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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondoland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartradiot Katie. We're talking about how Garmo watched

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Speaker 1: episode one oh three Hell Half No Fury twice yesterday,

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Speaker 1: once today, and it's on in the background currently as

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Speaker 1: we are recording this podcast. Correct. Yes, when I've watched

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Speaker 1: this episode now a few times, I'm just like this sucks,

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Speaker 1: Like this is so awful. I don't want to explore

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Speaker 1: these feelings. I feel this like massive weight of responsibility

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Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, if I'm going to breed and

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Speaker 1: contribute a human being to our fucked up society, the

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Speaker 1: least I can do is hope that they only add

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Speaker 1: goodness and don't take it away. And right, I mean

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Speaker 1: my mom sort of. I mean, my brother was like,

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Speaker 1: is the best fucking dude. I know, you know him,

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Speaker 1: he's the best, but like he was such a fucked

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Speaker 1: up teenager, Like he did such fucked up shit. He

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Speaker 1: did not fucking rape a girl, thank you God, but

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Speaker 1: like he definitely fucking soul fucking marijuana and did dumb shit,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. My mom was like at

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Speaker 1: well he turned out. Yeah, he did turn out. Well.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, did your mom ever think that, Like

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Speaker 1: your mom had three boys. Oh yeah. Plus we grew up,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the eighties in New York City, where

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Speaker 1: a ball of crime, a snow globe of crime. It

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Speaker 1: was just the worst, you know, so I can imagine.

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Speaker 1: But they also, you know, they had really no you know,

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Speaker 1: us go and and you know, luckily we're somewhat okay.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite facts about Giermo Diaz growing up

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Speaker 1: in such a fucking rough time and rough neighborhood. Tell

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Speaker 1: me if this is wrong. This is what it is

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Speaker 1: in my head every time there's a close up of

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Speaker 1: the back of Huck's head. Oh yeah, I love it

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Speaker 1: so much because you have this scar back there, because

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Speaker 1: didn't you get hit with a gun? Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 1: believe you remember that. Oh I think of it every

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Speaker 1: time I see the back every and since I've been

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Speaker 1: watching all these episodes, and they always you're always hacking

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Speaker 1: hawk and they're always zooming in on the back of

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Speaker 1: of your head. Oh my god. Yes, I got mugged

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, this is it? Like die?

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Speaker 1: Oh of course, But somehow, you know how they say

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Speaker 1: you get super like calm in those in those moments

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you remember that. Did you have to

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Speaker 1: that is crazy. And where do you fall in line

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Speaker 1: every couple that works out really well, they're not the

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Speaker 1: in the Maybe I'm the oldest and Adams the baby

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Speaker 1: on this fucking paper? And on this fucking paper it

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Speaker 1: says we're talking about episode one of three, which was

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Speaker 1: titled Hell Hath No Fury. It aired on April nineteenth

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Speaker 1: of twenty twelve. It was written by Matt Byrne, which

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Speaker 1: by Alice Brown. So much to say about both of these, ge,

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Speaker 1: Do you want to give me the synopsis? In Scandal Pace? Yes? Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Millionaire CEO Sandra Harding contracts OPA with

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Speaker 1: helping on her son Travis's trial for rape. Amanda Tanner's

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Speaker 1: this amazing speech to Harrison. By the way, Jericka Hinton

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Speaker 1: get to all of that. Yes, this episode, I think

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Speaker 1: tell me that Tony Goldwin takes off his shirt when

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00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: he wakes up, when he oversleeps. He's oversleeps, and Mellie

425
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: is sitting in the fucking West wing where wherever they sleep, know,

426
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: the private residence I think is what it's called, yea,

427
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: and Tony's sleeping and we're just going to reserve the

428
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: round on this podcast that whenever I call people their

429
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: characters names or their real names whatever, get yeah, yeah,

430
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: Tony's sleeping And he wakes up and he's like, what's happening?

431
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: Mandela got up for me? Like Mandela's waiting for me.

432
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: I can't sleep. Yes, yes, he's in boxers and like

433
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: a T shirt that he slept in and he quickly

434
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: takes off his t shirt and I was dumbfounded. He's

435
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: pretty easy on the eyes. What is going on with

436
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: this human being's body? Like, but it's just not fair.

437
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I loved he is family. He

438
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: drinks wine, he orders desserts, he eats carbohydrates. He just

439
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 1: must also like eat like baby vampires or something that

440
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: I do. Although, Katie, I remember during the table reads,

441
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: I always remember Tony having ordering a salad. It was

442
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: like from tender Greens and it was either the tuna

443
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: with you know, with the greens. I know, I'm so hungry,

444
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: right are you hungry? Hungry too? Oh my god, let's

445
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 1: talk about what we ate in a little bit. But

446
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: I remember Tony always eating super super healthy. I think

447
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: as him. And then you know, when Scott Foley comes

448
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 1: into the picture, when Jake comes into the picture, they

449
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: always knew. They were like at the drop of a hat,

450
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: they were like, you gotta take your shirt off. You

451
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: know you're gonna have sex with would a live here

452
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: or someone else? So I think that I feel like

453
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: they were always super super prepared. Well, he looked outstanding.

454
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: Even in those two minutes. I was like God, if

455
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: you were editing the episode, you must have been like,

456
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: and Shauna is sitting there like putting the episodes together.

457
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: She must have been like, Okay, well, we can just

458
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: rest assured that Tony should be topless in every sex

459
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: scene for the next seven years. He's fine, yes, But

460
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: also that that scene when he wakes up and he

461
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: oversleeps it reminded me. Wasn't Tony always sleeping on set? Like,

462
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: wasn't he We'd always like catch him like a sleep

463
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: like any chance he God, he was like sleeping. Why

464
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: is he so tired? I don't know, but I'm tired too.

465
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: I am too. But you know what, maybe it's because

466
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: he was fifty then, right, Like do you know what

467
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean? Like when we were shooting Scandal, I was

468
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: twenty eight through like thirty six, wow, and you were

469
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: I turned forty on the pilot. On the pilot, I

470
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: turned forty. Yeah, so he was like, because I think

471
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: Tony's like sixty six or sixty seven, I think, yeah,

472
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: I think he's six. Let's google it. I think he's

473
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: like fifty eight or fifteen. Yeah, oh am, I oh,

474
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: oh am, I'm completely wrong. Hold on because if he's

475
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: he's sixty two. What Oh shit, he looks good. I know,

476
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: but so imagine at fifty two years old, you're in

477
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: fifty two yet, gee, imagine being on set with those hours.

478
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: He was just so tired. She was tired. She gotta sleep.

479
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: She was like, I gotta sleep. I think him and

480
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: Jeffie were constantly sleeping on set. Yeah, jeff was always

481
00:25:52,760 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: sleeping for sure. We'll be right back, guys, what other

482
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: notes do you have? Well, let's talk about maybe Alice

483
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: and Leady Brown, like our director for this episode. Let's

484
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: give a whole fucking moment of silence, respect, love, and

485
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: adoration for that woman. Alison Leady Brown came into Our

486
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: Lives on Scandal and directed a whole bunch of episodes.

487
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is the first episode she direct she directed, right, Yeah,

488
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: I think it was. Yeah, the loveliest woman, super chill,

489
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: super funny, so beautiful, just such a great, great director.

490
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: And I think she came from directing a lot of

491
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: stuff on like Nickelodeon, right, a lot of like kid shows.

492
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: So it was funny to see her transition from that

493
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: into this, you know, crazy scandal world. We were so

494
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: lucky to get her so early at the top and

495
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: actually I never look at shit like this. But I

496
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: have to say, when I was rewatching this episode, there

497
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: are so many just fucking dope shots. Yes, and I'm

498
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know about camera, but I feel

499
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: like she's nailing it. Yes, Yes, And we had such

500
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: a love affair with Alison Liddy Brown because she came

501
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: back and directed the infamous seven fifty two. Should have

502
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: won every fucking acting award under the sun. Also, Alison

503
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: Leady Brown is queer. She's you know, she's an openly

504
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: gay woman, which I loved, you know what I mean,

505
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: especially when she directed me in seventy two because I'm

506
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: openly as well. But I don't know, it was just

507
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: a cool thing to be, like, all right, cool and

508
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a shirt that says queer right now. Yes,

509
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: you are speaking about which I was thinking about this

510
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: last night. When we have carry on, we have to

511
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: ask her this. I think Larry was like the last

512
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: person to know that Giermo Diaz is an openly gay person.

513
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: She was like what I feel like the first bunch

514
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: of episodes, we were all like pretty buttoned up about

515
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: our personal lives. I think we were all just like

516
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: kind of nervous and exceed and like scared and trying

517
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: to put like, you know, we just didn't know if

518
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: we were going to be real life friends or like,

519
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, it was just like I don't know if

520
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: people like knew everything. And I don't know at what

521
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: episode I asked you where do you live? And you said, oh,

522
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: I live in West Hollywood, right by the parade. And

523
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, parade, Like I literally know what

524
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: you were talking about. I was like, the parade, And

525
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, the fucking gay Pride parade.

526
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is this person gay? And then I

527
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: ran home and I googled it and I found out

528
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: that you were and I was like, this is the

529
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: fucking greatest news and sliced bread. But then I remember

530
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: that Carrie. I don't know how she found out, but

531
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: I remember it was in like episode seven of season one,

532
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: while we were in Gideon's apartment and he's dead on

533
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: the floor. This is how it is in my memory.

534
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. And she found out

535
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: that you were gay. I think we were all talking

536
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: and maybe I said it or something and she flipped out,

537
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: screaming more Because Carrie has an inside of her where

538
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm the dork that's the last to know. Yes,

539
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: she also has extreme fomo like fear of missing out,

540
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: like she needs to be in on every conversation, everything

541
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: that's happening, right, So I'm sure she was like, wait,

542
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: what how did I not know? Yes, she's very like

543
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: especially in OPA, it's such like, you know, like a

544
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: click of high school students who were like all talking talking, talking, talking,

545
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: and if you're like over to the left getting your

546
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: hair and makeup done and you like miss a little

547
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: tidbit of hot goss, You're like, have you got to

548
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: get in there? You know? So she felt like she

549
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: hadn't known yet, and I think she was the last

550
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: of the OPA people to know. So then what happens

551
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: is this is insane. Are you ready for this tidbit

552
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you m Helen, who's the girl that

553
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: is accusing Travis of rape, is played by this actress

554
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: named Helen Woglum. She and I were an acting class

555
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: together at Leslie Kahn No Way, and she was so

556
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: so good good. Yes, yes, yes, She's got that monologue

557
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: where she's like how much how much would it take

558
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: for you? Yeah, how much would it take for you

559
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: to be quiet about being raped? To shut up? How

560
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: much could you be bought for? And her lip is

561
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: all quivering and she's so good. Were you in the room? No,

562
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: you're wasn't in the room for that. No, but I

563
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: think that's the first time obviously with the characters were

564
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Olivia and the other attorneys word and they were all like,

565
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: oh shit, this bitch is telling the truth. Like we're

566
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: fucked now, you know what I mean. They were like, oh,

567
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: she's not even taking the money. She was like, no,

568
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't want the money, like yeah, And then they're

569
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: trying to get him ready for trial and he says

570
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: to Harrison, welles, what does this mean? They always take

571
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: the money? And then Harrison calls Olivia and he's like,

572
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: I think he's paid people off before, which sets all

573
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: of opa like down the path to know. This guy's

574
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: a fucking piece of shit. And Michael Cassidy plays him

575
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: so well. Oh he's so good, he's so good. He's

576
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: such a great actor. Oh good. The other thing that

577
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: when they find out Harrison goes to get the rape

578
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: kit from Jericha h h Yes, who ended up kicking

579
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: ass so much that again. Like I said, Shaun Lynne

580
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: keeps it all in ensemble, like they gave her an

581
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: amazing job. She played Stephanie Edwards on Gray's Anatomy. But

582
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: how fucking great was her monologue? Yeah, oh good, so moving,

583
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: so moving, but powerful and like hell yeah, Like she

584
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: just throws it back at Harrison because he's sort of

585
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: flirting with her in the beginning. He's trying to get

586
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: this rape kit, you know what I mean, And she's like, dude,

587
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: you don't got to flirt with me. Listen. I deal

588
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: with these women that have gone through this extremely traumatizing experience,

589
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: like if you need something, I'll give you whatever you want,

590
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: but don't flirt with me, especially not in this room,

591
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: not right now, and in this environment, you know what

592
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean. And she does it so freaking well. She's

593
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: so powerful, such a great freaking actress. Yeah, she does

594
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: it so well. She's such a good actress. Matt Byrne

595
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: wrote this episode, which makes me think of how long

596
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: I've been with Matt burn because Matt Byrne. First of all,

597
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't until reading these pieces of paper that I

598
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: even realized Matt Burne was with us from the beginning,

599
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: was he like I thought he came in at season two.

600
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe he wrote this episode. I honestly, I

601
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: was like, maybe season three or four. I thought Matt

602
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: Burn sort of came in. But I thought so too.

603
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: And he wrote Inventing Anna. No, yes, so, I I

604
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: mean Seana wrote it. I mean he was in the

605
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: writers for Inventing Anna. But he was like a big

606
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: dog on Inventing Anna. He wasn't like, he was like executive.

607
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what his title was, but it was

608
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: a big title. And so I got to be with

609
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: him in New York for a while shooting Inventing Anna.

610
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: And it's just so cool to watch and having been

611
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: with someone sort of at the start, because I don't

612
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: actually think he was a television writer before Scandal. I

613
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: think he was actually a journalist. I think he wrote.

614
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: I think he was a journalist. And they in the

615
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: Scandal writer's room, especially at the beginning, they had a

616
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: lot of people who weren't television writers who could really

617
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: write in that sort of up against it taking clock

618
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: like article type way. But he wrote Inventing Anna, and

619
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I played this character. Rachel Deloch Williams

620
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sobbed. I'm crying like on the stand testifying,

621
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: and Matt Burne came in and he gave me like

622
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: an acting note and I was like yeah. He was

623
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: like me, Yeah. He came in and he was like,

624
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm I was there at this actual trial of Amma Deelvi.

625
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: He was at the trial for doing research for this show.

626
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: And he was like, your character at this point is

627
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: fucking ugly sobbing. This isn't like fake, like, this isn't

628
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: like even just a little bit crying like boo hoo.

629
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: This is like how ugly and unabandoned do you cry

630
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: when no one's looking? And I was like, oh fuck,

631
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: which is the worst thing you could tell an actor

632
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: because then that pressure no tears anywhere to be found.

633
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Don't freaking tell me that shit, Like really, Giarmo, I

634
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: was like, bring in the tear stick. You're bringing them

635
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: tear sticks? Do you ever I use a tier stick

636
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: to you? I have in the past, but yeah I have, Yeah,

637
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: for sure I have. And then there's you know, you

638
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: just never know. That's the thing about acting. Sometimes it

639
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: comes and you don't need that shit, and sometimes it's

640
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: just not available. You're just not it's just not there,

641
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: and you have to fake the funk and that tears

642
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: that comes in for the for our listeners, I don't

643
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: know what a tear stick is. It's a freaking little

644
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: hollow stick that has like um eucalyptus in the middle, right,

645
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: and the makeup artist blows threw it into your eyes.

646
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: Make your eyes tear up, right, Katie, Yeah, it's they

647
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: have two different guys. There's a Menthol stick that's a blower. Yeah,

648
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: that's what she's talking about. They like blow Menthol crystals

649
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: into your eyes. It's essentially like blasting vix vapor rub

650
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: in your eyes, which makes tears come. Or there's a

651
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: lipstick tube that's Menthol, like a vix vapor rub in

652
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: allipstick form, and I would just rub that underneath my

653
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: eyes when they would call action. Yeah, I literally think

654
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: I did damage sometimes during between Scandal and Inventing Anna,

655
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: there are times, like you said, where I can cry

656
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: on command and it's fine. But then you're on our

657
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: four yea of shooting the scene and you're so dried

658
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: out and you're so like I can like I don't

659
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: even want to think about dead puppies. Anymore. And if

660
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: you're coverage, if you're last up to get your coverage,

661
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: coverage is when they're you know, the camera's pointed at you,

662
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: and you do you do the scene, um you're featured

663
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: by the time they get to you. Sometimes it's just

664
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: your drained Like you said, it's it's just not there,

665
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes it is. It comes out of nowhere. That's

666
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: what's so beautiful about acting, too, right, because it's sort

667
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: of magical and you never know. Sometimes crazy beautiful stuff happens,

668
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: and sometimes it doesn't. I agree, you know, And that's

669
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: what that's also like. Sometimes I'm like I used to

670
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: feel guilty, but then I was like, no, like that's

671
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: good acting too, Like I'm acting like I'm really doing

672
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: this shit and nobody's clocking me for it, so you

673
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that was good? Right? Oh

674
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: you mean like if you feel like I know, I

675
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: used to be like, oh fuck, am I not supposed

676
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: to tell people I use it tear sick because people

677
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: would come a crappyr actor. That's the thing. We don't

678
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: use it all the time. It's it's once in a

679
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: while when you feel like, Okay, I need to I

680
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: need to be there at this level of emotions and

681
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm not there, so and then you do it, but

682
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't We don't use it all the time a

683
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, don't like to spend the

684
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: whole time thinking like, oh my god, there are no

685
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: tears coming. Yeah, they're just like taking yourself out of

686
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: the scene. You're not thinking about what you want from

687
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: the other person. Do you think Meryl Streep uses a tearstick? Hell? No,

688
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But you think she's just that great? Yes,

689
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: But I've also seen scenes where she's super emotional and

690
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: crying and there's no tears and it still works and

691
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: your eyes are sort of well up and do you

692
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it doesn't have to be

693
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: full on tears all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

694
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: And again she's so wonderful. Somebody get fucking Meryl Streep

695
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: on this podcast so that we can a tear stick.

696
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: Do you use a tear stick? I want to find out.

697
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: I've got to know somebody that knows her. I met

698
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: her daughter once. But do you think it'd be weird

699
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: if I went right up to her daughter be like,

700
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: does your mother? It would be a little weird. I

701
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: think yeah, but I think you should still do it

702
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: because you're probably not that close with her, right, No,

703
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: don't care if I promise here now today, folks, if

704
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: I run into Gracie Gummer, Mami Gummer, I like those names. Yeah,

705
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: if I run into them, I'm an asking that their

706
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: mom uses a tearstick. Oh, we have to talk about

707
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Carry Washington in her first White House state dinner dress.

708
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: That is she No one wears clothes like Harry Washington.

709
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: So this is the first time we see Olivia Pope

710
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: dressed up going to a White House extravagant event, right,

711
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: this is the first time we see her, and it's remarkable.

712
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, she looks so gorgeous. And when they're dancing

713
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: and his hands are on her back because the dress

714
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: is backless and it's white, and I'm just like, yes,

715
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: you know again. Adam walked into the room, he left,

716
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: and then he came back for this part and he

717
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: was like, my god, they were so good together. Harry

718
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: had good chemistry with that white dress. That dress was outstanding.

719
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: She looked remarkable. It really was. Yeah, so classy, so hot,

720
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: And I also felt so bad for Mellie, like cut

721
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: to like what Mellie's wearing in like some sort of

722
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: dumpy hairstyle and like a crappy sort. It's not crappy,

723
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: but it was like matron le right compared to Olivia Pope. Yeah,

724
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, Carrie had a lot of

725
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: skin out and stuff and I was like, wow, Melly,

726
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: you don't stand a fucking chance like that wig was

727
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: on tight on Carry's head. And their chemistry during the

728
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: dancing when he was like, meet me in our spot,

729
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: She's like, don't look at me, don't look at me

730
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. He goes to that spot to wait for her,

731
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: and she's sort of on her way to meet him,

732
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: and Cyrus first stops Olivia and he's like, um, get

733
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: out of here. We don't want you here. We know

734
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: you're trying to blackmail us, because because in the meanwhile,

735
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: Cyrus receives a recording of Fits having sex with a

736
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: woman and they obviously assume it's a Manda Tanner, and

737
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: Cyrus thinks that it was Olivia Pope that is trying

738
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: to blackmail them, So he stops Olivia Pope in her

739
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: tracks where she's going to meet Fits, and he's like, hell, no, fuck,

740
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: you think you're doing get out of here, and he

741
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: throws her out of the White House, and then he

742
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: goes to the spot where Fits is waiting for Olivia

743
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: and he sort of, you know, tells him. He's like,

744
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: I know what you're doing. You're waiting here for fucking Olivia. Yeah,

745
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: well she's not coming because she's trying to blackmail us. Yeah.

746
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: It's it's really interesting how Cyrus is sort of that

747
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: in between that middle guy. He is a sticky, tricky,

748
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: smart character. He's just like always looking he's he's just

749
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: doing what's in what he thinks is in his own

750
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: best interest, no matter who. Yes, he has to sort

751
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: of cross and doubles. He's playing double sides all the time.

752
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he plays us so brilliantly, especially in

753
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: this scene, I mean always, Oh my god, he's such

754
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing actor. Then this episode

755
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: takes such a turn for darkness for me, which is

756
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: I sab when the mom calls the cops on Travis,

757
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what's so dark and why I

758
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: think that? And I'm so sorry I'm going to go here.

759
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Pause you have a son now? Yeah? Yeah, Because it

760
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: made you think, like would I do this to my kid. Well,

761
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would. Hopefully I never have

762
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: to know, but I do. I get so worried about

763
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: raising a kind boy, a kind white boy in this world,

764
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: and him ever hurting someone, and me being completely aghast

765
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: and shocked by, like, I can't believe I like raised

766
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: a monster. You know, she has all these brilliant monologues

767
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: where she was like I was never there, I never

768
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: made it to his games, and I'm fucking all up

769
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: in my son's shit. You're such a present mom, Yeah,

770
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: you're all up in his grill. Okay, what else haven't

771
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: we talked about this episode? What are other favorite things

772
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: we should talk about? How the character who is accusing

773
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: this young piece of crap who supposed he raped her,

774
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: we find out the OPA team ends up discovering that

775
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: it was her best friend that in fact was raped

776
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: by him, and she then and that girl ended up

777
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: killing herself. He paid her off. She ends up killing

778
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: herself and so her friend we cut to what is

779
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: this character's name, Helen? Yeah, Helen. So Helen ends up

780
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: dying her hair and sort of I don't want to

781
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: say stalking because that has a nasty edge because she

782
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: was trying to get this guy back for what he

783
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: did to her best friend. Yeah, she's trying to blackmail him. No,

784
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: what would the word be. She trying to trick him

785
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: into like taking her out and having sex with her,

786
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: and then she accuses him of raping her. But you know,

787
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: and so the OPA team finds out and Booger ends

788
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: up like destroying her on the stand and she's crying.

789
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: It's such a sad emotional scene because you feel for her.

790
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: You're like, she's she was fucking stepping up for her

791
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: best friend who ended up killing herself because this guy

792
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: raped her. So she was like, I'm gonna dye my hair,

793
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find this dude. Then I'm gonna end up

794
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: accusing him. Anyway, it was all obviously, you know, when

795
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: when it's all discovered, they can't prosecute because it wasn't her,

796
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: it was her friend. And Travis fucking gets off because

797
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: he's a piece of shit. And then the mom has

798
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: to make this choice about calling the you know, Olivia

799
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: goes to her door and says, what he did wasn't

800
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: your fault, but how you handle it now is right, Yeah,

801
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: And so she calls the cops on him, and then

802
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: I freak out about raising a sun. Yeah, and the

803
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: mother ends up calling the cops on him and they

804
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: take him away, which is so satisfying. It's so great.

805
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: And he's like, what's so satisfying, Get the fuck out

806
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: of here. We would say we'll be right back the

807
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: other thing. I love. Two more things about this episode, okay,

808
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: three one, Tony says, why do you invite live? And

809
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: Mellie says, in that classic creepy, fucking Bellamy knows all

810
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: type way, she's just like, you needed to see her.

811
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: You slept better last night, didn't you? And You're like,

812
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on with this relationship? Yeah?

813
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: She knows? What does she know? How much does she know?

814
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: This feels so itchy and so interesting, and I love it.

815
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: And the way that Bellamy Young is able to just

816
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: like fucking deliver that in two lines is ridiculous. She

817
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: kind of lowers her voice, she goes down here, I

818
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: know now you can sleep, can't you. We ought to

819
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: make her do that on this vine. Yes, yes, I

820
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: was gonna say you. Speaking of memorable memorable lines, this

821
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: is this the episode where Huck says to Quinn, you're

822
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: weird weird is good, which I love. Oh my god,

823
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe we almost stepped over that. No. I

824
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: remember getting that monologue and it said scandal pace as

825
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: fast as you can say at Katie where I call

826
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: get in, And I'm like, you were so good and

827
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: so fast in that scene. Or and that beautiful shot

828
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: of that like stained glass like piece of art whatever

829
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: it was behind you. Oh, it's such a great And

830
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: then Huck is waiting at the door and he says,

831
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: and you say you're weird, and I say, no, I'm not,

832
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: and you say, weird is good, and I say, thank you.

833
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: We're so stoics. It's the best. Weird is good. And

834
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: right here, right now is even like the beginning of

835
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: the quinnin Hawk Shit. Yes, yes, you're already seeing what

836
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: they're fucking doing. Like yeah, I'm not sure if they

837
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: knew or they didn't know. Yeah, I think they were

838
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 1: starting to kind of feel feel it going that way,

839
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just so great. And

840
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: then another scene that stuck out. I don't know if

841
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: you were going to say this one too, is when

842
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: she's at the bar and she's waiting for Gideon and

843
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: he hawks shows up and he's like, put your hair down,

844
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: flirt a little bit, but not too much. Don't drink

845
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: the real drinks. Drink you drink this. You pay off

846
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: the bartender. By the way, we see the Quinninhok thing,

847
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: and then we see Quinn say to live, which I

848
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: kind of I didn't like, hate my performance, which is good.

849
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: I said, um, well, I trust my gut and I

850
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: think she's lying. Yeah, And I just fast forwarded all

851
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: the way to like the end of the series where

852
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: Opa is QPA and this whole thing started because Olivia Pope,

853
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean didn't start. She can do a million things,

854
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: but one of the things that makes Olivia Olivia is

855
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: her gut. And we already see from the beginning of

856
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Scandal that Quinn's got one too. I thought of that too.

857
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: It's so brilliant. But then I at first I was like,

858
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: fuck is it Olivia supposed to be the only one

859
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: that you know, goes with her gut. But then I thought, well,

860
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: that's the whole reason that she put this team together.

861
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: That's the reason why she got freaking Lindsay Dwyer and

862
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: changed her identity. She knew there was something special about you,

863
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: about Huck about Harrison, about Abbey, about all of them.

864
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: They're all flawed, but then they're all sort of brilliant

865
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: in their own way too. So you see when Quinn says,

866
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, I trust my gut, and you know, I

867
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: think she's lying, Olivia has that sort of moment of like, wait,

868
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? But then it sort of

869
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: clicks her and she's like, oh shit, Okay, this girl,

870
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: this girl's got a gut too. Whoa which I love.

871
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: The other crazy thing that I have read about on

872
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: the Internet that exists in this like the interweb dark net.

873
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: Remember we would always talk about the dark net web, Yeah, yeah,

874
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: dark web. Some fans seem to think in this whole

875
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: like Olivia has a gut and Quinn has a gut,

876
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: and maybe from the beginning they knew that OPA was

877
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: going to turn into QPA. Supposedly, some fans think that

878
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Quinn is only named Quinn because it's the closest letter

879
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: from an Oh, Like, all you would have to do

880
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: to make OPA QPA is add that list a line.

881
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah what is that? There's got to be a name

882
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: for that little line in the queue, right, I wonder

883
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: that's got to be on purpose Olivia Pope and associates. Yeah,

884
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: Quinn Perkins and associates and Perkins, Oh shit, is that

885
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: I have goose Web is fucking crazy? Right? And then

886
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: the episode ends with the big reveal that Amanda Tanner

887
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: is with child. As they used to have to say

888
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: in the fifties on I Love Lucy. They couldn't say pregnant.

889
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: They had to say with child or true. Yeah, they

890
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: couldn't even say I'm pregnant. Yeah, So Amanda Tanner is

891
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: pregnant with what we seem to believe is President Fitzgerald

892
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: Grant's baby, and she's only asked for I sit down

893
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: meeting with him, that's what she wants. Yeah. Um. Some

894
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: fun facts about this episode is that David Rosen is

895
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: seen with a dog. Oh remember on the scanal days

896
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: where I'd be like, let's try going a whole day

897
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: where Gamma Grammar always to Spanish in me so that

898
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: I could learn Spanish, and I would make it one minute.

899
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: I'd be like when Katie was like, Okay, I'm can't

900
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: do it, can't do it, don't say where you're talking about?

901
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: And I love to talk too much, and then we'd

902
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: be like, let's go see what food they got in

903
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: the in the you know, crafty, let's go look at

904
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: for So he's got a dog in this episode. It's

905
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: the only time the dog appears and never appears again. Yeah,

906
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: you think they're probably just like this is so expensive,

907
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: like fucking I mean, and also like, you know, how

908
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: many opportunities was there to be, like let's bring in

909
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: the big dog. You know, he was either in his

910
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: office or right opia or wherever, so he kind of

911
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, I get that the dog phased out. Yeah.

912
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: The working title for the episode was actually a Woman Scorned.

913
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: The title comes from the phrase hell hath no fury,

914
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: like a woman scorned. Wait, so it's called hell hath

915
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: no fury? Yeah, and it was originally a Woman Scorned.

916
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: I think maybe because a woman scorned people wouldn't know

917
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: that was from a saying yeah, And I guess they

918
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: wanted to leave it sort of a little bit more

919
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: encompassing of a lot of stuff and except instead of

920
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: focusing in on woman the woman part. Maybe Oh that's

921
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: a good point. Perhaps, I don't know. In wrapping up,

922
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: should we do some tweets at the time? Oh you

923
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: ready for o shit? Time time time time, tweet, tweet,

924
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: tweets at the time, tweet at the time, y'all, Oh

925
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: my god, so many of these tweets that I'm reading

926
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: From April twenty sixth, there's a tweet from Guiermo Diaz.

927
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: What did what did you tweet? Dude? I don't even

928
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: freaking remember why I tweeted that shit. It looks like

929
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: it's a response to something, right, because I say, stop

930
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: trying to make fetch happen? Lol? Thanks Mike, glad you're

931
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: enjoying Scandal ABC. Who the hell was I talking to?

932
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Why is that guy Mike one trying to make fetch happen? Right?

933
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: What is he talking about? And is that Mike Webb

934
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: my boyfriend? Like, I wonder if that's because my boyfriend's

935
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: name is Mike. But I wonder because I remember he

936
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: was on Twitter for like a hot second. But then,

937
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: what was Mike's Twitter name? Do you remember it? I

938
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: don't remember because he was literally on for a second,

939
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: So I wonder if that was him. Anyway, we won't

940
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: ever know, but let me tell you something, that guy

941
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: Mike One, fetch never happened. Twetch never happened on Scandal

942
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: bu Bie by Balloon, Oh, that's a whole other thing

943
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: we got to talk about when that episode comes up

944
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: by balloon, the balloon scene I think was cut. Oh

945
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: no way, I don't think it ever made it to air.

946
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I really don't. But we'll get there. We could, but

947
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: we could. We remember the episode so we can still

948
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: talk about So then Natalie Abrams also tweeted this night

949
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: Scandal tweets at the Times and Natalie Abrams was like

950
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: a fucking huge journalist, reporter fan who covered Scandal from

951
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: the start when nobody was like the beginning of Scandal,

952
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: nobody cared, nobody gave us press, nobody cared. Nobody cared

953
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: except for Natalie Abrams. She wrote, in case you missed it,

954
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: hashtag scandal scoop. Will Quinn's relationship with Gideon get her

955
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: into trouble? That's not that interesting, but anyway, shout out

956
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: to Natalie Abrams, we love you. Carry tweeted a tweet

957
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: that night of a picture of her in the incredible

958
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: dress with her shy makeup artist, Sherry, and she wrote,

959
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: we have the best crew on TV at Scandal ABC. Yes,

960
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: Sherry Knight, who was Carrie's makeup artist for all seven years.

961
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: She needs to come on this podcast. We love her

962
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, we love her. Are there any other

963
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: good ones? Gee? Yeah, there's another good one from Mozilla Junior.

964
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: And she says, Cyrus and Scandal is a lion bleep, bleep, bleep.

965
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: I think what she meant to say is Cyrus and

966
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: Scandal is a lion piece of shit. Exclamation by esclamation

967
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: esclamation point. And then she says, I'm angry exclamation point

968
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: hashtag scandal. This is really starting to ramboup. Oh, someone's

969
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: got a good note for us. Sad bitch summer at

970
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: Twinkies and Wine says the only bad thing about Scandal

971
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: that the transitions are seizure inducing. I love. I think

972
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: she means because the clicks of the camera right, it

973
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: is sort of yes, good luck because we use the

974
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: shit out of that sound effect for seven years. Yes,

975
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: someone else tweeted, And another thing is the person's sort

976
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: of name, Mesha Crump. Yeah, Olivia Pope is a bad,

977
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: bad woman. Exclamation point. Oh wow. People are starting to

978
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: get in their in their feelings about the show. But

979
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: also it's the beginning of the show where I feel

980
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: like people didn't know which way to feel about Olivia

981
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: Pope because very soon, we're going to see from tweet

982
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: at the time that Olivia Pope can do no wrong. Yeah.

983
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: I really feel like at a certain point, Olivia Pope

984
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: was the greatest fucking superhero to have ever graced everyone's

985
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: television screens on Thursday nights at nine or ten o'clock,

986
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: and no one ever tweeted bad shit about Olivia Pope.

987
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: And god forbid you were a character on Scandal who

988
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: was against Olivia Pope at the time, you were fucked.

989
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: And even when she fucking killed that dude with a chair,

990
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: people were so like, Oh, Olivia, She's so wonderful, Olivia.

991
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: The way you kill that guy with a fucking chair,

992
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: she freaking clobbered this motherfucker and killed him. Way you

993
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: rigged an election, the way you cheat. We love you.

994
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: You can do no wrong. Olivia Pope is fucking perfect. YEP.

995
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: At this point, people just like weren't sure. I mean,

996
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: this is only episode three of the hundred and twenty.

997
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: I think we did one super super early on. Yeah, gee,

998
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: did you know? Like I know, we do tweets of

999
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: the time, but I also think that during the show

1000
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: there were actual real life scandals of the time. A

1001
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: lot of scandals. Listen, I bet there were scandals left

1002
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: and right during this whole show. I mean they're scandals

1003
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: every day, which we have to do that research too,

1004
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: which I'll put you on Gearmo. Since you're the researcher

1005
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: of the show who researches all the guest stars in

1006
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: their links to horror films, I need you to also

1007
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: put on the list scandals of the time I'm on it.

1008
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, g I kind

1009
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: of don't, but tell me if you do. During the

1010
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: airing of this episode, all these secret service dudes were

1011
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: relieved of their duties because they were all messing around

1012
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: with prostitutes allegedly. Yeah, but that's what's so crazy about

1013
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: scandal is that, like, nothing we did was far from truth. Yeah. Ever,

1014
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: but also that sounds so vanilla right now in twenty

1015
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: twenty two, when the twice impeached disgraced former president like

1016
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: stole literal documents from the White House and he has

1017
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: them in his freaking you're so right house or wherever

1018
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: the hell it is, and that a couple of prostitutes

1019
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: for these secret agents, like yo, they don't have time

1020
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,479
Speaker 1: to go date and go to bar. Yeah, they're working

1021
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: twenty four hour fucking shifts trying to keep the fucking

1022
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: most important person of the free world alive. It's like

1023
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: they need to pay for a quick fifteen minute blowjob. Yeah, listen,

1024
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: sex work is a respectable, like legitimate business. And have

1025
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: you ever been to Amsterdam? I haven't, No, I thought

1026
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: you were. Can ask me if I've ever hired a

1027
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: prostitute in Amsterdam, where sex work is legal. It's so fascinating.

1028
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: But at seven o'clock in the morning, people are just like,

1029
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: there's the line of the rows that are you know,

1030
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: men women in straight gay this that the other thing.

1031
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: You're walking past their little role their little rooms with

1032
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: the little and it's all like regulated and measured and

1033
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: safe and like a transaction. Yeah, and a transaction. What

1034
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: were we talking about? Oh yeah, the Secret Service guys

1035
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: that that scandal doesn't seem like seems so vanilla right now,

1036
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: right like the fact that that was a scandal back then.

1037
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: Now it's like really like, I love scandals of the times,

1038
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: though it does seem vanilla. I hope all those Secret

1039
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: Service agents have found employment since then, I guess, or

1040
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: have married some of their you know, prostitutes found love perhaps, yeah, sure.

1041
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: Or now that they're unemployed they have lots of free

1042
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: time to date. Yeah, now they don't have to pay

1043
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: for sex exactly. Well, it brings up to the point

1044
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: of Harrison in the season one where you know, when

1045
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: Abby's so fucking mad at him about him that Stephen

1046
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: uses you know, the dame to pay for sex for

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Speaker 1: the madam exactly, and Harrison is like, well, like whatever,

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Speaker 1: we're all paying for it. I do it. You know,

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Speaker 1: the movies or some fancy restaurant. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 1: same bullshit, different day. You know, It's like there you

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Speaker 1: have it, listeners. There you have scandals of the time. Yes, um, Gladiators,

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Speaker 1: we love you. This is the joy of my life

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Speaker 1: we had. Yes, you guys, we have such exciting fun things.

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Speaker 1: This was episode one oh three, And we've got guests

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Speaker 1: coming out that you're not coming up and out. I

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Speaker 1: sort of mashed those words both. Maybe some of them

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Speaker 1: are coming out too, you never know. We've got Axana

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Speaker 1: Bayoul coming out. We got Axana Bayol, whom I want

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Speaker 1: to make a correction. She's not a Russian skater. She

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Speaker 1: was a Ukrainian skater. Anyway, I didn't want to but yes, oh,

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Speaker 1: and Axana Bayoul and Brendan Hines, I hope are very

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Speaker 1: happy to No, that's not true. Yes, we're we can

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Speaker 1: have there. We should have them on talk about their wedding.

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Speaker 1: We have exciting guests coming on. Stick with us, so

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Speaker 1: much fun recapping of episodes, and we have like I

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Speaker 1: can't even tell you the guests. We're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking to all of your favorite Scandal characters and how

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Speaker 1: they came to be oh Pa, the White House, like

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Speaker 1: they all going to be on here. So stay tuned,

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Speaker 1: yes by balloon, Yet I don't know what. Our officials

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