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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, man, He's a literal titan across

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Speaker 2: the entire media landscape.

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Speaker 3: To Grace's planet, there.

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Speaker 1: Got a bed with a voice that sounds like Verry White,

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Speaker 1: and be got to say, Hey, let's do it, baby.

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Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo.

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Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is you are about to embark

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Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as

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Speaker 1: psychological nudity.

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Speaker 3: This is Stu Box and this is Stupidity. Here we go,

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Speaker 3: Jim Hoy, Welcome into.

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Speaker 2: Another episode of Stupotoity, the biggest podcast in the world.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to you.

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Speaker 2: Please subscribe, rate and review unsubscribed, resubscribe, re review. Listening

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Speaker 2: as always is optional. Mikey biggest podcasts in the world,

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Speaker 2: except if you ask Barrett Media.

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Speaker 3: They released their.

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Speaker 2: Top twenty original sports podcast of twenty to twenty and

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Speaker 2: I am not certain as to whether we finished one,

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Speaker 2: b or eighteenth.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Considering on this list, we're between seventeen and nineteen. I

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Speaker 5: think he's got us at eighteen. But I don't get it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a little insulted.

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Speaker 2: Listen, we only do it once a week. Some of

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Speaker 2: those other podcasts are like three four day a week podcast.

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Speaker 2: Dan and I did not qualify because of twenty to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Our podcast, well just a repurposed version of our show.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that will change in twenty twenty. One will

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Speaker 2: be number one, Stupotty will be one B. We'll repeat

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Speaker 2: at one B. Okay, but you're reading that as eighteen

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Speaker 2: and I'm reading it as a tie for first, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's that's how I read it.

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Speaker 4: I mean we should be.

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm looking at some of I mean Rascillo,

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Speaker 5: Rescillo behind her Sillow, who is seventeenth, who's one egg?

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Speaker 4: Who is seventeen? Who is seventeen? Is Adnan? We're below

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Speaker 4: ad Man. I'm done, I'm done, I quit the business.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking cinephile or Adnan doesn't know?

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Speaker 4: The GM shuffle with Michael Lombardi and ad Nan Vert.

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Speaker 3: Well, that sounds gonna get him both on the show.

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Speaker 4: Please please don't, no.

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Speaker 2: No, no, get in and get Lombardi on the show.

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Speaker 2: And well we're at it, get Jason Barrett on the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay. He's a friend of mine, Barrett Media.

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Speaker 2: I like him a lot, and he says a lot

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Speaker 2: of positive stuff about me and our show. But I

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Speaker 2: am outraged by eighteenth. Okay, get him on. Okay, And

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Speaker 2: then here's a listen, this is a big job. Everyone

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Speaker 2: he ranked ahead of us, Get them all on the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Okay, boy, there's some names here, one offter woj I know,

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Speaker 5: well one of those that I was gonna say.

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Speaker 3: One of those names is Adam Schefter.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you you what Schefter had

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Speaker 2: to say yesterday about the Jets quarterback. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in the second. And by the way, Chris Sims

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Speaker 2: is gonna join us on this week's episode of Stupidity.

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Speaker 2: I love him, He's a friend. He breaks down quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: as well as anyone I've ever met, and there's certainly

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Speaker 5: But what he got my So, I'm looking at this

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Speaker 4: It's posed to getting all these people on. How about

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Speaker 4: I just get you Caliendo.

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Speaker 5: Done, Marty Smith, Marty Smith, I love Marty, We're better,

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Speaker 5: you know what.

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Speaker 3: I Listen, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start asking ESPN people to come on this podcast,

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Speaker 2: and I wouldna dare them to say no, Like that's

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Speaker 2: what if I Schefter is gonna be first.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna start offering them home and homes.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, listen.

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Speaker 4: You know that people are of their podcasts.

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Speaker 3: But here's Oh, I don't think I can go on

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Speaker 2: But you're telling me if Adam Schefter goes to his bought,

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Speaker 2: does Adam Schefter even need to go to his boss

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Speaker 2: and say I'm going on Stupidity?

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Speaker 3: He doesn't need that.

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Speaker 4: What are they gonna do to Schefter? I suspend him

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Speaker 4: for a week?

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Speaker 3: Sims? What do you think about.

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Speaker 4: Before Watson News breaks and Wentz Sims?

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Speaker 2: Do you think Schefter needs to get anyone's approval to

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Speaker 3: Now that I'm no longer on ESPN. It's nice to

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Speaker 3: see you, by the way, you look great.

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Speaker 6: Hey, well, thank you, I know I look great. It's

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Speaker 6: great to see you as always. Uh, but yes, he

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Speaker 6: definitely needs approval to get on stupidity, There's no doubt

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Speaker 6: about it. Yes, I will actually wait, really, are you

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Speaker 6: run by ESPN anymore? I don't even know who the

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Speaker 6: hell you're with or who's running your damn podcast.

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Speaker 3: Lebator it is. We're in a pirate face.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're just like sailing around the waters looking

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Speaker 2: for land, Sims.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're doing. No, no way, no way.

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Speaker 6: Is he gonna be allowed on your podcast? No freaking bay.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so Schefter used to appear frequently on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: You're maintaining now that I'm no longer with ESPN that

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Speaker 2: there is no ESPN is going to approve anyone on

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 6: No way, There's absolutely no way. I ESPN is so

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Speaker 6: horrible with sharing their talent or doing anything like that.

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Speaker 6: I have a no ESPN rule to say, screw you,

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Speaker 6: ESPN up yours. I'm not doing your crap either. I

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Speaker 6: have ESPN Radio call me all the time. Lebantards, dugotts.

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Speaker 6: You guys are the only ESPN people I have done

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Speaker 6: really over the last four or five years. The hell

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we love you, Sims.

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Speaker 5: We love you how you considering I produced a lot

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Speaker 5: of those other things.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: I want you to play the sound because we did

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Speaker 2: top ten Sounds in Stupidity History, and you'll be happy

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Speaker 2: to know your father finished in the top five. Mikey A,

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Speaker 2: play the sound that got Phil Sims into our Top

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Speaker 2: five Sounds in Stupidity History, the eighteenth ranked podcast in

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Speaker 2: the world, according to Jason Barrett.

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Speaker 6: Punch him in a face, Mikey.

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Speaker 3: Do you have the long version of it?

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Speaker 2: Because Phil was like it was right after the open

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Speaker 2: and Phil was hurry. He was already attacking our producers

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Speaker 2: and everyone. So, uh, your dad's got a nasty temper.

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Speaker 2: I want Mikey A to get the long version of this.

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Speaker 2: Uh you and your dad. But I was listening back

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Speaker 2: to that episode. It was great before we played, Mikey A,

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Speaker 2: your dad, Like, I thought, the funniest thing about that

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Speaker 2: is your dad saying, Chris, I'm gonna punch in the face. Chris,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna punch you in the face. Producer coulda punch

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Speaker 2: the face. Chris couldna puch in the face.

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Speaker 3: And then you reveal to all of us you and

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Speaker 3: your dad never fights.

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Speaker 6: Never like never fight, Like I very rarely have even

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Speaker 6: really seen him get pissed off other than maybe a

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Speaker 6: few times and my whole life. Like really, I'm not joking,

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Speaker 6: like three or four times where he's gotten angry at him.

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Speaker 6: I think, WHOA, I never saw that. And I think, legitimately,

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Speaker 6: I think that legitimately got underneath the skin just a

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Speaker 6: the same time it was a joke.

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Speaker 2: I will not take responsibility for it. That was our producer,

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Speaker 2: even though I listened to it before it had approved it.

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Speaker 2: But Mikey, he played the sound that sethel sends off.

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Speaker 5: By the way, what it was was he got replaced

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Speaker 5: by somebody.

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Speaker 4: That won broadcast.

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Speaker 2: That's what it was, which led to this show.

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Speaker 6: I want to faith.

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Speaker 3: Course he's joking everybody.

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Speaker 6: Seriously, Dad, what's the last time you and I have

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Speaker 3: In an argument?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't remember. No, I mean you

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Why why why?

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Speaker 3: Because you'll punch him in the face though he cats.

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Speaker 6: Off quick, you know, cutaway, baby, Oh my goodness, punch

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, congratulations to the Sims.

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Speaker 4: She's still there, yes, sir, oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: So when I watch you you're doing your show tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: He's the best.

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Speaker 6: It's a side that not everybody knows him. My dad

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Speaker 6: for sure. You know it's you see him on CBS

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Speaker 6: and he's got his blazer on. He talks all proper.

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Speaker 6: But my dad can shoot this ship and talk ship

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Speaker 6: as good as anybody as that I've ever been around.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the last time he got manned at anything?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: No, you know what, Like he handles all those things

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Speaker 6: like real life dejection or anything like that. Man, he's

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Speaker 6: the perfect father to look up to to go wow,

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Speaker 6: that's how you handle that, That's how you get back up. Sure, gosh.

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Speaker 6: The last time he got really pissed off was really

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Speaker 6: probably when my mom or my sister spent too much

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Speaker 6: wanting to look at the check book and pay the

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Speaker 6: Wait till tomorrow to look at the check book? Like

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Speaker 3: No? No, you could swear. It's encouraged by the way.

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Speaker 3: Why Christmas morning though?

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Speaker 6: What does he say?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what.

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Speaker 6: It's like. He wants to get himself like redded up,

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Speaker 6: like he's seen what they bought and now he wants

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Speaker 6: to check on what it all costs. He did it

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Speaker 6: a lot of times. I mean a lot, not only

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Speaker 6: and maybe spend Christmas evenight at my mom and dad's

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Speaker 6: house up in New Jersey. There was still a few

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Speaker 6: times in my twenties where he was doing it. But

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Speaker 6: that's just Big Phil who knows who the hell does.

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Speaker 3: A Christmas Day tradition?

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Speaker 2: Unlike any others there, check the balance and the checking again, Chris,

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Speaker 2: help me out here, Chris Simms, I think you evaluate

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks better than anyone.

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Speaker 3: You've done it on our show. You're fantastic with it.

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Speaker 2: I have now listen, if you tell me that he

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Speaker 2: played well, then I will finally succumb to all the

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Speaker 2: So this is why I love talking to you, Vidavella,

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Speaker 3: We have no idea what we're watching. Every weekend.

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Speaker 2: Vitavea had one tackle, Yet I have people telling me,

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Speaker 6: I like that, No, no doubt, right, Vita Veya. You know,

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Speaker 6: Most coaches would pick them the top two or three

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Speaker 6: The stats aren't gonna look good, but it's because oh

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Speaker 6: That's what those guys are.

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Speaker 2: Chris sims with us, all right, right, you can't you

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Speaker 2: retired in twenty and ten. If I told you when

438
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Speaker 2: you're retired in two thousand and ten that this motherfucker

439
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Speaker 2: would still be playing football and he would win his

440
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Speaker 2: seventh Super Bowl for another team, you would have said

441
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Speaker 2: what back then?

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Speaker 6: No way, not in twenty ten, Because twenty ten Tom

443
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 6: Brady was not that special. I know. That's the other

444
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 6: thing I'd like to say about it now, you know

445
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Speaker 6: one hey, yeah, Envisioning anybody to play after the career

446
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 6: he had already had in twenty ten, it was already special.

447
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 6: To think he'll have the drive and motivation to be

448
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 6: able to stay healthy for another ten years and go

449
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 6: on that type of run. I mean, that's really special.

450
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Speaker 6: It's amazing. It is a credit to him. Where I

451
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 6: more amazed than anything is. You know, he won the

452
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Speaker 6: first three Super Bowls, he lost to the Giants, right

453
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Speaker 6: that twenty seven team. He tears his acl. He comes

454
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Speaker 6: back and he's a good player, but not a great player.

455
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Speaker 6: For a number of years in my opinion. You know,

456
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 6: I got a lot of people are yelling at me,

457
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 6: what is you? Because I started going, Brady is not

458
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 6: a top five quarterback anymore. I started saying that. Listen.

459
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Speaker 6: They drafted Jimmy Garoppolo in the twenty fourteen draft not

460
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Speaker 6: because they thought Brady had five more awesome years in him,

461
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 6: because they were going, man, the way he looked in

462
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Speaker 6: twenty thirteen was a little scary. We need to start

463
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Speaker 6: thinking the future. If you remember, in twenty thirteen, they

464
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Speaker 6: played in the AFC Championship Game against the Denver Broncos,

465
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Speaker 6: who went to get blown out by the Seahawks and

466
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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. But in that game, and this still

467
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Speaker 6: is a huge moment for me in my life as

468
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Speaker 6: a football evaluate or anything, the Broncos literally begged Tom

469
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Speaker 6: Brady to beat them in that game. They played a

470
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Speaker 6: defense all game to say we're not gonna let le

471
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Speaker 6: Garrett Blunt and the run game beat us, and Brady

472
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 6: was really average, and that led the Patriots to drafting

473
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Speaker 6: Jimmy Garoppolo. And really, it's like from that point on

474
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Speaker 6: he turned his career around and was like, no, fuck you,

475
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Speaker 6: New England, You're not replacing me, I'm not gonna become

476
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Speaker 6: dink and dunk Tom Brady anymore. I'm gonna start pushing

477
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Speaker 6: the ball down the field. And that's what I'm amazed by.

478
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Speaker 6: I really think he's better now than he was in

479
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Speaker 6: twenty twelve, which is insane to say that.

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Speaker 2: I think the incredible thing he chose wisely because this

481
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Speaker 2: team is young, this team is good. This team has

482
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Speaker 2: a great defense, this team has a running game, a

483
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Speaker 2: good offensive line, like Chris. If he wins a couple

484
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Speaker 2: of more here, you're not gonna be surprised, right.

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Speaker 6: I know. I mean you said there's not a weakness

486
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Speaker 6: of their football team, you know, really the only question

487
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Speaker 6: we had about the team. And you know, and I'm

488
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Speaker 6: not trying to pat myself in the back, but like

489
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Speaker 6: around week five or week six, I started saying, man,

490
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Speaker 6: when the Bucks played good football, they look like they

491
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 6: could be the best team in football. It was just

492
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 6: they could get it all together and be consistent on

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Speaker 6: a week to week basis. They did that. A lot

494
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Speaker 6: of that credit goes to Brady. But yes, you know,

495
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Speaker 6: Brady picked the right team. He wanted to go to

496
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Speaker 6: the forty nine ers. After that, it was the Buccaneers

497
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 6: because he knew, damn those teams are set up and

498
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Speaker 6: they can protect me to where I can throw the

499
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Speaker 6: football and not have to worry about being hit, and

500
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 6: I have weapons and all those type of things, And that,

501
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 6: to me was the brilliance of what they did. They

502
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Speaker 6: ran the ball, and as the year went on, it

503
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 6: was just play action pass, protect Brady and he'll throw

504
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 6: lasers around the field. And I would be shocked if

505
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Speaker 6: they're not writing the thick of things again next year.

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Speaker 6: So you got it.

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Speaker 2: It's unfucking believable. Chris Sims with us here on Stupidity.

508
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Speaker 2: Check him out Unbuttoned podcast, NBC Sports. NFL analyst does

509
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: a great job also co host of Pro Football Talk

510
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: Live along with Mike Florio. It is like, I cannot

511
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Speaker 2: believe that I'm still sitting here because as a Jet fan,

512
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: I had to deal with Brady for nineteen years and

513
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: the fact that he's now at a new conference at

514
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: still winning super Bowls. Like Dan and I were discussing this,

515
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Speaker 2: So I wonder, because you know, people like who took

516
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: that the worst? Was it Belichick watching that game unfold?

517
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 2: Was it Jameis Winston? Was it Belichick? Like who had

518
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: the hardest time watching Brady do that.

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Speaker 6: I think Aaron Rodgers, Oh god, that's great, you're right.

520
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 6: I think Aaron Rodgers was like probably going, man, what

521
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Speaker 6: are you kidding me? I outplayed him in the NFC

522
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Speaker 6: Championship game. He still gets to go to the super Bowl.

523
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Speaker 6: And then he goes to the Super Bowl and he's

524
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Speaker 6: probably going and the Chiefs are a wreck. You know,

525
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 6: Andy Reid and his son got issues. Mahomes isn't healthy,

526
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Speaker 6: the offensive lines beating up, and he was probably sitting

527
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Speaker 6: there at home, going, man, we probably would have won

528
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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl this year. I thought of Aaron Rodgers,

529
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Speaker 6: of course, I thought of I thought of Belichick. I

530
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Speaker 6: thought of Peyton Manning. Those are the guys I think

531
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Speaker 6: of because they're just like, oh, crap, gosh, he's gonna

532
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Speaker 6: win another one and now he's got three times more

533
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Speaker 6: super Bowls than me, and that kind of crap.

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Speaker 3: Well, Peyton had the one.

535
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Speaker 2: The only thing Peyton had on him was he had

536
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Speaker 2: won for two different franchises.

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Speaker 6: Right that gone, no more, no more.

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Speaker 3: But you've done.

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Speaker 2: You coached for a year, right you coached in New

540
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Speaker 2: England for a year, coaching assistant, So you know Belichick. Belichick,

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine he handled this fart like internally, he

542
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Speaker 2: must be like Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 6: I think I think he handles it a lot better

544
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Speaker 6: than you would realize. And again I can't speak well

545
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Speaker 6: I do. I don't think Bill gets caught up in

546
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Speaker 6: personal shit like that.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 6: He's such a robot and a curmudgeon and state of

549
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 6: the task. I mean, listen, he molded Brady and the Patriots,

550
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 6: and the way Brady is is because of Bill Belichick. Hey,

551
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 6: next play, be focused, be detailed, be tough, you know,

552
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 6: shut the noise out. That's all New England stuff. I

553
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 6: mean that State started that, and he's the same way.

554
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 6: He's not going to get caught up in the rivalry

555
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Speaker 6: with Brady and all that. I just don't know him

556
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Speaker 6: to be like that. The Patriots. The one thing that

557
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 6: I really jumped out to me when I was there,

558
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 6: and this is Brady included. How do I want to

559
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 6: say this? They internally motivated. They didn't externally motivate it.

560
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 6: They weren't always like, oh this guy said this fuck

561
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 6: this team and we're gonna beat them this week. They

562
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 6: were more like, we need to get better, and that

563
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 6: was a bad game we played, and what are we

564
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Speaker 6: going to do to get better? What am I gonna

565
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Speaker 6: do to get better? That's their approach, And I have

566
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Speaker 6: a hard time thinking Belichick wouldn't have been a little

567
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Speaker 6: bit happy for Brady. I don't think he takes it personal.

568
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Speaker 2: I really don't, all right, And that's that's very cool

569
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Speaker 2: to hear. How they you know, internally they're driving themselves.

570
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Speaker 2: They're not using the bulletin.

571
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Speaker 3: Board material that we that we fall in love with

572
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Speaker 3: his fans, right right? That's interesting.

573
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Speaker 2: Can you speak to the year you spent coaching there?

574
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Speaker 2: Can you speak to what it is? Because I'm marveled.

575
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Speaker 2: I hate that this is happening to me. Mikey, Hey,

576
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Speaker 2: has this happened to you? Where I'm starting to appreciate

577
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: and like Tom Brady, perhaps because he's out of our division,

578
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: but just the way he leads, the way he goes

579
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Speaker 2: up to defensive players after the game and he tells

580
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Speaker 2: Shaq Barrett, I'm so happy for you because he delivered

581
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: in a super Bowl. Like can you describe what type

582
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: of leader he is in the one year you spent

583
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Speaker 2: with him?

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Speaker 3: Is it possible to articulate?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? No, definitely, I mean, you know, I was there

586
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 6: for seventeen or eighteen months. First off, he's a great guy.

587
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 6: He's a great human being, you know, other than the flategate,

588
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 6: he's about perfect. Okay, all right, but but you know,

589
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 6: he's got a great way with people. That's the first

590
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 6: thing I'll say about Tom Brady. He's got kindness in

591
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 6: his eyes. You know when you see him, when you

592
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 6: meet him, you just feel like, hey, I'm meeting the

593
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 6: good guy. He wants to listen to you and talk.

594
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 6: He's like that with the whole locker room. He's like

595
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Speaker 6: that with everybody. So he doesn't big time anybody. And

596
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 6: I think what I appreciated just seeing him work and

597
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 6: do his craft is you know, of course, was one

598
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Speaker 6: of the first guys in the building every day and

599
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 6: wasn't about me. Me. Me just went in a room

600
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 6: and started working, watching film and wasn't like, hey, guys,

601
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 6: look I'm here, I'm out working everybody or anything like that,

602
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 6: you know. And then when he got on the field,

603
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 6: it was business. But he had a great way of

604
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 6: bringing juice and some life to the team too. You know,

605
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 6: you'd be he'd be throwing to the receivers and just

606
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 6: kind of a warm up part of practice, but he'd

607
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 6: be like, oh yeah, I'm throwing lasers today. You guys

608
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 6: ready to catch that? And that gets everybody going the rep.

609
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 6: Then all of a sudden, the wide receivers are kind

610
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 6: of like, oh break, oh yeah, you throw lasers today, Tom,

611
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 6: and then and then all of a sudden practice becomes better.

612
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 6: That's the greatness of Brady to me, right there, let alone.

613
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 6: When he needs somebody does something wrong, he can motherfuck

614
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: them in a second. But he's got a great way

615
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 6: of like, hey, that was impersonal. We're trying to get

616
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 6: better here on the field. This is about football. We'll

617
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 6: go hang out later and I'll kiss you and hug you,

618
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 6: but fuck you, that was a bad play right there. Now,

619
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Speaker 6: let's move on. And that's the way he is, and

620
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 6: that's what makes him great to me.

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Speaker 2: I love that it's making everyone feel important. And then

622
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: the stuff that he does, like what he did for

623
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: Antonio Brown and the way he stuck up for him

624
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: and stood by his side.

625
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: Listen, you might not like Antonio Brown.

626
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: You might think that Antonio Brown has no business playing

627
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL, But what that does in a locker room, Chris,

628
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: it buys Brady so much because guys say to themselves, look,

629
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: he did that for Antonio.

630
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Speaker 3: He did that for me too, you know.

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Speaker 6: No doubt, No mean, he doesn't judge people. He's gonna

632
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 6: judge it for himself. He's not gonna judge it off

633
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 6: of I read an article or this guy said this.

634
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 6: And the one thing he could hit it off with

635
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 6: with Antonio Brown is they're psycho obsessed about football, so

636
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 6: they have that to be able to talk about and

637
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 6: and oh, hey, let's go work and do that. But

638
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 6: you're right to Stu Gotts. It's major street cred in

639
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 6: the locker room when guys see that. You know, hey,

640
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 6: here's Tom Brady helping out an African American player who's yeah,

641
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 6: done some crazy shit. And certainly, yeah, we all need

642
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 6: to question him a little bit. But he's got, you know,

643
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 6: the kind spot in his heart to kind of take

644
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 6: him under his wing and try to get him back

645
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 6: going back in the right direction. Let alone, he wants

646
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 6: him to help him on the football field. So it

647
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 6: was a win win situation.

648
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Speaker 3: Mikey is fucking furious to me right now.

649
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Speaker 4: Did you are you praising Brady?

650
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Speaker 5: Are you sitting here talking about the greatness of Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: Now, who are you? This motherfucker did it to.

652
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Speaker 5: Us for two decades and now you're like a man,

653
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Speaker 5: what a leader because he's not doing it to us anymore.

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Speaker 6: Well, we're not good enough, man, that's your guys. Issuear.

655
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Speaker 6: I'm not a I'm the giants man. I mean we're

656
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Speaker 6: doing all the SuperMansion, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Chris, you're doing your job, You're doing everything great.

658
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Speaker 4: I'm just this guy is sitting here next to going yeah, yeah, yeah,

659
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Speaker 4: Tom Brady is so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: This is what's even funnier as most people, Mike think

662
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Speaker 6: I'm a Brady hater because, you know, I don't say

663
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Speaker 6: he's the greatest of all time all the time. I

664
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Speaker 6: do say he's guilty of the play gate, you know,

665
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Speaker 6: I don't let him off the hook for that time

666
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 6: of stuff. I think he's amazing. I think he's the

667
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 6: clutchest quarterback ever, you know, leader, general, everything like that.

668
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 6: You know. But a lot of people think I'm a

669
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Speaker 6: hater because I won't say he's the greatest player, greatest

670
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 6: of all time that I've ever seen, most accomplished. Yes, definitely,

671
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Speaker 6: but let's not forget he got to win three Super

672
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Speaker 6: Bowls with playing defense and running. He threw for one

673
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Speaker 6: hundred and forty five yards and one touchdown and became

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Speaker 6: an MVP of a Super Bowl high law had that.

675
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, they're just he's been. He's had

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Speaker 6: the benefit of that very good team, and like Stu

677
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Speaker 6: Gott's mentioned, he picked a team that was extremely talented

678
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Speaker 6: this year to go to. And I'm not trying to

679
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Speaker 6: take anything away from him, but what I get sick

680
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 6: of with the Brady stuff sometimes is just the we

681
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 6: act like nobody else was on the football team. Like

682
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Speaker 6: it just he tackled, he caught, he called the plays,

683
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Speaker 6: and I just I get worn out by that stuff.

684
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Speaker 2: It's not Brady doesn't act like that. That's the cool

685
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: thing about Brady.

686
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Speaker 3: Sorry, my favorite.

687
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Speaker 4: You know, no wonder we're eighteenth.

688
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you it's the time he came on stupidity.

689
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: That's that's what did it to me.

690
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, hey, and you like, would you stop fucking asking.

691
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 6: Me to come on four minutes before the show started,

692
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 6: can you come on to it? Can you come on

693
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: the podcast in seven minutes?

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Speaker 2: I mike y yay, Chris, I told him, I told

695
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: him Mikey, Hey, Chris is gonna be furious with me

696
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: because I always wait till the last minute. In fact, Uh, Mikey,

697
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Speaker 2: a play the sound of what Chris Sims like when

698
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: Chris Sims gets a text from me asking him to

699
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: come on the podcast fourteen minutes before we go to air.

700
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: Uh to play for the audience what Chris Simms is thinking,

701
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: but play it in his dad's voice.

702
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: Listen from now on.

703
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna text you because I text STU got a

704
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 5: week out, like, hey, let's get Chris next week, and

705
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 5: he'll be like, yeah, yeah, we'll do that. And then

706
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Speaker 5: I'm texting him all week. Hey, so Sims ready two

707
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: o'clock maybe Tuesday, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be fine, He'll

708
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 5: be fine. And then all of a sudden he text

709
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: me Monday night, Hey, I gotta call Sims. I gotta

710
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: ask Mike please.

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Speaker 6: Last time he asked me the night before, which I

712
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 6: was like, okay, that's good. I can move some things

713
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 6: around and I'll make it work. So I moved some

714
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 6: things around for a one o'clock appearance on the podcast.

715
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Speaker 6: He text me at twelve fifty, Hey, I can't do it.

716
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be late. Can you do it a little later?

717
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 6: I'm like, no, I fucking moved my day around and

718
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 6: now I'm packed later in the day because of you,

719
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Speaker 6: dick face.

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Speaker 5: Listen, I'll text you from now on, but I gotta

721
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 5: tell you, for a while, it wasn't just his fault.

722
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: You know, I would text you and I would get

723
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: nothing back because I was ESPN Radio.

724
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Speaker 6: You're probably right, though you're probably right, I don't know

725
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Speaker 6: if I actually I don't know if I associated you

726
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Speaker 6: with him, maybe at first, So that's my fault, certainly,

727
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 6: not personally you, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Ni christ. I want to go very very quickly with you.

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Speaker 2: First, I'm gonna do the call guys, and we'll get

730
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: to the NFL guys, because I think you're the best

731
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Speaker 2: in the business at this. Okay, so we'll ranitzatsat on quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: But first let's like, have you watched enough of the

733
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Speaker 2: college guys? So I'll start with Justin Fields? What do

734
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Speaker 2: you think of Justin Fields?

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Speaker 6: Have me on in another month and I'll really be

736
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 6: able to break them down. Okay, because this is my

737
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 6: week world, I'll start to get into draft and free agency.

738
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Speaker 6: But I listen, I've seen enough sto well.

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Speaker 3: No, I can go the other route with you.

740
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Speaker 2: What I was gonna do was just name a quarterback

741
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Speaker 2: and where you think he's gonna play, like current NFL quarterback,

742
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Speaker 2: and where you think he'll be playing Week one next year.

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Speaker 6: Let's see, right, Well, I can give you a little bit.

744
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 6: We can talk about the college kids, and we can

745
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 6: see where it goes. You know, at least what you

746
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 6: know a month from now, and I'll tell you how

747
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 6: it's evaluating. Whatever you want you let me know.

748
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Speaker 2: All right, let's quickly start that with Justin Fields because

749
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Speaker 2: I'm interested in him because the Jets have the number

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Speaker 2: two pick and that might be a guy that they

751
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: end up taking.

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Speaker 6: So no, no doubt. I mean big straw like a

753
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott, right, but I think maybe even a little

754
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 6: bit more athletic and maybe a more of a naturally

755
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 6: gifted powerful arm than Dak Prescott. Now I don't think

756
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 6: he he controls the ball and is as accurate as Prescott.

757
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 6: He is one little thing that worries me, a little

758
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 6: stew gotts. He does this what I would call elbow first,

759
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 6: where he gets it like this to cock it, and

760
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 6: then he comes back to throw it. You don't see

761
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 6: Brady do that, right. You don't see Aaron Rodgers put

762
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Speaker 6: their elbow up and then try. And that's why in

763
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 6: the National Championship game, in my opinion, why you saw

764
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 6: some balls that were a little off target and things

765
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Speaker 6: like that. That's my only concern. But the athlete, the

766
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 6: power in the arm, you know, the leader, all those

767
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 6: things I like so far just from TV scouting, are

768
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Speaker 6: you as.

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Speaker 3: High on Trevor Lawrence as everyone else's?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think Trevor Lawrence is slam dunk the number

771
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Speaker 6: one pick. There's no doubt about that. Now where I'll

772
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 6: say where like people are like sometimes overstating it. Listen,

773
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Speaker 6: I got a hard time saying he's gonna be much

774
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Speaker 6: better than Justin Herbert. I was a huge Justin Herbert

775
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 6: fan last year. To me, he's the same kind of guy,

776
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Speaker 6: big arm, way, really good athlete that you don't expect

777
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 6: because it's some big, tall, lanky white guy. But then

778
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 6: all of a sudden he turns it on. You're like,

779
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 6: whoa he can go. I'm a big friend benit. Trevor

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Speaker 6: Lawrence definitely the number one pick. There's no doubt about that.

781
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 3: All right, Do you see enough of Zach Wilson or no.

782
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like Zach Wilson slick. He's the guy I

783
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 6: would look at too for your number two with the Jets.

784
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 6: I would think he'd be in this running with Justin Fields.

785
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 6: Really unreal athlete as slick as I've seen anybody come

786
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 6: out of college so far with the ball. What I

787
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 6: mean by that, you know, just like the little flick

788
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 6: passes and oh I'm on the run, throwing its side

789
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 6: arhim and doing things like that. All awesome. It's as

790
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 6: good as I've seen as far as that stuff since

791
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 6: Mahome's coming out of college. But I'll say, really like

792
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 6: it's as far as the slickness with the ball, different

793
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 6: deliveries of being a wheeler dealer that way, but not

794
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 6: the arm strength Mahomes has. And that's the one thing

795
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 6: that I want to see. Throws a pretty ball. It's accurate.

796
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 6: I just don't know how special his arm is yet.

797
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 6: I just I would like to dive in a little

798
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 6: deeper there, and like I said, a month from now,

799
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Speaker 6: I'll be able to tell you that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. We'll do the NFL quarterbacks

801
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: and we'll get you out of here. We appreciate the time.

802
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: As always, check Chris out on Button podcast, NBC Sports

803
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: NFL Analysts co host with Mike Florio of Pro Football

804
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: Talk Live, and a Friend does a tremendous job. I'm

805
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: gonna name a quarterback. You tell me where you think

806
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: he's gonna be playing next year. Week one, mikey A,

807
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: you will break it up with a sounder after Chris

808
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: Sims is done talking.

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00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: Please, Okay, we all got our instructions here.

810
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 6: Sam Donald, I could I could see the Jets going

811
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 6: either way with Sam Donald. I'm gonna say the Jets

812
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 6: stay with Sam Donald and he's your quarterback. I think

813
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 6: you can still win with Sam Donald. I got no

814
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 6: issues with him. I don't And I just think, listen,

815
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 6: you know you're playing quarterback and you're rounded by shit,

816
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 6: then shit's gonna get on your arm and you're gonna

817
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 6: smell like shit every now and then. I don't know

818
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 6: what people expect. So let's put some pieces in place

819
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 6: with this guy and see what he can do with it.

820
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 6: There they have a lot of holes. I think Sam

821
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Speaker 6: Donald's gonna stay with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: So you would take Devonte Smith or someone like that

823
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Speaker 2: for Sam Donald. With that number two pick, I would yes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, if they have two or three receivers

825
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 6: they like and they got a real close like the

826
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Speaker 6: Jamar Chase kid Lsu, maybe you could trade down a

827
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Speaker 6: few picks too, get another pick and get a receiver

828
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Speaker 6: that's top notch. You know, they're in a pretty good,

829
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Speaker 6: pretty mvyvil spot as far as that's concerned.

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson, I'm gonna play that.

831
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: That's gonna break up every single answer you gave moving

832
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: forward here, Deshaun Watson, he will be playing for who

833
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: week one next year.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I have no idea he's gonna command He's

835
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Speaker 6: gonna command the biggest trade haul in the history of football,

836
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 6: which he should. He's one of the five best quarterbacks

837
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 6: in the game, and he's just hitting the prime of

838
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 6: his career and his contract is already set up and

839
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 6: things like that to me, Stu gott here, I'll just

840
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 6: say this because I don't know what team, but and

841
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 6: I know you wanted fast answers, but you're not going

842
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 6: to get them.

843
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: So that's fun.

844
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: No, listen, I enjoy I enjoy discussing this with you.

845
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: I certainly never get the chance to discuss it with Lebator.

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00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: So this is perfect. I well, yes, good.

847
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 6: Well to me, Like the thing with Deshaun Watson is like,

848
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 6: I don't think teams like the Jets and that are

849
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 6: going to be in the running for him. Why so

850
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 6: he can go there and be the same shitty situation

851
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 6: he was with Houston, and then the Jets can be

852
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 6: born twelve with Deshaun Watson because they've traded away all

853
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 6: their picks and everything to get them. That to me

854
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 6: doesn't make sense. I think it has to be a

855
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 6: team that's either got a lot of picks, you know,

856
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 6: stored away, but has a team that's, you know, a

857
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 6: team that's in a good spot, like a team like

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Speaker 6: the forty nine ers would make sense to me, it

859
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 6: really would. Team's ready here, you can have our quarterback

860
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 6: Jimmy Garoppolo. We'll give you some first round picks, and

861
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: we get the Shawn Watson. You know, that makes sense.

862
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 6: A team like the New Orleans Saints makes sense. Wow,

863
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 6: teams ready, super Bowl window, They're ready right now? What

864
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 6: the hell do we need to see some first round

865
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Speaker 6: in the next two years. We're ready to go. Let's go.

866
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 6: And of course the Miami Dolphins, they're one team that

867
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Speaker 6: I do have my eye on I know for a

868
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 6: fact he has his eye on the Miami Dolphins. There's

869
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 6: some sort of relationship with Chris Career, and of course

870
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 6: they have the picks and are very close to being

871
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 6: kind of set up too. I mean we saw them

872
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 6: the turnaround they had, they got depth, they got a

873
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 6: good team. I mean, they're shaping in this to a

874
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 6: team where I go, they're gonna be around the next

875
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Speaker 6: few years.

876
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Speaker 2: I want to stay in the Dolphins for a second.

877
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: How would that look to you? Would it be Tua

878
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: and a first round pick for Deshaun Watson. They have

879
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: two first round picks this year their own, and the

880
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: Texans they have two picks next year in.

881
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: The first round.

882
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: They have two second round picks each year this year

883
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: and next year. So they have the picks and they

884
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: have Tua.

885
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: So is it two? How many picks would they have

886
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: to give up?

887
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 6: I think they'd probably have to give up They probably

888
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 6: have to give to and they still might have to

889
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 6: give three first round picks. I mean they could take

890
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 6: four first round picks to get a guy like Deshaun

891
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 6: Watson or like a remarkable player with three first round

892
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 6: picks or something like that. First off you know again, Tua.

893
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 6: There's still a lot of questions about Tua. You know,

894
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people in the NFL that think

895
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 6: maybe the Dolphins will entertain drafting another quarterback in the

896
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 6: top ten. It was an underwhelming year as far as

897
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 6: how it looked. I'm not trying to judge too quickly.

898
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 6: He's the rookie. I understand that. But we saw Burrow

899
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 6: and Herbert who were clearly in a different stratosphere than Tua,

900
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 6: and I think that's concerning a little bit to Miami

901
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 6: and it should be. I understand that. So he's not

902
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 6: gonna hold great trade value right now. Right as far

903
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 6: as like, oh, okay, we'll swap you for Watson and

904
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 6: that'll take care of things. No, that's not going to

905
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 6: take care of things, because they're gonna be able to

906
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 6: go well, we don't know if twas two is definitely

907
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 6: an NFL starter yet, And that's gonna, you know, make

908
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 6: those things a little bit more interesting too, Faith Carson Wentz.

909
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 6: If you made me guess there, I would say the Colts, Okay,

910
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 6: I just think it makes sense. Frank Reich has coached him,

911
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 6: he knows the offense. They're they're a team two that

912
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 6: is in the window and ready to win right now.

913
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 6: I can see that Chris Ballard's very smart. He's not

914
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 6: gonna give up the farm though, to get Carson Wentz.

915
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 6: You know, we know the Bears are in that conversation too.

916
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 6: What I want to go with the Bears is go,

917
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 6: why are you interested in Carson Wentz And Carson Wentz

918
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 6: you shouldn't be interested in the Bears. It's just like Philadelphia.

919
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 6: And like with Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy, I want

920
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 6: to go, like, if you trade for Carson Wentz and

921
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 6: he doesn't play good early in the year, everyone's gonna go, oh, well, see,

922
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 6: Pace and Naggy can't evaluate quarterbacks. They don't know what

923
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 6: they're doing, and it's gonna be an issue. And then

924
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 6: the whole fan base is gonna be on Wentz and

925
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 6: it'll be just like Philadelphia. So if I'm Wentz or Chicago,

926
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 6: I'd go, no, thanks, let's do something else. The Colts

927
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 6: is the one that does make sense. But Philadelphia it

928
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 6: sounds like they want Matthew Stafford type assets back for

929
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 6: the guys, and that's not realistic. That's not realistic for

930
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 6: a guy who's you know, gonna be forty million dollars

931
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 6: in the cap and there's a stigma right now. You

932
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 6: trade for him and he doesn't do well, everyone's gonna go, well,

933
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 6: they didn't even want him in Philly. They should have

934
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 6: never got rid of Nick Foles. Jalen Hurts is going

935
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 6: to do Why did we trade to get this guy

936
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 6: that lessons his value? And I don't know if Philly

937
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 6: has realized that quite yet.

938
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppoloo, that's a tough one, right, it's a tough

939
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: one because you don't know if one of these guys

940
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: is gonna go to San Francisco.

941
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 6: That's what I mean. If you need a few of

942
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 6: these dogs so we can figure it out, right, that's

943
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 6: where that's really the issue with this conversation, and just

944
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 6: a few of them to fall and then we can

945
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 6: figure it out because we're gonna together. The mar Well,

946
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 6: you're right, and we will. But the Carolina Panthers, like,

947
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: there are teams that I think could be involved in

948
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 6: these conversations with all these quarterbacks. Jimmy Garoppolo, they're not

949
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 6: gonna just get rid of him to get rid of them.

950
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 6: That's one thing. You know, Again, you could say what

951
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 6: you want yes, is he a superstar? No, I don't

952
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 6: think he's the top ten quarterback in football. But the

953
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 6: one thing I do know is when he plays, they win,

954
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 6: and when he doesn't play, they're not very good. So

955
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 6: there is something to that. And I don't think the

956
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 6: forty nine ers are just gonna trade them down the river,

957
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 6: you know, for some schlet or shitty quarterback. You know,

958
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 6: maybe if they feel like they can get Watson, if

959
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 6: they felt like a Sam Darnold was a clear upgrade

960
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 6: over it, then maybe they make that move. But I

961
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 6: think there's still a great chance Jimmy Garoppol is back

962
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 6: with the forty nine ers.

963
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: All right, before I get you out of here, and

964
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: you've been great as always. We appreciate it.

965
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: Are you telling me if the Jets, Okay, if they

966
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: offered Sam Donald and then number two pick in the

967
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: draft and maybe next year's number one as well, that

968
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: would not get them to Sean Watson.

969
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 6: No, that might get it with those high of a picks.

970
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 6: You're right, that might get it. Yeah, and Sam Donald

971
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 6: I still think is viewed as a starter, So I

972
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 6: think that can get it done. Now the issue and

973
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 6: why I'm just skeptical about that because that makes sense,

974
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 6: and that was a very good proposed trade right there.

975
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 6: But Deshaun Watson has a no trade clause. Is he

976
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 6: gonna want to go there and do that? That's just

977
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 6: gonna be the thing that I want to see it

978
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 6: before I want to I gotta see it to believe it.

979
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 6: I just have a hard time thinking a guy like

980
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 6: him is gonna go. Wait, I'm in Strugglesville in Houston,

981
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 6: and let me join the Jets who have been in

982
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 6: Strugglesville for the whole century. Sure, and that's where I

983
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 6: just go. I gotta see that to believe it.

984
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 5: How about from the Jets side of it, though, what

985
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 5: would be worth it to get to get him?

986
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: The whole organization would be worth it?

987
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 6: Well, you know if you could go and that's not enough, Well,

988
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 6: if you said a scenario like Stu Gotts, where you

989
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 6: said Sam Donald this year's number two and maybe one

990
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 6: of those picks from next year, I could think I

991
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 6: could live with that with the Jets if I'm the Jets,

992
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: and maybe you have to throw in something else in

993
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 6: there too. Now they're gonna have to take de Shaun

994
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 6: Watson's contract on. There's something to be said about that.

995
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 6: But I think I could get behind that. But if

996
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 6: you're asking for two this year and two next year

997
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 6: and a Sam Donald, that's where I go, well, shit,

998
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 6: we got too many holes. I can't do that if

999
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: I'm the Jets, but that proposed playing there, I think

1000
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 6: they might be able to get behind that.

1001
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: What the fucker the Texans doing?

1002
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: They lose Hopkins Watson and then in an attempt to

1003
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: try to impress to Sean Watson and keep them, they

1004
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: hire a sixty five year old white head.

1005
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 3: Coach who's never coached before the NFL. Who is running

1006
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: that organization?

1007
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's the big question. I mean, that really is.

1008
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 6: You know, listen, the Textans are dysfunctional. They have been

1009
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 6: for a while. Really. There ain't a lot of players

1010
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 6: in football that really want to play for the Houston Texans.

1011
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 6: But there's a salary cap either.

1012
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: That team was up to twenty four to nothing on

1013
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: the Chiefs last year.

1014
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 6: I know, it's it's unbelievable, but there's real issues with

1015
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 6: the ownership and the way the ownership's viewed by the players.

1016
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 6: So that's a really big thing. And then I think

1017
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 6: some of the moves they made in the organization, you know,

1018
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 6: I'm upset Watson. But here's where they went wrong stew goats.

1019
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 6: First off, they told him he could be a part

1020
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: of the decision. I've never heard that ever. I mean

1021
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 6: not even Tom Brady or Peyton Manning were part of

1022
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 6: the decision.

1023
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: What right?

1024
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 6: So that's their first mistake. But okay, now you're fucking

1025
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 6: dumb enough to do that. How about then involved them

1026
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 6: in the decision when you he tells you to interview

1027
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 6: Eric v Enemy or Robert Saw How the fun can

1028
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 6: you tell him you're going to be a part of

1029
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 6: the decision and then make decisions and not include him.

1030
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 6: I mean, you can't write that? Is that a Seinfeld

1031
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 6: this year? What the hell is that? I mean, that's

1032
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 6: just stupid so that they did this to themselves in

1033
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 6: a lot of ways.

1034
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: A franchise that is uh, Mike, we found a franchise

1035
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: that has run uh more poorly than the Jets. It's

1036
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: Easton Texas. Yes, Chris Sims check him out. He's fantastic.

1037
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: I am now searching for it. The Unbuttoned Podcast, NBC

1038
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: Sports NFL analyst Dude, your big time man.

1039
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: I see you on the NBC pregame show. I see

1040
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: you with Florio, What the fuck happened to you? Sims

1041
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 3: A left come a couple of years ago.

1042
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: I'm trying to be like you, but I can't. I

1043
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 6: can't lie left co Steve Gott's levantard were very big

1044
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 6: part of the rise of Chris sim So. I love you.

1045
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: You're my guy, man, and I love you forever. And

1046
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 2: I am asking you right now, okay, one month from today.

1047
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: I watch you on the podcast.

1048
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 6: Okay, text before, but you do, Mike, it sounds good.

1049
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 6: I'm all for it anytime I can make it happen.

1050
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 6: Stetts and Mike, I'm.

1051
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: On there, all right.

1052
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: He's a great guy. He's a good friend. Check him

1053
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: out on button. I think he's the best in the

1054
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: business with all this stuff, especially the quarterback position. NBA, NBA,

1055
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: NBC Sports, NFL analyst also co host of Pro Football

1056
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: Talk Live with Mike Florio.

1057
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: Love you, buddy, Appreciate you.

1058
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 6: You're the man. See you guys, all right, how do

1059
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 6: your dad for? I will punch in the face.

1060
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: What do you think about that? You're mad at me?

1061
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: Because because all of a sudden, I even a big

1062
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: Tom Brady fan, and I think we're both upset and

1063
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: cresfallen that Sims doesn't love Justin Fields. He doesn't think

1064
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: they have enough to trade for Watson, and we're gonna

1065
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: be stuck with the Vonta Smith.

1066
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say stuck. He's probably the best player in

1067
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: the draft, but we need a quarterback. Mike listen.

1068
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 5: I am of the mindset where if you can't get

1069
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: to Sean Watson, you keep Sam Darnold and you build

1070
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 5: the team. That's that's That's how I've always thought about it,

1071
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 5: because I don't like Fields, I don't like Wilson.

1072
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: And now, mind you, I know nothing. I watched as

1073
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 4: much by you as you are for them. Okay, we

1074
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: I haven't watched anything. But that being said, I just

1075
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: don't I feel like Justin Field is a guy you

1076
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Speaker 4: can get in any draft.

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Speaker 2: Uh. He did say Zach Wilson, and like like when

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Speaker 2: he said Patrick Mahomes and some like that was go

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Speaker 2: get Zach Wilton.

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Speaker 3: I want Zach Wilson, though, if I can't have Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, mikey A that if the Jets offered

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Speaker 2: their entire organization to the Texans for Deshaun Watson, that

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Speaker 2: the Texans would say yes, no, no, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you, if you offer, I feel like

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Speaker 5: the more you gave them, it's like, here, take more trash.

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Speaker 5: No do you want more trash? And it's like at

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Speaker 5: some point I have enough trash? Right, But that's you're right.

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Speaker 3: That's the kuy, the trash where you're picking through it

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Speaker 3: trying to find something that's edible and there's nothing in there.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: The Jets.

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Speaker 4: We had Robert Salah on the podcast. I get why

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Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson would want to play for him, though, and.

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Speaker 3: It's at sala said.

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Speaker 2: He said, listen, I will upgrade at any position, including

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Speaker 2: the quarterback position. He did say that to us, so

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Speaker 2: I forced him to say, but he didn't say it. Okay, man,

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Speaker 2: I love Chris Simms. I'm depressed now, Mike, I really am.

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Speaker 5: Why because Tom Brady can't play for another few months,

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Speaker 5: you fucking trader.

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Speaker 3: I'm depressed because I'm a fan of Brady.

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Speaker 2: I'm depressed because Brady's gonna play it another five years

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Speaker 2: and win another four Super Bowls. I'm depressed because we're

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Speaker 2: not getting Deshaun Watson. I'm depressed because he doesn't really

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00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: like justin Field. I'm depressed because I'm a fucking Jets fan. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's why I'm depressed.

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Speaker 4: I'm depressed because I'm a fucking Jets fan. That's all

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Speaker 4: you need.

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Speaker 2: Forty years, they give me nothing, I mean nothing, They've

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Speaker 2: given me nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna. Perhaps I'll root for the Bucks

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Speaker 3: next year.