WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Friday Hour Four

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<v Speaker 1>Damn broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Strong and Jettie Gee Armstrong and Jetty Strong.

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<v Speaker 3>A friend of mine who's slightly overweight, to put it mildly,

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<v Speaker 3>went to a drug store in London and he was

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<v Speaker 3>able to get one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the fat shots. I caught the fat shots, said.

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<v Speaker 3>Jan, if you lose weight, he knows exactly who I

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>He called, He said that was interesting. He said he

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<v Speaker 2>was very concerned that I might use his name. It

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<v Speaker 2>might slip. Now he doesn't have to work, but he

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<v Speaker 2>called me. He said, Hey, a strange thing happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I just bought the drug, same company, plan, same everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was the same in New York thirteen hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>and in London.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm paying eighty eight dollars. He said, what's going on now?

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<v Speaker 3>He knew not that he's a very smart guy, he's

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<v Speaker 3>a very rich guy. His big problem is he's seriously overweight.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think the drug worked. Okay, to be

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<v Speaker 3>honest with you, but it makes him feel good anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like day three of Trump's story about his fat

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<v Speaker 4>friend his drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>He so workshops his comedy routine, you know, tries it

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<v Speaker 2>for different audiences.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to. I'm gonna get into the foreign

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<v Speaker 4>policy speech he gave yesterday. I want to get sidetracked

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<v Speaker 4>by this whole drug prescription thing. It is so complicated, though.

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<v Speaker 4>I've listened to a number of podcasts where they got

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<v Speaker 4>into the details, and it's so easily easy to be

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<v Speaker 4>misled by a lot of statistics. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the now it sounds like they're his fat friend, very fat,

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly fat. His fat friend there was paying thirteen hundred

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<v Speaker 4>dollars in New York, can pay eighty dollars in London.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to know why. That's a perfectly reasonable question, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Why am I paying so much in the United States

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<v Speaker 4>and so cheap here when we developed in the reasonable question.

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<v Speaker 4>But just in general, a lot of the stuff you

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<v Speaker 4>hear about drugs, the statistics for costs, it's for the

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<v Speaker 4>name brand, which practically none of us are actually getting.

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<v Speaker 4>We're getting the generic, so it's the tiniest percentage of that,

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<v Speaker 4>so it misleads the statistics. There's all kinds of things

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<v Speaker 4>going on in that world that make it hard to

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<v Speaker 4>nail down and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way money flows into and out of various entities, from

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<v Speaker 2>your insurance company to the pharmacies, to the drug companies

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<v Speaker 2>to the pharmacy benefit managers. An unholy group of humans

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<v Speaker 2>if there ever was. When yes, so complicated.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on eight drugs for the whooping coth right now,

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<v Speaker 4>which is crazy. But like so, I went to the

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<v Speaker 4>doctor on Saturday after spending time there, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>I picked up four new drugs, just like everybody else

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<v Speaker 4>when they go to pharmacy. I have the slightest idea

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<v Speaker 4>what the little screen was gonna say they cost, had

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<v Speaker 4>no idea. I wasn't very worried about it because it

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<v Speaker 4>probably wasn't gonna be very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like one of them was three cents, one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of them was a dollar five, one of them was

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<v Speaker 4>forty four bucks, and then the other one was like

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<v Speaker 4>four and I just pressed okay and tapped my card

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<v Speaker 4>and walked out the door.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't have any imagine if groceriy st are

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Let's see, this ham will be one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy five dollars, this bread is two cents, this

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<v Speaker 2>cheese will be a dollar one. And you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, right, and I don't have Well, it's way more

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<v Speaker 4>complicated than even that example, because like somebody may have

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<v Speaker 4>that one that cost eight cents, my insurance company might

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<v Speaker 4>have paid a five hundred dollars for and I got

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<v Speaker 4>spread around everybody else that's insured by that company for

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<v Speaker 4>some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know any idea what it actually cost the

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<v Speaker 4>insurance company. And then what are what are my options

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<v Speaker 4>anyway to not press? Okay, I will not pay forty

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<v Speaker 4>four dollars for whatever that drug is.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be much less than that and incur the

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<v Speaker 2>wrath of the already surly pharmacy employee.

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<v Speaker 4>No way, I feel bad for those people. The other day,

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<v Speaker 4>I got to the pharmacy. I've been there way too

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<v Speaker 4>much lately. I get there and some old guys walk

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<v Speaker 4>in my way and he says he said something old time.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, like railroading. Me, it's train robbery or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that. I said, what's that and he said, it's

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<v Speaker 4>train robbery around here, that's what it is. I just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of said, tell you, like the poor girl who's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, at pharmacy school, has any role in it whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 2>What's she supposed to do. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's your insurance. I work for CBS. They I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what am I what do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Such a mess?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, different topic than Trump's fat fat friend. Who people

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<v Speaker 4>who know Trump and his friends are trying to figure

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<v Speaker 4>out which fat friend that he's talking about. So Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump gave like a forty five minute sp each yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>in Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was Mark Halprin's ride up of.

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<v Speaker 4>It today, in which he said Trump's Tuesday speech, which

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<v Speaker 4>shockingly gets almost zero coverage in the American media, was

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<v Speaker 4>one for the ages, with some observers not unreasonably calling

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<v Speaker 4>it extraordinary and some supporters saying it was one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best and most important addresses by a US president

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<v Speaker 4>in many, many years. It warn't your time to watch

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<v Speaker 4>it and full if you have not to understand Trump's

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<v Speaker 4>unusual distinctive worldview. And I'm gonna read a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>from you that will portray that worldview. But I also wonder,

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<v Speaker 4>since Trump is a very interesting guy. He's primarily interested

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<v Speaker 4>in economics and that sort of stuff, although he was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty hardcore anti the Iraq war back in the day, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>how much of this speech did he sit down with

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<v Speaker 4>speech writers and explain to them what he wanted to communicate.

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<v Speaker 2>Did Jade Vance write most of this?

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<v Speaker 4>And Trump is like, sure, fine, I don't care, or

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<v Speaker 4>what I don't I don't actually know, but let me

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<v Speaker 4>read some of it. He's talking about the success of

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<v Speaker 4>all the people in that room, because he had people

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<v Speaker 4>from Saudi Arabia and Qatar and you know, those incredibly

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<v Speaker 4>rich areas of the Middle East that we see with

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<v Speaker 4>their gleaming buildings and more modern than anything we've got

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States. It's crucial for the wider world

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<v Speaker 4>to know this great transformation has not come from Western

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<v Speaker 4>interventionists or flying people in beautiful plains giving you lectures

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<v Speaker 4>on how to live and how to govern your own affairs.

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<v Speaker 4>In the end, the so called nation builders racked far

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<v Speaker 4>more nations than they built, and the interventionalists were intervening

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<v Speaker 4>in societies they did not understand themselves. No, the gleaming

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<v Speaker 4>marbles of Riad and Abu Dhabi were not created by

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<v Speaker 4>the so called nation builders, neo cons or liberal nonprofits

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<v Speaker 4>like those who spent trillions and trillions of dollars failing

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<v Speaker 4>to develop Bagdad and so many other cities.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good point. Now, this is very JD. Vanside.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I thought, solidly reasoned so far decent point.

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<v Speaker 4>Though we poured trillion I don't know about trillions, but

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<v Speaker 4>lots of money into Baghdad. It's still everything it's ever

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<v Speaker 4>been Abu Dhabi and ryodd that was ground up from

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<v Speaker 4>the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, back to every mind the zillions of dollars spent

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<v Speaker 2>in Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead, the birth of a modern Middle East has been

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<v Speaker 4>brought by the people of the region themselves, the people

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<v Speaker 4>that are right here, the people that have lived here

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<v Speaker 4>all their lives, Developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your

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<v Speaker 4>own unique visions and charting your own destinies in your

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<v Speaker 4>own way. They told you how to do it, but

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<v Speaker 4>they had no idea how to do it themselves. Peace, prosperity,

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<v Speaker 4>and progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of

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<v Speaker 4>your heritage, but rather from embracing your national traditions and

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<v Speaker 4>embracing the same heritage that you loved so dearly. You

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<v Speaker 4>achieved a modern miracle, the Arabian way. No wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>People respect you so much. I thought that was a really.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, agreed, it's really good outreach too. I think it's savvy.

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<v Speaker 2>The most gleaming modern.

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<v Speaker 4>Looked like something from the jets and cities in the

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<v Speaker 4>world did come from those local societies. Whether you hate

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<v Speaker 4>their culture or politics or the way they treat women

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, they were able to build these unbelievable cities.

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<v Speaker 4>And we've tried so hard to turn Kabul and Baghdad

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<v Speaker 4>and a whole bunch of other different places in the

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<v Speaker 4>Middle East into god, you know, anything close to Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 4>and we haven't come within a million miles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this it gets a little more complicated, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the broad outlines of your point I think are true.

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<v Speaker 2>It helps to have unlimited numbers of petro dollars. And

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<v Speaker 2>the whole modern gleaming thing is partly because there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>anything there twenty years ago. So yeah, it's it's modern

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<v Speaker 2>gleaming because what else would it be. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think a certain amount of it has to do with.

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<v Speaker 4>Taking off the restrictions of here's the way we feel

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<v Speaker 4>like you need to treat women, gay people, minorities, the disentrenchised,

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<v Speaker 4>all this different sort of stuff, all these ties that

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<v Speaker 4>come with it. As opposed to Trump saying, hey, it's

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<v Speaker 4>your society, it's your customs, it's your heritage.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're building it the way you want, and hey,

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<v Speaker 2>look at your city. And honestly, in spite of the

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<v Speaker 2>lack of success with China doing this, I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably a fair amount of Hey, let's get these guys

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<v Speaker 2>up and involved in world economics and international diplomacy and

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<v Speaker 2>have them intertwined with bunches of other countries and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>drag them into the modern era much more effectively than

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<v Speaker 2>browbeating them will. Anyway, Well, there's.

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<v Speaker 4>Zero is there any Are there any good examples of

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<v Speaker 4>us trying to build from the ground up one of

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<v Speaker 4>these uh, turn one of these citters around having it work.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly not in the Middle East. Yeah, it depends you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how much involvement over what period of time you're t

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. And interestingly enough, there were some pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>success stories in Africa, but those have gone completely to

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<v Speaker 2>hell now and you could argue that, well, that's because

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't build up the infrastructure. It's like we're watching

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<v Speaker 2>the we're doing a bit of a remodel on our house,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been super interesting to see how they dig

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<v Speaker 2>the hole for the footings and then pour the foundation

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<v Speaker 2>and all the rebar and the cinder blocks and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And we've made the point many times that

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<v Speaker 2>our system of government, our rights that we enjoy, our

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<v Speaker 2>constitution are built on the concrete and rebar and cinder

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<v Speaker 2>blocks of hundreds of years of English common law, Judeo

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<v Speaker 2>Christian principles, the rest of it. And then if you

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<v Speaker 2>try to build, at the risk of belaboring the metaphor,

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<v Speaker 2>if you try to build the house of that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing on sand, it's not going to work. And

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<v Speaker 2>so Trump is saying, y'all build your foundations the way

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<v Speaker 2>you want and then let's do business.

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<v Speaker 4>So you think JD. Vance had a hand in that

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<v Speaker 4>whole speech, both hands. It was completely It's a complete

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<v Speaker 4>rejection of George Bush's ideas of nation building, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>a rejection of democratic presidents with their coming in there

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<v Speaker 4>with we'll give you money, but here's the way we

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<v Speaker 4>think you should live. It's a complete rejection of that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still for the record, I'm super uncomfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Cutter, for instance, is trying to buy

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<v Speaker 2>influence in America hundreds of billions of dollars, perverting our colleges,

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<v Speaker 2>having them become just viper's nests of Islamism, anti Israel rhetoric,

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of it. There are huge supporters of the

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<v Speaker 2>Muslim Brotherhood on Islamist organization that would like Sharia law

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<v Speaker 2>to conquer the entire earth, and they're not spending hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of billions of dollars backing that because they don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or don't agree with it. But things, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to let them do that.

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<v Speaker 4>We can let them build their big, gleaming city, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to let them, you know, influence our colleges.

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<v Speaker 2>Well right now, well right, yeah, for instance, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen, but more on that later. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Well the argument would be, well, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>participate in enriching them so they have even more finances

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<v Speaker 2>to back terrorism. But you know, if jdve Aansw were

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<v Speaker 2>to say to me, dude, that'll go away of its own.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think on a cord. It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>stupid argument. I'm not sure I agree with it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's worth considering.

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<v Speaker 4>They play, they beat, they more than play footsy with

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<v Speaker 4>the terrorists, no doubt about it. But I don't think mbs.

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<v Speaker 4>His goal in life is not to establish a Muslim caliphate.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. No, he wants to be starving

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<v Speaker 2>poor when the oil runs out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly, Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show,

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<v Speaker 5>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to know if your marriage is heading to splitsville,

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<v Speaker 4>don't check your partner's phone, check their face, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's so many.

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<v Speaker 4>Stupid things out there, you know, the one sign that

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<v Speaker 4>he's gonna cheat or whatever the hell I mean, They're

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<v Speaker 4>just all dumb, but click bait. The subtle smirk of

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<v Speaker 4>superiority is the number one red flag for divorce, according

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<v Speaker 4>to this psychologist. And they get into why. Research found

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<v Speaker 4>that four nasty little habits, criticism, contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling

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<v Speaker 4>are the four horsemen of the apocalypse when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to dooming relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll read those four again.

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<v Speaker 4>Criticism, contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling. But contempt is the kiss

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<v Speaker 4>of death. That's the one, and you've said that for years.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the one you can't get past.

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<v Speaker 2>Done. The largest marriage experiment ever done.

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<v Speaker 4>They think of couples that you know, survive and don't

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<v Speaker 4>survive body language experts, which we've mocked for years and

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<v Speaker 4>all that sort of thing because they're usually stupid. Also

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<v Speaker 4>well on cable TV they are. Yeah, brought couples into

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<v Speaker 4>a lab. And if one member of the couple shows

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<v Speaker 4>a one sided mouth raise, which I had never heard

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<v Speaker 4>before as like a physical contempt thing. But I guess

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<v Speaker 4>we're just programmed. When we're feeling that feeling of contempt

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<v Speaker 4>for something or you know, the old pleaser get out

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<v Speaker 4>of here with that BS or whatever feeling, you raise.

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<v Speaker 2>One side of your mouth. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>If one member of the couple shows a one sided

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<v Speaker 4>mouth raise towards the other, he can tell you if

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to get divorced, because it's contempt. He could

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<v Speaker 4>predict divorce with an astonishing ninety four percent accurate fear. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the part I thought was really interesting. Fear

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<v Speaker 4>comes in a burst, and then you calm down. Happiness

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<v Speaker 4>comes and then you go back to normal. Anger comes

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<v Speaker 4>and then you calm down, but not contempt. If you

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<v Speaker 4>feel scorn or disdain for someone else, and if it's

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<v Speaker 4>not addressed, it just festers and grows and stays at

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<v Speaker 4>the same level fear, anger, and then obviously happiness you

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<v Speaker 4>get back to a normal level.

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<v Speaker 2>Contempt does not go away, you know. In a definition

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<v Speaker 2>of contempt, the feeling that a person or a thing

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<v Speaker 2>is beneath consideration, worthless or deserving scorn. Yes, coming back

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<v Speaker 2>from that.

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<v Speaker 4>I've not felt contempt, but I have been on the

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<v Speaker 4>wrong end of contempt, I think. And having read this,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, yeah, that's what was insurmountable. I mean, because

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<v Speaker 4>once you have contempt for someone you don't agree, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't think they are worth listening to on anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, this is how I feel. This is my priority care. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a tough one to get past. So look

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<v Speaker 4>out for contempt and whatever started to bring it on.

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<v Speaker 4>The point is you start to deal with it right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise it does.

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<v Speaker 4>Just grow and faster, and then it gets into a

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<v Speaker 4>situation where it might might not be reversible. They also

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<v Speaker 4>believe that many couples get stuck in an endless loop

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<v Speaker 4>of the same three arguments throughout the relationship. They just

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<v Speaker 4>don't realize it. And if you can nail down what

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<v Speaker 4>your three most common arguments are you and your partner,

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<v Speaker 4>you can solve a lot of problems. Like you get

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<v Speaker 4>into something, you say, okay, here we're in argument number

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<v Speaker 4>two again. We always argue about this, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>you know, realize that you know, you don't see eye

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<v Speaker 4>to eye in this particular thing, and how you've dealt

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<v Speaker 4>with it in the past, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a pretty good key. Yeah, Actually, distracted by the

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<v Speaker 2>details or the trivia, you realize, oh, this is argument.

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<v Speaker 4>B Yeah, yeah, and that interesting. Back to the contempt

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<v Speaker 4>thing discussed. And contempt are to a relationship with gasoline,

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<v Speaker 4>and matches are to a fire. The telltale signs are irolling, mouthcrimping,

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<v Speaker 4>and then subtle fidgeting like picking it close or cleaning

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<v Speaker 4>fingers mid conversation as signals of disdain. This person said

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<v Speaker 4>that they dubbed this move the lint picker, a behavior

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<v Speaker 4>that he says, screams contempt.

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<v Speaker 2>Louder than words ever could. Interesting. You know, it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>worth presenting the other side of the coin at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have time now, But how do you prevent

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing? Niff it in the bud, having

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<v Speaker 2>lint on your shirt, no contempt in your.

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<v Speaker 5>No arm Strong and Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 6>Why is spok at a bipartisan event to encourage Democrats

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<v Speaker 6>or Republicans to work to protect social security together, which

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<v Speaker 6>seems about as likely to happen as a reboot of

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<v Speaker 6>Fiddler on the Roof starring Kanye West. But social security

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<v Speaker 6>is number one for Joe Biden. Literally, his social Security

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<v Speaker 6>number is one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of interesting as a lead into this. Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>neverkats not being able to work together, it would seem

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<v Speaker 4>that they could work together on cutting spending based on

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<v Speaker 4>this polling that just came out from the Cato Institute.

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<v Speaker 4>CATO is a serious think tank. It's a conservative think tank.

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<v Speaker 4>They worked with you GOV on this survey, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>one of your really big, large number of people, wide reaching,

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<v Speaker 4>lots of questions sort of survey that comes out every

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<v Speaker 4>once in a while from these think tanks. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know which of these numbers is my favorite. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of them that are just mind blowingly make me happy,

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<v Speaker 4>But I can't believe because public will is a real

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<v Speaker 4>big part of getting anything done in a democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, if you got big.

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<v Speaker 4>Majorities of people that want something to happen, you should

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<v Speaker 4>be able to get it to happen and run on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's my favorite of all the spending we've done in

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<v Speaker 4>the last ten years, and we've done a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>spending in the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Five percent. Now that's a big number.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever you get eighty five percent of people in agreement

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<v Speaker 4>on something.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd think you could get political will to do something.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighty five percent say that spending is either not helped

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<v Speaker 4>them or made their lives worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty five percent. That's astounding.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't get that from taking it in through the

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<v Speaker 4>mainstream media, who feels like all government programs are wonderful

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<v Speaker 4>and doges trying to cut back on any of them

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<v Speaker 4>as a horror. Eighty five percent of Americans say all

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<v Speaker 4>that spending has either not done anything for me or

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<v Speaker 4>actually made my life worth the worse. Forty two percent

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<v Speaker 4>no impact. Forty three percent say it reduced to their

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<v Speaker 4>quality of life.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's got to be inflation, which is the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>teacher of economic principles in the history of mankind.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, ors, it's just I regularly say, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>true for me in my own personal life. I believe

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<v Speaker 4>the government stops me from doing things more than it

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<v Speaker 4>helps me.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and well, do you drive on the roads. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we we know you're an idiot. Course else I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>even gonna explain why you're moro.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, moron.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, this is a non partisan observation.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight and ten Democrats and nine and ten Republicans believe

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<v Speaker 4>that the increase in federal spending has either made their

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<v Speaker 4>lives not better or worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, this is really heartening. I know, if the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>if the Republicans can keep between the ditches and not

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<v Speaker 2>roll the car of their messaging over, it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me like the ground is super fertile for some good

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<v Speaker 2>solid conservatism in the years to come.

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<v Speaker 4>Three quarters of Americans say the government spends too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Love that, seventy six percent the government spends too much.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, it's not a partisan thing at all. Majorities

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<v Speaker 4>of Democrats fifty nine percent of Democrats think the government

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<v Speaker 4>spends too much money. Well, you'd never get that from

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<v Speaker 4>the main from your mainstream media coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the question of what do you cut and

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<v Speaker 2>how and how much? That's the devil is in the details.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do have an enormous generalized agreement that Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to cut again two thirds.

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<v Speaker 4>You get the opposite message from all of the coverage

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<v Speaker 4>of doges, for instance. So almost everyone agrees there is

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<v Speaker 4>waste frauden abuse in the federal government. The number is

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<v Speaker 4>ninety eight percent. I don't know if I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 4>a poll that reached ninety eight percent. Usually you have

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<v Speaker 4>more than two percent. They're like, no opinion, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>refuse to answer. Yeah, but would you like me to

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<v Speaker 4>stab you right now? You might get ninety eight percent

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<v Speaker 4>saying no, no opinion?

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety I'm not sure stab me as what.

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<v Speaker 4>Ninety eight percent broadly agree there is waste frauder abuse

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<v Speaker 4>in the federal government. Of course, just to say no,

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<v Speaker 4>you'd be a crazy person. About half say there is

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<v Speaker 4>a great deal. Oh yeah, percent a moderate amount.

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<v Speaker 2>If hundreds of millions of dollars isn't a great deal

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<v Speaker 2>to you, what are you elon musk or something?

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<v Speaker 4>Man? Yeah, Like I said, there's so many good numbers here,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know which ones to pick out the

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<v Speaker 4>most this one. One of the reasons this got attention

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<v Speaker 4>was some of the tax stuff yesterday. Fifty five percent

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<v Speaker 4>of Americans think their taxes are too high, which I

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<v Speaker 4>thought was really interesting, especially especially given what we were

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<v Speaker 4>talking about yesterday on Tax Day, that the top forty

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<v Speaker 4>percent or so of income levels pay all of the

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<v Speaker 4>income tax, but fifty five percent of American seat or

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<v Speaker 4>taxes are too high. Fifty five percent same number believe

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<v Speaker 4>they pay more than their fair share in taxes. That

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<v Speaker 4>obviously is interesting given the fact that half the country

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<v Speaker 4>does not pay federal taxes federal income tax.

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<v Speaker 2>Although you do have to remember, you know, a property

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<v Speaker 2>tax hammers a lot of people, sales tax, sales tax.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably what gets a lot of people. Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>How about the controversial Trump tax cuts from twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>and whether they should be extended or not. According to this,

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<v Speaker 4>eighty five percent of Americans support extending the twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>tax cuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty five percent. It's a gift of million as and

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<v Speaker 2>billion as. How is this a controversial issue? If the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream media was not what they are, could Democrats win

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<v Speaker 2>a single election as they're currently constituted. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>They need some of the best wordsmiths. Well, actually most

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<v Speaker 2>journalists are wordsmiths at all. They're parrots. But they need

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<v Speaker 2>the power of the media colossus to polish their their

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<v Speaker 2>poop if you will. I'm sorry, I just didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to use that common expression polishing a turd because it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's essentially But it's good though.

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<v Speaker 4>It's illustrative, Jack, I mean, it really makes the point

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<v Speaker 4>there's got to be a better doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be a better one, is there? It

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<v Speaker 2>got to be that doesn't include the T word. Thoroughly

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<v Speaker 2>lipsticking the pig of their policies. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>So three quarters of people agree with the statement the

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seventeen tax cuts should be made permanent because businesses

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<v Speaker 4>and families need stability of the tax code to plan

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<v Speaker 4>for the future. Three quarters agree with that. Also, three

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<v Speaker 4>quarters agree that tax cuts should be made permanent because

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<v Speaker 4>taxes are too high. Three quarters of Americans think the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump tax cuts should be made permanent because taxes are

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<v Speaker 4>too high.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, did you hear the pot about the millionaires?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>You did?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're rejecting it. I gotta get to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Then, since you brought that up, do the spending because

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<v Speaker 4>you'll that fits in perfect what you just said. A

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<v Speaker 4>majority of Americans admire the rich sixty five two thirds

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<v Speaker 4>disagree with the statement wealth should be taken from the

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<v Speaker 4>rich and given to the poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Two thirds of Americans disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, this is a different country than the media would

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<v Speaker 4>have you believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd zastly different.

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<v Speaker 4>Three out of five Americans strongly agree ninety percent strongly

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<v Speaker 4>or somewhat agree that quote there is nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 4>trying to make as much money as you can. Ninety

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<v Speaker 4>percent strongly or somewhat agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When asked specifically about billionaires, seventy one percent disagree that

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<v Speaker 4>it's immoral for society to allow people to become billionaires.

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<v Speaker 4>Seventy one percent don't agree with that statement. You hear

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<v Speaker 4>it all the time from the AOC Bernie crowd, Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 4>Warren crowd, and they put it on the news like

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<v Speaker 4>that's you know, representing half of America.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right. Yeah. And anybody who does think we should

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<v Speaker 2>make it impossible to you know, become a billionaire, you

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<v Speaker 2>just you're so dumb. You are so dumb. We just

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<v Speaker 2>need you to get out of the way, please. As

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<v Speaker 2>if you come up with a great idea that one

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<v Speaker 2>person likes and it makes you a dollar, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>If a million people like that, idea and give you

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<v Speaker 2>a dollar, that's fine. But if a billion people like

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<v Speaker 2>that idea and give you a dollar, that's wrong. Moral

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<v Speaker 2>to borrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, you're just so dumb you need to get out

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<v Speaker 4>of the way. Well, not near as many people agree

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<v Speaker 4>with that as I thought. And I've been misled myself.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, we're in the industry and taking lots

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<v Speaker 4>of media and read lots of polls, but I've been

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<v Speaker 4>misled to think there that in modern America there were

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<v Speaker 4>way more people that hate the rich and think something's

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<v Speaker 4>wrong there that it seems to be true. Two thirds

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<v Speaker 4>think wealth should not be taken from the rich and

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<v Speaker 4>given to the poor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I just didn't know. So I think part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason that our perception might be a little

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<v Speaker 2>warped is that even some of my favorite conservative journalists

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<v Speaker 2>are of the coastal elites variety, and they're nice fellas

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<v Speaker 2>and they have great principles, but I don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>know America and listen to say, absolutely do not. This

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<v Speaker 2>is going to sound awfully like a self backpadding, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think as a couple of guys from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fairly average families in the Midwest, I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>an elite anything. I've never hung out with those people.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be comfortable there. I would much rather, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a drink beer with my neighbor, Larry the truck driver.

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<v Speaker 2>I just and I think maybe we have that advantage

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<v Speaker 2>and we, all of us friends, have to trust our

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<v Speaker 2>own perceptions instead of that of the bizarro funhouse mirror

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<v Speaker 2>of the media. I know a lot of you already

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<v Speaker 2>believe that the.

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<v Speaker 4>Fact that eighty five percent of people say all that

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<v Speaker 4>government spending has done nothing for them or made their

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<v Speaker 4>lives worse is amazing something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know over half of people say my

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<v Speaker 2>taxes are too high.

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<v Speaker 4>All that fitting together, how do we not get a

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<v Speaker 4>government that spends less and keeps taxes low?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you know, part of the answer would

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<v Speaker 2>be the swamp, which includes many Republicans and Democrats who

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<v Speaker 2>have a absolutely enormous financial interest in keeping government huge.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, there are solid majorities, and I could do more

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<v Speaker 4>of the numbers, but I don't want to bore you

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<v Speaker 4>to death. But the solid majorities of people that thinks

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<v Speaker 4>it's the spending, it's not the taxing. I mean that

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<v Speaker 4>that is that is a settled issue in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the spending, not the taxing, and we need to

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<v Speaker 4>deal with it from a spending standpoint. So we're not

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<v Speaker 4>getting the government we deserve on this front. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so true. It's encouraging people believe that in the numbers

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<v Speaker 4>that they do. It is discouraging that we are fighting

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<v Speaker 4>to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Any progress in reigning in the insanity.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh right, yeah, because it's our duty, is citizens,

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess we keep trying. Sometimes it's barely uh,

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 4>you're barely able to believe that democracy works. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, look at the border issue. That's what I've

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<v Speaker 4>been saying for years. It's not controversy at all either.

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<v Speaker 4>Like nine people want to secure border, but we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>been able to do it in my entire adult.

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<v Speaker 2>Lifetime, right right. Very frustrating.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it is nice job of those of you

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<v Speaker 4>out there who agree that all this spending has made

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<v Speaker 4>your life worse of anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong and.

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<v Speaker 2>See Armstrong and Getty show. Absolutely need a moonshot style

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<v Speaker 2>effort to reform education in this country because it is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely killing us. Michael. It's a campus madness update. Good

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<v Speaker 2>and bad news editions, Good and bad.

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<v Speaker 4>News can screaming, how's madness, you idiot?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's quite scream Yeah, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>So a disembovement figures into the story somehow, so well

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<v Speaker 4>metaphorically speaking. So we'll start with some good news, really

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<v Speaker 4>interesting piece about Tufts University, which is to the left

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<v Speaker 4>of Trotsky, Boston area. But there's a professor by the

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<v Speaker 4>name of Hirsch there who teaches a class on American

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<v Speaker 4>Conservatism that is always one hundred percent enrolled and extremely popular,

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<v Speaker 4>and he a man of the sane center left, has

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 4>them read Frederick Hayek's Road to Serve them at Ininran's

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<v Speaker 4>The Nature of Government, and then has lefty writers assigned

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That says, all right, let's talk about this issue.

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<v Speaker 4>And it is a classic American education where you have

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<v Speaker 4>to understand both sides before you say which.

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<v Speaker 2>One you're on. And he is systematically steel manning conservative

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<v Speaker 2>arguments for the college kids. And the really encouraging part

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<v Speaker 2>about this is the kids love it. That's interesting. And

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<v Speaker 2>poll after pol has shown that a lot of college

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<v Speaker 2>kids resent the cancel culture and the bully culture and

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the radical culture, but they just they're afraid or you know,

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>intimidated into silence, and there's a lot more curiosity out

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<v Speaker 2>there than I think you would think from looking at

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<v Speaker 2>college camp. God, are we.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually coming out of peak that? And we'll never have

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with it again, at least in our lifetimes.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, did we just live through the pendulum swinging

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<v Speaker 4>to the far end of that nuttiness?

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<v Speaker 2>I share hope. So I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little afraid of it. Being like a sports

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<v Speaker 2>team that you know, has a very bad beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the season, then they win six in a row and

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<v Speaker 2>you think, all right, and then that is just a

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<v Speaker 2>blip and they go back to being bad. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much of a fight to go on, but

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<v Speaker 2>let me plunge on here. We can talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>at length.

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<v Speaker 4>A great piece in the Free Press about how all

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<v Speaker 4>over the country, including in some surprising places, educators are

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<v Speaker 4>covering up for their own failures wholesale.

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<v Speaker 2>We should have the best education system in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>they write, we should have an education system that reflects

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<v Speaker 2>us being a superpower. But there's no one with a

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<v Speaker 2>straight face who can say that the United States has

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<v Speaker 2>a world class education system. And that's from a higher

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<v Speaker 2>up in the New Jersey Department of Education now retired,

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<v Speaker 2>but they go through place after place where because they

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<v Speaker 2>are failing to meet any standard, they are systematically changing

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<v Speaker 2>the standards, including this shock to me. In twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma schools seemed to perform a miracle. They went from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four percent proficiency in reading to forty seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>in two years. You see number doubling the previous figure.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that number in a year. You know something

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<v Speaker 2>funky happen? Yeah? Yeah, Indeed, if it sounds too good

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<v Speaker 2>to be true, that's because it was. In Last year,

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma lowered its cut scores, the score a student needs

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<v Speaker 2>to hit on a test to be considered proficient. Unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 2>God's good hearts law. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Once, once a measure becomes a goal, it ceases to

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<v Speaker 4>be a good measure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Trend is also happening in New York State. After

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<v Speaker 2>not a single eighth grader in the upstate city of

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<v Speaker 2>Schenectady tested proficient in math in twenty twenty two, state

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 2>officials lowered the scores. The following year, Wisconsin lowered cut

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<v Speaker 2>scores last year, Illinois is about to lower its scores.

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<v Speaker 2>Et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 5>We did it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of blue states, but Oklahoma shocked me.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've done it in California a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it speaks as much to the nature of bureaucracy

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<v Speaker 4>as liberalism. Well, it's a good hearts law. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>that seems to be a law no matter what you

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<v Speaker 4>no matter your politics, you come up with a goal

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<v Speaker 4>or you measure something. Then you come up with a goal,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you just fudge to meet the goal, and

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<v Speaker 4>so the measure doesn't work anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's it happens, over and over again.

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<v Speaker 4>I can come up with one hundred examples off the

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<v Speaker 4>top of my head, because I think it's a fascinating

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<v Speaker 4>aspect of the way the human brain works. But how

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<v Speaker 4>are there not People raise their hands, say, we can't

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<v Speaker 4>be lowering the standards.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to raise the quality shield tradition. Yeah, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>lift up the children, don't drop the standards. That'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a good slogan. Veering back to good news, The Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Education on Friday, Cancer which still exists, apparently canceled

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen million dollars in federal grants that were used to

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<v Speaker 2>fund diversity programs at three universities in California, State, La,

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia Commonwealth, and University of Saint Thomas and Minnesota all

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<v Speaker 2>had received giant, multimillion dollar grants, part of a billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a billion that the Biden Education Department spent on

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<v Speaker 2>diversity programs in America's schools, nearly half of which went

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<v Speaker 2>to grants for race based hiring. That is, at least

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<v Speaker 2>temporarily on the way out. Now back to bad news.

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<v Speaker 2>Two stories here that are adjoined at the hip Brown

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<v Speaker 2>University Medical School that's one of your elite IVY leaguers.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, elite. I almost vomit when I say

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<v Speaker 2>that about these universities. But they now give diversity, equity

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<v Speaker 2>and inclusion more weight than excellent clinical skills in its

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>promotion criteria for faculty, raising questions duh about the equality

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<v Speaker 2>of teaching in patient care at the elite medical school

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>and underscoring how deeply deis penetrated medical education. Again, when

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 2>they decide what faculty to promote, they now give DEI

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<v Speaker 2>more weight than excellent clinical skills. I saw that over

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<v Speaker 2>the week in medicine. I meant to mention on the

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>air that is absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking at the actual paperwork, the criteria, and

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<v Speaker 4>really your plan for how you're answering the question of

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<v Speaker 4>how you're going to get diversity, equity and inclusion into

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<v Speaker 4>your your medical practice is more important than your actual skills,

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<v Speaker 4>right that is? How or as important is that even possible?

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show or Jack your Joe podcasts

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