1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Happy Monday people, we got Prazinski and cam aj welcome back. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Where were you this weekend? 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: I was in Texas this weekend, just to think about it, 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: Phillies Texas this weekend. 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: So the Phillies must have been really happy this weekend. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Not only did they sweep the Rangers. We'll get to 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: the Mets Brewer side of things coming up in just 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: a moment, but Philly's playing well aja against the Rangers team. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: No you don't think, no, no, no, no. 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: They Here's what they Here's what they have now. They 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: have that monster at the back end of their bullpen. 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: And when I talked to Rob Thompson, their their manager, 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: you know what he said, He goes it sets up 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: everybody else, slots them back and inning sets up everybody else. 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: In rules, they're more accustomed to them, what they're more 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 2: used to. So he's like, this is freaking great man. 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: Oh Dave Dombrowski, Yeah, good job. You got the guy 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: that your really needed and came out. I'm just mad 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: that Duran came in and it wasn't in Philly. I 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: could watch that light show. But other than that, Phillies 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: are good, man. They get clutch hits. They hit homers, 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: they got some speed, they're playing better defense with Bader 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: and center field, and their starting pitching we know, is great. 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: And then you put the rant of the back end. 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: Alvarado comes back and it was unavailable for the postseason, 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: moves Romano up and inning, move some of the other guys, 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: stromp some other guys up in inning here and there. 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: It's a pretty good team they got. 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think him. 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: On the head. It just really sets everybody up for 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: success when you look at it. You talk about it 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: now too. 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 5: When you add him, now, all of a sudden, that 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 5: bullpen goes from hey, this is you know, they have 35 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 5: some decent guys, but when you put him in these 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 5: right slots, now, all of a sudden, it's like, hey, 37 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 5: this bullpen is really good because everybody is in the 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 5: right spot. And like AJ said, I love the athleticism 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 5: that they added, and they just play a solid brand 40 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 5: of baseball now too. 41 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 4: I think when you look around the league, you look. 42 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: At the way you know a lot of teams that 43 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 5: have won in the past have done it. It's you know, 44 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 5: quality pitching, good good defense, and being able to score 45 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 5: runs without again talk about waiting on the slug and 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 5: they do it all with having the slug in their lineup, right, 47 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 5: even their guys that slug, they're professional hitters, they get 48 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: professional at bats and they just you know, right now, 49 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: I think the personality that they add, even talking about Bader, 50 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 5: you add just a guy that's greedy, that wants to win, 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 5: that is like, you know, he's a. 52 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: Student of the game. 53 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 5: And I think it all just really bowes well and 54 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 5: exciting when you watch the Phillies play baseball. 55 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: And the Phillies can send to thank you card this 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: weekend to the Bruis. The Phillies were in second place 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: last Saturday. Now they are very much in first place. 58 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: So let's charge. 59 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: Charge about. 60 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: We talked about him a lot last week, Cam and 61 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: I talked about him. AJ. Let's get you to chime 62 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: in again. The Brewers have won nine games in a row. 63 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I can go on and on with the 64 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: stats here. They've won twenty four of their last twenty 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: eight games since July fifth. They also started the season 66 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: zho and four with a minus thirty two run differential. 67 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: They got destroyed by the Yankees and those things called 68 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: torpedo bats. Kids, you can about him in your textbooks 69 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: and your history books. They were twenty five and twenty 70 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: eight talking about Milwaukee through May twenty fourth. Since then, AJ, 71 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: they are forty eight and sixteen. If you play out 72 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: that kind of pace, which they've been doing for months now, 73 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: over a full season, they would win one hundred twenty 74 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: two games. I know you got to do it the 75 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: full year. But they've won nine in a row at 76 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: one point eight in a row, eleven in a row 77 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: right now, it's the nine gamer. They sweep the Mets. 78 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, they're good, Let's just give them credit. You 79 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: know what they've done. And they have no Churio right now. 80 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: Chario's out right now. Some other guys, Joey Ortiz has 81 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: gotten some big hits for him recently after he got 82 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: pretty much bent from Murph. Remember Murph was like, hey, 83 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: this guy, We've given him every opportunity he needs to 84 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: figure it out. He's been better for him. Caleb Durban's 85 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: got his little short leg problem figured out. Yelich is 86 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: in and out of the lineup, but he's been swinging 87 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: it better. Everybody they put in this lineup and any 88 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: point can do damage. They're unbelievably defensively. They pitched incredibly. 89 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Even yesterday, McGill was down all their a lot of 90 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: their guys were down. That didn't matter. They just throw 91 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: whoever out there and they go out and just give 92 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: them shut out. And they were down five nothing to 93 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: the match yesterday and Sean ma and Ian came back 94 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: and won that game. So listen, they're just good. Whether 95 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: it's pocket pancakes or whatever. Murph wants to blame it 96 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: on keep rolling brewers, we will give you credit. You 97 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: have a six six game lead. 98 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: Six games over the Cups. 99 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they lead over the Cubs. Nobody would have said 100 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: that a month ago, two months ago. There's no way 101 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: anybody who has said that. 102 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: So good four months ago, five months ago. It's you're 103 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 5: absolutely right again culture Listen. I just think it all 104 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: speaks to a team full of ballplayers. Right when you 105 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 5: talk about, hey, what position does a guy play, you know, 106 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 5: just say ballplayer. These dudes have guys that do it 107 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 5: each and every night, somebody different each and every night, 108 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: and they pay and they pay attention to the details, right, 109 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: the details matter. And Murphy is a guy that pays 110 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 5: attention to the details, even as far as getting to 111 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 5: know your guys, get he understands what makes each individual click, and. 112 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: You see it on the field. These guys play like 113 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 4: they our family and it shows each and every night. 114 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: So do we think that they can keep this rolling? 115 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they're gonna lose some games, cam but 116 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: do you think they're clear cut the best team in 117 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball? Just that they have the best record 118 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: by what five games over anyone else? That's Toronto and Philly, 119 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: who are second in that category. Blake Snell came back 120 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: this weekend looked pretty good for a Dodgers team that 121 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: won the World Series. So there are still some other 122 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: ball clubs that are like, yeah, we see what you're doing, 123 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: but we'll see in October where things tighten. 124 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. And I think those ball clubs have 125 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 5: every right to feel that way. One in particular we 126 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 5: just spoke about is the Philadelphia Phillies. I'm sorry, listen, 127 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: when you look at that lineup. We talk about what 128 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 5: the Brewers do so well right and the quality of 129 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 5: that bat, but what they don't have is that slug 130 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 5: that those guys like Schwarb or Harper, Castiano's a turner. 131 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 5: I mean, up and down the lineup, guys that literally 132 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: once look up the back and make it a four 133 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 5: run game, you know, and then all of a sudden 134 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 5: you're playing from behind. And then then you're looking at 135 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: that Brewers lineup like, Okay, yeah, you guys are scrappy. 136 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys put together runs. 137 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 5: But you know, in the playoffs, when you do face 138 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 5: a team like the Phillies who can't stream together quality. 139 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 4: At bats as well as you know, beat you with. 140 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 5: A home right at any swing of the bat, I 141 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 5: still think, you know, you have to really consider that. 142 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's not gonna be easy. 143 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 5: They're gonna be hard to beat because they don't they 144 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 5: won't beat themselves. And I think that's what's really important. 145 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 5: And I think that's what makes great great teams great, 146 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: is they don't beat themselves. 147 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: You have to beat them. But I do think the Phillies. 148 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 5: Are still right now when you look at them, when 149 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 5: you look at that boop in the shaping up, they 150 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: are scary man. And I think they're hungry man. They're 151 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 5: tired of losing in October. 152 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: They want it bad. 153 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Aj for me, this is a team that they 154 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: just swept, that they could meet in the postseason. Right 155 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: the New York Mets. These were some close games and 156 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: they had some things break their way. I'll give it 157 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: to them. I mean, yesterday five nothing, the metsicos a 158 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: run in each inning, and then the Brewers stormed back. 159 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: You had the day before where they had the one 160 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: run cushion, but then there were two more runs add 161 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: it on thanks to contraras with the home run after 162 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: the pitch clock violation on Ryan Helsley. So these were 163 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: some close games, but I mean some devastating losses on 164 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: the Mets side, and I mean the miz should be 165 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: back soon. He pitched a SIM game over the weekend 166 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: and he said he felt fine. He's ready to go ineligible. 167 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: So Tobias Myers, who's not stretched out obviously, just pop 168 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: up in the bullpen. No big deal. One, two, three inning, 169 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: and then I think we should keep talking more about 170 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Big wu. He's six and oh since he came back, 171 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: or I don't know what his record is. The Brewers 172 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: are six and oh since he came back. I don't 173 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: care about pitch a record. We could talk about that 174 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: another time. But anyway, this was Sunday's game. AJ it's 175 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: five to nothing, they come back, Isaac Collins. Everyone's like, 176 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: who the heck's that? And now you got to know 177 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: the name home run off Edwin Diaz and they had 178 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: a great comeback and Contreras hitting two home runs in 179 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: this and that game was telling for me too, aj 180 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: because he has the hand issue for much of the year. 181 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: If he's hitting like that, that's a different level of offense. 182 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Also, listen, let's give the Brewers all the credit of 183 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: the world. Well, we got to also look at the Mets. 184 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: Elsley blew two of these games, right, Diaz gave up 185 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: the home run yesterday to walk them off. I mean 186 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: the bullpen and Rogers struggled through his and he had 187 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: to get out of a jam in his inning too. 188 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: So the Mets, let's talk. Yes, the Brewers are playing great. 189 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: The Brewers are unbelievable. They're the best record in baseball 190 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: right now. Let's not forget about the Mets struggles right now, 191 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: because they're not exactly killing it. So the Mets bullpen, 192 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: remember we were praising them, They got Rogers, they got Elsie. 193 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: Now with Diaz at the back end, with Manaya coming back, 194 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: this team's going to be unbelievable. And they go out 195 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: and kind of like what happened with the Yankees. Yankees 196 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: got all these new guys, they struggled. The Mets have 197 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: gotten these guys, and they've also struggled too, so let's 198 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: not forget about It works both ways. 199 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Here Kratz tell everyone why they need to look into 200 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: a virtual private network aka a VPN. 201 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: That's kind of like wearing. 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The lead is five and 221 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: a half for Philadelphia and we've got I think forty 222 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: five ish games left to play. Does either team have 223 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: a chance, the Cubs the Mets, of catching the Phillies 224 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: and the Brewers. 225 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 4: I like the way. 226 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: I'm still worried about the Mets rotation, especially if they can't, 227 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 5: if those starters can't, you know, go a little bit 228 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 5: deeper and give it a little bit more. Like AJ said, 229 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 5: it's not just lights out when you look at the 230 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 5: back of that bullpen, not right now, because baseball is 231 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 5: contagious and struggles are contagious as a team, so I. 232 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: Think it's gonna be tough. 233 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be an uphill climb for the 234 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 5: Mets and then the Cubs. 235 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: You know, I love. 236 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 5: Their lineup, man, I still really enjoy watching them play 237 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 5: the way they do offensively. But I think the Brewers 238 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 5: are gonna finish it off. I think They're gonna continue 239 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 5: to again not beat themselves. They're gonna win the close 240 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 5: ball games, right, That's what they do. I think that's 241 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 5: a part of their their superpowers is they know how 242 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 5: to finish games. They know how to fight from behind. 243 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I don't I don't think they have 244 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 5: a chance. I don't say have a chance. There's a chance, 245 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 5: because things can happen, but I think both teams are Okay. 246 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: I'll praise it this way. Then, AJ do you think 247 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: the Cobs have a better chance of catching the Brewers 248 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: or the Mets have a better chance of catching the Phillies? 249 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: I would say geez. I mean, first of all, let me, 250 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say something real quick, Mike LaVerdi, whoever the 251 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: heck you are, dude, We understand that the starters aren't 252 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: good enough, but the Mets went out and got their 253 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: bullpen guys to help take some pressure off some of 254 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: the guys that are to use. So in the chat, 255 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: if you're gonna blow us up, at least understand what 256 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: we're saying. We understand that. But MANAI are saying, go 257 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: those guys. They haven't gone deep enough into games to 258 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: save their bullpen. So what did the Mets do. They 259 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: went out and got fresh fresh are Arms and Rogers 260 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: and Helsing and some of the other guys to help 261 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: some of the guys that already banged up. So yes, 262 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't help that the starters don't go deep, but 263 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: it also doesn't help that these guys since they goden there, 264 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: haven't performed they the way they were. So thanks Mike 265 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: for the heads up. So next time you want to 266 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: say we don't know what we're talking about, maybe there's 267 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: a mirror. Hey, let's look. Thanks see you now onto 268 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: what you ask Gott. I don't think that any team. 269 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that either team can catch him. If 270 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: the if the Brewers continue to do this, the Cubs 271 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: ain't catch him. And if the way the Mets are 272 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: going right now, like I just talked about, and the 273 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: Phillies are gonna get Nola back soon, I don't know 274 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: that they can be caught because they're just playing too well. 275 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: The Phillies, I mean, on paper, I feel like are 276 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 2: a better team than the Mets with just the way 277 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: they're playing and the way they feel and with the 278 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: ran at the back end. So I don't think either 279 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: one of these can be caught. 280 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, sometimes our show has a 281 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: collective opinion. Often we debate, right Cam, But often we'll 282 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: look at something, especially in the offseason, and we all 283 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: think the same thing. Right, We'll do that on just 284 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: a few major signings that we like, major signings that 285 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: we don't like, trades, et cetera. Right, Like, we all 286 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: smash the Orioles in the off season. That worked out. Well, 287 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: We're going to pat our back for that one. We 288 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: were all concerned about the Mets starting pitching. Starting pitching 289 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: was the best in baseball for the first whatever, two months, 290 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: three months, whatever, it was, okay, and just us bringing 291 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: up those concerns caused a number of Mets fans to 292 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: send us, it's specifically direct messages on Instagram being like, 293 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: you guys are so off apologized, blah blah blah, and 294 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: now here we are. Aj is being told to smash 295 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: the Mets starting pitching more. Howard's come full circle. That's 296 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: how a baseball season works, people, It's a marathon exactly. 297 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm just saying this, Mike's now calling 298 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: us ignorant, So I guess we're ignorant now, So thanks Mike, 299 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: appreciate it or he doesn't like ignorance. I don't know 300 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: how we're being ignorant. I mean, we understand what's going on. 301 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: We're watched what was by the way, watch him cam, 302 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this happening. What was one of the 303 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: first things we said, and I've done, it's a few 304 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: Mets games this year that we said for the beginning 305 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: of the year, the Mets starters don't go deep into games. 306 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: Therefore their bullpen is going to get worn out. We 307 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: have been saying that since I did a Mets game 308 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: the first month of the year and they're averaging barely 309 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: five innings a game. And we all said on this show, 310 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: they're gonna need longer starts from their starters because their 311 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: bullpen is gonna get warmed out. And now guess what, 312 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: their bullpender is getting warmed out. But they they went 313 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: and got new guys because they were like, hey, some 314 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: of these guys are tired. Let's go get some new guys. 315 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: And Mendoz has done the best job you can of 316 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: protecting these guys. 317 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: Exactly. Let's shorten, try to shorten a game. 318 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 5: Let's try to shorten a game because our starters aren't 319 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: really giving our bullpen any length right now, So let's 320 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: shorten the game. And not only are we watching AJ, 321 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 5: you probably play with teams that have done it. I 322 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: played on the Yankees team that you've seen it in 323 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 5: the past history where they rely on their bullpens so 324 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: much in the in the regular season that they're done 325 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: in all in in the in October. They can't even 326 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: make it through October. So we're just literally watching the game. 327 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: And if you not understand AJ and I maybe other 328 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 5: two of the most unbiased people, we really just are 329 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 5: gonna give up, you know, an pane on what we see, 330 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 5: what we've been through, what we've experienced, and this is 331 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: what's happening when you watch the meds right now, Like 332 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 5: if they were dealing, if they were dominating, we'd be 333 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 5: giving them all the praise in the world. 334 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: Period. Wait. 335 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Hold up though, also because Mike Mike, we're having fun 336 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: with Mike today and he's been a long time FT fan, 337 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: and Mike, let's have let's have good fun here. I 338 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: like the back and forth here. You said, those new 339 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: guys are already burnt because the starters aren't going deep. Mike, Mike, 340 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: the trade deadline was ten ish days ago. They didn't 341 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: burn out three relievers in a week and a half. 342 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: It's also mid August. That's just how the MLB calendar works, 343 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: where a lot of relievers start to wear down around 344 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: this time if they've been used a ton. Rogers is 345 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: always used a ton. I mean, he's I think the 346 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: most used reliever in the big leagues in the past 347 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: three four five years. So let's not act like ten 348 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: days of a few new relievers coming over has absolutely 349 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: destroyed their arms. It's ten days, am I right on that. Guys, Yes, 350 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: you can wear your bullpen down, but it takes months. 351 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: So the new guys are not at fault, like the 352 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: Mets are not at fault for where the guys. 353 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: They've also done a good job with Diaz protecting him. 354 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: He gave up a home run yesterday, like he hung 355 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: up with. I think he hung a slider to the 356 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: guy and he hit a home run. I mean at 357 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: Soto almost caught. I mean, so listen, Mistakes happen over 358 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two games. Mistakes happened, but yes, 359 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: over the long haul. That's why the Phillies, in what 360 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: they've done with their starting pitching, has been so incredible 361 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: because no, I mean, besides Nola this year, Wheeler gives 362 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: them six or seven. Every time, Sanchez gives them six 363 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: or seven. Ranger Suarez gives them six or seven. Hel 364 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: Lozardo gave them six on Saturday the game I did pitch, 365 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: great match. De Grom got to win against Jacob to Grom. Right, 366 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: their starters go six seven innings every time. It saves 367 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: those bullpen guys Kirkering and now Duran and Alvarado when 368 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: he comes back, and some of those other guys. So, yes, 369 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: it's a function of each one. The starters don't go deep, 370 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: the bullpen gets worn down. The starters go deep. The 371 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: bullpen usually has bullets left. They both work together. The 372 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: Mets are catching it right now. They're catching it right now. 373 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: And that's the way that roster was developed though and 374 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: put together for him. So Ben, those who doing the 375 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 2: best you can. They tried to bring in reinforcements. They 376 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: had a bad week. How about that, they had a 377 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: bad week and they were into the hottest team in baseball. 378 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: Stuff happens, yeah, right, Hellsley has had a couple tough moments. 379 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: But also let me remind everyone, Ryan Hilseley's good. This 380 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: isn't twenty twenty four, Ryan Holseley, this is twenty twenty five. AJ. 381 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: He's been much more hittable the fastball specifically, that's what 382 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: happened with the pitchclock violation. They're getting to that heater. 383 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: They're getting to that a houndo William Contreras did the 384 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: other day. But if you look at his results on 385 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: his four seamer this year, they're not good. 386 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 5: Well, it's because he hasn't had that dominant outpits this year, 387 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: like it's being so guess what guys are doing eliminating 388 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 5: it and going, you know what, let's get on the heater. 389 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: And when you face a team like Milwaukee, as we're 390 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 5: talking about in the moment, these guys aren't trying to 391 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 5: hit homers. They're having professional at bat at bats, and 392 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 5: when you have those type at bats, you get rewarded, 393 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 5: rewarded at times with the homers. So, you know, like 394 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 5: you said, they faced the hottest team in baseball. And 395 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 5: then Scott, like you said, we've been talking about this 396 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 5: from the beginning of the season. This is our biggest issue, 397 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 5: our biggest worry. When you talk about the roster of 398 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 5: the Mets. It's just been exactly that. 399 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: Brews had a great weekend. So did the Mariners sweep 400 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: Cal Roley Homer each day, they're half game back of Houston. 401 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: They jumped ahead of Boston for the second wild card. 402 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: They're nine to one since the trade deadline. Don't tell 403 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: me the trade deadline isn't massively impactful. It's bigger deal, 404 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: probably in the off season. Cal's forty five home runs 405 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: this season, forty five dingers. One of them was way 406 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: below the zone. Well classic call, let's see if this 407 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: was the one. Now that one's in the zone. But 408 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: he had one, guys, you saw it of the three 409 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: way below the zone. And he also caught Chandler Simpson 410 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: stealing on an off speed pitch. So he really had 411 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: the total weekend from a catcher. 412 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: AJ Somebody called him the MVP, and I got blasted, 413 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna stick with it. He's the freaking MVP 414 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: of the American League because not only was he's doing offensively, 415 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: but he catches every day and he is a Platinum 416 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: Glover defensively. Oh yeah, Andy signed a nice extension this offseason, 417 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: So way to go Mariners. And by the way, who 418 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: they play the Rays. Don't tell me the trade deadline 419 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: don't matter. They traded away some guys. They have been 420 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: playing like craps and say that trade deadline. Mariner's excited. 421 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: Ray's not excited. 422 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, cal homert Off Griffin Jacks too. Was the only 423 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: like significant addition probably for the race. But two oh, 424 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't remember what the pitch was, but it wasn't 425 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: a good one. 426 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 5: And hey, listen and Naylor and Suarez, they keep coming 427 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 5: up with a big time with hits and Randy just 428 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: continues the ring. So it's it's coming together right now 429 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 5: with my guy Agar and my guy, you know, Kevin 430 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: Seisser at the Helm. 431 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, those approaches coming together. 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That is HelloFresh dot com 451 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: slash ft one zero FM to get ten free meals 452 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: plus a free item for life better than box scores. 453 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: Let's sit a topic from the weekend. The Padres take 454 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: two out of three from the Red Sox. Red Sox 455 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: won on Friday they got to the Nick Pivetta in company, 456 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: but then the Padres bounce back with a couple of 457 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: tight wins. And the headliner from the weekend comes from 458 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: the image that was caught of Robert Swarez's setup. So ag, 459 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: I'll let you start this one and take it away. 460 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: You guys were great when we were all talking this 461 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: morning on the phone, So I'll let the players play here. 462 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 4: What do you. 463 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: Got listen if you catch something, Okay, I have no 464 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: problem if you catch something in there. They just shouldn't 465 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: have been doing it where the camera could see what 466 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: they were showing, because now every team in the league 467 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: and the Padres are going, all right, what did the 468 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: Red Sox have on Suarez's glove? Way he sets up? 469 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: So they shouldn't have had it. They shouldn't just had 470 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: it in the dugout. They should have brought it down right. 471 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: Here's the video. And then they cut to Alex Korra 472 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: and he's showing somebody the thing. We're right there, booby. 473 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: So they have something. They should have had that in 474 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: the dugout a little farther down and listen. I have 475 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: no problem with it. It's part of it. It's part 476 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: of what happens. I mean, we used to have still 477 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: frames of guys this pitching this pitch or when they're moving, 478 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: when they stopped, and what they did. So this is 479 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: not a big deal. They shouldn't have done it so blatantly. 480 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 4: Exactly. I agree with AJ. 481 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 5: And then we just had you know, our guys' schools 482 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: on Terry's school, you know cy Young Award winner who 483 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: just also said that he doesn't have a problem with 484 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 5: it at all. 485 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: You know, at the end of the day, with the technology. 486 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 5: That we have, you're gonna have iPads and you're gonna 487 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 5: have you know, extra you know, cameras all over the 488 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: place that's gonna give you different angles and different looks, 489 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: especially after the games are over. 490 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: Right, And in some organizations I've been. 491 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 5: In, they pay guys to literally that's your only job 492 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 5: to sit around all day and find tips on the 493 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: starting rotation on the bullpen, guys on guys in the 494 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 5: minor leagues, like, that's what they get paid to do. 495 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: So for me, this is just a part of the 496 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 4: game that we're in now. 497 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 5: Like AJ said, once upon a time, it was guys 498 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 5: printing out pictures. You know, they had to they had 499 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 5: to go to print it out and wait, you know, 500 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: for eighteen pictures of and eighteen different steals. And now 501 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 5: we just have it on iPads. So guys have been 502 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 5: trying to, you know, get compared. I had avengages for 503 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: it for years and it's not gonna stop me anytime. 504 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: So, like AJ said, just to dude, Gerald Dick or 505 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: you're in the hole. 506 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 5: Just come down here real quick and take a peek 507 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 5: and then go back up there. They just made it 508 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 5: a little bit too obvious. So now here we are 509 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: having to talk about. 510 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: It, all right. We have fans that casually watch the 511 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: game that wonder what is okay, what's not okay. Kyle 512 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Glazer actually from Friar Territory did a good job reaching 513 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: out to MLB and they sent him a note for 514 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: an MLB spokesperson. Clubs are able to add their own 515 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: advanced scouting materials to the dugout iPads that are registered 516 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: with MLB, So there you go. MLB was like, this 517 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: is clean, this is what you're allowed to do. Let's 518 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: show this tweet that went kind of viral over the 519 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: weekend because we're still ptsd ish as a fan base MLB. 520 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm generalizing here, I'm not, but this tweet from Ben Porter. 521 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: Worst thing about the Astros scandal is it ruined people's 522 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: ability to appreciate the new nuances of legal sign stealing 523 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: and recognition of pitch grips and tipping cam. You played 524 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: for the Astros in twenty seventeen. 525 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 2: Bang did they bang the trash can when you hit? 526 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: Or was that only for certain people? 527 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: What's that? 528 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: The twenty seventeen Ostros when you hit, did they bang? 529 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: I listen, I got there a little too late. 530 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 5: So I just want those people like you said, if 531 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 5: it's too now, if it's if it wasn't one hundred 532 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 5: percent like I'm good, I don't want it like certain guys, 533 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like certain And it wasn't 534 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 5: a guy like a lot. 535 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 4: Of guys didn't like to do that. 536 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of guys just was like, hey, 537 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 5: I just I just want to go normal because it 538 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 5: just it gets me in between, you know what I mean. 539 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: So I think it was all just personal preference. Man. 540 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 5: But but but with that, but with that said, but 541 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 5: with that said, even going through that experience like the Astros, 542 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: you know we did we did it the hard way. 543 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 5: Guys are trying to, you know, get things in game. 544 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 5: You know, I played for for the Yankees where just 545 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 5: like you saw on the iPad, they send you home 546 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 5: with it and they literally it's right there, bullpen tips, 547 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 5: starter tips, whoever may be tipping, and it's like a 548 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 5: game and it shows you're gonna watch it all night 549 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 5: before the game to reiterate what you might see out there. 550 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 5: So there are teams doing it just just like you saw, 551 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 5: you know, in a smarter fashion. So it's not just 552 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 5: to sit at you know, second, run on second there. 553 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 5: You know, we have pitch coms. Now you can't just 554 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 5: get still signs anymore. Like those days are over with. 555 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 5: I hear what he's saying, what he's saying, but those 556 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 5: days are long gone over with. And that's because that 557 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 5: was the time that we were in. Right, guys, Hey, 558 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: you could get Catchers signs, you could get Catcher's grifts. 559 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 4: Well, guys are so good now covering it up. People 560 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 4: are still looking for a way. 561 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: Teams are still looking at it for a way to 562 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 5: figure out, Hey, how can we get Terry School's pitches, 563 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 5: How can we get Justin Burlander's pitches? How can we 564 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 5: get the best guys in the game to give us 565 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: a chance to win? So it's it's been going on 566 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 5: for centuries now. We just are in the day at 567 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 5: the age of technology where it's just more prevalent to 568 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 5: you know, have it on iPad. 569 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: It's easier than banging on trash cans. 570 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: No, okay, I can't, I can't let this go on. 571 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: Sorry. 572 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: Nothing was easier than banging on her trash can. If 573 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: you watch the video when Danny Farquark it was how 574 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: it was. 575 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 4: It was easy. I'm tell you, you're asking me how 576 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 4: you're asking me. This is my experience. I'm gonna tell 577 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: you this my experience. 578 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: These guys are you know, when it was going on, 579 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 5: You're down in a tunnel and they're trying to get 580 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 5: the live feed and they're trying to decipher your signs right, 581 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 5: and it was literally pretty It might take six innings 582 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: for a guy to get the catch your signs. It 583 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 5: might take you know, you literally might not get anything. 584 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 5: The Yankees sent us home with iPads aj literally with 585 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 5: a guy's tip, and the red circle would pop up 586 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 5: if he went here like you said, or if he 587 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 5: came back here, or if he did something on a tip, 588 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 5: it would literally stop. Paulse Hey, if you so. Literally, 589 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 5: I got to watch it all night long, all night long. 590 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 5: I got to watch it, study it. So when the 591 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 5: game got it happened and I walked into the box, 592 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 5: it was like boom, there it is first pitch, got 593 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 5: them first pitch of the game. So yes, I'm telling 594 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: you that, I guess it is. It was a bit 595 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 5: if there are better ways, and I'm certain teams were 596 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 5: doing it again prior to the Astros, they just have 597 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 5: not got caught. But there are ways to do it, 598 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: just like you saw on the iPad that are easier 599 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 5: to do. And you have it from pitch one the Astros. 600 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 5: You might not get it the whole game. You might 601 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: get it in the sixth seventh inning. So again, this 602 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 5: is the experience that I went through. 603 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm gonna ask you a question now because 604 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: this no one's ever talked about this, and you're on 605 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: our show and you were on the twenty seventeen Astros, right, 606 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: so you're saying if nobody knew this was going on 607 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: the first pitch of the game, and I put down 608 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: a fastball, and the key was if you hear me 609 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: banging on a trash can for a fastball, they would 610 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: do it as soon as I put down the one. 611 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: You could hear it. So that's the easiest thing is 612 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: they had a live camera feed. Well yeah, again, I 613 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 2: got listen. I got there's late in the season. 614 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 5: I was a waiver acquisition, right, so I don't know 615 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: the exact process, but when I was there, I don't 616 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 5: remember it happening like pitch one of the game. 617 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: I did. 618 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 5: I only remember it happening. And that's a great point 619 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 5: you make, because I've literally never thought about that. You say, 620 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 5: here and make that point again. Half the time I'm 621 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: in the go back. I'm the guy that's in the 622 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 5: in the dugout, aj you know what I mean. Like, 623 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: So I wasn't I'm not even thinking about it like that. 624 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 5: It was more so trying to get signs when a 625 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 5: guy might have been dealing or something, you know, a 626 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 5: guy you. 627 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: Know, couldn't get to a guy. 628 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: But again, I don't remember being like pitch one of 629 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 5: the game guys banging trash cans and again, and I also 630 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: and I've also said too, when I got there late, 631 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 5: it wasn't like first day in Hey Cam, come check 632 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 5: this out. Also, it was you know, like it took 633 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 5: two weeks for them to even be like, hey, this 634 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 5: is the process, this is the thing, Like I didn't, 635 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like because at the time too, 636 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: I played on teams where there were there are TV's 637 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 5: in the tunnel. They're like, you know, at the time, 638 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: computers in the tunnel and go see your bat. So 639 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 5: even then they wasn't like, hey, come loick what we're doing. 640 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 5: I just thought Hey, guys are going down in the 641 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 5: tunnels watching that bats just kind of checking things out. 642 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: So you know, it wasn't just like wide out and open. 643 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 5: For guys that came late after the trade deadline or 644 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 5: waiver pickups as well. You know, you had to kind 645 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 5: of be there for a minute to kind of figure 646 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 5: things out. 647 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair. I just no one's ever talked 648 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: about it. So I'm just wondering because, like it seems 649 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: to me, if I'm hitting and I got a guy 650 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: going or most of the time it's a verbal sign 651 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: from the dugout or a coach or wherever it is, 652 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: you know, or something they do. But if I don't 653 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: have to take my eyes off the picture and I'm 654 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: still if I'm hitting and I still have my eyes 655 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: on the picture, right, and I hear and I'm like, oh, 656 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: here comes a split or whatever it is that day, 657 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: like damn, I'm like, all right, I can I don't 658 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: have to swing at the split because I hear yeah. 659 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: And I don't. 660 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 5: And I can honestly sit here and tell you that 661 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 5: I know for a fact, and I won't say names, 662 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 5: but I know guys that literally were like, nah, I'm good. 663 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 5: I don't want them like they just because, like you said, 664 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: they don't trust it. They just like I rather trust 665 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 5: my eyes and you know what I mean, and see 666 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 5: what I see, because they didn't want to take the 667 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: chances of being in between because it wasn't always right. 668 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: Hey, we love ripping flap packs on Arena Club. I 669 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: just ripped one in a ruby pack. Those are fancy 670 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: schmancy kip and I pulled a matt Shaw twenty twenty 671 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: three Bowman Draft Aqua Lunar Creator refractor card and I 672 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: guess what. Guess what? I got a little offer. You 673 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: get the instant offer right away. Okay, so they're offering 674 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: me one hundred twenty one bucks, sell it back and 675 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: then I can get a new slab pack. What do 676 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: I do? 677 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 6: I want to see this thing. Hold on, look at that. 678 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 6: That's a beautiful card. 679 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: You know what. 680 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 6: I think that's a safe bet. I think it's gonna 681 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 6: make you a little bit of money. I think the 682 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 6: more more big league time he gets, I'd almost take 683 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 6: the deal, though I'm in it for the chase. I 684 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 6: like opening more packs. I think that one hundred and 685 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 6: twenty one can buy you a couple more slabs to open, 686 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 6: and I think you keep chasing until you get someone 687 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 6: you really like. 688 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: But that's the best part about it for me. That's right. 689 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: You can sell it back one hundred and twenty one 690 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: bucks and then open up another slab pack. Use the 691 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: code foul to receive twenty percent off your first slab 692 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: pack or card purchase at arenaclub dot com slash foul. Yeah, 693 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: and my thing is Cam, I'm with you. Hey, you're 694 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: getting homework on pitch chipping. That's one thing, But the 695 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: astros thing cause catchers calling pitches and that you can't see, right, 696 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean you can't see if no. 697 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: One's special camera dedicated just on the catcher to get 698 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: the signs. And I mean, I know Cam said it 699 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 2: wasn't one hundred percent right, but after one pitch, if 700 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: I go like this and here comes a heater, that's 701 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: one hundred percent Until now when a guy gets on 702 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: second listen, you start doing multiple signs, right. But there 703 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: are certain places Toronto we always did multiple signs, changed 704 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: them every inning because we were afraid of them doing 705 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: something right. There were certain places where we did multiple signs. 706 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: Shuston was never thought of that, but then once this 707 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: came out, you kind of look back. And I remember 708 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: at one point we were talking about it. People were 709 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: talking about in Houston they thought they had microphones in 710 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: the clubhouse. Teams were doing their meetings, their their advance 711 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: meetings at the hotel because they were so paranoid of things. Now, 712 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was true or not, but 713 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: that was just things you were hearing, like, oh, Houston 714 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: has microphones in the meeting rooms, in the locker room, 715 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: in the coach's office, and in the cages. They can 716 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: hear what you're talking about and how you're gonna pitch guys. Now, 717 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that was true. It was just rumors 718 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: that were thrown out there. Again, I don't know, but 719 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: that was just things that were thrown out there as 720 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: why the Astros were so good. Yes, besides the fact 721 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: they had really good players. Let's salt listen, their players 722 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: are really good too. Yeah, they they went on the 723 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: line what two more after that? 724 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 5: So I think that says a lot when you talk 725 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 5: about you said the culture that they created, But I 726 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 5: didn't there. I didn't ever hear about the microphones or 727 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 5: anything like that going on. But again, if we're going 728 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: but if we're going back to it too, now, Scott, 729 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 5: let me go back to that. 730 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: Let me go back to the Red Sox and iPads. 731 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 4: You know. 732 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: After I left the Yankees, you know, and went to 733 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 5: play for three four other teams, I was thinking, like, 734 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: why isn't everybody doing this for their players? 735 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: Right? 736 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 5: Like I feel like this, with the technology that we have, 737 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 5: like this should be the expectation. Like Scoop said, if 738 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 5: you want to fix it, then stop tipping, right, don't 739 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 5: don't don't make it, you know, capable of being able 740 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 5: to be accessible on the iPad and and have something 741 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 5: that we can go look at. But for me, I 742 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 5: think these organizations like the Yankees, like Boston, and I'm 743 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 5: sure a lot of the winning rigs are I'm not 744 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 5: want to, you know, just say any you know, organizations 745 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 5: that we don't know for a fact, but I'm sure 746 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 5: they aren't the only two that are trying to do 747 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 5: what they can to give their offense a competitive advantage 748 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 5: against teams. 749 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's changed. I think almost anything 750 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: I have to imagine is watching for pitch tips. And 751 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: some are still probably better and more stacked than others 752 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: in terms of the intel, in terms of the personnel 753 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: that they put to this last layer of the equation 754 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 1: here because we didn't get to it, but I think 755 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: it's important. Derek s Google was very vocal about the 756 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: fact that he thought that base coaches staying in their 757 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: box is becoming a problem. Some fans pointed out how 758 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: this weekend we had that with the Cubs Cardinals game 759 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: that they were calling for the coaches to stay in 760 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: the box. So it seems like the base coaches are 761 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: getting more involved, or at least it's becoming more of 762 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 1: a thing from players speaking out on it. Aj what 763 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: do we do. 764 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: In the box? But listen, because there's a little line. 765 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: They have to stay in their bomb, but they're not listening, well. 766 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: Then you have to enforce it. That's it. Listen. Coaches 767 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: have been giving away pitches for years. I remember when 768 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 2: I first came up, we had certain guys that are 769 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: base coaches. If they did like this, or if they 770 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: move this arm, or if they did this, or you know, 771 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 2: if they stood still, if they moved it was different, 772 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: it was different pitches. So it's been happening for years. 773 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: That's a harder one to control because you know, what 774 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: if they're standing in their box and they still can 775 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: see it, right, so then you got to figure out 776 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: where they're getting it from. So I don't have a problem. 777 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: The only problem I have is with the electronics sign stealing. Okay, 778 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: that's the problem. Anything else, I don't care if you're 779 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: doing something and someone on the field can see it. Now, 780 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: if you have somebody in center field with binoculars and 781 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: they're telling you, I have a problem with that. But 782 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: if you're on the field and you see something and 783 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: you can give your team an advantage, I have no 784 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: problem with that. Get better. 785 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: Some fans pointing out AJ and the chat how AI 786 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: can impact things, right, I was going to be able 787 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: to find tips and all that. 788 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, every team has that, right, every team has 789 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: the ability to do the same thing. That's why I 790 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: don't have a problem with the iPad. Teams should be 791 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: able to scout themselves. I don't think teams do enough 792 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 2: self scouting to where they say, hey, find out what 793 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 2: our guys are doing. Are our guys tipping right? We're 794 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: always looking at the other team. The other team and 795 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: I used to have a talk with the White Sox. 796 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, But like I would say, why don't 797 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: we have a scout that watches us and then reports 798 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: to us what he sees about us. Let's not worry 799 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: about the other team so much necessarily, but let's also 800 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: have a scout that self scouts, Hey, we got this 801 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: guy tipping, this guy doing this, this guy doing this. 802 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: On our own team, We're always looking at the other team. 803 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: We don't ever look at our own team, and a 804 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: lot of teams don't do that. Still, that's the key. 805 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: Just because one team gets it, that doesn't mean that 806 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: every team has it right. But also, you could self 807 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: scout yourself and have AI or whatever you want to do, 808 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: say hey, our guys here here here doing this or 809 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: doing that, and have AI figured out for your own team. 810 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: So it's that's why I don't have a problem with 811 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: what they're doing on the iPads. It's it's there for 812 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: every team to have. 813 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 5: And I'm with AJ and that's I guess that's my 814 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 5: whole thing about this is even to a guy that 815 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 5: played for so many different organizations and how long you 816 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 5: know I went before I played with organizations that were 817 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 5: trying to get their offensive guys a competitive advantage other 818 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 5: than just like hitting him the cage and having them a. 819 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 4: Great approach and you know what I mean, like the 820 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 4: normal hitter meeting. 821 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 5: Like I just feel like, you know, if I'm a 822 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 5: team now, and like AJ said, there are teams out 823 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 5: there now. If I'm a team a guy that's on 824 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 5: an in organization that I had this, I'm like, what 825 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 5: are we doing? 826 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said. 827 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: That's what he said. 828 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 829 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: That's what he said. All right, let's hit the Yankees 830 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: because the struggles continue for this team. They drop two 831 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: out of three to the Houston Astros over the weekend. 832 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: They're playing five hundred balls. Since May first, they're forty 833 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: four and forty three. Since May one, they're twenty one 834 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: and thirty one. Since June twelfth, that's two months ago. 835 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: The Guardians are seven and two this month and chasing them, 836 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: the Yankees might lose the wild card positioning. So let's 837 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: go over two quotes. That's what he said. One will 838 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: go over what Aaron Boone said about Devin Williams, and 839 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: really I can just summarize here Boone. On the first part, 840 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: he said they were staying away from David Bednar and 841 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: trying to stay away from Mark Lighter Junior too. This 842 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: was on Friday when Devin Williams gave up another homer, 843 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: and now that's four and eight games for d will yep, 844 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: and that Boone was trying to find softer landing spots 845 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: for Williams, but that it was difficult at the moment. 846 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: Now he struck out the side on Sunday, but the 847 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: Yanks were already trailing by multiple runs, and that was 848 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: in the mid innings of a game. That is much 849 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: more of a softer spot for Devin Williams to try 850 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: and regain confidence. Let's talk about the other quote from 851 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: Boonie about how fans are kind of losing their mind 852 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: and the Yankees have spiraled for quite a while after 853 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: a hot start. The game is littered with dead and 854 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: buried teams. We're in playoff position right now. We've been 855 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: through two bad months where we haven't performed at a level. 856 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: We need to go back the year before. You can 857 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: pick out a number of teams that are sitting in 858 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: a worse position than we are right now that go 859 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: on a run. We have the people to do that, 860 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: no doubt on my mind. It's just sitting here as 861 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: we talk right now. We haven't been good enough the 862 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 1: last two months. This is different than twenty twenty three, 863 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: where I didn't think we were necessari sarily capable of 864 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: that run, that we needed to really get hot. And 865 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: this is me for a second. They didn't make it 866 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. He said, we were out of 867 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: it at that point. This is different. We're in a 868 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: position right now where we're in control of things. We're 869 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: in a playoff spot. Technically, I believe we have the 870 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: people to get it done. We got to play consistent baseball, period, 871 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: Cam former Yank, I'll let you go first on this 872 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: whole situation. I'll add one more point. I was at 873 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: a party over the weekend around a bunch of Yanks 874 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: fans who are like, this is just a disaster, awful, 875 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: awful season, awful team, blah blah blah, and it's just funny, 876 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: like they made the World Series last year. They're still 877 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: in playoff positioning. But if they're not cruising through the division, 878 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: they're going to hear it. And it's been bad play 879 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: for a while, and I think the sloppiness probably hurts 880 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: fans a lot too. It's just it's they're losing games 881 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: where it's frustrating to watch, and then this Devin Williams 882 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: moment stands out too, because fans are like, why the 883 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: hell is he in any I leverage right now? 884 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 885 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 5: You know, and I think that's a little bit of bonie. 886 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 5: You know, we've talked about it before. He's the type 887 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 5: of manager who's going to have his players back. He's 888 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 5: going to do everything in his power to make you 889 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 5: feel like he believes in you. But I think there's 890 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 5: some moments where you just have to read the room, 891 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 5: right And Devin Williams, we're talking about e ra a 892 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 5: over five and he just hasn't. 893 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 4: Been himself since he's been in those pinstripes. We talked 894 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 4: about it not being for everybody. I mean right now 895 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 4: hasn't looked like this, it's been for Devin Williams. But 896 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 4: you know, he's the least of their problems, right Scott. 897 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 5: When you look at a rotation that has been, you know, 898 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 5: just just decimized with injuries, and you look at Max 899 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 5: Fried and Rodin who started off high, who have kind 900 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 5: of dramatically fallen off the cliff, and now the bullpen 901 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 5: woes have just kind of, you know, carried over into 902 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 5: the guys who have not came and put the pinstrips 903 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 5: on right, So you said it, it's not so much 904 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 5: you know about the losing, but it's how they lose, right, 905 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 5: Sloppy base running, not great defense. They don't play really 906 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 5: well at all. In one in two run ball games 907 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 5: or fewer, they don't. They haven't done well. Probably one 908 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 5: of the rest record worst records in baseball in those games. 909 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 4: So I tweeted this and we talked about it a 910 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 4: while ago. 911 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 5: I asked, I sat and asked myself, it is this 912 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 5: who they really are? 913 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 4: Actually? You know, Judge, I. 914 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 5: Think maybe playing hurt Man came back too soon, and 915 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 5: I questioned, I said, this may be who the Yankees are, 916 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 5: and they're just not the team that a lot of 917 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 5: fans hope they would be. 918 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: Well, I just think this is the roster they're given. Right, 919 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: It's the same thing we talked about last year when 920 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: they lost the World Series. The Dodgers said it. They're 921 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 2: not a great defensive team. They they are home run 922 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: er bust, even though they've tried to get a little 923 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: more athletic, but they're still they're just home run reliant 924 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: most of the time. Right, They're bullpenning made these moves. 925 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: One of the guys in Triple A. The other guys 926 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: have struggled. You know, Bennar has been okay, but he 927 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: struggled a little bit too. There they lose cold at 928 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: the beginning of the year. Stroman's not there anymore. Rodna 929 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 2: has been okay, Freed's been Freed was great at the 930 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: early He's faltered a little bit here towards the end. 931 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: But they are what they are, and that's the thing 932 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: I think that's most frustrating is they don't play a 933 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: clean baron of baseball, like Scott said. They make mistakes 934 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: on the bases, they make their outfield defense has not 935 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 2: been great. You know, Gristram has been okay in center, 936 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: but Domingos has not been good and left at all. 937 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: So you have Stanton in right. So it's like, what 938 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: do we do If you're a Yankee, there's nothing you 939 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: can do. You got your team. There's no more trades, 940 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: there's no more to any way to get players. You 941 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 2: got what you got. You better hope they get hot. 942 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 2: But I love Aaron Boone will go down with the ship. 943 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: Aaron Boone does not deserve the heat that he is getting. 944 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: I agree, because he will stand up for his players 945 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 2: as any good manager should. He will stand up till 946 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 2: his players until the ship hits the bottom. But like 947 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: that right there, like that's just the fluke thing. Bellinger's 948 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: trying to make a play and the ball slips out 949 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: of his hands. But Yankee fans say, like, oh, what's 950 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger doing? Well, he's trying to make him play. 951 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: The ball slipped out of his hands. Sometimes stuff just 952 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 2: happens out of your control. Sometimes they make mistakes on 953 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: their own from mental or whatever it is. But it's 954 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 2: not Aaron Boot's fault. So let's get off Aaron Boone. Okay, 955 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 2: he's doing the best he can with the team he has. 956 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: He's trying to put guys in the right situation. I 957 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 2: don't know. Are they gonna make it? They should still 958 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: make it. Are they better than the Guardians? They they 959 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: should be. 960 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got all the hat aj I Guardians having nothing. 961 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: It's like the Tigers last year. You're playing with absolute 962 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: house money and the Guardians made it to the ALCS 963 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: last year. Not that different of a team. I know 964 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: they lost their closer in Class A, but the bullpen's 965 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: still good. It's a scrappy team. It's a crappy Division. 966 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: They're sixty one and fifty six. They're a half game away. 967 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: They're even in the lost column to the Yankees right now. 968 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 4: They're a problem. 969 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I want and I and I said this, 970 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 5: and I want AJ to kind of chime in, and 971 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 5: I really actually love this to an extent because I 972 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 5: said this last show and I said, Brewers are saving baseball. 973 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 4: And what I meant is. 974 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 5: You know, even right now we talk about KEMDI guardians 975 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 5: do it well, what they do so well right and 976 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 5: we talk about organizational you know, plans, and what are 977 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 5: we doing to develop guys? The Guardians they draft guys, 978 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 5: they developed guys. They don't develop guys who they don't 979 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 5: try to go out and get a bunch of Aaron 980 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 5: Judges and a bunch of you know, Carlos Stans and 981 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 5: a bunch of guys that just you know, are predominantly 982 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 5: powered guys. They want, you know, complete ball players who 983 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 5: can hit for a little bit of power. He can 984 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 5: hit for a little bit of average. They fundamentally are 985 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 5: extremely sound. They won't ever beat you or lose you 986 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 5: ball games, right and even if they don't win, those 987 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 5: type of ball clubs are starting to compete again. Right, 988 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 5: And I think it's promoting the complete ball player, the 989 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 5: complete game again. 990 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, when you look at the 991 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 4: Yankees and you put all this power in all this, 992 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 4: you know, you. 993 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 5: Know, glints and glamoryl paper looks great, but are these 994 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 5: guys complete ball players? And they haven't played like that 995 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 5: for the last two years. And you talk about not 996 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 5: beating themselves. The Yankees beat themselves as well as weight 997 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 5: on the long ball and their holes up and down 998 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 5: the lineup and up and down the offense. 999 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 4: So I just think, you know, I love seeing this. 1000 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 5: The teams that we're talking about are teams that play 1001 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 5: complete baseball. 1002 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 1: The development side AJ is interesting to me. I'll point 1003 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: this note out. The Yankees have not had a player 1004 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: come up through their farm system and put up back 1005 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: to back one hundred ops plus or better years, back 1006 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: to back years of better than league average production from 1007 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: a homegrown player since Labor Torres, who debuted in twenty eighteen. 1008 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 2: A homegrown guy though, because he was traded from the Cubs, right. 1009 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: They said, come up to the system. 1010 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean he was there for like a 1011 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 2: month and then he was in the big leagues. It's 1012 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: not like he was drafted or signed by the Yankees, 1013 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 2: and so let's go before. Who's the one before before? 1014 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: That's probably Judge in my mind, I mean and yeah, 1015 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm just guessing, but it's probably Judge. 1016 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 4: I mean Cam, yeah, yeah, talking about. 1017 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1018 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 5: And what I'm when you and now is a complete player. 1019 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 5: He's one of the best players in our game. But 1020 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 5: a lot of players are chasing Aaron Judge and it's 1021 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 5: making those players incomplete because Aaron Judge is a special 1022 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 5: type of player. You understand what I'm saying. So it's like, 1023 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 5: this is no shout out, this is no Aaron Judge 1024 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 5: is arguably the best player in the game. 1025 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,479 Speaker 4: You can argue that, and that's my and that's my guy. 1026 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is a lot of players need 1027 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 5: to understand like maybe what Judge does and he has 1028 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 5: the ability to hit for power, hit for average, but 1029 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 5: what he does well may not be what you do well, right, 1030 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 5: And I think you getting so many organizations chasing that 1031 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 5: type of production instead of chasing what guys do well right. 1032 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 5: So you know, it may work at lower levels, but 1033 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 5: when you get to the big leagues, that starts to 1034 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 5: get exposed, and those guys are you know, pushed out 1035 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 5: the game very quickly. So I just think you're seeing 1036 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 5: those organizations like the Brewers go get guys who say, yeah, 1037 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 5: you may have that type of power, but hey, how 1038 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 5: about we go for like, you know, two fifteen this year, 1039 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,959 Speaker 5: and let's hit fryigh average and let's score ninety runs 1040 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 5: and let's save a bunch of runs. Like let's promote 1041 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 5: that complete ballplayer again instead of just the ops guy. 1042 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 5: So again, I think people get get it twisted when 1043 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 5: I say guys like Aaron Judge, I just mean, you know, 1044 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 5: he is a complete player, but figure out who you 1045 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 5: are as a baseball player. And I think we don't 1046 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 5: do enough of that. And I think the Yankees have 1047 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 5: a lot of that even when you watch them. Guys 1048 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 5: who should be trying to get on base, a lot 1049 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 5: of half line and a lot you know, swinging for 1050 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 5: the fences and not getting on base and not spilling 1051 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 5: and not creating have it with their athleticism. So that's 1052 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 5: what I mean when I say that I don't by 1053 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 5: no means any shots at Aaron Judge. 1054 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm with you guys here. I mean the 1055 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: Boonie attack is ridiculous. I mean We've talked about it 1056 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: all year. Okay, there's a front office that puts the 1057 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: team together, and there's an organization that develops the players. 1058 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Boone ain't helping the bad throw you know that 1059 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: slips out of the hand over there, and most of 1060 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,240 Speaker 1: the dumb stuff too. Aaron Boone when he played, doesn't 1061 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: make the play that Jash Chisholm does. And I guess, yeah, 1062 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: the most you can do, J said, is sit him 1063 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: for a game or two and then you're missing that 1064 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: bat and then they're already screwed as it is with 1065 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: the way that they're constructing the roster. I mean, John 1066 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: Carlos Santon playing in the outfield for a team that's 1067 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: barely in a wild card and it's mid August. Yeah, 1068 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: that's not fun. So lastly, for me on this one, 1069 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: there's not really much in terms of reinforcement. So it 1070 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: is what it is, like AJ and Cam said, Judge's back, 1071 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: hopefully can play in the field tune. They're missing Ryan 1072 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: Yarborough and Fernando Cruz. That's really all I have of 1073 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: guys this year that are going to come back. You know, 1074 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: Cole's next year years after that, and you know they 1075 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: cut strowmen. It's not like they're waiting for some some 1076 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: some night and shining armor like the Dodgers have been doing. 1077 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: They keep getting all these guys coming back that have 1078 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: been hurt. The Yankees don't have that. So it is 1079 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: what it is. 1080 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 4: We'll see what happens and what do they do with 1081 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 4: What do they do with with Spencer Jones. He's just 1082 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 4: hit his the thirtieth homer. I mean, what are they doing? 1083 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 4: I'm just leading down in the rest of the season. 1084 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 2: AJ they have to maybe Umber Maybe where's. 1085 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 4: He gonna call them up? 1086 00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: They where outfield four. I don't I don't want John 1087 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: Carlos Stanton playing one minute in the outfield. 1088 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 4: You gotta, okay, I don't give it back. 1089 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: He's not playing the You're gonna have. 1090 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 4: To put him in center. 1091 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 5: You if you did it, you have to put him 1092 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 5: in center and Grisham would lose those at bats. 1093 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 4: And he's been great for the Yankees. I get it, 1094 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 4: But is her is he your future plans? 1095 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 5: It would have to be like because he's been playing 1096 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 5: center field, that he would have to be you know, 1097 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 5: he probably. 1098 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 4: Played center field. He's been playing center field, you know, 1099 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 4: in the minors. 1100 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 5: It would have to be uh, you know him as center, 1101 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 5: Dominguez Judge or Stanton for now, and I mean, I'm. 1102 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 2: Just doing Bellinger. What are you doing Bellinger? 1103 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 4: They put him at first? 1104 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you could play Bellinger more at first 1105 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: because here's gold Smith shouldn't be playing against right handed 1106 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: pitching anymore. I'm sorry, hot take, but he has not 1107 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: hit right handed pitching the whole year. Haven't been a 1108 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: left he smasher just like you guy, and. 1109 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 4: Let bear Rice catch. Yeah, and then no, no, no, 1110 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 4: I want to say that maybe some pitch hit at bats. 1111 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 4: He I mean, hold up, I don't know. 1112 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: You've been playing first every day right now? Aj have 1113 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 1: you seen Goldi's numbers against right hand to pitching this year? 1114 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 2: You're okay, so you're gonna platoon Bellinger and gold Schmid 1115 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 2: at first? Nor where's uh did j c Escara? I mean, 1116 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 2: the problem is the roster is not. The roster is not. 1117 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: There's no room for Spencer Jones right now, as to 1118 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 2: wait until next year. I think Grisham's a free agent. Sorry, 1119 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 2: but if they think Spencer Jones, then you moved to 1120 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 2: Minga as the center. But maybe Jones and left have 1121 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: a healthy air and judge and right, sorry, see you 1122 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 2: next year. Spencer, maybe come up in September and try 1123 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 2: to hit some pitch at Homers. 1124 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 5: That's if any If anything, the move probably would have 1125 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 5: been to try to trade Grisham why he's been swinging 1126 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,959 Speaker 5: it and that that would have been the only probably. Yeah, 1127 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 5: but you're right because you can't take Bally. Blly's been 1128 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 5: great for the Yankees this year. 1129 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: Say it ain't so mo. Did you guys see this 1130 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:59,280 Speaker 1: old timers day Marion or Riveratory's achilles sucks? 1131 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 2: Did you do a play in the outfield? 1132 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 1: What over the weekend? 1133 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he was playing right field. 1134 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: Remember, it had flashbacks to me of of when he 1135 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 1: what did he tears? It was his knee, yeah, dragging? Yeah, 1136 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 1: when he. 1137 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 2: Got a hit off Andy Pettitt. Though he did get 1138 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 2: a hit off Andy Pettitt, so he has brain ards. 1139 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't know if you all 1140 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 2: have seen the Johnny Damon picture to lay off my god, Johnny, Okay, 1141 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: this is a bad picture. He doesn't look that bad 1142 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 2: in person. 1143 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 3: I've seen them all. 1144 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: Right, let's lay off because on Twitter I feel like 1145 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: let's lay off Johnny. 1146 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, how many people on Twitter are criticizing an 1147 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: appearance and have no business doing that. Okay, well let's 1148 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: let's go there for a moment. But you know, someone's 1149 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: look yeah, and I'm with you, Agent, I've seen twenty too. 1150 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: He looks great. But old timer's day, Savannah Bananas. We've 1151 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: had some significant injuries, buddy, Sean Casey, what was that? 1152 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 4: Was that his his hand hamstring and he tore it 1153 00:50:59,560 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 4: off the. 1154 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: B what's going on here? Guys? We got to stretch 1155 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: more before games where it's just you know, father time 1156 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: you get old, you can't you can't run around like 1157 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: you used to. But those are baddest. 1158 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: First of all, Sean Casey, you're never fast, dude, What 1159 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: are you doing? 1160 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 3: Like? 1161 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 2: Trust me, if I ever get to play for the Bananas, 1162 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 2: I ain't running full speed. Okay, let's just establish that 1163 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 2: it's gonna be about half a quarter of a speed. 1164 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 2: It's just gonna be enough to give me to first 1165 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 2: base if I lucky enough to hit the ball. Okay, 1166 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 2: so what are we doing? Like? Let's I mean, Kip 1167 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 2: played for the Bananas. I guarantee you when he had 1168 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 2: a heat run full speed, you get a little adrenaline, 1169 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: You think you're fast. Case was never fast. I saw 1170 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 2: Case get thrown out at first by the left fielder. 1171 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 2: Okay on a single that Case, let's slow our roll down. Okay, 1172 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 2: I love you, but you're not fast. I'm not fast. 1173 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: I've never seen so much controversy from the Yankees old 1174 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: Timers game all the New York radio. I think it 1175 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: was Boomer sizem was going after Jeter like, oh, his 1176 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: excuse for not being there is not legit. I'm like, 1177 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 1: shut up, he doesn't have to go. Just just it's ridiculous. 1178 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: Too much quickie hot coinner time. I just wanted to 1179 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: remind everyone about a week and a half ago AJ 1180 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: during our trade deadline show, that the Phillies also picked 1181 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: up David Robertson. That is a pick up around that 1182 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: time period. I count that when I was grading what 1183 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: they did, and if he looks like he did last year, 1184 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be special. So we can throw this 1185 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: tweet up. This is Paul. How do we say the 1186 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: last name? Casell I can't see Cassette Cassella covers the 1187 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: team for MLB, said, David Robertson joins a Phillies bullpen. 1188 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: This was posted over the Weekend with Doran subt era, 1189 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: Strom low two Zra since July, Kirkering sub two era, 1190 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 1: Ray since May, Tanner Banks last twenty appearances sub two era. 1191 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 1: So of course there's a little cherry picking in terms 1192 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: of statistics, but the quote at the bottom I think 1193 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: stands out. It's changed over a really short period of time. 1194 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: And AJ talked about at the top of the show, 1195 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: but this looks like an October bullpen that can hang. 1196 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: Now it's not the Padres bullpen, but this looks like 1197 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: one of the better bullpens in terms of the circle 1198 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: of trust and having five guys that they really like. 1199 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,439 Speaker 2: No, listen, they have a solid bullpen. They have a 1200 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 2: really good bullpen. I think the numbers prove it. The 1201 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 2: big thing, the big key for me here is Rob 1202 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 2: Thompson knows it. He knows how to use them, and 1203 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 2: he knows how to put guys in positions to succeed 1204 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 2: in kirk Ring and that didn't even that, that doesn't 1205 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 2: even include Matt Strom, who was an All Star for 1206 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 2: him last year and is a key guy for them 1207 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 2: down the stretch. So I think Tanner Banks has been unbelievable. 1208 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: He pitched in the game that I did on Saturday 1209 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 2: in a close game. Or strom is there on their sorry, 1210 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 2: Duran came in and closed it out. So listen. I 1211 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 2: think their bullpen is good. I think their starters are good, 1212 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 2: their lineup is good. This is a dangerous team in 1213 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 2: the postseason. And give Dave Dombrowski credit for going out 1214 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 2: and fixing the needs that he had. 1215 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,479 Speaker 1: Let's finish with the attendance that came out. We didn't 1216 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: get to this on Friday. Jim Bowden posted about it. 1217 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: You know, it actually had a lot of controversy to it. 1218 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: So MLB posts like the average attendance numbers, right cam. 1219 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: The thing that puss some fans off is that, you know, 1220 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: the Dodgers are always leading. Well, the Dodgers are a 1221 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: good business right now, but they're park holds more than 1222 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: say a San Diego does you know? So Obviously, the 1223 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 1: Padres Dodgers' rivalries is hot in any form, and the Padres, 1224 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,720 Speaker 1: as Aja always jokes, they keep setting their attendance records 1225 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 1: like a few more standing room only spots, but they're 1226 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: not going to beat the Dodgers no matter what. In 1227 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,720 Speaker 1: this category. The ballpark's not as. 1228 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 4: Big, no, So what's the question here. I'm just mean, people. 1229 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: Are just like they should measure this differently because Padres 1230 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: fans feel like they're not getting enough credit for how 1231 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: much they're showing up. They're like, we can't fill the 1232 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,799 Speaker 1: park anymore, Like we're not creating a bigger park. So 1233 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: they're like, maybe you should show it by sellouts or 1234 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: by percentage of the park filled. Whatever. I don't know. 1235 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 5: It's just just supporting your team and they're winning. 1236 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 4: Okay, who cares? Be happy? Treat don't serve? 1237 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean in the same realm, we can show that again. 1238 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 2: So hold, So let's just look at where the Rockies 1239 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 2: attendance is. This is why the owners don't care. Show 1240 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 2: that a board again. Sixteen the Rockies almost thirty thousand 1241 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 2: fans a game. That's why they don't think, like, we're 1242 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 2: doing fine. Guys, what are you talking about. We have 1243 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 2: thirty wins so far this year. Why does it matter 1244 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 2: we're still averaging thirty thousand fans a game. 1245 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: They're had a playoff team, two guys. They're ahead of 1246 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: the Tigers, they're ahead of the Mariners. Mariners actually had 1247 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: their first sellout of the year on Saturday night, and 1248 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: that was Ichi Row for his retirement ceremony, So they've 1249 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: been filling it up much more lately. But fans were 1250 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: pissed the last couple of years, really, and I've seen it. 1251 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure I've got a contingent of Mariners fans that 1252 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 1: come after me, even though I've been the highest person 1253 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: on this team, on this show for the past few years. 1254 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: AJ makes fun of me for it, and now, of 1255 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: course I'm a Mariner's hater because I'm not giving them 1256 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: enough flow. But as far as attendance goes, CAM there 1257 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: were a ton of people on social media the last 1258 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,399 Speaker 1: couple of years that said I am freaking done. Went 1259 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 1: through a rebuild owner said screw you to the front office, 1260 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: I'm cutting payroll to POTOO had to deal with that. 1261 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: Still has overcoming for this year, and they gave him 1262 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: some leeway this year. So look, surprise, surprise, second half 1263 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,280 Speaker 1: of the season here, trade deadline passes and the place 1264 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: is filling up. But before that time period, I think 1265 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: some fans were kind of like, you know what, you 1266 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care. 1267 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 5: I played there during some of those times. I'm sure 1268 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 5: AJ did as well. 1269 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 4: I'm sure AJ played that time when it was packed 1270 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,439 Speaker 4: when it was locked and loaded, big names. 1271 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 5: But I also came through there when it was a 1272 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 5: time where you come out as an opposing player and 1273 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 5: you love playing there, and it's like yep, yep, nobody 1274 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 5: here today, Like here we go, you know what I mean? 1275 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 5: So again, and I look at it the same way 1276 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,800 Speaker 5: you talk about Detroit, and you look at Detroit, that 1277 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 5: list as well, A little disappointing, A little disappointing that 1278 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 5: you know, when you look at where they came from, 1279 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 5: talk about eighty four, like, let's get out of support 1280 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 5: these guys man like they're doing something special right now. 1281 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 2: They are. Here's the other thing that's noticeable about this 1282 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 2: this list of attendance. Yea, the Cardinals are eighteenth, behind, 1283 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 2: behind the Rockies, behind the Rockies, behind the Brewers, behind 1284 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks, Angels. Thirty two thousand a game. Again, Rdy 1285 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 2: Maraino's going I get thirty two thousand a game? What 1286 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 2: do I need to make it better? 1287 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 4: For? 1288 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 2: Right? But the Cardinals eighteenth baseball haven't what happened? What 1289 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 2: happened Saint Louis. 1290 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: I have a theory here. So Cardinals fans have a 1291 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: little bit of a similar vibe to the Mariners fans 1292 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: before this all happened, right this year, where Cardinals fans 1293 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: are like, well, bad team, you're not putting enough into it. 1294 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: So my thing aja is Cardinals fans are great, right, 1295 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: they'll cheer you all that, but let's not act like 1296 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,919 Speaker 1: they're totally different. I mean, they want to go see 1297 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,959 Speaker 1: a good team and if they're and they've been showing 1298 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: up for years because they're almost always competitive, but they 1299 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: haven't been for the last couple of years. They're not 1300 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 1: a World Series contender, so they don't show up. That's 1301 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 1: called a human being. 1302 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 5: And I also call cap about the Angels attended mess 1303 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 5: yet right, stop it cut it out. 1304 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 1: A lot of paid, not a lot of showing up. 1305 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 4: There you go, there, you go, exactly. That's forgot. That's 1306 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 4: a real thing. 1307 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is paid though, let's not forget this 1308 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 2: is paid. 1309 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is paid. 1310 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: I do want to point that out to it's just 1311 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: paid different from what you see at the ballpark sometimes. Anyway, 1312 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: good show, good heat today, see everyone tomorrow. 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