1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Amy Morris. Here are the 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 3: Amy, we begin with breaking developments in the war in 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: the Middle East. The US has now conducted military strikes, 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: and we get more from Bloomberg's Rosalind mathieson. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 4: The US has struck two targets, they say inside Syria. 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 4: They say they were aiming at Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 4: and basically a warning again to some of these proxy 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 4: groups that are operating in the region potential on behalf 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: of Iran, because what we've seen is an escalation the 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 4: pattern of attacks or targeting of US military assets in 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 4: the region. 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Rosalind Mathison says Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin is characterized 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: in the US strikes as separate and distinct from the 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: Israel Hamas war. 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: And Nathan the strikes come as Iran's born minister warned 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: the US won't be spared if the war between Israel 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: and Hamas spreads. Born Minister Hossain Amir abdo Lahi and 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: delivered the threat in a speech to the United Nations 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: General Assembly. 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: We do not welcome to expansion of the war in 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 5: the region, but are you all If the genocide in 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 5: Gasse continues, they will not be spared from this fire. 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: The comments by Iran's foreign minister comes as Israel says 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: it sent troops on a limited raid into Gaza for 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: the second straight night. 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: Now amy to the latest on the deadly mass shooting 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: in Maine, an intense search continues for Robert Card, the 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: forty year old Army reservist accused of killing eighteen people 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: inside a bowling alley and bar in the city of Lewiston. 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: The city's mayor, Carl Shalen, is telling people to stay 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: off the streets. 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 6: This is the time for action, solidarity and support. Please 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 6: take note the shelter and place order issued by the 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 6: Lewiston Police Department remains in effect. Please stay at home 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: and be safe. 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: Lewiston Mayor Carl Shalen says much of the focus has 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: been one of cards relatives' homes in the rural town 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: of Boden f Behind. Other agents surrounded the property, ordering 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: anyone in Scientist surrender after several hours, though state police 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: said it was not clear if anyone had been there. 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: The newly anointed Speaker of the House is commenting about 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: the latest deadly shooting. Mike Johnson does not think it's 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: a gun problem the end. 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 7: Of the day, it's the problem is the human heart. 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 7: It's not guns, not the weapons. At the end of 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 7: the day, we have to protect the right of the 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 7: citizens to protect themselves and that's the Second Amendment and 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 7: that's why our party sends show strongly for that. 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: Speaker Johnson made the comments in an interview with Fox's 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 2: Sean Hennity and said that now is not the time 53 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: for new gun laws. 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: I Meanwhile, Amy the House passed its first major piece 55 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: of legislation since Johnson became Speaker, and it flies in 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: the face of President Biden's emphasis on energy efficiency. Bloomberg 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: zed Baxter has the story. 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 8: It cuts into the Inflation Reduction Act, which incentivized homeowners 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 8: to switch to more energy efficient appliances, and into money 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 8: that helps stage craft more stringent building energy codes. The 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 8: effect of this which strip billions of dollars put aside 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 8: for consumer rebates. Speaker Mike Johnson in the past has 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 8: criticized the spending on climate and clean energy measures as 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 8: green energy slush funds. It's not expected to pass the 65 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 8: Senate or get a Biden's signature ad Baxter Bloomberg Radio, Thank. 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: You ed Now. An update on the trial of Sam 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: Bankman Freed. The FDx founder, spent almost three hours trying 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: to convince a judge to allow him to testify to 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: a jury about the role lawyers played in the collapse 70 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: of the crypto exchange. Bloomberg's Bob van Vories is covering 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: the case in Lower Manhattan. 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 9: He spent the entire afternoon on the spand but he 73 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 9: was previewing testimony that he wants to give relating to 74 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 9: advice that he got from lawyers. So Judge Kaplan is 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 9: listened to the testimony. It's going to rule in the morning. 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 9: What the jury gets to hear. They got sent home 77 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 9: after lunch. 78 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Bob van Voris says, Bank and Freed's team is 79 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: trying to show many of the transactions are the subject 80 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: of criminal charges conducted in the full view of lawyers. 81 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: Turning to markets, Amy Watch and shares of Amazon, they 82 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: are hired by more than five percent in early trading. 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: The company gave investors a lot of what they wanted 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: this earning season, robust sales and profit growth, along with 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: a hint that the cloud division earnings machine is regaining momentum. 86 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: Matthew Bloxham is a tech analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. 87 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 10: They are the leader in cloud, so there's a huge 88 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 10: number of corporates who already use them for cloud, and 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 10: those corporates are all scrambling to get into the genes 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 10: of AI space, so they're kind of looking to train 91 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 10: models and use them in applications. 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Intelligence, as Matt Bloxham says, cloud unit sales increase 93 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: twelve percent. More than twenty three billion dollars. 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: Shares of Intel also on the move, up nearly eight percent. 95 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: The chip maker is predicting a return to sales growth 96 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. Intel says it's being fueled by 97 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: an improving personal computer market and a more competitive product line. 98 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: Turning to the economy, Amy Janet Yellen says the surgeon 99 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: treasury yields is tied to the strength of the economy 100 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: rather than the widening fiscal deficit. We spoke with the 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary in Washington. 102 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 11: We're seeing yields go up in most advanced countries. Part 103 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 11: of the increase in yields, I think is simply a 104 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 11: reflection of the strength of the economy the notion that 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 11: interest rates will be higher for longer. 106 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: Secretary Yellen says the trends that had produced low levels 107 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: for yields before the pandemic are still there. For the 108 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: full conversation, head to our Bloomberg Talks podcast feed find 109 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: it wherever you get your podcasts. And right now we 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: find the tenure treasury yield at four point eight six percent, 111 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: the two years at five point zero four, and futures 112 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: are surging. This morning, this is Bloomberg Time now to 113 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: take a look at some of the other stories making 114 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: news in New York and around the world. For that, 115 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: I'm joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 116 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 12: Good morning, Michael, Good morning, Nathan. Representative George Santos's scheduled 117 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 12: to be a rain this morning on more charges filed 118 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 12: earlier this month. According to prosecutor, Santos allegedly stole identities 119 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 12: and made purchases on the credit cards of his donors. Meanwhile, 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 12: there is a push from New York Republicans to expel 121 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 12: Santos from Congress. Representative Anthony Desposito says Santos is not 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 12: fit to serve as constituents. As a United States representative. 123 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 13: People have seen over the last ten months what a 124 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 13: fraud he is. I mean, you know, you read either indictment, 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 13: there's a clear outline that lays out the fabrications, the lies, 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 13: the manipulation of donors and others that he has committed 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 13: over the last year or longer. 128 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 12: Audio courtesy of Forbes. D Esposito's resolution would need two 129 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 12: thirds of the House to expel the Long Island Congressman. Meanwhile, Santos, 130 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 12: who says he will not step down, responded on social 131 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 12: media saying that he is entitled to due process and 132 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 12: not a predetermined outcome as some are seeking. The NYPD 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 12: is on high alerts in case the suspected main mass 134 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 12: shooter tries to enter the tri state area. While there 135 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 12: is no evidence that suspect Robert Card is coming to 136 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 12: New York, it comes at a time when already counter 137 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 12: terrorism officers are on the streets because of the crisis 138 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 12: in the Middle East, and MYPD Commissioner Rebecca Winer, we 139 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 12: don't see. 140 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 14: Any neccess to New York City with this incident, tragic 141 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 14: as it was, but we've been saying this a lot 142 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 14: over the last couple of weeks, and we always do 143 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 14: we urge all New Yorkers to continue to go about 144 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 14: your business, but to remain alert to your surroundings. 145 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 12: Commissioner Winer join Mayor Eric Adams at a news conference 146 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 12: to discuss safety in the city. Amid the active search 147 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 12: for card There will be more than one hundred car 148 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 12: free streets to keep trick or treaters safe in New 149 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 12: York City this Halloween. The Trick or Streets Initiative is 150 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 12: being expanded to give access to pedestrians for safe spaces 151 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 12: across the five boroughs. The initiative that kicked off October 152 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 12: fourteenth at fifteen locations, where we expanded starting tomorrow, Global 153 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 12: news twenty four hours a day and whenever you want 154 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 12: it with Bloomberg News Now. I'm Michael Barr. 155 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Natha Tricker Streets. 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Time now for 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by tri State Outy. 165 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: Good morning, John stash Hour, Good morning. Eighth in this. 166 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 15: World series with two unlikely teams begins tonight. Both Arizona 167 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 15: and Texas lost over one hundred games just two years ago. 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 15: Both snuck into the postseason as a wild card, but 169 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 15: are nine and three allthough. 170 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 12: The Rangers are one and three at home eight no 171 00:08:58,920 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 12: on the road. Ain't arly. 172 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 15: They start Nathan Evaldi, who's four and oh in the postseason. 173 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 15: The Diamondbacks start Zach Gallon. The Bills are four and oh. 174 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 15: In Buffalo, they never trailed, beat the Bucks twenty four 175 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 15: to eighteen. Josh Allen threw for two touchdowns ran for another. 176 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 15: The Jets and Giants first played each other in nineteen 177 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 15: seventy Sunday's game only the fifteenth regular season meeting ever. 178 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 15: Giants lead the series eight to six. Jets have won 179 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 15: the last two. Last Giants win was twenty eleven. They 180 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 15: won the Super Bowl that year. Here's Jets coach Rob Sala. 181 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 16: I'm excited about You said it's once every four years. 182 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 16: Maybe there's a crossover now at the seventeenth game. But 183 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 16: you know, I think it's really cool for the fans. 184 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 16: I think it's great for sports talk radio and all 185 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 16: the different newspaper outlets and all that. But you know, 186 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 16: it's a championship opportunity. You know, a lot of respect 187 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 16: for them. They've got a tremendous history. 188 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 15: Of Salla's backup running back is veteran Dalvin Cook plays 189 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 15: behind Breeze Hall. Cook says he's frustrated being the backup, 190 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 15: might want a trade before next week's deadline. A five 191 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 15: game road trip for the Rangers. They won the first 192 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 15: three and of a lot only two goals the shutout 193 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 15: for Jonathan Quick and Edmonton. Rangers won three nothing. Islanders 194 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 15: beat Atawa three two. Damian Lillard's first game for the 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 15: Bucks in Milwaukee port in thirty nine points and a 196 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 15: one point win over the Sixers. The Lakers, bree Phoenix 197 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 15: Nixon Nets began with losses at home. They're on the 198 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 15: road tonight, Nicks in Atlanta. Nets are in Dallas. They'll 199 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 15: face the X next. 200 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: Tyler RD Johns, Dashawl Bloomberg Sports Nathan. All right, John, Thanks. 201 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Sports is brought to you by Audi. Don't let 202 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: someone else drive off in the Audi model you've always wanted. 203 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: Visit your local Tri state AUDI dealer to get behind 204 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: the wheel of yours today, or visit audioffers dot com 205 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: for more information. A debrief on the Israel Hamas War. Next, 206 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: we're gonna check in with Bloomberg's Israel Bureau chief Ethan 207 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: Brunner in Tel Aviv, from. 208 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 12: Coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, Boston 209 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 12: to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias XAM, the Bloomberg Business 210 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 12: app in Bloomberg dot com. 211 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. The 212 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: world is watching for the next phase in the Israel 213 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: Hamas War. Israel has carried out ground rates in Gaza 214 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: for a second straight night, and now the US is 215 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: targeting are striking targets in Syria that it says have 216 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: been used by Iran and its proxy groups for the 217 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: latest We are joined by Bloomberg's Israel Bureau chief Ethan 218 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: Bronner in Tel Aviv. Ethan, good morning. What more can 219 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: we say now about this latest military activity, not just 220 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: by Israel but now apparently the United States. 221 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 17: Yes, well, I mean, what we can say is that 222 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 17: these are a small piece of evidence of the risk 223 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 17: of a spreading conflict, of the fact that Iranian proxies 224 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 17: around the region, not just Hamas in Gaza, are at work, 225 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 17: and that a combined force of Israel in the United 226 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 17: States seeking to sort of keep them in their place, 227 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 17: as it were, as opposed to letting it get truly 228 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 17: out of hand. The Americans have absolutely heightened their military 229 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 17: profile in the region. The Eisenhower is on the way 230 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 17: to the Eastern metag should be here by Monday. There's 231 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 17: a whole bunch of Patriot missiles, a whole bunch of 232 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 17: troops as well, and Israel is trying to decide what 233 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 17: it's going to do in Gaza. I think it's become 234 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 17: an increasingly anguished decision because of those two hundred plus hostages, 235 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 17: because of the concern that victory is hard to define, 236 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 17: and because even though people are humiliated and furious about 237 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 17: what happened in October seventh, the question of how many 238 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 17: casualties Israel truly wants to take in this far from clear. 239 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: And to that point, Ethan there has to be some 240 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: thinking on the Israeli part about how to continue to 241 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: keep Allied support given how fierce the response has been 242 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: on the Israeli side following that October seventh attack by Hamas. 243 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 17: Look, I think that's true, I mean absolutely. I wrote 244 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 17: a story a couple of days ago about the sense 245 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 17: that Israel has that it is increasingly alone in its 246 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 17: view of the legitimacy of what it's doing. It's not 247 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 17: alone alone, and that the United States has been a 248 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 17: standing shoulder or shoulder with it. The Europeans have come 249 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 17: through and have said, we feel your pain, we understand, 250 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 17: we agree AMAS is a terrible organization needs to be dismantled. 251 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 17: But what does that really mean? And at what cost? 252 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 17: And what about these seven thousand dead people in Gaza? 253 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 17: And I think even the United States feels a way, 254 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 17: and even people in Israel to some extent are beginning 255 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 17: to ask what does it mean to do? What is 256 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 17: the right thing to do? And I don't think they've 257 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 17: figured it out. There is a sense here that unless 258 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 17: AMAS is ultimately dismantled, that that life here will not 259 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 17: be tolerable, that people will not stay, people not live 260 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 17: along the border, and that is not something that's acceptable. 261 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 17: But what does it mean on what time and what 262 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 17: time frame Israel needs to do this, I think is 263 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 17: the key. In addition to the concern that Hisbella and 264 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 17: other Iranian back groups could enter the frame and. 265 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: At the same time, Ethan, we've heard from Israel that 266 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: the strikes that have been carried out have continued to 267 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: take out HUMAS leadership. I think one of the latest 268 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: reports was that a deputy director of HUMAS has been 269 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: killed in one of the latest strikes. Is there a 270 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: sense that taking out the leadership is achieving some of 271 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: the objectives that Israel is setting out here? 272 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 17: Well, I mean, I don't know that we're there yet. 273 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 17: That's absolutely Israel's contention. And they've set up, in fact, 274 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 17: within the security system a kind of a squad that's 275 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 17: going to take it upon itself over the next year 276 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 17: or two or three to take guys out who've led HUMAS, 277 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 17: whether they're in Gaza or in Katar, or in Lebanon 278 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 17: or in Turkey. There's a kind of assassination squad that's 279 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 17: been set up, and they're also going after them inside. 280 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 17: Does it make a difference, It must make a difference, 281 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 17: But you know, they're spread around. There are a lot 282 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 17: of them, and it's very hard to the impression one 283 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 17: gets at the moment is that it's sort of middle 284 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 17: management that they've been able to get, not the top guys. 285 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 17: So I don't know how big a difference it's making. 286 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: Appreciate you coming back on with us, Ethan, and keeping 287 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: us up to speed on all the developments that have 288 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: been happening in the Israel Humas War now with these 289 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: US strikes into Syria as well. Ethan Browner are Israel 290 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: bureau chief for Bloomberg News, joining us this morning from 291 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: Tel Aviv. And now we want to turn to a 292 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: conversation with Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen. She joined Bloomberg Washington 293 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: Bureau chief Peggy Collins for a wide ranging conversation after 294 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: we saw a third quarter GDP in the US grow 295 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: at its fastest pace in nearly two years. Secretary Yellen 296 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: talked about that blowout economic figure as well as rising 297 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: bond yields and geopolitical risks. Let's go to part of 298 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: that discussion. 299 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 11: Now, it's a good strong number and it shows an 300 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 11: economy that's doing very well. Let's remember it is just 301 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 11: one quarter's number, and I'm not expecting a growth at 302 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 11: that pace to continue. But we do have good, solid growth. 303 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 11: You know, probably the year will come in close to 304 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 11: two and a half. I wouldn't be surprised if we 305 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 11: see that we have solid job creation, a low unemployment rate, 306 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 11: increased engagement in the labor force, inflation's coming down, and 307 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 11: you don't really see any sign of recession here. 308 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 18: I have to say, I've been saying. 309 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 11: For a long time that I believed there was a 310 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 11: path to bring inflation down in the context of a 311 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 11: strong labor market. Frankly, it's only it's about a year 312 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 11: ago since I believe a Bloomberg model predicted that by 313 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 11: October of. 314 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 18: Twenty twenty three. 315 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 11: Now, namely that you saw at the odds of recession 316 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 11: at one hundred percent. 317 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 18: I don't think we have that. You know, what we 318 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 18: have looks like. 319 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 11: Is soft landing with very good outcomes for the US economy. 320 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 11: So I think there's a lot to be pleased to beat. 321 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 11: And you see good strong consumer spending. Consumers still have 322 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 11: substantial wealth. I think it's supporting good strong spending and 323 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 11: the economy is doing well, and I think US growth 324 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 11: is making a contribution to stronger global outcomes as well. 325 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 19: So I want to ask you a little bit about 326 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 19: the rise in yields that we've seen. We've seen yield 327 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 19: surging over the last few weeks. The ten year treasury 328 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 19: rose above five percent earlier this week. What's your view 329 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 19: on what is driving that surgeon yields and how much 330 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 19: of it is connected to investors' concerns about the US deficit. 331 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 11: Well, I don't think much of it is connected to that. 332 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 11: This is a global phenomenon in advanced countries where seeing 333 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 11: yields go up in most advanced countries of the world largely, 334 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 11: I think it's a reflection of the resilience that people 335 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 11: are seeing in the US economy, that we're not having. 336 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 18: A recession, that consumer. 337 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 11: Spending and demand continue to be strong, The economy is 338 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 11: continuing continuing to show tremendous robustness, and that suggests that 339 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 11: interest rates are likely to stay higher for longer. And 340 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 11: so part of the increase in yields I think is 341 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 11: simply a reflection of the strength of the economy, the 342 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 11: notion that interest rates will be higher for longer. 343 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 18: Now, whether or not. 344 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 11: That's really true if we look at five or ten years, 345 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 11: what are interest rates likely to do? Honestly, for a 346 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 11: very long time, we've felt that interest rates over decades 347 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 11: had been coming down real interest rates, and there were 348 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 11: deep structural reasons for that, in part relating to demographics 349 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 11: and those underlying trends. They're still there, they're still in force. 350 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 11: So I think it's perfectly possible that we will see 351 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 11: longer term yields come down, but nobody really knows for sure. 352 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 11: But I see the higher yields as certainly importantly a 353 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 11: reflection for stronger economy. 354 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 19: I know you took a trip to China in big 355 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 19: to Beijing this summer. You've been talking about how our 356 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 19: policy should really be around de risking or diversifying rather 357 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 19: than decoupling. But what do you think is the current 358 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 19: status of that. Do you think the Chinese have adopted 359 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 19: that and feel like they can trust us on that front, 360 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 19: or do you think they still really think that we're 361 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 19: in a competition with them first and foremost. 362 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 11: So, I mean we've articulated a strategy. As you said, 363 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 11: it involves de risking in some areas where we're overly 364 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 11: dependent on China, and clean energy is a good example. 365 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 11: We also intend to focus on national security. 366 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 18: That's an area. 367 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 11: That we're not willing to compromise on, and so we 368 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 11: have We do have export controls. We continue to review 369 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 11: them with We're working on a set of restrictions on 370 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 11: outbound investment to China. We've discussed this with them and 371 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 11: put out a proposal that's in the public domain. I 372 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 11: think comments just closed on it. But our objective there 373 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 11: is to target what we do as narrowly as possible 374 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 11: so that it really focuses on national security, that it 375 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 11: is not an intention in that to harm the prospects 376 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 11: of Chinese economic development and the welfare of the Chinese people. 377 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 19: With the Israel Hamas war happening in the Middle East, 378 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 19: I think there's a concern by some that the war 379 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 19: could spread or expand to broader in the region. I 380 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 19: know that that's not your base case, but if that 381 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 19: was to happen, could you walk us through your wrist 382 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 19: scenario for what that might mean to the global economy. 383 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 11: My focus is, I look now at what's happening to 384 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 11: the Middle East. Really is the tragedy, the human tragedy 385 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 11: that's taking place with the Israelis have suffered, and of 386 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 11: course we're worried about casualties in Gaza as Israel. 387 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 18: Pursues its war against Tamas. 388 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 11: So far, I would say we've not yet seen much 389 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 11: that has global consequences. What could happen if the war expands. 390 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 11: Of course, there could be more meaningful consequences, but I 391 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 11: think it's premature to speculate against about those, and I 392 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 11: think our focus should be keeping this contained and not spreading. 393 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: And that was the Secretary of the Department of the Treasury, 394 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: Janet Yellen, speaking with Bloomberg's Peggy Collins from our Washington newsroom. 395 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: You could hear that entire conversation on the Bloomberg Talks podcast. 396 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: Download the show in all of our high profile discussions 397 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts. 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