Speaker 1: And now watch my back like.
Speaker 2: Strike water from headquarters behind him in the borders.
Speaker 1: If you're just turning in civic sack around. Your host
Speaker 1: ramsis John. I'll go by the name Q Ward, and
Speaker 1: you should sit around. You've got a lot more coming up.
Speaker 1: You're going to talk about one specific way that police
Speaker 1: are able to justify the killing of black people. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of what we talk about on the show.
Speaker 1: If you're new around here is, uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: way that police treat black bodies and black lives. And
Speaker 1: I think that it's a reflection of I think it.
Speaker 1: I think it's fear based. You know, this is me
Speaker 1: trying to be to give the officers some grace he has.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people have different opinions, but
Speaker 1: I recognize every time you say that, Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: how about we just get into it. But first let's
Speaker 1: talk about how to become a better ally. So today
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about a person named Reverend Robert W.
Speaker 1: Lee not to be confused with Robert E. Lee. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this article comes from CNN. Robert W. Lee felt
Speaker 1: like his integrity was being challenged when Confederate defenders can
Speaker 1: continue to accuse him of lying about being a distant
Speaker 1: relative of Confederate General Robert E. Lee. He proved them
Speaker 1: wrong with a four hundred page genealogy report he received
Speaker 1: in October. But the North Carolina pastor and social justice
Speaker 1: advocate says the accusations or a distraction from the difficult
Speaker 1: conversation the American needs to have about his quote. I
Speaker 1: believe it was an attempt to discredit the hard work
Speaker 1: I put into removing the statues and monuments to my ancestor,
Speaker 1: Lee Toldcien in last week. In January, Axios reviewed the
Speaker 1: genealogy report and interviewed the pastor, his father, and his grandmother.
Speaker 1: The family has consistently disputed claims by Confederate sympathizers that
Speaker 1: the social justice advocate was not related to the Confederate general.
Speaker 1: They hired a genial as just to put an end
Speaker 1: to false reports. In short, this pastor, Reverend Robert W. Lee,
Speaker 1: is a descendant of Robert E. Lee, and not only
Speaker 1: does he work to get Robert E. Lee's statues taken down,
Speaker 1: he is a social justice advocate, and he went so
Speaker 1: far as to prove that he is the distant relative
Speaker 1: of Robert E. Lee. Or I mean I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: a direct lineage, but you know relative nonetheless, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's this discus bloodline is probably not, or at
Speaker 1: least the name doesn't. The name probably follows this guy.
Speaker 1: So the Confederate sympathizers really wanted him to be on
Speaker 1: their side, and he's totally not. So that is a
Speaker 1: better ally, And if you want to become a better ally,
Speaker 1: you can take a page out of that book. So
Speaker 1: once again, shout out Robert W.
Speaker 2: Lee.
Speaker 1: Around here, we never shout out Robert E. Lee. All right,
Speaker 1: Next up, we know that when you fight the law,
Speaker 1: there's a good chance the law is going to win. Right.
Speaker 1: In fact, we have an upcoming episode that we're working
Speaker 1: on producing right now, Q and I that talks about
Speaker 1: this in depth, so you we might revisit some of
Speaker 1: these topics in the future. But suffice it to say
Speaker 1: that there are maybe ten thousand laws, federal statutes, or
Speaker 1: other things that you can do wrong that you can
Speaker 1: be arrested for, and you probably know twenty or thirty
Speaker 1: of them, right, But that means there's ten thousand opportunities
Speaker 1: for you to not know something and then get arrested
Speaker 1: for it. And if you admit that you did something
Speaker 1: or are unconfused, and you're communicating and trying your best
Speaker 1: to you know whatever. You know, if the police want
Speaker 1: a conviction, they want to take you down, they can
Speaker 1: if they get behind your car and follow you long enough,
Speaker 1: you will break a law that you didn't know existed,
Speaker 1: and they'll pull you over justifiably, and then they can
Speaker 1: interrogate you and you know, effectively do what they want.
Speaker 1: That's kind of how the laws are set up, right
Speaker 1: to privilege police officers at every conceivable point along the process.
Speaker 1: And people that know that are people that are aware
Speaker 1: of how to play the game, you know, and people
Speaker 1: that don't know that might feel like, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: just being a good person is good enough, or maybe
Speaker 1: if I just cooperate that's good enough, or maybe if
Speaker 1: I you know what, And then people there's other people
Speaker 1: who don't feel that way. They're like, no, these people
Speaker 1: are not here for me. I need to run. And
Speaker 1: we already know that you can get nine warning shots
Speaker 1: in the back as you flee the police officer because
Speaker 1: they were afraid. We've seen it happen over and over again.
Speaker 1: We might even happen again this week, So not trying
Speaker 1: to be all doom and gloom like it's a no
Speaker 1: win situation. But we have to be I see your face, dude,
Speaker 1: Well we have to deal with the real around here. Right.
Speaker 1: So something that I found interesting was the ways that
Speaker 1: officers can defend themselves, and one that stood out to
Speaker 1: me was how police shoot into a fleeing car. Right.
Speaker 1: I would love to see how they are able to
Speaker 1: excuse a person running away on foot. But they have
Speaker 1: a way that they they have advantages if they end
Speaker 1: up on the bench in a courtroom trying to justify
Speaker 1: their actions. So I'll read. This comes from the New
Speaker 1: York Times and the contributors were Kim Barker, Steve E.
Speaker 1: Dare and David Kirkpatrick and Ariya Sundrum. Right, so this
Speaker 1: time's investigation was into a common defense for shooting motorists
Speaker 1: that found that some officers had put themselves in danger
Speaker 1: or others appear to face no peril at all. Right.
Speaker 1: This comes from Phoenix City, Alabama. They spell it differently,
Speaker 1: So on a Sunday in May twenty seventeen, a patrol
Speaker 1: car sat outside the city's oldest public housing project. Housing
Speaker 1: projects are basically the projects, and I'm sure everyone knows
Speaker 1: what the projects are. So police car was sitting outside
Speaker 1: of the projects waiting for anyone acting suspiciously. How about
Speaker 1: that the two police officers heard Cedric Mifflin before they
Speaker 1: saw him, blasting music from a silver Mercury Grand Marquee.
Speaker 1: That sounds about right, projects grandmar Quys. Okay, Then they
Speaker 1: tried to pull him over. He wasn't wearing a seatbelt.
Speaker 1: Mister Mifflin, a twenty seven year old black man, kept driving.
Speaker 1: What happened next is disputed, naturally, but how it ended
Speaker 1: as certain officer Michael Sievers leapt out of the patrol car,
Speaker 1: drew his gun and fired sixteen times at the moving car.
Speaker 1: He thought mister Mifflin intended to run him over, he
Speaker 1: said later, Now, from what I've seen, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: which direction you're driving, because in some places, the way
Speaker 1: the laws are written, they can say you are going
Speaker 1: to hit another person. They could say you were going
Speaker 1: to hit me if you're even if you're fleeing. Do
Speaker 1: you see how it's it's written in such a way.
Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about their like the police
Speaker 1: conduct codes where they can't be held accountable for those
Speaker 1: sorts of things, Right, and you need to know this
Speaker 1: because we all need to know the world that we're
Speaker 1: living in. We need to know that if we don't
Speaker 1: know this, then we think maybe if I get away,
Speaker 1: I can live to see another day. Right, And it
Speaker 1: might make you stop and think. Now, granted, this is
Speaker 1: an Alabama situation, and not everyone lives in Alabama, but
Speaker 1: these types of things are very much commonplace. Police officers
Speaker 1: teach their children how to react to police very differently.
Speaker 1: All Right, an investigation into traffic stops across America and
Speaker 1: the deaths of hundreds of motorists at the hands of police. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's one of the the I guess statutes or rules
Speaker 1: or whatever. Personnel as the police shall adhere to the
Speaker 1: following restrictions when their weapon is exhibited. I think that
Speaker 1: means like drawing their weapon. Okay, Officers should not fire
Speaker 1: their weapons from or at a moving vehicle unless circumstances
Speaker 1: require otherwise. See how big that.
Speaker 3: Is, unless circumstances require otherwise.
Speaker 1: See how big that is. And this is the Scott's
Speaker 1: the Scott County Sheriff's office in Iowa, and that's the
Speaker 1: among the shortest and Vegas policies about shooting at moving
Speaker 1: vehicles that this Times article found and you got to know,
Speaker 1: so almost everything that is related to policing and and
Speaker 1: the criminal justice system in this country is it disproportionately
Speaker 1: affects black people, right, and black people are oftentimes at
Speaker 1: the bottom. We talked about that in the first part
Speaker 1: of the show. You know, black people are oftentimes at
Speaker 1: the bottom, and we have to be resilient, and we
Speaker 1: are resilient people. But that doesn't mean that we don't
Speaker 1: see it. We don't see like how like you know,
Speaker 1: I know white folks, some white folks were like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as white privilege. I wasn't born
Speaker 1: with a million dollar check. And of course with white privilege,
Speaker 1: that's not what that's about. White privilege is not being
Speaker 1: born with a couple strikes against you. You get a
Speaker 1: clean slate when you start right anyway. But for some
Speaker 1: of us, seeing white people interact with the police is
Speaker 1: like a superpower. I was jogging today and I saw
Speaker 1: there was two ladies that were talking to the police
Speaker 1: on purpose. They were just just having a conversation. It
Speaker 1: was crazy, And for me, I'm like, oh, man, if
Speaker 1: the police are around, I need to make sure that
Speaker 1: nobody's afraid. I need to make sure they're not here
Speaker 1: for me. I know I didn't do anything wrong, but
Speaker 1: that's just the reality of the world that we live in, right,
Speaker 1: It's not paranoia. It's like the reality, actual lived reality.
Speaker 1: We've been picked on by the police, collect together and
Speaker 1: apart and separately, and all that I've been picked.
Speaker 3: On by the police while feeding the homeless.
Speaker 1: I remember that. And I think that what this does
Speaker 1: is this hopefully helps suggest to you listening what it
Speaker 1: must feel like to be a black person, how it
Speaker 1: feels to be a black person everybody. It's like we
Speaker 1: talked earlier about black lives. We have to say black
Speaker 1: lives matter, because otherwise, if we just look into our environments,
Speaker 1: look at the news, and look at these sorts of things,
Speaker 1: it feels like black lives don't matter. That's how it feels.
Speaker 1: And I think sharing what it feels like to be
Speaker 1: a black person in America is very important. And you know,
Speaker 1: around the world, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's it's it's important to point that out right,
Speaker 3: like white supremacy and racism are not just prevalent here.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been watching the news, as you know,
Speaker 3: things around the world are very contentious and downright scary.
Speaker 3: Right now, if you're paying attention to the coverage of
Speaker 3: the you know, the conflict in Ukraine, and I'm listening
Speaker 3: to the reporters from all of these different places around
Speaker 3: the world that are covering that conflict in that story,
Speaker 3: and the reason that they're so caught off guard by it,
Speaker 3: or so appalled by it, or so in shock or
Speaker 3: just otherwise feel it's something unordinary, it is because the
Speaker 3: people involved are white. Mmm, they're white European people. And
Speaker 3: the reporters, you know, professional journalists that are covering this
Speaker 3: thing see fit to point out like, hey, we need
Speaker 3: to let you guys know this stuff isn't happening, and
Speaker 3: list some country where the people are brown, right, as
Speaker 3: if if it was happening there, you shouldn't be shocked,
Speaker 3: Like this stuff happens there all the time. In any
Speaker 3: place that's popping to your head as you're listening to me, Yeah,
Speaker 3: those places, Afghanistan, anywhere where the people aren't white Christians,
Speaker 3: we should expect that, but not these are. These are
Speaker 3: European people. They look like eyes, Yeah, they have blonde
Speaker 3: hair there, they have blue eyes, look like us. These
Speaker 3: people are saying this and they don't feel like they're
Speaker 3: saying anything wrong, you know. And then you look at
Speaker 3: you know, on the ground. While most people have a
Speaker 3: sentimental view of what Ukrainians are going through, but even
Speaker 3: as they're being persecuted, you know, you look at people
Speaker 3: trying to flee the country and African students in Ukraine
Speaker 3: being refused and exit, being put off of charters and
Speaker 3: buses and trains trying to get over the border and
Speaker 3: out of the country.
Speaker 1: They have to go to the back of the line
Speaker 1: in fact.
Speaker 3: And not just that, if they're already on, they have
Speaker 3: to get off. So this is not unique to America.
Speaker 3: We've just mastered it here. Yeah, you know, well.
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said about that because
Speaker 1: in America, you know, and we all have a way
Speaker 1: to contribute to American society in a very small way.
Speaker 1: So this is all of our responsibility in America. Our
Speaker 1: American culture is the de facto global culture. Right, if
Speaker 1: it comes from America, it's right, it's cool. It's pop,
Speaker 1: the movies, the music, you know, that's black music, by
Speaker 1: the way, but say that, but if it comes from America,
Speaker 1: then it's the best. You know. Oh, you're in America.
Speaker 1: We have been around the world. I've seen it. You know,
Speaker 1: Oh you're American. I've seen people come to America. It
Speaker 1: is America, you know. I heard. That's a that's an
Speaker 1: actual story I can tell. And so if Americans, if
Speaker 1: we perhaps I'll say it this way, if we were
Speaker 1: born into a culture that doesn't value black life, that
Speaker 1: doesn't appreciate our Mexican brothers and sisters, you know, and
Speaker 1: the fact that at least in the part of the
Speaker 1: country where we live, this is where they're from, right
Speaker 1: and our Native brothers and sisters, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If we have a culture like that, and we allow
Speaker 1: that culture to persist, and we do not challenge that culture,
Speaker 1: then we should never be shocked when we see in
Speaker 1: Ukraine that they don't value black life. We have to
Speaker 1: accept responsibility for our influence over the global culture as well.
Speaker 1: Now you might argue with me, well, no Britain did this,
Speaker 1: and France is a lot older of the country. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: And if I go there, I will tell them about
Speaker 1: themselves too. I'm really good at that. Actually, acuse a
Speaker 1: little better at it, but I'm not bad. But we're
Speaker 1: here in the United States of America, you might think
Speaker 1: this is the greatest country in the world. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be mad at you for thinking that, provided that you
Speaker 1: challenged it to continually improve. You have that Mamba mentality
Speaker 1: where the best only means that you need to get better.
Speaker 1: And if you feel like that, then yes, you can
Speaker 1: tell me that America is the best country in the
Speaker 1: world because you are challenging the country to be better.
Speaker 3: And I guess for some people it is though. Talk
Speaker 3: to them, right, like, if the country suits your needs,
Speaker 3: everything about the way the country is constructed, the way
Speaker 3: the laws are enforced, the way society responds to you. Right,
Speaker 3: if you're Jeff Bezos, this is the best country in
Speaker 3: the world. Yeah, right, if you're the if you're the
Speaker 3: if you fit the status qull right, if you are
Speaker 3: the heterosexual, Christian white man and you just so happen
Speaker 3: to be rich, there is no There is no better
Speaker 3: place on earth than here. Sure, right that so that
Speaker 3: statement can't be blanketed in a way that it applies
Speaker 3: to every citizen that lives here. And that lack of accountability,
Speaker 3: I think is what kind of rubs us both wrong.
Speaker 3: If you're going to hold us up as the best
Speaker 3: nation in the world. We should be constantly proving that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you didn't become the best three hundred years ago, and
Speaker 3: you're still the best because of that. If you haven't
Speaker 3: improved since then, if you haven't made strives to make
Speaker 3: the land of the free and the home of the brave,
Speaker 3: if you hadn't gone out of your way to make
Speaker 3: that true for everyone that caused themselves a citizen here,
Speaker 3: then you can't hold that flag up until the rest
Speaker 3: of the world. How much better than them you are.
Speaker 1: I want to add to that, because you said something
Speaker 1: really important three hundred years ago, right, and every citizen. So,
Speaker 1: there were a group of citizens three hundred years ago
Speaker 1: who afforded this country it's economic status, superpower status, right.
Speaker 1: And what I mean specifically is that there were black
Speaker 1: bodies brought over here to do the labor, and that
Speaker 1: labor built this country and built this country's wealth. And
Speaker 1: for black people to charge the country with doing better,
Speaker 1: for Kaepernick to kneel, I think that's fair. And for
Speaker 1: people to say, no, you have to leave this country.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, No, that's not what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: We love Africa, sure in the romantic sense, but this
Speaker 1: is home. I was born in California. Those are the
Speaker 1: beaches that I go to, you know, and I think
Speaker 1: it's dismissive when people adopt arguments like that, you know,
Speaker 1: the only thing that we're trying to do. Again, you've
Speaker 1: never heard of like any real realistic like race, you know,
Speaker 1: like black people aren't looking for revenge or anything that.
Speaker 1: It's like, listen, man, Ever since W. E. B. Du Bois,
Speaker 1: there was the ask to be treated equally, the ask
Speaker 1: to allow us our value as conscious beings. Who's whose
Speaker 1: consciousness was endowed to us from a common creator, whoever
Speaker 1: you believe that to be. We all come from that
Speaker 1: same creator, right, We're just like, we just want to
Speaker 1: be treated fairly. We would like for our lives to
Speaker 1: have some value in society. It may not have value
Speaker 1: in your home specifically, but if there's a government in place.
Speaker 1: You know, for hundreds of years we've been asking for that. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess not hundreds, but at least a hundred.
Speaker 3: Now you can say hundreds we've been asking for it, sure, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I mean eighteen one hundred and fifty of like
Speaker 3: normal asks. It hadn't been a realistic ask at once.
Speaker 1: But but you get the point. I'm making so so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said about absolutely taking
Speaker 1: some responsibility for the goings on in other countries in
Speaker 1: the way that those other countries treat melanated individuals. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Andre three thousand was the one who wore
Speaker 1: a shirt on stage at one of his last performances.
Speaker 1: It's had to have been years ago, but you know,
Speaker 1: Andre three thousand of outcasts. Hopefully you know that name
Speaker 1: if you're listening to us, But he says on the
Speaker 1: shirt it said something to the effect effectually said around
Speaker 1: the world, darker skinned people get treated worse. And then
Speaker 1: it asked a question why, And I just remember, you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny what a man recollects. I remember that shirt
Speaker 1: just stood out to me. I was like, man, he's
Speaker 1: on stage and he's really putting that question out there.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a real ask, maybe he wanted to know.
Speaker 1: But I do believe that we do bear some responsibility
Speaker 1: if we live in the dominant culture, and if you're
Speaker 1: listening to us, then we count you as an ally
Speaker 1: and we lean on you to help take the conversations
Speaker 1: that we have in this room into your friend circles
Speaker 1: and into your homes, at your kitchen tables with your
Speaker 1: grandfathers and your grandmothers, who you know, maybe they're you know,
Speaker 1: they've supported the last president because he could, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe bolster their wallets or their checkbooks, and they maybe
Speaker 1: didn't give too much thought to the human beings who
Speaker 1: might be affected by his speech and maybe even his policies.
Speaker 1: People had to live with that. You know, we're based
Speaker 1: in the southwest of the United States, so that border
Speaker 1: wall he was talking about, that's right in our backyard.
Speaker 1: And the people that we know and love and interact
Speaker 1: with on a day to day basis, they had to
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of they felt like they were
Speaker 1: under attack. We talked about black suicide in the last segment.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very easy to feel like you're under attack,
Speaker 1: and so let's all take responsibility. And I know we
Speaker 1: got a little bit sidetracked here, but also when it
Speaker 1: comes to interacting with the police, I think that we
Speaker 1: really just wanted you to know that there's a lot
Speaker 1: more ways that police are able to justify their actions.
Speaker 1: We know that these are just excuses. These are these
Speaker 1: these are there's not a real threat. Here's the cars
Speaker 1: driving away from None of those things are real. But
Speaker 1: the way the law works in this country, the laws
Speaker 1: work in this country. They privilege police officers and allow
Speaker 1: them the exit and then they get a pat on
Speaker 1: the back. Believe it or not, you're a good cop.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have gone through that, and so forth, and
Speaker 1: so you just need to know these things. I'm not
Speaker 1: knocking on police officers, the out officers. They're human beings.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the institutions and I have to and
Speaker 1: don't at me. And I think now it's time for
Speaker 1: the way Black History fact. So we'll do that. So
Speaker 1: the way Black History back today comes from blackhistory dot Com. Wick.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't know what the WICH program is, but
Speaker 1: I do. Do you know what the WICK program is? Indeed?
Speaker 1: All right? So I grew up poor and the WI
Speaker 1: program was a term that I heard a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: my family was poor. You know, it didn't always live
Speaker 1: the life I live now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And the WIG program, for those that don't know, WICH
Speaker 1: stands for Women, Infant, and Children. It's a federal nutrition
Speaker 1: program to help families of all races across the country
Speaker 1: with low cost food products. Like it says, it's just
Speaker 1: a government program. It's not quite food stamps or welfare.
Speaker 1: Maybe it is welfare. I'm not sure it's a qualifies it,
Speaker 1: but it's the WICK program. And again women infant in children. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the biggest group of recipients of welfare is white women,
Speaker 1: poor white women, just so you know. So we're not
Speaker 1: talking about black people specifically today, of course we are,
Speaker 1: but in terms of welfare, most of the money goes
Speaker 1: to poor white women with kids, and rightfully sell because
Speaker 1: that's a huge chunk the much bigger chunk of the
Speaker 1: population than black women they have you believe otherwise. How Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know the way the narrative pain. So we
Speaker 1: have to That's what we're here to do, is to
Speaker 1: challenge all that nonsense that these other people get off
Speaker 1: all the time. And they got the right one for
Speaker 1: it too, because we'll be doing that, all right. So
Speaker 1: the Wick program was created by the Black Panther Party
Speaker 1: in the late nineteen sixties. Now not as such, but
Speaker 1: the free breakfast program, which we might have some time
Speaker 1: to get into in schools, how they have a free
Speaker 1: free breakfast program in the morning that was taken adopted
Speaker 1: by the government and implemented in schools across the country
Speaker 1: free breakfast for kids, because the Black Panthers were doing
Speaker 1: the same thing about this Wick program, right, so we
Speaker 1: will say that it was created by the Black Panther
Speaker 1: Party in the late nineteen sixties. Some of the foods
Speaker 1: that are a part of the WIG program or milk, eggs, yogurt, wheat, bread,
Speaker 1: cheese and more. All right, According to Gabrie Scott, a
Speaker 1: respected lecturer and historian, other programs that are that the
Speaker 1: Black Panther Party created where the free free breakfast program,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, for hungry children, free health clinic, pre
Speaker 1: employment program, free ambulance program, ged classes, visiting nurses program,
Speaker 1: in much more. The most popular one was the free
Speaker 1: breakfast program that started in nineteen sixty nine by the
Speaker 1: leadership of founder is Bobby Seal and Hugh Knew. The
Speaker 1: initial purpose of the Black Panther Party's establishment was to
Speaker 1: fight police's brutality and exercise the rights to self defense.
Speaker 1: What began as a revolutionary organization quickly turned into a
Speaker 1: social organization as well. Naturally, they fed free breakfast to
Speaker 1: thousands of children before school. He gained so much attention
Speaker 1: that the politics and revolutionary taxes of the Black Panthers
Speaker 1: were less threatening and intimidating to the government than the
Speaker 1: free mills they were giving out. However, did not stop
Speaker 1: FBI Director j edber j Edgar Hoover from organizing a
Speaker 1: counter intel counterintelligence program, which is counter intel pro to
Speaker 1: sabotage and destroyed the Black Panther Party and everything they
Speaker 1: had established. And I believe he was the same person,
Speaker 1: Jayed Hoover that said the it was like the greatest
Speaker 1: threat to American democracy or something like that was the
Speaker 1: free breakfast program by the Black Panther Party for self defense.
Speaker 1: But yes, the Whig program is another such program that
Speaker 1: was born from the It's a legacy program of the Panthers.
Speaker 1: And what the government would do is so that people
Speaker 1: would not sympathize with the Panthers. You know, if you
Speaker 1: are if you didn't grow up black, or maybe if
Speaker 1: you did, but if you didn't grow up black, we'll
Speaker 1: say there's a much higher chance that the history that
Speaker 1: has been taught to you about the Black Panthers has
Speaker 1: caused you to be afraid of black power. Right, And
Speaker 1: that's funny because black power and power to all people
Speaker 1: or two of their their famous like slogans. But the
Speaker 1: one thing the government didn't want was people empathize with
Speaker 1: the panthers because the government didn't need black power, black
Speaker 1: or organization. The government needed black subjugation. Right, And these
Speaker 1: are well documented things. This isn't just rams, it's just
Speaker 1: rattling off some new stuff. This is like, I've been
Speaker 1: knowing this since I was born.
Speaker 3: You've been knowing this as you were born. So it's
Speaker 3: the type of thing that can make your stomach urt.
Speaker 3: Sure when you get into the truth and the facts
Speaker 3: behind the director of the FBI, it's heavy. You know,
Speaker 3: somebody that's supposed to be our most trusted and.
Speaker 1: Advising the president of these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other you know, elected officials going out
Speaker 3: of their way, as you as you said, to shape
Speaker 3: a very negative narrative because the last thing they needed
Speaker 3: was empathy, sympathy and support around intelligent, empowered, sophisticated black people.
Speaker 3: We have to make them out to be lawless savages.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy. That's the same thing they did they're
Speaker 1: trying to do with Black Lives Matter. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're outspoken and revolutionary and they have strong language, but
Speaker 1: it's not meant to suggest that, like man, people got
Speaker 1: to get less scared. Everyone is so scared they try
Speaker 1: to wrap it in fear. It is not that. But
Speaker 1: that's a different show I have. You know, I know
Speaker 1: you get on me all the time, que but that's
Speaker 1: that's how I say it.
Speaker 3: I mean, just like we said, the vehicle's driving that way.
Speaker 3: It's very, very difficult to convince me you shot that
Speaker 3: car sixteen times because you were afraid it was going
Speaker 3: to harm you as it's driving away from you.
Speaker 1: That's that's the wildest thing. I do. Want to read this.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit more of the same, but this
Speaker 1: one comes from Wikipedia, just because I want to impress
Speaker 1: this upon you. The Free Breakfast Program for school children
Speaker 1: was a community service. They focused on providing breakfast before school.
Speaker 1: The breakfast It began at Father Earl A. Neils Saint
Speaker 1: Augustine Episcopal Church located in West Oakland, California, and bread
Speaker 1: throughout the nation and early. It was an early manifestation
Speaker 1: of the social mission envisioned by Black Panther founders Huey
Speaker 1: Newton and Bobby Seel, along with the founding of their
Speaker 1: founding of the Oakland Community School, which provided high level
Speaker 1: education to a one hundred and fifty children from impoverished
Speaker 1: urban neighborhoods. The breakfast formed the core of what became
Speaker 1: known as the party's survival programs. Inspired by contemporary research
Speaker 1: about the essential role for breakfast for optimal schooling and
Speaker 1: the belief that alleviating hunger and poverty was necessary for
Speaker 1: black liberation, the Panthers cooked and serve food to poor
Speaker 1: inner city youth of the area. The service created community
Speaker 1: centers of various cities for children and parents to simultaneously
Speaker 1: eat and learn more about Black liberation and the Black
Speaker 1: Panther Party's efforts. That's the Black Panthers. If the police
Speaker 1: drive to your neighborhood and they are looking for a
Speaker 1: black person to hurt, which was the reality than the
Speaker 1: black people using exercising their Second Amendment, organized bought some
Speaker 1: guns and says no, we're going to fight back. What
Speaker 1: do you do when we're under attack? Stand up, fight back.
Speaker 1: I forget the chance. Don't all the people at march
Speaker 1: with don't get mad at me. I haven't chanted in
Speaker 1: a while. But but yeah, again, it's important that we
Speaker 1: know this and we talk about it and we dispel
Speaker 1: some of the fears associated with you know, black history,
Speaker 1: Black panthers of course, and maybe even Black Lives Matter now,
Speaker 1: because it's not meant to harm anyone. It's meant to
Speaker 1: uplift some people and to demand it. And the demand,
Speaker 1: I think is the part that might sound scary to
Speaker 1: some people. If you're not one of those people, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you. But our time is up, So once again,
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