WEBVTT - How Sleep Paralysis Works, or The Worst Thing That Can Happen While You're Sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>should Know Frondhouse Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry is over there. So the stuff you should

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<v Speaker 1>know the podcast. Something large on my chest. It's the devil.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the devil is hey, Chuck, you okay, what happened? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You were just having what's known sleep paralysis, buddy, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>it was close to it, but my touch, my gentle touch,

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<v Speaker 1>broke you out of it. That actually sees me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding people. I was acting. That was stagecraft. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were well, we weren't debating because I was wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were talking about whether or not we had

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<v Speaker 1>done this yet we have not. Uh like I said

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<v Speaker 1>it was wrong. We've bitten around the edges of it

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<v Speaker 1>so much they feel like, yeah, I feel like if

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<v Speaker 1>you pulled every little bit of sleep paralysis out Of

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<v Speaker 1>all the episodes where we've talked at it, talked at it,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked at it, not about it, you go away

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<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis. Well, the most recent one was either Exploding

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<v Speaker 1>Head or night terrors, um, and we specifically stopped talking

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<v Speaker 1>about sleep paralysis so that we could save it for

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<v Speaker 1>the actual episode. Those are always good ones. So finally

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<v Speaker 1>here it is like we'll be on an interesting train

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<v Speaker 1>of thought and say no, no, no no, no stop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what we did too. I remember the first

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<v Speaker 1>time this came up was in trans magnetic stimulation, the

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<v Speaker 1>thinking cap one. Yeah. Well, it's pretty interesting stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been around a while. You know. UM, the word nightmare,

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<v Speaker 1>we use that to describe like bad dreams. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>incorrect usage. Nightmare was originally intended specifically to describe sleep

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<v Speaker 1>paralysis because night means night, then mar a or mayor

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<v Speaker 1>and may e r e. That extra e in there

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<v Speaker 1>really messes it up. But it's old English, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I pronounced it correctly. Or not. Neither

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<v Speaker 1>does anyone else alive, so it doesn't matter. But that

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<v Speaker 1>um that specifically means an incubus, and an incubus was

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<v Speaker 1>a type of devil, like the one that was just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on your chest, A male, a sex craze male

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<v Speaker 1>demon who would well, I'm just making assumptions here, who

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<v Speaker 1>would come to you while you were sleeping and sit

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<v Speaker 1>on your chest and maybe kill you, try to kill

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<v Speaker 1>you and you couldn't do anything about it. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm into I'm into the succubus and the incubus. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm open minded. But that's exactly right. The incubus is

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<v Speaker 1>the male version of the succubus, or the old sex

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<v Speaker 1>crazed tag that sits on your chest. So this, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of of this has been around for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. It's steeped in the supernatural, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>only just now starting to figure out what sleep paralysis is.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, it's even more interesting now that we

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<v Speaker 1>understand it a little more. Yeah, I did not know

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<v Speaker 1>the exact definition of incubus until this research, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that band even more. Yeah, I think sex

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<v Speaker 1>mail demons. I wonder if that's what they were going forth.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just like that sounds cool. No, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they knew well. I'm hats off to them for realizing that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, making a medieval era. Nod In might have

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<v Speaker 1>just thought it sounded cool. Who knows whom you're thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, I clearly know nothing about good band names.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not true. I thought you always come up with

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<v Speaker 1>good bad names. I don't know if other people agree

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<v Speaker 1>they're good to me? Has someone been No? Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's talking no, no, no I should say about that. No.

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<v Speaker 1>But my own band name is not No, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But El Cheapo we're named after a gas station. Where

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<v Speaker 1>El Cheapos are I know, in the South, like South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina and like I've seen him in Savannah coastal Southeast.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a coincidence, they're l cheap. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is a coincidence, it is, But people

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<v Speaker 1>send me pictures of El cheap out gas stations. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the light in So you're not named after a gas

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<v Speaker 1>station because then we would be x on Mobile because

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great band. Everybody loves. What have they ever done? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So, um, the the strict definition. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's not strict, but the definition we're going to give.

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<v Speaker 1>And where did you get this article? This is good?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we better shout this out. This is straight

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<v Speaker 1>out of the British Psychological Society's journal. I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>it was British it was, yeah, because they say Wildston

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Way off. Um, but it was written

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<v Speaker 1>by Julia Santamorrow and Christopher Cee French, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>they're both sleep paralysis experts. I know for sure Professor

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<v Speaker 1>French is because I also saw a video of him

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<v Speaker 1>on vimeo, UM, just basically talking about this and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a sweater on. This said expert pretty much. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So sleep paralysis how they define it, and I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a period of transient, consciously experienced paralysis, either

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<v Speaker 1>when going to sleep or waking up. And um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was under the misguided notion that it was

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<v Speaker 1>almost always in the transition of waking up. And it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's even more common when you're going uh

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<v Speaker 1>into sleep and that is the hypnagogic stage as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the hypno pompic stage coming out. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Well, I got that impression, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was wrong. I had the same impression. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably came from us each other. So have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>had sleep paralysis? No? Um, but I did want to

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<v Speaker 1>mention that I did. I told you I had an

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<v Speaker 1>exploding head syndrome experience. After we did that show, like

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<v Speaker 1>two or three nights later, it happened to me for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time ever. Yeah, I was worried about getting

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<v Speaker 1>this last night. I don't want this. Well that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad way to go about it. Yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 1>will get it in your head. We should say it's actually,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it's kind of common, right. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it depends on who you ask. I've seen everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>from a third a half of people that might experience

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<v Speaker 1>this at least once. But I think as far as

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<v Speaker 1>chronic uh, chronically, it's not nearly that common. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>something like, um, do we have stats on that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're in here somewhere something like three percent, three to

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<v Speaker 1>six percent of the general population experience what's called isolated

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<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis. And that's if you don't have an arcalepsy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the big thing I didn't realize is that

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<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis is a major symptom of narcolepsy, which we

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<v Speaker 1>should do. And that came up and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just replaced sleep paralysis as the show we gotta do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great aunt, great aunt Laura from Mississippi

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<v Speaker 1>that had an arcolepsy No really, Yeah, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to see her a lot in life. This was

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<v Speaker 1>my father's mother's sister. Um, but I remember very specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother and I go in like one time to Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi or Tupelow, I think where she lived when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like twelve, and she would do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she would nod off while talking to us and back

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<v Speaker 1>up and finish her sentence. So it was like she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even aware that she doted off. No, And um,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, I thought it was funny at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. It was a little kid, But I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more to it than that. Sure, it

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<v Speaker 1>can probably be quite dangerous, I imagine. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would guess kind of hard to come by a driver's

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<v Speaker 1>license if you are diagnosed with narcolepsy. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Laura drove. Yeah, she was one of those that probably

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have driven anyway. You know, she's like like a

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<v Speaker 1>Strickland type. You know, I don't want to drive, Come

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<v Speaker 1>pick me up. She was just like we had to

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<v Speaker 1>take the keys for my grandmother, that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>when she was drinking. No, when she was when she

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<v Speaker 1>was got to an age where she could drive safely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was she was were like, Grandma can't drive anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. In Japan they have these very prominent like

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<v Speaker 1>magnets or stickers that you put on a car. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>One's like a triangle. I can't remember what the other

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<v Speaker 1>one is, but one means kind of um, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. It's UM. One me this is a

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<v Speaker 1>new driver, like usually a teen driver, so everybody steer clear.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other means this is a very elderly driver,

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<v Speaker 1>so everybody's steer clear. I would love one of those

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<v Speaker 1>in my car. It's like, I don't understand why this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't universal. Yeah, you know, it makes perfect sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like one just to keep people away from me,

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<v Speaker 1>just to leave you alone. Yeah, you put on like, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the guy's name from Phantasm? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Angus something. Yeah, you put on a little wig like his.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little skull cap while you're driving, just to

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<v Speaker 1>really drive at home. H that was a an accidental pun.

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<v Speaker 1>Just now. I didn't catch it. I said, you put

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<v Speaker 1>it on while you're driving just to drive it home,

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<v Speaker 1>to drive the point home. Yeah, And I made a

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<v Speaker 1>really good accidental pun when we were talking about hunting

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, my dad didn't hunt. I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he wasn't he was trying to take a stand,

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<v Speaker 1>or he wasn't trying to take a stand as in

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<v Speaker 1>a deer stand. Totally miss that, all right. So the

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<v Speaker 1>deal with sleep paralysis is how you know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing it is, uh, you can open your eyes, you're conscious,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are aware that you can't you can't move,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't move your body. I mean, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>varies between severity and individual experience, but the common thing

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<v Speaker 1>is is that you can't move. You feel paralyzed. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even make a noise. It's that bad. And

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<v Speaker 1>and the problem with not being able to make a

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<v Speaker 1>noise is that it particularly sucks in instances like this

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to scream. Because most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>when you are experiencing sleep paralysis, you are in the

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<v Speaker 1>grips of terror like you wouldn't ever normally experience. You're

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<v Speaker 1>scared out of your mind. You have an impending sense

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<v Speaker 1>of death. Um. And you have all sorts of hallucinations,

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<v Speaker 1>basically of every every sense could conceivably hallucinate. Right. You

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<v Speaker 1>have auditory hallucinations where you hear something in the room

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<v Speaker 1>with you. There's I should say, there's also like a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of presence, like another thing. Yeah, there's something in

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<v Speaker 1>the room. Usually it's something that means you harm, so

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<v Speaker 1>you sentence presents. You might also hear it. You probably

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<v Speaker 1>also see it, and it can be anything from like

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<v Speaker 1>that succubus or incubus sitting on your chest, um, both

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<v Speaker 1>the things. You're getting a little kinky, right, You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're both here. I didn't think you'd find out about

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<v Speaker 1>each other. And you'll let me wake my wife. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't move right, So you're just sitting there laying

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<v Speaker 1>like this is getting weird. She's gonna be so mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh uh. And then uh, you can smell them, you

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<v Speaker 1>can taste them. There's something called gustatory hallucinations. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then also the sense of feeling like moving and um

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure on your chest, like you feel all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like you're experiencing it. Yeah, and um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>pressure is one of the big ones, like someone sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on you, uh and not allowing you to move so

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<v Speaker 1>um our own. Robert Lamb wrote an article about this

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<v Speaker 1>oner site too, not about the full thing, but about

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<v Speaker 1>like why is it? Uh, why are they demons usually?

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<v Speaker 1>And that was kind of one of my questions, that

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<v Speaker 1>why is it usually a malevolent spirit? And why isn't it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, some fantasy which is like a rod

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<v Speaker 1>saying like hey, you want to go play cats or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, that would be yours? No, okay, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>he like the most hated man on the planet now

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason? Oh? I mean he kind of went

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<v Speaker 1>his end of his career. He was not very well

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<v Speaker 1>Like why what did you do? I didn't pick up

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<v Speaker 1>on that he did a lot of steroids and lied

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<v Speaker 1>about it for years. Oh gotcha, Yeah, gotcha. He was

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<v Speaker 1>like a repeat offender that consistently was like doing steroids.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I don't know why these drug testers saying

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<v Speaker 1>I did. They're like you have a syringe in your arm, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert said. And you know, he didn't like make the

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<v Speaker 1>U up, but his research indicated that um, someone's beliefs

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<v Speaker 1>going into it might conjure up these negative connotations. And

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<v Speaker 1>when the experience itself is marked by like a pulse

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<v Speaker 1>rate increase in labored breathing sometimes and these, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>lend itself to like a good experience, right right, because

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<v Speaker 1>um so, Professor French concurs with Robert right. He's he

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, like the fear being usually a hallmark of

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<v Speaker 1>the sleep paralysis. Paralysis experience is not just you're afraid

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't move and there's something in the room

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<v Speaker 1>with you, that's part of it. But he's saying, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a migdala is also hyperactive, right then, So you're experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>fear on like its own terms. It's like its own

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<v Speaker 1>freestanding symptom that that even if like this, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it was lucky the lepre Con, you'd still be super

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that he was in the room with you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, because you're you're like that region of your

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<v Speaker 1>brain that's that's delivering these jolts of fear to you

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<v Speaker 1>is working over time. Then it becomes that bad leprechn movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I was she in that. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>never saw those I never did either. Um. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>also said speaking of movies that like your own, like

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of pop culture you're into, Like all this

0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff can play into it because they are. It's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like an extension of a dream. So, um, if

0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.200
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, agitated by like labored breathing and rapid

0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.120
<v Speaker 1>pulse rate and a nightmare, then it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be uh, you know, a rod floating in onto your

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<v Speaker 1>chick with the baseball, unless you're super scared of him,

0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.440
<v Speaker 1>then it might be. So let's take a break, man,

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll come back and talk about some of like

0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the cultural interpretations of what the heck is going on here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds good. Yeah, so Chuck, remember we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like how nightmare is like an old English term

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<v Speaker 1>for sleep paralysis. It's been around for a while and

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<v Speaker 1>there's and it's basically it seems to be universal and

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<v Speaker 1>so since it's an interpreted by the person based on

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<v Speaker 1>like what their culture believes in. Um, there's been like

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<v Speaker 1>different interpretations of sleep paralysis throughout history and cultures around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and they're pretty interesting. Yeah, and I and

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<v Speaker 1>most of them the common thread here is that ah,

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<v Speaker 1>and even in modern terms, they're described this way sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely in the olden days, it's almost always some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of supernatural thing like a witch or norwe I'm sorry.

0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Newfoundland they called it the old Hag, which is creepy

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<v Speaker 1>just hearing that. Uh. And China the ghost oppression because

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the Chinese believe that you're you're very vulnerable your

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<v Speaker 1>soul is when you're asleep. So I think that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the common thread here there all these countries. There

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<v Speaker 1>was I took an anthropology class and I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what it was talking about in general, but one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that seemed to pop up around the world

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<v Speaker 1>was something called spirit intrusion, Like when you were sleeping,

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<v Speaker 1>your spirit got up and walked around, and if like

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<v Speaker 1>the tether between your spirit and your body was severed,

0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you were like anybody could come and possess you. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big like that. That was a big

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<v Speaker 1>explanation for mental illness in cultures around the world. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was interesting that that was also an

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<v Speaker 1>explanation for um, for sleep paralysis too. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of depends on whatever the the leading ghoul

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<v Speaker 1>is in your country in region, because in Europe. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course in the fifteen hundreds through the seventeen hundreds, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be witches. You were witch ridden. Uh. That was

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<v Speaker 1>at one of the witch trials in seventy seven. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This woman testified her about her husband in bed and

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<v Speaker 1>he said he was laying there stiff, barely drawing breath,

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<v Speaker 1>and he woke up and he said, my Lord Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>helped me, Oh fiery, which is took me to Mara

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<v Speaker 1>Maros and they put six hundred weight of salt on me,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're laughing at. But if you break it down,

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<v Speaker 1>that has all the hallmarks of all the different hallucinations,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's traveling or the weight on your chest or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the all these tactics. Yeah, hallucinations like wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up into one nightmare with exclamation points. Yeah, there weren't

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<v Speaker 1>in Uh. I thought this is pretty interesting. In um St. Lucia,

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<v Speaker 1>the Caribbean island, they have a term called Cookema and

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.200
<v Speaker 1>they think that it's a little unbaptized babies who are

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<v Speaker 1>haunting the area that are that are causing sleep paralysis

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<v Speaker 1>or doing all sorts of horrible things to you while

0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you're sleeping. But you're not sleeping, we should be. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to restate this again because it's a little confusing. Yeah,

0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.000
<v Speaker 1>when you're experiencing sleep paralysis, you're laying there and your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are open, and you know that something's in the

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<v Speaker 1>room with you. Maybe it comes over and climbs on

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<v Speaker 1>your chest. When it does, you can feel its breath

0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.240
<v Speaker 1>in your face. You can smell and taste its rank breath.

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<v Speaker 1>You can feel the pressure of it laying on your chest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's staring you in the eyes, and you cannot move.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only can you not move, you can't make a

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<v Speaker 1>sound as much as you're trying to scream your head

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<v Speaker 1>off because you were scared out of your mind. And

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<v Speaker 1>this experience can last from a few seconds to I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen up to ten minutes, and from anecdotally, each second

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<v Speaker 1>of those ten minutes feels like a decade because you're

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<v Speaker 1>just so scared and it's just going on and on

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<v Speaker 1>and on. So um, it makes total sense that you

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<v Speaker 1>would say, ah, there was a spirit in my room

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<v Speaker 1>last night. Yeah, because if not, you're you think I'm

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.080
<v Speaker 1>losing my mind, right, So let's blame it on. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into some of the other reasons, but blame

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<v Speaker 1>it on something else, right, Like in in Japan kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shabari um is now they believe that it's evil

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 1>spirits messing with you. Same thing in Korea with how

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<v Speaker 1>we knew Alita, how we Nulita? Yeah, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty good pronunciation. And like we said, though, these

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<v Speaker 1>are all sort of versions of the same thing, um,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where you go, which I always find interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>like these sort of universal regional things. And then most

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<v Speaker 1>recently though the and this is where I think we

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<v Speaker 1>first came into sleep paralysis with the trans cranial me

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<v Speaker 1>that stimulation episode. Was that, um, it's to blame for

0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:10.480
<v Speaker 1>basically every UFO abduction account. Oh yeah, was that where

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it? For sure? Um, they have done

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:19.160
<v Speaker 1>studies and they found that if you, ah, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe in alien abductions, if that's part of

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.280
<v Speaker 1>your belief system, then you're more or did they do

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<v Speaker 1>the study of people that experienced sleep paralysis and all

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of them believed you know, maybe in UFOs. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they did the reverse of people who have report having

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<v Speaker 1>been abducted by UFOs they experienced sleep paralysis. Okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a higher frequency of experiencing sleep paralysis so they

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<v Speaker 1>just the people study this and they just fold their

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<v Speaker 1>arms again. Okay, right, yeah it was an alien but there,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean apparently in the UFO lore, the sleep paralysis

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<v Speaker 1>has been accounted for. So like you when you're abducted,

0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you remember being paralyzed before and after. Um, but you

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 1>they wipe your memory of the actual like abduction out,

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<v Speaker 1>but they leave the sleep paralysis. And like I remember

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<v Speaker 1>an X files. I think when Fox Moulder's sister was taken,

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<v Speaker 1>like she was levitated off the bed and like just

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<v Speaker 1>stiff as a board, floats out the window. That's classic

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis symptoms where you can't move and yet you

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<v Speaker 1>still feel like you're floating and you're moving your levitating,

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.240
<v Speaker 1>or that there's six hundredweight of salt being put on

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:32.439
<v Speaker 1>your chest. Um, I love salt, so that might not

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.159
<v Speaker 1>be a bad thing. He'd be like, this is delicious

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and terrifying. It up towards my tongue, that that'd be

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<v Speaker 1>the part that was making you crazy. I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Uh. They say it usually occurs when you

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<v Speaker 1>are lying on your back in bed, although it can

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.679
<v Speaker 1>occur in any position at all. Because one of the

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.720
<v Speaker 1>accounts this article is school because they have first hand accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the guys was laying on his stomach and

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<v Speaker 1>he felt the de and the incubus I think on

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<v Speaker 1>his back um or maybe it was a succubus. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure. Um. And you can break it. Sometimes it

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:14.400
<v Speaker 1>happens on its own. Sometimes, Uh, you can break it

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 1>on your own on purpose, they recommend, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea. I think they recommend to try and

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<v Speaker 1>like instead of saying I gotta get up and run

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<v Speaker 1>out of here, they say to try to like just

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<v Speaker 1>blink or like lift your little finger or just any

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.320
<v Speaker 1>conscious movement that you can get can break that thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently the moment you do that, the spell is broken. Yeah.

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Um is how it's been put forever. Um. Herman Melville

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<v Speaker 1>was the first, I think to write about this, and

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Mobi dick Ishmael recounts sleep paralysis again. Yeah. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I think twenty five or fifty years later, the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>um it shows up in the medical literature. Silas Weir Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 1>who we know from The Exploding Heads and right. He

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<v Speaker 1>also he also described that for the first time to

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>this guy was like knocking out the paras omnia is

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<v Speaker 1>left and right, um, but they both used this terminology

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that the spell is broken. All it takes is just

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:16.719
<v Speaker 1>the slightest stir and and the sleep prowsis is over with.

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>But the problem is you can't move, you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>a sound. Um. They said to even try to clearing

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.679
<v Speaker 1>your throat. Yeah, but even that can be challenging. But

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 1>supposedly if you can even get just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>going you you wake yourself up a little bit, and

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>then you can do it a little more and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more, and then all of a sudden you're screaming

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and you've woken yourself up. Or if you can make

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<v Speaker 1>a sound or a signal or something to get your

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:45.879
<v Speaker 1>partner help, something to notice that you are in the

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 1>midst of sleep prowesses, all they have to do is

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>just like touch you and it brings you back to

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>reality or this reality. Yeah, and it's not one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where you know it's dangerous to wake someone

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>up experiencing sleep proalysis, right, and it's like totally fine. Yeah,

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>that's the other thing about it is as terrifying and

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>horrifying and just what a horrible experience it is. It's

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>physiologically it's harmless aside from raising your blood pressure. Yeah,

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean I guess you could always like trigger up

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 1>cardiac arrest or something maybe. But right, well, supposedly it mimics, um,

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>having a heart attack in some ways, so you actually

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>could be having a heart attack and and think it

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a sleep paralysis or um. I think it also mimics

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:32.479
<v Speaker 1>epilepsy in some ways. Um. But if it is just

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>actual sleep paralysis, it's harmless. Well yeah, and I know

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>we did mention this. It might have been the trans

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>magnetic transcranial magnetic yeah, yeah, simulation where they recommend one

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>of the things is to just tell or it might

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.880
<v Speaker 1>have been night terrors. Tell people just to like learn

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to embrace it and go with it and then it

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't because sometimes it can be a joyful experience. It's

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>not always tear. Yeah, and maybe if you roll with it,

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you can control it a little bit more. It was

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it was exploding head syndrome. That's just just learning that

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>it's actually harmless, the same thing like let people. Some

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>people just got over it immediately, um, and then other people,

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>um yeah with this have learned to actually enjoy like

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the feeling of levitating or floating, and it all comes

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>down to hearing that it's harmless, and hearing that it's

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>harmless relieves stress, and stress is actually what brings both

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of those things on. So they're related in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll we'll get down to the scientific nitty gritty

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<v Speaker 1>after this break. Huh chuck, sir, if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>eat better, all right, tune. What's what's really going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>Old hags aside? Uh, well, I guess we should talk

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>about narcolepsy a little bit because this is one of

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the I guess side effects of narcolepsy. Um. There are

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>actually a couple of them, sleep paralysis and then what's

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>called vivid hypnogogic hallucinations, which is when you're falling asleep

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about. And apparently if you're narcileptic about

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>seventeen of narcoleptic or people who have narcolepsy, is it

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>wrong to say narcoleptic? Probably? Probably. I think with any

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>any condition or disease, don't like identify the person, right, Yeah,

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>it's somebody with it, that's right, So somebody with narcailepsy.

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And I want to hear from you people. By the way,

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>some people who who have NARCOLEPSI will be like, hey,

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm an arcileptic. I don't care, and other people will

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>say like, kudos, right for saying people with narcilepsy, UH

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 1>seventeen experienced sleep paralysis. If you are stricken with narcolepsy,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>experience those vivid hypnogogic hallucinations and UM, it pretty much

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>as individual as far as UH is how much you're

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>going to have these and how much you experience it,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>whether you're have narcolepsy or not. UM. But if you

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>are non narcalyptic in that population, which is most people, UM,

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty to of those folks apparently will experience it at

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>least one pretty wide range. Some people experiencing experience it

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>very frequently. UM. And apparently if you have basically chronic UM, Yeah,

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's called severe and chronic sleep paralysis. So

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>severe is UM where it happens like multiple times in

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>a night, and then chronic is where that happens over

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a period of six months. If you're one of those

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>poor s obs who has chronics of your sleep paralysis,

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>this can happen to you like up to twelve times

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>or more in a night. Yeah, because when you get

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>back to sleep, it will happen all over again, right, Yeah,

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>So that was one of the things when you're when

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're moving a finger, blinking an eye, or making

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a sound and you wake yourself up, you want to

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>actually get out of bed and get up and move around,

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>basically shake it off, because if you don't, you can

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>fall back asleep and the same thing is going to

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>happen again and again. Then even more mind boggling. Is

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>this one of the other traits of um sleep paralysis

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 1>or what it called false awakenings, right, which is some

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>straight up inception stuff where you think you're awake and

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>screaming but you're not. Right, then you wake up and realize, oh,

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I was dreaming that I was awake and experiencing sleep paralysis.

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's a bit of a mind bender. It is

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>including that these false awakenings, according to Professor French in

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that video, can can be several layers deep. So when

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you have an about of sleep paralysis and you finally

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>scream and wake up, you realize, oh I was dreaming, right,

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you might experience it again and then you do the

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>same thing and you you you go through this multiple

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>times until you finally actually do wake up. But you

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>can go through sleep paralysis over and over again in

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>different layers of a dream. Yeah, and then you get

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>up and you go to work at your stupid cubicle,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and no one around he has any idea that the

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 1>living hell that you're experiencing or just the amazing journey

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you've just been on with a rod. Uh. One thing

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that really stinks is if you know to combat it,

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>like you said, to get up and fully wake yourself up,

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that that could screw you. If you have a hard

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>time falling back asleep, you might be up for the night. Uh.

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>In this one person in here describe the feedback loop

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of stress. A lot of times stresses what brings brings

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>it on, and then it becomes this self fulfilling prophecy

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that you're stressed out about what's going to happen, which

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>makes it happen and you're just thinking, oh no, no,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>not not again, not again, not again, And of course

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that's when it happens, right right, right, So, like the

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>stress is messing up your sleep pattern and that's where

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing comes from. Right. So, the first two

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>guys who were described in the Medical Nature by Silas,

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>we're Mitchell Um as having sleep paralysis. We're actually healthy.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But it was people with narcilepsy who ultimately lead to

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>basically the solving of the mystery of what sleep paralysis is.

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>And one of the characteristics of narcilepsy is something called

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>sleep on st r e M periods. Yeah that they

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>think that may be the key there. I I think

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it's the key. Yeah, So what that is? Uh, you know,

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>we've talked a lot about r e M sleep that

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>usually happens about an hour or at least an hour

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>or more after you've fallen asleep. And what's happening here

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>is is so imp can we call it that? Yes,

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>sleep on st r EM periods is when you're experiencing

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>this r e M before that hour or so has passed,

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Like right as you're falling asleep, you go straight into

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the r M sleep. So, like I think in my

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>own private Idaho either Keyana Reeves or River Phoenix when

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>they like fell asleep, yeah, one of those said an arcolepsy, right, yeah,

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>one of them think so um, like their their eyes

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of fluttered, okay, So like that was a perfect

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>perfect portrayal of narcilepsy because your eyes would flutter during

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>ri e M sleep, and it would happen immediately if

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you had sudden nonset R e M periods. Right. So

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the idea that somebody can fall asleep and immediately go

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>into R E M sleep rather than go through the

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>sleep cycles and the stages like you're supposed to, that

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>apparently is what accounts for is associated very strongly with

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>episodes of sleep paralysis with people with narcilepsy, with people

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>who have sore MPs. Because you don't have to have

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>narcilepsy to have sleep on set R e M periods.

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a trait of narcolepsy, but even people

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>who who don't have narcolepsy can experience that, and usually

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>it's when you're very stressed and your sleep pattern is

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>out of whack. Yeah, I think what I was trying

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>to say was that doesn't explain when you have of

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis episode coming out of sleep, right, which is

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the hip no pomp pick uh, But I think it

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>was probably who is it? Dr French, Professor French. Mr

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>French in the in the conservatory with the candlestick, uh,

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Professor French. I think reasons that it doesn't fully explain it,

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>but it could relate because it's a similar state of

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>consciousness either way falling sleep or waking up. Yeah. So

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>basically exiting or entering R E M sleep suddenly into

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>this reality can can be attended by an episode of

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis. Yeah. And they did some studies in Japan.

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>They actually elicited that sore MP. These are mean, yeah,

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>don't you think. I don't know how they would do that,

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>but they elicited sore and participants uh, and they used

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>sleep interruption in nine point four percent of the ones

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>induced had an episode of sleep paralysis. Yeah, but that

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>was that was UM going into sleep. Correct. They've not

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>figured out how to how to like you said, created

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and bringing somebody out of R E M sleep, but

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>again associated with it, and what they think is going

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>on is basically this when you when you suddenly go

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>into R E M sleep from waking life, your brain

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>can get caught in this dual state of consciousness where

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 1>your brain is consciously awake, but it's also in the

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>exact same same UM state it's in when you're dreaming,

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>which your dreams take place in R A M sleep,

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>So you're in two states of justinus at once. That's

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>amazing to me, that's sleep paralysis, and the paralysis is

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>explained by the fact that another hallmark of r M

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>sleep is that you can't move your muscles are paralyzed.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>It's cataplexy, right. Um, so that you don't act out

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>your dreams, so you're dreaming while you're awake, that's sleep paralysis. Yeah, or,

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>as Dr French says, wakefulness has occurred, but the body

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and part of the brain are still in r M sleep.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Nuts it is, I can't. I want to have one

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>of these, Yeah, but it sounds so scary. Panic. These

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>are the words are used for it. I know I

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>want to have one, and I'm not taking it lightly

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>for people that suffer from it. I know it can

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>be awful, but I would like to like the exploding

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>head thing, like, now I know what that feels like. Yeah,

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and I kind of like having these references in life, okay,

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like personal references. You know. Sure, I remember we did

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the slinky episode. You went out and bought it slinky.

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>That's not true. Um. So, like we said, how you

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 1>can break it is by trying to move small things,

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 1>clear your throat maybe. Um. Aside from that, you can

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>try and avoid it altogether. By if you're able to

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>have a really regular sleep schedule and stuff like that.

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>But if you're they make a good point. If you're traveling,

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>if you're in different time zones, if you have to

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>work the night shift, you have a kid, yeah, exactly,

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 1>waking up all night, you might uh kind of be

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the mercy of the sleep paralysis. God. Yeah,

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I was, Um. I was glad that they put that

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>in that realism because so many times whenever you're talking

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>about is sleep disorder, it's like the CDC recommends an

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>apple a day, and it's just like this is not helpful,

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Like this isn't real. But this guy's like, yeah, you're

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you're in trouble when your sleep's all jacked up and

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you have sleep paralysis a lot. Yeah, what else is there? Oh? Um,

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>with narcolepsy in particular, and I mean there are drugs

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that you can take, but they don't necessary early work

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 1>with sleep paralysis with with narcolepsy. Um sodium oxybate is

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>uh prescribed and I looked that up as g HB. Yeah,

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>but that's just for an eclepsy, not for sleep paralysis.

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Right with the idea that if you cured the narcolepsy,

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>then you won't have the sleep paralysis. That I think

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>is how you could cure it. But that's only if

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you have narcolepsy, not um isolated sleep paralysis. I think

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the official recommendation, aside from all the little tricks that

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned, is, like we said, hey, it's not gonna

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>hurt you, UM, try and reframe how this is in

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>your brain and don't be afraid of it. Welcome the incubus.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 1>What if the band incubus was what showed up in

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>your room while you had sleep paralysis? You know. Another

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>way to treat this is for everybody to be nice

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to everybody else and cut down on everyone's stress. You

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 1>never know who has sleep paralysis. They might think they're

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>being abducted by UFOs and antally probed every night and

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>are too freaked out to even mention it, which is

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>another thing that UM Professor French points out, like we

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>need to let people know about this because the more

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 1>people we know that this is actually harmless and fairly common,

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.919
<v Speaker 1>the less stressed they're going to be about it when

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.359
<v Speaker 1>it actually when they go to bed. So go out there,

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>you tell somebody about sleep paralysis, and then also be

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>nice to everyone you meet. Yeah, I posted a there's

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>a documentary about it. Um, I can't remember the name

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>right now, but I posted this documentary trailer quite a

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>while ago then Netflix. I can't remember what it's called,

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>but I know what you're talking about, like the dream

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe something like that. It's got a pillow. But um,

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I posted on Facebook a while ago, and uh, a

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of people chimed in that had bouts of sleep paralysis. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>apparently it's very common. Yeah. I went and look through

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the comments today. It was pretty interesting stuff. And my

0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>heart goes out to everybody same here. And hopefully you've

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>learned just to sort of live with it, be a

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>dream sailor you live with it and write it out.

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>That would be kind of cool, though I'd be like

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>levitation on control it, incubus out, suck, give us in. Uh,

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? No, If you want to, um,

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.720
<v Speaker 1>learn more about sleep paralysis, we'll just type those words

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in the search bar because we have a very limited

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>amount here and how stuff works. So after you read

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Robert Lamb's great thing, go check out stuff on the internet. Okay, okay, Uh,

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.439
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<v Speaker 1>there that translates world now. Upon learning that I passed

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<v Speaker 1>with flying colors with a you my mother caught bought

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<v Speaker 1>me a card on the front reads I want to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to all the podcast you do. Mhm. For a

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<v Speaker 1>moment I thought that maybe I talked about you guys

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<v Speaker 1>too much, but promptly dismiss the idea. So thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the show, for the awesome podcast. Four exclamation points from

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<v Speaker 1>one academic to several others. Three exclamation points. They're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to dwindle. Many many thanks. That is from Tigan. Thanks Tegan,

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<v Speaker 1>who uh describes herself. I guess Tigan's a lady's name,

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<v Speaker 1>right sure, um as a nerdy neuropsych major from Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Tigan. We appreciate that big time and

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<v Speaker 1>all the exclamation points. So those were very nice. Got

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<v Speaker 1>the lazy towards the end, but right I turned the

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<v Speaker 1>trail off. Maybe she broke the key. Maybe she has

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<v Speaker 1>an ecolepsy. Good point. Uh. If you want to get

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