1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an interesting day in Cleveland. First thing 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: that happened was we found out officially that Joe Flacker 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: was being benched. His days are done there in Cleveland. 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel will be the QB one. But what's surprising 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: about the move is that even though Flacco's getting benched, 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: he is still the backup. Shador Sanders did not get elevated. 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: He's still QB three. Incidentally, Chador spoke to the media 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: before this went public, so they didn't know yet that 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: he we're going to happen with the quarterback situation, And 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: if you believe what he said or didn't say, certainly 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: sounds like he listens to the Odd Couple. Because recall 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: what Kelvin Washington told him to do last Friday with 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: the microwave take time to rehit. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: An old contake that's gone cool on the outside. I 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: just go in the medal. It's microwave take with the 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: odd cup. 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: Of It's okay to be sh Door, Okay, it's all right. 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 5: Nothing wrong with you being Shdor. I like that you 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 5: can keep it down. Sometimes he didn't just keep it down. 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 5: He didn't talk at all. He acted like a mine 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 5: for about a minute and a half for the reporter 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 5: to do. They won't get anything from him, Shador Sanders 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 5: QB three. Still nothing changes, Dylan Gabriel starting in Cleveland, 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 5: and Shador had nothing to say, nothing to add to 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 5: the conversation. First of all, let me say it is 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 5: Rob's I appreciate Shadoor listening to the odd couple. 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 4: That means a lot to me. I'm sure it means 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: a lot to you, Rob. 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: We always appreciate our fans, We appreciate everybody's supports the 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 5: show and listen. 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: And is a part of it. But DA gets your doing. 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: You took it too far. 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 5: I didn't mean Shdor as in now all of a 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 5: sudden you are a. 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: Trade, world class trained mind. I didn't mean that you had. 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: A show coming up where you're gonna be part of 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 5: the blue man group, maybe the browner or orange man 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 5: group in Cleveland. What this is what I mean when 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 5: you tell somebody to do something and they go too far. 47 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 5: You tell them to take an inch, they take a mile. 48 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 5: All I was simply saying, Rob's. 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: For your door. You don't have to always give us 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: what's on your mind. 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 5: That's what the group chat is for, right, That's what 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 5: you jump in and you say, man, these quarterbacks playing 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 5: like bums, or I told you I think I'm better 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: than cam Ward or Dylan Gabriel or BOWNICKX or some 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: of the younger quarterbacks. That's what that's for. The group chat. 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 5: You got like four or five brothers. Hit your brothers up, 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: hit your pops up. Hit Tom Bradio. I don't care 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 5: hit somebody, but you don't always have to present yourself 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 5: like that at all times. And Rob, you know I've 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 5: defended them at times. I said, look better's a young man. 61 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: I still believe in the skill set. But man, you 62 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 5: ain't making it easy when you are a fifth round pick, 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: You're the third string guy on this team and you 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 5: do things like that. 65 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: Within now they got to come in and ignore it. 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 5: Sefanski doesn't want to answer questions about the team, doesn't 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: want to talk about you, and then now you're miming 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 5: and they're being asked a questions about your miming. So 69 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 5: these are the fast thing a fifth rounder, a third 70 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 5: stream backup guy needs to be doing, and he's doing it. 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 5: And you can do that if you're Patrick Mahomes and 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 5: you're having a phone with the media about something because 73 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 5: you're just blowing it off. 74 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: Hated, took too far. 75 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 5: Okay, you've earned that right, you have that equity, you've 76 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 5: built up that rapport with the city, the team, the 77 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: franchise and the community. You don't have that right now, 78 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 5: and so to be doing these types. 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: Of things, it's. 80 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 5: Probably frustrating, probably annoying for them, and to me it 81 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 5: is damaging. At last point, let me tell you a 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: little something about Joe Flacco. Rod Parker, I told you 83 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: I thought they should start Dylan Gabriel or Shador and 84 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 5: that you're trying to find your guy they want with 85 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: Joe flaccoh we get it. Joe Flacco's approving guy, veteran 86 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 5: super Bowl champ, but we knew what this was gonna be. 87 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: Joe Flacco has six interceptions, in their first four games, 88 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: He's been sacked nine times. He has two touchdowns. That's 89 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 5: terrible football, but that's to be expected with the Browns 90 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: right now where they are. And the point of bringing 91 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 5: up Joe Flacco is because Schadur isn't back up to 92 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel, probably a large part because of the antics 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 5: and all the other stuff. They now have him third 94 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: string when this was what I told you. If you're Chador, 95 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: this is what you wanted. I told you Joe Flacco 96 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 5: was gonna play his way out just because he's Joe 97 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 5: Flacco at this point in his career, and Dylan Gabriel, 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 5: because he's a third rounder, is gonna be the starter, 99 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 5: and you could bump up the second and there's a 100 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 5: lot of football to be had. Maybe Dylan Gabriel is 101 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 5: a great, or maybe hurts himself and you're in. But 102 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 5: now Joe Flacco's the backup, even though he's been trash. 103 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: Rob Well, it speaks volumes about Chadour. 104 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 6: If anything, I mean, what in the world would you 105 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: do going back to a forty year old quarterback unless 106 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 6: you just don't believe Shador is ready to be And 107 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 6: if what it's the other reason it doesn't even make sense. 108 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 6: I didn't think it, maighe any sense to have two 109 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 6: rookie quarterbacks on the staff anyway. It doesn't make You 110 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 6: got to make a decision. You can't have two of them. 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 6: It doesn't. 112 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: It just doesn't. 113 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 6: That's why it can't be the backup. So, uh, you know, 114 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 6: if Dylan Gabriel has a couple of rough starts, then 115 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 6: you put in the other quarterback for a couple of 116 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 6: rough starts, it could be could be ugly either way. 117 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 6: I don't even understand what they're doing from that standpoint, 118 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 6: but it speaks volumes about Shador that they're not even 119 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 6: interested in seeing what this guy could do in an 120 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 6: NFL game, And and uh, you know, I'm just it's strange. 121 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 6: It really is strange because none of it makes sense. 122 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 6: I don't think it has anything to do with the 123 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 6: antics and the other stuff. I don't believe that that 124 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 6: it has more to do with just him, uh and 125 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 6: his ability, because what else. 126 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: Could it be. 127 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 6: And I don't know, Maybe they're just holding on to him. 128 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 6: Maybe they think somebody will be death brit and come 129 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 6: around and they could get a draft pick. Because that 130 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 6: is obvious that they're not interested in, and you know 131 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 6: how quarterbacks get hurt and things are happening, somebody might go, man, 132 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 6: we need a spark, we need something. Let's do something. 133 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 6: Let's let's get energizing, franchised. Let's just go for it. 134 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 6: Let's just throw. 135 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: Caution against the wind right and go get your door. 136 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 6: And then the fan base, oh my god, you know 137 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 6: we're owing for but you're the Jets and you just decided, hey, 138 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 6: let's let's give. 139 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: Your door the reins. 140 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 6: You know you're not gonna get anythings going with Justin Fields, 141 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 6: or you realize maybe he's just. 142 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: He is what he is, you know what I mean, 143 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: and he's not going to. 144 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 6: Be anything long term, and maybe you make a decision 145 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 6: like that, and that's something that could happen, and they say, hey, 146 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 6: we need a third round pick or fourth or a 147 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: couple of picks or something, and then that fifth round pick. 148 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: Turns into tou capital, you know what I mean. 149 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 6: For Cleveland, that could be the only reason, because they 150 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 6: keep them there. They let Zappie Bailey Zapi on the 151 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 6: practice splitting reps with Shador, which you don't see that happen, 152 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 6: and none of it makes any sense to me. 153 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: So also it has to be. 154 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 6: And I do want to bring one last thing up. 155 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 6: I think you were part of it. You know Eric 156 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 6: Dickerson and all his conspiracy about the NFL, and I 157 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 6: think you guys were all wrong with the reporting that 158 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 6: says that the Eagles and the Ravens were both interested 159 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 6: and told not to draft him, that he didn't want 160 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 6: to go there. So there was all this, and you know, 161 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 6: Eric Dickerson had a reporter that he talked to people 162 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 6: and they blackballed them and the league didn't We're gonna 163 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 6: show him. I never bought into that, and I think 164 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 6: the reporting points that out that this was Shador. Schador 165 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 6: was the one who did not want, you know what, 166 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 6: I mean, to go to the Ravens or go to 167 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 6: some other the Eagles where they have two star quarterbacks, 168 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 6: and he didn't want to go there. So this is 169 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 6: where we are. That makes more sense on why he 170 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 6: dropped to me when you add that reporting. 171 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 5: But I'll still say this, talent wise, I absolutely believe 172 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 5: that he was not a fifth round pick. 173 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: I'll I'll die on that. 174 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: Heels They say, could it be again his meetings or 175 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: some other things that very. 176 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: Wasn't a sixth round pick. It wasn't great. Tom Brady 177 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: wasn't great college. Tom Brady played quarterback at Michigan. 178 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 5: He was I saw every one of his snaps. He was, 179 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: he was good, he was hitting great. 180 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 6: Okay, But you make it like you make it like 181 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 6: it's like Joe Montana was a fourth round pick. You 182 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 6: make it like, oh my god, how about uh what 183 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 6: the Rams quarterback wasn't even drafted? 184 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner? 185 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 5: Wait, what do you what? You're throwing me off? What 186 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: do you I don't even get what you're saying. My 187 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 5: point is you make it. 188 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 6: You make it as if like it's an exact science, 189 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: and guys like a Kurt Warner wasn't drafted or Tom 190 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 6: Brady was there making it like oh no, but no. 191 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 6: My point is that you're talking about, oh, for sure 192 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 6: he was this, or that I don't believe that. 193 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: It's nobody knows. Nobody knows. 194 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 5: But the reason why this was a big deal and 195 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 5: you had guys who've been doing this for thirty forty 196 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 5: years losing their minds, it's because we've never seen this. 197 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 5: Rob You gotta at least admit that we always have 198 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 5: a sleeper. A guy comes out the blue, a fifth round, 199 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 5: fourth round, sixth round, undrafted. 200 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: That happens all the time you get your rock parties. 201 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 5: But we don't have guys who are projected as a 202 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 5: first rounder drop to the fifth round unless there's something 203 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 5: that happens, some violent thing in their past or something 204 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 5: like that comes up. 205 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: That's what made this unusual. 206 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 207 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: the nation. 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But 229 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 5: going into this series Rob, I was thinking what's left 230 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 5: to be desired? 231 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: What's left for him to do? 232 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 5: Before you know, we really start to strongly have these 233 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 5: considers greatest ever. But I won't also just say ever, 234 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 5: because baseball been around one hundred and fifty years whatever 235 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 5: it is, so you know, I don't know what guys 236 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: are doing in nineteen eleven, but at least in the 237 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 5: relative last forty to fifty sixty years, because it's just 238 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: been remarkable what he's been able to do. Rob, and 239 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 5: I started to think, what is actually left for him 240 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: to be done? Right, you start to dig into all 241 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 5: of the things that he's already done. 242 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: When you look at the awards. 243 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 5: When you look at the accolades, it's actually insane what 244 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 5: he has. So if you look at the MVPs, we 245 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 5: know how many, we know he looks like he's gonna 246 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: win another one, which would be just be absolutely incredible. 247 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 5: And then you start to look at now, he's always 248 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 5: a three time MVP, probably gonna be four, five time 249 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: All Star, three times Silver Slugger, Rookie of the Year, 250 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 5: World Series title last year with the Dodgers, and I 251 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 5: was thinking, if he goes into this postseason in the 252 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 5: run that you know the Dodgers are hoping to have. 253 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 5: To me, Rob, this will be one of the biggest 254 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: things left for him to last season they win the 255 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 5: World Series. 256 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: He was solid. You and I talked about it wasn't great, 257 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 4: was solid? 258 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: Okay, if he can go into this world, this postseason 259 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 5: run and potentially World Series run, and he's a main 260 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 5: cog kind of how Freddie Freeman was for them and 261 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: started off last night two home runs, if he has 262 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: one of those Barry Bonds, even though Barry Bonds didn't 263 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 5: win the World Series. But you know, he's just hitting 264 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 5: home runs. They're pitching around him. He's just dominant. And 265 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: then OHSOEO. Tony has a couple of games where he 266 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: pitched six seven great innings, one run or shutout innings. 267 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: At a certain point, to me, Rob start to have 268 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 5: the conversation of where is he in the greatest of 269 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 5: all time? 270 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 4: Because what won't be left to be done. MVP's All Star. 271 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 5: He's pitching at a high level, could be starting on 272 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 5: any and every team win the World Series, potentially when 273 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: a couple have a huge role in the World Series. 274 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 5: I'm seriously asking you. You've been covering baseball since nineteen 275 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 5: eighty six. I've enjoyed the game my whole life. It's 276 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: just been remarkable. And I think we're taking for granted 277 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 5: what we're witness team because we celebrated for one hundred 278 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 5: years what Babe Ruth did and now he's doing it 279 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 5: at an even higher level. 280 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: And it's just like we're almost like, oh, it's normal. 281 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 5: Stealing fifty bases, fifty innings, you know, fifty strikeouts, a 282 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 5: fifty five home runs? 283 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: Like what can he do? And it's just been incredible 284 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: to me. 285 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 5: Walk me off the ledge because I think I'm looking 286 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 5: at the best baseball player I've ever seen. 287 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: Tell me I'm crazy. I think you're crazy. 288 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 6: And basically it's because baseball, unlike some other sports, how 289 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 6: there's a longevity that goes with baseball. And it's not 290 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 6: that he hasn't excelled. Okay, and I'll give you the 291 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 6: perfect example. 292 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 4: You don't even need to go far and lost. 293 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 6: Everybody told me Mike Trout was going to be the 294 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 6: greatest player ever with his start to his career. Am 295 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: I wrong on that? 296 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 4: No? He was right there. 297 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 6: And now Mike Trout is not considered that anymore because 298 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 6: what of his health. Because it's great how you start, 299 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 6: it depends on how you finish. There's a there's a 300 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 6: long road to go in Major League Baseball. You don't 301 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 6: you don't have an eight year career and that's all 302 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 6: you look at. You just talked about he made five 303 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 6: All Star Games. Hank Aaron made twenty five All Star Games. 304 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 6: You hear me, twenty five. And so it's not that 305 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 6: I'm discounting him. I don't think he's a great player. 306 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: What makes me pump the brakes on him is I 307 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 6: think he's not the greatest pitcher and he's not the 308 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 6: greatest hitter. 309 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: This year, go look at. 310 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 6: His numbers, and you could just look at the fifty 311 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 6: five homewards he batted under three hundred. Right after last 312 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 6: year he batted above three hundred. He had fifty stolen 313 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 6: bas last year, not as many this year. Obviously, he 314 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 6: pitched this year, didn't pitch last year. So I get 315 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 6: that there were things that were involved, and then we 316 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 6: have to see where his pitching leads him. He's had 317 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 6: numerous injuries. Correct, right, what if he's shelved again and 318 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 6: has to have another surgery on his arm, then that 319 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: takes him out of the mix of the pitching thing. 320 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 6: As long as that's a thing, and that's a part 321 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 6: of his equation, Calvin, I'll give you that that He's 322 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 6: always going to be looked that way without the pitching, 323 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 6: and it's just him as a hitter, think that other 324 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,479 Speaker 6: people are in play. He's not the best hitter in baseball. 325 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 6: He's not Aaron Judges power and average. Aaron Judge is 326 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 6: a better hitter than show Hal. 327 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: Tim disagree. 328 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: I will give you that Aaron Judges, but I do 329 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 5: feel like when I need a hit, I would probably 330 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 5: take show Hal. If you told me this game game seven, 331 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 5: you know bat, I'm gonna take shows. 332 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 6: But I'm just saying off the numbers. I mean you're 333 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 6: talking about situational. 334 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: I'm talking about Yeah, I'll give you the numbers, just 335 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: year to year, hit to hit, back to at bat. 336 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 4: I'll give you that with Aaron Judge, but you don't know. 337 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 6: What I'm saying that doesn't mean that he's a because 338 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 6: that No, no, no, I'm just saying, you know, and 339 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 6: then how many you don't. 340 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: Have to and hey Aaron, No, no, no, yeah, three hitter? No. 341 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 6: But the idea is, if you're gonna say somebody is 342 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 6: the greatest of all time, did I? There's gotta be 343 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: more to it. There are other players we can't discount. Yes, 344 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 6: they didn't pitch, and get I get the pitching part. 345 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 6: If he wins a cy Young and an MVP, I'll 346 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 6: put my microphone down and I'll be quiet, okay, because 347 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 6: then then is there a debate or a question to that. No, 348 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 6: he's been very good as a pitcher, not great. He's 349 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 6: not the greatest pitcher. 350 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: He's not. He's very good. 351 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 5: Here's the thing where you can said he's not the 352 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 5: best hitter. If you say he's not the best. Uh, 353 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 5: if you say he's not the best pitcher. I get that. 354 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: We just talked about Schoob, there's Skins, there's other guys. 355 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: We know that. The thing that makes this interesting, though, Rob, 356 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: is what. 357 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: If he were just like meaning, if the Dodger just 358 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: rolled him up, he just got off injury, you know, 359 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 5: and they rolled him out this year. I don't know 360 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 5: what he might be next year. He might actually be 361 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 5: the best pitcher. 362 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: He might be. 363 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 5: Considered a Siye Young candidate next year. That is not 364 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 5: even far fetch. And when you look at what he's 365 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 5: been able to do this year, so we're well into 366 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 5: the possibility that he could be the best pitcher in 367 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: a particular league in this case NL next year. That's 368 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: not crazy. And then you keep saying he's not the 369 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 5: best hitter, Well, he's arguably the best situational hitter, and 370 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 5: he's right there for the best hitter and overall in baseball. 371 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: So to me, if you're right there in both those positions. 372 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 5: Oh and by the way, he could play outfield if 373 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 5: they needed him in a pinch any moment. And oh, 374 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: by the way, if he really wanted to get still 375 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 5: fifty bases, that's incredible. That's remarkable. And that's to me 376 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 5: why this guy is a freaking unicorn. And that what 377 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 5: do you need me? I need you still basis to 378 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: night for the next couple of weeks. Right now, we 379 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 5: need want to produce some runs, gotcha? Oh, we need you, 380 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 5: as a matter of fact, go six seven to night. 381 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: We need you to pitch. Oh okay, gotcha, Hey, damn man, 382 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: we've had any two home runs? 383 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 6: Okay, so you just you said a situational hitting he's 384 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 6: great or whatever. This past year with runners in scoring position, 385 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 6: he batted two forty seven. It's not great that those 386 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 6: were no numbers for twenty twenty five. So so when 387 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 6: you you know, like I get it, like the numbers 388 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 6: are glossed over because you can see the fifty five 389 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 6: home runs he's batting two eighty five. He has one 390 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 6: hundred RBIs, but that's not a great number, two forty 391 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 6: seven with rudders in scoring position. All I'm saying is 392 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 6: he's a phenomenal player. And if he's able to maintain 393 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 6: and pitch, do I think he's gonna have pitch his 394 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 6: entire career? I do not. 395 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: I don't. 396 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: I really don't. 397 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 6: Given that he's been injured two or three times already, 398 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 6: I think that there's a chance that he won't be 399 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 6: able to do that. Well, I think they are he 400 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 6: stops pitching, he stops pitching. You still wouldn say he 401 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 6: stops pitching after this year, just say or next year? Okay, 402 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 6: And you know it doesn't amount to like big time stats. 403 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: But he stopped. 404 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 6: He did it, but he did, he stops doing it, 405 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 6: becomes Babe Bruce who became just a hit her. Would 406 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 6: you still look at him the same way, say it's 407 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 6: a great player. Ever, if his pitching. 408 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 4: Career got I will have seen enough. 409 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 5: Meaning I saw the dude pitch for six seven years, 410 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 5: however long it would have been at that point you 411 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 5: were playing the game hypothetical anywhere from six to eight 412 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 5: years in MLB at an extremely high level. Then I've 413 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 5: seen him still bases. Then I've seen him play center 414 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 5: field at times. Then I've seen him hit obviously home 415 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 5: runs and sading dodge her. 416 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: That Dodgers setting Dodger records. 417 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: Dude, Yeah, I don't know. He probably That's why I'm saying. 418 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 5: The only other thing I want to see him have 419 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 5: a great playoff rung where he was just on fire, 420 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 5: which could happen this year, would. 421 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: Be amazing to see. 422 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: You know what it is? 423 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: What's his pitching? I couldn't. I didn't hear you. Here's 424 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 4: what now? 425 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 6: Pitching record? What's his record when he pitches? Do you 426 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: know what it is? 427 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: I put no, I'll pull it up right now. 428 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 6: Thirty nine and twenty so he's nineteen games over five hundred, 429 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 6: and he's got a three. 430 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: Earra lifetop good really good. 431 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 6: Since the greatest ever noh is not and that that. 432 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 5: That's where, but that's the bar said he's Sandy KOFACTX. 433 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 5: I didn't say he was Sandy Cofax. I didn't say 434 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 5: he was Barry Bonds. He is the hybrid of those 435 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 5: two almost, which just makes it incredible. If he was 436 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 5: just like a they throw key k her Nanda's out there, 437 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 5: Hey man, we need somebody to go throw, you know, 438 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 5: a few pitchures we're getting blown out to that Roore 439 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 5: blowing the other team and KK because he pitched, you know, 440 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 5: he could throw a little bit. 441 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: Okay, Hi, I'd be cute if that was show. 442 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 5: Hey. No, he's a legitimate starter who's gonna start potentially 443 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 5: in the World Series if they get that is crazy. 444 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 5: And he also might hit a home run in the 445 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 5: World Series. And the fact that what I'm saying is 446 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 5: not far fetch is incredible. And the fact that he 447 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: could maybe still a base in a World Series game 448 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 5: as well, and dad going and if somebody tweaked. 449 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 4: The knee or a hand, and if they need him 450 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: in center field, he can do it. That is insane 451 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: to me, Rob, And I'm again because it's twenty twenty five. 452 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: We have a million things going on in our lives. 453 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: We have a million social media apps and this going on. 454 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 5: If this word circa nineteen ninety two, we would be 455 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 5: talking about they would lead every conversation all day with 456 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 5: this guy does. But because we have a million things 457 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 5: even there's just too much going on in the world, 458 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 5: we're kind of like, oh yeah, by the way, Shohy 459 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 5: is like incredible. 460 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: But we kind of just move on. 461 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 462 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 463 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 464 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: listen live. 465 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: All right, Rob g. 466 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson obviously one of the best players in the NFL, 467 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: having a really good season even though the team isn't 468 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 5: and he's missed a few plays. He had a bad 469 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 5: game against the Chiefs before we ultimately pulled out. Right now, 470 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 5: that hamstring has him down, still questionable if he is 471 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 5: going to play, and therein lies the conversation of well 472 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: what do you do with Lamar Jackson coming up into 473 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 5: this next week as they get ready to face the Texans, 474 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 5: so they'll be hosting the Texans. Texans coming off a 475 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 5: win finally. Texans been struggling throughout the season, and a 476 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 5: lot of people are saying, you know, and I'll start 477 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 5: with me, Rob. 478 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: G One thing we learn in sports, things aren't a guarantee, right. 479 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 5: Things all will have this next year, will be good 480 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 5: next year, the schedule will be easy, next year, will 481 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 5: have our health next year? 482 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: You never really know. 483 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 5: And so to me, I look at the game like 484 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: this for the Ravens, a team that sit at one 485 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 5: and three, as are the Texans, a team that, ultimately 486 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 5: I believe are the team that's kind of usually built 487 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 5: to come back. Rob and I both believe last year 488 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: they were zeroing to they'll be fine, and they were 489 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 5: getting and got to the postseason. But this season feels different. 490 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 5: The defense has been given up way too many points. 491 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: You can score thirty on them easily, no matter who 492 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: you are. You got injuries all up and down the 493 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball. You got obviously a nicked 494 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 5: up Lamar Jackson. So what I'm gonna say, I am 495 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 5: gonna preface with a little bit of great assault of 496 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 5: the only person who knows how injured he is is 497 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, you get what I mean? And if Lamar 498 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 5: Jackson is looking at John Harbud he's like, Yo, I'm 499 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 5: really hurt right now. 500 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 4: Then it's changes the conversation. 501 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: But if it's a hamstring that he can play through, 502 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 5: that he can push through to me, rob G, I'm 503 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 5: gonna make that effort if I'm Lamar Jackson, because you're 504 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 5: sitting at one in three. They're not built with Huntley 505 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 5: as their backup, with any other backup coming in, They're 506 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: not built to win without him. This team, this system, 507 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 5: this offense is run through him. Simply put, it's how 508 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 5: dynamic he is that makes this team go. It's the 509 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 5: ability to run, it's the ability to pass, it's the 510 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: ability to even the thought that gives the. 511 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: Defense to hesitate one to one millisecond. 512 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 5: That then makes them great because guys get open, Zayflowers open, 513 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 5: Andrews is open, then you can hand them off to 514 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 5: Derrick Henry. 515 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: I can't do that without him, and I can't lose. 516 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 5: This game to the Texans who may be feeling themselves 517 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 5: feeling like they can write the ship a little bit. 518 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: And we know what else If the Texans haven't been 519 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 5: anything else. Robb g one thing they've been over the 520 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 5: last couple of years, two three years is good. Defensively, 521 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: you look at the season so far. The Rams barely 522 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 5: beat them, the Rams, who some field could be the 523 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 5: best team in the NFC, they barely beat them fourteen 524 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 5: to nine. The Bucks beat them by one and held 525 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 5: them to twenty. The Jags only had seventeen last week. 526 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: There are two weeks ago, and then the Titans don't 527 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 5: score at all. So my point is, without Lamar is 528 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: a very winnable game for the Texans, specifically how well 529 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 5: their defense is, and also for them feeling like maybe 530 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 5: they can find they found a little thing or two offensively. 531 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: So I don't want to go down one four. 532 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden from the Ravens, you 533 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 5: start to look at the rest of your schedule right 534 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: where you're like, oh, shoot, this gets a little tough 535 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 5: for us. The Ravens have aspirations for Super Bowls for postseasons, 536 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 5: and then you don't want to go up against Then 537 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 5: you got the Rams. The Bears seemed like, you know, 538 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 5: a tougher team, Dolphins could be easy, but then you 539 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: got the Vikings, a tougher team. Then you got a 540 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 5: division of one with the good defensive team, the Browns 541 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: who held you up earlier. You beat them earlier, but 542 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: you never know defensively. And then you'll got some other teams. 543 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 5: The Steelers look like you know their quality. You got 544 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 5: the Packers as well, so you don't want to get 545 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 5: too far behind. To me, so if he looks at 546 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 5: me and he feeling seventy percent, is I want to 547 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 5: go for this because I want to go two and 548 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: three and start to turn this thing around. Because to me, 549 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: with Lamar Jackson, every season as a potential super Bowl 550 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: season and I don't want to waste it and waste 551 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 5: an opportunity. 552 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: That's me. 553 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: You could not be more wrong, k Devi because to 554 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: your point, if Lamar Jackson is only seventy percent, and 555 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: that might be generous, right because they've said as soon 556 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: as he injured his hamstring through reports for multiple weeks, 557 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: you know, two to three weeks he could miss. It 558 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: wasn't until Wednesday morning that Tom Pelacero float out the 559 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: idea that he could try to play, because as you mentioned, 560 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 3: they're so far behind the eight ball and they got 561 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: to get some wins as much as they can. 562 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 4: But if he's only seventy. 563 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: Percent, and let's say he plays against Houston, he gets 564 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: out unscathed, not further injury. He gets to the Rams game, 565 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: and he again avoids further injury. He just kind of 566 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: hangs on. 567 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 4: The chance. 568 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: The thing about hamstrings is they don't get better, right 569 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: like you don't. The only way those kind of soft 570 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: tinged tissue injuries ever heal is with rest. You cannot 571 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: heal a hamstring by playing on it and throttling down 572 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: to fifty percent sixty percent, because number one, you're more 573 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: likely to get hurt playing that way by not playing 574 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: full speed, and number two, when you do try to 575 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: push it, you just physically can't because your hamster's gonna 576 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: tuget you and pull at you. And especially if you're 577 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: a running quarterback or a mobile quarterback like Lamar Jackson 578 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: is the greatest in NFL history, you run the risk 579 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: of re injuring yourself again. So even if he hypothetically 580 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: is able to avoid injuring himself further by playing on it, 581 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: the fact remains is the Baltimore Ravens, to your point, 582 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: are not good enough around Lamar Jackson where they can 583 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: make any noise with him at seventy percent point playing period, 584 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 3: they cannot compete in the AFC with Buffalo and Kansas 585 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: City and the Chargers, or how maybe even Aaron Rodgers 586 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: is dude, I don't think that's gonna happen, but you 587 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: cannot compete in the AFC with Lamar is not healthy, 588 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: Which is why I believe you sit him this Sunday, 589 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: no matter what he tells you. If he says, Coach, 590 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. I know I can't really run 591 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: that much, but I'm ready to give you all I can. 592 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna win here against Houston. I believe from what 593 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: we've seen with Houston the last year or so that 594 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: as bad as that Baltimore defense is, they can do 595 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: enough to shut down CJ. Stroud and company. We talked 596 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: about it up until last week when they were only 597 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: have six to nothing at half. Then this offensive explosion 598 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: there in the second half, aided by a lot of 599 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: really poor play by Tennessee. They hadn't crossed the twenty 600 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: point threshold in seven of their previous nine games. So 601 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 3: I believe with Cooper Rush under center and his career 602 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: two to one interception to touchdown, ratio or touchdown interception 603 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 3: like you have that backwards, they can win that game. 604 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 4: They can get to two and three. 605 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: Now, obviously, playing the Rams is a whole different monster. 606 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: Not only would they be a problem with Lamar jacksony 607 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: obviously be a problem without Lamar Jackson because that wars 608 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: nasty Jared Versus on the edge, and those guys like 609 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 3: they can really bring the pass rushing away, and not 610 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: a lot of teams can across the NFL. But if 611 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: you can sit Lamar through those two games, and let's 612 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: say you split, you head into your bye week at 613 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: two and four, you come out of it ideally with 614 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: the healthy Lamar Jackson three weeks rested. You got the 615 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 3: Bears at home, the Dolphins on the road, which you're 616 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: not scared of them at all. You got the Vikings, 617 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: which could be plucky. Obviously that could be a tough team. 618 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: Then you got the Browns, the Jets, the Bengals, the Steelers, 619 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: the Bengals, the Patriots. None of those teams make me 620 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: nervous if I'm a Baltimore Ravens fan, because coming into 621 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: this season, they were the popular pick for popular people 622 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl. So even if they don't 623 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: have all their horses defensively, or even if they don't 624 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: have the peak Baltimore Ravens, we thought they're getting even 625 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: eighty percent of them is good enough to run the 626 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: table pretty well down the second half of the season. 627 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: So if you rest Lamar, get him to one hundred 628 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: percent and let him carry you the rest of the way, 629 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: the same way Joe Burrow did last season. I know 630 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 3: it didn't really work out the even to get to 631 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: the playoffs caause what happened on the tie breakers. But 632 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: if you get to two and four into the bye week, 633 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, get you to ten wins, and ten wins 634 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: will be enough to get in the posty in the AFC. 635 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: And then and then you hope that you have enough 636 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: there where he's good enough on any given Sunday to 637 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: be the difference. 638 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: Between you winning and losing. So that was cute. 639 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 5: Here's the thing, all right, I'm looking at a team 640 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 5: where defensively, if I'm Lamar Jackson, right, you put up 641 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 5: the forty bill, say that's cute. We put up forty 642 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 5: one the Browns. Obviously you beat them Browns of the Browns. 643 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: Obviously that Rounds have a good defense. But they're struggling 644 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 5: right now. Dalen Gabriel, we don't know what that experiment's 645 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 5: going to be. You put up thirty you still, Lion, 646 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 5: say that's cute. 647 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: We got thirty eight. The Chiefs put up thirty seven 648 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: on your head. 649 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 5: The reason I say this is because you talk about 650 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: the Texans, but the Texans are licking their chop at 651 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 5: the Ravens defense. The Texans and said, let me tell 652 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 5: you who I'm looking forward to playing this week. If 653 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 5: I could pick a team, you would think, historically surely 654 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 5: wouldn't be the Ravens. They're like, let us pick the 655 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 5: Ravens because even with Lamar, okay, he's gonna score, but 656 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 5: we got a chance to score because they're giving up 657 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 5: big points. In fact, again the last couple of games 658 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 5: thirty seven points, thirty eight points, and even a forty 659 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 5: one piece two weeks before that. So the Texans feel like, 660 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: if there's anyone that we can put up some points 661 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 5: against rob g it would be the Ravens. 662 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 4: Now. 663 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 5: Also, you talk about soft tissue handstrings all that, well, 664 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 5: guess what he's gonna be dealing with the remainder of 665 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 5: the year a hamstring issue. Because there's no such thing 666 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 5: as well. I gave it two to three weeks ahead 667 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 5: and bye a week and a Hamstreet print. No hamstrings 668 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 5: are gonna bother you are gonna bother you are gonna 669 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: bother you. 670 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: Now, Yes, that's why I said. There's degrees right, there's 671 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: I don't there's full really really pulled. 672 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 5: And doctor's like, yo, you're absolutely gonna shred this thing. 673 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 5: Then there's all right. It's gonna hurt, and to be 674 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 5: honest with you, is probably gonna hurt for a very 675 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 5: long time. 676 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: But we can manage it. 677 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 5: You can. We can put some tape on it, give 678 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 5: you some payments. It's gonna be a bothersome thing throughout 679 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: the season. I have a feeling that's what this is 680 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: gonna be. So the idea that I rest them a 681 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 5: week or so isn't really gonna do much because what 682 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 5: you said, anybody who's had a bad back, anybody who's 683 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 5: had a hamstring, anybody who's had these certain types of issues. 684 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 4: I'm about to deal with this until I can sit 685 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: my butt down for six eight weeks and really rest it. 686 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 5: And again I hear what you're saying, I really do, like, 687 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 5: why wouldn't I want to rest my best player, the guy, 688 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 5: the franchise player. 689 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 4: My concern is you lose to the Texans. 690 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 5: Now you're one and four, you surely like now to 691 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 5: your point, oh well, then maybe we wrestling with the Rams. 692 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 5: I can't wrestle with the Ram because Rams doesn't for 693 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 5: sure loss. If Lamar ain't playing, now you're one in 694 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: five season is done. So to me, these next two 695 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 5: weeks are critical and the only chance I have of 696 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 5: winning is with Lamar Jackson, even if I hand it 697 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 5: off the ball, God forbid. By the way John Harmon 698 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 5: right hand the ball off twenty five thirty. You have 699 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 5: the most built forward guy in the NFL, and Dereck 700 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 5: Henry if I just showed you him, if you fell 701 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 5: from Mars, I said, look at this specimen, and you say, yeah, 702 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: let's give him five carries. Look, that's crazy. So point 703 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: being Lamar Jackson being out there wink wink, kind of 704 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 5: sort of being a decoy and we run the heck 705 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 5: out of the ball could change things a little bit 706 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 5: for them where he doesn't have to be so dynamic 707 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 5: as you mentioned. But I can't sit him and lose 708 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 5: to the Texans, and I can't lose sen him and 709 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 5: lose to the Rams. Now my season is done and 710 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 5: you just don't want to wait seasons. 711 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 4: With a guy like Okay, humor me. 712 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: Do you believe even after what we see with their 713 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: defense do the first month of the season, do you 714 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: believe with the healthy Lamar Jackson that the Ravens you 715 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: still make a run in the Super Bowl? 716 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: Yes? Because Lamar literally like him and with Henry, they're 717 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: that dynamic. Again. 718 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 5: You put up thirty on the lines, you put a 719 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 5: forty on the bills, you know what I mean? You 720 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 5: put you can win a shoot at the ball? Yes, Okay. 721 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: Do you think with a seventy sixty five percent Lamar 722 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: Jackson they can win the Super Bowl? 723 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: Make the Super Bowl? Likely? 724 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 7: No? 725 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 4: So then what are we doing here? Are we gonna 726 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 4: race to go eight to eight? 727 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: No? 728 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: No, eight and seven? 729 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 4: Seventeen games? Gosh, eight and nine? 730 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: I know, right, Louise, Like, if the goal is to 731 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl, which is where they are in Baltimore, 732 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: They're not in the business of just being solid. They 733 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: are not my Raiders. We're like, hey, if we make 734 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: the playoffs, that's a good year for us. Like, no, 735 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: they are in the business of winning, and they have 736 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: what I believe in. You believe a lot of people 737 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: believe to be the best player in football, point blank 738 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: in Lamar Jackson. And when you have that kind of 739 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: guy on your team, the expectation is if we're not 740 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: gonna win the Super Bowl, we're at least competing for 741 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: it year in and year out. And if Lamar Jackson 742 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: is not healthy, you are not competing for a Super Bowl. 743 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 4: So what are we doing? Are we just trying to 744 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 4: be relevant? Would we like to be the Utah Jazz 745 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: of football? No, we want to win the whole damn thing, 746 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: and we can't win the thing if he's not he's 747 00:33:59,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 4: not help. 748 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 5: Here's the thing, though, I hear you and another normal 749 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 5: circumstances unders saying what you're getting, And again I don't 750 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 5: think you're I don't think you're crazy for this. But 751 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 5: my thought process is, and we're watching this right now 752 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 5: with the Eagles. Who was the best running back in 753 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 5: the NFL last year, Kwon Barkley, who is the most 754 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 5: mid running back right now in the NFL. 755 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 4: Not Bolling wise, per se. 756 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 5: But it just isn't working right now right Maybe he 757 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 5: lost the step, Maybe the offensive line isn't as great. 758 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 5: Maybe it's all the above. Maybe it's generally hurts and 759 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 5: they don't know exactly how they want to run into. 760 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 5: My point is, I can't come into it next year 761 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 5: knowing Zay Flowers. 762 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 4: Maybe I have to pick. Maybe he wants more. 763 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 5: Maybe Andrews is a year he starts to getting his 764 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey bag where he ain't what he used to be. 765 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 4: Right. 766 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 5: Also, maybe Dereck Henry finally has the decline. He will 767 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 5: be what thirty two is or something like that by 768 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: the next year. So my point is, I hear what 769 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 5: you're saying, but I can't go, oh, next year will 770 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 5: be low. You just never simply know. And that's the 771 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 5: dangerous thing when you're playing the the You know, in 772 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 5: a sport where it's not a baseball season, what do 773 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 5: I do? 774 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 4: Man? 775 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 5: You go on an eye up and down on the 776 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 5: ile all the year long, right because we got a 777 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 5: long season basketball, Man, take a month off. We got 778 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 5: a long season football. You miss four or five six games, 779 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 5: it can change things. So I don't think what you're 780 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 5: saying is crazy, and I don't think it's asinine, and 781 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people might feel that way. 782 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: I just feel if Lamar gives me a look like 783 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 4: he's ready to go. Dang it. 784 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 5: I can win a couple of games, kind of get 785 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 5: get some things going, because again, I don't want to 786 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 5: waste the season with Lamar Jackson. And I look up 787 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 5: and it's another season where he was incredibly talented and 788 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 5: blah blah blah, and we have nothing to show for it.