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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John

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Speaker 1: A lot going on today. Wanted to dive in. The

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Speaker 1: because we couldn't sustain business with those two properties. And

429
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Speaker 1: since I've left, they bought the Golden State Warriors because

430
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Speaker 1: you have to have powerful local teams in sports radio

431
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: to really make Hay. Anyone that watched the documentary on

432
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Francesa and Chris Russo, they all admitted, like part of

433
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Speaker 1: our success had to do with we were in business

434
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: with the New York Football Giants, the New York Knicks,

435
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: and the New York Rangers. They all happen to be

436
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: pretty good in the nineties, especially the Rangers and the Knicks.

437
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: It helped business because who do they get every week?

438
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: You know? Or in the early night Bill Parcells, pat Riley,

439
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: like Mark Messier. You get access to those guys, and

440
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: like in my business right now, I'm not determined for

441
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: my financial success as a podcast entity is not determined

442
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: by one other property. If it was like, hey, you're

443
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: in business with the AFC. Let's say, and every single

444
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Speaker 1: week I get any quarterback I want from the AFC

445
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: and any coach I want, I would probably in the

446
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: it went through the NFL, probably wouldn't be taking shots

447
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: at Roger Goodell, right, because I would be making a

448
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: lot off what they're giving me. Just the way business works.

449
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes people in media lose sight because

450
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Speaker 1: they're like, well, I'm a journalist. It's like, no, you're

451
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: in this all business. Like the reason newspapers went down,

452
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: they were all they ever were were a distribution of ads.

453
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: That's that was the business. And then less and less

454
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: and less and less people read newspapers. Their model got fucked,

455
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: and it's why the only way they can make money

456
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: now is to charge you a monthly fee because they

457
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: know you don't get it from your driveway anymore. Are

458
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: Like one thing that has hurt local radio music and

459
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: talk radio is this, why would I do you listen

460
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: to local radio to hear music in your car anymore?

461
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: Probably not, especially people my age and younger. They wouldn't

462
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Speaker 1: know the local radio station if they unless they're from

463
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Speaker 1: that area. If you know, you offer them one hundred

464
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, they couldn't even guess. So ultimately, like listen,

465
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Speaker 1: Jerry's worked up, but like he's not totally wrong. I

466
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: mean he's wrong in the sense that like he doesn't

467
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: cut their check to pay them. But like you're in

468
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: business with the fucking cowboys, and there's a line of like, hey,

469
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: you can push someone, but hey, like you're fucking station.

470
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Speaker 1: Part of the reason I'm and I they're one of

471
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Speaker 1: the top stations, I think, the top sports station in Dallas.

472
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: It's like being in business with them, that's kind of important,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's the whole thing, and that

474
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Speaker 1: you're success. If you don't think your success tied to that,

475
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: you know, you're high on uh some pretty good stuff.

476
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: The other thing, And again, I'm not even pushing back

477
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Speaker 1: on what those guys said to Jerry, because the Cowboys

478
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: are in shambles. They got a lot of issues. But

479
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: like if I was Jerry, like I'm just gonna let

480
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 1: you guys bend me over, Like that's that's just how

481
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna work, especially after I just got my ass kicked,

482
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna me the fucking village idiot. Like I probably

483
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: would have said the same thing if I was eighty

484
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: years old. It might have been even meaner. And last,

485
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: but not least, the morning package Florio is riding about today.

486
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: You could see this thing coming from a mile away.

487
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: I just hope it's bad games because like I can

488
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: get up on the West coast for for Aaron Rodgers,

489
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: or if I'm in a plane to watch Caleb Williams,

490
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: but like Patriots Jags, Like is this gonna be a thing?

491
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: And the answer is yes. I think the only question

492
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Speaker 1: now is it gonna be ten games a year? Is

493
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Speaker 1: it gonna be fifteen games a year? I don't know,

494
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: but it's pretty clear where this is headed. Thursday Night

495
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: Football netted the NFL from Amazon. I think over eight

496
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars a year per year. They just developed

497
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: it out of nowhere. So if you could sell a

498
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Speaker 1: separate package on Sunday mornings, it wouldn't go as high

499
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Speaker 1: as what CBS, Fox and those people are paying for

500
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Speaker 1: their total packages, which I think all under the one

501
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: umbrella equals like close to like ten billion dollars. But

502
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: if you get a couple million dollars the Apple Pay

503
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: or Netflix, hey we just get twelve games a year

504
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: six thirty am Pacific standard time window, all the games

505
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: in Europe. That's gonna happen. Okay, let's bang out some

506
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: mail bag questions. You guys know the drill at John

507
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Mitaloffe is the Instagram fire in those dms for the

508
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: bag Raider fan, cow girls hater love your content? What

509
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: are the best landing spots for Jalen Milroe? I think

510
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: the cultsure ideal indoors division with week defense is great

511
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: play caller with a history of developing dual threat quarterbacks.

512
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: They need insurance for often injured Anthony Richardson. Seattle could

513
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: be an option with their OC. Grubb has a working

514
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: relationship with Debor. If the Steelers implode, they could be

515
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: an option as well. I was pretty intoxicated during the

516
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Speaker 1: Vanderbilt Alabama game at Draftking sports book down the street

517
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Speaker 1: from my house, so I'd be lying if I said

518
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Speaker 1: I had a great breakdown of Jalen's performance. I was

519
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: at the red River game, so I didn't get to

520
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: watch him play South Carolina, so I don't think it's

521
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: quite The Vanderbilt game clearly wasn't his fault. The defense

522
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: was atrocious. I have no take on how we looked

523
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Speaker 1: last week. I know they barely squeaked by. It's safe

524
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: to say the buzz and the hype has slown down

525
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. The cults are not taking a quarterback

526
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Speaker 1: I mean, the cults are going to ride this out

527
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: a couple of years, right or wrong. I actually thought

528
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Speaker 1: last night when I saw Flacco say something like Joe

529
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Speaker 1: Flacco is getting resigned for the Colts, like he's just

530
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Speaker 1: gonna be around, like they're not letting him go. Now,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. I saw Anthony Richardson. You know, I think

532
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be healthier, He's probably gonna play this week.

533
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Speaker 1: What if he plays and they lose, I think they

534
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: would just roll with Flacco. I don't know. I think

535
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Speaker 1: we got a lot to play out with these quarterbacks.

536
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Speaker 1: I think, beside Shadoor and cam Ward, I don't think

537
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Speaker 1: any of these cats look like top picks. You know,

538
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Speaker 1: Jalen did in that game against Georgia, now can he

539
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Speaker 1: maintain it? But Anthony Richson definitely wasn't nearly as good

540
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Speaker 1: as Jalen Milroe in college and went forth overall. So

541
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: you can never underestimate the power of quarterback inflation. But

542
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Speaker 1: I don't really I don't really have a great idea

543
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: yet where all these guys are gonna go. Little ways

544
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: away from even projecting the draft, because if you look

545
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: at some of the shitty teams, the Titans will need

546
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback. The Panthers pretty big wild card, you would say,

547
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: the Jags and the Browns if they don't win many games.

548
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: We know the Jags aren't drafting a quarterback. They gave

549
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: him two hundred million dollars. The Browns are a pretty

550
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: big wildcard too. Long time listener to the pod, I

551
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: know you bang on the Browns and Watson constantly and rightfully,

552
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: so I actually like Stefanski and I like a lot

553
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: of the guys on their team, and Jim Schwartz is

554
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: obviously a good defensive coordinator. It's more just it's one

555
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: of the worst business decisions we've ever seen, right. I mean,

556
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: he did not even want to be a Brown he

557
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: told them no. And I think the Saints and definitely

558
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: the Panthers got very, very lucky. Forty nine ers were

559
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: sniffing around too. I think it's crazy looking back with

560
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: everything going on, You know what, the lesson it shows you,

561
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: and this is the Doc Rivers thing, like, your talent

562
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: has to outweigh your problems. Everyone thought he was such

563
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: an elite player, so it's like, yeah, he's got I

564
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: love it when people comment like he's he's has been

565
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: found Uh, none of these have been substantiated, and he

566
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: hasn't gone to jail and no chords. Like, guys, let's

567
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: use fucking common sense here. I never feel comfortable talking

568
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: about a one on one situation, he said. She said,

569
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: I never do. But I'm forty years old. I've seen

570
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Speaker 1: a lot of these situations being a sports fan, right

571
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: with guys in some situations that are kind of sketchy.

572
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: We have never seen anything like this. All these chicks

573
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: are massuses, and they're all saying the same thing. One

574
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: It'd probably be impossible because even if a dude is

575
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: sleeping with his messuse, he's going to the same freaking massuse, right,

576
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: you're not, Like, it's not a vending machine. No one

577
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: mixes up their massuses, if maybe one or two. But

578
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: this guy was doing it. Like just let's just use

579
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: our brains, like this guy clearly had an issue. Now

580
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: what happened in those I wasn't there, You weren't there,

581
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: But like to go, this guy is beyond a sketchy

582
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: character like that that was your thing? Like I like

583
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: my quarterbacks. Deshaun Rich dude, good looking. You shouldn't need

584
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: to try this hard to get laid that'd be my thing.

585
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, most of these fucking quarterbacks should be

586
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: a guy walking the bar like here for the sex.

587
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's shooting fish in a barrel. And then

588
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: you got this situation. You're like, bro, I can't take

589
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: you seriously at all, let alone, like, I don't even

590
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: want to. I'm not even comfortable being around you. If

591
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: I was one of his teammates, definitely. Can you imagine

592
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: some of his teammates like wives and girlfriends like side

593
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: eye on him if they ever go to functions. But

594
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: I think looking back, what's crazy is that all these

595
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: teams wanted them because they just thought he was tough.

596
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: They thought he was like Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen

597
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson, like Okay, if he gets in trouble, whatever,

598
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: but it's worth it. Turns out he sucks. It's just

599
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: crazy how it played up. He just sent me a

600
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: bunch of stats. Yeah, they're pretty ugly, diehard Titan fan like,

601
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: I just can't have my quarterback having situations. I mean, period,

602
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: point blank into story, like my quarterback. The only situation

603
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: I should ever have with my quarterback is contract situations,

604
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: Like if we want to argue about that. It's business

605
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: part of the deal. I'm talking a lot of money.

606
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't mind that, but I can't have any other things.

607
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: I should have zero issues and look at the top quarterbacks.

608
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has he ever had an issue? Honestly, the

609
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: only issues he has is like with his brother, which

610
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: he can't control. Lamar Jackson. The only issue they've ever

611
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: had is the contract stuff. Josh Allen, no issues, no issues. CJ.

612
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: Stroud been in the league now a year and a half,

613
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: no issues, Perty, no issues, Dack no issues, Like I

614
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: like my guys have no issues. If you get issues

615
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: with twenty four massusas like what are we talking about?

616
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: In what world? Could you have a conversation with someone

617
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: else and be like, yeah, this guy's got a little

618
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: bit of a problem on his hands. Like let's just

619
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: say you described this to someone that does not know sports,

620
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: and you were just trying to describe him to this John

621
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: Watson Situations like yeah, this guy's demanding a trade. The

622
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: person might ask, is the team not willing to pay him? No, Actually,

623
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: he's under a massive contract. He got extended after his

624
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: third year, So what is team bad? Well, actually, you know,

625
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: for the last six seven years. For the most part,

626
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: they've been pretty good. Is a high tax state no

627
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: actually no state income tax. He plays in Houston, but

628
00:35:54,280 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: he does have twenty plus massage therapists claiming that he

629
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: forced them to have sex and give him handies. What

630
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: do you think the average person, when you were describing

631
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: that situation, how they would Respond'd be like, it's that

632
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: sounds kind of crazy to me. Like he said, she said,

633
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: I bet he's probably innocent. I mean, come on, it's

634
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: pretty wild. It's kind of crazy honestly that he's just

635
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: still playing. Titans fan season ticket holder was just there

636
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: last week. Your new stadium is probably gonna be pretty sweet.

637
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: I was all in, but after watching Levis this past

638
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Sunday in this season, I've decided I'm ninety five percent

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Speaker 1: sure he's not the guy I would imagine you and

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Speaker 1: your other season ticket holders are not alone. I don't

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Speaker 1: love the quarterbacks in this upcoming draft. Yours is good

642
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: but gets hurt, Chador is good but has some serious

643
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: baggage with his dad, and don't love any of the others.

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Speaker 1: If Kirk Cousins continues balling out, do you think the

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Speaker 1: Titans could trade a second or a first for Pennis.

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Speaker 1: Titans get a potential answer quarterback and the Falcons get

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Speaker 1: some draft capital to help maximize their Super Bowl window.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think if you're the Falcons,

649
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: Pennix would basically be off limits because one cousins is

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Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty seven years old, and you use this

651
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Speaker 1: very valuable draft capital that you could have taken, you know,

652
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Speaker 1: a ton of different players, offensive lineman, defensive linemen. You

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Speaker 1: couldn't take a skill guy because you've done that like

654
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Speaker 1: fifteen years in a row. But I think you just

655
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Speaker 1: write it out. I think you just keep saying no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you would would give the asset away.

657
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Speaker 1: So I would imagine unless you would pay, you know,

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Speaker 1: an astronomical amount in terms of draft capital, like give

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Speaker 1: your one, which is obviously going to be high and

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Speaker 1: even more, that they would even entertain it. Been a

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Speaker 1: daily listener for a while now, wish we could see

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Speaker 1: some more go low content. But I digress. You know, golf,

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Speaker 1: The problem is when football starts, it just has to

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Speaker 1: get put to the back burner. It just does. And

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Speaker 1: I fall even the off season closely, Like I had

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Speaker 1: money on the President's Cup, I keep an eye on

667
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: some of these random tournaments, but I see the numbers

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Speaker 1: of people watching, and for the most part, some of

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Speaker 1: the stories are just like, I just don't care that

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Speaker 1: Greg Norman is not going to be the CEO anymore

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Speaker 1: or these stories. I just I have to talk football.

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00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: I'd be doing everyone, starting with myself and the company

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Speaker 1: and the partners that I'm in business with a disservice.

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Speaker 1: So it's just it sucks. But that's why We're going

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Speaker 1: to do more golf videos where I play, have some

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Speaker 1: lined up playing with some people. Hopefully get back on

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Speaker 1: the horse and the saddle with that over the next

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I haven't played golf in a couple weeks,

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Speaker 1: kind of miss it. The NFC North is obviously the

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00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: best division in football, as most people predicted through six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Can you rank the quarterbacks? In my opinion, it goes

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Speaker 1: love golf, Williams, then Donald. What you need to see

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Speaker 1: in their future head to have matchups to change this order.

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Speaker 1: If Williams goes and beats up on golf, will it

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Speaker 1: change or do you need to see all four quarterbacks

686
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Speaker 1: finish the year? Well, I think that's a little overreaction.

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Speaker 1: To Sam Donald's game against the Jets, where obviously it

688
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Speaker 1: was his worst game of the season. He lit up

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Speaker 1: the Niners. Who else they play? He lit up not

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Speaker 1: the Jets, the Texans. So it's like, I have a

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Speaker 1: hard time just you have one if he game on

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Speaker 1: the road and just saying the guy's dead last. So

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Speaker 1: to me, I think Love and Golf are just in

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Speaker 1: their own tier. You know, Love's had some sketchy moments,

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Speaker 1: but he's also had just like I'm like Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes moments. He makes throws where you're like, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's top five quarterback in the league. Now, he also

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Speaker 1: can throw the ball to the other team. He can

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Speaker 1: get a little uh, he can just get squirrely. That's

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Speaker 1: how I describe him. He can get squirrely, but he

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Speaker 1: can make some passes where you're like, holy shit, they're

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Speaker 1: to me the scariest Now that Hutchinson is injured, which

703
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Speaker 1: is just such a devastating injury. It really it just sucks,

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Speaker 1: it really does. Goss played really really well, but Goafs

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Speaker 1: played at a really high level now for three years,

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Speaker 1: like you kind of know what Gough is. I think

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Speaker 1: the question marks are loving GoF can they just go

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Speaker 1: on a superheater in the playoffs like those those are

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Speaker 1: plays teams. You would say Minnesota is a locked playoff team.

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Speaker 1: I mean because the I mean I look at I mean,

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Speaker 1: they went that back to back stretch of beating the

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Speaker 1: Niners and the Texans was pretty damn impressive. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you never want to peak too early. They got these

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Speaker 1: games coming up. All of a sudden, you beat the Lions.

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Speaker 1: If they beat the Lions, I don't see under any

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Speaker 1: scenario how they wouldn't be a playoff team. I guess

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Speaker 1: Darnold could get hurt and with JJ being out that

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Speaker 1: their quarterback situation will be a mess. But you go

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Speaker 1: six to zero and you just beat the Lions, you

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Speaker 1: got six games, so you would have eleven left. Like

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Speaker 1: what's the worst they're going to do in eleven? Like five,

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Speaker 1: even if they went five and six, that would mean

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Speaker 1: they went eleven and six. That's getting you into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And they're probably not going you know, five and six

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Speaker 1: over eleven game stretch. I think the Bears are a

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Speaker 1: pretty big wildcard that they would be my team that listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not not trying to hate. You can only beat

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Speaker 1: the teams you're supposed to play, and you've gone from

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Speaker 1: a shitty team to beating the crap out of bad teams.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge step forward. But I gotta see Caleb

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Speaker 1: do it against better defenses. What's good? John, big fan

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Speaker 1: of the pod. I've been listening since my senior year

733
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Speaker 1: of high school and now I'm a junior must be

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Speaker 1: in college. My question would one more defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year and another season of two of his usual

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Speaker 1: dominant push TJ above JJ all time. TJ will likely

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Speaker 1: play longer and have better numbers, but I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: he can match JJ's three defensive Players of the Year.

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Speaker 1: TJ already has won plus the sack record sack title

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Speaker 1: three times, but I think JJ winning three has hurt

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Speaker 1: him during awards due to voter fatigue. He's finished third

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Speaker 1: and second twice in the race. What say you? TJ's

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Speaker 1: a remarkable player, and I think we talked about him

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when were they playing who

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Speaker 1: they Oh? The Sunday night against Cowboys. Remember texting some

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Speaker 1: buddies like how'd this guy go thirtieth in the draft,

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Speaker 1: And every single person that responded, You know, college scouting

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Speaker 1: directors just you know, high level executives were like, he

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Speaker 1: did not look like this in college. And even JJ,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say was exactly like you know, Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: or Chase Young or some just all time prospect coming

752
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: out of college. He was clearly good. But I saw

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Speaker 1: I'm biased because I saw JJ play live a couple

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Speaker 1: times in the peak of his powers, and it looked

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00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald meets Lawrence Taylor. He was in his peak.

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Speaker 1: I would say, of the last twenty years, there's a

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Speaker 1: very very short list, and I would put I would

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Speaker 1: say that is better at his peak than TJ, partly

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00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: because he could go inside and outside, Like you can

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Speaker 1: put him over center, you can put him over guard,

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Speaker 1: you can put him at an end. Fuck, you can

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Speaker 1: play tight end. I mean he was just JJ was

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Speaker 1: an unstoppable for us. Now, like you said, over the

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Speaker 1: course of a career, if TJ plays at a higher

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Speaker 1: because once JJ started getting injured, he started kind of

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Speaker 1: fell apart. It's a good question. I don't think TJ

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Speaker 1: necessarily gets docked because of his brother. I think he

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Speaker 1: gets docked because there's just a really good crop of players,

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Speaker 1: right like Miles Garrett, who won it last year, Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: Don't have to look up the defensive Players of the

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Speaker 1: Year because it's just a hard award to win. So

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Speaker 1: TJ won in twenty one, Bosa won it in twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett won it in twenty three. I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: just go off the list since jj Watt won his

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Speaker 1: first one twenty twelve, JJ Watt twenty thirteen, Luke Keikley

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, JJ Watt two has fifteen JJ Watt that's

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Speaker 1: when I saw him live. It's like, Holy Moly, twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, who I went to eight or nine Raider

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Speaker 1: games that year. I guess it would only be eight

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Speaker 1: and sixteen. I went to them all, all the home games.

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Speaker 1: He was fucking so good, uh seventeen Donald eighteen Donald nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Little Curveball Gilmour twenty, Donald twenty one, TJ. It's just hard,

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Speaker 1: it really is. I would say that JJ is a

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Speaker 1: better player than TJ in his peak, and TJ's damn good.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think there's anything wrong with You could

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Speaker 1: argue that tj' has already established himself as a as

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, which is probably not breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Couple more. I'm a lifelong Chiefs fan. I grew up

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Speaker 1: watching Derek Thomas and Neil Smith Arrowhead with my father,

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00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: good memories. I grew up watching those guys on television.

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Speaker 1: When I think Monday Night football when I was a

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Speaker 1: kid in the nineties my house in Davis, I think,

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Speaker 1: I think Chiefs Marty Schottenheimer like Chiefs Broncos ninety eight

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Speaker 1: when I was like, hold what I have been in

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Speaker 1: ninety eight fourteen. My question is this, there are some

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Speaker 1: decided drawbacks of being a winning franchise like the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Niners, of course Kansas City. You get a tougher

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Speaker 1: schedule in a lower draft position. The Chiefs are getting

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Speaker 1: what we consider a terrible bye week five, which makes

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Speaker 1: for a long second half of the year. Wouldn't it

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Speaker 1: be cool to reward the top teams with a bye

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Speaker 1: week draft where the teams are ranked after the season

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Speaker 1: is over and they go top to bottom and fill

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Speaker 1: up the bye weeks as the team selects their preference. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I think the hard part about doing that is yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs get a lot of all the

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00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: teams you named are a huge part of the business

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00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: of the league in terms of Monday Night football, Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, Thursday night football. So to make the schedule

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Speaker 1: you have to include all these thirty two teams that

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Speaker 1: you were kind of indifferent to when their buya is now.

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Shouldn't you get the benefit

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Speaker 1: of being able to choose your buy if you're good,

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Speaker 1: just like the teams that suck at the high picks.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that would be possible in terms

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Speaker 1: of the way the league does the schedule, which is

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Speaker 1: obviously very very complicated. Love the pod, really enjoy your segments.

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Speaker 1: I think Mulligan Monday would be a great addition to

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Speaker 1: the lineup. I've never understood this, so maybe you can

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Speaker 1: help me. But I don't see why teams with under

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Speaker 1: two minutes that are down more than a field goal

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Speaker 1: and just scored don't at least try an onside kick.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it make sense to give yourself two shots at

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Speaker 1: potentially getting the ball back. I was watching the Niner

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00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: Seahawks game and with one forty seven left and three timeouts,

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Speaker 1: Seattle decided to kick it deep. Is it potential field

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Speaker 1: position issue? If the team that's up, recovers the on

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Speaker 1: side kick on the forty and gets stopped. Then the

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Speaker 1: team that's down would have to start the potential game

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Speaker 1: winning drive from the twenty five or shorter, first kicking

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Speaker 1: it deep, making a stop, and getting the punt around

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Speaker 1: the forty to start the potential game winning drive. At

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Speaker 1: that point in the game, wouldn't a potential onside kick

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Speaker 1: recovery outweigh the extra fifteen yards in field position? What

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Speaker 1: am I missing? I think you're simply missing that. The

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Speaker 1: execution of an onside kick feels as likely as me

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Speaker 1: handing you an eight iron and taking you out to

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00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: a golf course and telling you to hit a hole

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Speaker 1: in one. Now, obviously I would say an onside kicks

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Speaker 1: more likely than a hole in one. But let's be real.

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Speaker 1: When we're sitting on our couch or a coach on

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Speaker 1: the sideline, the head coach, and he is forced to

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Speaker 1: do an onside kick, what level of confidence does he

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Speaker 1: have that that's gonna work. It's basically slimm to none.

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Speaker 1: And if I kick the onsidekick, the momentum of my

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Speaker 1: potential comeback. Again. I'm not talking analytics. There might be

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Speaker 1: numbers that say you should I just feel like the

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Speaker 1: what's the likelihood of an onside kick working? If I

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Speaker 1: had to guess over the last thirty years one percent?

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Speaker 1: Where what's the percentage of getting a three and out?

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Speaker 1: Now you can't just go what's the percentage of getting

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Speaker 1: a three and out over the course of twenty years,

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Speaker 1: because what's the percentage of getting a three and out

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Speaker 1: in that individual situation? It feels relatively high because most

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Speaker 1: teams are not gonna have the balls to throw it.

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Speaker 1: So if you just stop the run, even the bills

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Speaker 1: the other day, right, like, what do they do? Did

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Speaker 1: they throw it to put the nail on the coffin? No,

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Speaker 1: they did a fake handoff and then they had Josh run.

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Speaker 1: But most people and if their defensive end just keeps contained,

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Speaker 1: like his number one job, you cannot lose contain. Now,

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Speaker 1: I love when coaches say that were former players he

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Speaker 1: lost contained. Well, even if he had contained, is there

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Speaker 1: a chance that Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray or some of these guys that can really move

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Speaker 1: and juke and run by guys, you would have contained them? Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he would contain most people. But there are certain players

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Speaker 1: that even if you have contained like he had great coverage,

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Speaker 1: and then Randy Moss jumped over his head. You know

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Speaker 1: he's he had he had a good pass set and

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Speaker 1: then Khalil back lifted him off the ground and drove

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Speaker 1: him into the quarterback. I love that because people coaches like,

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Speaker 1: you gotta hold the edge. You can't bite, you can't

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Speaker 1: Well what if he didn't bite and he was just

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Speaker 1: standing there? Yeah, you give yourself a better shot, right

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Speaker 1: because you're not ten yards down the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: and the guy can just walk for it first down.

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Speaker 1: But even if you are, especially if it's like Lamar,

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Speaker 1: who you betting on? Yeah? So when on that one

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Speaker 1: we got up. Maybe I'll save some of these for

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Speaker 1: a little weekend mail bag on Friday. But let's attempt

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Speaker 1: to enjoy the Thursday night game and it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Do they de Sean Payton just get universal cheer? He should,

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Speaker 1: but he also quit on these guys, so I'm fascinated

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Speaker 1: to see the reaction, especially if he's kicking their ass,

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Speaker 1: which he might. The volume