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Speaker 4: I'm gonna touch on the sign. I know we talked
Speaker 4: about it last week eight, but it's been some new
Speaker 4: revelations in the Sonya Macy case. Remember we were saying
Speaker 4: it was just a bunch of stuff that didn't make sense, right.
Speaker 4: Come to find out allegedly that the guys wife is
Speaker 4: a nurse and it fell out with the woman earlier.
Speaker 5: So what do you mean she she had it with
Speaker 5: her dude or whatever what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the police officer was her. If the police officer
Speaker 4: has a wife, right, she's a nurse. She fell out
Speaker 4: with the Sonya Macy lady. Evidently from what I'm hearing,
Speaker 4: she fell out with her at the hospital, and so
Speaker 4: she told her husband about it, and evidently, I guess
Speaker 4: you know, she said she had someone outside, like outside
Speaker 4: of her house, messing with her, bust the windows of.
Speaker 1: Her car and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't all that, I know.
Speaker 5: All I know is the report was that she called
Speaker 5: because she thought she heard a prowler outside.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm okay, so it was.
Speaker 4: Him, and so he responded to the call and went back.
Speaker 4: So evidently this man possibly had something against that lady already.
Speaker 6: That that actually aligned with what I think it was.
Speaker 6: A sun said something about it. Somebody said something about
Speaker 6: having seen that office on the scene earlier in the day.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that it would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 6: And so that could be that could possibly intersect with
Speaker 6: with him, uh, you know, knocking, you know, busting the windows,
Speaker 6: you know, busting the window panes. So he could have
Speaker 6: an excuse for her to call nine one one, and
Speaker 6: then then he could come back and and you know,
Speaker 6: be the officer on the scene, give him a great
Speaker 6: alibi and a great excuse to blow up, blow a
Speaker 6: head off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when you think about it, right, he came
Speaker 4: in the house asthma, she had mental problems. And the
Speaker 4: only way she would know if the woman had mental
Speaker 4: problems if he had access to either her hospital records
Speaker 4: or he had a prior incident with her before and
Speaker 4: it was something the police.
Speaker 1: Data base about it.
Speaker 4: If that's the case, if this guy's wife went and
Speaker 4: told her husband that she had she got mental problems,
Speaker 4: you can't give nobody's medical information away. Frough that that's
Speaker 4: against hippo, that's against some hippo laws. If I go
Speaker 4: to the hospital, if I go to the hospital and
Speaker 4: somebody finds out, Oh that's the dude from the podcast.
Speaker 4: Unless say I got let's say I got even asthma,
Speaker 4: and they go out and tell their friends, you know,
Speaker 4: he got asthma and stuff, they can go to exail
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 1: That's against the law.
Speaker 4: Mm. Yeah, you can't tell nobody's medical You can't tell
Speaker 4: people's personal medical history.
Speaker 1: Dog and public. Man. The bottom line, the bottom line.
Speaker 6: The bottom line is this uncivilized ment need to be
Speaker 6: brought to heal Like this, dude, let's just take away
Speaker 6: all of the premeditated stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, let's just let's just say that didn't even exist.
Speaker 6: What we saw is enough to put that clown away
Speaker 6: for life, for effort, you know.
Speaker 1: And really, I'm gonna tell you something else.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 6: They look at the president because I signed an executive
Speaker 6: art of to start executing police office. I kill them,
Speaker 6: straight up. I kill them, just like we get life.
Speaker 1: We kill.
Speaker 6: The death penality. Depending on what state you're in, the
Speaker 6: death penalty is on the table. If you kill a
Speaker 6: police automatic, it's it's automatically on the table. It should
Speaker 6: be automatically on the table. When they kill us illegally, m.
Speaker 4: Because that was an execution that that wasn't the that
Speaker 4: was the fear for his life he executed that woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he showed no.
Speaker 5: Basically, he was just showing how he was using his
Speaker 5: authoritative figure to his advantage. And then if you know,
Speaker 5: if the wife has an issue, that's just gonna make
Speaker 5: his attitude go through the roof.
Speaker 3: A guy who.
Speaker 5: Has been on record of what he went through a
Speaker 5: four different departments and or six different departments, like there
Speaker 5: was no way he should have been allowed to be
Speaker 5: any any kind of patrol officer. When you've been dismissed
Speaker 5: or you've been reprimanded from six different departments, that shows
Speaker 5: you got some kind of issue within yourself. As far
Speaker 5: as the police is, can we already got motherfucking we
Speaker 5: already got a situations with them, and now you allow
Speaker 5: a person who's done been you know, out of five
Speaker 5: six other departments come over the year, I guess they
Speaker 5: were desperate for patrol men, because that's a dude who
Speaker 5: should have never been allowed to even police anyone.
Speaker 3: He can't even police hisself.
Speaker 1: Well, he should have never had a badge, you know.
Speaker 4: And my thing is this will if you are an
Speaker 4: ex military guy that has been like dishonorably discharged. You
Speaker 4: should be automatically and never he's going to join any
Speaker 4: police force because do you know how big of a
Speaker 4: screw up you got to be get dismissed from the military.
Speaker 4: You got to do a whole lot of messing up.
Speaker 4: It needs to be guidelines. It's like being a police
Speaker 4: officer is probably a doctor, a police officer, fireman. You
Speaker 4: have to be a person that's really a public servant type.
Speaker 4: And that's why I'm a fan of community policing. I
Speaker 4: wish they would start hiring guys that are really from
Speaker 4: the neighborhood. You got a you know, you it ain't
Speaker 4: all knuckleheads floating around the neighborhood. You got guys that
Speaker 4: would make good police officers to come back to places
Speaker 4: like comp you know, Fifth War, different places that actually
Speaker 4: come up in the environment of no people.
Speaker 1: I think it just make better policemen.
Speaker 6: You're absolutely right in that regard. However, Uh, once those
Speaker 6: police officers uh go home. You know, at some point,
Speaker 6: those police officers have to go home. And those police
Speaker 6: officers probably are not gonna live in in the community
Speaker 6: where they serve, even if they are black, They're probably
Speaker 6: not gonna live in the community that they that they serve, right,
Speaker 6: and then uh, there will be time where you're gonna
Speaker 6: have a spill over when when you call the police,
Speaker 6: whoever is available, whoever's in the area, whoever close by,
Speaker 6: it's gonna it's gonna you know, uh, converge on the team.
Speaker 6: But beyond beyond that, and this, this is a greater
Speaker 6: concern of mine when these cops uh are not controlling
Speaker 6: our neighborhood. Let's say you got you know, regular pill
Speaker 6: billy bub bubba. Wait, that can't stand black folks. He
Speaker 6: can't hate us, straight up, regular clansman, proud boy. Right,
Speaker 6: he don't have to work in our community to get
Speaker 6: some free killed. He can wait till we cross that line.
Speaker 6: So you basically he can say, Okay, that's their community.
Speaker 6: I can't police that area. But the moment they drive
Speaker 6: that car, pass that that railroad track, once they cross
Speaker 6: that intersection, I got them. I can do I still
Speaker 6: can do whatever I want to do with them. So
Speaker 6: maybe black people are not getting killed in their own communities,
Speaker 6: but they're getting killed right outside of their own communities.
Speaker 1: Now the bodies are still turning up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's because we'll you know, we see them
Speaker 4: put police officers in jail. There's nothing. They get off
Speaker 4: more often than not. You know, it's very it's probably
Speaker 4: I don't know the exact statistics, but it's really rare
Speaker 4: for a police officer to really go to jail. You know,
Speaker 4: usually he has some kind of special they put a
Speaker 4: special unit on and they let him off because they
Speaker 4: still all police officers in the day and they look
Speaker 4: out for each other. So these guys really don't have
Speaker 4: any consequences. And I think the only solution that you
Speaker 4: have it is just like you said, I bet you
Speaker 4: if they start frying a few of them dudes, people
Speaker 4: start thinking.
Speaker 1: Well, it's two ways.
Speaker 6: It's only really two ways for them to change their
Speaker 6: behavior is either they're held accountable in the court law
Speaker 6: or either the people hold them accountable in the streets.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's it.
Speaker 6: It ain't no other way because we can try everything else,
Speaker 6: it don't work.
Speaker 1: Don't know. I don't care how much you march.
Speaker 6: They yeah, they might put a den in it, but
Speaker 6: it seemed like they ain't slowed down and the killing.
Speaker 6: Remember when they was protesting George Floyd's murder at the
Speaker 6: height of the protests, somebody got killed right down the street,
Speaker 6: a police The person right killed another black person right
Speaker 6: down the street. It's almost like that. It's almost like
Speaker 6: they killed purposely just to prove a point that hey,
Speaker 6: ain't none changed. Just like just like when Barack Obama
Speaker 6: became president, black people were still getting slaughtered in the
Speaker 6: streets by police in record numbers, and it's almost like
Speaker 6: they acted up. I remember when we had we had
Speaker 6: our Chief Lee Brown in Houston. I think he was
Speaker 6: the first black police chief in Houston. Well, guess what,
Speaker 6: more black people died on his watch at the hands
Speaker 6: of the police than they did when he when we
Speaker 6: didn't have a black u police chief. And that is
Speaker 6: because some of these guys they got the mentality like, hey,
Speaker 6: ain't none changed. We're gonna prove to y'all that you know,
Speaker 6: ain't nothing changed, and we're gonna keep doing exactly what
Speaker 6: we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: What we're doing. What's gonna stop us.
Speaker 6: They killed a woman named Ida Ley de Laney on
Speaker 6: the highway, a black woman who was a grandmother on
Speaker 6: the highway. White boys behind her, they were drunk police officers.
Speaker 6: They were drunk, they were bothering her. It was a
Speaker 6: road raided situation where they pretty much ran off the
Speaker 6: road when they ran up on it. She down, she pulled,
Speaker 6: you know, she pulled that thing, and you know, before
Speaker 6: she could get hers off, they gunned her down and
Speaker 6: they all walked. Keep in mind, they were drunk, they
Speaker 6: were agitators, they were provocators.
Speaker 1: They went after her and they got off.
Speaker 6: So this is the type of stuff that they do
Speaker 6: because they know that they got they got the damn
Speaker 6: qualified immunity. They got skin colored immunity. You did, know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So that so that's that's what we're
Speaker 6: up against. So it doesn't matter, you know, it'll happen.
Speaker 6: Don't let me back up. It does matter. It does
Speaker 6: have it has it has some uh, it has some
Speaker 6: credibility of putting pole police officers in the neighborhoods with
Speaker 6: people that look like them.
Speaker 1: That it has some, But that is not the complete answer.
Speaker 6: The complete answer is accountability all the way across the board,
Speaker 6: whether they killed in the neighborhood or whether they killed
Speaker 6: outside of our neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know what the thing is, I don't
Speaker 4: wish you one hundred percent on your first solution. It's
Speaker 4: starting to Friday as because you know, and I hearing
Speaker 4: all these people talk about Trump. Now, Trump has said
Speaker 4: multiple times that he's going to give police officers immunity.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much saying I don't give a damn what
Speaker 4: they did. They're gonna they not gonna have to stand trialt,
Speaker 4: They're not gonna have to do nothing. They not going
Speaker 4: to have to do none of that. They just gonna
Speaker 4: be able to go out there, rape, kill, and do
Speaker 4: whatever it is they want to another thing that they do.
Speaker 4: I saw a thing today to where you had a
Speaker 4: guy that was an ex military He was a Mexican
Speaker 4: dude going into Vegas. He had eighty five thousand dollars
Speaker 4: in his Trump the automatically told me, said, this is
Speaker 4: my life savings. I've been saving my money. I'm moving,
Speaker 4: I like keeping my cat. That's just right. It gets
Speaker 4: the lord to have cash. They told him, well, according
Speaker 4: to our dogs, this is drug money. He said, I
Speaker 4: canna give dogs tell this drug money.
Speaker 1: He said money.
Speaker 4: These bills are over twenty years old. So if it's
Speaker 4: your life savings, why did you have this money? He said, Well,
Speaker 4: I can go to the bank and take my life
Speaker 4: savings out. You can go to the bank and get
Speaker 4: any thousand dollars out. Police have been out here taking
Speaker 4: people's money, and their whole thing is that they just
Speaker 4: ring them like a game without with impunity.
Speaker 1: It's a game if they can go in your car.
Speaker 4: Let's say you just came off a tour and you
Speaker 4: got sixty thousand dollars in your car, they can pull
Speaker 4: you over and take your money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they try to do me like that. I had
Speaker 5: went on tour that I was in Japan and I
Speaker 5: came back and you know, some of my people's lived
Speaker 5: in a not so desirable part of the city. But
Speaker 5: I still, you know, because I'm feeling I'm legit enough
Speaker 5: that i can go, you know, visit my peoples. So
Speaker 5: upon entering the apartment complex, they're going in and I'm
Speaker 5: coming out, and they automatically eyed me. So they instantly
Speaker 5: busted U turn followed me for about maybe ten minutes,
Speaker 5: and then just decided, fuck it, we're gonna flash you.
Speaker 3: So they flash me. They walk up to the car, they.
Speaker 5: Doing all they mumbo jumbo, and then so they take
Speaker 5: me out the car. Said I had a warrant out
Speaker 5: of La County, but it's a different county. So you
Speaker 5: know how that worked. So anyway, they going through my
Speaker 5: bags and stuff. So I had maybe about ima have
Speaker 5: maybe about four grand cash that I didn't positive and
Speaker 5: the bank when I got back from tour. So they
Speaker 5: find the money. Then they find my backpack and seeing
Speaker 5: pictures of me standing with a gang of Japanese dudes
Speaker 5: and low low riders and all of that, so they
Speaker 5: automatically figured I was a drug dealer with connections to Japan,
Speaker 5: and they tried to confiscate my money and I showed
Speaker 5: them playing tickets and everything, and they basically handcuffed me,
Speaker 5: took me in, took my card to the impound, kicked
Speaker 5: in my speaker boxes, everything.
Speaker 3: Looking for drugs and all that.
Speaker 5: So and then they stuck me in the hole in
Speaker 5: the holding cell all the way in the back of
Speaker 5: the jail. You know, they didn't get me, no phone, called,
Speaker 5: none of that shit. And it just happened to be
Speaker 5: a black cop come back there, see me sitting in there,
Speaker 5: and he actually let me out because I didn't have it.
Speaker 3: You know, the warrant was out of La County. La.
Speaker 5: Wasn't finna come pick me up for a traffic ticket,
Speaker 5: you feel me?
Speaker 3: So they let me out.
Speaker 5: But the whole matter of it was that they wanted
Speaker 5: to affiliate me with some underworld shit because they wanted
Speaker 5: to confiscate my money. They wanted to time my money
Speaker 5: to some drug dealing and then then after asking me
Speaker 5: about it, then they want to start asking you who
Speaker 5: do you know, well, who can you give us or
Speaker 5: you don't know anybody that you know, So they're very
Speaker 5: upfront with trying to confiscate whatever they feel you give me. Nigga,
Speaker 5: I had two brand new motherfucking Madden Football games in
Speaker 5: the package. They took them. Motherfuckers. They took my iPod, Nigga.
Speaker 5: My whole car was toe up because they was looking
Speaker 5: for drugs. But then they gonna justify. You go to
Speaker 5: ask the tow truck yard where's all my shit at?
Speaker 5: They gonna say they said, hey, the police came in
Speaker 5: here and they just went through your car. They tore
Speaker 5: everything up and they took what they wanted.
Speaker 4: And you have no type of recourse to go and say, hey,
Speaker 4: y'all gonna did forty five damage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't give a fuck. They not don't care.
Speaker 5: The whole plot was they wanted to confiscate my money,
Speaker 5: and the money was with a bank receipt like all that.
Speaker 5: It was in a bank envelope, everything, But they still
Speaker 5: tried like hell to confiscate the bread because they just
Speaker 5: want to associate us automatically to negativity. You know, nigga,
Speaker 5: you from the streets, are you drug dealing? What's what
Speaker 5: these pictures of you and all these Japanese dudes. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 5: I was an entertainer and went on tour. They wouldn't
Speaker 5: believe that shit for nothing. So we already got a
Speaker 5: couple of strikes against us. We're trying to go up
Speaker 5: against the laws, you know what I'm saying, especially when
Speaker 5: they have that prejudiced mind state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big part of it.
Speaker 6: The other side of it is they just wanted that money,
Speaker 6: and they'll come excuse just like they want to kill
Speaker 6: They'll come up with any kind of excuse to kill
Speaker 6: you when they want to kill you. When they want
Speaker 6: that money, They'll come up with any kind of excuse
Speaker 6: to get that money, whether they try to whether they
Speaker 6: try to attach you to some type of drug activity,
Speaker 6: whether they try to attach you to a bank robbery
Speaker 6: or whatever.
Speaker 1: They just want that money.
Speaker 6: And the trip part about it is even when they
Speaker 6: are dead wrong. Even though when the evidence is clear
Speaker 6: and you have proof that it's your money, they can
Speaker 6: take your money anyway and make you fight to get
Speaker 6: the money back.
Speaker 1: Definitely, And sometimes when.
Speaker 6: You live out of state and they confiscate your money,
Speaker 6: you know, you might it might add up to what
Speaker 6: you say. You know what, man, it ain't even worth
Speaker 6: going back in this little small town where they run
Speaker 6: everything and they try to intimidate you, and hell, my
Speaker 6: life might be on the line going back there trying
Speaker 6: to get this money, you know, because you know, you
Speaker 6: might think, well, they hit me up for five thousand dollars,
Speaker 6: I gotta go stace over to get my money. To
Speaker 6: try to get my money, I got to get a lawyer.
Speaker 6: And you know what, by the time I get the
Speaker 6: lawyer and keep going back and forth, man, it might
Speaker 6: be a washed So, you know what, let them have it.
Speaker 6: So imagine how much money that people have just left
Speaker 6: behind and allowed them to just take and keep going.
Speaker 6: Imagine imagine how many people have had their homes burglarized
Speaker 6: by the police, invaded by the police, and they just
Speaker 6: took televisions and stuff and said, hey, we're confiscating this
Speaker 6: because it's drug, it's drug popperty, it was bought with
Speaker 6: drug money, you know. So they do this all the time.
Speaker 6: It's actually a culture. This is what this is part
Speaker 6: of what they do. And this is one of the
Speaker 6: biggest reasons why a lot of cops like to work
Speaker 6: in small towns, because you can get away with stuff
Speaker 6: like that a lot more often than smaller towns where
Speaker 6: the police chief is also the school superintendent, his wife
Speaker 6: work in the police department, in the permits department, his nephew,
Speaker 6: his nephew and his son are the deputies.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: His cousin is the land surveyor.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: This is how they control people and intimidate people by
Speaker 6: and they stack the deck in their favor. And this
Speaker 6: is why in the smaller towns oftentimes you can see
Speaker 6: a whole lot more corruption then you will see in
Speaker 6: these big cities, because in the bigger cities, that's more
Speaker 6: of uh, that's more of a of a of overseers,
Speaker 6: and there's more checks and balances you dig and and
Speaker 6: and that's more exposure, there's more media, so they a
Speaker 6: lot of them, they'll try to move over to these
Speaker 6: little small towns so that they can run this run
Speaker 6: the cities and and and treat it and treat people
Speaker 6: like trash and get away with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know what this particular guy and the
Speaker 4: way these guys were able to do with it is
Speaker 4: Nevada police officers.
Speaker 7: They have.
Speaker 4: They have an adoption with the Feds to where they
Speaker 4: can seize properly. So that means if you come in
Speaker 4: that freeway from California, Let's say we're going to Vegas
Speaker 4: for the weekend. We taking our wives to Vegas for
Speaker 4: the weekend, and we may have ten fifteen thousand dollars
Speaker 4: cast let's say whatever, whatever it is, it's five thousand, whatever,
Speaker 4: you're going there, they can pull you over and say
Speaker 4: what a dog smelt this and that on your money. Now,
Speaker 4: you know, every dollar in this United States ain't no
Speaker 4: telling how much money don't pass through somewhere. It might
Speaker 4: have weed in it, it might have cocaine, and they
Speaker 4: might have some anything in it. But still if they
Speaker 4: not charge you with a crime, they should be they
Speaker 4: shouldn't be able to do that. But they changed the
Speaker 4: law because that's how they was getting away with the
Speaker 4: stuff in places in Vegas. So they that adoption thing
Speaker 4: where you can act like the fares and just seize
Speaker 4: people's things.
Speaker 1: You can't do that no more.
Speaker 4: Because they said it was like something like seven million
Speaker 4: dollars unclean money in Vegas.
Speaker 1: They just don't took for people over the years.
Speaker 4: Think about how many things that Think about now you
Speaker 4: go to Vegas your gamble. Let's say you winning ten
Speaker 4: thousand dollars and you know, way back on, what's the
Speaker 4: stop there from jacking you for that ten thousand dollars?
Speaker 1: Say you ain't win this into seem right, right, they
Speaker 1: can do whatever.
Speaker 5: It's unfortunate fact, it seems like, you know, that's a
Speaker 5: never ended story for us. You give me for for
Speaker 5: us people dealing with the police and those situations of
Speaker 5: the brutality that we suffer behind the police. People don't
Speaker 5: want to people don't want to shine light on it.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's shipped. It's been going down for
Speaker 5: a long time, man, you know, the killings, the the
Speaker 5: unjustice and all that shit. It's been going down in
Speaker 5: the neighborhoods. And now that it's spread out to it
Speaker 5: ain't just us anymore. You feel me used to be
Speaker 5: the ghetto nigga or the project nigga, or the nigga
Speaker 5: on the streets banging, selling dope. Now, could just be
Speaker 5: a regular citizen, man, You give me you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. George Floyd, Sonya, you know how many people
Speaker 5: were killed in that time of George Floyd situation.
Speaker 3: Uh, it was a gang of us shot and killed.
Speaker 5: And it just like you said, it just seems like
Speaker 5: they would to prove the point of so what, it's
Speaker 5: still gonna happen, you know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 5: so what y'all tried to pay y'all tried to put
Speaker 5: attention on one situation, and like I was trying to
Speaker 5: tell people, shit, we were going through that shit for years.
Speaker 5: We've been going through police rutality for years, man. And
Speaker 5: not to not to put a demo on George Floyd
Speaker 5: or Sonya or any other black person who has been
Speaker 5: you know, unfortunate to police, but we were seeing this
Speaker 5: shit gone for a long time. You know, sometimes it's
Speaker 5: unfasible to niggas because they used to come through the
Speaker 5: neighborhood and just do it the fuck.
Speaker 3: You give me jacket.
Speaker 5: Niggas doing whatever they want, beating our asses, taking us
Speaker 5: to hold in takes and putting us in jail for
Speaker 5: twenty four hours just to get us off the street.
Speaker 5: We've been going through that shit for a long time,
Speaker 5: getting our faces kicked in and beat up in the
Speaker 5: back of the police car or in holding tanks, putting
Speaker 5: us in the cells with the enemies and shit, and
Speaker 5: watching us fight it out on the motherfucking monitors in
Speaker 5: the holding tanks. I mean shit, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: motherfucking brutality we've been through.
Speaker 3: You give me well, since you've.
Speaker 4: Been a public the primary figure on yous and have
Speaker 4: you suffered any abuse of the hands of police?
Speaker 1: Have you ever had something happen to what? They tried
Speaker 1: to jam you up? Once?
Speaker 6: But I kicked three of their asses that day, so
Speaker 6: I still won't you know that day I put the
Speaker 6: shit out of three of them.
Speaker 1: They was you know, yeah, one of them got out
Speaker 1: of line. I was in the club right.
Speaker 6: Let me preface this by saying, you really don't want
Speaker 6: to get into it with the police unless you're ready
Speaker 6: to crash out if you really way out hand your business.
Speaker 6: I ha hand of your business, I understand, but you
Speaker 6: really don't want to get into it with him, because
Speaker 6: even if you win, you're gonna lose right case, and
Speaker 6: I'm in the club. My partner goes into the girl's restroom.
Speaker 6: He got a cast on his leg.
Speaker 1: My partner is a cock hound boy.
Speaker 6: He crazy by women, and he's just woman crazy and
Speaker 6: just just going to the women's restroom and chasing a woman.
Speaker 6: Next thing, I know, they got him. They got him
Speaker 6: jacked all up. You know, keep in mind, he got
Speaker 6: a cast on his leg, got broke. They just got
Speaker 6: him jacked up, dragging him out the club. So I'm
Speaker 6: standing on the side. I say, hey, man, they passed
Speaker 6: him by me. I said, you know, I had my
Speaker 6: drink in my hand. I say, man, y'all ain't got
Speaker 6: to handle him like that. I keep in mind, I
Speaker 6: don't mess with the police. I stay out of their way.
Speaker 6: I limit my contact with them. This particular police officer
Speaker 6: was a shorter dude who was a little short, stocky
Speaker 6: red dude, right, and he was a trouble maker. I
Speaker 6: always watched him in the club how aggressive he was
Speaker 6: with black folks. He was very aggressive, and so I
Speaker 6: always stayed out of his way. But on this particular day,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know, I guess got my pott
Speaker 6: in some riding for my pott. So I say, yea, y'all,
Speaker 6: ain't got the hand of him like that. And dude
Speaker 6: was like, well, you can get out too. So I
Speaker 6: had a drink in my hand and I set the
Speaker 6: drink down. I say, I put the drink down, and
Speaker 6: I kind of like standing it on the table. I
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, I've been kicked out of better places.
Speaker 6: So I started marching out with him. So as I'm
Speaker 6: marching out, the cop stepped on the heel of my shoe.
Speaker 1: I looked. I looked back at him and gave him
Speaker 1: a look.
Speaker 6: And now I'm saying that now I'm coming because I
Speaker 6: and I'm saying to myself, if he stepped on my
Speaker 6: foot again, I'm gonna piece him up. So I took
Speaker 6: a few more steps and he stepped on my foot again.
Speaker 6: I turned around, dropped him, and I know I gotta
Speaker 6: throw one hit to quit it because it's three of them.
Speaker 6: So I got everything I got, I gotta give it
Speaker 6: to him. So I turned around, hit him with fang,
Speaker 6: dropped that boy. The other one come, he come a
Speaker 6: little try to get a red dressing. As soon as
Speaker 6: he got in right there where I can slide in
Speaker 6: to him, I dropped him. Next one come, he started
Speaker 6: to get dropped. Now he coming, but he being a
Speaker 6: little bit more cautious. He really really intimidated though he's scared,
Speaker 6: but he coming anyway.
Speaker 1: M h. I got up on him.
Speaker 6: I act like I was gonna I act like I
Speaker 6: was kind of like gonna spam, and so he got
Speaker 6: a little gressed. And when I got him in that
Speaker 6: little range where I knew I could get him, I
Speaker 6: turned back around, dropped him. Every last one of them
Speaker 6: suckers didn't have nothing. I hit every last one of
Speaker 6: them with a one hit, a quit, a one punch
Speaker 6: if the thius said, knocked the ass out with one punch,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And after I drop them,
Speaker 6: it's two big white cops behind me at the door
Speaker 6: because I'm trying to get out the door I'm bout.
Speaker 6: I'm probably about six seven eight steps away from the door.
Speaker 6: I know once I hit this door, I'm gone because
Speaker 6: I'm in the parking lot and it's cars everywhere. I
Speaker 6: know the area like the back of my hand, So
Speaker 6: I'm gone. I'm trying to get to the back to
Speaker 6: the door. They the two white cops blocked my way out.
Speaker 6: You know, they blocked the entry and I couldn't get out,
Speaker 6: so they tackled me on the ground, all of them.
Speaker 6: They rushed me, attacked me on the ground, and the
Speaker 6: one who started to fight stole on me. Yeah, he
Speaker 6: hit me in the eye. And long story short, I
Speaker 6: was on probation. I was on ten years probation. This
Speaker 6: is right at the start of the ghett Boys. This
Speaker 6: is like nineteen eighty nine, ninety so this is right
Speaker 6: when we're starting the heat up, and I had I
Speaker 6: was already on ten years probation. Now I got to
Speaker 6: assault against the police officers three and I got to
Speaker 6: get out of this, bro because if I don't get
Speaker 6: out of this, the whole landscape in Age Town is
Speaker 6: that hip hop different, Gonna be different in Age down
Speaker 6: and in the South if I don't get out of
Speaker 6: this right here.
Speaker 1: In any event, a dude showed.
Speaker 6: Up the court for the hearing and he had amnesia.
Speaker 1: He told a different story, and then judge dismissed the case.
Speaker 6: Now, I wouldn't advise anybody to get into it with
Speaker 6: the police unless you're ready to crash out, unless you're
Speaker 6: ready to go all the way out. And I wouldn't
Speaker 6: allow I wouldn't advise anybody to just allow themselves to
Speaker 6: be murdered, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I hear people saying like.
Speaker 6: Yo, man, you got to kill me, You kill me,
Speaker 6: kill me, I'll be only I'll be thinking the opposite.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I don't know real just
Speaker 6: letting them take me, like, get me, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So if you ain't willing to go all
Speaker 6: the way out and crash out, I would say, don't
Speaker 6: even try. Man, go ahead and comply, go ahead and
Speaker 6: deal with it. Stay away from him. When you're around
Speaker 6: the police. Really, what you want to do is limit
Speaker 6: your You want to limit your contact with them, and
Speaker 6: you want to get them out of your face as
Speaker 6: soon as possible. So when you get pulled over by
Speaker 6: the police, even if they profile you wish, they often do,
Speaker 6: even if they profile, even if you feel like they're wrong,
Speaker 6: don't do what I did when I was a youngster
Speaker 6: and I was driving that that brand new Lexus when
Speaker 6: it first came out, When Lexus first came out, I
Speaker 6: had I had the big one and I'm riding down
Speaker 6: the freeway.
Speaker 1: They pulled me over and rush our traffic.
Speaker 6: Now you know, the police do not pull people over
Speaker 6: and rush our traffic on the freeway.
Speaker 1: They pulled me over and rush our traffic on the
Speaker 1: freeway in Houston.
Speaker 6: And I'm hot because I know these food pulling me
Speaker 6: over because I'm black. He profiled me out of all
Speaker 6: these thousands of the damn cars on the freeway, especially
Speaker 6: in the rustion over traffic. He pulled me over and
Speaker 6: rush our traffic. And I'm hot, And what you pulled
Speaker 6: me over?
Speaker 1: Fuck? Say the fuck you pulled me so I'm hot.
Speaker 3: Hot.
Speaker 6: So he finally was like, yo, well this this called
Speaker 6: mashed the description of a stolen vehicle. I say, man,
Speaker 6: you know, god damn where this car is stolen. I
Speaker 6: just bought this car because I had the fresh tags
Speaker 6: on the back. I said, I just bought this car,
Speaker 6: you know it? And uh. Then he walked back up
Speaker 6: to me, gave me my my I d back and
Speaker 6: just drove off.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: So I would advise, don't act like I act, don't
Speaker 6: behave like I did. That that's really not the right
Speaker 6: way to do because at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: I know that it's hard to believe, but police officers
Speaker 6: are people too. You know there are people just that
Speaker 6: some of them behave like uncivilized much so it's easy
Speaker 6: to forget that. But they got feelings, they got emotions,
Speaker 6: they got pride, and when they got that bad jone.
Speaker 6: Just like anybody in the position of authority, they want
Speaker 6: their respect and if they don't get it, you're gonna
Speaker 6: have some problems. So the easiest thing to do, like
Speaker 6: I said, in that song, we had a song. Ghetto
Speaker 6: Boys had a song called the Secret. Uh it was
Speaker 6: George Clinton actually performed that song with us. But it's
Speaker 6: a song called a Secret on the Foundation album. While
Speaker 6: I said, I'm yes, sirn, no, sirn. But when need
Speaker 6: to pull off this a motherfucking dick, sucking red necked
Speaker 6: son of him, bitch.
Speaker 1: When he pull off, not while he's in my present.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And the name of the game is to get home, baby,
Speaker 6: get home. Just like they're trying to get home, I'm
Speaker 6: trying to get.
Speaker 3: Home to you.
Speaker 6: The name of the game is to get home, Get home,
Speaker 6: Get home. Play the States, play the stay Alive, play
Speaker 6: the State Free. So yeah, I've had a couple issues,
Speaker 6: but I know, but I keep in mind. Also I
Speaker 6: got family members who are police officers. I got family
Speaker 6: members who are high ranking police officers. I got I
Speaker 6: got family members who are in the FBI. Okay, so
Speaker 6: I you know, I understand I'm not one of them
Speaker 6: dudes who all cops ain't dishing all cops. I'm not
Speaker 6: like that because I know those dudes personally and I
Speaker 6: know that they solid dudes. They're good dudes. It's like
Speaker 6: you was alluding to early. You was talking about how
Speaker 6: we got some good dudes in the hood that would
Speaker 6: make some good police officers, right.
Speaker 1: Right, So they are good.
Speaker 6: God, there are good cops out there, but these uncivilized
Speaker 6: much they got to go.
Speaker 1: I'm here for sure.
Speaker 4: I got relatives in the law enforcement too, and ain't
Speaker 4: got homeboys as good cops. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: my son got pulled up by one of my partners
Speaker 4: told he said, man, I'm gonna tell you stop. You know,
Speaker 4: I saw you on your phone and doing this and that.
Speaker 4: He said, everybody ain't gonna be as nice as me.
Speaker 4: I know you're dead, and I'm gonna tell me he
Speaker 4: was out here on the phone when he was driving.
Speaker 4: He said, you know my dad, He said, yeah, you
Speaker 4: wanna call him right now. And my boy called me
Speaker 4: and told me it is just a lot of good
Speaker 4: cast as police officers. I got homeboys, real good police officers.
Speaker 4: They serious about what they do, they care about your bad.
Speaker 4: But it's a contingency of officers man to make everybody
Speaker 4: look bad, and every police officer in bad. It's actually
Speaker 4: it's probably more good people in the forest than these
Speaker 4: bad people. But them few ones that sit in there,
Speaker 4: they such fuck ups and such bad people. They reflected
Speaker 4: on everybody.
Speaker 6: The only thing about the only thing about that that.
Speaker 1: Fact that you may presents the conundrum.
Speaker 6: Because we we want to be safe, just like everybody else,
Speaker 6: like black people want to be safe in their neighborhoods.
Speaker 6: We don't want to not like the police. We don't
Speaker 6: want to not like the police. But how can you
Speaker 6: like a motherfucker they don't like you, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So that's what that's what we find ourselves at.
Speaker 6: So these cops who are who are the a holes,
Speaker 6: they got to be exposed by the ones who are not.
Speaker 6: In order to really shift the pendalum, you have to
Speaker 6: have more cops who are really good cops speaking out
Speaker 6: and until we get them to speak out.
Speaker 1: We really can't.
Speaker 6: We're really gonna struggle with really saying that we got
Speaker 6: more good cops than bad cops until we get the
Speaker 6: ones that really speak out. Because once you get, once
Speaker 6: you make it cool to actually be a solid cop,
Speaker 6: once you make it cool, once you make it cool
Speaker 6: to be an honorable police officer, then honorable becomes the norm.
Speaker 6: It becomes the standard. Right now, being an honorable police
Speaker 6: officer is not the standard. Being a corrupt peace officer
Speaker 6: or police officer is the standard. Being a clown, being
Speaker 6: an asshole, being arrogant, being a drunk being, being a druggie.
Speaker 6: That is the standard right now, because that is what
Speaker 6: we see mostly. And we could talk about good cops
Speaker 6: all we want, but we don't have the luxury to
Speaker 6: We don't have the luxury to downplay how serious that
Speaker 6: is because lives are.
Speaker 1: On the line right Human beings are.
Speaker 6: Being slaughtered in the streets every day, and if not
Speaker 6: being slaughtered, they're being raped, they're being rawed, they're having
Speaker 6: their homes invaded, Like this is my home. I paid
Speaker 6: the rent here, I pay the life here, I paid
Speaker 6: the mortgage. You know, I paid to get the lawn mowed.
Speaker 6: Mode I pay for this, dwelling, I pay for this.
Speaker 6: And just because you got a gun and a badge,
Speaker 6: you can just kick the door in when you feel
Speaker 6: like it and starts shooting.
Speaker 1: Naw, I'm found now.
Speaker 6: So until until there are some real repercussions, ain't it
Speaker 6: ain't gonna be a change. It's almost like somebody going
Speaker 6: to school. Man, imagine if your kid went to school.
Speaker 6: Let's say eight you sent your kids to school, and
Speaker 6: every day your kid went to school, he getting into
Speaker 6: a fight, he fighting teaching, He ain't making no good grades,
Speaker 6: he telling them teacher gets my ass, my daddy, NCA,
Speaker 6: He'll kick your ass, fuck you, then come home and
Speaker 6: then tell you what he ain't gonna do, and all
Speaker 6: this what And then on top of that, he got birthday,
Speaker 6: big old birthday bash coming up, and you throw him
Speaker 6: the birthday bash. If your child can still get what
Speaker 6: they want at the end of the day, if you're
Speaker 6: gonna reward bad behavior, there is no incentive to change
Speaker 6: such bad behavior.
Speaker 1: And that's where we find ourselves at with these cops.
Speaker 6: If these cops were being held accountable, there's a good
Speaker 6: chance that Sonya Massey would still be alive because that
Speaker 6: cop Shune Grayson would have known that he was going
Speaker 6: to be investigated and that was a great probability that
Speaker 6: he would be prosecuted and convicted. See when they know,
Speaker 6: that's why you don't see a lot of black cops
Speaker 6: killing people for nothing. You don't see black cops illegally
Speaker 6: gunning people down. It ain't because black cops are so wholesome.
Speaker 1: He ain't that. It is because they know that there's
Speaker 1: a line that they can ain't cross.
Speaker 6: Really, they know that if they do this, this is
Speaker 6: gonna happen, They're gonna be held accountable. That's why they
Speaker 6: don't do it. The black cops are held accountable. Even
Speaker 6: the Hispanic cops are here accountable to a great extent,
Speaker 6: but these being held accountable by far and large.
Speaker 4: And my experience now I don't have some white boys soever,
Speaker 4: but the maskin and black cops are here the hardest
Speaker 4: on you.
Speaker 1: Seem like they're trying to make a point. You ever
Speaker 1: noticed that, e.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they, like I said, it's the profiling of
Speaker 5: the area. You get me, and you know that attitude
Speaker 5: is more or less of of you know, niggas being
Speaker 5: still bred in the neighborhoods that they probably, uh, you know, despised.
Speaker 5: They despise eyes, especially when they try to impress.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 5: They despise when you're not following the code that they
Speaker 5: followed to get to where they're at. So we get
Speaker 5: harassed a little bit more by our own kind in
Speaker 5: our sections, you get me, That's just the norm for
Speaker 5: us here.
Speaker 1: You get me, You get harassed. But do you get killed.
Speaker 3: No, you might not get killed.
Speaker 5: You might you might get a little your pride hurting,
Speaker 5: a little embarrassment, talk shit to or called names or whatever.
Speaker 5: But there ain't never been a situation where I don't
Speaker 5: think niggas was worried about the black cop pulling a
Speaker 5: gun on them, gunning them down. You know, you more
Speaker 5: or less talk shit to the niggas, you sell out
Speaker 5: type of motherfuck or fuck you. You know, I don't
Speaker 5: think we ever feared that. But getting pulled over by
Speaker 5: a white cop, you damn Mike, You get me, You
Speaker 5: have a bere like, oh, this motherfucker might shoot me,
Speaker 5: you feel me, So let me try to comply a
Speaker 5: little bit more differently.
Speaker 1: You know, And I've seen both instance.
Speaker 4: I've seen where you have a cop that got a
Speaker 4: real you know, he got a real reason to pull
Speaker 4: somebody over.
Speaker 1: There may be stephen something. He's just trying to give
Speaker 1: them their ticket and get on. We don't have the
Speaker 1: luxury that the white boys. Guys. I've seen white boys
Speaker 1: go in on police officers.
Speaker 3: Mm hm oh yeah.
Speaker 5: You see them get pulled over by their own come
Speaker 5: they had cut some motherfucker out.
Speaker 3: They'll do ship that. You wouldn't even fatho them up doing.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 1: Why do they do that? Though?
Speaker 6: They do it because there's no incentive for them to
Speaker 6: change behavior. If the police started busting across their motherfucking
Speaker 6: heads and shooting them, they'll stop doing that. They It
Speaker 6: ain't that they brave them. It ain't that it is
Speaker 6: the only thing that's keeping them from doing at behaving
Speaker 6: a different way, stony things, stopping the police from doing
Speaker 6: them the same way. It ain't because they have some
Speaker 6: type of infinite love for them. It is because of
Speaker 6: the law. It is the law, when the law, they
Speaker 6: know that they're protected by the law. That is the
Speaker 6: only reason why that they behave like that. Because they
Speaker 6: are police officers who do kill their own kind, and
Speaker 6: who do rob their own kind, who do weaponize law enforcement,
Speaker 6: who do weaponize law enforcement to get back at their
Speaker 6: enemies in their family and in their neighborhood, and you know,
Speaker 6: the on jobs where their spouses work at. You know,
Speaker 6: they weaponize the police departments all the time. They weaponize
Speaker 6: law enforcement all the time. But the only reason why
Speaker 6: they don't cross those lines is because of the law.
Speaker 6: The only reason why white folks talk to the police
Speaker 6: the way they do is because they already know that
Speaker 6: the police ain't gonna do nothing. But what happens the
Speaker 6: first time the police disregard the cold The police crack
Speaker 6: a white person across here. That's what they do. Okay, yo,
Speaker 6: Yeah they ain't still really bad ass. They not know
Speaker 6: Billy bad as they started talking.
Speaker 4: I don't seen the white folk ship the police and
Speaker 4: get away with it. Yeah, but I don't get small
Speaker 4: with the police. I have my hands on lieuten and two.
Speaker 4: If they ask you for something, okay, I'm gonna reach
Speaker 4: my glove for i'mna grab my insurance.
Speaker 6: Here you go, I got one better for you. Don't
Speaker 6: keep your insurance and your glove compartment, keep it above
Speaker 6: in your bisor don't even keep it in your console.
Speaker 6: Don't keep it nowhere where they could they that they
Speaker 6: could possibly say that a gun.
Speaker 1: I thought he was reaching for a gun. There ain't
Speaker 1: nothing left out but the bias.
Speaker 6: Keep that, keep keep that, keep that insurance card right
Speaker 6: up there, you know on your visor.
Speaker 1: Some people got a little patch on.
Speaker 6: They got a little pouch that they keep on their
Speaker 6: windows that they or they're having handy and when the
Speaker 6: police pull them over, they just put it right there
Speaker 6: on there on their on the window. It's a little clip.
Speaker 6: Put it on the window. Boom d is right there.
Speaker 6: But yeah, do you think.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are really scared whill a
Speaker 1: lot of police?
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, they're not scared, bro. And we need to
Speaker 6: stop saying that. We need to stop, we need to
Speaker 6: stop entertaining that ship. They're not scared. These same cops
Speaker 6: who claim that they're scared are signing up to come
Speaker 6: and work in Fifth Ward and come and.
Speaker 1: They signed up. Look, when they're in the academy, they're hoping.
Speaker 6: They get signed to the hood because they know they
Speaker 6: can run rampant in the hood. They know they can
Speaker 6: be disrespectful. They're looking for the action. They want to
Speaker 6: use that gun, they want to kill something. They looking
Speaker 6: to come into the hood. They're not afraid of us.
Speaker 6: Why look, man, would you be afraid if you had
Speaker 6: look for anybody has ever been in a gang. Some
Speaker 6: of you have been been been involved in games, right,
Speaker 6: and I'm talking about the audience.
Speaker 1: Some of you have been involved in games. Right.
Speaker 6: When you're in a gang, you feel a little you
Speaker 6: feel fortified, if you feel confident.
Speaker 1: You know, you know you got your homies.
Speaker 6: They got my back, man, And you know to a
Speaker 6: spot being worried about none because man, you know somebody
Speaker 6: get out line, y'all gonna serve them up. Well, that's
Speaker 6: how the police have. They know that they're the biggest
Speaker 6: game in the entire country. So that gang is so
Speaker 6: big that if they don't have enough on the ground
Speaker 6: right then and there, they'll come in from out of state.
Speaker 6: They're they're shipping in from out of state, fine in.
Speaker 6: You know, they be driving all in from all over
Speaker 6: the place, different counties. They just come from everywhere or
Speaker 6: converge on the action, come to get you. So that's
Speaker 6: why you can have the biggest and the baddest, most
Speaker 6: dangerous dude in the hood who got everybody shook. But
Speaker 6: when the police come and say, yo, we got a
Speaker 6: warn for your risk for traffic. Take his ass. Gonna
Speaker 6: comply because he because he know their game is much
Speaker 6: larger than his game. And their gang is a legalized game.
Speaker 6: Their gang gets their checks from the government. Their gang
Speaker 6: is their gang is actually it's more funded than any
Speaker 6: game that they could ever even imagine started.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just at one time, you was a little
Speaker 4: kid when the Compton shriff Department was cracking, right.
Speaker 3: When you Compton Police Department.
Speaker 1: Yeah, police department.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had the PD before the sheriffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Compton PD, I heard was the worst stuff in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was.
Speaker 5: It was kind of a rough time for us growing
Speaker 5: up in Compton. Uh, if you was affiliated with gangs,
Speaker 5: you know, they would patrol hit your block. You know,
Speaker 5: you probably go to jail every night just for what
Speaker 5: they would try to call loitering. But you know, we
Speaker 5: were just hanging out in the hood. So you go
Speaker 5: to jail, you know, beat up, you know, taking the
Speaker 5: enemy hoods and dropped off, you know ship they were
Speaker 5: cooking themself.
Speaker 3: You know, a couple of and.
Speaker 5: PD got killed by somebody back in the days because
Speaker 5: they were so fucked up. Uh, and then you know
Speaker 5: the situation with you know the police chief, I mean
Speaker 5: back then, and and you know their affiliations with death
Speaker 5: row records and all that. So Counting PD was vicious
Speaker 5: and that's why they got canceled out, and that count
Speaker 5: the Sheriff's moved in and had to take over because
Speaker 5: the police department was just too vicious, man, it was.
Speaker 3: It was too corrupt and vicious.
Speaker 4: Yeah, will they had dope come up missing up the
Speaker 4: evidence room and everything.
Speaker 6: But yeah, they got dope coming up missing out the
Speaker 6: evidence room in every police department. Hey, all of them family,
Speaker 6: it's a culture. All of them operate the same way.
Speaker 6: They just take turns getting caught. They all operate the
Speaker 6: same way. Man, It's a culture. They all they like
Speaker 6: the same. Part is is that once somebody do become
Speaker 6: a police officer and they do try to go in
Speaker 6: and try to do the right thing. It's almost like
Speaker 6: how teachers operate. The teacher try to go do the
Speaker 6: right thing, go in for the students. The cop try
Speaker 6: to do the right thing, go in for the citizens.
Speaker 6: But then he realized that his biggest fight is not
Speaker 6: the citizens. The biggest fight is not The biggest fight
Speaker 6: is the administration. Is the people that run it. The
Speaker 6: biggest fight is the management. You know, the in every
Speaker 6: industry in the United States of America, the worst of
Speaker 6: the worst people are at the very top. And that
Speaker 6: is why nothing changes. From the CDC to UH, to
Speaker 6: the healthcare industry, to the transportation industry, to the clergy,
Speaker 6: to the finance industry, to educate UH, every social every
Speaker 6: single industry bro the worst of the worst people are
Speaker 6: at the very top. And that's why nothing ever really changes.
Speaker 6: And also and also because good people are not willing
Speaker 6: to take the risk that the bad and the worst
Speaker 6: of the worst, those uncivilized much are. Good people have
Speaker 6: a limit. Bad people don't. An uncivilized mutt will do anything.
Speaker 6: They'll kill anybody, including their mama. They'll kill their children
Speaker 6: to stay on the stay in power, to stay on top.
Speaker 6: They don't mind dropping a bomb on a defenseless country.
Speaker 6: They'll drop a bomb on their own, on a community
Speaker 6: that they serve.
Speaker 1: They don't care. Whatever it takes to stay in control
Speaker 1: and maintain power, they'll do it. They'll sell out their
Speaker 1: citizens to allow company needs to come in and put
Speaker 1: UH faith, put.
Speaker 6: Chemicals in our food and water supply. They'll strike a
Speaker 6: deal with a company to sell us manufactured meat like
Speaker 6: meat they actually make make mad up meat. They'll they'll
Speaker 6: do that for a dollar. They'll sell us out. Then
Speaker 6: we've been sold out. And what's a whole lot of that?
Speaker 6: If you know this, bro, if you ever notice, will.
Speaker 3: If you go to a suburban.
Speaker 1: Community, if you go to a suburban community, right, they.
Speaker 3: Put yourself up what you Jack?
Speaker 1: I said, hold on you you're talking?
Speaker 4: Oh go ahead, yeah, if you if you, if you
Speaker 4: are in a suburban community, you will notice they don't
Speaker 4: sell that. They don't sell the old hundred. They don't
Speaker 4: sell an old English a hundred. Gonna sell the MD
Speaker 4: twin and all that. You going there, you're gonna find
Speaker 4: all that. But if you come and Watts personal, you
Speaker 4: gonna see all that shit. In the white community don't
Speaker 4: allow that. The white community don't allow that. If you
Speaker 4: notice in the black community, some McDonald's on every corner.
Speaker 6: Yeah it's a McDonald's. It may not be a McDonald's
Speaker 6: on every corner. And the white communities, but all lists
Speaker 6: say the suburban communities, but every other corner McDonald's got everybody.
Speaker 6: So everybody getting McDonald's is an equal opportunity killer. They
Speaker 6: killing everybody. They McDonald's don't give a damn. They killing everybody.
Speaker 6: And those same burgers they sell that same meat they
Speaker 6: cooked with that same grease at McDonald's all over the country.
Speaker 6: So yeah, those those fat foods, McDonald's, churches, pipe eyes, uh.
Speaker 1: Burger king, all that stuff. Yeah, they we all in
Speaker 1: that regard.
Speaker 6: If you eating fast food, you're gonna get the same thing,
Speaker 6: same thing at Taco Bell. They sell that Taco Bell
Speaker 6: in Compton, they sell that Taco Bell in fifth Ward.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, man. Well man, you know what. The one
Speaker 4: thing that I really wish we would start doing, man,
Speaker 4: and my big thing is we can sit up here
Speaker 4: and talk about this ship that we blew in the face. Man,
Speaker 4: we need to start doing something about it. We need
Speaker 4: to start holding people accountable. And I know a lot
Speaker 4: of the homelies or not in the politics or whatever.
Speaker 4: And I don't even know if politics is the answer,
Speaker 4: but we need to stop supporting the bullshit. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I've already started myself personally, you know, like I think
Speaker 6: each one reached teach one. Start with yourself and then
Speaker 6: any kids that you produce. You know, it's it's it's
Speaker 6: incombent upon you to do that. Make sure that you
Speaker 6: you know that you break the side, you know, make
Speaker 6: make you know, even with my kids, man, you know,
Speaker 6: early on, man, I made my kids when they were
Speaker 6: like when they were in school, I made them do
Speaker 6: community service every year, Like like they had to do
Speaker 6: community service in the summer. They did community They did
Speaker 6: community service. That was part of their uh, that was
Speaker 6: part of them paying their dues to society for living
Speaker 6: the life that they had. You know, you gotta do
Speaker 6: community service. You gotta give back, so, you.
Speaker 4: Know what, I think that's important, man, And I think
Speaker 4: I wish more parents had that mentality that you had
Speaker 4: of making their kids, you know what I'm saying, go
Speaker 4: do stuff for the community.
Speaker 1: I think right now, man.
Speaker 4: We just stuck in such a fucked up place in
Speaker 4: a miracle right now, man, where stuff was real crazy.
Speaker 4: Right now, man, American survive at the rate we're going,
Speaker 4: this trajectory that we that we're on right now, that
Speaker 4: this trajectory that we're not gonna we can't survive.
Speaker 1: Like it's too divided.
Speaker 6: It's too divided, not just along racial lines, but along
Speaker 6: uh it's divided along age lines, is divided along economic
Speaker 6: lines or religious lines. Every line that you can think of.
Speaker 6: We didn't figure out a way to divide ourselves. And
Speaker 6: that is why if it ever really went down, if
Speaker 6: we ever had a foreign enemy, had to deal with
Speaker 6: a foreign enemy, America would lose. America would be destroyed.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about a foreign formidable enemy. America. America would
Speaker 6: not make it. There'll be too many people saying, you
Speaker 6: know what, ship, I'm tired of this anyway, Let's see
Speaker 6: what the Let's see what the other side looks like. Oh,
Speaker 6: it's for sure right now, man, and looking at this
Speaker 6: were about to get up out of here in a minute,
Speaker 6: will But looking at our looking at the run for
Speaker 6: the president of the United States, you got Kamala Harris
Speaker 6: and you have Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Do you think Kamala stands a chance? Yeah? She got
Speaker 1: that food shaking in his boots.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, she does standard sham I mean she she
Speaker 6: uh yeah, she stands a chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: I've been really doing my research on her, and a
Speaker 4: lot of thoughts that I had about her initially, I've
Speaker 4: kind of changed my mind because that's the thing that's
Speaker 4: real dangerous right now. You got a lot of people
Speaker 4: to put false information out there. Her information is not
Speaker 4: really true and it sounds real convincing, and if you're
Speaker 4: not careful, let's star. I tell everybody I don't get
Speaker 4: into politics with people. I say, vote on who you
Speaker 4: want to vote for, but make sure you're want to
Speaker 4: go do the research on that. Don't just believe what
Speaker 4: Joe Blow is saying or this person is saying. Don't
Speaker 4: just tune in to Charlotte Mane and hear what he're
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 1: You go on your own.
Speaker 6: I don't know if Kamala is the answer, but I
Speaker 6: know Donald Trump ain't.
Speaker 5: And as anybody to answer, though, is anybody to answer?
Speaker 6: I subscribe to anybody but Trump philosophy. And that's why
Speaker 6: I stand. And none of y'all out that could tell
Speaker 6: me anything different in everybody but Trump man, I'll.
Speaker 7: Vote still who you're voting for.
Speaker 1: You know what, for Mickey Mouse before I vote for
Speaker 1: that sucking Right.
Speaker 4: Now, it's not gonna be Donald Trump anytime. Me as
Speaker 4: a black man. Now, anytime I hear a dude, his
Speaker 4: first thing is I'm gonna make it to where the
Speaker 4: police move with impunity, they could.
Speaker 1: Do what they want to.
Speaker 4: That's not good for me as a black man. That's
Speaker 4: not good for my sons. That's not good for my friends,
Speaker 4: my brothers, my cousins, other relatives doing.
Speaker 1: This podcast with me right now, it's not no good
Speaker 1: for none of us.
Speaker 4: Right. That means it's really gonna be open season then, right,
Speaker 4: And just because you gotta look at it like this,
Speaker 4: every last one of us that's on this podcast live
Speaker 4: in the suburbs. Now, we don't live in the hood, right,
Speaker 4: That don't mean we immune, That don't mean we escape
Speaker 4: nothing they can. If anything, we probably more at risk
Speaker 4: because now I know my neighborhood is majority of all
Speaker 4: white police officers.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you definitely, and you already know where I
Speaker 5: stay at. You got you definitely gotta be careful coming
Speaker 5: up here because they will racial profile your ass in
Speaker 5: a minute.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. So we ain't even more danger
Speaker 4: than the dude that's in the hood. You feel what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, because more than mightly, we know I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna run across no black police officers, not very few
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 1: Right. So if a guy's not taking that serious.
Speaker 4: And they asked Donald Trump about signing Mason, he had
Speaker 4: way he didn't know what they was talking about. How
Speaker 4: are you the president of the United States? If the
Speaker 4: dude run for the president don't know what's going on?
Speaker 6: He said, you mean the one with the water about
Speaker 6: the water her You're like, yeah, yeah. The moderator that
Speaker 6: was today, right, yeah, the moderator at the National Black
Speaker 6: was it, Well, how do he said, it's the uh,
Speaker 6: the National Association of Black Journalists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, journalists, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: So the moderator asked him about whether or not this guy,
Speaker 6: Sean Grayson uh, should be granted would he be granted
Speaker 6: immunity under a Trump presidency? And he was like, uh,
Speaker 6: you mean the one with the water about the water
Speaker 6: You're like, yeah, he don't he don't really know what's
Speaker 6: going on, or he's faking he's pretending that he don't
Speaker 6: know what's going on, and something about the water the war.
Speaker 6: If he don't know what's going on, if he didn't
Speaker 6: know what was going on, then you gotta you gotta
Speaker 6: again take a look at him, but also take a
Speaker 6: look at his team. Like you you're going to answer
Speaker 6: to feel some questions, uh, to from a group of people,
Speaker 6: an organization who represents a group of people that you're
Speaker 6: trying to attract. You want them to vote for you,
Speaker 6: and you don't know what the what the burning topics are,
Speaker 6: you know, for for their uh you know, for their interest.
Speaker 6: You don't know what that. But the burning that Sonya
Speaker 6: macy a Massy shooting has to be one of the
Speaker 6: top three topics in the black in black society right
Speaker 6: now exactly.
Speaker 1: And you don't know he made that.
Speaker 4: His team should have made sure, Okay, you want to
Speaker 4: go talk to the black basis, they make sure that
Speaker 4: you speak on this and even if you go on
Speaker 4: the line, make sure that you make sure, Oh, this guy,
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be eligible for my program. You want to
Speaker 4: go in this dude. The first thing he says, oh,
Speaker 4: the one with the water.
Speaker 6: Then he said, then he said, uh, you know, maybe
Speaker 6: he'll be prosecuted under my watch.
Speaker 1: Maybe he be prosecuted.
Speaker 6: Maybe not see what they you when they when they
Speaker 6: When he says stuff like that, what he's really saying
Speaker 6: is that we're gonna make it a law that police
Speaker 6: officers will have complete immunity.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: So what that does is that wipes out all of
Speaker 6: the hope that families will be given any type of
Speaker 6: justice when they do illegally kill black folks. But it
Speaker 6: also gives them him and whoever he decide is going
Speaker 6: to have that power. Whatever judges or whatever, probably have
Speaker 6: some type of special committee or whatever.
Speaker 1: Whoever decides, Ah.
Speaker 6: It'll give them the latitude to continue to have the
Speaker 6: power to decide when they want to make an exception
Speaker 6: to the rule, and that'll be it'll be totally on
Speaker 6: them to decide.
Speaker 1: Just like when you're dealing with judges.
Speaker 6: They have, they have, they have economy to decide when
Speaker 6: they're going to apply the law, when they're gonna punish
Speaker 6: and when not who they're going to be strict on,
Speaker 6: who they're going to be leaning it on. They got
Speaker 6: too much power. That's too way, that's way too much power,
Speaker 6: and that can't be allowed.
Speaker 4: And you know what, And even if I'm not a
Speaker 4: target anymore, I got son is twenty some years old,
Speaker 4: son is thirty.
Speaker 1: Some of gods young.
Speaker 3: You know, we all have young men exactly.
Speaker 1: Under us, and they're in danger.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to It would break my heart to
Speaker 4: hear the Karan riding down the street in the car
Speaker 4: and the police pull him over and they do something
Speaker 4: to him because they assume he had gained.
Speaker 5: Been Yeah, I tell my son that I try to
Speaker 5: tell him to comply if he ever went through that situation,
Speaker 5: Like you said, Willie, just comply you and me, you know,
Speaker 5: whatever they want to do, they want you to get
Speaker 5: out the car. You know, just just just comply. Would
Speaker 5: have give them no reason to you know, fuck with it.
Speaker 5: Our innocent young men who are trying to be you know,
Speaker 5: who are trying to make it and not go through
Speaker 5: that lifestyle. But unfortunately they'll be They'll be innocent victims,
Speaker 5: just like you know, a lot of us work, you know,
Speaker 5: to the police brutality and just the profiling and shit.
Speaker 5: You would hope that when you move to a different area,
Speaker 5: they would be considered regular citizens, but you know, it's unfortunately,
Speaker 5: the color of our skin doesn't allow us to get
Speaker 5: away with that. And even when we move out the
Speaker 5: hood and try to move the decent places, you're still
Speaker 5: a number one target because they want to know what
Speaker 5: the fuck you're doing here, you get me, That's the
Speaker 5: first thing where they want to know is what you're
Speaker 5: doing in this part of town and this neighborhood. So
Speaker 5: I try to tell my son to you know, if
Speaker 5: anything happens, you know, he hasn't been pulled over just
Speaker 5: obey the shit and don't try to put yourself in
Speaker 5: any predicaments to where they would want to get feisty
Speaker 5: with the motherfucker you get me, because they could be
Speaker 5: they could be having a bad day like Homeboy, and
Speaker 5: whatever happens today, it's gonna come out and I'm gonna
Speaker 5: show it. And like you said, a lot of them
Speaker 5: motherfuckers get immunity with shit and get away with the ship.
Speaker 5: So well, you definitely gotta be careful if you're growing
Speaker 5: up in.
Speaker 3: These times and a young man.
Speaker 5: You know, you know, they raise your profile a lot
Speaker 5: of us in situations and ship just because shit, you
Speaker 5: you're black.
Speaker 3: I mean, shit, what else do we supposed to do?
Speaker 3: You're black?
Speaker 4: And they don't think them police officers didn't know that
Speaker 4: you was mcate the gangster refer that just makes they there.
Speaker 4: You willie dat a gainst the reference. Good boys, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna make an example the records.
Speaker 5: I got a little bit of that, but I tried
Speaker 5: to avoid ruying out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I got a little.
Speaker 5: I definitely got a little bit of that. You know, Uh,
Speaker 5: still being in the neighborhood and still you know, living
Speaker 5: in content when the rap career first jumped off, you
Speaker 5: get a little bit of that, but then ten as
Speaker 5: it tends to go along, Uh, you try to garner
Speaker 5: a little respect from them even though you in that situation. Yeah, nigga,
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the brutality and the situations we go
Speaker 5: through living here.
Speaker 3: But still, you.
Speaker 5: Know, you know what, nigga ain't out here trying to
Speaker 5: pop niggas and sell drugs, So give me some respect. Also,
Speaker 5: they want to be respected, but say you got to
Speaker 5: give respect too, Yeah, for.
Speaker 6: Sure, So we'll go and that and that. That's normally reciprocated.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: You know, they know they know what what who, They
Speaker 6: know who it is and who it ain't. They know
Speaker 6: what it is and they know what it ain't, you know,
Speaker 6: so you ain't got to go around trying to prove nothing.
Speaker 1: Whatever. It's by you carry yourself.
Speaker 6: It's how you carry yourself, just like you can tell
Speaker 6: when the police carry yourself and in a respectful manner
Speaker 6: and the right way, then they can tell when you
Speaker 6: carry yourself in a certain way and that and it's
Speaker 6: more like that. It's more like that. You know, it
Speaker 6: ain't got to necessarily be said all the time. But
Speaker 6: I wanted to clarify something you said about the police. Uh,
Speaker 6: you know killing you know, Uh, the police don't kill
Speaker 6: game bangers. They kill regular they killed they kill a lot.
Speaker 6: They kill our best. They don't kill they don't kill
Speaker 6: game bangers. They don't kill rock robbers. You know, they
Speaker 6: don't kill murderers. They kill our best. They kill the
Speaker 6: kid who got a career. They killed a kid who
Speaker 6: got a future, who going to school, who just graduated college,
Speaker 6: who just graduated high school, who everybody in the neighborhood loved. Uh,
Speaker 6: they kill that guy that's the hard work or that's
Speaker 6: that that's that lived in the house with his children
Speaker 6: and his woman.
Speaker 1: They kill the best that we have. That's who they kill.
Speaker 6: It. They're not killing the game bangs because they've resolved
Speaker 6: to the to the that game bangers will probably take
Speaker 6: out themselves. They're not concerned about game bangers. They're not
Speaker 6: they're not concerned about game bankers. They're concerned about those
Speaker 6: of us who represent the future.
Speaker 1: That's what. That's who they killed. There's the and will
Speaker 1: what days your podcast drive? Huh? What days you dropped
Speaker 1: your podcast audio? On Mondays? Sometimes sometimes whens Uh, but
Speaker 1: Mondays every.
Speaker 4: Morning I'm gonna throw I'm gonna leave a link. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna leave a link in or description this episode. Man,
Speaker 4: y'all make sure, man, y'all gonna subscribe. Man, what do
Speaker 4: these podcasts? You got one of the best podcasts out there. Will,
Speaker 4: you've been having some I've messed with your podcast. Man,
Speaker 4: you've been having some good ass guests on there. I
Speaker 4: love the one about my man that ran the record
Speaker 4: stores in Chicago. What was my man's name, George Daniels.
Speaker 3: George, George, Yeah, George, I know George.
Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, I've been to George is a gang of
Speaker 5: times man, Yes, indeed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a must stop if you went to Chicago.
Speaker 6: George's damn definitely music room.
Speaker 5: Georgia's Music Room was definitely a must stop if you
Speaker 5: if you was pushing a record and promoing and you
Speaker 5: was on tour, that was one of your main stop.
Speaker 5: Record labels made sure you went to Georgia's music room.
Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah, he definitely from the era of black retailers. Man,
Speaker 4: y'all make sure, man, y'all go go do that.
Speaker 3: Will.
Speaker 1: We got a little bit, we.
Speaker 4: Got a few people listening to all you of this podcast. Man,
Speaker 4: make sure y'all go subscribe to Willie D show Man.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave it in the description of this episode,
Speaker 4: y'all make sure y'all check in all right, We'll coming on.
Speaker 1: Brother. Absolutely appreciate y'all.
Speaker 5: Love will but y'all people saying to keep up the
Speaker 5: good work, Yes, sir, well.
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