WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Pro Bowl Count? 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.120 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:16.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.720 for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:25.079 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.440 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:36.760 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.199 It is Thursday, December sixteenth, twenty twenty one, season seventeen, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.120 episode number eighty. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.560 Clive from s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star got 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.000 Dick Dave Amber with me. It feels like we haven't 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.760 been all together. And while because Dave was out one day, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.840 Nick was out one day, it's good to have everybody 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.240 back in studio. We'll get you guys ready Cowboys versus 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.960 Giants at happened in this Sunday. It is going to 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.880 be a barn burner. Maybe probably not. That's not the 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.040 phrase that I would use. Okay, So we'll tell you 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.600 what's going to happen over the next couple of shows. Here. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.160 We gotta show today in tomorrow and then we'll get 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.080 ready for this game on Sunday real quick. Nick, give 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.640 me an eighty eighty. Tony Hill is always a good eighty. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.399 He was a great player, Tony Hill, Tony Hill. But 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.760 I always like this guy named Stepfret Williams. I just 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.600 think that's a cool name to say. Remember, we're just 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.040 we're just not going to pay respects to the legend 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.840 Rico Gathers. We're just gonna do that. I wonder where 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.160 you're going with King Gats. That's where you come in, 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.800 because I don't even think about him at all. How 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.479 how he's one of the most legendary figures in cowboys history. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.600 I was one of your You were actually all on 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.600 board with getting him, like you were all over the 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.640 Baylor guy. And yeah, you were all over that. Yes 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.880 you are. You were excited, you like you were like 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.920 that idea, they need to get him. My tongue is 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.400 planted firmly in my cheek. But like I mean, as 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.040 far as sixth round picks who caught like less than 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.240 fifteen career passes go, he's probably the most memorable of 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:18.600 all time. Yeah, I think Marty by two, that's not 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:25.919 eighty Church just we are distractable. Yeah, anyway, what a shame, 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:30.360 What a shame? You are another big Reco Gathers fan. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.440 Weren't you? I don't know what a fan. I it's 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.720 a shame that we didn't get to see them try 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.200 him out at another position. That's why I say, what 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.840 do you want to see him at tackle? I would 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.200 have tried him ound, yeah, something on the defensive line, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.480 just to see why not a defensive offensive line. I 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.520 would want to try him the defensive line. Okay, back then, Okay, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.000 I was like, put him out there. He's not. He 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.120 definitely hasn't. I'm having I'm having flashbacks to like actual 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.640 shows that we did, Like we don't. We don't need 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.600 to talk about this. We don't need to talk. I'm sorry. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.320 I'm sorry for bringing Ricot into boxing or something. I 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.360 don't know what he's doing. I was just Hardy should 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.280 have been playing basketball overseas. That's what he should have 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.400 been doing. Good point, make a hell of a living 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.240 in Grease, Turkey, Italy, Spain. Don't have to be an 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.560 NBA to make money in basketball. Yeah, all right, let's 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:28.880 move on. Let is real quick, real quick. I'm sorry, Dave, 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.120 give me an update on Tony Pollard. Where are we 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.600 standing with his injury? Tony Pollard's gonna try to push 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.240 it at practice today. They're practicing in shells. This they're 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.240 doing a real practice today after just kind of a 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.440 you know, shorts and shirts yesterday. This is a real practice. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.480 They're outside. He's gonna give it a go. Who knows 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.800 what that means. Take everything you hear from Mike with 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.640 a grain of salt when it comes to injuries and 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.840 stuff like that. We'll see what the injury report says. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:54.840 I mean, he's been out there this whole time, so 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.160 like we're gonna go out to practice, he's gonna be 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.960 out there working with britt He's gonna be jogging around, 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.600 and I mean, we have no idea what he's going 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.280 to do in the team period. We'll see what the 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:08.119 injury report says. It'd be interesting. I'm interested to see 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.360 what happens this weekend with regards to him and with 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.880 Zeke to some degree. And Nick, you weren't here yesterday. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.039 We did talk a little bit about Zeke and his injury, 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:17.800 and he says yesterday when he talked to the met 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.520 he's actually feeling like he's got a little bit of 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.760 his explosiveness back. What are your thoughts, Darren, do you think, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.360 do you think that maybe the Cowboys, for the better 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.320 of him and for the better of the team, should 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.440 take a step that's kind of drastic and sit him down. Well, 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.039 he didn't look explosive to me. I mean he felt 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.240 he felt I guess he said he felt good. I 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.159 was listening to him, going where was that? Like? I mean, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.120 he was okay, but he was also limping around a 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.760 whole lot now he was. It's a weird injury to 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.920 me because they keep running him and using him and 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.760 he doesn't look right. And yeah, I think sitting him 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.360 might might be. I mean, it's one of those things 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.800 where they're not talking about it at all, like it's fine, 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.240 it's fine, fine, And as soon as they, you know, 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.200 clintse the division, he'll be out, I think, And I 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.760 think that's a smart thing to do. Would you would 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.160 you make that this week? Though? Would you make that 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.000 decision relative to what's happening with Tony, Like would you 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.240 say I would only sit him if Tony is back, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.040 or would you say, hey, you got to sit him. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.880 It's a it's a good thing to do regardless. Yeah, 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.200 I don't want to go into any game without either 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.640 one of them. No, thank you, but no, I mean 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:30.240 that's crazy talk. Corey Clement played pretty well, all things considered, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:35.279 But like Corey Clement and Edo Smith and Jaquan Hardy, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.440 I mean, that was the argument that that I think 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.560 that Isaiah was making yesterdays. He was like, I'd sit 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.520 him both if I think. I know that's what he thinks, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.960 and I disagree. I mean he did, I said yesterday 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.200 he made a good point. But I mean, I feel 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.240 much better with at least one of those guys available. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.840 I mean, you have a you have a chance. Like 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.440 I don't know, though, you have to get away from 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.680 the rams. You just you do. You gotta keep winning. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.240 You gotta get to the third seat. And you can 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.520 get to the third seat if the pack you control it. Yeah, 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.600 you can. You know, Packers or even Arizona. Now Tampa 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.200 doesn't look likely. They're not gonna lose two times. I 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.080 don't believe in Arizona. All you need to do is 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.640 just beat Arizona. Beat Arizona. You when you're your games, 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.960 you're in the third. Thing he's saying, you probably can't 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.040 get a whole lot higher than right, No, yeah, you 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.279 can get can you control if Tampa is a tie 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.599 with Green Bay and Dallas, and then you get three 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.400 way tie. Then you can jump all of them. So 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.200 you can't control getting to two or one. You certainly 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.960 can control gett into three, so so control what you 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.560 can control. I would just call them the tag team 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.279 champions right there, Pollered and Z and they just tagging. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.200 I mean, just like in a game like one one's 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.560 gonna play, one's gonna sit. But I think I'm gonna 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.600 use them that way until they're healthy, until or the 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.160 playoffs until yeah, right, all right, which one it comes first? 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.760 We're gonna go ahead and take an early break here. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.120 We got Bucky Brooks coming up from NFL Network. He'll 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.080 join us in the second segment. We got some questions 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.480 for him about this matchup Cowboys versus Giants. When you 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.560 come right back, This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.560 at ATNC. 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Welcome back. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.280 Second segment of the Break Life s WBC Mortgage Studios 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:35.640 at the Star and you're showing bring your man Roman Rains. 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.880 It's so matter of factly bring him to me? Yeah, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.800 is still simping for Roman Rains for those of you 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.440 who are listening Me and Rob Phillips. Okay, okay, is 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.960 you on your list like you're you're a taking woman? 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.080 Is he on your list like the Hall Pass list? Hey, 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.800 you can be cool with people. It doesn't mean I'm 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:58.640 not saying I'm anything else. Okay, you want to meet hi, 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:05.559 bring him here? Suggested that I'm saying, bring him here 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.439 to the Dallas Scotus facility so we can shoot a 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:12.640 video promote the WrestleMania Like what, Okay, do you not 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.880 want us to promote wrestle No? I do. That's good. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.680 Let's promote w w video is what she said, shoot 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:23.320 a video an interview promoting That's what she said. Okay, Fucky, 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.319 welcome to Hey, Bucky Man, we off the rails to day. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.199 You're gonna have to save us. Bucky Brooks of NFL 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.760 Network joining us right now to talk a little Cowboys 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.200 versus Giants Let's start first with Mike Glennon Uh. He 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.600 has started the last two games for the Giants, replacing 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.439 Daniel Jones. Uh. He's only completed about fifty percent on 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.160 average of his passes. He's been sacked five times. He's 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.720 passed for under two hundred yards in both games. So 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.600 paying a scenario for me, any scenario where you think 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.559 this Giants offense can can get over on the Cowboys defense, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.120 Like I feel like we had a conversation about this 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.320 like last year where we didn't think that the Giants 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.200 can do anything and it ended up being a game 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.160 in the thirties. I think for the Cowboys, if they 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:12.800 stay on their ps and qs, this should be an 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.080 offense that they can kind of gobble up, much like 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.320 they were able to gobble up to Washington football team 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.360 for three plus quarters last week. I think the thing 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.360 with the Giants is Freddy Kitchen takes over for Jason 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.679 Garrett as the play caller. They're still trying to figure 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.120 out their identity. Say Quon Barkley is not necessarily the same, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.040 and so they're trying to put all the pieces of 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.319 the posle together. And then you have a quarterback in 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.120 Mike Lennon, who has never necessarily been a high end 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.360 consistent quarterback. And so to me, this is about just 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.880 making sure you don't give them anything cheap, don't let 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.040 the ball flow over your head. Put pressure on them, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.560 because if you put enough pressure on Mike Glennon, eventually 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.280 he would give up the ball. He'll cough it up 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.280 and be a handful of turnovers. Day'll may all right, Becky, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:55.000 A two part question number one, what has happened to 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.199 sa Quon Barkley? Like why is he not the same? 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.800 In two? Who is your favorite wrestler of all times? 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:05.440 For talking about wrestling? Well, let's start with favorite wrestl 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.720 of all time. I would say the American Dream Dusty 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:20.600 Rhodes will probably be my favorite of all time. Um, daddy, yeah, yeah, um, 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.240 because because everyone else loved Rick Ferren. I do have 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.880 a thing for the nature Board, but Dusty Rhodes was 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:32.320 always going for him. Uh. The reason Saint Juan Berkley 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.200 isn't the same. I won't say he's not the same, 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:35.440 but if you go back and look at how he 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.360 was at Penn State, he was always a bit of 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.880 a boom or bust in terms of production. It was 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:46.320 two yards minus game two yards three yards, fifty yard 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.200 game two yards three yards. So he he had like 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.920 a little Barry Sanders is type production in terms of 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.640 it wasn't always a steady drip. I think with the 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.360 Giants he's not the same now since the injuries. He 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.920 doesn't necessary they have the same. Verse, He's still productive 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.199 in Bursto can catch the rock. And then he's also 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:08.000 playing behind an offensive line that isn't necessarily the best. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.640 And so when you have those factors, you do have 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:15.360 these inconsistent moments from a player who was taking second 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.400 overall in the draft. Buck, can you talk to me 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.000 about our guy as Zizojalari the rookie. I know we 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.640 liked him in the draft. Good player. I'm just curious 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.520 how they're using him, I'm guessing. I mean, is he 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.680 like an every down guy or at least a regular 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.319 member of the rotation or they using him in sub packages? 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:36.720 It just it seems like he's come on, I mean, 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.560 he's got seven and a a half sacks. How's he doing it? 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.040 I mean, look, he's the same going to be sort 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.520 of George. He's an active guy, very athletic, does a 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.559 good job with his speed. Verse and energy. They certainly 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.079 are mixing him in the rotation and using them with 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.240 a bunch of different ways and allowing him to go 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.200 get after the past. And when you really look at 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:57.559 this Giants team outside of him, he's the most dynamic defender. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.680 Lenard Williams has been good at times. You talking about 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.959 Dex and Lawrence all those other guys, but they're not 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.400 necessarily that explosive energizer bunny that you typically like to 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.120 have within the rotation. At least Ozelaari gives them that, 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.320 and so he's been good. He's a productive on the whole. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.600 I would say this Giants defense is the same as 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.320 they've always been. They're rock solid. They're gonna make sure 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.360 they try and take care of the running game, and 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.960 then they're going to change the coverage and do all 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.280 these other things. And you never really know what they're 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.360 going to do prior to the game because Patrick Graham 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.680 comes from the New England tree, and so every game 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.560 plan is a bit like a snowflake, so you never 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.160 get the same thing twice. Bucky, we keep talking about 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.760 the running game, the Cowboys running game with Zeke and 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.600 Paular being injury, I mean, looking at this Giants defense. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.080 Is this a game that maybe in your eyes you 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.800 think that they could do without both of those running 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:56.680 backs where they sit them out this week? Well, look, man, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.040 I think Corey Claiming played well enough that you can 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.080 entertain the possible earlier of him taking on a big 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.200 worth though he had thirteen carries I think last week, 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.920 and it was right down the middle with him and Zeke. Obviously, 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.680 like if Zeke can play, you want him to play 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.640 because what he does in the pass protecting game, he's 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.760 one of the best, if not the best, pass protected 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.440 at the running back position, and so you want to 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.920 make sure that Dak Prescott is protected. But if you 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.240 can lighten his load and not subject him to a 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.760 bunch of collisions and those things, you want to do that. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.080 I think if Clement shows early in the game that 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.360 he kind of has it going, I think you see 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.160 the skills kind of tipping his favor in terms of 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.960 the workload. Let's talk a little bit about Layton vander Esch. 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.360 Last week, I thought he played better than he's played 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.720 in other weeks. What did you see from him and 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.080 what do you think was it possibly a situation where 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.160 maybe having Mica at lineback or having those other guys 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.280 back on the defensive line maybe helped Layton Vandersch in 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.400 some way to be a better player, more productive player 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:54.000 than he'd been in some of the past games. This season, Yeah, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:55.600 he's a bit of a chameleon. I mean, I think 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.920 he plays better when he's surrounded by better supporting casts. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.680 I think most players are like that, and the Cowboys 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.960 have their full confident of guys. I mean, look, the 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.120 defense has shown that it's one of the top defenses 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.000 in football. When you put de Marcus Lawrence and Randy 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.800 Gregory and Michael Parsons out there, the energy level picks 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.560 up and you see how everyone kind of raises their 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.320 level of performance. I think Laydon vander Esh was able 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.480 to do that. And then it's also a bit of 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.040 a thing where it's kind of contagious when the plays 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.600 start coming. So when you see Micauls start making a play, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.360 you see Randy Rick and we make a play early 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.360 in the game, you see the Marcus Lawrence hustling and 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.920 Jason it kind of puts the peer fresh show on 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.560 you to kind of take your game up a notch. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.480 I think now that everyone is back, Layden Renner's just 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.000 going to play better because one, he doesn't have as 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.000 many responsibilities on his play in terms of having to 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.840 make plays, and now he'll fall into some plays because 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.920 he's just running and hustling and making and just kind 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:50.920 of fall in the ball. Michael Parsons, We've talked about 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.840 how you know he's can play different spots, but I 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.560 believe he ranks fifth and sacks and ninety ninth and 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:02.600 pass rushes. When when did the Cowboys start getting some 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.960 criticism if it's not already of like, all right, you 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.320 probably just need to rush the passer more, or do 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.560 you think that he wouldn't be as effective if he 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.800 did rush it more. He probably wouldn't be as effective 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.040 if he was a one hundred percent pass rusher. I 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.879 think what you have now is you actually have the 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.840 best of both worlds because what they're able to do 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.919 and what they did against the Watchington football team is 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.160 they were able to isolate him on the guard when 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.280 you have Randy Gregor on one side, DeMarcus Lawrence on 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.760 the other side, and you do some of those five 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.080 old pass rushers where you get five guys coming and 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.879 you're able to isolate one on one matches, where now 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.600 you can have Michael Parsons go over wall, though, and 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:44.160 we're seeing that his quickness, his burst, his hand skills 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.840 allows him to get to the quarterback, and so I 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:49.879 think it's best to send him from the second level 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.359 because he can pick and choose who he wants to 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.800 go against, and it makes it harder for the offense 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.560 to slide multiple blockers to him. And so I think 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.600 the way that using I think the way dan Quinn 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.960 has using them is perfect, and I think it's one 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.119 of those things where as they get closer and closer 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.919 to the postseason, I think you'll see even more creativity 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.240 from dan Quinn in terms of how he unleashes number 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.240 eleven because as you begin to focus on number eleven, 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.240 number ninety and number ninety four begin to get off 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.080 and then that's when it becomes a lot of fun 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.439 to watch the Cowboys defense because they have it going 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.840 up front. I get that you literally just told me 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.119 Patrick Graham's going to change this thing up, and it 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.679 makes it hard to predict the game plan, but it 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.320 seems like a good guess, based on the way teams 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.639 have been playing the Cowboys, that they're going to clog 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.159 the field, try to take away deep shots for the 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:43.119 passing game, and with the running game not working the 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.359 way that it hasn't been working, which I mean, maybe 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.040 they get it going, that would be great, But if 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.240 it's not, what would your approach be to getting things 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.440 going underneath? Because that really seems like it's been the 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.119 problem for the Cowboys. I mean, do you have a 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:02.760 tip for how they might do that better. I think 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.760 it's not just Patrick Graham. I think it's the league 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.480 why trend where you're seeing more teams kind of park 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.320 their safeties in the parking lot and say we're gonna 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.960 take away the deep ball, and more teams are also 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.440 being willing to give up again see rushing yards because 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.320 it's a slower death. You're not going nickel and diamond 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.520 with three and four yard runs and drive the length 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.879 of the field and score a bunch of points. You 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:24.760 may control the ball, but you won't score a lot 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:26.919 of points leaning on the running game. And so for 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:31.080 the Cowboys, I believe man, Look, they're players, Ceedee Lamb 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.879 and Michael Gallup and Marie Cooper. They're really good catching 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.640 run playmakers, and so what I would like to see 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.840 them do are more things that get them the ball 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.200 on the move, crossing routes, things where they can kind 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:44.960 of catch it, like I know they like to run 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.680 slants in those things, but other things where eighty eight 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.720 and nineteen can get it on the move and get 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.680 up the field. And so it requires a level of patients. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.240 I think Dad has to be more patient. I think 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.119 he's been impatient trying to go big play, honey. I 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.000 think this has to be a thing where, look, man, 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.000 let's just kind of if we're playing Dominos, Nickel and Dost, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.760 let's five and tend them down the field and then 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.199 eventually the big plays happened, But you don't have to 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.800 force it down the field because that's when the interceptions 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:17.240 and the bad stuff happens. Is this a week where 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.320 you're still okay with saying a win is a win 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.440 type of win? Or mentally for the Cowboys offense, is 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.240 this a week where they have to get out there 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:32.000 and actually be dominant and kind of start clicking this 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:36.280