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Speaker 1: Susan is out of town for two days, and the

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Speaker 3: Oh man, dude, I had Burger.

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Speaker 5: No burger King for dinner last night. I was watching

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Speaker 1: And what did Steve want?

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Speaker 5: But does anybody else have this? Your spouse leaves and

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Speaker 3: There's a sandwich place that Jensen really likes that I

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Speaker 3: It's great. Second up, we finally have the Shan shirt

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Speaker 3: And Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm

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Speaker 6: Great and the conversations that you are having are things

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Speaker 1: We kind of like it. We're nervous before because we're like,

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Speaker 1: maybe we.

444
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Speaker 5: Haven't figured out exactly what we're doing, but then we

445
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 5: get out there and the energy takes over and we

446
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 5: start talking and then it's we're good.

447
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Speaker 7: The thing is, the audiences have been so great that

448
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 7: we feel and so it's really like, yeah, I was nervous,

449
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 7: and when wed our show in San Diego, I was just like,

450
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Speaker 7: what is this going to be?

451
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Speaker 4: And then we walked out there and it was like.

452
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Speaker 9: Oh, these are our people, Like everything we say, like

453
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 9: they know it's like all of our you know, this

454
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Speaker 9: private what feels like a very private conversation we've been

455
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 9: having suddenly feels very public in a wonderful, like warming way.

456
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Speaker 5: They started yelling stuff out and we're like having conversations

457
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Speaker 5: with them like.

458
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Speaker 1: No, no, it's the side yard, it's the back You're like, well,

459
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Speaker 1: I mean it was yeah, it was amazing. It was amazing. Yeah,

460
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Speaker 1: it was great.

461
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Speaker 2: You really created like a second community also for like

462
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: the SOLT it's like all the in jokes of the

463
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: pod itself. You're right, like so many people are like

464
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: team Sideyard, Team Backyard. Like it's it's fantastic to watch,

465
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: and when you attend these shows you can feel that

466
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: sense of community again. It's like one big family reunion

467
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: that we're all invited to be a part of.

468
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Speaker 5: It was so amazing seeing you're at the live show

469
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 5: right right where you said, and you guys lailed and

470
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Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, they go, oh it's.

471
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Speaker 6: I literally stopped myself so many times. You guys were

472
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 6: like who was that person from that?

473
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Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, you will have

474
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Speaker 2: our own moment to talk with them. You let other

475
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Speaker 2: people participate.

476
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Speaker 3: That is so cute.

477
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Speaker 6: I was just gonna say to kind of segue. You know.

478
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Speaker 6: When Dede was on the show, she discussed how kind

479
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Speaker 6: of like difficult it was to watch, you know, Danielle

480
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 6: writer struggle with bring out towards the end of the show.

481
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Speaker 6: Now you guys are going on tour, you host multiple podcasts,

482
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Speaker 6: Danielle has like a thousand businesses. Will's constantly doing voiceover.

483
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: Like, how do you guys, yeah, writers.

484
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Speaker 6: Teaching, How do you guys manage your busy schedules now

485
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 6: prevent yourself from burnout? How do you keep your mental

486
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 6: health in place when there's so much going on?

487
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Speaker 1: That's a good question, and for me, it's an exercise

488
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: and a giant calendar. Yeah, oh yeah, that's my answer. Yeah.

489
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Speaker 7: I actually feel better being busy, Like I feel like

490
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 7: I'm much healthier when I'm busy, because you know, so

491
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 7: much of my life is writing and that's like self

492
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 7: discipline and forcing myself. So I actually find I get

493
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 7: more done the busier I am. So having the podcast

494
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 7: on our plate has been great, Like I'm like, no,

495
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 7: it was, you know, especially like twenty twenty pandemic not

496
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 7: working and having free time and putting the pressure on

497
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 7: myself to write constantly. That was harder on my mental

498
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Speaker 7: health and being busy.

499
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Speaker 4: So I like being busy.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

501
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

502
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Speaker 3: I think one of the things I'm the most proud

503
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 3: of is that I really do consider myself to be

504
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: a person who learns from my mistakes. And I learned

505
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: from the mistake of taking Boy Meets World. For granted,

506
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: I learned from that mistake, especially through talking it out

507
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: on the podcast, that like this time when I get

508
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: to these like all of the things that I'm doing now, directing,

509
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: having the hair care company, uh, doing this podcast, going

510
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 3: on the road with the guys, doing the live shows,

511
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: being a wife and a mother to two kids. These

512
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: are things I dreamt of. I literally dreamed of these

513
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: things and wanted them so badly, and I have them

514
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: all and I am succeeding at them. And if I

515
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: were to feel like, oh, I'm just so exhausted, I'm

516
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: just so burnt out, I'm just well blah, I'd be

517
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: doing the exact same thing I did when I was

518
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: on Boy Meets World. And I'm just not doing that.

519
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: I'm going, yeah, I'm busy, Yes I'm tired, but I

520
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 3: am also this is the life I dreamed of for myself.

521
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: It's everything I ever wanted. And it is also getting

522
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: easy you like, writer said, I am happier when I'm busier. Also,

523
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: as my kids get older, they are getting easier. It's

524
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: not so it's not quite as demanding, and so I'm

525
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: just I'm enjoying it.

526
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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it.

527
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Speaker 3: But you know what I think, Writer, I think one

528
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: of the things that is will be a benefit. And

529
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: you're the one who told me this. One of the

530
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Speaker 3: benefits of having two is that they really do play together,

531
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Speaker 3: and they're starting to do it already. And so even

532
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: though they're still very much like if they have their choice,

533
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: the person they want to be with is mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, mommy.

534
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: The person they want to do everything is mommy. But

535
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: every now and then the two of them are off

536
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: and it's quiet, and I'll think it's quiet, something's going on,

537
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: and I'll turn the corner and they are just playing

538
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: with each other.

539
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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

540
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Speaker 6: The creepiest thing is them playing quietly.

541
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Speaker 7: Exactly of course, exactly to your point, Danielle. You know,

542
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Speaker 7: it was so amazing to hear those interviews with us

543
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 7: when we were kids, and to hear that I.

544
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Speaker 4: Wanted to be a screenwriters a filmmaker.

545
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Speaker 7: It was like such a reality check of like, oh, right,

546
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 7: I am achieved exactly exactly And I didn't even realize

547
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 7: that I was vocalizing that the first season of Boy Me,

548
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 7: but clearly I was. And so yes, I have to

549
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 7: remind myself like I've already I've done it like I did,

550
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 7: you know, like and exactly the same way.

551
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: I have to be happy and be like, oh, the

552
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: struggle is that my script is taking a long time

553
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 4: to write. I'm writing a screenplay.

554
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Speaker 1: That's my job when.

555
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: I make a living doing it.

556
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 7: Doing it like you know, well not right now, I'm

557
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 7: on strike. But am I writing anything right now?

558
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: Well that's so fantastic. Actually, as you said, learning that

559
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: your childhood dreams have have come true in that way,

560
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: I feel very similar, I think, and I feel very similar.

561
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: It's like, how are we doing this? We enjoyed so much?

562
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah.

563
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Speaker 6: It just seems like you guys have been able to,

564
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 6: you know, really establish gratitude in these years in your career.

565
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 6: You're able to kind of game perspective, you know, you

566
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 6: guys have kind of started the fraternity of child actors

567
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 6: who you guys have brought on to kind of talk

568
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 6: about their experiences. Some of them had easier times transitioning

569
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 6: than others. You know what, it's what has it been

570
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 6: like for you guys to kind of invite these larger

571
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 6: conversations about child actors and the circumstances that you guys

572
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 6: grew up And it almost feels like trauma bonding and

573
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 6: a lot of those yeah people, but you know, what's

574
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 6: it been like for you guys.

575
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 4: One of the things I love about that aspect of

576
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 4: this show is that.

577
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 7: Just like a lot of these people are people that

578
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 7: our audience knows, but they're not like hugely famous, you know,

579
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 7: they're not like household names, you know, or they're not

580
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 7: like all working as actors still like and I love that.

581
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 7: I love the diversity of like life paths that we've

582
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 7: been able to just investigate and get to hang out

583
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 7: with and like. And these are all people we like,

584
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 7: a lot of them we know and we like, or

585
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 7: we haven't talked to for twenty years or sometimes we're

586
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 7: still in touch with them, like Jody, I feel like

587
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 7: we've seen you know, every couple of years. So it's

588
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 7: like It just depends on the person. But I just

589
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 7: love that like for us, it kind of makes sense

590
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 7: that this group we all have the shared either tgif

591
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Speaker 7: for I don't know, it's just like there's one moment

592
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 7: in time where we were all in each other's lives,

593
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 7: and yet everybody's kind of doing their own thing now,

594
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 7: very different lifestyles.

595
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: It's fun.

596
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like anything else, there's good and there's bad.

597
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: It's just that normally the good is very similar to

598
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 5: the good of the other child actors experience, and the

599
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 5: bad is usually very similar to the other bad I

600
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 5: mean get you find stories that repeat themselves, where on

601
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 5: both the good side and the bad side, you find

602
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 5: the great feelings you would get when you would be

603
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 5: on set and being with your fellow cast members and

604
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: relationships that you made that helped to create who you

605
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: were and and helped you grow as a person. And

606
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 5: then you find stories about you know, we constantly hear

607
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: about the parents who weren't the best people on the set,

608
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: and parents take their money and a drug, you know,

609
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: a drug abuse. So there's a lot that bonds us

610
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: both in the good and the bad, and it's something

611
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 5: that there's a safety in getting back together and talking

612
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 5: about it, because, as Riders said, everybody gets to a

613
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: different place, but we can all look back now as

614
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 5: adults and kind of, you know, bond again over the

615
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: good and the bad.

616
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: So it's great having those conversations. I really do love

617
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: seeing all these people again.

618
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

619
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Speaker 3: I think whenever, like you two were talking about being neurodivergent,

620
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: and you know, when you meet another neurodivergent person and

621
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: instantly there's a sense of like, Okay, we have shared

622
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: experiences that if you are not neurodivergent you do not

623
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: understand them. You can empathize with me, but if unless

624
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: you've walked in my shoes, you do not understand what

625
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: it feels like. Being a child actor is very much

626
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 3: the same way if if you've never done it, you

627
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: can empathize, you can learn, but you can't ever really know.

628
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: And I think it can be that way if you

629
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: were also an incredible gymnast, like you would meet another

630
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: gymnast and you'd be like, Okay, we know, we know

631
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: the quote unquote the struggle and the highs and the lows,

632
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: and so I think what's been really great about it

633
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: is that we've been able to have all of these people,

634
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: like writer said, we all have shared experiences, we all

635
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: have shared you know, shared histories, and yet you can

636
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: still see how totally different our lives have turned out,

637
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: how different we are as people. You can you can

638
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: have a shared foundation and it doesn't make you the

639
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: same as anyone else. And so I think it's just

640
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: been nice to kind of peel the mystery back, like

641
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: peel the peel the curtain back, so you can you know,

642
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: it really isn't as mysterious as it as it seems.

643
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 7: So it's it's been really the only time we could

644
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 7: have done it, because can you imagine talking to these

645
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 7: people ten fifteen years ago, Like the conversation would be

646
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 7: so different, like it would It's like, so it's like

647
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 7: we had to reach middle age, right, we had to

648
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 7: get through like our thirties essentially to get to a

649
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 7: place where we can be like, all right, we're all

650
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 7: everybody's got pretty much who they're they're going to be

651
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 7: at this point, you know, and so now can we

652
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 7: reflect on this period of our life, like, yeah, I

653
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 7: couldn't have done it even five years ago, I don't think.

654
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, shared history is a very powerful thing, and it

655
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: can be to your detriment. I mean, there's there's times

656
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 5: where you think of people in your life that might

657
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: not be the most positive influences, but they're still there

658
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: because you grew up together or because you I mean loyalty.

659
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 5: You feel a sense of loyalty and you'll look at

660
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 5: some of these people and you might even say, wow,

661
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 5: if I met you today, I would see that you

662
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 5: were toxic right away, but hey, we were in fourth

663
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: grade together, so you're still in my life. So shared

664
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 5: history can be very powerful, and just sitting and talking

665
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: about it, you do, as Danielle and Ryder both said,

666
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 5: you do, can kind of peel away the positives from

667
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 5: the negatives and you take what you can from it.

668
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, it can be it can be a detriment

669
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: as well.

670
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: I want to say to that, like, part of what

671
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: makes your pods so important and so helpful is you

672
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: both all like all three of you are so authentic

673
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: and open and you like answer questions or ask each

674
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: other questions that I was like, there's no way they're

675
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: like be that and vulnerable, And as you said, I

676
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: think it's part of like having the maturity and kind

677
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: of like the distance and reflection. But to that note,

678
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: T and I had a lot of questions about, like

679
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: how being a child star affected you as adults, because

680
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: listening to this season, we've heard so many stories and

681
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: you guys even talked about like, for example, like this

682
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: second season is way more let's say touchy. There's a

683
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: lot more mature content happening in a way, And for that,

684
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: my question has always been, like what was it like

685
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: being an object of desire at such a young age?

686
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: Like I think Danielle at one point in time, Blake

687
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: was on and he said that like a grown man

688
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: was asking for your autograph, and he was like, I don't,

689
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to do that, and

690
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: like things like that. I'm like, how did that like

691
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: for each of you? You were each one like team

692
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: beat and you know we're again outjects of desire at

693
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: such a young age. How did that impact, like how

694
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: you feel about yourselves both physically or like how did

695
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: it even affect like your bating life sexuality?

696
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: M good question, great question.

697
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 1: Who's gonna start starting that one?

698
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I hated it.

699
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 7: I mean I think I've been pretty open about that,

700
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 7: Like you know, when when I felt reduced to a

701
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 7: sort of like you know, that teen idol thing. It

702
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 7: just made me so uncomfortable, and I don't know, I mean,

703
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 7: I think it my I've been a serial monogamist my

704
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 7: entire life, like I and I think that part of

705
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 7: that was in response to feeling overwhelmed by you know,

706
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 7: the sort of the exposure and the way that fame became,

707
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 7: you know that, like you know, the way the way

708
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 7: that basically the way that women approached me or treated

709
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 7: me or reacted to me, it made me go inward,

710
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 7: like it made me shyer than I probably would have been,

711
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 7: because I don't think I was ever really a shy person.

712
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 7: But when I found myself in context where girls were

713
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 7: screaming or there was that that certain like American tradition

714
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 7: of like fandom of like you know, passing out on

715
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 7: the Beatles or whatever like that like specific teen idle

716
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 7: thing that I found myself in was very overwhelming, and

717
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 7: I just sort of ran away from it as much

718
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 7: as possible. And part of part of that, yeah, I've

719
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 7: ended up being very much a serial monogamist in my life.

720
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 7: Like I find somebody and I'm with them and I commit.

721
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 4: So that's I think that's probably partly.

722
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: In response they get white Roses.

723
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 6: Story.

724
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a very interesting relationship with it because

725
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 5: I came from my town where I was not popular.

726
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 5: I could not get a date. Girls did not like me.

727
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 5: To being on a show where stars wanted to date me,

728
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: it was really weird. When I finished the first season

729
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 5: of The Boy Mets World, I went home and couldn't

730
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 5: get a date from my prom. So I was in

731
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 5: the parking lot with a bunch of hippie kids to

732
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 5: go bowling who were younger than me because they weren't

733
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: didn't have to go to prom. They were like sophomores,

734
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 5: and we couldn't go bowling because they were wearing tevas

735
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 5: without socks, so they wouldn't rent us the shoes, so

736
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 5: they smoked you know, smoke.

737
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: Pot in the parking lot that night. That's how I

738
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: spent my senior prom because I couldn't get a date.

739
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 5: I was on Boy Meet's World and I couldn't get

740
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 5: a date, So it was really weird. And like Wrider,

741
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: I would always cover the bizarreness of it all by

742
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 5: being as big as I could and being the center

743
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 5: of attention. When then I'd just go home and kind

744
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: of be by myself. So it wasn't until I met

745
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 5: my wife that I was more comfortable being with somebody

746
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 5: than I was being alone. I was just always more

747
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: comfortable being alone, and I would go years, I mean

748
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 5: seven eight years with just by myself.

749
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was. It was a weird juxtaposition to

750
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: me of wait a second, why, because it put me

751
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: on guard. It's like, why, all of a sudden, now

752
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: are these beautiful women paying attention to me and they

753
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: want to date me? Where the girls I grew up

754
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: with don't want to have anything to do with me.

755
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: So it must be just because I'm on TV.

756
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: Right, which can't which then felt Yeah, it felt fake,

757
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: and it was, and it probably wasn't that it was

758
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 5: probably that I was just it was, you know, a

759
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 5: very small version of PTSD from my height from middle

760
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: school and high school to then. You know, I was

761
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 5: able to be more myself when I lived by myself

762
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: and and was in Los Angeles and doing what I love.

763
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 5: So I was probably more open to the idea and

764
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 5: and and more comfortable in myself and more confident, and

765
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 5: so that showed.

766
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: When it came when when I would be around young women.

767
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: But it it was so.

768
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: Weird to me to go from just not having a

769
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: date to then like, wait, why is Nikki Cox even

770
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: talking to me? It was really bizarre, and it happened

771
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: in like a day.

772
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I love you.

773
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, And so it was very, very strange.

774
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: By the time I was dating Love, I was far

775
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 5: more comfortable in myself and she and I had a

776
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 5: wonderful relationship, so that was nice, and that was kind

777
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 5: of I always considered love the relationship that most people

778
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 5: have when they're like fourteen. Does that make sense where

779
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: it's like that first pure we couldn't stand to be

780
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: more than six inches away from each other.

781
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: It's like the normal high school relationship you have.

782
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 5: I just happened to have it when I was nineteen

783
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 5: or twenty, but that was normal for me. I did

784
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: some things in my life very very early, you know,

785
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: lighting up a cigarette at ten years old, and some

786
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 5: things in my life I found very very late.

787
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how it affected me. But Danielle

788
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: as a girl and then a woman, that must be

789
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: a totally different thing.

790
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so excited to hear this.

791
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it definitely. It definitely took a

792
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: lot of I didn't really process how it affected me

793
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: as a teenager, or how it affected me in my

794
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: twenties or even in my thirties, up until the last

795
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: few years, and then I was really able to look

796
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: back on it and connect the dots. I, as we've

797
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: talked about, as a kid, I always wanted to be older.

798
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be an adult. I wanted to

799
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: be seen as an adult, and so getting adult male

800
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: attention as a teenage girl felt like. I didn't think

801
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: of it as being creepy or weird. I felt like

802
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: it was validation that I was mature and I was

803
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: an adult, and I was capable of and you know,

804
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: and that they were seeing me the way I was,

805
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: not for the number on a page. And in hindsight,

806
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: that is absolutely wrong, and well it's I'm.

807
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: Wrong in a key. You were very mature, and yes,

808
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: do you know what I like?

809
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 7: You were very advanced in those areas, specifically like you

810
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 7: came across.

811
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: I've always been able to hold a conversation with an adult.

812
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: I've always been I could look you in the eye.

813
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 3: I've always been those things. But in a romantic male

814
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: gaze sense, I should not have been outwardly talked about

815
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: at fourteen fifteen, sixteen years old now, and I was

816
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: even directly to me, I had, you know, I had

817
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: people tell me they had my eighteenth birthday on their calendar.

818
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: I had. I had a male executive when I did

819
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: a calendar at sixteen, and he specifically told me he

820
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: had a certain calendar month in his bedroom. And I

821
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: at the time, although the first thought when when I

822
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: heard like that, my first thought was a little like oh,

823
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: the immediate thought after that was yes, because I because

824
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: we are peers. Because we're peers, and this isn't acceptable.

825
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: This is how you relate, and this is how you

826
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: relate to peers. And so what it ended up doing

827
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 3: for me is that while I was on the show,

828
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: because the majority of people I spent my time around

829
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: were and I split my time between my regular high

830
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: school I had my regular high school boyfriends. Everybody heard

831
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: me tell the story about my high school boyfriends, but

832
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: they've also heard me talk about, you know, dating Jonathan

833
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: Taylor Thomas and then you know obviously Lance Bass, and

834
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: so I had a little bit of both. After Boy

835
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: Meets World ended, I was also I have been my

836
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: whole life mostly a serial monogamist. But what it really

837
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: did was it made me bad at boundaries. I was

838
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: so I was so focused on not wanting people to

839
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: think that I was that I thought I was too

840
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: good for them, that I had absolutely no expectations of

841
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: how you're supposed to talk to me, of how you're

842
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 3: supposed to treat me. I would stick it out for

843
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: the sake of sticking it out because I didn't want

844
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: anyone to think I thought I was better than them

845
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: or that they were not good enough for me. And

846
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: it wasn't until I was in my late thirties that

847
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: I went, Okay, I've had failed relationship after failed relationship,

848
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: and I could easily point the finger and be like, well,

849
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: that's because this guy was this, and that's because this

850
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: guy was this. But at the end of the day,

851
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm the one doing the selecting and I'm the one

852
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: picking these people, and what am I doing wrong? And

853
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: I really Then it was during Girl Meets World that

854
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: I took that time to say, you need to figure

855
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: this out because it's you, and it's during it was

856
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: during that time that I really realized how few boundaries

857
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: I had, and I started setting up boundaries and you know,

858
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: we've talked about it before. One of the biggest light

859
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: bulbs that went off for me is how much easier

860
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: it is to hold a boundary than it is to

861
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: knock them all down and then expect them to be

862
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: picked back up again once you cross boundary. Once you

863
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: let's use a totally hypothetical example. Once you are having

864
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: a conversation with a dear friend at work at the

865
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 3: water cooler, and then you start talking about your marriage

866
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: and maybe we have a problem in our marriage. And

867
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: then they say, oh, it's so bad, you know, it's stupid.

868
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: We should get dinner sometime. And then you go to dinner,

869
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: and then you talk about your problems in your marriage

870
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: with a friend over at dinner. And then next thing

871
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know how it happened, but suddenly

872
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm sleeping with this person and I don't know, I

873
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 3: didn't intend for it to happen. Well, it's like there

874
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: was a series of boundaries that were knocked down that

875
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: led to that point. It didn't happen overnight. And so

876
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 3: if you can say, Okay, before I enter this new

877
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: work relationship or friendship or whatever it's going to be,

878
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: I'm going to set clear boundaries for what is acceptable

879
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: and what's appropriate, and then I'm just not going to

880
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: knock them down. It's much easier to maintain those. So

881
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: that but that was you know, I thirty seven years

882
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: in the making.

883
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: That's so fantastic.

884
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 6: There's so much about what you guys have talked about

885
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 6: in terms of identity and sexuality, which I kind of

886
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 6: felt like was a through line not just for season

887
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 6: two of Boy Met World, but also season two of

888
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 6: your podcasts. Kind of understanding, you know, how sexuality was

889
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 6: thrown on you at a young age, but also trying

890
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 6: to reclaim your identity. And even the guests you've brought

891
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 6: on have kind of talked about, you know, you know,

892
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 6: wanting to be seen for more than the characters they

893
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 6: were portrayed, or wanting to be seen for more than

894
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 6: just you know, these ideas that were thrown at them

895
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 6: at a young age. You know, working as child actors,

896
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 6: it seems as though it's been it was it was

897
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 6: difficult to navigate child in adult relationships when you're working

898
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 6: with adults as your peers. I guess I'm trying to

899
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 6: figure out, how have you what lessons did you guys

900
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 6: learn getting out of that and how have you been

901
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 6: able to kind of educate the next generation on how

902
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 6: to navigate those waters easier. I mean, you're working on

903
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 6: Girl Meets World. You know, what advice would you give

904
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 6: Sabrina Carpenter for how to you know, balance those relationships.

905
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: That's a very great question.

906
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: Anybody want to jump in ahead, Danielle Okay.

907
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: I am. It's such a fine line to walk because

908
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: we've all talked about it, Writer, Will, myself, and how

909
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: sets operate in ways that most normal workplaces would never

910
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 3: There's a lot of actors in general are touchy feely.

911
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: There's a lot of you know, coming in for the

912
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: day and seeing each other and hugging immediately, and then

913
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: hugging again before you go to lunch, and hugging again

914
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: when the day is over, and then twelve hours later

915
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: you see each other and you hug again, and you

916
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: give each other piggyback rides to the set and and

917
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: there's just all.

918
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 4: In a family and how you're all a part of it.

919
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: And we are a family. And it's hard because I

920
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: do think of Writer and Will as my family. They

921
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: are family to me, for better or worse. I will

922
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: love them no matter what they are my family. But

923
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: I and Sets talk about it all the time. Oh,

924
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: we're building this family, We're building this family. No, you

925
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: are professionals at a workplace. And the truth is, when

926
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: this show is over within a couple of years, you're

927
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: probably not all going to be at each other's birthday

928
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: parties or at Easter or at Passover at each other's houses.

929
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: That's what family does. You see each other regularly, you

930
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: call for advice. After the show ends, these relationships will

931
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: probably start to fizzle because that's just naturally what happens

932
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: unless you form very deep bonds with people. And so

933
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: it is a very fine line to walk where you

934
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: don't want to seem like the person who's saying I'm

935
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 3: not your family, stay away from me and now I'm

936
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: cold and a witch or you know, being rude. But

937
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 3: I also do not want you to feel as though

938
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: you have to treat me like the family member that

939
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: I truthfully am not. So that is it is a

940
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: fine line to walk, and I think as adults, it

941
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: is your responsibility to not cross those boundaries. It is

942
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: your responsibility to set the walls of yes, I am

943
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: here for you and want you to feel comfortable coming

944
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: to me. And you should trust me because I am

945
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: a trustworthy person. So I'm going to prove that to you.

946
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: But I also I also need to maintain you know,

947
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: I don't know the appropriate boundary that a twenty seven

948
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: year old or a thirty something year old woman should

949
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 3: have with a fifteen year old girl or boy.

950
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 5: So it's perfect, It's so it was so obvious on

951
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 5: our set, how generational it was too, because the person

952
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 5: who set the best boundary was Bill. Bill would come in,

953
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 5: he would be there on time, he'd know all of

954
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 5: his lines, he'd spend the vast majority of time in

955
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: his dressing room. He would come out for rehearsal. He

956
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 5: would be very kind when we were there for the

957
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: most part. I mean, he could be a little bit

958
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: of a curmudgeon. We all know Bill is Bill Grumpy,

959
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: a little grumpy occasionally, but we loved him more for it.

960
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: But you so, the lines, as Daniel was saying, they're

961
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: not just blurred.

962
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 5: Sometimes they're obliterated in really, really horrible ways. I mean,

963
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 5: when you're sitting there on a set and a forty

964
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 5: five or fifty year old man comes up and elbows

965
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 5: you in the ribs and then gives one of these

966
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 5: to Danielle, like, hey, are you looking at this?

967
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: And she's fourteen?

968
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 5: That's common all the time, and you'd see the not

969
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: the guest stars are Oh the.

970
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 7: Skirts aren't going to be like in my mind, yeah,

971
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 7: because they're my age, so right for me, there would

972
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 7: be like it's no conversation. But in retrospect, I'm like

973
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 7: that person was forty five having that conversation or thirty something.

974
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 5: That's why girl through me, Girl mey twirl through me

975
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 5: the most, because you saw, you know, I would get

976
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 5: there and again, I got to look at it from

977
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 5: a I was.

978
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: I was not the frog in the pot.

979
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 5: I got to come in and occasionally kind of look

980
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 5: at the entire thing that was happening, and you saw

981
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 5: a lot of those traits where it was you'd walk

982
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 5: in and you know, somebody thirteen fourteen would be sitting

983
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 5: on somebody's lap who's thirty five, and it's and again

984
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 5: there's nothing overtly sexual about it, but it's still just inappropriate.

985
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: As Danielle said, if you walked.

986
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 5: Into a bank and two people there, there's a thirty

987
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 5: five year old man holding a thirteen year old girl

988
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 5: and they both were I mean it's like somebody would

989
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: go that unless they're related, that's not right. But because

990
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 5: you're on a set, you know it's all totally normal

991
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 5: and that's the way it's gonna be. And you hear

992
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 5: adults talking about their sex, lives and kids, and it's

993
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 5: just it's really weird. I hope that's getting better. I

994
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: don't know if it is. I think it is, because

995
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 5: you know, you have intimacy coaches and you have a

996
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 5: lot of different things that we didn't have at the time,

997
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 5: So you hope there's a progression to what's happening. But

998
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 5: there are some very and as an adult, and Daniel's

999
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 5: one hundred percent right.

1000
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: It is. It's completely on the adults.

1001
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 5: It's not for the thirteen year old girl to say, wow,

1002
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 5: I shouldn't run up and jump on somebody's lap because

1003
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 5: that's inappropriate. It's for the man to go, no, no, no, hey,

1004
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 5: I like you a lot, but why don't you sit

1005
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 5: over there and we'll have a conversation.

1006
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: It's just not appropriate. And you don't see that nearly

1007
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: as much as you should. So it was it was

1008
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: very strange.

1009
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 7: One of the things I've been thinking about based on

1010
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 7: all of you know, the interviews and the conversations we've

1011
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 7: been having in particularly with season two and where we're

1012
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 7: making out all the time and stuff, is that there

1013
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 7: is something intrinsically exploitative about child acting, just intrinsic to

1014
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 7: the you know, you're you're taking somebody whose brain is

1015
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 7: not fully formed, whose identity is not fully formed, and

1016
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 7: you're putting them in a position to perform a role,

1017
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 7: to do something to you know, whether that's you know,

1018
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 7: some sort of song and dance that they wouldn't do

1019
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 7: otherwise you're putting them into and so the you know,

1020
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 7: I think the goal should be to recognize that exploitative

1021
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 7: nature and to counterbalance it as much as possible, right Like,

1022
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 7: create a safer space for as possible for these kids,

1023
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 7: Provide as much security, provide as much guidance when it

1024
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 7: comes to studio teachers or producers or whatever, directors, and

1025
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 7: try and make that as good of an affirming an experience.

1026
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: As possible, because reality is, you.

1027
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 7: Wouldn't be making out with this person, but you're going

1028
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 7: to because it's your job. And you know that's at thirteen,

1029
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 7: your job is kissing another third.

1030
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 4: Like that's a weird thing.

1031
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 7: That is something there's something somewhat exploitive about that, like

1032
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 7: no matter what, and that doesn't mean it's bad. It's

1033
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 7: just I've been recognizing that through this process, like, oh,

1034
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 7: like we didn't think it was bad, and I don't

1035
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 7: think it really was that awful for most of us

1036
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 7: during at the time.

1037
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 4: In retrospect, it is a little weird. Yeah, it's a

1038
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: little different.

1039
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 7: It's not your typical high school experience, and so we

1040
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 7: have to take that into account and like recognize that

1041
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 7: as part of our journey.

1042
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: It's also like, I think what's so great is that

1043
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 2: both in the pod, you guys, of course you're handling

1044
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: these really heavy topics, and in the show you were

1045
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: always handling really heavy topics in a way that felt relatable.

1046
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: Like I know, you guys just got off the last

1047
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: episodes of season two and to me, like I've talked

1048
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: about like that episode where Chet comes end and Chet

1049
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: is so charming and he's so like lovable, but there's

1050
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: all of like this really toxic parentage that goes along

1051
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: with Chet. I think that it's such a That's what

1052
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: you were asking, like what made ourselves different? I was like,

1053
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: I think the ability to kind of bring these kind

1054
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: of imperfect characters and the duality of something like a

1055
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: child star is a great opportunity, but it also exposes

1056
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 2: you to a lot or again, you can have someone

1057
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: as charming, an adult as charming as Chet be something

1058
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: that everyone's drawn to, but at the exact same time

1059
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: he's doing awful things.

1060
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: Talked about it. We just we just covered that episode.

1061
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 7: You know, Are those those two episodes really the end

1062
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 7: of the season, And yeah, we had that exact point,

1063
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 7: which is the Chet is so and that's what's so

1064
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 7: great about the writing and the performance is that he's

1065
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 7: so likable. Well he's just bailing on his kids in

1066
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 7: the worst possible way.

1067
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 4: I want to hear. I want to talk season two,

1068
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: like I think we need to. Yeah, yeah, because I'm

1069
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: so curious, like.

1070
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 7: You know, having been through we haven't we haven't quite

1071
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 7: had the conversation of like a macro.

1072
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 4: View of season two.

1073
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 7: Do you guys have like a shorthand or like a

1074
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 7: way that you think of season two?

1075
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 4: Do you have a feeling?

1076
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, I mean I definitely feel that season two

1077
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 6: is an exploration of identity, not just as you know,

1078
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 6: Sean and Corey try to navigate through who they are

1079
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 6: in high school and trying to find you know, you know,

1080
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 6: am I cool? Am I?

1081
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: This?

1082
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 6: Tim right that? But also the show in general is

1083
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 6: like who are we? You know, what's our identity? As

1084
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 6: Boy Meets World, you know, we're doing this massive change

1085
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 6: from season one, and it just feels like that there's

1086
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 6: similarities happening on screen and off screen in terms of

1087
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 6: searching for your voice and identity, your.

1088
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: Half fifth, your half happy days and half like the

1089
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: old seasonal Boy meets Protea where you had like Harley

1090
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: somehow in the fifties, but like all of these modern,

1091
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: modern clothes and modern problems. It was a really fun

1092
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 2: exploration season two to just kind of see the world

1093
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: expand you know, like if we're talking about Boy Meets World,

1094
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: season two is really where his world starts to expand

1095
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: we get a little less of the family, which is

1096
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: really sad, but it absolutely brings in so many different

1097
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: characters and different Like the guest stars that you guys

1098
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: brought on were just because you had so many storylines

1099
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: that had really good relations for Corey to interact with.

1100
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we at the beginning of season two, we felt

1101
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: what we called drop shock. I think Will's the one

1102
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 3: who came up with drop shock. Did you guys also

1103
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: experience dropshock coming into season two? And if so, when

1104
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: did that wear off for you?

1105
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 6: Okay, So, speaking as a lifelong fan of the show, no,

1106
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 6: not at all, because the transition, Like I know that

1107
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 6: it was shocking for you guys maybe a back are

1108
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 6: especially watching it now, But being that demographic, I was like, yeah,

1109
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 6: go to school, like make this relatable to me. Talk

1110
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 6: about the teachers, talk about the faculty, like those were

1111
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 6: all like, you know, you guys were kind of mentioning

1112
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 6: how the sex stuff was, you know, awkward, but there's

1113
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 6: also some truth to the fact that these are the

1114
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 6: conversations that kids are having at this age. Yea, and

1115
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 6: for to be a kid at that age, I was like, yeah,

1116
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 6: like how do I say hi to a girl?

1117
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 7: Right?

1118
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: Right?

1119
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 6: Like all of these things so you guys are you

1120
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 6: guys matured a lot in the season, but it reflected

1121
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 6: the you know, what your audience was maturing into as well.

1122
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 6: I think.

1123
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: Okay, good. Also, I do think even if you weren't

1124
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 3: having those conversations, you were curious about those conversations. You

1125
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: wanted to watch other kids talk about them, because that's

1126
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: how you learn.

1127
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: You like to think as you get older that you're

1128
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: basically every thought wasn't consumed by sex when you were thirteen.

1129
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 3: Forteen, well, I forget, yeah, but it was.

1130
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: In some way or another.

1131
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 5: The conversation was about kissing or how far you went,

1132
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 5: what base you were on you heard. I mean, those

1133
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 5: are things you heard all the time, So that was

1134
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 5: I think we I'll speak just for myself. I think

1135
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 5: I came at season two a little more high and mighty,

1136
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 5: where it was like, that's not what kids talk about

1137
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: when it's like, that's.

1138
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 4: Exactly what kids about it, That's exactly what it is.

1139
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: And it took me some episodes to be like, no,

1140
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: this is actually what it's like. And it's I'm being

1141
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: a little self aggrandizing and a little you know, up

1142
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: on my own pedestal, like this.

1143
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 7: Is just caught up in the age of season one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1144
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 7: it wasn't as much of a reality. It was more

1145
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 7: like do you like a girl or maybe kiss a girl?

1146
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 7: Where it's like season two was like pairing off, you're

1147
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 7: making out, going on, yeah, which is true.

1148
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 5: Which I was talking to friends about that and they

1149
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 5: were reminding me of stuff where they're like, dude, don't

1150
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 5: you remember the parties we would have in seventh grade?

1151
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: I was like the ones I wasn't invited to it goes.

1152
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 5: But we would have them where you know, there it

1153
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 5: was like making out or learning different ways to kiss,

1154
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 5: or it was like, you know, so apparently this was

1155
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 5: all normal.

1156
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: I just blocked it out or wanted to think I'd

1157
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: outgrown it. But yeah, it's very strange.

1158
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: To Tea's point. Season two is also really heavily about

1159
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: how that age of like thirteen twelve thirteen, you're trying

1160
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 2: on different identities, like the idea that Corey is constantly

1161
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: being like am I cool enough to be here? Or

1162
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: what does it say about Sean that he was invited

1163
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: to this party and I'm not. Like there is so

1164
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: much of like even Ingrid coming in and being like, hey,

1165
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: this is who I was, but I want to be cool,

1166
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's again so relatable to what

1167
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: kids that age are going through, just like trying to

1168
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: find out who do I want to be? Like, even

1169
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: when they are interviews, there's like this innate understanding of

1170
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: like what you want, but like how do I express

1171
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 2: that authentically?

1172
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, the characters you know, seem to be seeking outside validation,

1173
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 6: which is something that's so typical of that age group too.

1174
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 6: You know, how do I find meaning and purpose? It's

1175
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 6: outside validation. So you see Corey being like, let's start

1176
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 6: a band, Let's do this, let's do that, let's try

1177
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 6: to win over, let's take over a radio show because people,

1178
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 6: you know, and it's all to kind of get the

1179
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 6: approval of those around him, which is.

1180
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: Trying to he's trying to be is yeah, yeah, interesting.

1181
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: Do you think there were any episodes we were too

1182
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: hard on or or an episode that we like particularly

1183
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: loved that you guys are like, that's not a great one.

1184
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: It's actually funny to me there are episodes where there

1185
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: are lots of moments where you're like, I like this one.

1186
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: I was like, we did not like that episode. It's

1187
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: funny to like see the difference because you also know

1188
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: like the behind the scenes. So I think like your

1189
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: experiences really shape, Like I can't remember, I'm gonna see

1190
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: if I can.

1191
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: I've got a recap of all the episodes if you

1192
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: want to, if you have anything.

1193
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: But there was one episode where writer was like, I

1194
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: don't know if I liked this episode and then you

1195
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: took a step back and you're like, oh, actually I

1196
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: did like the episode. I didn't like like what was

1197
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes at the time of the episode,

1198
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: and like that kind of like took over, and that

1199
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: really helped because I'm like, oh, boy, we are drastically

1200
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: different opinions on this storyline.

1201
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean to that point, there was episodes

1202
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 6: like The Beard, for example, where I was just like, oh,

1203
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 6: we had major problems with that episode, but you guys

1204
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 6: seem to have found things that you enjoyed about it,

1205
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 6: which also changed my perspective of it as well. So

1206
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 6: it's kind of nice to hear those different perspectives because

1207
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 6: I think, like I say, the Beard, just because that

1208
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 6: was the episode we rate at the lowest when we

1209
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 6: just it was just this idea of just like, don't

1210
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 6: watch this girl while I figure out if I like it.

1211
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 6: In fact, you know, we do kind of like a

1212
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 6: rating system for every season, and season two was like

1213
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 6: just beat by season.

1214
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: One for us because of how.

1215
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 6: Like the women were kind of treated throughout the show

1216
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 6: and things like that were kind of knocked it down.

1217
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 6: So it's it's it's trying to find, you know, the

1218
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 6: the highs and lows and appreciate things for what they were.

1219
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 7: Regardless of Honestly, I think we started pulling back our

1220
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 7: because when you realize like that that there are there

1221
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 7: are like so for me, I was looking at the

1222
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 7: listen that the my favorite episodes are all the ones

1223
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,959
Speaker 7: where there is a female that comes into Corey's life

1224
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 7: who is really dynamic and interesting, so that TK with

1225
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 7: her episode, the Wendy episode breaking up is really really

1226
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 7: hard to do and uh turnaround and each one of

1227
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 7: those are you know, sorry, Danielle, they're non to Panga

1228
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 7: Corey relationships. But what's great is that the storyline is

1229
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 7: driven by a character with a fully developed Where's the

1230
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 7: other episodes like the Beard or the band episode or

1231
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 7: uh even the President run like these, and then then

1232
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 7: the one we just talked about with Corey becomes a

1233
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 7: chalk the Thriller and Philip it's like girls are literally

1234
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 7: props for Corey and Seawan and they're.

1235
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: Just like, did we get the girl?

1236
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 4: Did you use this girl to do?

1237
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 7: And you know, and that you know, we just stopped

1238
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 7: talking about it because I feel like we didn't want

1239
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 7: to hit that too hard on our recaps, you know,

1240
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 7: like when you reach the beard, it's like, that's just

1241
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 7: the way this episode is going to go, Like it's

1242
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 7: not you.

1243
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 5: Know, Like I would also argue, though, writer that like

1244
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 5: Thriller and Fill is a perfect example. Other than our

1245
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 5: core cast, the guys were props too, So it's like,

1246
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 5: you know, all the wrestlers, they didn't have fleshed out backstories. Hey,

1247
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 5: big good looking wrestler guy he named Savy, you know.

1248
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's like we we focus on the

1249
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 5: fact that the women were kind of what you know,

1250
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 5: one dimensional, not even two dimensional. They were one dimensional,

1251
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 5: but a lot of the guys were too. They would

1252
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 5: guest stars that would come in and if you weren't

1253
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 5: a Griff or a Frankie, it was like, we don't

1254
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 5: care about your backstory. Say your lines, get us to

1255
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 5: the next point of the show and we'll go from there.

1256
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 3: So I think that was more.

1257
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 7: Perfect about them in terms of dating, Like, you know,

1258
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 7: the characters themselves were reducing women to like Candy, like literally, Candy,

1259
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 7: your name, Candy, I want you, and you come with

1260
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 7: the jacket and like that not one of the thing

1261
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 7: for the character to be reduced, which was true, but

1262
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 7: also for us as the main characters to consistently reducing

1263
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 7: women to sure, you know, get in them or not.

1264
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 4: It was pretty crappy.

1265
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm curious because you guys have had writers,

1266
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 6: producers you know, come on and you know they kind

1267
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 6: of get really matter of fact, Hey, there's only so

1268
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 6: many pages that we can feel like, you know, there's

1269
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 6: all of these circumstances that kind of shape the stories

1270
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 6: that we're being told. I'm curious, like, how has you know, uh,

1271
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 6: rewatching these episodes, having these conversations with the creators you know,

1272
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 6: shaped and you guys, you know, going through and doing

1273
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 6: your critique, how has this shaped your idea of story

1274
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 6: structure and how you you know, like writer, you you

1275
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 6: write screenplays like you are now analyzing you know, a

1276
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 6: television show almost like there's your part time job now,

1277
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 6: So like how is this like how is this you know,

1278
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 6: impacting the rest of your careers?

1279
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 7: Mostly I'm mostly very I'm impressed with our writers, like

1280
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 7: you know, and I'm impressed with how consistently well structured

1281
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 7: these stories are. Like no, I mean I think that

1282
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 7: what's what's both I think it's maybe a strength and

1283
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 7: a weakness of season two is how how uh multi personality.

1284
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, the tone is just all over

1285
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 4: the place.

1286
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 7: Like you have episodes that are such romps and farces

1287
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 7: where nothing is supposed to be taken seriously, and then

1288
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 7: you have like where the season lands with Sean and

1289
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 7: his dad and Turner like, which is taken so seriously.

1290
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 7: And I know that that's kind of the boy meets

1291
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 7: world thing, and and and so I don't know, like

1292
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 7: you know, from episode to episode it's it's it's a

1293
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 7: little like WHOA, which mode.

1294
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: Are we in?

1295
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 7: But within the episodes, they're very well structured for that mode,

1296
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 7: and they actually are pretty consistent within the individual episodes.

1297
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 7: So even when like I didn't love an episode because

1298
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 7: it's a little too farcical for me, I have to

1299
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 7: acknowledge that. And it delivers what it promptly, you know,

1300
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 7: the thriller and Phila is absurd and it gets and

1301
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 7: it delivers all the things that people want from an

1302
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 7: absurd ridicul you know, or like Danger Boy, which I

1303
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 7: thought was ended up being a great episode, you know,

1304
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 7: the fair or the roller coasters ridicular, but fine, like

1305
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 7: you know, you just you go with it.

1306
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know, man, I'm impressed with the show.

1307
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 7: I think the writing is pretty solid for the most part,

1308
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 7: besides the you know, some of the things we talked about,

1309
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 7: like with the female characters and whatnot. Like in general, like,

1310
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 7: our show is pretty pretty darn well written.

1311
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I think sometimes people have like I know,

1312
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 3: for example, by Hook or by Crook, where Eric has

1313
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: the tutor who gets you know, tries to get him

1314
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: to cheat, and it's the Ben Has Finals episode, And

1315
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 3: we talked about that and we were like, Wow, it's

1316
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 3: so surprising that when Ben was gone, they didn't lean

1317
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: into Eric as a comedy tool and that the episode

1318
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: actually took a serious turn. And I saw a lot

1319
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 3: of criticism online about a lot of comments on Instagram

1320
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: that were like, I can't believe they didn't like this episode.

1321
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: And the truth is, I don't think we felt like

1322
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: we didn't like the episode. It was an observation from

1323
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 3: us that it's it was just exactly what I said.

1324
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 3: Interesting that in my mind I would have thought without

1325
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: seeing any of the episodes it had I not seen them,

1326
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 3: I would have looked back and I would have thought, well,

1327
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: of course, and Ben's not going to be there. It's

1328
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: going to be an Eric goes crazy, we have some

1329
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 3: hysterical Eric comedy episode, and then it's the polar opposite

1330
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: of that, and it's beautiful. It was a great episode

1331
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 3: and Will did such an amazing job. And I said that,

1332
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 3: but it was funny because I walked away from reading

1333
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: some of the comments on Instagram going wait a minute,

1334
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 3: did we did we act as though we probably disliked

1335
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: the episode, because that wasn't I don't think of the

1336
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: way any of us felt. We were just more like,

1337
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: oh so interesting, what a choice, and it was.

1338
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 4: It was fine, and there were some awkward moments like

1339
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 4: you know, bend in bed with you.

1340
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: There was like first storyline was own again for sure,

1341
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: But as as a whole of the episode, we did

1342
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 3: we did definitely comment about how weird that was, but

1343
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: like the whole of the episode, it wasn't a bad episode,

1344
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 3: and we actually we actually really enjoyed it. But I

1345
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: did think that people I thought, oh wow, we really

1346
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: the fact that we even brought up that it was

1347
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 3: a different choice to not do a big farcical Eric

1348
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 3: episode made people think we were saying we disliked it.

1349
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: Which we didn't. Yeh no. And it's also we you know,

1350
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: we we don't.

1351
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 5: You know, we don't often compliment Michael Jacobs enough, I think,

1352
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 5: because you know, our writing staff was phenomenal, but it

1353
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 5: all started with Michael. And Michael knows family sitcom and

1354
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 5: it is very specific. It's not even just a niche

1355
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 5: on television, but it's a niche within sitcom to do

1356
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 5: a good family sitcom. And Michael knew the tone and

1357
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 5: really knew what to push and what not to push,

1358
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 5: and there's times you can tell he was finding it.

1359
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: I mean, season two, just like you were saying, is

1360
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 5: is a lot of it is trying to find the

1361
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 5: tone and find itself and find the show and find

1362
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 5: the characters. As we are all trying to do that,

1363
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 5: so are the writers and the producers. But Michael really

1364
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 5: really knows this genre and is very very good at it,

1365
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 5: and I think it started to really show in season two.

1366
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely it's free that you guys said that, because with

1367
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: season two there are lots of episodes I remember listening

1368
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: to you where you guys are like, oh, we found

1369
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: our rhythm. We like you know, like you guys kind

1370
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: of just felt like you mestered, you really understood what

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: kind of show you were making. And I feel like

1372
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: there are moments like, even as listeners, I am impressed

1373
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: that they were able to kind of take something like

1374
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: what is it, God, I'm blinking right now on Harley

1375
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: Harley's departure and then turn that around and give us

1376
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: Griff and give us a character that actually made sense

1377
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: for the space. And I'm totally on your team that TK.

1378
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: I want to see a world where TK is just

1379
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: takes that place. But they were able to kind of

1380
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: turn it around and make it make sense for the

1381
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: rest of the season.

1382
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they hired someone who wasn't forty five years old,

1383
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 6: so that helps you.

1384
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 5: That helpful and a god what I got a great

1385
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 5: character also, you know I just said Michael, and I

1386
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 5: mean that about Michael, but David Kendall was also there

1387
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 5: in season two, and David Kendall's another one who really

1388
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 5: after coming off with growing pains and everything else, with

1389
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 5: somebody else who really understood sitcom as well. So yeah,

1390
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 5: we had we had the right team together and it showed.

1391
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 5: I mean, it really did show.

1392
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: And I think that Harley Griff is a perfect example

1393
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: of that because it so easily could have just disappeared

1394
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: and we never saw it again. But all of a

1395
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: sudden incomes Adam Scott with this character that's phenomenal and

1396
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: so nuanced and so doing things like the massage table

1397
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: in the Phoenie's classroom, and it's just it was great

1398
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: to watch. So yeah, that was that was fun.

1399
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: You want to get into some superlative because I.

1400
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely I wanted to roll into that. Do you

1401
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 6: guys have favorite episodes? For a favorite episode of this season?

1402
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: M Well writer mentioned some of his, but do you

1403
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: want to do? You want to spell him out?

1404
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 6: Writer?

1405
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, just the I think the sister Teresa turn around

1406
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 7: and uh, the breaking up is really really hard to do.

1407
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 7: I think breaking up is really really hard to do.

1408
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 7: I mean it's it's such a good one, and I

1409
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 7: just yeah, you know, obviously the old man thing is

1410
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 7: just has such a place in my heart, Like I

1411
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 7: love that scene so much, but it seems like it

1412
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 7: has a similar place in everyone's part.

1413
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 4: So I feel like that speaks volumes for that episode.

1414
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 7: And and then I do I just loved I love

1415
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 7: the Wendy dynamic and the socks and Corey.

1416
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 4: It just worked. It was just to me, that was like,

1417
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 4: by far the best episode of the season.

1418
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I thought that was a great episode.

1419
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: I thought for me, Eric wise, I really liked Danger Boy.

1420
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: I liked the kind of working with Tony really for

1421
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: the first time. And I thought the seeing Corey and

1422
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: Feenie together and Corey the Corey breaking down and just

1423
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: starting to cry out of nowhere is arguably my favorite

1424
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: moment so far of the entire show. It was so

1425
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: great moment.

1426
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 5: Was it was so good and so and then for

1427
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 5: me just because it meant a lot to me and

1428
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed it, and it's one of those moments

1429
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 5: that I talked about, where where else do you get

1430
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 5: this experience having Nancy Kerrigan skating around you when you're

1431
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 5: on a frozen pond in Lake Placid is pretty wonderful.

1432
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: So those that would that, those would be my answers

1433
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: for season two.

1434
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the last two episodes of the season are arguably

1435
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 3: my two most favorite of the series so far. Career

1436
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: Day and Home are just I absolutely love them, but

1437
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 3: honorary mentions to some of my other favorite episodes. Wake

1438
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: Up Little Corey is something that I really remember, so

1439
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 3: for me, like as an actor and as the person

1440
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: doing it, I liked that episode. I like you doing

1441
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: that episode.

1442
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 6: We actually when we did our season two recap, that

1443
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 6: was the one that was the highest rate of for

1444
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 6: us as well, specifically because we really enjoyed how it was.

1445
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 6: You know, it was a conversation about consent, it was

1446
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 6: a conversation about you know, sexual accountability in ways that

1447
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 6: we just thought was a really ahead of its time.

1448
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked that episode. Sister Teresa breaking up

1449
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: is really really hard to do. And then, like I said,

1450
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 3: Career Day and Home. So I agree with Will and

1451
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 3: writer though Ben breaking down crying in that scene during

1452
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 3: Danger Boy is.

1453
01:09:59,080 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: I just.

1454
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 3: It's just so funny. Also, Cory falling out of the

1455
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 3: tree home.

1456
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, God, some.

1457
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 3: Of my some of the biggest laughs for me are

1458
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 3: those two moments. So yeah, I you know.

1459
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: It really leads to my next question. And I want

1460
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: to see your answers because I have like a very

1461
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: strong answer, but I don't want to see if you

1462
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: have to say, who is your favorite new character this season?

1463
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: Because you got again lots of guest stars. Who do

1464
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: you think it's like your favorite new character that was

1465
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 2: added to the story.

1466
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: So many personal lives, like is that supposed to go

1467
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: in as well?

1468
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 4: Are we just trecking character.

1469
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 7: For the so many new characters, because I was gonna

1470
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 7: say Griff, but in reality, mister.

1471
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 4: Turner was introduced to me. Now, mister Turner was clearly

1472
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 4: my favorite.

1473
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 3: Me too, I have to agree. I have to agree,

1474
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 3: mister Turner is what an addition, and and talk about

1475
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 3: world expansion, just that one character alone expands so many

1476
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 3: different things. It expands the school, and it expands home

1477
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 3: life for both Corey and especially then Seawan. So world expansion,

1478
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 3: mister Turner. But then laughs wise, I know what you're

1479
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 3: gonna say, Joey the rat.

1480
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 4: Is so good.

1481
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 3: He's my gosh, no one has made me laugh more

1482
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: on the show than Blake Senate.

1483
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 8: I guess that's got The whole thing is I.

1484
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: Just love a miracle. It's amazing.

1485
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1486
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 6: When we talked to you guys last when we talked

1487
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 6: to you guys last year, you were really disappointed about

1488
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 6: Minka sleaving. I'm curious, how do you feel like he

1489
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 6: would have done in this in this new environment, Like

1490
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,959
Speaker 6: if he had stuck around for season.

1491
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 4: Two, I think he would have done amazing. He was

1492
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 4: so good.

1493
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 7: It would have just gotten bigger and better and more

1494
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 7: integrated and more nuanced and like, so basically he would

1495
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 7: have been able to take all the Alvin parts, right,

1496
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 7: So that's like three or four episodes where he would

1497
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 7: have had major roles just as being the nerd character.

1498
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 4: But then also just clearly the way.

1499
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 7: Lee attacked acting and and good scenes, they would have

1500
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 7: given him so much to do and he would have

1501
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 7: just chewed the scenery and had so much fun and

1502
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 7: would and.

1503
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 5: With the bullies is just the visual alone is worth

1504
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 5: it is worth a laugh that last thirty seconds.

1505
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: So I mean I would love to have seen that. Yeah,

1506
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: he would have been great.

1507
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 3: Who is your y'all's favorite character in season two?

1508
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: Uh so, mister Turner, we have, like we talked about,

1509
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: we have a whole segment called turned On by Turner,

1510
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: Like I have like the scene of him in like

1511
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: the A shirt, yes, and I'm like like we can't deny,

1512
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: like like.

1513
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 4: He just got beautiful man.

1514
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 7: Still and those those tight pants.

1515
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 6: You guys know this thing like the ties. The entire

1516
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 6: season scenes would be like look at the cup, the

1517
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 6: cup the booty jeans though, but.

1518
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: In terms of laughs, I just like I have such

1519
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: a place in my heart for Chet, Like I feel

1520
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: like she comes in and just he's so impactful and

1521
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is one of those new characters where

1522
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm so glad they kept it around because

1523
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: he changes the trajectory of the show but does so

1524
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: in such a way that like I've talked to this

1525
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: about Tea all the time. I know a chet and

1526
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: I just like, you know that character so well, You're like, oh,

1527
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: completely charming. People will totally buy into you. No one

1528
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 2: really believes what you're selling, but I don't care. And

1529
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: that's so dangerous but also so so real, and that's

1530
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: why it's one of my favorites.

1531
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 6: And he, like, like Blake, he brings that to life,

1532
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 6: Like his performance is what makes that work because of

1533
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 6: talk about it like the whole idea of a lovable

1534
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 6: deadbeat dad, Like I can't think of another show that

1535
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 6: successfully pulls that off. And because of his heart and

1536
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 6: his performance that he brings to it. He doesn't play

1537
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 6: it as a dead bea dad. He plays it, you know,

1538
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 6: sincere and with love, and it's just it's yeah, it's

1539
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 6: his performance is the thing that really just makes it

1540
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 6: stand out.

1541
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one of your funniest guests that you had on.

1542
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 6: This, Like.

1543
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I barely heard what you guys just said

1544
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 5: because all that's going through my head.

1545
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 3: Is turned down. But turner.

1546
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 6: That song.

1547
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be saying the booty jeans, jeans, cut the

1548
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 8: booty jeans.

1549
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 6: Oh my.

1550
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: Well, do you guys have any final thoughts on season two?

1551
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: For us?

1552
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 6: Final thoughts on season two of your podcast, I just

1553
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 6: have to say love everything you guys have done, not

1554
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 6: only just bringing in the guests and the cast and

1555
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 6: the crew, but also you guys brought on the therapist.

1556
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 6: You guys are you guys got interviewed by your past selves.

1557
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 6: It's just been the coolest season and the entire team

1558
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 6: is doing such a great job because every time I'm

1559
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 6: just like, oh, like, yeah, that's what I want and

1560
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 6: I didn't know I wanted it, you guys do it again,

1561
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 6: and so it just keeps on happening where you guys

1562
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 6: as fans are serving us in ways that I didn't

1563
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 6: think we're possible. So I'm loving what you guys are

1564
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 6: doing with season two.

1565
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1566
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 6: When you guys go to season three, we would love

1567
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 6: if you guys could get Eli on. We would love

1568
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 6: if you guys s.

1569
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 4: Please like anything is in season three issues yea three.

1570
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 6: Absolutely three fifteen Heart is a lonely hunter.

1571
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm really excited, like if you again, we don't know

1572
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: if you can. But Wesley Jonathan is one of the

1573
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: very few guests of Colors that you have, and in

1574
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: season three he's there, so I don't know what he's doing,

1575
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: but like we're really like fools.

1576
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 3: Episode great, okay, love that we will do that. And

1577
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 3: so I asked if you had any final thoughts on

1578
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 3: season two? Do you have any final questions for us

1579
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 3: before we.

1580
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 6: Have one last question? It's just something that I was

1581
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 6: curious about. You guys talked about just like the dynamics

1582
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 6: of working with adults on set, how you know, uh,

1583
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 6: how much of a struggle of this is some kind

1584
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 6: sometimes to find those boundaries, especially when you're you're you're young.

1585
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,839
Speaker 6: Mark Bluffman was on and he kind of mentioned how

1586
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 6: he had challenges with creative freedom, specifically working with Michael

1587
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 6: and last season, David told the story about like a

1588
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 6: base a kid who loves baseball who got the love

1589
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 6: beat out of him because the coaches were too hard.

1590
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,839
Speaker 6: And I guess I'm wondering, like, did you guys feel

1591
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 6: a similar thing as child actors. Uh, this kind of

1592
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 6: pressure to you know, get the approval, that pressure of

1593
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 6: feeling like your creativity was kind of dictated by one voice,

1594
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 6: Like as as.

1595
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: A child, what was that like for you?

1596
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 6: And how have you been able to kind of find

1597
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 6: a balance as you've.

1598
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: Grown cloud.

1599
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 4: Both, Thank you much.

1600
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 7: I feel like I've been pretty open about this. I mean, yeah,

1601
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 7: this has been something that I definitely have struggled with.

1602
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,799
Speaker 7: And I feel like if I had come to acting

1603
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 7: as an adult, I would I would probably still be

1604
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 7: acting to this day and really enjoying it. But because

1605
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 7: I came into it the way I did and had

1606
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 7: the success I did, and within the specific context of

1607
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 7: our show, yeah I came. I came away with a

1608
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 7: very I think, a not great approach to acting that

1609
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 7: you know, I have to take responsibility for. And it

1610
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 7: wasn't until I really was older and like came to

1611
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 7: understand what it is, what it means to be an

1612
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 7: actor in a real sense, and then decided they didn't

1613
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 7: want to do it anymore.

1614
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 4: So there you go.

1615
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, I I definitely wish I could

1616
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 7: go back and tell younger writer that he was doing

1617
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 7: some things really right and to believe in himself and

1618
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 7: to not to not become insecure about acting.

1619
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 4: I wish that hadn't happened.

1620
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 7: I wish, you know, I'd been encouraged to keep going

1621
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 7: and to push myself in other ways, which I did not.

1622
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. For me, I feel like I started,

1623
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to be an actor without having

1624
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 3: any idea what that meant. I knew nothing about acting.

1625
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 3: I knew nothing about the craft. I also taking responsibility

1626
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 3: for the fact that I, although I was taking some

1627
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 3: acting classes later in life, like in later and by

1628
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: later in life, I mean, you know, at fifteen and sixteen, yeah,

1629
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 3: later in life, I mean like in the in later

1630
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 3: in the show of Boy Meets World. I definitely did

1631
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: start taking some acting classes, but I also was working

1632
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: doing you know, Boy Meets World full time. And then

1633
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 3: when summer rolled around, I wanted to go to school

1634
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: and I wanted to go on a family vacation. I

1635
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 3: wasn't a relentless pursuer of an acting career. I didn't

1636
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 3: want to be an actor, I don't think, and so

1637
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: as much as I walked away from Boy Meets World

1638
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 3: feeling like I didn't really still know how to act,

1639
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 3: I knew how to be to Panga, but I didn't

1640
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 3: know how to act, and I was never fully comfortable

1641
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 3: with auditioning, and I never really cared so much about

1642
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 3: it that I was like, I've got to throw myself

1643
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 3: in there, and I'm just willing to do any I'll

1644
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 3: do theater, I'll do this. I just wasn't that person

1645
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 3: so I could very easily say yes. I felt very stifled,

1646
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: and I felt like only one person had say and

1647
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 3: whether or not I was doing well. And sure sometimes

1648
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: that was true. But at the end of the day,

1649
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 3: I think the fact that my entire acting career is

1650
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 3: just to Panga was probably more than I could have

1651
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: ever dreamed of and was enough of a success that

1652
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 3: I didn't ever feel the need to relentlessly pursue something

1653
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 3: more than that. And so I just don't think I

1654
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 3: ultimately loved acting as much as I thought I would have.

1655
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 3: I just got lucky enough that I fell in love

1656
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 3: with Topanga and I got to be that.

1657
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I had a little different experience than than

1658
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 5: they did on the show. I have never really consider

1659
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 5: myself an actor. I always consider myself an entertainer, because, again,

1660
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 5: like Danielle, I was never.

1661
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: Like I want to learn the craft, and.

1662
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm playing a drug addict, so I've got to

1663
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 5: go actually shoot heroin.

1664
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 4: Like I've never been that guy.

1665
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 6: I just wasn't.

1666
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: I loved making people laugh. I loved being the center

1667
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: of attention.

1668
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 5: And I realized kind of early on in the process

1669
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 5: that if I just did that and kind of you know,

1670
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 5: I took advice and notes and everything around when I

1671
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 5: thought they I needed them, and other times I just

1672
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 5: kind of went okay and I did my thing.

1673
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 4: And because of that, I.

1674
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 5: Think I left with a maybe a healthier view of

1675
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 5: acting or entertaining than some of the younger cast members did.

1676
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 5: But it's also because I was absolutely treated differently, so

1677
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 5: there was there was that going on, But I you know,

1678
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 5: when when I left and found voiceover, and and that's

1679
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 5: when the actors me more took over. When I got

1680
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 5: to do funny voices and multiple voices at the same time,

1681
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 5: and that's when I really started to love that side

1682
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 5: of the craft.

1683
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: Other than that I was the guy put a camera

1684
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: on me and I just want to make you laugh.

1685
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: And I think I'll be that guy for the rest

1686
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: of my life.

1687
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: So so fantastic. Thank you guys for allowing us to

1688
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 2: grow up with you again. It's so amazing to like

1689
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: just see your journey and see where each of you

1690
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: are and to like help like all the fans be

1691
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: a part of it and just be witnessed to it. Again.

1692
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: It's it's just a gift that you guys don't know

1693
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: that you're giving.

1694
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 6: And from a fan perspective, like like last year, it

1695
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 6: felt like you guys were just getting comfortable in the

1696
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 6: space of boy Mee to World, and now you guys

1697
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 6: feel like you have full ownership like it appears that way.

1698
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 6: Do you guys feel so much more secure and confident

1699
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 6: where you are with your relationship with boy meets World

1700
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 6: and you know that ownership is something that is really apparent.

1701
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 6: I think now that you guys have been doing this

1702
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 6: for two years, two seasons, So.

1703
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 3: Thank you so much cool, thanks guys, and thank you

1704
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 3: both for being here and sharing your unique and wonderful

1705
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 3: personspective and you're always so complimentary and make us feel

1706
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 3: so good about ourselves. Also, so thank you for making

1707
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 3: us feel warm and fuzzy. And we will see you

1708
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 3: again at the end of season three, which we're keeping

1709
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 3: track will probably be in about six months.

1710
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: You guys season two so great.

1711
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 3: It feels like it, right, I know, so, I mean

1712
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,919
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll see you before then as well, just personally,

1713
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 3: but also we will see you again for the recap

1714
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: of season three. Thank you both for joining us, and

1715
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 3: we'll see you next time.

1716
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: Bye.

1717
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1718
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: They're so wonderful.

1719
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: Can we make that a series where they just come

1720
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: and just tell us we're awesome for an hour?

1721
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1722
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: I like that idea.

1723
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: I love that idea.

1724
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 3: We could do a bonus episode of just brumme EAT's

1725
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 3: World compliments.

1726
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, No, I.

1727
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 7: Think next time we have them on, we have to

1728
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 7: we have to be like you guys, come on, give

1729
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 7: us some criticism, tell us what you're right completely disagreed about.

1730
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 4: I mean, they must disagree with us about I know.

1731
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 3: I wish I would have pushed back far harder on

1732
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 3: And they were like, there was one that we liked

1733
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 3: that well. I guess they said the beard. They really yeah, interesting,

1734
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: and we were probably just a little more like, well,

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Speaker 3: the obvious overall thought is pretty apparent.

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Speaker 7: Its sicky, yes, but right well, it's like the Alan

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Speaker 7: Amy stuff. It's like we reached the point we were like,

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Speaker 7: all right, we don't need to keep bringing up.

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Speaker 3: Right, we did it people understand. Let's yeah, well, I

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Speaker 3: can't wait to uh see what we're in for with

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Speaker 3: season three. Let's let's just jump right on in. Thank

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Speaker 3: you all for joining us for this episode of Pod

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Speaker 3: Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram

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Speaker 3: I said at the beginning, we have got new shirts

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Speaker 3: in our merch turned on by merch amazing pod meets

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Speaker 3: worldshow dot com. And we'll see y'all next time. Writer

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Speaker 3: send us out.

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Speaker 4: We'll love you all. Pod dismissed.

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Speaker 7: Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted

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Speaker 7: by Danielle Fischel, Wilfredell and Ryder Strong. Executive producers Jensen

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Speaker 7: Karp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo,

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Speaker 7: producer and editor, Tara Sudbach, producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and

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Speaker 7: by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. You can follow us on

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