1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. I'm not gonna stop trying to protect our 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: power grid. I will keep these programs going until we 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: get this grid protected. And Dr Peter Pry will not 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: stop either. Executive Director of the Task Force on National 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: and Homeland Security, a Congressional advisory board dedicated to achieving 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: protection of the United States from an electromagnetic pulse e 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: m P are cyber attack, mass destruction, terrorism, a threat 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: from the sun, and other threats to civilian critical infrastructures. 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: And here's Dr Peter Pry back on Coast to coast. Peter, 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: We're not giving up, but thank you for what you do. No, 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: we're not giving up. The motto of the e MP 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Commission and of the e MP Task Force is, uh, 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: from Winston Churchill's admission to never, never, never give up. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: I can picture him saying that with a cigar in 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: his mouth, you know that, just like that perfect. Anyways, Peter, 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: what's new with you? Well, Uh, the e m P 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Commission has been h was closed in September, you know, 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: by by the deep state, um the and that is 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: not a good thing. In the same month that North 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: Korea announced that its successful hydrogen from bomb test was 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: partially to be prepared to make a super powerful e 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: MP attack against the United States, and then a couple 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: of days after that, they released a technical report that 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: accurately describes super EMP weapon. So it's only in Washington 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: could be so stupid as to make a decision to 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: close down the e MP Commission, just when the North 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: Koreans have come out of the closet and declared that 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: an MP attack is indeed on their agenda. I read 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: a poster quote and Einstein recently that said the that 31 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: stupidity and the difference between stupidity and genius is that 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: there are limits the genius there sure is now. Peter, 33 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: in your opinion, are we going to win this battle 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: or not to get this grid protected? If you've asked 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: me that question in July, was highly confident we were 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: going to win win this struggle, you know, because you 37 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: see right around that the White House was solidly in 38 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: our corner. I think the President is still solidly in 39 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: our corner because his his new national security strategy. That's 40 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: something else that's uh, that's new and a big positive development. 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Commits for the first time to protect the electric grid 42 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: and other critical infrastructures from from E M P. And 43 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: that was part of the Republican Party platform on which 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: he was elected. The problem is is that just like 45 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: with a lot of the policies that you know, President 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: Trump has excellent instincts and uh, you know, the his 47 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: staff won't let the Trump and the deep States that 48 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: surround him is actively undermining his efforts to protect the country. Uh. 49 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: You know, I know this for a fact from firsthand 50 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: experience over the past year having served. You know, the 51 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: MP Commission was around during the last years of the 52 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: last year of the Obama administration, the first year of 53 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. And you know, people, we call it 54 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, Okay, but there's really only a thin 55 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: veneer of Trump appointees at the very top of the government. 56 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: You know. Beneath them are thousands of Obama holdovers and 57 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: permanent bureaucrats who drank the kool aid during the Obama 58 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: administration who don't agree with the President and m and 59 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: since they haven't been fired yet, they have been emboldened 60 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: to work against him, including on EMP protection. Uh. Dr 61 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Graham and I the chairman of the MP Commission Roe 62 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: a recent articles just published Tuesday where we talk about 63 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: some examples about how the deep state is working against 64 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: the President's goal of getting the electric grid protected from 65 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: from e MP. Peter, who would not want to protect 66 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: the grid? I don't get it. Well, the electric power industry, 67 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: for one, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation, which represents 68 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: the three thousand electric utilities in this country, Uh, you know, 69 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: doesn't want the federal government inspecting the grid, and they 70 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: don't want to spend any money to protect the grid, 71 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: even if they're allowed to raise rates to do it. 72 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: They're like, um, or even if we paid for it 73 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: out of taxpayers money, or if we paid for it 74 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: from the Department of Defense. I actually asked Jerry Cawley, 75 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't who was the president and CEO of the 76 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: North American Electric Reliability Corporation? Uh, you know, point blank? 77 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: I said, well, look, you know, if the Department of 78 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Defense paid to protect the grid, would you guys go 79 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: for that? And he said no. Basically, the electric power 80 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: grid is the last critical infrastructure that regulates itself. It's 81 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: like in a nineteenth century regulatory environment, and they don't 82 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: want that to change. They're afraid that if they don't 83 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: know how to protect the grid at the Department of 84 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: Defense or or contractors who work for the Department of 85 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: Defense would have to do it for them, and then 86 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: there would be inspections because you've got to inspect on 87 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: a yearly basis to make sure it's done right. And 88 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: they don't want anybody looking over their shoulder. And they're 89 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: not reluctant about whining, neither that claim that they are 90 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: experts to they turn out junk science. The minions of 91 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: the electric power industry, like the Electric Power Research Institute, 92 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, churn out junk science studies claiming the MP 93 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: threat is not so bad and and uh, you know, 94 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: and and uh and that they would be prepared to 95 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: deal with it, which is totally bogus and untrue. So 96 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: they don't. They're not reluctant. They're not reluctant to lie 97 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the way the cigarette industry. You know, would you turn 98 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: to the cigarette industry back in the sixties for expertise 99 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: on lung cancer and of course not, so, you know, 100 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: the electric power industry is not expert on the MP 101 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: and or on cyber warfare, or on physical sabotage against 102 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: the against the grid. They're they're one group. There's another 103 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: group though, that's that's just as bad, you know, within 104 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: the government, and that's these Obama holdovers that exists in 105 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security 106 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: who are allergic to anything nuclear. I mean, you may 107 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: recall that the Bomb administration had the goal of a 108 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: world without nuclear weapons, and they didn't want to talk 109 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: about any nuclear threats that could be really serious because 110 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: it would it would it would imply that that there 111 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: is utility for third world countries, for countries like North Korea, 112 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: Iran to get the bomb, because they only need one 113 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: to do an e emp attack. And that goes completely 114 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: against the goal of trying to convince the world that, oh, 115 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons are basically useless. You can't do anything with them. Uh, 116 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: And therefore, you know, let us have a come by 117 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: a moment and get rid of these terrible things. And 118 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: holding the Obama administration believed that it also it also 119 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: worked against it, but they were afraid it would undermine 120 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: their Iran nuclear deal, you know, because one of their 121 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: arguments was, will look, even though Iran is close to 122 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: the bomb, you know, they would they would only have 123 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: a few bombs and uh, you know, we would be 124 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: able to cope with that. Well, e MP changes all 125 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: of that, and it makes it much more dangerous to 126 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: make any mistake about even run having one nuclear weapons. 127 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: So if they made any attempt to protect the grid, 128 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: it would be their admission that they would be concerned 129 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: that a nuke could do some of this, and I 130 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: guess they didn't want the world to see that concern. 131 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: That's crazy. And then and then you have other people 132 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: in the Department of Defense who are not necessarily pro Obama, okay, 133 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: but they see the mission the Department of Defense as 134 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: being to fight overseas contingencies, you know, not what the 135 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: Constitution says to provide for the common defense. The Department 136 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: of Defense sees that is the Department of Homeland Securities job. 137 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: And they're afraid that if they got roped into helping 138 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: industry protect the grid, the Defense Department defense resources would 139 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: start being spent on helping defend protect the grid. And 140 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: they want to spend those moneys on tanks and fighter 141 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: aircraft and ammunation. Even if it doesn't cost that much. 142 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: It would set a precedent, you know, they would end 143 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: up doing things that they think belonged to the Department 144 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security. Well before there was a Department of 145 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Homeland Security, you know, it was the job of the 146 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: Department of Defense to provide for civil defense. We had 147 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: a civil defense program in this country and have a 148 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: constitutional obligation to protect the American people. You have to 149 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: provide for the common defense. Uh, you know, not not 150 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: just to go and kill. The American people would much 151 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: rather be protected, I'm sure, than be avenged. You know. 152 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: In effect, their their contingency plans to wage these foreign 153 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: wars are more about deterring adversaries by the threat of 154 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: destroying them, you know, not protecting the American people except 155 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: for the except for the part that has to do 156 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: with national national missile defense. So these are some of 157 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: the reasons these are hosts. And then you have another 158 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: problem in Washington, just the intellectual corruption. Because e MP 159 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: is a relatively new threat. I mean, it was deeply 160 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: classified until the e MP Commission started delivering its reports. 161 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: And even though I and the e MP Commission have 162 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: been out there talking about this now since two thousand 163 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: eight in the open, they're still It's just amazing how 164 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: how Washington bureaucrats are able to not learn new things 165 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: and not not learn new things, not read the MP 166 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Commission reports, not listen to your program on the radio 167 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: to how it gets past them. And they've never heard 168 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: of it. And your your typical Washington berecrat, even in 169 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: the defense all right area, believes that he is there 170 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: and he has this permanent job because he's the smartest 171 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: guy in the room all the time. And if he 172 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: never heard of the MP, or maybe if he heard 173 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: of it but doesn't understand it very well, then it 174 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: just can't be that important. Listen to more Coast to 175 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: Coast AM every weeknight at one a m. Eastern and 176 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: go to Coast to Coast am dot com for more