1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interact, a broker's studios. This is Bloomberg 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Daybreak for Friday, April fourteenth. Coming up today, and arrest 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: in the Pentagon leak raises new questions about America's secrets. 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: President Biden wraps up his Irish tour with twenty twenty 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: four in mind. Bank earnings begin with JP Morgan, Chase Citygroup, 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: and Wells Fargo all reporting and retail sales camp off 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: a busy week of economic data. Sooner he drops the 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: sat of Donald Trump deposed in New York for nearly 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: seven hours. I'm John Tucker. Those stories straight ahead, and 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Schwartzman. The Yankees get tramps by the Twins 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: in the Bronx. I'll have that more coming up in sports. 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak, The business news 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: you need disturn your day, and just one fifteen minute 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: podcast each pointing on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App, 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: and everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Nathan 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Cameron Moscow. Here are the stories we're 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: following today. We begin with major developments in the classified 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Pentagon Leak, a twenty one year old airman is under 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: arrest and now the US government is in an awkward position. 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's at Baxter has the story Jack Deschara is classified 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: as a cyber transport system journeyman. Education requirement high school degree, 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: driver's license, up to eighteen months of on job training. 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: How did he have access to the documents? Pentagon spokesman 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Brigadier General pat Ryder, this was a deliberate criminal act, 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: violation of those guidelines. And White House spokesman when Karein 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Jean Pierre. The Department of Defense has said they have 27 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: taken steps to further restrict access to sensitive information. It 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: will be interesting to gauge international response in the coming days. 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: In San Francisco, I'm at Baxter, Bloomberg day Break. All right, 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: thanks with a document leaks overshadowed President Biden strip to Ireland. 31 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: The White House says the President has been briefed on 32 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: it as he stays focused on his Irish heritage. If 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: if we gave him the poor attempt at Irish tomy 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: shaw WAYA, I'm at home. The President addressed the Irish 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: Parliament in Dublin yesterday, then took part in a banquet 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: dinner with Prime Minister Leo varadker Brian said the US 37 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: will work with Ireland to promote shared values, especially as 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: we marked the twenty fifth anniversary the Good Friday Agreements 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: this week. Above all, remember the vital and ceaseless work 40 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: of strengthening democracy to deliver progress for our people everywhere. 41 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: And on this final day of his visit, President Biden 42 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: will speak at a cathedral and County Mayo. It's made 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: of brick sold by a distant relative. Let's turn to 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: the markets now, Karen. The economy and interest rates have 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: been in focus all this week. Today we get our 46 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: first snapshot at bank earning since the recent turmoil. We 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: get more from Bloomberg Global Finance correspondent Shinali Bask. There 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: are a lot of questions for JP Morgan City Group 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: and Wells Fargo for how much they bought an in 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: deposit during this big move away from the regional banks 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: in the first quarter of this year. PNC is also 52 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: reporting today, so investors will have questions on whether there's 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: a credit crunch and whether regional banks have the propensity 54 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: to lend to the economy when the economy looks like 55 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: it's getting tough. We'll be watching for provisions for loan 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: losses to see if the banks are preparing for tougher 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: times ahead, and we'll be watching for their economic commentary 58 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: as well. And Bloomberg Shinali Bassek says look for JP, 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Morgan and Wells Fargo earnings around seven am. Wall Street 60 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Time Citygroup reports at eight well one of the stocks 61 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: hit hardest during the banking turmoil, Nathan maybe under more 62 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: pressure today. A top investor has exited his entire position 63 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: in Charles Schwab. The Financial Times is reporting Rajeev Jane's 64 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: g a QG partner sold its entire one point four 65 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: billion dollars stake during last month's turmoil, and Schwab's shares 66 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: have lost nearly a third of their value since March. 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Well after a pair of key inflation reports this week, Karen, 68 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: we wrap up the week with the March reading on 69 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: retail sales. Monomists are forecasting a decline of four tenths 70 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: of a percent. We get a preview from Bloomberg's Michael 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: McKee March malaise the analysts are calling it and expected 72 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: drop in retail sales last month as consumer sentiment turned 73 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: sour and tax refunds fell twenty five billion dollars in 74 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: March compared with the same month a year ago. Banks 75 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: have reported falling credit card receipts and stores reports slower sales. 76 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Auto sales also dropped during the month. The Fed end 77 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Global Wall Street have been anxiously watching consumer spending for science. 78 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: The economy is slowing down. If the sales numbers prove 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: that out, then the question flips to how much and 80 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: how fast it's slowing and whether the Fed needs to 81 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: raise interest rates again. Michael McKee Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Mike, thanks, 82 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: So global stocks are heading for their highest clothes in 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: ten weeks ahead of the retail sales report and bank earnings. 84 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: But despite the recent rally, one of Wall Street's biggest 85 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: bears remains bearish in the short term. Mike Wilson and 86 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley says, the S and P five hundred is 87 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: heading lower. We put those targets of three thirty three 88 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: hundred for a trough for this cycle in May of 89 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: last year. Okay, so that that has not changed. And 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: but you know, calling the price scan the time, I mean, 91 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: it's hard enough to get one right, to get both right. 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: I think it is tricky so we've been wrong on 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: the timing for sure, but it doesn't change our view 94 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: that that low end of the range, that path two 95 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: thirty nine hundred, we think still goes through kind of 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: low three thousands ultimately, and that thirty nine hundred price 97 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: target for Morgan Stanley's Mike Wilson is about six percent 98 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: below yesterday's close for the S and P over learning 99 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: more about a meeting in Washington this week here in 100 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: between Fedchair J Powell and People's Bank of China Governor 101 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: Ye Gong. Amy Morris has that from our Bloomberg ninety 102 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: nine one news erm in Washington. They met on Tuesday 103 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: during the World Bank and IMF Spring meetings, and while 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: the PBOC did not provide much detail, it did say 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: that Ye and Powell discussed the economic and financial situations 106 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: in the world's two largest economies. It was their first 107 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: one on one talk since twenty twenty, when Powell spoke 108 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: with Ye for seventeen minutes by phone. Their last in 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: person meeting was in twenty nineteen, on able to meet 110 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: in person since then, in part because China had imposed 111 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: strict border restrictions to contain the spread of COVID in Washington. 112 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: I maymy more as Bloomberg Daybreak, Amy, thank you, and 113 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: shares a bowing down four and a half percent in 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: early trading. Let's find out why with Bloomberg, Steve Rappaport, 115 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: Steve Karen Nathan. The aircraft maker says it's pausing deliveries 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: of some Max Jets because of a problem involving fittings 117 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: that attached the plane's vertical tale to the rear end 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: of the fuselage. The Max Jets were grounded worldwide in 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen after a pair of deadly crashes. The company 120 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: this week reported a surgeon quarterly deliveries, outpacing rival Airbus 121 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: for the first time in nearly five years. Live in 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: New York, I'm Steve Rappaport, Bloomberg Daybreak. Thanks Steve, This 123 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg. Seventy one degrees in New York, one more 124 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: warm day before the weekend. We'll get up to the 125 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: low eighties today and get down to around sixty tonight. 126 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Take a look at some of the other stories making 127 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: news in New York and around the world with Bloomberg's 128 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: John Tucker. Good morning, John, Yeah, Good morning to Nathan. 129 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: The State University of New York dropping SAT test requirements. 130 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: Let's find out more in this report with Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 131 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: John Sunny's board has unanimously voted to do away with 132 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: the admissions requirement for the SAT and the ACT, and 133 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: this goes for its dozens of campuses throughout the state. 134 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: The requirement had already been temporarily suspended during the pandemic, 135 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: and the National Center for Fair and Open Testing says 136 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: about eighty percent of US colleges and universities were already 137 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: test optional for undergrad's last fall. Sunny's enrollment has been 138 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: shrinking and fewer high school students have been taking the 139 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: standardized test, particularly among historically underrepresented students. John Our Bloomberg's 140 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 1: Deunise Pellegrini. Former President Donald Trump defending his real estate 141 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: business during a seven hour deposition with New York Attorney 142 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: General Letitia James, he defined expectations that he would plead 143 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: his Fifth Amendment right. James sued Trump, three of his kids, 144 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: and his company in September for two hundred and fifty 145 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: million dollars, alleging linked the inflated the value of his 146 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: assets for years. New York's all reduced a budget being 147 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: held up by legislative leaders wrangling with Governor Hokeel over 148 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: her proposal to toughen pre trial detention policies. That story 149 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: in this report from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellet. It is the 150 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: second consecutive year that Hockel has slipped changes to bail 151 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: policies into negotiations with fellow Democrats over the states more 152 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: than two hundred and twenty billion dollar budget. The spending 153 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: plan was due April first, and lawmakers have passed two 154 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: extensions that will keep the government functioning through April seventeenth, 155 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: but it is unclear when a deal might be reached. 156 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: In New York, Charlie Pellet, Bloomberg Daybreak pro Publica reporting 157 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and relatives sold three Georgia 158 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: properties that include Thomas's boyhood home to GOP mega donner 159 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: Harlan Crowe in twenty fourteen. In March, the first known 160 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: instance where money flow to the High Court justice from 161 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the same Texas real estate magnate who has provided him 162 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: with lavish trips around the world. The Republican dominated Florida 163 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: legislature on Thursday approved a ban on abortions after six 164 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: weeks of pregnancy. A Proposals signed it a law later 165 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: in the day by GOP Governor Ron De Santis as 166 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: he prepares for an expended presidential run. The six week 167 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: band will take effect only if the state's current fifteen 168 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: week ban is upheld in an ongoing legal challenge that 169 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: is before the state's Supreme Court. At Meta planning to 170 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: invite teenagers and young adults to join its Metaverse app 171 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: in the coming months, but dozens of advocacy organizations and kids' 172 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: safety experts have signed a letter as sent to Meta 173 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: CEO Mark Zuckerberg asking him to terminate the plans. They 174 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: argue miners will face harassment and privacy violations. Global News 175 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, powered by more than twenty 176 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: seven hundred journalists and analysts and more than one hundred 177 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: twenty countries. I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg, Nathan. Thank you, John. 178 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: Time now for our Bloomberg Sports update for that bringing 179 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Dan Shortzman. Good morning, Nathan. The Yankees opening up a 180 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: four game series in the Bronx versus Minnesota as the 181 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Twins dominated Hi driving kids and deep going back chucks. 182 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: He's on the track, He's at that's courtesy of the 183 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: S Network. Minnesota hitting four total home runs in the 184 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: eleven to two win. Game two A's tonight, as it 185 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: will be Nestor Cortez on the Hill from New York 186 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: versus Tyler Mallley for the Twins. Matt's opened up a 187 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: ten game West Coast swing at Oaklands after an off 188 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: day with Kodai Sanga on the Hill versus James Kapellian. 189 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: It is the Nets and Nick's getting in their playoffs 190 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: un to weigh on Saturday, broken on the road at 191 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. Tip Off is at one pm. 192 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: Knicks playing game one of their opening round of the 193 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: playoffs in Cleveland versus the Cavaliers. Tip off schedule for 194 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: six pm. Calves are the four seed in the East, 195 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: the Knicks being the five seed. Rangers losing their regular 196 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: season finale three to two at home to the Toronto 197 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Maple Leafs as Toronto scores three times in the third period. Meanwhile, 198 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: the Devil's coming back from a four to two third 199 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: periods to knock off the Washington Capitals in overtime five 200 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: to four, Luke Hughes scoring the winner his first career 201 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: NHL Goal New Jersey. Capping off their regular season with 202 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: the most wins and points in franchise history. The Devil's 203 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: and Rangers will be meeting in the first round of 204 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs on Dan Schwartzman Bloomberg Sports Live from coast 205 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: to coast, from New York to San Francisco, Boston to Washington, 206 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: d C. Nationwide on Sirius XAM, the Bloomberg Business app, 207 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. 208 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Hager, a twenty one year old member of 209 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: the Air National Guard, is due to appear in court 210 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: today to answer for one of the biggest leaks of 211 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: US intelligence since Edward Snowden. The arrest of a junior 212 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: level Defense Department employee in the Pentagon League is raising 213 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: serious questions about the security of America's secrets and putting 214 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: the US government in a very awkward position to try 215 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: to answer them. For more, We're joined by Bloomberg News 216 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: Executive editor for International Government, Rosalind mathieson Good morning. First off, 217 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: what more do we know about this suspect Jack Tashira, Well, 218 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: not a lot, as you say. He's a very he's 219 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: a young man and having a fairly junior position, but however, 220 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: he had access to one of the highest classifications that 221 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: involved extensive vetting. He had access to very very top 222 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: level information that he was seemingly sharing with his friends 223 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: to try and get more friends. It doesn't appear that 224 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: he was doing this out of any effort to sort 225 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: of cultivate relationships with other countries or to go against 226 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: the US government. It was simply because he thought it 227 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: would make him look cool with his friends, and so 228 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: he was sharing very very sensitive information with them on 229 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: different platforms, and quite a lot of it. It seems 230 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: that turns out even more of it is still coming 231 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: out now, so we'll know more, of course, as time 232 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: goes on. We've had a very quick arraignment. Obviously he's 233 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: going to appear in court very soon and we'll find 234 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: out more at that point. But it does seem that 235 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: there was no great malign intent here, aside from to simply, oh, 236 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: I've got access to a lot of very very interesting, 237 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: high level I want to tell my friends about it. Well, 238 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: that raises the obvious question of who else could have 239 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: that same kind of access, and who else could have 240 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: an even more malign motivation to put it out there. Well, 241 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: that's right, because what we know is as of October 242 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, about three million people had permission to access 243 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: classified documents in the US. Of course, there were real 244 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: efforts after the September eleven attacks to sort of share 245 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: intelligence much more widely classified documents within the US and beyond. 246 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: And again in the run up to the Russia's invasion 247 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: of Ukraine, you saw widespread sharing of intelligence and classified 248 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: information quite publicly to some extent, by the US and 249 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: other Western allies to sort of warn Russia against invading, 250 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: saying we can see what you're doing and we know 251 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: what your intent is. And so it's become in a 252 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: way more normalized to have some of this information floating 253 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: around in the public domain. But the fact that at 254 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: least three million people as of October twenty nineteen, potentially 255 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: much more now since the war has been going on, 256 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: have access to these documents, the question is do any 257 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: of those have different kinds of intentions, perhaps to share 258 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: that information with other countries, with figures and other countries, 259 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: and not just with their friends. Well, even if this 260 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: relative spread of access could be normalized, we have seen 261 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: a pretty fierce reaction already even before the arrest, from 262 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: South Korean opposition leaders as well as Ukraine, saying that 263 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: Russia could be a beneficiary of some of these disclosures. 264 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: What further international fallout could we see now that we 265 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: do have an arrest in this case. Well, it's interesting 266 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: because you do see some public airing of disquiet, but 267 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: it's also a bit muted publicly that I don't really 268 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: want to call out the US too heavily. The reality 269 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: is that pretty much every country spies on every other country, 270 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: and they spy on each other, even if they're allies. 271 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: They just don't want it to become known publicly and 272 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: to this extent, so they're being a little bit quiet 273 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: publicly about it. But behind the scenes, from what we hear, 274 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: there are lots of phone calls going on into Washington saying, hey, 275 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: if we're sharing our intelligence with you bit through the 276 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: Five Eyes Intelligence Network or whatever, we kind of want 277 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: that information to stay safe. And it's clearly concerning that 278 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be safe if it's shared with 279 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: the US, and that's kind of the concerns that are 280 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: being aired, and they don't want their own dirty linen 281 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: to become public. They don't want the extent of their 282 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: own actions to become public, and certainly they don't want 283 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: anything that might benefit Russia, as you say, and its 284 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine. So certainly behind the scenes, those conversations 285 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: are going on and possibly sort of forcing yet another 286 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: reassessment in the US of how classified information is handled. 287 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: Are these conversations making for further difficulties for President Biden 288 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: as he's trying to tap into his heritage and have 289 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: sort of a celebratory mood as he continues to make 290 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: his way through Ireland. Well, it's interesting because, of course 291 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: he met with the UK Prime Minister Rishisunak, who know 292 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: the UK is part of that five Eyes intelligence sharing network. Publicly, 293 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: again it was all warmth and smiles and saying they 294 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: didn't really discuss it that much in private either. But 295 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: we do know from our own sources as we reported 296 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: that there have been conversations that have gone on. But 297 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: obviously for the US President, he wants this trip to 298 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: go well. He wants to tout his Irish streets. He also, 299 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: by the way, has some English roots also, but he 300 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: wants to sort of show that kind of stoic, determined 301 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Irish heritage as he gives up for a re election 302 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: bit expected for next year, and obviously to say that 303 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: he's got the fight of the Irish in him, you know, 304 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: given his age, give given everything else, and his sort 305 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: of like tendency towards gaffs and other things, to show 306 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: that he's really capable and ready to step it up 307 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: for the campaign. 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