WEBVTT - The Budget is a Weapon and We’re the Target 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.760 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:05.000 Reezon Choice Media. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.200 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, well, come, welcome. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:08.640 Welcome home. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:09.000 Y'all. 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.840 This is episode eighty six of Native Lampod, where we 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.800 give you our breakdown of all things politics and culture. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.279 We have a lot going on in the world right now. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.120 I'm with my co host Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gilliam. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.120 I'm Angela Raie. Y'all, what do you want to talk 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:22.640 about today? 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.240 Well, as you said, Angela, there is a lot going 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:31.120 on in the world in the news today. Budget budget, budget, budget, 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:32.000 budget is top. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:32.920 Of mind from you right now. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:39.320 And I'm also interested in us possibly weighing into this big, big, 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.080 big big verdict that came down this week. Maybe we can, 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.839 at least amongst the three of us, hope our listeners 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.800 sort of navigate this strange land we're in. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.199 The verdict you're referencing, of course, is the verdict in 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.920 the Sean Puffy Colmes trial that came down on Wednesday. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.680 So definitely will join you there. But what I'm most 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.680 interested in talking about is our viewer questions, because we 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.160 have a few viewer questions this week and we've asked 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.280 you how to submit your questions, and I just want 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.280 to thank you for taking the time to submit them. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:10.120 So we want to get to those. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.440 And I want to just highlight briefly, or maybe it's 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.880 a low light from a low life something that your 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:21.400 president said about how he intends to handle United States 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:26.880 citizens who have committed crimes. Maybe maybe if they've committed crimes. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.600 So we'll get into all of that and much more. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:33.080 Welcome home, y'all. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.240 My name is doctor Charity O. Yettojee. I'm a hematologist 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.120 and researcher focused on improving care for people with sickle 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.800 cell disease. I received a notice on June sixteenth, twenty 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.399 twenty five that mikey award a five year, seven hundred 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.160 and fifty thousand dollars federal NIH grant to improve care 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.880 for people with sickle cell disease as they age was 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.400 suddenly and unjustly terminated despite strong scientific evidence and early 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:01.240 proven results. Determination notice stated that research with equity objectives 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.200 does nothing to expand our knowledge of living systems and 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.880 our quote unquote lower turn on investment and don't enhance health, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:12.120 and also are harmful to Americans. These statements are inaccurate 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.800 and disrespectful for so many reasons. Sickle cell disease is 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.600 a painful, life limiting genetic disorder that can be inherited 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.920 by people of all racial and ethnic backgrounds around the world. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.520 Sickle cell disease primarily affects black people in the United States. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.040 My research was focused on developing the first and only 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.680 functional assessment in the first and only exercise program tailored 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.720 to the unique needs of older adose fiscal soul disease 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.160 called sickle FIT. Ending this project not only silences promising 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.520 solutions for a neglected group of patients, but also sends 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.280 a devastating message to future researchers that even life changing, 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:51.040 evidence based science can be discarded without cause. My question 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.480 is what can be done to overcome these grant terminations 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.160 and how do researchers doing impactful work for underserved populations 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:58.360 find a way forward? 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.640 Thank you, you know. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:05.480 The frustrating part about this lady's is the there's already 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:10.800 not enough research done on the diseases that have unique 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:15.360 impact on our community. I'm reflecting on the doctor's question, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.760 which had so many I'm the only I'm the first 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.560 and only you know researching in this and will provide 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.520 the you know, the first and only to this, and 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:29.280 for that to be just ceremoniously and quite quite quite 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:35.280 harmfully not factually dismantled. It's crazy. As she read some 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.440 of the words from the letter that she received, I 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.000 was thinking, what AI bought from, you know, from Donald 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.640 Trump's government produced this letter as as as filled with 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.120 inaccuracies as it was, and I can only imagine the 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:52.200 doctor's frustration. I will just say, and and Angela, you 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:57.200 probably have a more direct, maybe way forward for her here. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:02.080 But these were dollars that were already appropriated by the Congress. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.520 Remember the Congress is the appropriator in our system of government, 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.160 signed into law by a president. These are dollars that 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.720 were already determined to where they were supposed to go. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.520 The government just needed to write the check, send the 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.159 direct deposit, whatever it is that they do, and Donald 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.560 Trump then held that up. I know that a number 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.400 of agencies that have been impacted financially by some of 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.120 these early decisions have decided to go to court and 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:31.359 sue to have that money come through for them. I 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.920 don't know if that's the route for the doctor or 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:39.119 if there are other suits that she can potentially join onto. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.479 But I believe that there are still grounds here for 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.240 litigation and for the third branch of government to help 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.960 make some sense of this thing. That how does a 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.520 budget get passed, signed into law, appropriations made, and the 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.039 check gets stopped by Donald Trump and never delivered for 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.320 the life saving and groundbreaking research that it was intended. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.080 This administration is doing that all the time. There was 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.039 a release that came out this week that said that 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.400 the Department of Education withheld school funding to the tune 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.200 of six point nine billion dollars that was already allocated 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.080 and supposed to be sent from the Department of Education, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.520 which you all know now is you know, in the 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.720 works of being dismantled. And I think what's most important is, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.719 as we're on this podcast, the Congressional Black Caucus is 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:33.040 holding the floor through a UC process trying to get 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.120 unanimous consent. Is what you see stand for for a 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.719 democratic amendment on Donald Trump's budget, which he's named the 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.960 Big Beautiful Bill. We've called it the Big Ugly Bill, 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.919 We've called it Trump's Bad BBL. All of the things. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:49.720 We've had a marathon since Monday at six pm Eastern 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:54.160 deconstructing this bill that causes great harm. And what we 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.920 need to understand is that one point three trillion dollars 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:04.400 is going to be reallocated from Medicaid and SNAP in 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.200 other programs to support people who are considered the least 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.320 of these if we are to use biblical terms, and 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:17.279 frankly just moved over transferred to the wealthiest Americans among us, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.040 the top twenty percent. And I think that when you 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:24.080 consider that, when you can no, it's actually people with 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:25.960 less money than that. But when you look at the 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.560 gap between the folks who are in six figures and 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.360 in the bottom half of that twenty percent and the 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.120 folks who are in the lower rung of the economy 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.360 making under thirty thousand dollars a year, the bottom twenty percent, 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.160 it is astounding. And the gap between the rich import 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.920 is only going to be exacerbated by what they're doing 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.039 in this bill. And I think the worst thing is, 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.240 you know, we keep giving people these high hopes that 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:50.840 we're going to be able to change their minds, that 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.279 we're going to be able to appeal to the inner 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.799 moral compass of Senator so and so yesterday or sorry, 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.880 earlier this week. It was Lisa Murkowski, who we knew 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.440 was not going to pivot. And so we keep telling 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.240 people if you apply pressure, if you apply pressure, they 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.440 will do the right thing. Will they will? 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:08.640 They? 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.240 There's a list of twenty something members in the House 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.880 of Representatives who people have been asked to call. And 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.880 I'm at the point right now where I am tired 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.560 of asking people to take all of their good intention 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.880 attention efforts and put them into a feudal fight for 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.080 people who only care about doing what is right for 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.400 the people who write them campaign contributions and to appease 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.360 Nebuca Nezer who is Donald Trump. They don't care about 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.840 anybody else. And I will rather us be very clear 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.240 eyed about what we do have. So we've spent just 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.760 as much time on this marathon educating about the harmful 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.720 impacts of this bill. Do you know how many people 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.880 in this country don't even know this is happening? And 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.960 it is the most harmful legislation that will be passed 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:59.440 in our in modern history, in modern history. So we 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.280 got to spend just as much. But what does that mean? 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.360 Like when we use these terms, people don't know what 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.280 the largest transfer of wealth means. It means they are 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:13.280 literally stealing money from programs that will pay doctors so 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.600 that your kid who has asthma can be seen even 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.600 if you are not on Medicaid. Once the accounts are 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.760 we had doctors on talking about this. Once they fiddle 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.080 with those accounts and there's no money at this community 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.640 health center in Jackson, Mississippi or wherever, and there's no 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.480 Medicaid to support that, there's nothing to close that gap. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.760 It shuts down, and we have to be honest with 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.240 about that. So instead of all of your efforts being 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.400 in call your member, which you still should, ask this 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.720 member of Congress to change their minds, soften their arts. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.520 You still should. Maybe the most vulnerable of the GOP 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.240 can find some commonality with the most vulnerable Americans. But 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.560 if you can't, what is the community resource that already 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.000 exists that we can tell people about. 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:08.840 So the direct advice for the question would be litigation, litigation, litigation, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:13.200 because I think we're just at a place where folks 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.920 are exhausting every available option to them to see the 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.640 right thing happen. And the truth is is that if 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.800 we had a Congress that was willing to stand up 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.560 for its own power, for its own position for its 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.800 own voice. On behalf of the six hundred thousand plus 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.959 people each member of Congress represents across this country, we 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:38.520 wouldn't have an issue here. Unfortunately, we have feckless members 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.040 of the Republican Party who I don't care what the 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:47.280 outlet is. I have watched the media be completely derelictive 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.800 late as it has described this budget, giving people the 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:55.360 false hopes that Senator such and such is going to 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.520 come in to save the day because the president has 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.120 hardliners on the right who are not going to be 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.120 for adding this much debt to the to the debt 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.880 limit of the country. Not true. I wish that instead 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.200 of saying that there will hold out Republicans, that they 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.040 would say that there are Republicans who consider themselves holdout, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:20.480 but in keeping with the last ten votes, they have 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:25.480 caved every single time they have held themselves out there 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.600 as being responsive to the citizens that they represent. They're 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.280 fully aware that rural hospitals in the states that they 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:38.200 represent are going to shudder, impacting all people. Right, the 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.599 majority of this country does not live in highly populated, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:46.000 urbanized cities. They don't The majority of folks are spread 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.320 out all over this vast land, many of them not 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.960 with the access to the kinds of tools, resources and 0:10:56.120 --> 0:11:01.240 human resources in the form of doctors, nurses, specialists that 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.240 they need access to. And if you tell them to 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.520 reach those folks over the internet through telemedicine, you're gonna 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.439 have to go further to inspect whether or not there 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.920 is a strong enough signal of internet in the communities 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.760 that they live to get them in touch with a 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.720 doctor where a seamless conversation can take place. The fallout 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.920 from this build is going to be tremendous, Angela, and 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.040 I appreciate you putting, you know again, relight on this. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.320 I do think that pressure does burst pipes. I think 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.160 we have to apply pressure, and pressure comes in many forms. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.360 But more than anything, what these members of Congress are 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.520 the math that they are doing as they're calculating Donald 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:47.800 Trump and his how do you say, get back evil 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:52.120 spirit to the six to eight hundred thousand of you 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:56.360 who live in their district, and they are choosing the 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.920 voice of this one man over all six to eight 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.720 hundred thousand of you, and he's saying that this voice 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.440 is much more important to me and my future as 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.040 an elected official than all of y'all combined, who send 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.280 me to Washington in the first place. That's the method 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.920 they're doing, and we all ought to be offended and 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.600 ashamed that we have members of Congress there representing us 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.920 who have no interest in taking our voices to the 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.559 floor of the Congress to the will of the Congress, 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.760 or by God, representing that voice to their vote. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:34.400 Really quick, Andrew, I want to just respond to two things. Factually, 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.480 we have members of Congress who don't have the majority 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.040 and have limited tools, especially on the House side, and 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.559 the tools they have they are using or have used 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:49.400 the Magic Minute with Hakim Jeffrey, Yes, unanimous consent, hold up, Yeah, yeah, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.040 very very much so in the minority, even though they 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.960 might have the moral majority. But I wanted to say 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.080 two things. The first was I just wanted to apologize 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.680 to you. I think that I have been so much 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.760 in a bubble around the State of the People and 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.319 the Power tour that and it was a good, safe, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:14.520 feel good bubble, you know, completely dissociated with what is happening, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.720 you know, from this mad man like just like was 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.120 able to just get out and see how many tools 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:25.600 we have for our care of ourselves. When you kept 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.440 bringing up the budget for weeks, that it is something 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:29.839 that we need to talk about, that it is something 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.960 we need to talk about. I just had no interest, 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.680 you know, and I and I think now in the 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.600 eleventh hour, in part because I'm like, he's gonna he's 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.880 breaking all the rules and the laws anyway, So like 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.880 what difference does it make? And still honestly feel a 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.959 little of that, but I know we have a collective 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.560 obligation to tell our people what is on the line, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.320 and I don't know if some of it is holdover 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.400 from November, just feeling like, well, like, what what use 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.280 is it to tell people what to do if they're 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.480 not going to do it. If they call their member 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.240 of Congress and the member of Congress has a phone 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.520 on D and D they literally have their phones on 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.679 do that to get to their members, they have to 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.760 send a social post. It is a dere election of 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:16.440 duty without absolute dere election of duty. And so I 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.800 did want to apologize because I know the public servant 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.920 in you would still have us to do the right thing, 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:24.920 which we should do. And so I don't want to 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.120 speak for Tip, but I want to say I apologize 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.720 because I think that we should have given this time, 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.120 probably every week, even if it's just to highlight a 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.760 portion of the bill, and I'll say, like, as long 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.680 as I have any say in it, I will yield 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.640 from now on, even when I am in a bubble 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.480 and I'm asking you to please take full permission to say, sis, 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.280 I think you're in above on this, we're missing it, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:47.840 and to sell on the alarm. So I just want 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:48.600 to pologize. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:53.040 I don't not necessary because every piece of our labor, 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.280 from all of us, and the listeners who are choosing 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.960 to touch and engage even to take care during this moment, 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:05.040 are are contributing to what we have to do to sustain. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.920 And so what you were doing with the tour was 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:14.880 incredibly important to our bigger long term structure of how 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.920 do we wake up our communities to know that the 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.720 power of the people is greater than the people in power. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.080 That this has to start at that basic of a 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.840 level in order for us to to to to suspend 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.000 with that belief that what is it all for. He's 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.920 gonna do what he's gonna do anyway, because the truth 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.200 is this pressure does burst pipes, and there's a there 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.480 gonna be some accountability on his side, but don't let 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.880 it be us checking out. That is the permission structure 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.080 for him doing whatever it is that he want to do. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.920 We're always gonna check in, tap in to make sure 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.160 that if you're gonna get there, brother, you're gonna burn 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.280 down every bush, every tree, every limb, run over, every house, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.000 every person to get there. Do you want that record? 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:00.760 All? 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:00.960 Right? 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.800 Yeah? We have so much more to get into on 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.160 the budget. But as you know, if it don't make dollars, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.800 it don't make sense. We gotta pay some bills. 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.560 Yeah, I just want to say quickly Angelus said, do 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.200 you want to speak for me? But like Angelus said lastly, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.600 Angelus speaks for me even when we disagree. So I 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:34.600 go those thoughts. I just you know your your former boss, ANGELA. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:40.720 Congressman Bennie Thompson has been on rural hospitals UH legislation, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.880 supporting rural hospitals for decades, for a really long time. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:50.520 And we're looking at losing over three hundred and despite 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.760 the media constantly saying, you know, rule the white is 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.080 silent because they often you know, when they go out 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.560 and talk to rule folks, they don't often look like us. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.960 But a significant portion of Black people live in rural areas. Absolutely, 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.520 so I think this idea that people are a bit 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.360 disengaged and they don't know this is happening. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.160 This will literally cost lives. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.400 Rural hospitals have I think twenty five acute care beds, 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.879 so this means when there's no bed for someone, they 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.840 don't have space to be there. If they have to 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.520 get airlifted, they may not have the resources to be there. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.440 In terms of reimbursement, they're going to have limited reimbursement 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.760 for the hospitals that do remain open. And just with 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.520 respect to the budget, you know, I'm at a bit 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:40.520 of a disadvantage here because even this conversation now it's meaty, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:46.919 it's information. I hope that people got information from what 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:51.960 Angela and Andrew shared. I don't know that people tune 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.720 into things like this. You know, if we're going through 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.560 the budget and talking about it, for me, that's something 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.760 I want to listen to. I think you do have 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.960 to dangle sometimes the salacious in front of people. You 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.199 have to make it so simple. And in all of 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:11.879 our bubbles, I think there is. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:14.560 A disconnect. 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.480 Sometimes we all are in different bubbles, but there is 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.199 a disconnect, and I don't want to like shit on 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.040 people who are like I didn't even know the big 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.639 bill was happening, But sometimes I do have a frustration. 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.680 I would argue most of the country has no idea 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:30.560 that this. 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:31.159 Bill that's what. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.040 Yes, they have no idea and they're not tuning in, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.480 and so it's like, how do you find that balance 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.439 of giving you know, I mean, news by definition is 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.520 informing people of what they need to know and talking 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.760 about what they want to know. So striking that balance, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.680 I think the journalism industry and large, as y'all hear 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.320 me talk about, has failed because even when I heard 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.720 on all the networks this week talking about it, they're 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.360 playing this these political games. So you get a Republican 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.280 on and you or you get a Democrat on and 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.639 you're like, you know, what impact do you think this 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.159 will have? Are you trying to play this up to 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:13.959 win mid terms? Are you guys talking attacking Vice President 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.560 j d Vance because you think he's gonna run and 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.040 you're trying to And it's like, who gives a shit? 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.600 This is why people don't know what's going on, because 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.840 we're trafficking in this kind of BS. I wanted to 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.720 say that about the disconnect because if you guys don't mind, 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:32.159 I want to get to this viewer question, who is 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:33.720 kind of I'm going to relate it back to the 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.840 bill and Antel I'm sure you can find a way 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.040 to relate it back to the bill because people have 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:40.919 some smoke for me and Angela and I. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.600 Before we get to the viewer question, I just I 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.960 want to say, Tiff, I agree with you. This Republican 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.360 versus Democrat thing on air is irresponsible, but they are 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:57.640 modeling what they're seeing in Congress. Literally, Lindsey Graham, who's 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.680 the chair of the Budget Committee, put out a statement 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.320 lying to people about the fact that this would expand 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.720 access to Medicaid and medicare that it, you know, hyping 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.800 up these these budget cuts and how it's going to 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:16.280 help America's economy and working families. Just blatant lies, to 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.840 the point where Susan Collins put out her own statement 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.480 seeing what it actually did. They're indirect conflict, so you 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.720 don't even have to leave their party to get an 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:25.920 alternative story. The other thing I was going to say 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.359 is you said that we need to make it more salacious, 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:29.680 and I. 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.440 Was to say maybe, but that's what worked. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.119 Ye what gets people? That's true? Okay, I got you 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.520 Star didn't mean to misquote. So the salations is what 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.000 gets people to pay attention. My highest hope is and 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:42.800 it's one of the things we things we've been doing 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.320 throughout the marathon, which is still going by the time 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.000 we record this podcast. We have asked people to lead 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:53.440 with their who why are you doing this, Who are 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.359 you doing it for? Where do they live? What is 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.879 their story? Mine was my mom. We were sitting at 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.080 my mom just went back to chemo. We went and 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.000 I said, Mommy, would you mind being on camera? I 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.760 want people to see when Medicare is even just your 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:10.960 supplemental insurance, who this impacts, you know, it impacts a 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:16.879 widespread diverse, you know, economically read from a region. We 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.479 are in Seattle at the best cancer hospital and one 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.119 of the best cancer hospitals in the country. My mom's 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.760 Medicare is going to be impacted. So I think that 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.120 it may not be this relations but it is certainly 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.639 the story, and I think that it's something that is needed. 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.320 But to move the needle to the point that Andrew 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.960 raised about pressure bursting pipes to ensure that people know 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.760 who they're accountable for. Don't let them forget the face. 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.600 Don't let them forget the face of who this will hit, 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.239 whether it's that child on CHIP, or it is that 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.840 elder on Medicare, or it is a person that may 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.639 not even poor, don't even know they're on medicaid because 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.879 medicaid is called something else in your state. Do not 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:03.360 let them forget. And so again, well Andrew can jump 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:03.800 let me. 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:05.639 Jump there really quickly and say, you talked about the 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.400 child on ship to s O. A few result ship 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.159 is the Children's Health Insurance program. A lot of children 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.280 will be impacted by that. And Angela, I hear you 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.880 saying that they're playing off what's happening in Congress, But 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.920 to me, that is the failure. Like you are letting 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.160