1 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, you ever work on a car and you're like, 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: you're sure the part you're after is in there somewhere. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: You just have to keep taking things apart to get 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: to it. Big cars like that don't make a love 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: do get less heavy a big car? Yeah, car the 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: car Doctor. I'm wondering if the pads themselves, the metal 7 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: portion of the pad is rubbing somewhere it's not supposed to. 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: And you know, I thank you on something that I've 9 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: been thinking myself. Welcome to the radio home of ron 10 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: and Nannian the Car Doctor, since this is where car 11 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 12 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 13 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 14 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six and now he running. Hey, 16 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: it's time to start your enginees. Hello and welcome Ronny 17 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor here at eight five five five 18 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero, here to take your 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: calls and answer your questions about whatever it is it's 20 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: bugging you or your automobile. About your automobile however you 21 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: want to take that eight five five five six zero 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero seven car doctor phone number. Give 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: us a call. If we're not on the air. We're 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: live on the network Saturday afternoons two to four pm 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Eastern Time. You can call, leave a message and Chief 26 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: Executive Producer Thomas Ray the third will give you a 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: call back and put you in the Q for next 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: week show eight five five five six zero nine nine 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: zero zero. It was a pile on week at the shop, 30 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: you know to pile on actually Wednesday, Wednesday was pile 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: on day because no matter what you did, the pile 32 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: just kept getting bigger. It was, and that's really what 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: ort to repair shops roll about, or to repair shops are. 34 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: They're about piles. There's there's piles of parts, there's piles 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: of cars, There's there's piles of paperwork, there are piles 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: of tools. You're always dealing with piles, and sometimes that 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: pile is is daunting, it's overwhelming. It's it's no different 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: than what you do in your job. Wednesday was brutal, 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: it really was. It was just they were rolling in 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: the door like oranges and there was nothing we could 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: do to to keep up with the pace. And you 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: just weren't going to keep up with the pace. You 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: just knew that you had more cars capable of being 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: able to be dealt with, and people didn't want to 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: take no for an answer. Ensure just bring it in 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: and put it somewhere and if you can find a 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: bargain spot. Next. I made the error. Write it down. 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: I made an error of you, gonta, put your key 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: on the counter, right, you know, you know who everybody is. 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: I know you are. Just put the key on the 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: counter and I'll get to it later on in the 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: course of the time. Yeah, I should never say that. 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: You know, what's that movie with George Clooney, The Perfect Storm? 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: This is like the creation of the Perfect Storm. It 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: was the perfect pile on. I got up to the 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: counter about four o'clock and there were six keys, all 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: from Fords, all from model year two thousand five through 58 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. I think we cleaned out that 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: corner of Bergen County of Ford Fusions, tourists and Mercury Mullane's. 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: That's all we had. Now, some of the cars, some 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: of the keys have you know, beeper's attached remote and 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: some didn't. And you know, you've got six keys all Fords. 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: They're in the schedule, or some weren't in the schedule. 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: They're there for the next day or the day after. 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: They were dropping off early. Some of them handwrote notes, 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: and you're you're trying to figure out, you know, what 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: key goes with what car. So you take your remote 68 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: out and you're you're going out into the parking lot. 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: You figured out just at the remote, it'll it'll, it'll be. 70 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: And now because they're they're ten twelve years old, and 71 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: nobody fixes remotes. After they get to be so old, 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: the batteries go bad, the remotes break. So now you're 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: walking around the parking lot at four o'clock with a 74 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: half a dozen keys in your pocket and key takes 75 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: go on. Let's say this one, this one went to 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: this one, and your hand unlocking keys, trying, you know, doors, 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: trying to It's such a simple thing, right, you know, 78 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: you think it's so simple, keys and cars, Like how 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: hard could have been. You're just trying to whittle the 80 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: pile down. There was a pile of broken cars, and 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: I did, I started it all out, and you know, 82 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: never will I do that again. Just put it on 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: a pile on the counter, because never would have assumed 84 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: that we'd get all the same and understand, when they're 85 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: that close and model, you're two thousand five, six, seven eight, 86 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: all the keys kind of look the same, they don't. 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: They seem to follow a pattern. It was just, oh 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: my god. We had one car there, we had we 89 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: had one generation Afford there. This week, we had one 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: day this week we had three fusions, A nine and 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: two tens, A two thousand nine and to two thousand tens. 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: One of the two thousand tents needed breaks, one of 93 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: the nine needed general service, and that the other two 94 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: thousand ten had to check engine light on. I think 95 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: that's what it was. Are you confused yet? I was, 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: because we had to be very careful that. And you 97 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: know it's happened right. You pulled the car in and 98 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: you know you read two thousand ten. You got to 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: look at the license plate. What's the license plate? When 100 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: you're in a smaller shop, you tend not to look 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: at license plate. You know who's the car is. Turns 102 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: out the two tents were both black Fusions, and the 103 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: the O nine was a dark blue. So now you 104 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: know dark blue when it's dirty. If you kind of 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: look at it and squint on a dark day. It 106 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: looks black, uh, you know. And I told Danny be 107 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: very very careful. I feel like elm were Futt, be 108 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: very very careful that we're fixing the white cow today. 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: And it was you know, so that was a pile. 110 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: That was a pile of cars to pay per work 111 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: was easy. The paperwork pile this week was just and 112 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: it was just it just is. It's just it's just endless, 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, it just and you're just always shuffling paper 114 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: and moving things around and putting in its right place 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: and tracking parts. And it was a pile on week, 116 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: It really was. I was glad when Friday came, well 117 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: sort of. That was yesterday. Yesterday, I got to the 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: shop about five to six in the morning because we 119 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: were way behind and we had to get a pile 120 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: of cars out and we did. We got out every 121 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: car that we had to get out. The last the 122 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: last job of the day was a tough one. It 123 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: was a two thousand two Chevy Trailblazer that had been 124 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: there all week. We were it was it was a 125 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: pile on. It was an add on to the pile 126 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: on Monday. It broken down over last weekend and the 127 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: shift cable failed. You know, you talk about stupidity and engineering, 128 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and sometimes you look at these things and you say 129 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: it's amazing how they last as long as they do. 130 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: In side the end of the shift cable, General Motors 131 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: decided in two thousand, until you can put this little 132 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: hard nylon rubber plastic bushing, and that rubber plastic bushing, 133 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I guess on the assembly line. It just pushes in 134 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: over the shift stud on the shift lever on the 135 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: side of the trans and it locks it in place. 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: If tires dry rod every five to six years, what 137 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: do you think happens to the rubber parts on the 138 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: car especially something is critical and a key component as 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: the rubber bushing inside a shift lever. This poor woman 140 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: was coming out with the hands full of groceries previous 141 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: Saturday and had a car full of groceries and you know, 142 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: on an otherwise nice car, and the nickel part just 143 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: cracks and she can't move the car out of gear. 144 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: She moved the shifter and there you are, well to 145 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: change the shift or cable. This is the second you know, 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: at least I've decided that they seemed to group the 147 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: stupid engineers altogether in the same category. Right, So not 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: only did the design of bed shift cable, but they 149 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: also made replacement kind of ridiculous because to replace the 150 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: shift cable on an O two Chevy Trailblazer, the driver's 151 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: seat has to come out, the console has to come out, 152 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: the carpeting has to come out, all right, because the 153 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: cable comes up through a hole in the floor that 154 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: they make with the rubber grammet and then it runs 155 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: which by the way that rubber gramt held up and 156 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: it comes in. It runs up the floor pan, up 157 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: around the top of the tunnel and into the back 158 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: of the shifter. So about quarter to four yesterday, you know, 159 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to do inside any repair shop 160 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: because you know, you need room. You have to spread 161 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: things out. So about quarter to four yesterday, if you 162 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: drove by the shop, it looked like we were disassembling 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: the interior of a car. We actually were, in a way. 164 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: We had the uh, we had the carpet spread out, 165 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: we had the seat out, we had the console out, 166 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: we had the and you get the point, and we 167 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: got it back together. About four thirty five. It was 168 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: back together and ready to go. It took a little 169 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: bit of part of the afternoon and that pile was 170 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: reduced to nothing. So it was it was really great. 171 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: About five fifteen, five twenty yesterday, we walked out the 172 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: door and I looked around and I said, man, what 173 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: a pile on week. It's just it's just you know, 174 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. And you drive by the shop right now, 175 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: there's four cars in the park along there's carpenter Bob's truck, 176 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: which is dead. There's the Dodge h Diesel, the pickup 177 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: which is done waiting for pickup. There's a bulk going 178 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: a scrap, and there's one more and I don't remember 179 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: what it was. Oh, it's the Oh eight Explorer, which 180 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll be able to talk about next week 181 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: because that's the other part about pile on week. It 182 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: seems like they come in in groups, right, so that 183 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: one has a broken shifter. Also, except with that one, 184 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: that car won't shift that a year so Ford made it. 185 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: And you know there's a problem in that car that 186 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: they put the cup holders right next to the shifter. 187 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: So the original complaint with that car was that the 188 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: customer can't shift it out of park. Put your foot 189 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: on the brake, it it doesn't shift. You put your 190 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: foot on the on on on on the pedal pushed 191 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: down and you have it lights to break lights which 192 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: is working, but it won't shift out of park. You 193 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: take that console apart and you find eleven years worth 194 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: of soda, coffee, dried sugar all wedged into the shifter 195 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and around the electromagnetic shift actuator, and you go, I'm 196 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna design a car. It's gonna be very simple. It's 197 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna start, it's gonna run. It won't have a 198 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: lot of bells and whistles. All it'll doodles, will get 199 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: you to work, and when it breaks, it will be 200 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: nuts and bolts. I might have to invent the time 201 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: machine because you're not gonna be able to drive it 202 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: on today's roads, because I'm sure somebody will have a 203 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: problem with that. But boy, it's just something's gotta make 204 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: more sense than the way we make cars today, and 205 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: then we were expected to fix them because it seems 206 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: like you guys, the poor consumers, are fighting a losing 207 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: battle paying for something expecting at the last in that um, 208 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's just not getting a whole bunch easier. 209 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, that was the week at the shop. It 210 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: was a pile on week I'm on any of the 211 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. The phone numbers eight zero nine zero zero. 212 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: That is the number. We're here to take calls out. 213 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: I see the phones are lit up. We'll pull away 214 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: and take a pause. Um. I also want to comment 215 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: this hour. I think it's this hour and next we'll 216 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: talk about it. But I understand the city of Boston 217 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: is going to autonomous cars. Oh boy, I'm sure this 218 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: will go over really well. So but Ron and any 219 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor, I'll be back right after this. 220 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: Don't go away. When the family car needs some fixing, 221 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: There's only two things that really matter, getting the right 222 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: part and getting some good advice. It's a pretty safe 223 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: bet that, with over a million parts in stock, pep 224 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Boys has the right part right now. The Pep Boys 225 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: Pros are extensively trained to find the right part for 226 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: just about any car truck. Better yet, these pros can 227 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: also handle the entire installation or service needed. It's always 228 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: good to have options and know the Pep Boys Pros 229 00:11:50,200 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: have it covered either way. Welcome back, any of the 230 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Thanks for joining us this hour, and thanks 231 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: for getting together with us this weekend. We know you've 232 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: got a lot of choice, isn't a lot to do, 233 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: and we appreciate you being here. Let's get talk to 234 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Frank New Mexico fourteen Nissan Center some scan tool questions. Frank, 235 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor, Sir, how can I help? Oh? Thanks, Ron, Uh, 236 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: my wife's got this U Nissan Sentra. And I'm wanting 237 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: to get a scan tool that will tell me almost everything. 238 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Probably I don't know whether I could afford dealers level. 239 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: What Canucks get me quite a bit? Um? And and 240 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: keep in mind, you know, out of all the scan 241 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: tools I have, and everyone knows, you know, we've got 242 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: more than a few scan tools, it's I forget which 243 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: ones I actually have. Sometimes I have to walk around 244 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: the shop and go, yeah, I got that that that 245 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: that that. Um. I would say sixty to seventy percent 246 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: of the time, the scan tool of choice is the 247 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: cheapie I've got hanging by the first bay garage door. UM. 248 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: It's a very old GAM tool from I mean it 249 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: was sp x O t C at the time in 250 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: bosh bo OTC five years ago. To show you how 251 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: old this scan tool is. So it's it's probably ten 252 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: twelve years old and it still works. It works on 253 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: everything from you know, teens on down as far as 254 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: O b D two is concerned. And that's my point. 255 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: I fixed most of my cars, well of my cars 256 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: strictly with O b D two technology, just looking at 257 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: that side of the vehicle computer. So I think in 258 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: terms of you that you know, the citizen with the 259 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: fourteen CenTra, to try and get something dealer level, I 260 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: think you're gonna find it's gonna be too expensive. And 261 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's always gonna be that specialty tool that 262 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: you needed. There's always gonna be that that that something 263 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: that you don't have. So I think five is a 264 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: good budget. Um do you have it? Do you haven 265 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: O'Reilly oota parts by you? Frank? Oh? Yeah. I was 266 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: always wondering whether Riley or look on eBay for snap 267 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: on or something. You know, Well, I think you know 268 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: what I think. I think it's a choice. So two, 269 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's go talk to the 270 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: guys that oroallyot to parts see what they have. I'm 271 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: thinking about some of the Actron line, uh, the orange 272 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: colored scan tools which will be O b D two 273 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: and they're they're made by OTC or their division of OTC. 274 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Good quality stuff there there. Oh yeah, that's what you're 275 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: what you're basically looking for is okay, let's break it 276 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: out like this. You're looking for a scan tool that 277 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: will read codes, all right, and this is o b 278 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: D two, so it's not gonna be manufacturer specific. It's 279 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: gonna be O b D two compliant, all right. So 280 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: you want to look at something that will read and 281 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: clear trouble codes as far as engine controllers are concerned, 282 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: all right. And would you be able to reset the 283 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: things like when you change batteries or change this or 284 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: that party you gotta no. Now, well, now you're getting 285 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: into vehicle specific all right. So what you know because 286 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: because what you're describing is, you know, the procedure for 287 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: resetting battery replacement on a Ford might be different than 288 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: a Nissan, might be different than a Honda. So you've 289 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: got to have the ability to get into something and 290 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: go vehicle specific. So yeah, because I like to work 291 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: on the cars myself, but I can't do anything with 292 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the newer cars and that you know. So now you're 293 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: now you're going to spend more than five Now that 294 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: doesn't that that that that doesn't mean that you don't 295 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: buy two scan tools. You know, it's it's like it's 296 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: it's like collecting old cars, right, he who has the 297 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: most winds? Uh, you know I got I got a 298 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: bunch of old cars yere. How did I know that? Um? 299 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you know I would I would 300 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: probably buy a basic O b D tool that does 301 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: code clearing and data stream. That's the other that's the 302 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: other piece that you're looking for if it does both 303 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: of those things, and learn from there, all right, Get 304 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: get familiar with fuel trim, Get familiar with, uh, you know, 305 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: doing looking at calculated load. Get familiar with understanding the 306 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: relationship between intake air temp and you know, cooling temp. Uh, 307 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: learn the difference and look at and this one of 308 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: the nice things that O b D two will will do. Um. 309 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: That Nissan CenTra, I'm almost certain has an air fuel 310 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: ratio censor in it, one of your older cars, but 311 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: computer compliant probably has an O two censor in it. 312 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Nissan calls an air fuel ratio something different than GM, 313 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: than Chrysler. They all call them. They all call the 314 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: same part by different names. O b D two standardizes it. 315 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: It tends to refer to an air fuel sensor is 316 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: either an air fuel or an O two, so you're 317 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: not spending time looking through, you know, a long list 318 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: of pigs or pieces of information, pieces of data. Gee, 319 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: what what the heck does Chrysler call it? Chrysler Christler 320 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: calls fuel trim something totally different than the rest of them. 321 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: And you'll drive yourself nuts trying to remember if you 322 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: don't do enough, Chrysler's O B D two makes it 323 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: a standard and and and that's what's really nice about 324 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: working with O B D two. It doesn't matter. It 325 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: could be a Mercedes or a Chevrolet. It's gonna have 326 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: the same nomenclature in naming in the system. Now you 327 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: want to get into something vehicle specific. Yeah, then you're 328 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: going out to eBay and you're gonna look at, you know, 329 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: either a shop that's giving up a snap on tool 330 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: or you're gonna go look at uh, you know, it's 331 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: a really nice tool that we like, we use a 332 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: lot in the shop. Is the launch the launch torque, 333 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: the launched torque. Now you know we're more than five, 334 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: we're probably on the street from between three grand and 335 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: before you faint understand what the tool will do? All right? 336 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: The tool is vehicle specific. It does it. It probably 337 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: fills the whole of the time of the time. There 338 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: isn't a lot that tool doesn't do. And it's right 339 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: up there with with the you know, with the rest 340 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: of the industry and the rest of the aftermarket in 341 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: terms of you know, capability. You gotta remember this when 342 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: you're buying a scan tool. It's banged for the buck 343 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: the day you buy that tool, it's obsolete and you've 344 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: got to get the most out of it. It really is. 345 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: It's like buying a computer. It's obsolete, brother one, you know, 346 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: it's It's one of the nice things about the Launch 347 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: is the way they updated. They're always updating the tool, 348 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: They're always taking the tool. Um you know, you have 349 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: a subscription, you can every time you log in you 350 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: can look. Yeah, they're updating this manufacturer, this manufacturer, this manufacturer. 351 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: You know. I know it sounds like a lot of money, 352 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: but if you want something vehicle specific and easy to use, 353 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: the launched Torque is is really the way to go. 354 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: All right, Frank, Yes, sir, you have a you have 355 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: a great thing, and thanks for giv us the call 356 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: in and let us know what you end up doing. 357 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: But either a Rileyota parts or Leota dot com or 358 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: get out the launch Launch Tech USA. If you want 359 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: something vehicle specific, I'm running any of the Car Doctor. 360 00:18:41,280 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this at right. If you 361 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: call and we're not live, you can leave a message 362 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: and we'll call you back to get you on the 363 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: air with Ron eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. 364 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: Speaking to Ron there, he is, Well, we had to 365 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: welcome back. We yea. Tony's looking at me puzzled because 366 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: I've got Lucy the Wonder Dog in here today with me. 367 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Baby Lucy was looking at the door. I think, uh 368 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: Lucy is trying to protect me from the mob outside. 369 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: So um, let's get back to the phone. Let's go 370 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: over to Yes, Lucy care, Yes, good girl, Lucy the 371 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: studio pit bull, very ferocious, who big? Who throw a 372 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: saddle on? Or take her for a ride out in 373 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: the back parking lot. There, let's go and talk to 374 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: Denny in Indiana two thousand two Honda cord. Danny, Welcome 375 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir, how can I help hi? Ron? Um, 376 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm calling about my daughter's two thousand two Honda accord. Uh, 377 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of a weird symptom where when 378 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: it's coming to a stop. When you're driving along and 379 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: he come to a stop. Uh, usually split second after 380 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: you stop, there's a thump um. It kind of shakes 381 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: the vehicle and it feels almost like when you are 382 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: in Neutron and you put in the drive. And I 383 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: don't know if there's a if there's a common thing 384 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: with either cords, or there's a good way to diagnose 385 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: what the issue might be. Is it sort of that 386 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: you've pulled up to a stop sign or traffic light 387 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: and you've stopped, and then a second later the car 388 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of catch us up to itself. Uh you know, 389 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: since yeah that there. You know, if you put it 390 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: into neutral, do you get the same sensation? Uh? No, 391 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: when you put in neutral, you do not feel it 392 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: at all. So if you pull up to if you 393 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: pull up to a stop sign and pop it into neutral, 394 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: you don't get the feeling. Correct Or if I put 395 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: in a neutral as I'm coasting to a stop, I 396 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: won't feel it either. And other than that, the car 397 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: feels good on the road at speed sixty, no shake, 398 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: no pull, no wander uh you know, no steer in 399 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: the ship. It actually drives really well. Okay, all right, 400 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: it's shift good going up through the gears and everything. 401 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: Um it seems like um as when it's cold or outside, 402 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: it's worse than when it's warm outside. Uh So, I 403 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: don't know if that has anything to do with that 404 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: at all or not. There's there there's two weak links 405 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: in a chords of that generation. Ones the trans the 406 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: other is the catalytic converters. So you know, if there's 407 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: a trans issue with this, I'm not going to be surprised. 408 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: But before we just jump out and say yeah, the 409 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: trans is bed, let's just let's just have a small conversation. 410 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: I always want to look at I always want to 411 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: look at axle seals on these cars. I've seen the 412 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: axle seals. It seems like that early two thousand one 413 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: two threes all had issues where axle seal leaks developed 414 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: and trans fluid level would run low, or as a 415 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: result of the leaks and trans fluid level running low, 416 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: the carriers themselves the final drive you know the differential 417 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: if you will, that's in the transmission. The carrier bearings 418 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: would go bad and they'd start to create play and slop, 419 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: and then the axles would bind up and release on 420 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: stop and it would create an issue. And I've seen 421 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: cases of you know, rebuilding the differential solves that sensation 422 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: of the car catching up to itself. Um, you know, 423 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: so that's something to go look at. Obviously, we want 424 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: to look at all the mounts, you know, transmounts, the 425 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: two engine mounts, the one in the front by the radiator. Uh, 426 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: the one over on the right side. Is this a 427 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: four or a six cylinder? Denny? Yeah? Um, you know, 428 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: take a look at the mounts and make sure they're okay. 429 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: Does the shift indicator on the dashboard, you know, the 430 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: little too the d the two the one does it 431 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: ever experience that she ever experienced where one of those 432 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: lights or two of those lights are lit up at 433 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: the same time. Uh? No, okay, she haven't said anything 434 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: to me about it, and I haven't notice that my 435 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: driving any The two thousand one, and I know you 436 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: were to the two thousand one accords were so bad, 437 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: so bad as far as transmissions were concerned. Honda extended 438 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: the warranty up to a hundred thousand miles. The weird 439 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: part is the two's had basically the same transmission, and 440 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: Honda did nothing for those vehicle owners. They know that 441 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: the ones had some had their issues, So I'm always 442 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: judgmental with the twos and the threes. You know, for 443 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: conditions like this, it's got to be look at fluid, 444 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: look at mounts. Like I said, look at accele seals 445 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: could have a final drive issue, uh, you know, and 446 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: then I would scan it for codes if there's none 447 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: in there. But I think at this point and as 448 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: long as there's nothing loose in the front end, that 449 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: that that somehow we're missing in the conversation here, you've 450 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: got an internal transfort I don't. I don't see it 451 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: as much of anything else. How many miles are on 452 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, that's kind of where they start to 453 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: have their issues, you know, I would. Um, let me 454 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: ask you this question, is is the problem there every time? 455 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: If if once, if the weather is at the right 456 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, if it's if if the temperature is at 457 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: the right condition, is it the same every time? Yeah? 458 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: In other words, could could repair shop duplicated? So if 459 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: somebody late, it doesn't every time we drive. Um, you know, 460 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: there's every once in a while where it won't do it, 461 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: but it doesn't more often than not. You know. It's 462 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: it's because my my questions are can somebody diagnose it? 463 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: And then depending upon the diagnosis and where she don't 464 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 1: where she's going with it, how badly does it need 465 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: to be repaired? You know, is it? Is it? And 466 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: and that's part of this question too. It's a two 467 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: thousand two, it's got a hundred forty thousand miles on it, 468 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, college student, high school student, Um, you know 469 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: what she yeah, you know, it's it's you know, what 470 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: is she doing with the car? And then how far 471 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: is she? How far is she going? You know, because 472 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: to put a transmission in that car, that's the next 473 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: question that always comes up. If it if it was 474 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: part of the you know, the transmission replacements part of 475 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: the problem. I don't know what. I don't know what. 476 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like in Indiana from a 477 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: cost perspective, but I can tell you here in the 478 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: tri state New York, New Jersey area, that's a that's 479 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: a thirty thousand dollar trans overhaul all day long. So 480 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, to spend that kind of money on an 481 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: older car, you know. Um, you always think about cost 482 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: of living and how it changes around the country, but uh, 483 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't see that as a thousand dollar 484 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: repair uh, you know, so you've got you've got it right. 485 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: You got to think about that as well. So, um, 486 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: those are the things I'd be looking for. It sounds 487 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: like if this is a if they are a generation 488 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: of Chord where the transmissions are not very well uh 489 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: spoken of, then it probably wouldn't be good to consider 490 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: you transmission either. Well, now that's exactly right, because you 491 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: know you're gonna get the exact same thing, and you 492 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: know there's there there's a fair amount of labor and 493 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: pulling that trans It's it's it's it's not the worst, 494 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: it's not the best, but you know, and it also 495 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: comes back to I think what you've got to look 496 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: at here is what are you gonna do with the 497 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: car after she graduates? She's a high school senior she 498 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: just graduated, or she's a junior, gonna be gonna become 499 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: a senior. She's going to be a junior this coming year. Okay, um, uh, 500 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: so she's gonna be a junior, So she's gonna have 501 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: the car another two years. It sounds like that was 502 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: the plan. Yeah, So he drives about five miles down 503 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: the road to high school and back. So her high 504 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: school driving is not too bad, but I wouldn't trust 505 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: this for going out of town or anything like that. Well, 506 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: and then I guess the question comes back to what's 507 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: it gonna cost if it if it is a trans, 508 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: what would it cost to put a trans in it? 509 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: And is that cheaper than replacing the car? And then, 510 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately, and I've been there, you know, I 511 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: was there, just put in the last ten years, you 512 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: started thinking of these things. They're gonna go away to 513 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: college or are you gonna be okay with them driving 514 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: that car to college? If they're gonna drive at the college, 515 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: do you keep him in that car? Do you migrate 516 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: to the other car? You know, it's you know, we 517 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: were buying them three wheelers twenty years ago or fifteen 518 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: years ago, and now here we are, you know, trying 519 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: to set them up in cars and make them into adults. 520 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: It never ends. You just want to get off. You 521 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: want to get him off the payroll. That's all I 522 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: can tell you, Danny. It just it takes a while. Yeah, um, 523 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: it really does take a while. So but um, that's 524 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: how I would approach it, sir. All right, okay, all right, 525 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: very good, You're very welcome, You're very welcome. You're a 526 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: good luck to you. Yeah, that's you know what you spent. 527 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: You spent a long time, right, you raised him from 528 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: these little and then they become this, and then it's 529 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: you're you're buying them three wheelers, and then you know, dolls, 530 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: and then cell phones and then and then off they go. 531 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I will tell you this, though parents 532 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: get smarter the older the kids get. I've learned that. 533 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how that that. That's what happened with me. 534 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: My mother got my mother got smarter the older I got. 535 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out where she went to college. Zero zero. 536 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm run any of the car doctor. I'll be back 537 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: right after this day. I got it. Hey, charging hard 538 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: towards the top of the hour, running any of the 539 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: car doctor here at five five, five six zero nine 540 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Let's go and talk to Bob in Mahwah, 541 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: New Jersey. Here today gone to mahwa two thousand five 542 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: Dodgs Dakota. Bob. Welcome to the car Doctor, sir, How 543 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: can I help? Hey? Ron, thanks so much. Yeah, I 544 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: got two thousand, five four point seven liter the eight 545 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: with a hundred thousand miles on it and let me 546 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: just preface this conversation by saying that my dad was 547 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: a mechanic and he always said kids don't be a 548 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: parts changer. And I'm afraid I've become a parts changer. Now, 549 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: let's see what we cat you out of that habit 550 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: go alright, well, I appreciate that. It So anyway, a 551 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, is my kids truck. He drives 552 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: it back and forth over there to Mawah High School. Um, 553 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: he's driving it up and down the hills in town 554 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the high tempt light comes 555 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: on for the transmission. So, um, you know the car 556 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: have been well maintained. Was my dad's car before my kids. 557 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: And what I did was I pulled it in and 558 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: checked the level of the fluid. Fluid was good, he 559 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: was a little dark, so I figured it was time 560 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: to change that. And I also went online and they said, 561 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, it might be time to change a radiator 562 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: on that because they're supposed to like lose efficiency the 563 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: second cooling coil in the radiator that helps out the 564 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: trans cool right. Yeah, it's a combination of it's it's 565 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a which I don't know what 566 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: genius ever decided to condense trans cooler radiator and shove 567 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: everything together. But yes, that is correct. It's it's um 568 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: let's save some money and make it worse. Go ahead. Yeah, 569 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, I went out. I bought a Denzo radiator, 570 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: which is a pretty good name for that, right, put 571 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: that in. I also changed the change the fluid. I 572 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: put a wick fluid in there. I'll tell you, change 573 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: in the training fluid on That was was no mean trick. 574 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: Had to drop this cross member. It took me about 575 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: two hours to get it back in. Anyway, I get 576 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: I get it all put back together. My my son 577 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: takes it for a drive and the lake comes on 578 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: ten minutes later. And so so then, being the true 579 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: parts changes that I am, I go out and I 580 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: buy a aftermarket training cooler. Kids, I put one big 581 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: enough for a mobile home, you know. So I slapped 582 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: that on the front of this uh on the front 583 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: of his Dodge of DA CODEA too. And the light 584 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: is still coming on. And I was wondering if you 585 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: had any suggestions, Well know issue, Well, yeah, I mean, 586 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: what what makes you think that the computers telling you 587 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: the truth? You know what? You know let's let's let's 588 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: think about it from that perspective. This is a sensor 589 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the transpan and it's it's it's 590 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: read through the There's a ten plug connector on the 591 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: right side of the case. If it's the trans I'm 592 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: thinking of, and they've got some known issues with that plug, 593 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: and you know, everything from this could be. This could 594 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: be a bad sensor to corrosion inside that ten plug pigtail, 595 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: to a wiring harness issue, to a bad PCM to 596 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, pick your best um. This is a zero 597 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: to five vaults there mr uh temp sensor. That's that's um. 598 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: Actually I think that back. It's not a thir mr um, 599 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: but it's a zero to five old sensor that is 600 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: going to you know, change the voltage signal based on 601 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: temperature um. So yeah, it's it's do this take this bullow. 602 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a bulletin number because we're gonna 603 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: be up against the clock real quick. There's a bullet 604 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: and I want you to get your hands on twenty 605 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: one dash double oh nine dash show five. That's from 606 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: christ So that talks about problems they see various trouble 607 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: codes that they see with this transmission for faults with 608 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: the ten way wiring pigtail harness on the right side 609 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: of the case, and it gives it gives you repair 610 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: procedure for that. I'm not saying that's the problem, but 611 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: that is something to stop and consider, all right, that 612 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: you don't just, you know, blindly continue to change parts. 613 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: And then the other side of this conversation is when 614 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: the light is on, how hot is the trans fluid? Yeah, 615 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. You know. I never really checked 616 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: to see how hot the transfluid was, which was right. 617 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: So I'll tell you what. Stay right where you are, Bob. 618 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: Let me pull over and take this pause. When we 619 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: come back, we'll finish this call. Ron and Nating and 620 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We're both coming back right after this. 621 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Let's welcome backing the car doctor. Bob. You're still there, sir. 622 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: So you know, let's let's I mean, when the light 623 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: comes on, how long has it been driving? Is it 624 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: coming on in the first two minutes of driving, ten 625 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: minutes of driving, twenty minutes of driving? Yeah, that's the 626 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: whole thing. It's intermittent. You know, it comes in, it 627 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: goes and you know what I did was the first 628 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: thing I did was they checked it for codes, and 629 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: it's not putting any hard codes, right right, Well, let's 630 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: not let's let's not wait for a hard code to happen. 631 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Let's just let's attack it from the perspective of um, 632 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, how about we look at temperature on a 633 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: scan tool and and and monitor and let him take 634 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: it for a rod and you know, let's let's see 635 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: where it is if if if all of a sudden 636 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: engine temperature, engine temperature is normal, but trans temperature spikes up, uh, 637 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, and then it drops down, but the lights 638 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: staying on? Do I have an issue? Because I believe 639 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: the light stays on at once the temperature hits that 640 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: point until it resets by cycle of the key. So 641 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, it could be an intermittent open or an 642 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: intermittent spike in temperature as as it's sees by a 643 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: bad sensor and then all of a sudden, Um, you know, 644 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: it's it's not really there. So the question becomes how 645 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: high or how hot is the temperature actually getting? And 646 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: you know that's that's step one. Worst case scenario. You 647 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: gotta go out and buy more tools. Maybe go out 648 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: and buy a little thermal gun or a heat gun 649 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: and you know, just an infrared gun and how hot 650 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: the trans case when it happens. Uh yeah, well let's listen. 651 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: But if I can get you to buy more tools, 652 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: I can get you to be less of a parts changer. 653 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: Dad would be proud of you. Right, So it's it's 654 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: we're just trying to help you in your image. Um, 655 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: so you had a second question. Yeah, and Nicol today, 656 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: let me ask you real quick about my nineteen sixty 657 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: four CADILLACSA Dandville. It just bought it, okay, It was 658 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: a one owner car, four twenty nine cubic inches, forty 659 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: six thousand original miles on it, right, sat for two 660 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, just got it back on the road 661 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: and changed all the bells, hoses, fluids, everything back up 662 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: and run. And the one thing that isn't working is 663 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: the air conditioning. Yeah right, So so the air conditioning line, 664 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: the line that runs from the expansion valve over to 665 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: the accumulator is raped by the battery terminal for whatever reason. 666 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: And it had a hole in it. Now I had 667 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: a hole in it. So I guess somebody like you know, 668 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: like a like a wrench grounded against it and it 669 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: blew a hole in the line, right, I'm just wondering. 670 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: I found the new line was one guy in North 671 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: Carolina shipping it up. But I mean the fact that 672 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: the system was open for all these years. Are they 673 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to like purge all the oil from it? 674 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: What are they gonna have to do? And is it 675 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: going to be expensive? It's gonna be expensive. It's it's 676 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: it's a vintage are and if it's done right, it's 677 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: got to be you know, it's it's not about expensive, 678 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: it's about doing it right. So at the very least, 679 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: they've got to run some kind of a flush through 680 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: it to clean everything out. They should change the dryer, 681 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: the you know sometimes it's called an expansion tank and 682 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: accumulator receiver dryer or whatever. Um. That should get replaced 683 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: oil level, and the compressor should be checked hand cranked 684 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: the compressor around a couple of times. Be prepared to 685 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: add some refrigerant I'm sorry, some oil to the system 686 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: to make sure it's got enough. And then the question 687 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: becomes de converted to one thirty four do you leave 688 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: the old R twelve in it? Um that I leave 689 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: up to you? Remember R twelve are one thirty four 690 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: doesn't work as well in an R twelve system because 691 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: their non barrier hoses. Good luck to you, Bob on 692 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: all fronts on Marnini and the Car Doctor. The mechanics 693 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless.