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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. My man, Jimmy Wong. How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: you know you can't you can't. You can't think I'm white.

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Speaker 1: You can't think I'm Jewish, you can't think I'm a

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Speaker 1: tall you can't think of some other disguise, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I and I deal with that, and I champion

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Speaker 1: myself when I realized there's a responsibility that comes with that.

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Speaker 1: And because of that, I don't allow it to to

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Speaker 1: to become the driving force to why I'm successful. I'm

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Speaker 1: successful because I've been blessed with a lot of talents,

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Speaker 1: and you've been blessed with a lot of talents to Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: and I transition that to the whole YouTube channel that

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Speaker 1: you launched in twenty with Ashley Adams. Tell us because

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Speaker 1: that's a phenomenal. That's a that's a big that's a

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Speaker 1: big deal. It's the same year, but that's a big

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Speaker 1: deal because it started as an idea, but now one

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Speaker 1: point three million subscribers. That's a money making conversation right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: started off as like a passion slash question flash you

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Speaker 1: know need, Like my brother and I are sitting around

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Speaker 1: the kitchen table going what does the internet need that

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Speaker 1: doesn't have right now? And this is twenty eleven, after

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Speaker 1: I made the music video and tried to use the

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Speaker 1: galg YouTube for a while. It wasn't that it didn't

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Speaker 1: feel as sustainable as fun as I wanted to be,

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Speaker 1: And so my mind started hopping to the next thing,

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Speaker 1: just like, what can I do now that's that's interesting

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Speaker 1: and fun to me? And the cooking show just had

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Speaker 1: to be on the list, and so we wanted piece

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Speaker 1: of fiction then and it's just sort of been like

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Speaker 1: a steady progression of a passion project slash Love between

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Speaker 1: myself and my co host actually for the past eight years,

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Speaker 1: and about two years ago we were like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's time, let's make a cookbook. I think we have

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Speaker 1: the skills necessary. We don't want to do it too early,

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Speaker 1: you know, we were still rookies, and so we're like,

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Speaker 1: I think we're mature enough. I think we understand this

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Speaker 1: market and what we want to do here and how

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Speaker 1: we want the book to look, specifically as creators um

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Speaker 1: And so we launched into it and made a book.

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Speaker 1: And you know that again, like you said, it's not

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Speaker 1: just staying down writing something that took two years of editing, photos,

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Speaker 1: working with the publisher and they're finally released in two

469
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Speaker 1: years after we started it. Now, let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: but the YouTube channel at one point three million subscribers,

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Speaker 1: we're along the way. You went, wow, this is a business.

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Speaker 1: This is you know, you know, you know, because you,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you're just sitting in the kitchen with

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Speaker 1: your brother trying to think of an idea of what's

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Speaker 1: the next step, what's missing? You come up with this

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Speaker 1: brilliant idea and I and I don't laugh when I

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Speaker 1: say that this is a brilliant idea of my friend.

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Speaker 1: Obviously one point three million people think so too. And well,

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Speaker 1: your talents at all time to cooking or baking, because

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Speaker 1: I know you you give your gamer and you give

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Speaker 1: all credits over there to Ashley, how did that relationship

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Speaker 1: come about? And how did you start saying that this

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Speaker 1: is truly a direction that's gonna catch on? You know?

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Speaker 1: It was we were at Disneyland. Of course that happened

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Speaker 1: uh a mutual friend's birthday, and we didn't know each other,

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Speaker 1: and at that time I was still formulating the idea

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Speaker 1: of my head. I met actually asked what she did.

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Speaker 1: She showed me a couple of pictures of these like

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Speaker 1: little fun takes that she made for her friends using

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Speaker 1: fonding and you know, the sort of stuff you see

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Speaker 1: on cake class, and of like, wait, this is perfect.

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Speaker 1: You want to come and help me out and make

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Speaker 1: a recipe? And before I knew it, I just sort

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Speaker 1: of de factove in or my co host. But I

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Speaker 1: think that the moment that we realized that I realized

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Speaker 1: at least that this was a business. Um, was the

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Speaker 1: moment that a brand approachests and what, hey, do you

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Speaker 1: want to do something together and we can pay for it.

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Speaker 1: But if you guys are cool with it, then we're

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Speaker 1: cool with it too. And it took a while, right,

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Speaker 1: It was like a few years before brand started picking up.

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Speaker 1: And when I first made the show, I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, what movie wouldn't want this? This is

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Speaker 1: great promotion. It's organic. The entire show is based off

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Speaker 1: of the franchises, so don't get a question if you

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Speaker 1: support or sponsor a franchise. But it didn't happen at

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Speaker 1: first because I think the show is still picking up steam.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe it was there a newer industry for

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. But after a while, you know,

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Speaker 1: after doing a couple of brand deals, I looked at

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Speaker 1: the whole operation and one, you know, this is something

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Speaker 1: that we could scale up. This is something that we

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Speaker 1: could just make more than just a hobby for fun Um,

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Speaker 1: because I actually wanted to be a TV host when

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Speaker 1: she came originally, and so this was definitely in line

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Speaker 1: with her dreams. Fun pressed to do without having to

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Speaker 1: worry so much about turning a profit or whatever for

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Speaker 1: the first couple of years because it's just together a

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Speaker 1: passion project. Now let's talk about the book. Okay, because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that, um is, you have five recipes

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Speaker 1: and I like. I like, first of all, I love

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Speaker 1: the book. Okay, this is five recipes because I want

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Speaker 1: to cook immediately after reading the book. Um the shrimp cocktail,

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Speaker 1: which is for some reason, if you if you go

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Speaker 1: and yeah, you know something, going the restaurant and I

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Speaker 1: order a shrimp cocktail. It's something about it. Such a

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Speaker 1: simple dish that's so tasted me that I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's from Beetle Juice. That's on page fifty three, the

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Speaker 1: movie Beetle Juice. That's when the shrimp started dancing around

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Speaker 1: and then you, uh, trade to my heart that crabby

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Speaker 1: sliders from Spongeball crap SquarePants. Oh my god, I I

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Speaker 1: gotta make that the Tianna Tianna's come gumbo from Princess

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Speaker 1: in the Frog. And then oh, hey, look at it.

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Speaker 1: I read the recipe. I'm from Houston, Texas by way

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Speaker 1: of Louisiana, so I would not be telling you. I

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Speaker 1: would not be telling you I'm gonna make gumbo if

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Speaker 1: I didn't look at the recipe and go, h this

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Speaker 1: is crap, some crap. No. No, I looked at the

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Speaker 1: recipe Jimmy, y'all, you guys are the real deal. You're

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Speaker 1: a real deal. Okay. And then, uh, the thing. I

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Speaker 1: love oatmeal cookies to death, my friend, that's my favorite cookies, oatmeal.

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Speaker 1: So when I saw the giant oatmeal cream pie from Honey,

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Speaker 1: I shrunk the kids. You have me, brother, you have it.

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Speaker 1: But then you closed out. You closed out with this

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Speaker 1: one from my one of my all time favorite shows

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Speaker 1: with the worst inding in the history of TV, Game

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Speaker 1: of Thrones, the lemon cakes. The lemon cakes. So Sean

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Speaker 1: McDonald and what I'm gonna do is you know what

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Speaker 1: I got. I got. I got seven hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: four thousand Facebook followers, eighty and apercent of my followers

551
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Speaker 1: a female, and I always post foo. I'm gonna post

552
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: your book if you don't mind, tell everybody to buy it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a couple of these recipes and and

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00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: and post them on my social media because Jimmy, I'm

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00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: a fan. If Ashley ever has time to come on

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Speaker 1: the show, please invite her on the show. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring you on the show and just you know,

558
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: let's slow it down, talk about your story, talk about

559
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: and I haven't touched the entire story, but as you

560
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: want to touch enough of it to let people know

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Speaker 1: how special you are as a as an individual man,

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Speaker 1: because you know you you're you're you're breaking ground, my friend,

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Speaker 1: and and you're doing it with a high level of respect.

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Speaker 1: You're doing it in the money Making Conversation, and you're

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Speaker 1: a leader. And that's why I wanted to bring you

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Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation. Congratulation on Milan, congratulations on the

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel Feasta Fiction Kitchen, the book. Almost I'm gonna

568
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Speaker 1: push it as hard as I can because now that

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Speaker 1: you need my help, but I'm just gonna be a little,

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Speaker 1: a little, a little bit of help for the bigger pictures.

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Speaker 1: That cool. Jimmy, Well, you know, you know how it goes.

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00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: We will always take the help that we are giving.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate it, man. And you know actually from

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Speaker 1: Austin as well. So she's right around the corner. Oh absolutely,

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Speaker 1: your Texas girl. Well, I gotta get on the show,

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Speaker 1: my friend. I want to thank you. I want I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I know the first time we met, first time we talked.

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Speaker 1: I want you to consider to be a friend of

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Speaker 1: the money Making Conversation. You have some other projects coming

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Speaker 1: down later on this year, And if you want to

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Speaker 1: come back on the show, please come on because I

582
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Speaker 1: will not get enough of talking about you, and I

583
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: can also dig into some of that gaming area of

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Speaker 1: your career that we didn't talk about on this But

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about the book. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about that book, want to talk about the movie.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about your impact and standing up

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Speaker 1: for who you are as a person and who you

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Speaker 1: represent as a people. Keep winning, Jimmy Wong, thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on my show. Appreciate man. You two have

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