker 9: of the game and say they weren't going to make it.
Speaker 3: Broke my heart.
Speaker 9: So I decided to go out and drink as many
Speaker 9: forties as I can for the game we played.
Speaker 3: We were a two, A three, A class you know, class.
Speaker 2: Must have been a monster. This was my score some
Speaker 2: Teddies boys. Yeah, my serves man.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: It was old English eight that mold. And then I'm
Speaker 9: in Florida, so we didn't have forty ounce. We have
Speaker 9: just thirty two out courts, that's what they called them.
Speaker 9: So I had to drink three of them in order
Speaker 9: to be two forties, right, a little bit more than forties, right.
Speaker 9: So I remember the coach said, hey, no, they canceled,
Speaker 9: something happened with their travel arrangements. They're not going to come.
Speaker 9: I was like, all right, fuck it, you know, excuse
Speaker 9: can I I.
Speaker 2: Guess like, yeah, absolutely, incul.
Speaker 9: You know whatever, I'll see you guys when it's time
Speaker 9: to check in. I made it to the campus after
Speaker 9: three forties, got dressed, lined it up. I had three
Speaker 9: hundred and fifty yards on like fifteen carries, five touchdowns.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, Pit Central. I'll never forget the school man.
Speaker 9: They were pretty dope, you know, they were like five A.
Speaker 9: We were three A. Best game ever. I started drinking
Speaker 9: some more fucking forties the.
Speaker 2: Next no doubt. Did you just keep that going the rest.
Speaker 11: Of the year.
Speaker 9: Oh no, fuck no, that was it. That was that
Speaker 9: was the one and done. But it was It was dope.
Speaker 2: It was that kind of game on that kind of juice. Dude,
Speaker 2: you got to keep that ship rolling.
Speaker 9: You would think so, but yeah, nah, man, I was like,
Speaker 9: you know, screw scholastic sports. You know, this was the
Speaker 9: one and done. Then the playoffs was the next couple
Speaker 9: of weeks. I got a little bit more, you know,
Speaker 9: tucked in and serious.
Speaker 2: But you had a lot offers coming out of college,
Speaker 2: come out of high school.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 9: My first one was Tuskigee. As a sophomore, I played linebacker.
Speaker 9: I played linebacker my sophomore year and I actually got
Speaker 9: recruited by as a linebacker by the university of Miami.
Speaker 9: They were today forty five to fifty minutes away from home,
Speaker 9: too close tri decline to go to UM Plus. They
Speaker 9: wanted me to be a linebacker, but running back was
Speaker 9: my thing. I didn't know it at the time. It
Speaker 9: was just naturally a running back. And everybody offered me
Speaker 9: except USC and school by the way, one other school,
Speaker 9: But USC was the one that stood out the most
Speaker 9: because I wanted a letter from them because they had
Speaker 9: the same colors as my high school. You yeah, you
Speaker 9: know that's a big thing for high school guys, at
Speaker 9: least back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably still is.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I decided, Uh, what was the coach John
Speaker 9: John Wooden ship?
Speaker 3: I'm not that funny.
Speaker 9: Basketball? Yeah, basketball, I forget his name. But either case,
Speaker 9: what's it Robinson or something?
Speaker 3: I don't know. But they didn't recruit I felt bad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna go to Calie. You just wanted them all.
Speaker 3: I just wanted them.
Speaker 9: I just wanted all of the schools, to at least
Speaker 9: the school from every state to recruit me. Yeah, but
Speaker 9: I committed to Georgia. They paid me a ship ton
Speaker 9: of money. They ended up going on probation.
Speaker 2: Hey, so I heard you correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 11: But I heard that Georgia left the Duffel bag of
Speaker 11: thirty thousand dollars. I heard it was fifty fifty thousand.
Speaker 11: I heard it was either way. You can correct us.
Speaker 11: But they left your Duffel bag to sign with them
Speaker 11: over Florida. You ended up choosing Florida and kept the
Speaker 11: double bag.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a Duffel bag, but it was. It was
Speaker 3: a it was a gang of cash man and uh, hey,
Speaker 3: thirty or fifty, it was up there. It was, it was.
Speaker 9: It was another zero, closer to fifty. It was closer
Speaker 9: to fifty. Uh And those are the days, man, It
Speaker 9: was the days. I would just go over to this
Speaker 9: guy's place and say, hey, I'm in West Palm, I'm
Speaker 9: visiting my mom.
Speaker 3: I'll come by my place.
Speaker 9: Two thousand and fifteen, three grand every time I went over,
Speaker 9: and I went over three four.
Speaker 2: Savage.
Speaker 3: But I didn't know any better.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 9: I took all of my guys with me. My best
Speaker 9: friends in college was four of us, and if you
Speaker 9: saw me, you saw them, You saw all of us
Speaker 9: dressed to like we had the same cakes. I was
Speaker 9: just blowing through that money like it was nothing.
Speaker 3: Man, I took care.
Speaker 1: Of everybody more together than Yeah, we were together, but
Speaker 1: he would together.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no.
Speaker 9: Like like busting on the bus or yeah bus. Yeah
Speaker 9: the boys now, but my guys were my guys.
Speaker 3: Man. I took care of him, you know. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: were all solid.
Speaker 9: And when I would go, he make sure I have
Speaker 9: something to take here, you say, take care of your buddies.
Speaker 2: You know, who is this man with some extra cash
Speaker 2: for on like that?
Speaker 9: You know, he's an amazing dude. You know, I don't
Speaker 9: even know if it's safe to even say his name now.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't all these years.
Speaker 9: Later, but he does so much great stuff in the
Speaker 9: community outside of that. But the college just knew that
Speaker 9: he was a guy that can take care Yeah, the players,
Speaker 9: you're good in the community.
Speaker 3: Up and coming, the up and coming athletes like he was.
Speaker 3: So I wasn't Drew.
Speaker 2: Did you sign with Drew coming out of college?
Speaker 3: No? I did not. Yeah, I'll get into that.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing. We'll go, we'll pivot right back. But
Speaker 1: even signed with him, he saw that with the pivot,
Speaker 1: I saw that.
Speaker 9: I like that, that's dope. But I keep going. But
Speaker 9: actually I can't say his name it was mister Calloway,
Speaker 9: mister call Yeah, he's amazing, but I sip my game
Speaker 9: is garbage anyway. It doesn't matter what clubs I used.
Speaker 9: But mister Calloway, he was so amazing man. But he
Speaker 9: took care of the kids in the community right, and
Speaker 9: these colleges knew that he was the bridge to the players.
Speaker 9: So uh went under n C double A investigation for
Speaker 9: all that everything. I remember, the n C double A
Speaker 9: came to University of Florida and said, hey, we heard
Speaker 9: that you guys were taking money, myself, my childhood best
Speaker 9: friend Ridel Anthony.
Speaker 3: Who played at UF, A few other guys. I denied y.
Speaker 3: Then I did I deny at least that was my mindset.
Speaker 9: They said, uh, before you continue to go on, we
Speaker 9: just want to show you this and this and this
Speaker 9: photos of.
Speaker 3: You taking money of us over visiting mister calories. Man,
Speaker 3: what ended up happening is.
Speaker 1: The same outfits all we were right. How many times
Speaker 1: am I gonna try that?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 9: So Georgia ended up going on probation for that. During
Speaker 9: those trouble, I didn't.
Speaker 3: Get any trouble. Florida didn't get any trouble. There's other
Speaker 3: schools that I visited didn't get any trouble. It was
Speaker 3: just Georgia that took the hit because they were paying
Speaker 3: the bucks. Actually Mixed State maybe yeah, some big cash
Speaker 3: can stay paid you. I was never going there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, why would At Michigan State probably about twenty grand.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's and you're really.
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety four, I mean.
Speaker 2: Now schooler, bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had seven hundred dollars my bucket at one
Speaker 1: time in high school, I thought, was a fucking man.
Speaker 2: Did you get that from college? You get that pail
Speaker 2: gram money?
Speaker 3: You think you made it? Bro? Money? Did you? Guys
Speaker 3: used to gamble with it too? No? I was smart,
Speaker 3: you know, for smart.
Speaker 11: You know all the fellers would be in there gambling
Speaker 11: their pail grand stuff away, and it's like, look at
Speaker 11: these idiots.
Speaker 1: Dude, you just got this money. Unless you win, Unless
Speaker 1: you win, you win, and it's all about that. But
Speaker 1: dudes get so mad because.
Speaker 11: You're in college, Like once you lose that money, that
Speaker 11: money is gone, Like that money's gone. He ready to fight,
Speaker 11: Like they get tight, like come on, let me win
Speaker 11: it back. Then they want to double and others tribble down.
Speaker 11: They're paying other sports.
Speaker 9: Now like now UF we had we had one guy
Speaker 9: is one guy got kicked out of school because they
Speaker 9: ended up getting them on drug charges. He was actually
Speaker 9: using his pel grant to buy weed and flip it.
Speaker 3: He ended up being a dope dealer.
Speaker 2: That really is a smart deal I mean, unless you
Speaker 2: get caught like.
Speaker 9: He lets you get caught, right, Yeah, certainly, unless you
Speaker 9: get caught. But but those days were it was something. Man,
Speaker 9: I didn't realize I was that good, even in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that I was that good.
Speaker 2: You kind of just you look back on your like, damn.
Speaker 9: Like fuck, God gave me so much talent, and I
Speaker 9: don't think I wasted it because I at some point
Speaker 9: I sort of matched the hard work with you know,
Speaker 9: everything else that you needed to take it to another level.
Speaker 9: But early on I just woke up on the fucking
Speaker 9: four two four three, like it was nothing.
Speaker 2: After some forties.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, easy, I'm beer.
Speaker 2: I'm talking beer.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: You know he was on it. He was on the
Speaker 2: whole time.
Speaker 11: If you legitimately argued like the most underrated player of
Speaker 11: all time, like would you put yourself in that category?
Speaker 9: It's unfortunately I guess I have to. But that's based
Speaker 9: on media standards, right, Yeah, if you line me up,
Speaker 9: if you go and talk to my home, link up
Speaker 9: with a little bit later. Keith Bullock, one of your
Speaker 9: guys here at Towns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bully.
Speaker 9: You know you talked to Bully, You talked to to
Speaker 9: to Ray Lewis, you talked to Ed Reid. You know
Speaker 9: you talk to Troy Popmhlu, Derek Brooks, Warren sapp name
Speaker 9: anybody that that was on defense. These coaches talk to
Speaker 9: coach Dungee, you know, the coach that was here. Talked
Speaker 9: to Jeff Fisher, you know, uh yeah, talked to Coach Coughlin,
Speaker 9: Coach Belichick. All these coaches that had the game plan
Speaker 9: for me. They knew what I presented on the field.
Speaker 9: They knew I was a problem. I'm sure they wouldn't
Speaker 9: say it was overrated. I mean underrated. But when you
Speaker 9: talk about the media accolades, Yeah, the accolades and the
Speaker 9: media and the timing of you know, from season to
Speaker 9: season and there you know those different accolades that carry
Speaker 9: each year. I missed a few of them, but my
Speaker 9: numbers were still just as good as some of the
Speaker 9: guys that received those nods in front of me. It's
Speaker 9: just I guess that's the nature of the markets in
Speaker 9: the NFL.
Speaker 1: Do you think the reason why you were you were
Speaker 1: overlooked in those ways with the same numbers because you're
Speaker 1: playing at a franchise that was so young.
Speaker 9: One, yeah, that that would that would be one for sure,
Speaker 9: you know. And another thing is you have I got.
Speaker 2: A call time out just real quick.
Speaker 11: You got this hair, and I just I've been staring
Speaker 11: it the whole time, and I just got to be
Speaker 11: a boy and oh.
Speaker 9: Wow, I've been you know, I had this fucking pivot.
Speaker 9: Thank you? What were we doing this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right? Cool? Yeah?
Speaker 9: But anyway, uh yeah, So one, being in the market,
Speaker 9: the market was wasn't great.
Speaker 3: It was a you know, not a great market, not
Speaker 3: a good market.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 9: And then when you're not winning, Yeah, when you're winning,
Speaker 9: it's easier to get those eyes on you. For my
Speaker 9: first two years we were winning, that was great. But
Speaker 9: then certain times, certain moments where I would be injured,
Speaker 9: right and uh, and then we're losing, so you sort
Speaker 9: of get swept under the under the rug and people
Speaker 9: sort of forget about you. And then and even other
Speaker 9: moments when I would go out there and bust my
Speaker 9: ass and do well. I just didn't put together back
Speaker 9: to back seasons doing that. So it's just the timing
Speaker 9: of that, the injuries along with the markets. Then you know,
Speaker 9: no one never really knew what I was capable of
Speaker 9: unless they were on the field finding up against me
Speaker 9: every sun.
Speaker 11: I think it's just crazy to look back on because
Speaker 11: you played thirteen years, you have like forty two records
Speaker 11: for the organization of Jacksonville, and you only had one
Speaker 11: Pro Bowl, one of which it was like an alternate, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 11: that was the fact. Does it like piss you? Did
Speaker 11: it piss you off at the time when you weren't
Speaker 11: getting the Pro Bowls? And when you look back, does
Speaker 11: it piss you off?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 9: Well? Yeah, I gotta keep it one hundred, which I
Speaker 9: always will. Yeah, it was some ship man. You know,
Speaker 9: I definitely.
Speaker 2: Trying to stay focused, right, No.
Speaker 9: Man, you know, you Bush, you got your work. You
Speaker 9: go out there and you know you give it. You're
Speaker 9: all man, You're laying it all out and uh, you know,
Speaker 9: these are the things you expect. At the end of
Speaker 9: the year. You look at other guys, you weigh yourself
Speaker 9: against what they're doing, and at the end of the
Speaker 9: year where you're not getting those calls or the votes,
Speaker 9: you're like, what's going on right now.
Speaker 3: I remember a few.
Speaker 9: Times where my nimbors were better than veteran guys that
Speaker 9: were getting voted in. But then someone was like, hey,
Speaker 9: these guys have been before. They're gonna get looked at first,
Speaker 9: before the younger guys or the rookies get looked Yeah,
Speaker 9: you know, so I had to you know, I took
Speaker 9: that hell that way. But then when you throwing the
Speaker 9: whole marketing, the market and the injuries, so I missed
Speaker 9: a few, but yeah, I was still pissed. I was
Speaker 9: pissed out myself, more so because of the injuries. I
Speaker 9: couldn't stay on the field.
Speaker 3: So later on I started figuring, you know, like why
Speaker 3: can't you stay healthy? I thought I was doing everything right.
Speaker 9: But you know, obviously hanging out three nights a week,
Speaker 9: going out, waking up to be a the stadium at
Speaker 9: seven eight o'clock. My output was still hot, you know,
Speaker 9: I was still performing on the high level. It's just that,
Speaker 9: you know, over the stretch of a few weeks, my
Speaker 9: body started breaking down, so I couldn't sustain no any
Speaker 9: consistency in the NFL. If you don't have consistency, you
Speaker 9: don't really have much. So with that, it's just the time.
Speaker 9: Like I said, I always go back to the timing
Speaker 9: of things, and at the point where when they do
Speaker 9: decide to vote on the Pro Bowls early December, my
Speaker 9: game always elevated from mid November to late December January,
Speaker 9: my numbers were a lot better than they were early
Speaker 9: in the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, asks me, why how? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really confusing stat because usually someone who takes
Speaker 1: care of their body usually has the best in the
Speaker 1: second half the season while everybody else is doing this right,
Speaker 1: You're kind of doing this right, right.
Speaker 9: But I started ascending more so towards the end of
Speaker 9: the season throughout my entire career, and it's one of
Speaker 9: the strangest things so which also put me, you know,
Speaker 9: I always wanted to, you know, talk to the voters
Speaker 9: and the most of the media guys, and hey, look,
Speaker 9: why do you vote for the Pro Bowl at the
Speaker 9: beginning of December?
Speaker 3: The season is not even over.
Speaker 9: Why can't it be as simple as taking the top
Speaker 9: three guys at their positions, whether it's you know, the
Speaker 9: running backs receivers statistically and just let those guys be
Speaker 9: the guys. Wouldn't that be easier? Then you take the
Speaker 9: whole voting and the market, you take all of that
Speaker 9: out of the equation.
Speaker 2: So what do you do with olfics a woman? Then
Speaker 2: that's tough. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I mean, but for still guys, it's easy to just
Speaker 9: lead it out or you know, you look at what
Speaker 9: the NFL's main agenda. They got to make money. They
Speaker 9: got to market the game, They got to market the players. Right,
Speaker 9: so when the game was in Hawaii, the best way
Speaker 9: to do it is you got to market the players.
Speaker 9: You want to take the players that you know, the
Speaker 9: fans are are very familiar with, and you want to
Speaker 9: send those guys over because all the Hawaiian people that
Speaker 9: were on the island, they weren't filling up the stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 9: you know, that was a game for you know, the
Speaker 9: people that live inland to visit the island so they
Speaker 9: can enjoy the game or enjoy the week long festivities.
Speaker 3: You know, before the Pro Bowl came along.
Speaker 2: Another tough thing about stats.
Speaker 1: The issue what that is is like if you have
Speaker 1: like a receiver, let's say he goes off to fifty.
Speaker 1: The next week he has forty six, right, goes off
Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty the next week after that,
Speaker 1: and the next week, and then the next two weeks
Speaker 1: he has under one hundred. Like that's if you have
Speaker 1: high numbers, you could have six unbelievable games, right, And
Speaker 1: so the stats things kind of tough when you're saying
Speaker 1: it's like consistency is aba the most important thing to
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 9: I think over the stretch of a back then sixteen
Speaker 9: game season, you know, the numbers say that they don't lie, right, Right,
Speaker 9: even if what you said, if you have a you know,
Speaker 9: a two forty and a fifty, that's still three hundred.
Speaker 9: Split that in half. That's one fifty average. That's a
Speaker 9: dope ass average. I'm taking that every week as it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but I think that's Henry's average.
Speaker 3: He's a monster, I mean, control, he's ridiculous.
Speaker 9: Hoping he definitely gets back healthy and do his thing
Speaker 9: on tract time, right.
Speaker 2: He's got two more years left, two more years.
Speaker 3: Hopefully he can hit it big.
Speaker 9: But you know, that's that's a whole nother conversation too, man,
Speaker 9: because it's about leverage. They look at the age, they
Speaker 9: look at wear and tear. He's a big guy. They
Speaker 9: probably gonna bet that he's not gonna be able to last,
Speaker 9: you know, so long. So I don't know if he
Speaker 9: can get the big, big check, but I'm hoping he does.
Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna run him. They're gonna get run him, and.
Speaker 9: They're gonna look at that, and they're gonna use that
Speaker 9: as an argument. Unfortunately, they're gonna use Look, you're taking
Speaker 9: three hundred plus carries a game. Even in this NFL,
Speaker 9: where's the past happy league. They're gonna say, Nah, were
Speaker 9: talking about crazy man, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I think the NFL is more diving back. It was
Speaker 1: so pass happy about I don't know, five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight years ago.
Speaker 2: And it's really the run game.
Speaker 1: The balance of offenses have really come into a thing
Speaker 1: where you know, the forty nine Ers, the Falcons us
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Baltimore runs a fifty two percent of the time.
Speaker 1: A lot of these team, these teams that are having
Speaker 1: success are really finding more of a balance right now.
Speaker 1: You have outlars like like the Chiefs and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Chargers are going to be all
Speaker 1: are that way but the run game is really becoming
Speaker 1: a thing. And what I would argue that if I
Speaker 1: was Derek sitting here arguing, well, you run it so much.
Speaker 1: Takeaway last year, which, by the way, I think he's
Speaker 1: still finished top ten and rushing only playing eight games, unbelievable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: top six. Yeah, Like he was number one for three
Speaker 1: weeks after two. Every single year he got stronger. He
Speaker 1: was like you were talking about you were he would
Speaker 1: get stronger. October would hit and he be like all right,
Speaker 1: and then November you be oh shit, and then December
Speaker 1: it's like you've been to watch the fuck out right,
Speaker 1: because he just he just takes care of his body
Speaker 1: and he just keeps fucking going. And if he is
Speaker 1: a year like he did two years ago when he
Speaker 1: hit two thousand and with seventeen games, got crazy to say, like,
Speaker 1: let's say, let's just say he beats the he beats
Speaker 1: the record as a franchise. You guys sit there and
Speaker 1: you got a you know that old Peter Griffin thing, Sir,
Speaker 1: here's the empty check, do whatever you want with it.
Speaker 3: Isn't isn't it crazy? Though?
Speaker 9: I mean, hopefully he can get back and show him
Speaker 9: that he's healthy and yeah to go and they can
Speaker 9: do right by him because I don't see any huge signings.
Speaker 9: You know that you guys have done even in free agency.
Speaker 9: You know you haven't done what these other teams are doing.
Speaker 3: They're cut check, they're stroking these one hundred million dollar
Speaker 3: deals on five years to have any eighty million guaranteed.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that with you guys.
Speaker 1: Harrold got signed for eighty six million dollars deal, which
Speaker 1: is which is great.
Speaker 2: I think he was very deserving by the way, these fucks.
Speaker 11: Okay, that's vely we were able to talk about in.
Speaker 2: House Cat John.
Speaker 1: I think someone showed us has a history of showing
Speaker 1: homegrown guys and when they deliver, he pays them.
Speaker 2: Got it, Robert Woods.
Speaker 1: Now, a lot of people are a lot of people
Speaker 1: are upset because he hurd towards a cl November. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what he's going to do or not
Speaker 1: like that, because my my beginning of the year was tough,
Speaker 1: and they were saying, they were saying, but Dupree wasn't
Speaker 1: healthy until the end of the year. Receivers are a
Speaker 1: lot different, right right, Like OBJ looked phenomenal while he
Speaker 1: was coming off his a cl So I think he
Speaker 1: watching Robert wood was on film. The dude not only
Speaker 1: runs crispy routes and can get open and get some yak,
Speaker 1: but the dude blocks his ass off too, And so
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a bigger deal than
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Speaker 2: Hooper.
Speaker 1: We signed who's a two time Pro Bowlers with the
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Speaker 2: I think he's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Our defense, they just played the way they did last year,
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this football season. A healthy Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry and we're starting to put pieces. But I agree
Speaker 1: with you, we're not there's no like splash. We're not
Speaker 1: making splash things. But in a lot of times, John's
Speaker 1: never really done that. Like the biggest splash we've done
Speaker 1: was Julio last year, and before that, Kennyo was more.
Speaker 3: Of a name than what from the pocket.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think you opened the checkbook, you know,
Speaker 9: for Julio, But he's more of a big name, and
Speaker 9: I really thought he was going to come in here
Speaker 9: and do some damage in my fantasy. You know, on
Speaker 9: the other side, you got hearing in the backfield like, fuck,
Speaker 9: they're gonna get one on one on ones across the board.
Speaker 9: You gotta kill something. But you know that that's just
Speaker 9: the nature of the business. But I'm rooting for Derek,
Speaker 9: you know, I like him to stay healthy, show that
Speaker 9: is healthy because he deserves a big day, big payday.
Speaker 9: But myself, you know, it's just timing.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 9: Timing was one of those things man, and uh, it's unfortunate,
Speaker 9: but I was. I was bissed that I didn't make
Speaker 9: you know, uh a lot of Pro Bowls, but I
Speaker 9: still kept my faith, you know, my head down and
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Speaker 11: Why do you think why do you think the running
Speaker 11: back market is? I feel like it's not seen as
Speaker 11: what it used to be like.
Speaker 9: And right, the NFL is trendy. I mean they always
Speaker 9: say it's the topiccat league. If one team say all right,
Speaker 9: look we can go with the two headed months to
Speaker 9: get two guys for the price of one because of
Speaker 9: the injuries, you know, YadA, YadA, every team is gonna
Speaker 9: look at that concept and they they'll copy it. But
Speaker 9: every now and then you have guys that come along
Speaker 9: the Adrian Peterson's of the world, you know, the right,
Speaker 9: the Derrick Henry's right. These guys are going to force
Speaker 9: the issue. Hell, even Chris Johnson like, these guys are
Speaker 9: gonna beat every down backs, right, and what can you
Speaker 9: do about that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 9: But if you have a guy that's you know, borderline,
Speaker 9: you know, I don't want to say mediocre, but just borderline, right,
Speaker 9: then if we can get these guys to make the interchangeable.
Speaker 9: Have this guy's a third down guy, Have this guy
Speaker 9: third down past specialist, this guy's first down sacking down,
Speaker 9: short yardish guy. Then you're putting two guys in there
Speaker 9: so when you come back to the table, you have
Speaker 9: some levels that's instant leverage because they're not out there
Speaker 9: playing sixty plus snaps. So that's an argument for the
Speaker 9: guys in the front office, but they do that a
Speaker 9: us to leave. But every so often you have that
Speaker 9: one special back back, say one Barkley prior to the injuries,
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. So these guys come McCaffrey,
Speaker 9: Christian amazing pack.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean struggle with injury, but he got
Speaker 3: I mean he got paid.
Speaker 9: Yeah you had, but he got paid, you know. But
Speaker 9: the injuries are still there. They're gonna always question that.
Speaker 9: But going forward, come out with him. I wonder what,
Speaker 9: like the last couple of years he's been injured.
Speaker 3: He's a small guy. It's a lot of wearing tear.
Speaker 3: They do a lot with him.
Speaker 12: He does.
Speaker 2: Circle now, yeah, many times you have legit.
Speaker 3: You have those touches and not just handoffs.
Speaker 9: But I mean that he's probably scripted at least ten
Speaker 9: plus past plays in the passing games going into the game.
Speaker 9: That's not including the checkdowns off of play action, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 9: So see, but those are special talents that forced the issue.
Speaker 9: So how can you argue, you know, what they're deserving of.
Speaker 9: But then you have those teams that they just believe
Speaker 9: in what they believe in. The Patriots running back by committee. Yeah,
Speaker 9: you know when I spent my time in there. You know,
Speaker 9: if you're if you got the hot hand, you stay
Speaker 9: in the game, regardless if you're the destinator started for
Speaker 9: that week, if you're the hot hand against whatever ball club,
Speaker 9: you stay in the game. That's just the way they
Speaker 9: run their outfit. Yeah, but the NFL has just noted
Speaker 9: that running backs, you know, running backs are expendable. Uh,
Speaker 9: the value isn't there like back in the day when
Speaker 9: we were when the scores were you know, end of
Speaker 9: a ball game, prior to a lot of rule changes.
Speaker 9: The scores were twenty to fourteen was probably considered a
Speaker 9: freaking blowout, or twenty to ten was considered a blowout.
Speaker 9: Nowadays every team is putting up thirty forty points because
Speaker 9: the rules changes, right.
Speaker 2: Personal bad ones.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 9: So back then, man, we said we're going to run
Speaker 9: the ball. We need to run the ball forty times.
Speaker 9: One back can get thirty carries twenty five plus and
Speaker 9: that was this game. That's when they were paying guys.
Speaker 9: But now it's just you know, the rule changes everything else.
Speaker 3: This is what we are.
Speaker 1: I think the money I mean in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: The money is going up. I mean, is money is
Speaker 1: going through the real but for running backs, like there's
Speaker 1: a few years where it's better for sure, but that's inflation.
Speaker 1: That's the captaining higher that's right, right, it rolls downhill.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks are signing, right.
Speaker 3: And so by the way, that was that was a
Speaker 3: monster deal.
Speaker 11: And you you said that before that, you're like it
Speaker 11: used to be a top quarterback like Deshaun Watson signed
Speaker 11: that fully guaranteed to thirty.
Speaker 3: It's like a good domino to fall for, like, you know,
Speaker 3: player to start.
Speaker 9: Doing that for everybody. Man, that that deal was five
Speaker 9: years to thirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. The Browns are dangerous, insane. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: whole AFC.
Speaker 10: Really is like nasty bro crazy, right, I mean, but
Speaker 10: it's all cyclical and it's just revolving, big word.
Speaker 3: Mean, it's just revolving. You put on.
Speaker 9: Its round and round and round and round and round
Speaker 9: and round. But yeah, I I know the NFC has
Speaker 9: they don't have their moments the f C. I know,
Speaker 9: when I played, the f C was hot ship. Before
Speaker 9: I got in the league, it was the NFC.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: Now it's it's other than the Chiefs, you know, the NFC.
Speaker 9: They have some great teams. But I think there's a
Speaker 9: lot of balance in the NFL right now. But that
Speaker 9: money is ridiculous, man. But it's the TV deals, the outlets,
Speaker 9: all the different avenues that they can show the games,
Speaker 9: get you know, ad and sponsors, sponsorship revenues in and
Speaker 9: these these players, man.
Speaker 3: They deserve it though.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I think it should be bigger guarantees for
Speaker 9: everybody across the board.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this has got to be the craziest free agency.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen, but by far
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. And left right I'm
Speaker 1: over there right, like that little gift for the black
Speaker 1: kid doing this thing? What kind of just like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen to your boarder right now?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: But yeah, look like in all these I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean Drew Lock no offense at the Seattle Falcons mark
Speaker 1: most of these big deals.
Speaker 3: Are a FC.
Speaker 2: What's crazy?
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa on rushing both sides.
Speaker 3: Max Crosby, Chandler Jones.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Tyreek Hills of the.
Speaker 9: Dolphins at Waddells got mister I N. T. Jackson cornerback
Speaker 9: over in j C. Jackson over the Chargers. So the
Speaker 9: Chargers are I think everybody's looking at what the Rams
Speaker 9: did you know in their model.
Speaker 2: Copycat league league again right?
Speaker 1: And the Dolphins have turned that Larry Tunzel deal into
Speaker 1: I mean what five years later, still just scooping up
Speaker 1: picks and now was sending them.
Speaker 9: Off up guys man, And and you know there you
Speaker 9: have to take those picks. You know, you don't trade
Speaker 9: a guy to sit on those picks and not do
Speaker 9: anything with them, right, you have to make a move.
Speaker 3: Uh, And now is.
Speaker 9: The time for a lot of those teams you have
Speaker 9: you know, Jacksonville for example, I'm looking at what they
Speaker 9: traded Jayalen Ramsey for two first rounders. I think it
Speaker 9: was like a third rounder in there and some other stuff.
Speaker 3: And uh, the.
Speaker 9: Rams have gotten the best of that deal because they
Speaker 9: went on and they want to ring.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Notice past year Jacksonville has gone backwards garbage and
Speaker 3: they have no disrespect kind of back to back years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, and I can't argue that. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think the fans would. I think they'll give me a
Speaker 3: pass if I agree with you and say the team's because.
Speaker 2: You're the greatest Jacksonville Jaguar ball you know.
Speaker 3: So, but you have to be realistic.
Speaker 9: So having back to back first picks back to back years.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I think that equations being garbage.
Speaker 1: You know, to argue, to argue both here is your
Speaker 1: points are there? Teston Titans twenty fourteen at the first
Speaker 1: overall pick fifteen had the second overall pick, and so.
Speaker 9: But we have much Titans have done. Yeah, I'm saying
Speaker 9: in the last three years.
Speaker 2: Build off of it.
Speaker 1: Able to build and build and build and building. So
Speaker 1: you know that's the thing. Everybody like Jacksonville probably won't
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl this year. I don't know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But they're not crazy. Say they're
Speaker 1: not two years away. They could do something. They have
Speaker 1: a great quarterback there. Say it's not a running back
Speaker 1: who's durable. It's not you can rush the passer.
Speaker 9: And I think they need to add to that obviously,
Speaker 9: but it is crazy at all. You look at where
Speaker 9: the Bills were three years ago.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you look at where the Bengals, by
Speaker 1: the way, the Bengals because if Trevor, if Trevor like
Speaker 1: starts exactly.
Speaker 11: You got those guys, You got those elite quarterbacks on
Speaker 11: their rookie deal, and you can start saying, fuck those picks,
Speaker 11: trade them away, get vets, spend money going all this,
Speaker 11: put it all around them.
Speaker 3: Because the Bengals are a perfect example of that.
Speaker 9: If I understand this risk reward right, but if I'm
Speaker 9: if I'm investing my heart and money, I want to
Speaker 9: make sure my money is in companies like you know, Apple, Amazon,
Speaker 9: I don't know, World dominating all those companies that you
Speaker 9: understand what they're gonna give you, right, You'll have, you know,
Speaker 9: a few fluctuations, but you know what they're gonna give you.
Speaker 9: In the long run opposed to potential startups. Right, these
Speaker 9: these unicorn companies that don't always hit the mark.
Speaker 3: Same thing with NFL.
Speaker 9: When they go out and they sign these players, they're saying,
Speaker 9: all right, I can get this rookie. I want this
Speaker 9: first round pick that's potential. Yeah, I look, I equate
Speaker 9: that to a startup. You know that the potential is there,
Speaker 9: Will it be successful? Who knows?
Speaker 3: If me a guy who's.
Speaker 9: Proven, I want you, I want to get you in
Speaker 9: free agency because I know what the fuck you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want Billy Smoe from Oh Miss
Speaker 3: Yeah that fuck it. I don't want him to say, well,
Speaker 3: I gotta wait, you know, three years before I can
Speaker 3: really see his true potential. Otherwise I'm gonna cut him
Speaker 3: because all those contracts are based on the first three years.
Speaker 9: The other shit doesn't matter, you know. So and guys
Speaker 9: tend to grow later or they developed later. But if
Speaker 9: you want to win now, you look at what's on
Speaker 9: the free agent market.
Speaker 3: You take those shots.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can build through the draft in the second, third,
Speaker 9: or third, fourth, fifth round, sixth rounds. Those guys are
Speaker 9: telling it, they're the best players on the fucking planet.
Speaker 9: First rounders don't always mean you're going to be great. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's just mean a lot of these guys are just hype.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: You get a few analysts to say this, Billy Schmoe
Speaker 9: what was his name, right, Billy.
Speaker 3: Schmoe is great. Billy Smoe might be garbage as hell? Right?
Speaker 2: How many guys are you like that in college?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 9: It happens, man, it happens, no question, these guys that
Speaker 9: it happens a lot. The Chargers back in ninety eight
Speaker 9: my draft, they took Ryan Leaf after paying many Wow,
Speaker 9: yeah goes back.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many years, but it was awful. Right.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I think that these teams you want to
Speaker 9: win always been a moment. If I were a GM,
Speaker 9: I say, let's win now.
Speaker 11: And it's not even free agency, but yeah, fuck those picks,
Speaker 11: get them out there.
Speaker 9: Look, I'll look at a salary cap. We'll figure it
Speaker 9: out later. Let's go now. Well, we all were in
Speaker 9: a business.
Speaker 1: I think we all know at this point that the
Speaker 1: star cap doesn't really mean anything. If someone says cap
Speaker 1: casualty or the cap, oh they only have this much
Speaker 1: spending room.
Speaker 2: Well if you take five guys, so let's say three guys.
Speaker 1: That are making You know, Tannahill makes twenty two million dollars,
Speaker 1: Say hey, here's twenty one million dollars right now in
Speaker 1: a signing bonus, and.
Speaker 2: You're gonna make minimum this year. Right, You just freed up.
Speaker 1: However much money in cap You can do that over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. Going back to the potential thing.
Speaker 1: I had a coach in high school tell me that
Speaker 1: potential just means you haven't done shit yet, right, That's
Speaker 1: all potential is. Right, So I don't disagree. I'm not
Speaker 1: a GM, you know what I'm saying here, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm still in the NFL. So I'm playing like the
Speaker 1: on the Wall game right now. But I don't see
Speaker 1: why that wouldn't be the move now like the Rams did.
Speaker 1: They's saying, fuck the picks, let's go get whoever you want.
Speaker 1: And with free agency it's like buddy like, not just
Speaker 1: free agency, it's everybody, everybody's roster, everybody's for sale.
Speaker 9: You've got to be willing to jump out in front
Speaker 9: of the line early, right. You can't wait to see
Speaker 9: what the market is going to dictate. Just go get
Speaker 9: your guy, right, and that'll be the end. Of it
Speaker 9: right Buffalo, they want and got von Miller. Von Miller
Speaker 9: didn't have a great season, but they know what he's
Speaker 9: capable of to say, all right, we're gonna give this
Speaker 9: guy where we believe he deserves. We're gonna put the year,
Speaker 9: We're gonna add the years on there, We're gonna give
Speaker 9: him his bonuses up front and everything else in terms
Speaker 9: of averages. It helps his cap friendly Or they can
Speaker 9: go and pick a few other guys. But they took
Speaker 9: the piece of the puzzle that they felt they needed
Speaker 9: to take them a step further. And if they go
Speaker 9: a step further, they're in the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: And even if even.
Speaker 1: If von Miller isn't statistically as good he's been the past,
Speaker 1: which I have no doubt he is capable of.
Speaker 2: His presence is something you have to be aware of.
Speaker 1: If I'm playing von Miller, I'm very aware of what
Speaker 1: von Miller is at all times. Right I'm sleeping, But
Speaker 1: you have to be aware of our is alt that
Speaker 1: you have to watch the film. How much time is
Speaker 1: he on the left hendle, how much time he's in
Speaker 1: the right tackle winndsy up in the middle, Like you
Speaker 1: have to be aware of where a guy like that
Speaker 1: is that kind of talent. He's crazy talented, right, and
Speaker 1: he just fucking goes. He lulls you to sleep do
Speaker 1: like an asshole. Like he'll take three players and kind
Speaker 1: of jog off the ball and you're like, I'm then
Speaker 1: this dude up. And then all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: jumps the snap because he starts to learn your snap
Speaker 1: kin a little bit, and fucking he's around the corner
Speaker 1: so he can bro like he can ben like crazy.
Speaker 1: Once you overset, his spin move is deadly and because
Speaker 1: you have to get back so fast his long arm,
Speaker 1: he will put you in the back of the quarterback.
Speaker 2: No prole pro. He's savvy, savy pro.
Speaker 9: Even going back to my early early in my career. Man,
Speaker 9: you know vun You look at Van, he's a he's
Speaker 9: a linebacker. You know, now, you we got to get
Speaker 9: out the quarterback because we know they're gonna be more dropbacks.
Speaker 9: Then you know you mentioned a few teams that are
Speaker 9: gonna go run heavy.
Speaker 3: It's just their philosophy, right. Obviously you're a coach, Mike.
Speaker 9: He believes in running the ball, established snap, playing great defense.
Speaker 9: He's the old school guy. Yeah, but some of these
Speaker 9: guys they just want to let it rip. And majority
Speaker 9: of the NFL teams are that way. So you're gonna
Speaker 9: get these cleaners is what they called him back in
Speaker 9: the day. I don't think they called him that so
Speaker 9: much more down the guys that were big linebackers that
Speaker 9: can actually rush the passer. But back in the day,
Speaker 9: they wouldn't put him there because they would fear the
Speaker 9: run game and and and being able to obtain the edge.
Speaker 3: I would get outside on that ship the heartbeat.
Speaker 9: But when you have those guys like a von Miller,
Speaker 9: you pose a huge threat the offenses. But teams just
Speaker 9: I think teams really just gotta just dig in and
Speaker 9: make their moves and and deal with it. I think
Speaker 9: Jacksonville will have a better season this year year ago
Speaker 9: Peterson he's back. I think Trevor would be better. You know,
Speaker 9: with all all that drama that he had there.
Speaker 2: To talk about that was crazy.
Speaker 9: There was a lot of drummer there, man, So you know,
Speaker 9: I think he'll be better this year.
Speaker 11: Do you think they'll win the division this year? Here
Speaker 11: trying to set some ship up.
Speaker 3: But it's all good.
Speaker 9: Look what I I got to say this though, I
Speaker 9: will say this, I don't think lightly. Yeah, hear you.
Speaker 9: Houston was the top dog four years ago. Tennessee took
Speaker 9: that spot of Tennessee's been the top dog.
Speaker 3: When the coast was always are nice, the coach always nice.
Speaker 9: What's their identity if I if I'm in your division? Yeah,
Speaker 9: playing the Coats, Yeah, I see Maddy Ice just went
Speaker 9: over there and they got rid of Carson Wentz after
Speaker 9: you know, making the they missed the playoffs because we won.
Speaker 9: Jacksonville won, but they missed the playoffs. But I don't
Speaker 9: know if Matt Ryan is better than Carson went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got Jonathan Taylor and you do have
Speaker 1: there in their well coached football team. Like I know
Speaker 1: that they're very unbelievable football coach. I tell you what
Speaker 1: their identity is the same as Tennessee Titans. I really
Speaker 1: and I really believe that coach physical. They know the rules,
Speaker 1: you know how to use the rules to their advantage,
Speaker 1: and they play good and they're always they're always gap responsible.
Speaker 2: Their defense is gap responsible.
Speaker 1: When the DN goes inside, it's not because he just
Speaker 1: has a whim because he's you know, he's told to,
Speaker 1: so his backers got his back. They play great sound
Speaker 1: football I agree with.
Speaker 9: That, and they're very much identical to what you guys have, right,
Speaker 9: I think you guys have Tannehill in your system. He's
Speaker 9: been a better player since he landed in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I agree with that.
Speaker 9: I just don't know what the identity of the quarterback
Speaker 9: is in Indie. We know what they bring in a
Speaker 9: run game, we know what they do on defense. They
Speaker 9: can't let teams like Jacksonville beat them split those games
Speaker 9: in the division. You guys don't do that, you know
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, Like, you don't do that. So if
Speaker 9: you want to be the top dog in the division,
Speaker 9: you got to crush the bottom, you know, up pest
Speaker 9: or whatever you want to call them. And you guys
Speaker 9: have been good at doing that with Jacksonville. Yeah, the
Speaker 9: Coats haven't yet. The Colts, well, they.
Speaker 3: The Coast haven't done that.
Speaker 2: They split with Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: They lost both times to us, and they beat Houston
Speaker 1: both times. Right, right, We beat Jacksonville twice, beat the
Speaker 1: Colts twice, but we split with Houston and Houston with
Speaker 1: DeShawn not playing and there and they're coaching things that.
Speaker 2: That was a weird, wild game.
Speaker 1: It becomes that reason any given Sunday, like the worst
Speaker 1: team can be the best team, and it is pretty much.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals got their ass kick to the Detroit Lions, right,
Speaker 1: that's true, you know what I'm saying, Like it can
Speaker 1: happen at any Cardinals.
Speaker 11: Like it's the same thing though, like you're saying, if
Speaker 11: you're going to beat the top dog, you gotta you
Speaker 11: gotta step on the team that you're gonna step on.
Speaker 9: But we'll just go ahead and cap this segment off
Speaker 9: answer a question. Jaguars are going to win the division
Speaker 9: to shore, they're good here.
Speaker 1: I think a team you sleep on, though, like I want,
Speaker 1: when you played in Jacksonville, god forbid it's in December
Speaker 1: because you're so used to Jacksonville made it to the
Speaker 1: f C champion.
Speaker 2: They beat him like what nine to six.
Speaker 9: Nine, and it was it was. It was a great
Speaker 9: game for them at home NFL bro NFL. But then
Speaker 9: they came back and you didn't see that same team again.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that had to do with
Speaker 2: with Meyer, though.
Speaker 1: I just think you see all the stuff coming out
Speaker 1: and all the shit you read is probably there's half
Speaker 1: of its true, half of it's not. But this whole
Speaker 1: thing with Tim Tebow where you'd make the players wear
Speaker 1: the jerseys and like Tim Tebow Tuesdays.
Speaker 9: I didn't hear about. I missed that one. I know
Speaker 9: he and Timmy are, they're super tight. Yeah, and I know.
Speaker 2: Those Tuesdays cut him halfway through camp. They can't be
Speaker 2: that tight.
Speaker 9: Timmy's my guy, you know. Obviously he had a lot
Speaker 9: of pressure on him for even bringing tim to the team.
Speaker 9: You know, a lot of people felt like there's so
Speaker 9: many other talented guys at that position that was worthy
Speaker 9: of a tryout, which is what Timmy basically earned. But
Speaker 9: you know, or Timmy had I won't say earned, but
Speaker 9: he had tryout, and you know, you just go back.
Speaker 9: Relationships are everything, you know. I always tell people it's
Speaker 9: not about because they like to say it's about who
Speaker 9: you know. I always like to say, it's about who
Speaker 9: knows you right. That's because like that you can vouch
Speaker 9: for me if you know me right, it's more so
Speaker 9: than me knowing you. I gotta wait on the phone
Speaker 9: call and you might not call me back. What you
Speaker 9: can vouch for me? And h urban he knows Timmy well,
Speaker 9: you know, and he's like, hey, I'm bringing in and
Speaker 9: give you a shot, But a lot of people felt
Speaker 9: like there are so many other guys worthy of that tryout,
Speaker 9: but you totally just dismissed it and brought your homeboy in,
Speaker 9: you know, for the moment the beginning.
Speaker 11: Like obviously everything panned out the way it has and
Speaker 11: you know they've all split up and all that stuff,
Speaker 11: but from the very beginning, like you're trying to build
Speaker 11: a culture, Tuesday coach, and it's like Tim Tebow, he's
Speaker 11: kind of got right.
Speaker 9: So you know how the locker room. It's you can
Speaker 9: lose the locker room so easy. You know, even when
Speaker 9: that happened, the guy's in the locker room, like Tebow's
Speaker 9: a joke.
Speaker 3: I mean, I loved him. He's my guy.
Speaker 9: It's found that what he does in life, who he
Speaker 9: is as a person, you know who he is that
Speaker 9: as an analyst, I always felt like right baseball player,
Speaker 9: I always felt like he didn't get a fair shot
Speaker 9: after doing what he did with the Broncos, you know,
Speaker 9: in the playoff run, all that different stuff. You know,
Speaker 9: he's not the conventional quarterback. You know you're going you
Speaker 9: script h stuff around him. He's a he was a winner.
Speaker 3: He was a guy that put his heart online.
Speaker 1: Right, So legit, I think he could have been in
Speaker 1: the league like a Taysom Hill, the Mormon missile.
Speaker 3: He could have definitely done He could have definitely done that.
Speaker 9: Uh So for Tims, you know, I loved him across
Speaker 9: the board. Uh I just think that the timing of
Speaker 9: what happened in Jacksonville. You know, Irvin coming back in
Speaker 9: with the Bagga team was already bringing back in a
Speaker 9: strength coach. That was a red flag. Tim was a
Speaker 9: red flag. He go out there, you lose the game
Speaker 9: in Cincinnati, a tough game against eventually the Super Bowl,
Speaker 9: the guys that lost in the steat. Right, you go
Speaker 9: up there, and then now you're in your home state
Speaker 9: of Ohio. You're out there getting what they consider lap
Speaker 9: dance and all this other stuff. You didn't fly home
Speaker 9: with the team with all that other stuff. Right, You
Speaker 9: have a rookie quarterback who was dependent on its head
Speaker 9: coach being a leader, you know, So now the media
Speaker 9: is tearing him up. The quarterback isn't playing well, Jacksonville
Speaker 9: isn't playing well. Jacksonville's always always considered one of the
Speaker 9: big and laughing stocks teams in the business of football.
Speaker 9: So it's just a lot of distraction on top of
Speaker 9: distractions on top of that. So it was drama down there, man.
Speaker 9: And I do their home games each and every week.
Speaker 9: I do their away games from my place, but when
Speaker 9: they're home, I go do end stadium analysis as far
Speaker 9: as for their media and the fans stuff. So I'm
Speaker 9: tucked in with them and following them real close.
Speaker 3: Man. It was just it was bad.
Speaker 9: The local media was beating them up, the national medium
Speaker 9: was media was killing him. I think it was the
Speaker 9: right move for the franchise to cancel his contract. But again,
Speaker 9: I do think that coach Peterson havn't taken a year off,
Speaker 9: have some time to evaluate the NFL, and you know
Speaker 9: how the game is going now, get creative while he's
Speaker 9: at home. He's the offensive genius. The things he's done
Speaker 9: in Philly, you know, for those four years winning the
Speaker 9: Super Bowl Quarterbacks. He's a great former quarterback who's going
Speaker 9: to be a great quarterback coach. I just think that
Speaker 9: with that, along with the quarterback, his confidence is amazing.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be great. Man.
Speaker 2: He's gotta be great.
Speaker 9: Now that the drama's gone, he gets to settle down.
Speaker 9: I like to see what Travis etn is going to
Speaker 9: do to help James Robinson to take some pressure off
Speaker 9: of uh Lawrence Trevor. So, yeah, I'm expecting the Jags
Speaker 9: to have a big year, and not just saying it
Speaker 9: because I'm a former player, just seeing there how all
Speaker 9: the pieces can fall in play. I think they definitely
Speaker 9: will win. They'll be above five hundred. That's a's a
Speaker 9: big statement, I think. So it's league it is, but
Speaker 9: I think they'll be above five.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they got a good defense. They put some pieces
Speaker 9: together there. I think they did a great job. In
Speaker 9: free agency. They went up some big receivers. I think honestly,
Speaker 9: I think they probably overspent a bit for those receivers.
Speaker 9: They got Christian Kirk what's my guy out of Carolina Raiders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is good.
Speaker 9: Not to say that those guys aren't worthy of you know,
Speaker 9: the contracts that they got.
Speaker 3: Guys are really good players. I just think that.
Speaker 9: Based on the market, how the market was set, that
Speaker 9: they you know, they went out there and took their shots.
Speaker 9: And you know, when you have guys like Dvante Adams
Speaker 9: out there, cheetah what he just got in the contract
Speaker 9: that he got, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Jacks had the draft liquidity to
Speaker 1: go get you to the right.
Speaker 9: They got so much equity and liquidity and cash cap
Speaker 9: space they had everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and draft picks. They only have one draft
Speaker 1: pick this year, right, the first overall pick, though, because.
Speaker 11: Davante, they had to trade up some picks, right, Cheetah,
Speaker 11: they traded some picks.
Speaker 9: The two first round first in the draft really equates
Speaker 9: to two first round picks at the end.
Speaker 1: Of the statement, agree with that it all depends on
Speaker 1: the value of the draft class too.
Speaker 10: How strong is your need in the value of the draft?
Speaker 10: I agree, I think it.
Speaker 2: Might the first overall pick. This is what I've heard.
Speaker 2: This is not my own statement, so go ahead.
Speaker 1: What I've been told is that there's no like this
Speaker 1: is the number one overall guy. There's no like this
Speaker 1: quarterback is in the second coming of Peyton Manning. Guy
Speaker 1: in this draft right now, where I think that first
Speaker 1: overall pake would.
Speaker 2: Be much more enticing to some things that need a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jacksonville isn't that team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Trevor's going to be a stud. He
Speaker 1: can sling that thing. He's got the beautiful man. He's
Speaker 1: killing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't see well, I can foresee the Jags uh
Speaker 9: in my mind, in my opinion, trading back, trading out
Speaker 9: of that spot.
Speaker 3: Really, I don't as.
Speaker 1: Though someone who needs as rusher like Aiden Hudginson, who
Speaker 1: he is, an offensive lineman like James O'Neil, which I
Speaker 1: think you guys need.
Speaker 3: I think they do need an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: I think I was told that. I think you guys need.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Robins.
Speaker 9: Great, yeah, Cams solid, uh, Juwan Taylor is solid. I
Speaker 9: don't think they've been as consistent as the team would
Speaker 9: like them to be to protect you know, the number
Speaker 9: one thick and hopefully the future.
Speaker 1: Not To keep in mind on that statement, it's very
Speaker 1: difficult as an offen time when you're playing behind for
Speaker 1: every game, if you're losing games by a lot of points,
Speaker 1: you go in a half, you say, hey we got hit,
Speaker 1: we gotta throw the ball out run two minutes, right.
Speaker 1: These rushers know they're painting their ears back. It's not
Speaker 1: fair to cama JA want to be like these guys
Speaker 1: didn't do X, Y and Z when you're playing from
Speaker 1: behind by so much.
Speaker 3: That's very true.
Speaker 9: And then you look at you look at the little things,
Speaker 9: the things that you know. I'm sure you go out there,
Speaker 9: you look at you know, your your your first step,
Speaker 9: You look at your hand placement, You look at your leverage.
Speaker 9: You know, a high hat up or down. You know,
Speaker 9: you want to make sure you're solid. A lot of
Speaker 9: times when you look at these guys, you know, I
Speaker 9: don't want to say they it's always sloppy play, but
Speaker 9: when you see multiple holding in games and you question,
Speaker 9: you know they're discipline their techniques and this is back
Speaker 9: to back weeks.
Speaker 3: That's not acceptable in the NFL. Uh And in a
Speaker 3: lot of times too.
Speaker 9: You're right if you're going to drop back X amount
Speaker 9: of times because you're playing from behind, at least script
Speaker 9: up something where the running backs are going to come
Speaker 9: out there and help the tackles ship on your release,
Speaker 9: quick release, whatever it might be. You got to help
Speaker 9: the guys. So I think we have two pretty decent tackles.
Speaker 9: Cam just got tagged franchise tag. I think he's getting
Speaker 9: fifteen mil a year.
Speaker 2: Which is not very much money for the.
Speaker 9: Eighteen or whatever it might be. Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 9: But you got to go out there and earn it.
Speaker 9: I don't know what they're going to do. You know,
Speaker 9: he's pretty good and actually we just sent our guard
Speaker 9: to Washington in exchange for Brandon, So I don't know, man.
Speaker 9: I think Jacksonville has enough equity to make whatever move
Speaker 9: they need to make in the draft to make the
Speaker 9: team better. But I do like to start with coach Peterson.
Speaker 9: I think he's gonna you know, I think he's gonna
Speaker 9: do well for him.
Speaker 1: You got an owner who loves the franchise, puts a
Speaker 1: lot of money into it. You go to that stadium,
Speaker 1: it's always beautiful, right, there's the pool in the back
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So they're throwing good money into it. They're not afraid
Speaker 2: to spend.
Speaker 1: I know the NFL, but I'm saying from like, but
Speaker 1: people have crushed owners in the past for kind of
Speaker 1: like these are billionaires, even got their money from oil
Speaker 1: or stock market or whatever. Yeah, parents whatever, relaxed guy.
Speaker 2: But in those.
Speaker 1: Situations, people are like, well, these people don't put money
Speaker 1: in the franchise, who's gonna want to come there?
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: This guy spends money, he puts money in it.
Speaker 2: Thing that was missing.
Speaker 1: I don't and Listen, this is not well, I guess
Speaker 1: it is my statements, So I'm fucking saying it.
Speaker 2: Keep doing that, keep doing it, remember my ass, I
Speaker 2: really do.
Speaker 1: But his leadership, like we're able to this the next
Speaker 1: level because it's great leader. You know these some of
Speaker 1: these coaches, Sean McVay is a great leader of men.
Speaker 1: So he's taking these guys to the next level. They
Speaker 1: obviously have the star power. But Peterson, right, I think
Speaker 1: he's he's he's a leader of men, and that's that's
Speaker 1: the thing that's missing. Or if you're in those tighter games,
Speaker 1: maybe you pull those things out because those guys maybe
Speaker 1: know a few more keys that they might have shown
Speaker 1: in a Friday tape or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, he has a clean slate.
Speaker 9: I mean he's been off for a year, right, and
Speaker 9: he's going into a team that hadn't done anything over
Speaker 9: the past since twenty seventeen actually when they made the
Speaker 9: FC Championship run. They haven't done anything and a lot
Speaker 9: of those guys don't even on the team. So what
Speaker 9: he's inheriting is, you know, a very young team. There
Speaker 9: aren't a lot of veteran guys on the team. You
Speaker 9: hit it right, you know, the nail right in the
Speaker 9: head when you said leadership, what's their identity? You know
Speaker 9: who's that that see that Captain patch on your jersey.
Speaker 9: That doesn't mean a fucking thing. No, you gotta go
Speaker 9: out there earn that each and every week and not
Speaker 9: just you know verbal it. You got it for me,
Speaker 9: it always came through my play. It wasn't a rah
Speaker 9: rah you know talk. You know, I'm not going to
Speaker 9: motivate you through a speech. I might say, you know,
Speaker 9: I would probably say on Saturday every blue moon when
Speaker 9: it go save Fred, we need you. I ain't just
Speaker 9: gonna go out there and say, you know, that just
Speaker 9: wasn't me. I want to go out there and bust
Speaker 9: a fifty yarder on you know, third and two, you know,
Speaker 9: in a nine man box, diamond front or whatever.
Speaker 3: I want to motivate you that way.
Speaker 9: I want to get everybody excited and then you know,
Speaker 9: we can create that momentum that way. But they just
Speaker 9: never over the past couple of years, I think they've
Speaker 9: lost their identity in that sense. You know, plays Campbell
Speaker 9: when he was out of the building. You know, unique
Speaker 9: these guys who were part of that that amazing that
Speaker 9: that Saxonville defense when they made that run.
Speaker 3: Who are those guys? Allen is great. I can't really
Speaker 3: speak for Josh because I'm not in the building, but
Speaker 3: looking at his play, I think guys will follow him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they just recently.
Speaker 1: When you play against him too, he's the one when
Speaker 1: he's jumping over going well right, well even at timeouse
Speaker 1: when you're you're in a timeout, he's if let's say
Speaker 1: we're playing them and we were playing, well, he's getting
Speaker 1: on the guys about X, Y and Z.
Speaker 2: He's not afraid to speak up. I like Josh Allen
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: I think he's a stud. Uh.
Speaker 9: They just released Myles Shack. Who was that that? Yeah,
Speaker 9: he's a study.
Speaker 3: You know, they released Miles so it's like a wild
Speaker 3: card to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd always get that little fifteen yard on you.
Speaker 11: But he looks talking right right, He's somebody who's like
Speaker 11: super talented and as a linebacker who watched him just
Speaker 11: sometimes I thought he'd be lazy in his technique because
Speaker 11: I'm thinking, like, bro, you could be.
Speaker 3: One of the You have the ability to be one
Speaker 3: of the greatest to ever do it, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Sometimes right, but you're putting no attention to it. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 9: I'm looking at things and I'm looking at those guys,
Speaker 9: but I'm not looking at technique for technique, play play
Speaker 9: and play out. But I know that they respect my
Speaker 9: You know, the players definitely gravitate towards Miles, but he's
Speaker 9: no longer in the locker room and on the offensive side.
Speaker 9: Let's be honest. I mean, who you're turning. You have
Speaker 9: a young quarterback. You know, he's trying to voice his opinion,
Speaker 9: but he's still he was just a rookie.
Speaker 3: You know. Guys looking like this ain't fucking college doesn't fly,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So I don't think that the offense had a clear
Speaker 9: identity in terms of leadership, a guy that they can
Speaker 9: point to when it was crunch time. But hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 9: they'll figure it out. I don't know who that guy
Speaker 9: is going to be. And they might even lean on
Speaker 9: the quarterback because he, like I said, he's a high talent,
Speaker 9: very confident.
Speaker 3: His poison is amazing. I just want to be able
Speaker 3: to see him replicate success. We can week out and
Speaker 3: show some consistency. I think they'll be all right.
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Speaker 3: Going back on your that's dope, bro, Going.
Speaker 2: Back on your career.
Speaker 11: Is there anything you look back on and you think
Speaker 11: you wish you would have done differently? Like, because you
Speaker 11: talk about injuries all the time, right, you talk about
Speaker 11: how you had like an injury ritten career. Do you
Speaker 11: like look back and be like, damn, I wish I
Speaker 11: would have took care of myself a little bit differently.
Speaker 9: I joke a lot of times to say I wish
Speaker 9: I would have been born ten to twenty years later
Speaker 9: for a few reasons. Right, these fucking checks are crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean you're getting scribes and getting seven million dollars
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 2: A lot of money out there, a lot of money
Speaker 2: out there for them boys.
Speaker 9: But even though that one, aside from that, right, just
Speaker 9: the science, the science, you know, and how the game
Speaker 9: has evolved to how guys are taking care of their
Speaker 9: bodies so early, you know, going in, they they right
Speaker 9: now nutrition, nutrition is top dog. We came in, you
Speaker 9: had teams like the Cincinnati Bengals on their their medal table,
Speaker 9: they were giving the guys Popeye's, chicken.
Speaker 2: McDonald's after after.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but that's not what these guys are getting now, right,
Speaker 9: you know, those little things actually matter.
Speaker 3: I learned that later in my career.
Speaker 9: When you look at just from a medicinal standpoint, that
Speaker 9: just that I ain't talking about cannabis.
Speaker 2: As long as you pass the test, doesn't you know?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I smoked my entire career. That's a
Speaker 9: whole nother story.
Speaker 2: I mean part of their program growing up. Figure.
Speaker 9: But yeah, so yeah, just just a few things, man,
Speaker 9: just learning how to take care of your body and
Speaker 9: this day and age, man, I mean, the science is there,
Speaker 9: you know, you just understand it. I think I would
Speaker 9: have gravitated towards that more so, and how I work
Speaker 9: out and training in the off season when I played,
Speaker 9: I didn't do a thing in the off season until
Speaker 9: March when we reported back to Many Camp or not,
Speaker 9: but OTAs prior to Many Camp, I just didn't care.
Speaker 9: Later on, I felt that that was more important. Then
Speaker 9: my numbers started sending. I got better as a player,
Speaker 9: I maturer there. But I don't have any regrets other
Speaker 9: than can this be the locker room moment? No, I
Speaker 9: guess that. Wait, no, no, no, I guess I could
Speaker 9: talk about it. Yeah, I got something else for a
Speaker 9: locker room moment. I guess I figured out. Yeah. So
Speaker 9: the only regret that I have as a player, it
Speaker 9: was in two thousand against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3: We took a trip down to Orlando. Myself and like
Speaker 3: eight other guys.
Speaker 9: We took a trip to Orlando, got back to jack
Speaker 9: We went to party down there. It was like a
Speaker 9: classic or something. Got back to Jacksonville team meetings at
Speaker 9: eight am. We got back to Jacksonville at seven forty
Speaker 9: five am, rolled in a team meeting room. Our our
Speaker 9: suits and everything was in a limousine ready for the plane.
Speaker 9: Somehow we all stumbled and we were all toasted. We
Speaker 9: were fried and we were a rap. Went through the meeting,
Speaker 9: somehow made it through the walkthrough, flew up to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 9: I was cramping on Saturday. I cramped all day Sunday.
Speaker 9: I was dehydrated. Luckily for me, it was a Sunday
Speaker 9: night game.
Speaker 3: Otherwise I wouldn't have played at a one o'clock or
Speaker 3: four am.
Speaker 9: So Sunday night kickoff. It was three Rivers Stadium before
Speaker 9: they imploded it. Now it's Hinesville at the stadium by
Speaker 9: the way. Yeah, it's super dope, right, crazy fans too crazy.
Speaker 9: So yeah, so that night, so I ended up rushing
Speaker 9: for two hundred and thirty four yards four touchdowns. Cramped up,
Speaker 9: uh late third, early fourth quarter, didn't play the rest
Speaker 9: of the game. I feel like I could have broke
Speaker 9: the single season or single game record that day if
Speaker 9: I didn't cramp up, because it still has never stopped
Speaker 9: me that day. So that's yeah. I didn't take IV
Speaker 9: at halftime or anything. I just was cramping up. It
Speaker 9: was crazy.
Speaker 3: You ain't take IV's for any of it, you know what.
Speaker 9: Iv IV's that half became popular much later in my career.
Speaker 3: That wasn't a thing even before games too, that was
Speaker 3: not a thing. Water and gatorade and they had this
Speaker 3: thing they had.
Speaker 9: It was like these little electro like tablets that you
Speaker 9: could put in your gatorade in like fizz.
Speaker 3: It was all bullshit, but it was crazy. I mean
Speaker 3: it's probably work, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2: That's another thing.
Speaker 11: On anything that you do like this bullsh it don't work.
Speaker 11: But they're just fucking good, So you can't say much
Speaker 11: to them, no doubt.
Speaker 9: But no, seriously, though, that was my biggest regret. I
Speaker 9: feel like I could have got the single game Russian record,
Speaker 9: and I know a certain coach Coughlin would have given
Speaker 9: me the more. Yeah, that's so that's my only regret
Speaker 9: in my career.
Speaker 2: Damn. That's tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, fuck, I only it's that's a that's a
Speaker 1: hard that's a hard to regret, my guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But my overall career though, I mean I had my
Speaker 9: share of injuries. Man, I partied, I was hanging out.
Speaker 9: I did a lot of stuff while young stupid, you know,
Speaker 9: running through Jacksonville, running through Miami, you know, unconsciously just
Speaker 9: just whatever.
Speaker 3: You know. I was wide open man, and uh, you know, had.
Speaker 1: A good jack And Garrett hated you growing up, hated y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here, dude. You were talking
Speaker 1: so much guys before you watch on the bus.
Speaker 3: So I remember, like it was yesterday.
Speaker 9: My fifth game out of my my career was against
Speaker 9: the Titans, the fifth game of my career. The previous week,
Speaker 9: James Stewart got hurt, one of your guys, Tennessee volunteer. Uh,
Speaker 9: Stu got hurt because people in Jacksonville were calling me
Speaker 9: a bush.
Speaker 3: That's after four games preseason fast pre season.
Speaker 9: Huh it was number nine ninety eight. Yeah, so they
Speaker 9: were calling me a bus and uh that's crazy.
Speaker 3: So Stu got hurt.
Speaker 9: Coach Coughlin, Uh, Tony Boselli just recently elected Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Bo was like, this fucking rookie's coming in oh ship.
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't think I had it.
Speaker 9: Went in my first carry against the Ravens, fifty two
Speaker 9: yard touchdown that backsweek.
Speaker 3: I toasted the Ravens that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they were the defense.
Speaker 3: They were.
Speaker 9: They were that defense, the best defense in the league
Speaker 9: history down, and I gave him the business. They were
Speaker 9: the top dogs from ninety eight to like two thousand.
Speaker 9: They're still top dogs, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great defense, Lewis like four yeah people.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I gave him the business. The very next
Speaker 9: week was the Titans playing at Vanderbilt. I remember that
Speaker 9: playing at Vanderbilt. Probably at the game, the shittiest locker
Speaker 9: room in the history of the NFL. It was the
Speaker 9: worst turn Yeah, no shadows Vanderbilt. They were garbage right
Speaker 9: there was awful. But I remember having a like buck
Speaker 9: thirty that that day. I know y'all were crying that
Speaker 9: went home crying. It was astro Turk.
Speaker 2: Y'all were crying.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, were crying on the way home. Oh
Speaker 9: ship ninety eight, Yeah it was ninety eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, I don't really have any regrets
Speaker 9: on my career, man, other than that one game. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I thought I did okay, And it comes with what
Speaker 9: it comes with. I think I will make the Hall
Speaker 9: of Fame someday.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about that because I
Speaker 1: don't want to bring this up to in a bad way.
Speaker 1: But Chris Johnson was on IM Athlete and he was
Speaker 1: talking about what's the criteria? I think I should be
Speaker 1: in it? And with Chris he changed the game. You're
Speaker 1: with him on that.
Speaker 9: I agree with that. What's the criteria? Yeah, criteria? What
Speaker 9: is the criteria?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 3: What is it? I don't know.
Speaker 9: I retired fifteenth all time eleven thousand, six hundred and
Speaker 9: you know, thirty five or something.
Speaker 1: Yah, exactly the number, you know, exactly the two records.
Speaker 9: It's been a while since I looked at it, but
Speaker 9: at the time when I retired, I knew my numbers
Speaker 9: were better than fifteen of the guys that were currently
Speaker 9: in the Hall of Fame, whether they're a modern era
Speaker 9: or old school, my numbers were better than these guys.
Speaker 9: So that alone, right alone, what's the criteria? You just say,
Speaker 9: this guy is better than these other guys, Like, I
Speaker 9: think he's deserving of a spot in here. I not
Speaker 9: first ballot, obviously, I think I would have been first
Speaker 9: ballot if I hadn't missed sixty I missed sixty games
Speaker 9: in thirteen years. Oh damn, sixty fucking games I miss
Speaker 9: I missed fourteen and for twenty eight games. My last
Speaker 9: two seasons almost when I was in New England. That
Speaker 9: actually brought my rushing average per game down, and my
Speaker 9: yards per Kerry came down based on the games that
Speaker 9: I shoot it up for. The Patriots got one snap
Speaker 9: or two snaps because of their system. So now when
Speaker 9: you look at per game averages, they came down because
Speaker 9: I dressed out. But you know what I mean. So
Speaker 9: I do think that I will make the Hall of
Speaker 9: Fame win. I don't know, but I think my career
Speaker 9: was worthy. My numbers speaks for a SI. I agree
Speaker 9: with Chris. You know, Chris was a bad man. The
Speaker 9: only thing I disagreed with was when he said he
Speaker 9: was the first two hundred pounds back to come in
Speaker 9: and be every down back. I was through twenty six
Speaker 9: doing it just as fast. I ran four two eight
Speaker 9: forty at two twenty six coming out.
Speaker 2: Damn on grass faster than Chris.
Speaker 9: Oh hell no, I wasn't faster than Chris. But I
Speaker 9: ran four two eight forty one grass at my FLOORIA
Speaker 9: work out. Chris ran is in Indy at a comebine.
Speaker 9: I didn't run that to comebine. I was advised by
Speaker 9: my agent not to what I would have. He just said,
Speaker 9: just run on your pro day. There's no tes I'm
Speaker 9: trying to.
Speaker 2: I'm trying.
Speaker 9: I didn't even train for my pro day. I didn't
Speaker 9: train for the combine. I didn't train for my pro day.
Speaker 9: I did I did six. I did six. This knew
Speaker 9: you were going up there. God, God is my witness
Speaker 9: on my dying grandmother. I did six twenty yards. Start
Speaker 9: to train, I went down in New Orleans coach Tom Shaw,
Speaker 9: and Coach Shaw might be watching at something. He's in
Speaker 9: Orlando now, but he had his facility in New Orleans.
Speaker 9: I went down there because my agent, they had a relationship.
Speaker 9: I went down there and after the first day of
Speaker 9: you know, getting acclimated and doing his workouts and everything,
Speaker 9: we did a few starts. He said, he pulled me,
Speaker 9: I say, why are you here. I was like, because
Speaker 9: my agent asked me to come. I'm working out. He's like,
Speaker 9: You're the closest thing to Bo Jackson I ever seen
Speaker 9: in my life. Damn, he said, while you're here. The
Speaker 9: next day I left. I was out of there. I
Speaker 9: was out of there, man. And I just didn't train myself.
Speaker 9: Jack Ques Green and we just we did a few
Speaker 9: starts on the track field back at UF and Gainesville
Speaker 9: and the next thing, you know is Pro Day and
Speaker 9: we went out there and we lit it up. Yeah
Speaker 9: damn forty one inch vero to a forty on the grass.
Speaker 3: That's got to be.
Speaker 1: That's so insulting to being well, yes, bronding rock four
Speaker 1: Montage during my pro day training, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: And this motherfucker's just going out with a homeboy on
Speaker 11: the track and just be all.
Speaker 2: Right, I feel good, man, let's go do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't really say that, you know, as you know,
Speaker 9: I'm not bragging. I'm looking back, I'm like, fuck, I
Speaker 9: really could have really trained and killed a whole lot
Speaker 9: of stuff. Yeah, you know, I could have been in
Speaker 9: these conversations where these guys are the fastest forties and
Speaker 9: this and that or whatever.
Speaker 3: I could have been right there, much bigger.
Speaker 9: But I do agree with Chris on the the whole
Speaker 9: criteria thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: The only thing that I disagree with is that I was,
Speaker 9: you know, a two hundred plus pound back and every
Speaker 9: single first down, second down, third down, old line. He
Speaker 9: wasn't the one that started that, right, Yeah, you were fucking.
Speaker 3: Right, bucking love shifting a little bit.
Speaker 11: Like I wanted to ask you because we've all seen
Speaker 11: like the documentary thirty for thirty broken stuff like that,
Speaker 11: and doing some digging on your stuff. It seems like
Speaker 11: you had an incident where you were defrauded like three
Speaker 11: and a half million dollars, right, And I was wondering
Speaker 11: if you would speak on that, and then also if
Speaker 11: there was like advice or any insight to any young
Speaker 11: guys or anybody listening that can be in this position,
Speaker 11: you know, to be a little more, to be more
Speaker 11: cautious or be wary of science that you you know,
Speaker 11: maybe you look back on the thing I should look
Speaker 11: for those things.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 9: No, I'm always willing to speak on it, man, because
Speaker 9: it'll help someone else and I'll do a huge service
Speaker 9: to them as well as myself.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 9: You know, for me, it's gratitude and giving back and
Speaker 9: that's the first thing I look for. I know, we're
Speaker 9: you know, what is it twenty four years removed since
Speaker 9: my rookie year ninety eight, and you know, things are
Speaker 9: more prevalent and right in front of us. And I
Speaker 9: think from a financial literacy and taking care of your
Speaker 9: finances as players athletes, guys that don't come from those
Speaker 9: demographics that.
Speaker 3: I haven't been able.
Speaker 9: To inherit what financial awareness and being able to take
Speaker 9: care of the money right. I think it's a huge
Speaker 9: service for them for me to speak on it.
Speaker 3: I came in.
Speaker 9: I chose my first agent first and foremost because he's
Speaker 9: a black guy. I had an opportunity to go with
Speaker 9: Lee Steinberg. They really a courted me and try to
Speaker 9: recruit me, but I turned them down. I don't even
Speaker 9: regret that, you know, because I feel that in hindsight,
Speaker 9: I have an opportunity. This is the part of me
Speaker 9: that became a part of me. It became a part
Speaker 9: of my story.
Speaker 3: It's a tool that I can use to help other
Speaker 3: people right, to try to steal them clear of falling
Speaker 3: in the same trap that I fell in.
Speaker 9: So I chose my first agents black guy. He recruited
Speaker 9: me like a father figure, you know, my father. We
Speaker 9: developed a relationship late in my life, around my junior year.
Speaker 3: Of high school.
Speaker 9: My dad came back from the military, got back involved
Speaker 9: in my life.
Speaker 3: But I still didn't have.
Speaker 9: That guy that I trusted as a father figure in
Speaker 9: certain black my first agent, and he came in. I
Speaker 9: had a five million dollar signing bonus in ninety eight.
Speaker 9: That was ninth big, that was huge. I had potential
Speaker 9: to make like sixteen meal on my rookie deal. And
Speaker 9: he took that check after I signed it. I remember
Speaker 9: seeing two point eight million dollars going to a bank account.
Speaker 9: I took five hundred thousand just so I can have
Speaker 9: my you know, my bills and whatever I needed. So
Speaker 9: what they did was they took that money invested in
Speaker 9: an offshore account, which eventually became a Punsie steam. They
Speaker 9: took that put all of it over there, like two
Speaker 9: point three mili. They put it over there. But they
Speaker 9: would give me these window documents of what I was
Speaker 9: getting for return on the investment, which was like thirty
Speaker 9: brand a month. So at the time off of two
Speaker 9: point three million, I'm seeing thirty thousand, you know, thirty
Speaker 9: thousand dollars a month. That's three hundred and sixty thousand
Speaker 9: a year. I'm like, all right, we can, we can
Speaker 9: do you know a little bit more than in the market.
Speaker 9: That's fine, but you know, you fast forward. It ended
Speaker 9: up being a Punie scheme, total bullshit. At that time.
Speaker 9: Ninety eleven happened the market crash and a lot of
Speaker 9: my teammates ran back to the locker room.
Speaker 3: They lost a lot of them. Yeah, in those times,
Speaker 3: they lost a lot of money. But my money was
Speaker 3: frozen and the punies.
Speaker 9: So what the government did was we filed a claim
Speaker 9: to say, all right, we were involved in this. So
Speaker 9: the money that was frozen, I ended up getting back
Speaker 9: about two million dollars of it. Uh so I lost
Speaker 9: the three hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: Plus whatever entry I could have made a regular investor.
Speaker 3: And that was like four years later.
Speaker 9: Right, So I go from tank Black to another guy,
Speaker 9: Jeff Rubin, who I knew from college, and a lot
Speaker 9: of other guys knew Jeff. Sorry, Jeff befriended me. We
Speaker 9: ended up getting together. He became my financial guy.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 9: It's sort of I always think about that, like like
Speaker 9: the new girl that comes down. You know, if you're
Speaker 9: that guy that meets her first, you get friendly with her,
Speaker 9: you know, then you have a better shot at her
Speaker 9: than the other guys. So Jeff kind of we're coming
Speaker 9: off of a I was coming off of a.
Speaker 3: Bad break, right, and he was the first guy to
Speaker 3: say I can do this, this, this, this, and this
Speaker 3: all right, cool, We're good let's go.
Speaker 9: So he ended up I hired him as my financial guy.
Speaker 9: Some investments early on were very moderate, very conservative, right,
Speaker 9: mutual funds, easy stuff.
Speaker 3: Three four.
Speaker 9: He took he started taking shots in these private equity deals.
Speaker 9: He put us in this casino deal down in Alabama
Speaker 9: and Bama. It was I thought it was a good deal, right,
Speaker 9: It was a it was a charitable Bingo operation, which
Speaker 9: at the time was they were great in Alabama, but
Speaker 9: the politics in Alabama never so great. So they raided
Speaker 9: the They built up the casino. It was amazing property.
Speaker 9: They built it up. On our opening night, they raided it.
Speaker 9: And they said, this is a legal operation. The Bingo
Speaker 9: is a front for this, that and that. Whatever I
Speaker 9: can get into that, but I would take for it.
Speaker 2: Is that true? Nah?
Speaker 3: They just changed the law. It just changed the freaking
Speaker 3: law overnight. Uh.
Speaker 9: And we were slated to make I had like one
Speaker 9: point six million that deal and probably was gonna do
Speaker 9: about sixty on our money a year. Yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 9: It's casino, right, it was an amazing property. So it
Speaker 9: was just gonna just print money. So fast forward. They
Speaker 9: shut that down, lost that money, had to fight against
Speaker 9: the banks, had to fight against the law firm that
Speaker 9: eventually actually didn't give us operating agreements and ppms, so
Speaker 9: we sued the law firm that did it settled out there.
Speaker 9: Sued the bank because a lot of things are forced
Speaker 9: through the bank. But Jeff Rubin, who's the financial advisor,
Speaker 9: he's a sixty minute Special two ad teo. Ray lewis.
Speaker 9: A lot of the top guys want to curse myself.
Speaker 9: He's still just out there living the dream. But it
Speaker 9: was just bad man, and uh just got with bad people.
Speaker 9: And you know, but I learned the valuable lesson stuff
Speaker 9: that I can talk to my kids about.
Speaker 3: I can talk to young players about.
Speaker 9: I can go into these uh speaking engagements in these
Speaker 9: different fortune five hundreds and talk to their uh their
Speaker 9: employees about. So in hindsight, you know, it's a blessing
Speaker 9: in disguise. I learned a lot and I'm much better
Speaker 9: for it now in terms of finances. Uh, it's gonna
Speaker 9: help my kids, you know, in the long run. But yeah,
Speaker 9: it's just in the platform you have with Pivot and
Speaker 9: the platform now. Sure, so those experiences, man, you know,
Speaker 9: they they're not short of anything. I can give back
Speaker 9: in so many different ways. So yeah, it was just bad.
Speaker 9: It was timing was always yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, I don't know this segment, the Tier Talk, Tier
Speaker 1: Talk locker room story.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, all right, so Tier Talk, here's what we got.
Speaker 2: We put together a few lists.
Speaker 11: You're gonna rate them tier one to tier three, all right,
Speaker 11: because our fan based their team one being the best too, obviously,
Speaker 11: and then you get the deal.
Speaker 9: So what we have as your research guy, because I've
Speaker 9: seen they got my hometown on there.
Speaker 3: They got a lot of.
Speaker 2: I believe what Alex goes to you Alex back there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but here's what we have.
Speaker 11: We have five backs from each decade of the eighties, nineties,
Speaker 11: and two thousands. In the eighties, you see Eric Dickerson,
Speaker 11: Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, O, J.
Speaker 2: Simpson, and Tony George said.
Speaker 11: In the nineties you got Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Marshall Falk, Terrell,
Speaker 11: David Thurman, Thomas you're kind of like a tweener, and
Speaker 11: Eddie George. And in two thousands, that's where we put
Speaker 11: you Ap Clinton, Portis, Priest Holmes and Ladanian, Tomlinson. Okay,
Speaker 11: Tier one, Tier two, and tier three. Gimme those from
Speaker 11: those decades.
Speaker 3: I'm ranking each dee.
Speaker 9: You're ranking the decades, like, which decade are you taking off.
Speaker 9: Oh so I got to take the decade itself and
Speaker 9: not the player.
Speaker 11: Yeah, ran the players. You can rank the players. That's
Speaker 11: a little fun too. Start with the decade, all right,
Speaker 11: So starting with the decade? Uh man, I think, uh fuck.
Speaker 11: The eighties were solid.
Speaker 9: They were running backs were drafted to do in the eighties.
Speaker 9: Eric Dickerson two thousand yards, Walter Payton, my idol, Eryl Campbell,
Speaker 9: you know Downhill, oj we know what the Jews did?
Speaker 9: Tony dor said, you know, praying for TD.
Speaker 3: Subtle one line, not not that we know what the
Speaker 3: Jews did.
Speaker 2: I think there's a book about that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of what he did.
Speaker 9: No, I mean in terms of what what he what
Speaker 9: he did on the field as a player, The eighties
Speaker 9: is tough.
Speaker 3: She's I think I'll go with the nineties, though one one.
Speaker 2: Here, one slotted in. Yeah, final answer.
Speaker 9: My huge Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk is the reason I
Speaker 9: wear twenty eight. Terrell Davis didn't play long enough, but
Speaker 9: he was a beast. Durnman missed the consistency. He did
Speaker 9: everything in Buffalo Catch Run, top Dog.
Speaker 3: I gotta go eighties Tier two.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, I gotta keep running your decade last Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think we have some great players
Speaker 9: in my decade. Eric Dickerson first two thousand yard back.
Speaker 9: You know, like I said, Walter uh uh uh, Walter
Speaker 9: Payton was just that guy man. He influenced me.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 9: But my my, my decade. I love Ladanian, I love
Speaker 9: Adrian Peterson. If I had to rate those guys in
Speaker 9: my decade, I'm gonna go LT one, Adrian Peterson two,
Speaker 9: myself three quarters four and Priest Owns five. Priest had
Speaker 9: a hell of a line in casey. I think Clinton
Speaker 9: certainly better than Priest. Clinton has some some good juice too,
Speaker 9: coming from Denver and heading over the Redskins. That slash
Speaker 9: running play thirty eight thirty nine, it was he did
Speaker 9: some good stuff there. But yeah, man, Barry Sanders is
Speaker 9: the best aside from Jim Brown.
Speaker 3: Barry is you know, he's my one B back all time.
Speaker 9: Emitt Florida Gator, but I think Emmett is like he's
Speaker 9: probably like seven or eight or nine or ten on
Speaker 9: the list of all time. Yeah, he had some monster
Speaker 9: a lions. Yeah yeah, and it wasn't fat fancy. He
Speaker 9: just was downhill, one cut and go. He didn't like.
Speaker 9: He wasn't for me, he wasn't entertaining, but he did play,
Speaker 9: you know, in the Cowboys Jersey, and that was more
Speaker 9: entertaining itself. I'm gonna take Adrian Peterson, La Danny, and
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go Eric Dickerson, Walker Peyton just on this
Speaker 9: list right here, Eric Dickerson, Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson one
Speaker 9: too for sure. But Danny and Adrian Peters No, no,
Speaker 9: not one, yeah, no, not one two. I'm sorry, not
Speaker 9: one too, because Barry is one.
Speaker 2: You're you're you're running backs of all time.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was gonna go that way. So Barry Barryer
Speaker 9: is one. I like to say, Walter Payton for me
Speaker 9: is two difference in his three. Marshall Fall would be four.
Speaker 9: La Danium would be five. Uh A p would be six.
Speaker 9: I'll put myself in there at seven.
Speaker 3: I got two.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I respect this seven right little game. Yeah, it
Speaker 9: it's dope because OJ was a monster. OJ was the
Speaker 9: beast a lot of ways. Yeah, uh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 9: with I'll go right here with uh eight consistency, Thurman nine,
Speaker 9: oh J ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're better than Emmitt Smith and O J and
Speaker 2: Thurman hell, yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I think I don't. I don't want to.
Speaker 9: I think if I'm healthy. You know, Walter Peyton the
Speaker 9: best thing. He did the same with Emmett. Those guys
Speaker 9: were on the field. Yeah, you know, they were there
Speaker 9: every Sunday. I think Walter missed one game. I don't know,
Speaker 9: ten eleven, twelve years or whatever. He missed one game.
Speaker 9: So the consistency is there. But even those guys on
Speaker 9: the list, only myself and Barry Sanders, guys with twenty
Speaker 9: five plus uh touches twenty five hundred touches of more
Speaker 9: are the only backs on on this list. The half
Speaker 9: four point six yards per carry out m Yeah yeah,
Speaker 9: so but that's my list, That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Outstanding.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So for our last standing segment, by the way, the
Speaker 2: tier talk, yeah, I thought.
Speaker 11: That was fire, especially with the you know, with the
Speaker 11: great with a great sitting on here Brady running backs.
Speaker 11: For our last segment, locker room talk, give us a
Speaker 11: good old fashion like we got we got whistle pig
Speaker 11: sitting here.
Speaker 2: We're sitting back.
Speaker 11: You're telling a bonfire story, whether it's on or off
Speaker 11: the field. And if it's you know, if it's something
Speaker 11: where you don't want to share identities, that's fine. But
Speaker 11: just tell us a good old fashioned locker room story
Speaker 11: that you tell the boys.
Speaker 9: I know, but don't get too excited because I mean,
Speaker 9: will text me probably four or five hours ago somewhere, yeah,
Speaker 9: under the bus, that's dope.
Speaker 3: I was. I was somewhere on Broadway, so getting smashed.
Speaker 10: I had to take yeah, because you you wouldn't take
Speaker 10: the back.
Speaker 9: I had to go take a nap. So I didn't
Speaker 9: even have a chance to really think of a story.
Speaker 9: But man, you guys know, it's so much ship that
Speaker 9: goes on. Man, I don't know what jumps out. I
Speaker 9: remember my brother and good friend would come in the
Speaker 9: huddle during the games.
Speaker 3: He was like, hey, dude, let's go, baby, we won't have
Speaker 3: a good game today. Let's go.
Speaker 9: And I would look at his eyes and his eyes
Speaker 9: would be bloodshot. Very good, his eyes will be bloodshot,
Speaker 9: and uh, I was like, Okay, he's ready to go.
Speaker 9: He's hype. Yeah, I didn't know he was doing cocaine. Yeah,
Speaker 9: before the game. I don't know if I should tell
Speaker 9: that story, but whatever, Yeah, I don't know, I do
Speaker 9: know that in two thousand and eight and this isn't
Speaker 9: so much locker room talk, But in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 9: this is probably more so a story, you know, to
Speaker 9: help the young guys that go out that might feel
Speaker 9: that they have a sense of entitlement when they go party,
Speaker 9: might have had one or two or three too many drinks.
Speaker 9: I remember being on South Beach in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 9: I hung out, just out minding my business, had a
Speaker 9: good night, went to my car. This guy came over, Hey, Fred,
Speaker 9: pleasure to meet you. My brother was like, man, you're
Speaker 9: just too friendly. Get your ass away from here. You're
Speaker 9: too friendly. The guy went back inside. I told the
Speaker 9: security that we were threatened. We weren't threatening, and.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 9: Thirty forty seconds later, eight South Beach police pulled up,
Speaker 9: throwing tastes and guns.
Speaker 3: Get your ass in front of the car.
Speaker 9: They kicked me. I had on some tight ass jeans.
Speaker 9: They can spread them. I can't spread them, no more
Speaker 9: super tight. They lamed me on the hood of the car,
Speaker 9: and so they were like, hey, they put the dog
Speaker 9: in the car. And at the time, my wife she
Speaker 9: hates dogs absolutely to this day, not that she hates dogs.
Speaker 3: She doesn't like the way they smell.
Speaker 9: Okay, he doesn't like how I smell when I come
Speaker 9: from outside in the house.
Speaker 3: You smell like outside. Go take a shower.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 9: So she yeah, she yeah, her nose is her nose
Speaker 9: is crazy. Like the dog's like yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you ain't getting lucky unless you're showered up
Speaker 3: one hundred one thousand percent. So are you clean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 10: They were looking for stuff.
Speaker 9: They let the dog go in the car. They didn't
Speaker 9: find anything. They got me. They threw me in back
Speaker 9: of the patrol car and took me down to the
Speaker 9: South Beast station. But the guy left the cuffs unlocked.
Speaker 9: So when I got down there from there, and there
Speaker 9: was a lieutenant that was in there, he saw me.
Speaker 3: Coming, he was like, Freddy T. That ain't Freddy T.
Speaker 3: That ain't. Come on, No, take the cuffs off. What
Speaker 3: the fuck are y'all doing? Take those cuffs off.
Speaker 9: So the guy who was in there, he was a
Speaker 9: guy who came to the team in Jacksonville. That he
Speaker 9: didn't make the team, but he was the guy that
Speaker 9: I looked out.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: That's how I was as a as a veteran guys,
Speaker 9: I always rooted for anybody that came. Look, man, this
Speaker 9: is what you gotta do. Try to make the team.
Speaker 9: So he remembered that. So he was like, take these
Speaker 9: cuffs off of Freddy.
Speaker 3: I know. Whatever you guys are saying he did, he
Speaker 3: didn't do it. He's nothing like that. He should have
Speaker 3: done the cuffs off. They didn't even put me in
Speaker 3: the holding cell like. So he's like, you're not putting
Speaker 3: him in there. See him on his bench, You're not
Speaker 3: putting him in there. This shit ain't right, Like whatever's
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 9: So he was like, they took the cuffs off, and
Speaker 9: I'm rubbing my wrists like what the He's like, that's
Speaker 9: the trick that they do for the cops to be
Speaker 9: nash ste you know, and trying sort of threw over
Speaker 9: you or whatever. You don't lock the cuffs because the
Speaker 9: more you move, the tighter they get. Oh really right, right,
Speaker 9: So he was like, they did the old bullshit to you.
Speaker 9: He started laughing. I started laughing. It's like four point
Speaker 9: thirty in the morning. They let me go under my
Speaker 9: own recognis or whatever. They read a statement. I didn't
Speaker 9: know what it meant. I just wanted to get it
Speaker 9: was now I was slightly inebriated. It was like whatever,
Speaker 9: I drove and my brother drove me forty five minutes home.
Speaker 9: And when I got home it was six am, just
Speaker 9: in time for the morning news to come on, the
Speaker 9: local morning news.
Speaker 3: And then that.
Speaker 9: Jacksonville Jaguars running back Fred Taylor was arrested night in
Speaker 9: charge for this underordly conduct on South Beach. Before I
Speaker 9: can even close my eyes to.
Speaker 3: Go to sleep.
Speaker 9: Oh, it was like or something crazy, and I had
Speaker 9: to go back to Jacksonville. The team was like, what
Speaker 9: the fuck this happened? But it was two thousand and eight.
Speaker 9: It was prior to.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if the commissioner had just
Speaker 3: you know, goodell.
Speaker 9: I don't know if Roger had just taken over as
Speaker 9: a new commissioner then. But I know the rules weren't
Speaker 9: that strict because if I had that, had he charged,
Speaker 9: then I would have gotten suspended for a few games.
Speaker 3: Oh damn, But I didn't. Right.
Speaker 9: I had to get in front of the team and
Speaker 9: apologize to the team for everything that went on. And
Speaker 9: my mom is a cop. She's retired now, you sure.
Speaker 9: She's like, look, you just got to be careful how
Speaker 9: you talk to these cops, you know, because you don't
Speaker 9: know what type of day they had or what's going
Speaker 9: on in their lives. You can't curse them and this
Speaker 9: and that. So that's where the solely conduct came from.
Speaker 9: So that's not so much locker room talk. Hopefully that's
Speaker 9: a story. Hopefully that's a story that can say some
Speaker 9: of these guys that get out there and they feel
Speaker 9: like I didn't do anything wrong, which is how I felt.
Speaker 9: But you can't say everything right because there are charges
Speaker 9: for everything, and you don't want to be one of
Speaker 9: those guys that you know, when you wake up, you're
Speaker 9: on Sports Center.
Speaker 10: No no, no, in your top story.
Speaker 9: So yeah, that was me. So hopefully that will help
Speaker 9: some of these guys. But it's a million other stories.
Speaker 9: Trust you, I got some ship. I just say, yeah,
Speaker 9: we'll have to have.
Speaker 2: You on again.
Speaker 9: We'll figure it out. I'm always down, man, Yeah, certainly
Speaker 9: down for sure.
Speaker 1: And it seems like Pivot's really just blowing up right now,
Speaker 1: murdering the game.
Speaker 3: We're definitely doing good, man, we're doing good. Uh. Channing
Speaker 3: is great. He's the He's the.
Speaker 9: Wildcard, there's no question about it. Then I would like
Speaker 9: to also say Ryan is the wildcard. Ryan is just
Speaker 9: a pro. He's so good at what he does. Man,
Speaker 9: he does so much. Yeah not Ryan is so good man,
Speaker 9: and he what he does is effortless and he's so good.
Speaker 9: I think, Yeah, Ryan is He's going to be one
Speaker 9: of those guys that will eventually be if he decides to.
Speaker 9: He can be the face of Sports Center or ESPN.
Speaker 11: Talking about like a steven A, which that interview, by
Speaker 11: the way, was phenomenal and.
Speaker 3: They did open up and show a good side. He
Speaker 3: really did.
Speaker 9: And you have people that talk about steven A they
Speaker 9: call him koon and sell out and all right. Look,
Speaker 9: you know, I don't watch enough TV to kind of
Speaker 9: see everything that he has, but I do know the
Speaker 9: one thing that stood out for me in his interview
Speaker 9: what he said was and it's ten years there, He's
Speaker 9: done thirty plus thousand takes in their lots. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: now you're in the moment where you're just, you know,
Speaker 9: giving your opinion on things. And that's what it is,
Speaker 9: his opinion. So I'm adult enough to understand you have
Speaker 9: an opinion. You myself, these guys right have an opinion,
Speaker 9: and once it's out there, we have to live with it,
Speaker 9: and he's done a great job of doing that. You know,
Speaker 9: they're more so hard on him about two people, really
Speaker 9: Colan Kaepernick, which he later came on and he vouched for,
Speaker 9: and then also Kyrie Irving, you know, and and everybody
Speaker 9: has an opinion on what Kyrie is doing as a player.
Speaker 9: I thought you did a good job, except but you
Speaker 9: look at people that you know, they came on when
Speaker 9: we posted promos and said, hey, nah, I ain't watching
Speaker 9: the show because this guy is a sellout. He's a coon,
Speaker 9: he's he's corny, he's this he's.
Speaker 1: Keeps saying that he's Stephens a steel And is that
Speaker 1: a racist thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay, Jed. I'm glad I didn't say it out.
Speaker 3: Right now, but that's this is what they're saying, right so, and.
Speaker 11: That's why this is more so like and crab for wrong.
Speaker 11: But like what black people will say to black people
Speaker 11: right right.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not something that you and I
Speaker 1: actually go out right, No, so's it's just it's just
Speaker 1: nothing that we So it's more so in house.
Speaker 3: It's not that we want to or not. It's just
Speaker 3: nothing that it's I've.
Speaker 11: Never really heard even it doesn't even really make you
Speaker 11: see us weirdly beating around this there we go, right, but.
Speaker 9: It doesn't make it even really make a whole lot
Speaker 9: of sense, truthfully. And the one thing about me is
Speaker 9: I'm going to speak to both sides right. When I
Speaker 9: see something, I'm going to call it how it is.
Speaker 9: I prefer to be black and white. You know, I
Speaker 9: love transparency, and I think that's what stephen a is.
Speaker 9: Some people feel that Disney is pulling the strings, yeah,
Speaker 9: you know, because they own ESPN or the network, right,
Speaker 9: but I think he did a pretty solid job of
Speaker 9: throwing a different side of himself, of explaining the Kyrie thing,
Speaker 9: of explaining the Colin Kaepernick thing. Uh, you know, we
Speaker 9: were grateful to have him on. He let us in
Speaker 9: his house, man, he brought us lunch. It was a
Speaker 9: great interview my opinion. So but yeah, we're building. You
Speaker 9: we got a long way to go, man, but we're building.
Speaker 9: And uh, we're you know, they've already had it. My
Speaker 9: dream guess is dream guests. Oh, I see we did
Speaker 9: numbers though we did good. Yeah it was we did
Speaker 9: really good.
Speaker 2: Guys, are welcome. That was awesome to be a part of.
Speaker 3: This is crazy but uh, I like you. I like
Speaker 3: to get Donald Trump in the seat.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, you're going after since you saw the whole
Speaker 11: note boy thing, right, yeah.
Speaker 9: YouTube take it down. They had six million in a day.
Speaker 9: Thank you know, not even just for the views or whatever.
Speaker 9: Just have a conversation, you know.
Speaker 2: Did you ask him?
Speaker 11: What's something that you'd want to ask him?
Speaker 3: Do you like black people?
Speaker 1: M I mean, I feel like that'd be a good
Speaker 1: little short on YouTube anyway that probably.
Speaker 9: Just let him talk about just let him talk seats.
Speaker 9: That's what we do. We like, we like to let
Speaker 9: our guests. Yeah, you know, let's if there's controversy out
Speaker 9: there and people are looking at you this way and
Speaker 9: have an opinion, we want to bring you on so
Speaker 9: you can answer that.
Speaker 3: You can say what the hell you want to say.
Speaker 9: But because we know that this is what's going on
Speaker 9: in the public or the masses might think one way
Speaker 9: or the majority the majority of people might think this way,
Speaker 9: we want to ask you what's up with that and
Speaker 9: let you explain it. You can tell a lie, you
Speaker 9: could like, whatever it might be, but we're gonna ask
Speaker 9: that question.
Speaker 1: You're going to share your narrative, right, So do you think,
Speaker 1: do you think Donald Trump black's black people?
Speaker 2: Is that something from four years of presidency?
Speaker 11: Don't I don't think you wouldn't say on the because
Speaker 11: you guys are a platform that will ask those simple
Speaker 11: questions and let them speak, and you won't have much
Speaker 11: of a.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what. So now it's a great question.
Speaker 3: So you know what. For me, I think I think
Speaker 3: there are certain rhetoric out there that's.
Speaker 9: Been divisive, right, and it's following that. I don't think
Speaker 9: he dislikes back across the board. I don't think that.
Speaker 3: I think that he was playing into his you know,
Speaker 3: his following, this demographic, right, But I don't think he
Speaker 3: dislikes black people. I think that.
Speaker 9: He plays more so into his following because he's a
Speaker 9: politic politician, I'm sorry, and you know, he has to
Speaker 9: do things to keep his camp, his base solid, right.
Speaker 9: He's talking about he's trying to get re elected too
Speaker 9: at the same time, but he said a lot of
Speaker 9: stuff that's very divisive, you know, in the eyes of
Speaker 9: a lot of people.
Speaker 3: And obviously I think that.
Speaker 9: I have a lot of friends white, black, other whatever
Speaker 9: it might be. But I think when he got in office,
Speaker 9: those people who were not as vocal and certain subjects.
Speaker 9: You know, they sort of showed certain colors right and
Speaker 9: started vocalizing certain things.
Speaker 3: Yet they're still my friends to this day. He still
Speaker 3: have conversation.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I try and be an adult about things.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I.
Speaker 9: Don't think he hates black people per se. I don't
Speaker 9: think he dislikes black people. I think he's certainly playing
Speaker 9: into his camp and what he had to do to
Speaker 9: try to get reelected. I think he is a media
Speaker 9: and attention whore. At the end of the day, he
Speaker 9: knows how to play that game exactly. He's a politician.
Speaker 9: He politician, but he look to go on Twitter. I
Speaker 9: don't think any politician should be allowed. Yeah, if we're
Speaker 9: going to go and vote for these people, there's other
Speaker 9: ways to get our attention, maybe a website all this
Speaker 9: other stuff. But if you're on Twitter, you know you
Speaker 9: havn't fights. You know on Twitter, that ain't cool. Even
Speaker 9: when run the Santas the governor of Florida stepped into office.
Speaker 9: He's a big, big trumpet. He's a Republican. Florida's a
Speaker 9: heavy Republican state. I did not vote for the Santa
Speaker 9: Right initially, but the things he's doing in my state
Speaker 9: are pretty cool. They're good, they're solid, and he's trying
Speaker 9: to set himself up so he could potentially run for
Speaker 9: Senate and maybe at some point president. Well, I vote
Speaker 9: for him or Republican at some point. I grew up
Speaker 9: in a household where I grew up in the household
Speaker 9: of six kids. We had to learn to share and
Speaker 9: get along, right, So from that I developed a more
Speaker 9: of a democratic you know, mindset, sharing and you don't
Speaker 9: get along. I think as I've gotten older, at heart,
Speaker 9: i'm more of a Democrat because I like this. I
Speaker 9: think that the system works best when we put into
Speaker 9: it right, and I know a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people believe that. From a taxation standpoint, this
Speaker 3: that other, I think that helps the system turns better.
Speaker 9: When a Democrat is an offered. But from a business standpoint,
Speaker 9: I'm more of a Republican mindset because I bust my
Speaker 9: ass for what I've I've earned what I have, so
Speaker 9: I don't want the government to just take it all.
Speaker 3: But I do know that there are.
Speaker 9: So many different tax loopholes and things that we can
Speaker 9: take advantage of as business people and people that have
Speaker 9: earned seven or eight figures or whatever it is. We
Speaker 9: can take advantage of a lot of deductions, but I
Speaker 9: didn't come from a lot, so as much as I have,
Speaker 9: it's still more than what I've ever had.
Speaker 3: So I don't really get into.
Speaker 9: The whole like tax me thirty percent or twenty that
Speaker 9: ten percent ain't gonna kill me. I feel like it's
Speaker 9: giving back in a sense. But I am lately i've
Speaker 9: been an independent. No, yeah, I'm an independent, but yeah,
Speaker 9: I just wanted to make sense. Man, I ever vote
Speaker 9: for a Republican president if his messages right and if
Speaker 9: it's warranted, then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, the whole the whole party thing is pretty difficult.
Speaker 3: It's stupid to stand on because.
Speaker 11: Because you feel because I like, I know, speaking for me,
Speaker 11: like you feel weird saying any of these labels because
Speaker 11: you realize what people, we're.
Speaker 3: The United States of America, Right, we're.
Speaker 1: Actually a constitutional republic as well a constitutional republic.
Speaker 3: But what's the fucking the pledge of allegiance.
Speaker 1: To the flag of the United States of America indivisible
Speaker 1: and for the Republic for which it stands indivisible.
Speaker 3: But we're fifty state What do you mean indivisible? Right?
Speaker 9: That's a big word for me, right, so so every
Speaker 9: state has its own laws, and that's divided in itself. Right,
Speaker 9: we have parties. That's divided. But you said in the
Speaker 9: in the in the in the pledge. Right, but we're divided.
Speaker 9: You say we can't be divided.
Speaker 3: You know that doesn't make any sense to me. Why
Speaker 3: do we have to have parties?
Speaker 1: America's it's a large demographic, And I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think parties are a difficult way to go because
Speaker 1: there's some things from the Democratic Party that I think
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and there's things they do that
Speaker 1: I disagree with. Now the Republican side, it goes the
Speaker 1: same way. The things I like about the Republican Party
Speaker 1: and there's things I don't like about the Republican Party.
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to find a world. People
Speaker 1: are gonna be pissed about this. I've never voted, and
Speaker 1: I you know, I thought about voting this less election,
Speaker 1: ended up not doing it. I probably will in the
Speaker 1: next one because because of this, the last election and
Speaker 1: watching and knowing more and getting older, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: But it's a it's it's tough to put labels on
Speaker 1: things because if I say to you, I'm a Democrat
Speaker 1: and you're a Republican.
Speaker 3: It you other different.
Speaker 2: The opposite.
Speaker 3: That's where that guy, Oh you look at me.
Speaker 2: This guy's a libtard. This guy thinks this.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's tough for me to draw a line
Speaker 1: in the sand with things because you know, people watch
Speaker 1: this episode of the show that on both sides of
Speaker 1: the fence, my opinion really doesn't matter. To be out
Speaker 1: to the world, no, no, but to give us the world
Speaker 1: like there's things that I will if someone asks me
Speaker 1: a question, I'll answer it.
Speaker 2: I'm an open book that way.
Speaker 1: But for me to go about my opinions about stuff
Speaker 1: to get mad on Twitter and be like this, Oh no, Biden's.
Speaker 2: Doing this or Donald it's not me. That's that's just
Speaker 2: not my vibe.
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be I don't know what
Speaker 1: there needs to be, but the whole blue and red
Speaker 1: is it's a difficult thing for me to identify with
Speaker 1: because I've never liked living in a box, right.
Speaker 3: I just think that, yeah, that makes great sense.
Speaker 9: I don't like the whole party thing because we're divided
Speaker 9: straight out of the gate.
Speaker 3: You know, it's simple.
Speaker 9: But I do know that when the Democrats are in office,
Speaker 9: from an investment standpoint, I do know what the big
Speaker 9: corporations do, you know, I know they cut a lot
Speaker 9: of jobs. They try and say that numbers aren't adding up,
Speaker 9: and it pretty much gives you a key on different
Speaker 9: things you can invest in, right, and then vice versa,
Speaker 9: exactly when the Republicans are in office, So you know,
Speaker 9: you take that and you take advantage of it. You know,
Speaker 9: you live long enough, you'll be able to identify these
Speaker 9: things when you are investing. We got to live. It
Speaker 9: doesn't matter who's in office. At the very end of
Speaker 9: the day. We got to deal with shit, right, right.
Speaker 9: But I just don't like the whole foundation of this country.
Speaker 9: Pretty much. It's telling us what we are and what
Speaker 9: we should be, but then it's contradicting that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of manipulation, for sure.
Speaker 3: Everyone's commenting on everyone's.
Speaker 9: Everyone's commenting, and people were picking a side, you know,
Speaker 9: And that was the biggest challenge for us in the
Speaker 9: past two years, not only the pandemic but politics, you know,
Speaker 9: what was going on, you know, and our every day lives.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we we I think we've gotten past that. Man.
Speaker 9: I just want to live and be happy, man, and
Speaker 9: enjoy my kids, my family. You know, build companies make
Speaker 9: a whole lot of money. Man, that's all the fun
Speaker 9: I wanted to That.
Speaker 2: Sounds a good deal. You know who else is about
Speaker 2: to have a ken?
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you know what?
Speaker 3: So oh you watch when baby watch? Baby watch?
Speaker 2: Make it happy?
Speaker 3: Baby watch what you're expecting?
Speaker 2: Will it's a baby girl?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 11: To day is Sunday, Sunday? Yes, you're listening now, it's Wednesday.
Speaker 11: The dud day was this past Sunday. I might be
Speaker 11: a dad as you guys are watching, or we might
Speaker 11: be late in the game.
Speaker 3: We might be late in the game.
Speaker 2: We know, bro standing dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I pointed at Taylor because he couldn't get the Sandon.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what why we had to do the late? Why
Speaker 2: we had to do this later? That's right.
Speaker 9: People don't see all of that, man. You know you
Speaker 9: take that into account. Man, what's that like? They don't
Speaker 9: They don't always get that part right, Like they wouldn't think,
Speaker 9: you know, the big strong I'll knock your ass out.
Speaker 9: You know, Taylor, the one gotta not do his show
Speaker 9: because he ain't got a nanny.
Speaker 10: Yeah, my god, man, I try to be the good
Speaker 10: dad family. First, no question about it. First, I appreciate
Speaker 10: you guys. Man, I APPRECIREI put the jacket on. I
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Speaker 3: I hope you get your dream guests. I do think
Speaker 3: you you guys are able to figure it out.
Speaker 11: Trump will come on well for you to ask that
Speaker 11: question either, I will be fucking dial there.
Speaker 3: Can I say this really quick?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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