WEBVTT - Moshe Kasher 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.480 This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:05.920 and see my brand new comedy hour. Well it's actually 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.400 it's about an hour and a half and I don't 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.000 have an opener because these guys cost money. But what 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.000 I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway, 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.560 come and see me live on the Pants on Fire 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.720 Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now and 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.160 we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout twenty 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.960 twenty five and beyond. For a full list of dates, 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.280 go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com. See you 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.960 on the road, my DearS. My name is Craig Ferguson. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.440 The name of this podcast is joy. I talk to 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:46.000 interesting people about what brings them happiness. One of the 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.000 rules I said for myself when I started this podcast 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.440 is that I was only going to talk to people 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.680 that I wanted to talk to. And for the most part, 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.560 i'd stuck to that, except for the episodes where there 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.760 was just me talking to myself. But I will say this, 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.920 My guest today is someone who I've known tangently and 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.320 I'm a fan of and I've watched him work over 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.959 the last maybe almost twenty years since I started Late 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.200 Night fifteen years something like that. He is a very 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.680 unusual mind. A stand up comedian, but much more than 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.760 a stand up comedian. Is I think you're about to 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.440 find out, Moshi Kasher. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:36.600 In the body. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:34.160 What I have to say to you? 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:35.039 What she is this? 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.080 I haven't seen you for a while, and you've got 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:38.840 new glasses. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.080 I'm glad you noticed. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.559 I did get in glasses yet, and they are about 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.040 to be all glasses. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.160 And are the glasses that you can see people behind you. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.640 They look like they might be glasses, but they've got 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.880 the little mirrors and you can see people behind you. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:53.880 You know what's I'm talking about. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.240 What I can say about that is this. They were 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.960 made in Germany, so the possibility that they're doing survey 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:04.040 valance is higher than if they were American glasses. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.000 Well, I think nowadays, I think we're all under a 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:09.000 little bit of surveillance. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.960 We signed up for him, man, We signed outside with 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.080 these things that. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.239 I thought you were talking about, cash Fattel and a 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.000 new surveillance apparatus of the United States government which has 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.640 never been more sophisticated and impressive. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.799 Tell me about this I don't know about it. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.919 About me and Cash Hottel. Well, Cash is an old 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.440 college buddy. He's running the FBI now and uh, he 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.560 kind of I'm on his email list and I'm getting 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.360 a lot of the intel and he's up to some 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.440 really interesting stuff. And I'm really glad you had me 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.560 on your podcast because that's all I want to talk 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:43.440 about today. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.680 Don't you really know Cash Hotel? 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.040 No, I wish, I don't wish I know. I hope 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.920 he doesn't know who I am. I never want him 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:52.600 to know my name. 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.680 He knows who you are. He knows when we are sleeping, 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.120 and he knows when we are away. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:04.600 Said, yeah, that's kind of what I'm saying. That's what 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.840 I'm saying. That he's Santa. He knows some are on 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.120 the North List, so. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:14.440 Right, he has an audience nice list and it's it's 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.720 actually just a it's an Elon musk X feed and 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.520 he just looks at it. And the coal has had 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.600 it as a U is back too. They're digging for coal. 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.919 Yeah, I I had about that. What do you use 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:28.360 cool for? 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:28.680 Now? 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.600 See I grew up in Scotland where coal was very popular. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.480 We used it for all sorts of things. We made 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.080 houses out of it and toys when my I think 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:42.160 my first Christmas present was cool. But the it's cools 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.160 for power stations. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:43.960 I guess that's it. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.040 And I'm glad that you're coming to me for questions 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.680 about the power infrastructure in the United States because. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.400 I'm the right guy. Listen, I grew up. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.240 I grew up Jewish, so our our Christmas presents were 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.080 made of gold and they were just telescopes so we 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.360 could see into the houses of the gentile families. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.960 Oh. Nice, tiny little telescopes as well. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:08.920 Little telescope made a little telescope golden foreskins. 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.920 I'm glad you mentioned growing up because I'm always fascinated 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.880 to talk to you because you got you go clean 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.760 and sober, like before most people get started on their 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.760 journey of excess if they're going to have one. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:23.400 What was the name of your book again? 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.400 And I read it ages ago, but it was about 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.560 somebody that got clean and sober by the age of 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:28.680 sixteen or something. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.400 Oh, it was my That's my first book. Casher in 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.680 the Rock, The True the True tale of Yeah, the 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.160 true tale of a white boy from Oakland who became 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.480 a drug addict to criminal mental patient and then turned 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.320 sixteen turned sixteen. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.320 There you go, Yeah, I remember it. I'm glad you 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.440 remember it too. It was. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:52.200 It's a fascinating kind of thing because I I feel 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.600 like you may have you should be able to sue someone. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.479 I think if you've gone through all that by the 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:58.720 time you're sixty. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:04:59.920 Well, who would it be? My mother? 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.200 Probably? Yeah, I think probably it should sue your mona. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.159 You know, I've officially been sober such a long time 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.880 from such a young age that I don't even find 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:15.920 it impressive anymore. From about age twenty to about age 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.000 thirty five, I was like very proud of it, like 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.720 it's been it's been fifteen years and I'm only thirty 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.880 years old. Now I'm forty five and it's been thirty years, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:30.160 and I get embarrassed trying to talk about it at 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.240 like dinner parties, because it begs so many questions that 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:34.599 I don't have good answers to. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.120 Well, it's interesting thing. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.280 You bring up an interesting well, because I've been sober 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.839 for over thirty years as well, And it is an 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.800 interesting thing because I don't people say, you know, we'll 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.839 say thanks to me, like do you miss it, and 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.000 I'm like, miss Wacker, probably I don't even know what 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:54.599 you're talking about, you know, it's yeah, I mean, it's 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.920 such a fucking long time ago. What happens is though, 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.760 I think. I mean, I I describe myself as an alcoholic. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:06.920 I don't know how you identify, but that's kind of 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.599 and I feel like that's still what I am. It's 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:13.279 just it's not connected to It's more a description of 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.040 the type of person that I am, the type of 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.880 you know, mental aberrations that I have are connected with 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.200 being an alcoholic. I mean, look, I can get back 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.560 to drinking pretty fast if I if I made a 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.200 terrible error of judgment. But it doesn't come up in 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.320 my daily life. But oh, do you think about it 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.680 at all about drinking again? Yeah, drinking or using or 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:36.560 anything like that. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:37.720 Well, I'll tell you. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.960 I'll answer your first question by saying, during those glory 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.960 years when I would brag at parties about how long 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.359 I had been sober, because it really was something I 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.120 thought was so cool and unique and different about me, 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.640 because I was so young, and I really was proud 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.560 of it, and I was proud of the muck that 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.279 I'd pulled myself out of But as I have gotten older, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.159 and I'm sure it's not a coincident, it's coincided with 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.960 me feeling less sort of confident about declaring how long 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:11.280 it's been. Is this idea of I no longer understand 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:17.560 the word alcoholic, like I understand the framing that you're 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.440 giving over and I think in the program it becomes 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.440 a sort of spiritual state of being, my orientation in 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.280 the world. It's the way that I interact with the universe. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.120 It's the adjuta I feel if I'm not caring for myself, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.920 it's you know, scrambling thoughts, blah blah blah, which I 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.320 have all of those characteristics, but so do a lot 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.520 of people. But I got sober so young. I was 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.600 fifteen years old when I got out of rehab for 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:43.760 the last time, almost sixteen and for I would say 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:48.000 probably twenty years. I knew in my bones that I 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.160 was an alcoholic. But now I don't know if I 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.960 know what an alcoholic is. And I mean, obviously I 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.240 know that their alcoholic behaviors drinking too much, compulsive drinking, 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.240 being unable to stop drinking once you start. But if 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.440 I was nothing about me is the same from when 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:10.120 I was fifteen. So the idea, yeah, there's one spiritual 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.880 state of being that still is totally true and definitive 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.480 for me is harder with each passing year for me 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:16.920 to wrap my brain around. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.320 Yeah, I can identify very strongly with that. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.760 I think the thing that I pivot around, which is 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.280 maybe slightly there or a slightly different way of approaching 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.280 it to you, is that I I it's kind of 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.080 I like take the allergy kind of things, like if 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.560 I was allergic to peanuts when I was five years old, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:36.680 I'm allergic to peanuts. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.040 I'm sixty two years old. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.880 The allergy I've changed a great deal in that time, 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:47.320 but the essential allergy to peanuts remains fundamentally true and unchanged. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.800 And I feel like that with me. Alcohol is kind. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.560 Of like that is it's still the basic. The first 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.120 drink is the one that gets you drunk, not the 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.480 third one, not the tenth one. And if I get 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:04.360 to the point where I introduced the allogen into my system, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.640 then I'm no longer food in the wheel. 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.280 That's kind of how I feel about it. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.640 And that makes total sense, and I don't refute it 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.320 actually in the set, I have a new book out 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:17.719 that came out last year. 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:18.960 I think you'd actually really like it. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.960 It's called Subculture Vulture, a memoir in six scenes, and 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.920 in each sub culture that I examined, these are like 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.080 the kind of six worlds that I've spent my life in. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.960 I do a history of that world, and then I 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.680 enter the history. At a certain point it becomes about 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.120 my time in that world. And the first chapter it's 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.120 actually I don't know, they're actually longer than chapters. It's 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.559 like the first novella is about my time in AA 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.080 and I talk about this whole process where I went 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:51.760 through this brain melt at about twenty years sober, where 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.640 it just became harder and harder for me to understand 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.839 what I meant when I declared myself alcoholic. But I 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.880 I understand what you're saying to that idea, like, once 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:09.640 you have crossed a threshold into alcoholism, you become allergic 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.480 in a way that is permanent. And not to say 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.800 I think anyone should drink again. I certainly don't, and 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.600 I'm still sober. But allergies even changed from fifteen to 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.439 forty five. I mean, even within the framework of the analogy, 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.760 you could say, well, I was allergic to I was 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.800 allergic to the peanut when I was fifteen, but now 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.200 I'm forty five and my chemistry has changed. But I 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.400 use an analogy in the book. I think you'd like 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:37.000 to describe what alcoholism is is I have two problems. Right, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.679 The alcoholic has two problems. They are it is strawberries 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.240 and mind fuck, Like you need both in order to 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:44.160 really be an alcoholic. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:44.400 Right. 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.560 Strawberries is the analogy you're using, Right, It's like, every 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.040 time I eat a strawberry, I break out in hives, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.480 I leave my wife, I go drunk driving. You know, 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.440 I have an allergy for strawberries. And if all I 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.920 had was the allergy for strawberries, it would be very 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.120 simple to know what to do in the face of that, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.800 which is just don't yeah that you're right, avoid the strawberry. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.600 Pats strawberry. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.240 Yeah right, I'm sure you already know where this is going. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.480 The other problem we have is mind fuck. Mind fuck 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.200 is every time you look at a strawberry, all you 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:20.199 can remember is the beautiful, delicious flavor of that sweet 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.520 nectar within that strawberry. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.600 You must have another strawberry. You take another bite, and. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.000 The allergy is back, but I don't even know if 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:29.520 I believe in that analogy anymore. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.520 Well, you know, it's kind of like it's whatever works 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.680 in the day. I think I know that I know 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:41.400 that it is. It is something. And I'm sure you've 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.800 heard this as well. There are two things that I 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.760 hear more bullshit about in my life than everyone. One 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:53.080 is addiction and addictive people, especially if they're being described 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.760 by people who have opinions about it but have no 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.640 experienced that, or people who. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.080 Are in the active throes of it. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.080 Man talk a lot, right, It's either people who don't 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:04.720 know what they're talking about or people who do. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:06.080 Both of them are full of shit. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.720 I'm full of shit, right. And the other one is aviation. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.520 Hello, this is Greig Ferguson and I want to let 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.560 you know I have a brand new stand up comedy 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.480 special out now on YouTube. It's called I'm So Happy 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.120 and I would be so happy if you checked it out. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.640 To watch the special, just go to my YouTube channel 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.800 at the Craig Ferguson Show and is this right there? 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.840 Just click it and play it and it's free. I 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.439 can't look. I'm not going to come around your house 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:39.800 and show you how to do it. If you can't 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.199 do it, then you can't have it. But if you 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:45.280 can figure it out, it's yours. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.080 Aviation is something that I became. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.800 I was terrified of flying for a long time, and 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:56.080 I thought that, as people of my strike kind do, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.320 I thought, the best way to come back this clearly 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.000 is to learn how to fly. And I got a 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.920 pilot's license and I and I kind of went through 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.000 all of that, and I learned so much about it 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.400 that now when I like, when you read a report about, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:16.240 you know, a drunk guy on plane forces emergency landing, 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.920 and you go, it's not an emergency landing. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.200 They just landed the plane because there's a drunk guy 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.280 on it. That's not an emergency. That's just fucking unpleasant. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:31.360 And then or the is like turbulence. The plane dropped 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:32.240 a thousand feet. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.480 It didn't. It didn't drop a thousand feet, And it's weird. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.600 It's like a plane traveling at six hundred miles an 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.559 hour going through you know, rough air moves maybe an inch, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.199 a couple of inches, maybe a foot maybe if you're 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:51.319 a real you know, real mind blowing turbulence, but thousands 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:55.679 of feet it's just bullshit. And what I think is 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.240 interesting is that we now live in a world where 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:04.040 there is no I don't know, I don't know if 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.120 I trust any source of information, even the ones that 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.800 I go to that I supposedly trust. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.200 I'm like sometimes when I hear stuff, I'm like, yeah, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.440 I don't know. If that don't doesn't there right to me. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.800 I think we've become very suspicious. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.640 I think we should be very suspicious because information is 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:26.520 because okay good unbelievably less less reliable, and cash for 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:27.360 tell is. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.400 A part of the issue, but it's true. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.000 Here's the I've been thinking about this last night because 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.440 I was working on a new bit about this very topic, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:40.440 which is that everyone is stupid. I think we all 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.800 know that everyone's stupid except for you and me, right 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.360 for breaking Emosha kind of the only two intelligent people left. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.480 But the stupidity has a different harmonic these days. For 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.560 you know, two hundred thousand years, stupid people were like, yeah, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.600 you know, I'm kind of just like a stupid guy, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.720 Like I'm just a dumb old guy, and I go 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.800 to other people for information. Stupid people now are like, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.200 I'm actually the smartest person in the world, Like I 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.120 actually know every single thing that there is to know. 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.240 That is the that's the disease of the modern era 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.280 is that the no one will admit that they don't 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.920 know anything anymore, and it expresses itself. This is the 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.680 bit I'm working on is about homeschool and I'm like, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.120 I've never met a person who decided to homeschool their kids. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.760 I hope you don't homeschool your kids. I've never met 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:26.440 a person. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:31.760 Decided who decided to homeschool their kid where I'm like, yes, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.880 you are an educator. I have always thought you had 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.600 it in you. I've never seen it never. 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:44.640 That's a fascinating approach, and I wholeheartedly agree. I think 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.360 so I have this It's not an argument, but I 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.440 have this different point of view with my wife. My 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:54.360 wife sees conspiracy, not conspiracy fees, but she always thinks, like, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.680 you know what these guys in Washington are up to? 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.200 Or do you know what these guys are doing? 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.320 And I'm like, I have a I think her view 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.040 of the world like they're up to something is rather 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.680 touching an optimistic view of the world, because I don't 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.760 think any of these buggers are smart enough to be 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.920 up to annon. I think they're just basically bumping around 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.440 going oh what now, Oh what now? And I don't 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.240 think I have a very hard time being believing in 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:26.760 any form of conspiracy theory because I like you. I 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.680 think most people said you and me are are British humid. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:36.760 There's a tradition in Judaism. It's called the midrash, right. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:44.000 The midrash are extra canonical anecdotes about Biblical figures and 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.800 the story of the Bible. Right, so they're they're kind 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.280 of like oral stories that were passed down that are 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.360 not like fully canon, but are our extra cannon right, 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:58.160 like like the strange story, Like I don't know if 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.560 you ever heard the story of a Abraham coming and 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.080 breaking all of the idols in front of h that 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.280 his father used to worship. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:06.879 I don't know if you've ever heard that story. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.280 I don't know that one. I know the one I'm 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.320 going to murder my son. I'm not good to murder 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:12.840 my son. That's not anyone that's in. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.119 Unfortunately, that one's that one's in. That one's in the 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.479 original text. Unfortunately that made it to the main script. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.800 But this is like an extra thing, which is like 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.159 when when God revealed himself to Abraham. Abraham came to 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:30.720 his father's you know, idol worship barn and broke all 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.639 the idols. And for my whole childhood I thought that 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.920 was in the Bible, and then I found out, Oh, 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.320 it's not in the Bible at all. It's just an 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.919 extra story that people kind of tell. Anyway, what's my 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.560 point of saying all that? There's all these midrash midrashim 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.320 they're called, and they're a great quote about the midrash, 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.919 about the midrashim, which is, if you believe all of 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.560 the midrash you're a fool. If you believe none of them, 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.600 you're a bigger fool. And that's a religious idea and 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.880 judy I have always ported that idea over into conspiracy 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.840 theory if you believe, but I reverse it, which is, 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.520 if you believe no conspiracy theory, you're a fool. If 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.679 you believe all the conspiracy theories, you're a bigger fool. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.040 Yes, I think I think I can absolutely concur with 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.879 you on that. But the problem is, of course, is 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.200 picking the ones to believe and not to believe it. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.720 And they also the the agenda, which is interesting. You 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.919 use Judaism as of course though you would do. But 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:37.160 it's because, of course, the the Jewish people are always 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.880 accused the anti Semitism is always based on a oh 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.440 these guys are up to something. Oh there's an agenda 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:48.320 like to that. That protocols of the Elder's at Zion stuff. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.800 That's greatest, Like that's the greatest work. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.160 It's it's so crazy. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.400 It's like I remember here in a while ago somebody 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.320 was banging on about the ad. 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.760 It's actually I think it was on Bill Maher's show. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.680 Somebody was talking about, yeah, I don't suppose they like 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.080 that on the Hollywood cocktail circuit. 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.480 And I'm like, Hollywood cocktail circuit. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.200 Well, you heard synagogue when you when when you heard 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:20.200 you've got synagogue? 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:26.480 I know what I thought, how dare you accuse me 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:31.240 of that? What I thought was that do you know 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.560 anything about Hollywood? The idea that people are hanging around 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:39.280 socialized and that they they're not they don't do that. 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.240 It's Hollywood is is the most work you. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:44.160 Know la Hollywood. 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.399 I'm not talking about the Hollywood Boulevard and stuff, but 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.280 I mean that's a whole different community. But they do 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:54.160 the idea that that people in the Hollywood hangout because 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.400 they like each other in the show business community. 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:58.640 I don't see a lot of that. I wasn't aware. 0:19:58.880 --> 0:19:59.800 Maybe they just didn't like. 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.640 Me, or that we get you mean that we all 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.040 get together and kind of like lay out the plan 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.040 for controlling the culture. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.320 For movies and show business and stuff. 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:10.920 Right, we're gonna we're. 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.800 Gonna be pushing our gender agenda in twenty twenty seven. 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.120 That's the plan. Right. 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.200 Nobody's that sophisticated, And I totally I agree. 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:19.800 I get so frustrated. 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.840 I mean, obviously, you know it can be bigotry, can 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.919 be frustrating in all of its forms. But it's so 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:30.639 frustrating that, you know, when if in the computer programming world, 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:34.080 in the tech world, there's a lot of Indian program 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.280 there's a lot of computer geniuses that are Indian, but 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:40.920 nobody's talking about the grand conspiracy for Indians to control 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.760 the tech universe. But every time the Jews do some stuff, 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.280