WEBVTT - 103: Hell Hath No Fury 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.720 Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondoland Audio in 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:35.959 partnership with Iheartradiot Katie. We're talking about how Garmo watched 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.680 episode one oh three Hell Half No Fury twice yesterday, 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.640 once today, and it's on in the background currently as 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:47.360 we are recording this podcast. Correct. Yes, when I've watched 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.159 this episode now a few times, I'm just like this sucks, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.080 Like this is so awful. I don't want to explore 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:57.840 these feelings. I feel this like massive weight of responsibility 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.120 where it's like, Okay, if I'm going to breed and 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.520 contribute a human being to our fucked up society, the 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:08.240 least I can do is hope that they only add 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.440 goodness and don't take it away. And right, I mean 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.280 my mom sort of. I mean, my brother was like, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.119 is the best fucking dude. I know, you know him, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.120 he's the best, but like he was such a fucked 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.360 up teenager, Like he did such fucked up shit. He 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.200 did not fucking rape a girl, thank you God, but 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:27.800 like he definitely fucking soul fucking marijuana and did dumb shit, 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.600 you know what I mean. My mom was like at 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.480 the end of her rod with him, and look how 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.840 well he turned out. Yeah, he did turn out. Well. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.200 I feel like, did your mom ever think that, Like 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.680 your mom had three boys. Oh yeah. Plus we grew up, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.520 you know, in the eighties in New York City, where 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.800 when in Washington Heights, when the city was just like 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.800 a ball of crime, a snow globe of crime. It 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.000 was just the worst, you know, so I can imagine. 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.640 But they also, you know, they had really no you know, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.200 my we were kind of latchkey kids, and they they 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.200 had to work twenty four to seven, and they just 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.320 had to trust that they you know, instilled the right 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.040 sort of values, you know, thing values and all of 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.080 that in us and just sort of trust and let 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.959 us go and and you know, luckily we're somewhat okay. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.000 One of my favorite facts about Giermo Diaz growing up 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.799 in such a fucking rough time and rough neighborhood. Tell 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.120 me if this is wrong. This is what it is 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.160 in my head every time there's a close up of 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.640 the back of Huck's head. Oh yeah, I love it 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:33.239 so much because you have this scar back there, because 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.800 didn't you get hit with a gun? Yeah, I can't 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.280 believe you remember that. Oh I think of it every 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.240 time I see the back every and since I've been 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.280 watching all these episodes, and they always you're always hacking 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.920 hawk and they're always zooming in on the back of 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.880 their head. Always see that little bump on the back 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.880 of your head. Oh my god. Yes, I got mugged 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.880 in front of my building in Washington Heights at like 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.720 eleven o'clock at night, at gunpoint. They held the gun 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.160 up to my head and we're like, give me. I 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.520 had like a flight jacket and like a ring, like 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.440 this cheap ring, and they took my jacket in the 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.280 ring and then they told me to turn around, and 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.639 I was like, oh shit, this is it? Like die? 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.639 Oh of course, But somehow, you know how they say 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.480 you get super like calm in those in those moments 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.520 of like complete you know, where where you would you 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.840 would assume that you'd be really scared and it would 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.080 just be full on fear. I got really zen and 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.120 really calm and just turned around and then he just 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.639 ended up hitting me with the gun in the back 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.760 of the head. And that's what that what that scar is. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.560 I can't believe you remember that. Did you have to 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.280 get stitches? No? I just went upstairs and my head 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.480 was bleeding and my mother was like, oh shit and 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.320 put like a towel and some ice, Like they didn't 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.720 even take me to the hospital. But you know, it 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.080 was this, It was a small it was a you know, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:55.680 a pretty small. I was like seventeen, No fucking where yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.120 that is crazy. And where do you fall in line 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.600 of the brothers? I'm the youngest. Yeah, so I have 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.000 two older brothers. Yeah, that's why we work so well together, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.400 by the way, is because I have this theory that 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.800 every couple that works out really well, they're not the 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.200 same in birth order. So I'm the oldest and you're 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.719 in the Maybe I'm the oldest and Adams the baby 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.119 in his family like I. Just if you are around 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.240 and ask people who are in loving relationships like me 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:29.160 and Guillermo Diaz, it's because I'm the older and you're 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.200 the baby. Not that you not that we form that 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.800 that you're necessarily act like the youngest around me or 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:40.280 not because you're no, no, no, no no, yeah, shut up. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:45.200 Um yeah no. I love that theory. Yeah, that's that's interesting. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.599 That makes sense. I mean it makes sense. Um, let's 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.520 let's do this this stuff. And yeah, we should like 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.320 do this stuff. Gee, we should like fucking say what's 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.640 on this fucking paper? And on this fucking paper it 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.640 says we're talking about episode one of three, which was 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.080 titled Hell Hath No Fury. It aired on April nineteenth 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.479 of twenty twelve. It was written by Matt Byrne, which 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.360 we will circle back on this, and it was directed 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:15.400 by Alice Brown. So much to say about both of these, ge, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:19.440 Do you want to give me the synopsis? In Scandal Pace? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.400 here we go. Millionaire CEO Sandra Harding contracts OPA with 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:30.480 helping her I went over this so many times before 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:34.800 we started. Of course, now I'm like our scandal Pace 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.680 might be out of practice. But as we continue this, okay, yeah, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.800 here we go. Millionaire CEO Sandra Harding contracts OPA with 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.640 helping on her son Travis's trial for rape. Amanda Tanner's 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.560 only demand is a five minute meeting with the President, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.360 and the White House gets hit with another scandal and 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.720 audio sex tape to Cyrus believes to be sent from 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.560 Olivia as blackmail. And we have guest starring Joe with 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.280 williams Is Sandra Harding, Curtis Armstrong as attorney called Michael 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.000 Cassidy is Travis Harding. Mina Batty is assistant US attorney 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.120 Jane Powell. Jericka Hinton as Hannah, the doctor who delivers 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.600 this amazing speech to Harrison. By the way, Jericka Hinton 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.760 plays Stephanie Edwards and Grays and Addie. We're going to 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:13.480 get to all of that. Yes, this episode, I think 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.760 that the guest stars between Joebeth Williams and Michael Cassidy 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:22.120 were fucking incredible. Yes, yes, yes, this is this episode. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.800 I watched it a bunch, but it was also like 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.560 every time I got something new, I got something new 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.719 out of it. But yeah, and I was so star 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:35.120 struck with these guest stars because joe Beth Williams was 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:41.160 the mother in Poultergeist and Poultergeist too. She played Diane 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:45.080 Freeling and she is freaking as everyone knows. I'm a 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.719 huge horror film fan, and so being around freaking out 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.680 on set, I don't know, Oh my god, Yes, I 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.240 think I was maybe honestly with Joe Beth. I knew 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:57.960 she was doing the episode, and I think I saw 0:06:57.960 --> 0:06:59.880 her like by the trailers, but I don't think we 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.040 had many scenes together. She might have been like in 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.560 the office when you know, hucking Quinn and those guys 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.040 were there, so I think I was kind of around here, 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.520 but I didn't really interact with her on the show. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.600 But also, yeah, freaking amazing and um and also our 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:18.520 other guest star, attorney Cole Yes, yes, Booger from Revenge 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.520 of the Nerds, Man, guys Booger for Revenge of the 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:27.160 fucking Nerds. I'm rewatching this episode last night for today 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.560 and Adam's like, that's Booger, and I'm like, oh my god, yeah, 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.000 that is Booger. If you're an eighties kid like like 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.840 I am, and you know, Katie's younger than I, but 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.000 you remember Revenge of the Nerds, like you right, and 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.640 Booger like he was. Of course, this is such a 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.160 testament to Linda Lowe, are casting director who's married to 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.400 Jeff Perry who played Cyrus. Like yes, yes, God, the 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.960 guest stars were so fucking great on this show. And honestly, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.040 the guest stars have to carry oh yeah, the a 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.520 story like they have a lot of times, these guest 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.080 stars and g and I, you know, God, we've been 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.720 around in this biz and like we've had to be 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.840 like the lead guest stars on episodics before, Like, I know, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.360 you've done all the fucking law and orders. I've done 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.720 all the wouted traces and cold cases and all that. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:18.000 It is a tough job. I mean, you're working every 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.680 day for nine days. You are crying, you are getting rapes, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.800 you are getting abducted, you are you're talking a ghost. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.640 You are a ghost. Remember you want ghost whisper I was. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.640 And also you're coming into this world of actors that 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.319 you know, have been doing this show for her however 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.960 many seasons. Yeah, so you're kind of, you know, you 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.400 feel like a fish out of water sort of in 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.600 the beginning, and then and then you you know, you 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.120 get your traction and then it flows and then it 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.680 gets easier. But you're just coming into this world where 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.400 everyone knows each other. It's like a well oiled machine 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.120 the show usually, and so you just want to go 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.760 in and like impress. So it's a tough job. I 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.360 remember always we were always so kind to our guest stars. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.240 I remember always saying to them, welcome, We're so excited 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.960 you're here, Like we were all all so so kind 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.680 because I think of the fact that we all have 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.240 done so many guest star Roles, right, so we know 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.160 how it is to feel when someone is not sort 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.880 of inviting or warm to you. On said and I 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.880 think this leans into Shanda having like that no asshole policy. Yes, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.120 she had a no asshole policy where when she hired 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.880 the series regulars of the show, she supposedly called our 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.240 previous X bosses to sort of vouch for us and 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.800 make sure that we weren't dicks. But yes, a lot 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.480 of us also fucking come from theater and our major 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.839 ensemble people. So when the guest star is coming in 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.000 and has to do all this heavy lifting and literally 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.000 sit at the OPA conference table sobbing their eyes out 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.560 or whatever, I felt like we were all like an 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.680 talkt's Candace. All of a sudden, the directors were like, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.080 you got to pick it up, pick up the page. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.760 Oh god, could you imagine if I was guest starring 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.840 on our show, I would have been fhitting bricks and 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.000 you were saying, how I've always been a big prepare 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.600 I think I was? But then do you remember towards 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.960 the end of like the series, we'd all roll up 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.000 to OPA and be like, what's like, have you looked 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:03.920 at the scene? And we'd be like I don't know. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.160 I guess let's look at it, let's let's read it. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.080 We like, you know, and they were setting up like 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.080 I know. But what's so fucking crazy about scandal and 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.280 episodic TV, I think in general is that, like your 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.440 brain is a muscle, so like if you do ten 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.679 crunches a day, in a few weeks, you can do 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.120 one hundred or whatever. But it's the same with fucking 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.400 memorizing lines. It's like if you do it for eight 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.920 years or however long we were doing it, we would 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.960 got so good at the end that it actually made 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:33.560 no sense to sit at home and sort of do 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.120 it in a van exactly. We all started to realize 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.719 that we could just go go over I mean, of 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.240 course we'd look at it at home and read the 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.240 script and all of that, of course, but then we 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.199 didn't need as much time preparing now to learn the lines. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.160 We'd go over it a few times and then haven't 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.520 memorized like completely, so we would always come on to 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.400 set and like run. We knew that the best way 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.080 to learn it was actually with each other, yes, and 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.280 we would drill it on like lighting setups or set 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.800 changes in the hair and makeup trailer. But you were 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:09.480 really good at like even big fucking chunks, you and 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.679 Josh Molina, Like I think, I know you say you've 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.040 got a stoner brain, and you do, and I love 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.120 it so much, But like you were really good at 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.600 memorizing a lot of shit. I had like pages of 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.200 a monologue like that. I definitely like went over it 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.640 over and over and over the night before because that 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.680 you can't mess around with that. Do you've run lines 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.240 while you're like pacing or are you just like sitting 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.080 in your secret room? Honestly, Mikey would run lines with me, 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.840 my partner, he would he would run lines with me, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.240 and I would do it in front of him and 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.160 just do it over and over and over and then 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.320 you know, and then I you know, keep drilling it 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.079 until I got it in my brain. But yeah, if 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.400 we had long monologues like that, especially that we had 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.760 to talk so fast, you know, you got to make 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.120 sure you're on point. Yes, one more thing on this 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.240 and then we're getting to the official shit of episode 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.080 one or three. But I know we talked about last 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.560 episode scandal pace. It was such a thing. But like also, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.880 and do you remember this, gee, like Shanda at the 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.360 very beginning of the show said how you say is 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.800 up to you, but what you say is up to me. Yes. Yes, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.719 So we could never say and of or a the 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.240 or like improv a little bit like I've been on 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.520 other jobs since Scandal where it's like, you know, you 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.800 just like add a button or whatever the fuck, And 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:28.840 I'm like, we never went off script? Did it? In 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.760 the very beginnings. I think it was Henry ian Qusake 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.480 who emailed Sea was like can I say this instead? 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.840 And she was like no, or I don't know what 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.640 she said, but it was like it was like a hard, cold, 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.640 like hell no, like say what I wrote. When we 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.679 have him on, we have to ask him. But I 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.520 remember him having a really fucking hard time because he 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.439 was coming off of like eight years on Lost, and 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.760 I remember having conversations with him the first season of 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.760 Scandal where he was like, you don't even know, like 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.480 we would show up in the fucking woods of Hawaii 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.840 shooting Lost and like no one knew their lines. It 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.360 wasn't it wasn't about that, Like it was just about 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.560 like breathing heavy and running and like being afraid and 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.960 like sort of like saying some shit that kind of 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.400 didn't make sense anyway because Lost wasn't about like exact 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.320 plot and character like, so he was coming into something 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.360 being like, wait, I have to like say exactly, Yeah, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.000 exactly was on the page. But what's so brilliant about 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.880 Shanda and the Scandal writers was if you missed an 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.800 of or throw in an extra th or whatever or uh, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.600 it's like messing up. It's like poetry, like saying the words. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.520 It's written so well. And we always talked about how 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.640 if something's written really well, then it's really easy to 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.640 memorize and to say, so if if you added something 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.840 or took something out, it didn't flow as well. Absolutely, 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.680 I've never had an easier time memorizing than Scandal. Same. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.720 So the beginning of this episode, I felt like this 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.440 is so fucking cool, like we're saying cool again, and 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.720 it's because it's going in to get the little shitty, 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.520 spoiled piece of shit kid played by Michael Cassidy, who's 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.000 just bone this like hot blonde chick. They're all fucking hungover. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:14.840 He's late to his court trial. Olivia comes in, wakey, wakey, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.320 you know, and the music is playing and she sort 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.880 of convinces the girl he was sleeping with to walk 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.640 out of the door with Harrison hiding, thinking that it's 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.520 you know, Michael Cassidy's role, Travis. Yeah, she sneaks him 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:32.120 out the back, and Harrison is so cool. He's so cool, 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.840 He's always so cool. And and what stuck out in 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.120 this episode two is the I mean, of course there's 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.640 music in the music is amazing in every episode, but 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.000 in this in this episode, that music is just that 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:46.000 song is just playing over that whole sort of intro. Yeah, right, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.360 and even it's not only music without lyrics, it's music 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.840 with lyrics over dialogue, which is kind of like, oh shit, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.160 but it works so so well. It's so it's so 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.840 classic scandal. Yeah, the beginning was such a classic scandal. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.920 I loved it so much, and I felt like, oh god, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.000 when I come back, like, if I ever get to 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.040 play a cool character, I think I will. Do you 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:12.720 think Quinn got cool? Oh yeah? Quinnd so cool? Dude? 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.880 Oh hell yeah. When you started wearing your leathers and 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:20.680 your black boots, you got so cool. I don't know. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.640 I felt like in her heart, she's still such a 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.640 fucking turd, are we all? Though we're all turds at heart. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.960 I think all of it. Can we take a moment 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.080 to discuss what we're wearing on our heads? Yes, and 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.600 then we'll get more into the episode. Yes, yes, G 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:39.880 and I wore our Gladiator in a suit, long sleeve, comfy, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.560 a little too tight, don't put it in the dryer shirts. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.440 And today I text you this morning, I'm like, what 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.800 what are we wearing today? And what do you have 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.960 on I was like, well, I'm thinking of wearing my beanie, 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.800 my black beanie that I bought in the White House 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.760 gift shop and we went to the White House Correspondence dinner. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:06.080 Why did I buy stationary ie? So cool? I bought 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.320 a beanie. I bought a backpack. But we're fucking sporting 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:16.400 it now and chilling. My scandal hat is really not cute. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.760 I love it, but I think it is not a 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.280 great hat. I apologize to anyone who got who got, 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:26.600 I don't know. I gave it away. It's cute. It's 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.440 a white beanie and it's a scandal. What does it 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.360 say on it? Scandal White Gladiator. It's a white beanie, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.600 which just is not the right color for a beanie. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.800 A white beanie is not great, Like it's weird. You 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.160 sweat in your head, there's dance like your head is gross. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:41.880 I make up on my forehead. So to have a 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.840 white hat on is Oh, isn't that funny because our 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:51.800 show White Sha the hat says Scandal in red and 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.200 then Gladiators in black underneath your head hot. My head 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.120 is so hot, I'm gonna be pulling the ship off 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.560 in like so hot whenever you need to just let 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.520 your head breathe, g just let it fly. Um. The 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.560 coolest part about Scandal, there are so many things, but 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.199 we got to go on the most epic trips. We 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.879 got to go to two White House Correspondent dinners, both 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:19.520 under Obama as president. And it was the most amazing 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.400 fun time with the hat you got from the first 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.199 trip or the second trip, it was from the first one. Yeah. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:29.320 And also we were on the hottest like political show 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.120 on television, so all of us in DC like there 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.160 for the correspond instant. It was just it was it 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.159 was so surreal and meeting all these political figures and 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.760 celebrities and like, you know people that were like Aretha 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.720 Franklin was like, I love your show, and it was 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.800 just like wild to be around people, you know, what 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.840 it's the closest I always equated to, like, it's like 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.800 the closest to being probably like what the Beatles felt like. Yeah, 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.040 we talked about it before that you can't go anywhere, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.280 but I sort of can. But when you drop the 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.600 Scandal cast as a group into DC, when we were on, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.159 it was like we were the fucking Beatles. Yeah. It 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.960 was dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the most memorable 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.760 nights of my life I want to say is when 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.000 we were there. Oh I think this was the last time, 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.400 but whatever, Yeah, I think it was the time we went. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.600 We went as a cast kind of three times for 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.040 two different White House Correspondence dinners, and then the last 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.639 time we went to shoot the penultimate episode there. Yes, 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.160 and again we could never go anywhere as a group 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.520 without being completely I mean, it was not safe. But 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.760 Carrie had this idea that was, like, I love all 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.320 of the Washington Monuments and all of the monuments at night, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:52.439 and so we got like two escalades that followed each other, 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.879 and it was pouring rain, so actually no one was 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:59.720 around and freezing, and the whole Scandal cast like jumped 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.200 around from like the Jefferson Memorial to the Lincoln Memorial, 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:06.240 to the Washington Memorial, to the Einstein statue. Yeah, all 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.760 at night while we were just chugging whistlepig whiskey out 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.240 of the fucking bottles to keep us warm, and we 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.080 did photo shoots in front of all the monuments we got, 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:16.800 you know, we got out in video to each other 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.879 and took pictures and yeah, and we were drinking whistle 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.560 pig whiskey, which and then later on Bellamy I think 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.840 it was Bellamy right who got us all a bottle 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.760 of whistle pig. I still have it in my kitchen. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:33.959 Oh yeah, I haven't opened it. Drank that shit. Okay. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:38.359 So Joe Beth Williams is unbelievable in this episode, and 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.000 the things that neet that really struck out to me 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.919 at the beginning. Okay, we've got so Sandra Harding is 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.040 the case. Her son is saying there's a rape allegation 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.800 against him from a woman named Helen Fisher. Olivia makes 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.880 a deal with Gideon Wallace to keep the story quiet 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.680 for seventy two hours and then he'll get an exclusive. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.399 Amanda Tanner tells Olivia that she has undeniable proof of 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:03.080 the affair with fits. Please Let's talk about Amanda Tanner 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.200 for a second. Weren't you a huge Gilmore Girls fan? Oh? 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.880 My god, I still am. They play that shit like 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.359 every single day that have never seen an episode really 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.320 talk about scandal paced, Katie. Those guys speak faster than 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:20.359 we do. They speak so fast. Yeah. I remember auditioning 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.800 for it, and Kate, Oh yeah, I auditioned like a 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:24.600 million times because it was like the hot show when 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.520 I moved out to la and auditioned to a million times, 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.000 and they would always make me speak really fast, and 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:29.199 I'd be like, this is so easy for me, Like 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:30.600 why am I not getting a part on the show? 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.720 But I never got a part on that show. They're 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:37.000 less Yeah. Oh. Amanda Tanner is played by Liza While 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.760 Who who did she play on Gilmore She played Paris 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.120 on Gilmore Girls. She was like the biggest, like staunch, 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:48.480 like bitch, like super smart, like went to Harvard, like angry, 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.919 like the meanest, like but she was Rory's best friend. 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.080 Who's one of the lead characters on the show. Do 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.080 you think Amanda Tanner is like a completely different character 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.760 for Liza than Paris? Oh? Absolutely, Yeah, That's why I 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.800 was so great watching her play Amanda Tanner because I 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.040 was like, this girl got ranged. You know, people say 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.040 that all the time, but she the emotional places that 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:15.119 Liza had to go playing Amanda Tanner was like, you know, 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.399 I mean, I think we all kind of are familiar 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.479 with it a little bit because we all had to, 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.320 you know, go through some serious stuff on the show 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.120 as our characters. But she just does such a wonderful 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.480