1 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: What is going on? 2 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Happy Friday, everyone, Emily Badi here, you know the drill. 3 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: It's five minute Friday, and oh man, what a Friday 4 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: it is. 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: I am currently on a beach. 6 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Okay, well, depending on when you're listening to this, maybe 7 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm not on the beach just yet. But I am 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: so so happy to just get some sunshine unplugged for 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: the weekend and have some me time. I want to 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: talk to you today about something I overheard on the 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: street which actually goes hand in hand a little bit 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: with these sentiments I'm going to share in my answer 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: to this week's listener question. So I was walking in 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Midtown earlier this afternoon, and I was in front of 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: two men I would say, if I had to guess, 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: probably about my age, both of them wearing business suits, 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: and they're talking about going after a new opportunity in 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: the office. One of them is up for a promotion. 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: Was asking the other man if he should follow up 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: or how soon he should follow up after his interview, 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: and the man said, listen, if you are not going 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: after an opportunity or after the thing that you want, 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: then someone else is going to be doing it first. 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Someone else is going to be taking that initiative and 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: going for it. So there's absolutely no reason to wait. 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: And I remember when I was young in my career, 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: there were how do I say this, like just so 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: many non written rules about etiquette and how long you 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: should be at a certain job and the rules surrounding 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: getting a promotion and what that would look like, etc. 31 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Etc. 32 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: And I'm here to tell you that you make the rules, period. 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: Just like this guy said, if there's something that you 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: want and the only person stopping you from going after 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: that thing is you, then there's an issue there. So 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: whether it is within your personal life, within your professional life, 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: I ask you this week, what is it that you're 38 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: waiting for? Are you waiting to go after a certain opportunity, 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: a certain relationship? 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Ask someone on a date. 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Because you feel as though there are a set of 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: protocols or a set of rules that you're following. 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: Who's making the rules? 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: It's something to evaluate. It's in our work worth doing. 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: To ask yourself what is it that's holding me back? 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: Don't make yourself follow someone else's timeline, because when you 47 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: do that, you are the only person that you are 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: doing a disservice too. Remember that each of us no 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: matter who we are, where we are, what we look like, 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: our background or sexual orientation. We all have so much 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: to offer this world, right and there's only one you, 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: So stand on your own two feet and go after 53 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: whatever it is that you're after. My question for you 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: this week, let's do a little exercise. Okay, what do 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: you bring to the table? And I mean that in 56 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: two different ways. What do you bring to the table 57 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: in terms of what are the attributes and the qualities 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: that you have that make you proud of you? Okay, 59 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: what are the attributes that you possess that make you 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: proud of you, things that you love about yourself? And 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: also why don't you get a little bit honest about 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: what else is going on in your life? Is there 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: a burden on your shoulders right now? And that's what 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: you're bringing to the table. Be upfront about what's happening 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: for you, and having that awareness will enable you to 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: show up more yourself in whatever situation that you're in 67 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: moving forward. And now they're related a listener question. 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: Hey, Emily Marie here, as someone who is just affected 69 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: by the mass of layoffs some big tech how do 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: I get over the hurdle of being embarrassed. How do 71 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: I not fall ill with impostor syndrome analyzing what I 72 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: did wrong or why me? And finally, how do I 73 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: cheer and support my ex coworkers who are in the 74 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: same boat without also fighting against them for a new role. 75 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: I really want to support them, but I also am 76 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: really stressed about my family's future. Thank you so much. 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: Hey, Marie. 78 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: Firstly, thank you for coming to me for advice on this. 79 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: I've been there for those of you that aren't familiar 80 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: with my story. Actually, part of the reason I'm behind 81 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: the mic right now is because I've been there. I 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: am a career journalist. I worked in house for three 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: different big companies before going out on this entrepreneurial journey 84 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: on my own, and the catalyst for doing that was 85 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: because of my second layoff when Self magazine shuddered, and 86 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: I remember feeling so many of the things that you 87 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: are expressing. I cannot reiterate this enough in this moment. 88 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: It is so understandable how you feel right now period. 89 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: I want you to know that you are not alone. 90 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: I've got some stats for you. In twenty twenty one alone, 91 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: there were seventeen million layoffs. Also, of note, forty percent 92 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: of Americans have been laid off or terminated from a 93 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: job at least once. At least once, so that means 94 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: many more than once myself, raising hand included. So I 95 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: hope that those statistics enable you to feel a little 96 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: less embarrassed, knowing that you are certainly not the only 97 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: person who has had to deal with this, especially with 98 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: what we're going through in today's economy. One tool that 99 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: I would encourage you to use as you navigate this 100 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: difficult time is to name your feelings right because it 101 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: is so easy for us to blame ourselves and ruminate 102 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: on the things that we could have done differently. But 103 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: the fact is that when we do that, we're not 104 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: really being productive. So in order to make the most 105 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: of your energy to maximize your output, I would encourage 106 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: you to sit down and write out how you feel, 107 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: get really specific, the nitty gritty, the little words, because 108 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: that is going to help you process the grief that 109 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: you're experiencing and move forward. Now, when it comes to 110 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: experiencing and poster syndrome, what I will say here is 111 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: that unless you believe something to be true, then it 112 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: won't be true. So even though there can be so 113 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: many people that believe in you, that see your big potential. 114 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: If you don't walk into a room and garner that 115 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: same feeling with the people that you meet, you don't 116 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: walk into a room and act as if you are 117 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: the best thing that you are, your biggest type woman, 118 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: You're welcome, then that's going to set you back. So 119 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: the question is how do I shove imposter syndrome. 120 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: To the side. 121 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: I would encourage you to start by naming your strengths 122 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: and if during that exercise you have difficulty, then I 123 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: would suggest you reach out to former employees, former bosses, 124 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: friends to articulate your strengths. This will help you bring 125 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 2: all of the things that you're good at, your capabilities 126 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: into focus. So some specific questions that you can ask 127 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: what made me a great coworker? Specifically what strengths did 128 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: you notice? And if there was a certain time that 129 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: you were aware that I was really in my element, 130 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: what was going on? 131 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: What was I doing at my quote unquote best. 132 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: Not only are these questions asking others to reflect on 133 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: your strengths an opportunity for you to get a little 134 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: boost of confidence, but then with that newfound confidence, you 135 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: can take a step back and reflect and recognize that 136 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: even amidst this transitional moment, you still have so much 137 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: to bring to the table. And then the last part 138 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: of this question, you asked about how you can cheer 139 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: on ex coworkers when you may be going up for 140 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: the same jobs. Listen, I get it. I'm an empathetic person. 141 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm always trying to help other people out, to lift 142 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: other people up. You can be firm and kind, and 143 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: what I mean by that is you need to put 144 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: yourself first. You articulated that you have a family that 145 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: you are concerned about. Even when I was navigating this 146 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: as a single woman, I had me to take care of, right, 147 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: So yes, it's stressed. You have to put yourself first 148 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: and in doing that, go after the opportunities that you 149 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: are interested in. It is unspoken that there will be 150 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: people that you know going up for the same opportunities 151 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: that you are after. And with that said, that doesn't 152 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: mean that you have any less of a chance. So 153 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: start with you start by being your own hype man. 154 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: Prioritize your own next steps, and put yourself first. Because 155 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: we know this and I talk about it all the 156 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: time on the show, that in order to show up 157 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: for others, including your family, including your friends, including your 158 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: old coworkers that you do care about. You've got to 159 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: put your oxygen mask on first, and so I encourage 160 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: you moving forward to try and shift your perspective. Me 161 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: my layoff, it was, without a doubt, one of the 162 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: best things to happen in my career. And I know 163 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: that it does not feel that way right now. Trust me, 164 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: it didn't feel that way for me back then. But 165 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: I do not know a single person who has been 166 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: let go from a job and is not better for 167 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: it now. Looking back on that time, I was forced 168 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: to get uncomfortable, I was forced to flex new muscles, 169 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: I was forced to try new things, and for that 170 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: I am eternally better for it. 171 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: That's it. I hope this advice helps. I encourage you. 172 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: If you have questions about job, work, life, personal, whatever 173 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: it is, I want to answer them here on the show. 174 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: So do me a solid and send me a voice message. 175 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: The link to do that, the link to ask me 176 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: a question is in the show notes. And if for 177 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: some reason that feels like it might not be working 178 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: for you, you can always always send a voice recording 179 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: from your phone over to us at Hello at hurdle 180 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: dot us. 181 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: That's it for now. 182 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: Make sure you're following along over on Socialists at Hurdle Podcast. 183 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: I am over at Emily a Body Another hurdle conquered. 184 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time. 185 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: Through all