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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. I hope you're prepared to be

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Speaker 1: insanely charmed because my guest today is actor Milo bent Emilia,

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Speaker 1: who may be one of the most charming dudes in

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, he has brought to life some

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Speaker 1: of your favorite roles and everything from Gilmore girls to heroes.

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Speaker 1: So this is us and what will sure to be

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Speaker 1: one of your new favorite roles of his in his

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Speaker 1: latest film, I Can Only Imagine Too. This is a

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Speaker 1: conversation full of so much heart. So let's see if

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Speaker 1: today we can get Milo to say something that he

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Speaker 1: has never said before. Milo, how are you, my man.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you here. We have so

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Speaker 1: much to celebrate. What a time for you right now,

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Speaker 1: I mean likes time, thanks man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a bit of a different year than

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, thank god, yeah, thank thank god.

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Speaker 2: And also like appreciating kind of like what came through

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Speaker 2: the year and with the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well obviously here today we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: all about I Can Only Imagine Too, which is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We have a lot of other stuff to

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Speaker 1: cover until we get there. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: that I want to start with this, this conversation with

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Speaker 1: pop up on my social feeds every once in a

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Speaker 1: while with the headline that you allow men to wear

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Speaker 1: short shorts in the gym, and as a fellow Jim

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Speaker 1: enthusiasts who loves a good thigh short that rocks up proudly,

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Speaker 1: and that my brothers have been like, ah, you gotta

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Speaker 1: wear past the knee, and I'm like, no, No, it's

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Speaker 2: We in the surf line or something trying to keep

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Speaker 1: I mean, who wants that? Right? Like all that fabric,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're normalizing shorter shorts for men, and I

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Speaker 2: You could probably attest to this is it's easier to

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Speaker 2: work in when you don't have too much fabric kount

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Speaker 2: of there. So the short shorts, I'll take it back

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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, depending on what role I'm playing,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm training a bit, training a lot, or picking

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Speaker 2: up your guitar or doing whatever I think in the

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Speaker 2: moment I was doing a lot of training for UH

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Speaker 2: to play Army Special Forces. And my trainer, Jason Walsh,

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Speaker 2: we were working, and we were just working and like

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Speaker 2: for me to like, you know, just hike my shorts

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Speaker 2: was doing. Just happened. So I think shorts in question,

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Speaker 2: we're a normal length short, kind of like mid thigh

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Speaker 2: maybe like closer to the knee, but not too far,

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Speaker 2: like not too long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But then I just just yanked them up. And it

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Speaker 3: Gq s all those people like shorts are back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, trendsetter man.

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Speaker 2: Had no idea, had no idea. But but I I'm

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Speaker 2: happy that. You know, anybody else can you know, get

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Speaker 1: You are making it okay for us to wear them.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for your service, thank you, very welcome,

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Speaker 1: Very well, that's amazing. Well, I don't even know where

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Speaker 1: You are part of so many beloved projects that mean

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Speaker 2: It varies and it's you know, person to person, project

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Speaker 2: always this is us because the most recent heroes happens.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, yeah, there is a body of

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Speaker 1: And it's amazing that people are still watching the work

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Speaker 1: I know you always hear about Gilmore Girls. That's something

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Speaker 2: I mean that I show in particularly, the writing was

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Speaker 2: You're like old?

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Speaker 2: And I try and tell them like, hey, that was

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Speaker 2: Like not even a you know, a thought in mommy

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Speaker 2: It's like, how do we as artists, how do we

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Speaker 1: And it's cool that the writers, the work they put

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Speaker 1: much to so many people, and they create characters, and

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. That was just stoked to have my name,

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Speaker 1: So what do you really think about Jess.

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Speaker 2: I think who he grew up to be was pretty remarkable,

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Speaker 2: Boyish quality that was just had a harder edge to

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Speaker 2: I thought, how great is that to show that, you know,

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Speaker 2: he turned out to be a good guy. Yeah, not

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Speaker 2: he had to grow up.

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Speaker 1: You had to grow up. Well, we all want growth, right,

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Speaker 1: That's pretty damn cool man. So if you could look

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Speaker 1: Well, when you and I were coming up, our careers

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Speaker 1: but you can create your own now in many ways,

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Speaker 1: which is so interesting, very very much so. And you

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Speaker 2: But if you have an empty stomach, you're a little

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Speaker 2: we all lean into one another. Like my gratitude started

434
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 2: to really truly grow from there.

435
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: And gratitude is such an important part of this film.

436
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: And there's a scene that absolutely broke me, which and

437
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: it's when your character is in the bathroom alone and

438
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: he starts spitting up blood and aggressively spitting up blood

439
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 1: to the point where you're like, what's gonna happen to him? Like,

440
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? And after he's finished, he pulls up

441
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: his sleeve, takes his marker and puts an X on

442
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: his wrists, which is something your character does to show

443
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: daily gratitude. He does it every day. He puts that

444
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: X on his wrist to remind himself to be grateful.

445
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, so many people in that moment that wouldn't

446
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: be able to do that.

447
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: What a moment of strength and self worth to say, Hey,

448
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm going through something and I know it's not good,

449
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: but here I am. You know, for Tim, he has

450
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: his faith. For I think anybody else struggling with anything anything,

451
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 2: we all have that strength within ourselves. We all have

452
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: to believe it and have faith almost in ourselves that

453
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: we can get through those tough times, you know, because

454
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: I mean, you me, anyone who streets, anyone watching to

455
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: listen to this, Like, we all have our individual tough times,

456
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: you know, and it could be as severe as cancer,

457
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: it could be as you know, simple as anything else,

458
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: but you know, we have the self reflective moments and

459
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 2: to find strength. And also, like you know, I know

460
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: a theme that Bart Millard, who's you know, the through

461
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: line from the first film. In the second film, it's

462
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: like basically, you know, his story for mercy me. He

463
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: has said. I think it's a very nice thing. Gosh,

464
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: for anybody. You don't have to be a person of

465
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: faith and feel and believe this, but he says, you're

466
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: not alone. And I think that solemnity people feel where

467
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: maybe they're at their end and they think nobody understands

468
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: and nobody can truly kind of relate to what I'm

469
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: going through. Ah Man, You're not alone. And even when

470
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: you are sitting there with nobody else around, you're still

471
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: not alone. And I think that's a beautiful message of

472
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: this film, is knowing like, hey, you're not alone.

473
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And I think I think seeing a performance

474
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: like what you give in this movie and seeing that

475
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: moment in the bathroom will help a lot of people

476
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: feel like they can have the strength to get through

477
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: whatever it is or getting through. And unfortunately, cancer is

478
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: a big thing in our world, and I think a

479
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: lot of people who are going through it or in

480
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: recovery were recently diagnosed. We'll see that and hopefully feel

481
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: feel good. And I think I don't think there's anyone

482
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: out there who hasn't been Oh, I lost some people

483
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: that cancer this yeah, and it was hard. So seeing

484
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: that makes you feel like, wow, to have a glimmer

485
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: of hope. Man, we need that.

486
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: You know what it is. I mean, it seems like like,

487
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: you know, both my parents have cancer, and it feels

488
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 2: like such a death sentence. It's a scary word. It's

489
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: a scary thing. And it happens to every living object,

490
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: you know, not just people, like it happens to the

491
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: animal world. That happens in in you know, plants, happens everywhere.

492
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: Things get sick. And that is also the tough thing

493
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 2: about life. There's birth, there is death. You know, what

494
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: do we do in between. My wife kind of rolls

495
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: her eyes at me a little bit, but I think

496
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: she knows the man she married's like I always tell her, Hey,

497
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: power positive thinking. Mm hmm. All. I mean from the

498
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: metabolic level, you know what it puts through your system

499
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: and endorphins, to what you're actually passing on to another person,

500
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: the power of positive thinking. I think in those tough,

501
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: trying moments a cancer, you know, diagnosis, to losing someone

502
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: of cancer or any any else on the planet, those

503
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: those fires of life we go through, the storms all

504
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: of it, Like, Hey, We're given these moments to hopefully

505
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: show those around us and show ourselves we are strong

506
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: enough to carry whatever it is that's put upon us.

507
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's.

508
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: Given to us. And you know, it's never fun to

509
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: carry cancer. It's fun to carry, you know, loss, but

510
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: it happens. Never fun to carry you know, the house

511
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: being burned down and all that, but it happens. Life happens.

512
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: So you know, power positive thinking. You know, hopefully you

513
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: can take the memory of your friends who pass and say, oh,

514
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: let me talk about them, talk about how they lived,

515
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: and you pass that you share that story with somebody

516
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: and somebody's there to hear it too, you know. Again,

517
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: hopefully those connections start to fire a little bit more

518
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: where people realize, hey, they're not allowed and to like

519
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: this wild thing called life that we all do humanity

520
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: human kind of like, hey, there's differences, there's all this stuff.

521
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: But if we finallyys come together, you know, foundationally place

522
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: to love, like, we're all going to enjoy this whole

523
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: process a lot more.

524
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think those are some of the most beautiful

525
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: parts and messages from this film. And it's just a film.

526
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: We need, like totally, we don't have enough of this.

527
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

528
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at headlines you're like, man, yeah, I'm

529
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: not gonna step out of my front door today.

530
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it.

531
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's such an important film and it

532
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: allows people to go through the gambit of emotions and

533
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: feel what they're going to feel. And I think even

534
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: seeing someone like him and seeing his strength and what

535
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: you've gone through with the fires, and like you're still standing,

536
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: You're still here, you're still moving one tho. Man, right,

537
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: you're doing doesn't mean it's always easy, doesn't mean it's

538
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: always been easy. I'm sure there were moments where you

539
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: broke down and cried, unless you're just very stony.

540
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: No, but you know what it is like for me,

541
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: my break comes and turns into action. I'm an action dude,

542
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: where like, if I'm feeling something, it's like, no, you

543
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: keep moving forward in a way that is, hey, let's

544
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: redirect what is making me feel like I'm now hitting

545
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: the wall. I look at the wall and go cool,

546
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 2: Can I go around it? Can I go over? Can

547
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: I go under it? And sometimes can I go straight

548
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: fucking through it? You know that's the way that I

549
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: look at that kind of.

550
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: Stuff an athlete mentality.

551
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: It kind of is, you know, it kind of is,

552
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: and there is an athleticism and stamini that I have

553
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: had to have through the course of my career, you know,

554
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: going back to like nos and yes Is, It's like,

555
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: you know, you have to be able to muscle through

556
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: these things, and muscle is the wrong word. You have

557
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: to emotionally be prepared for this stuff to happen. And

558
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: when it happens, you're not necessarily surprised or you know,

559
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: locked into place. You just you take action from it.

560
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: And you have to believe and have faith that it

561
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: can happen, right, And I think that's another message of

562
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: this film is faith and faith means different things to

563
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: different people. And whatever somebody who's listening to this might

564
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: believe in is all valid. For faith to carry you

565
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: through life, I think is an important thing. Right. Are

566
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: you someone that has a good faith.

567
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: I've got a pretty good practice, a good foundation.

568
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: I was raised. You know, I wouldn't call myself religious,

569
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: but deeply, deeply, deeply spiritual. You know, that was just

570
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: how I was raised, you know what my parents raised

571
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: me with. But I also in that have great respect

572
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: for what you're saying. People that do have faith, and

573
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: it is so individual. You know, some people that say

574
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: they don't have faith. I'm like, but there is some

575
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: kind of belief in yourself and you know why we

576
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: are here, not just as organic matter, right, you know,

577
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have to be the universe or God

578
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: or you know, whatever path you follow. It's like there's

579
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: something greater kind of working that we as human beings

580
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: on our level of existence in the you know, third

581
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: dimension of world, we don't quite get and we'll never

582
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: really know because maybe that's just not our place to

583
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: know as human beings until you know, you do get

584
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: experienced out at some point, or you don't. I have

585
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: no clue. I've no idea what I'm talking about.

586
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: The idea, Yeah, well, none of us do. To believe

587
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: in something bigger than us, I think is a cool

588
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: and important thing very much.

589
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: So I agree with that.

590
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a humbling thing for sure. You strike me

591
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: as someone who very much I said athlete earlier, Like

592
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: you're a discipline dude, right, like you're it's a health

593
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: and wellness Yeah, you strike me as someone who probably

594
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: doesn't drink a ton, no, probably doesn't smoke a ton,

595
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: not at all. There you go, like you just seem

596
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: very kind of into making list the best healthiest life

597
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: you can make it.

598
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: You know what it is?

599
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: I think healthy in so many aspects, of course is

600
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: what we put into our bodies, but there's also emotionally

601
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: what we soak in. There's mentally intellectually what we soak in.

602
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: And I think if you're getting a healthy dose of

603
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: the right stuff, you know, and not tipping too far

604
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: in one direction. You know, like someone WM's go have

605
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: a drink. Cool, we have a drink. Hopefully you're not

606
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: an alcoholic.

607
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: You know.

608
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: Somebody wants to be on social media hopefully just like cool.

609
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my information from it, and then I'm

610
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: not gonna des scroll. Yeah, you know. So it's one

611
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: of those things. A balance. I think balance is what

612
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: I've tried to hold and carry in my forty eight

613
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: years here is just have a very healthy balance of

614
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: how I do things. And you know, I'm never I'm

615
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: never you know, jumping jumping on the chairs, super excited,

616
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: but I'm also like not hiding underneath it terrified. You know,

617
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting in it here, you know, which sometimes

618
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: to people that kind of reads like you're doing okay,

619
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: You're good, I'm like, no, man, I'd rather sit here

620
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: with a contented smile. I just you know, enjoy where

621
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: I'm at.

622
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's probably why you've had longevity. I mean, I

623
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: think that's a big, big thing to have longevity in

624
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: any career or industry. It's you know, having that kind

625
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: of balanced temperament and outlook in life.

626
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: Probably. I mean, I do know a lot of actors

627
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: that they'll rely on the job and the work for

628
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: their happiness. So dangerous. And I tell people say, now,

629
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: you have to have a full life, like outside of

630
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: the work, Like you have to be willing to live

631
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: life and then let life impact what your art is.

632
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: And that's always worked for me, and I know it

633
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: doesn't work for everybody else. But I've seen a lot

634
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: of active friends kind of get chewed up in those

635
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: moments where they're not getting the works. Like, dude, don't

636
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: worry about it. You're like one of the best actors

637
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: I know, and you're just sitting there like, you know,

638
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: ho home, glum, and like what are you doing, Like,

639
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: go live life, Go be with your kids, Go go

640
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: out on an adventure. You don't have money for an adventure.

641
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: Get in your car. You have a car, Get on transit.

642
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: Just go do something, go see the world and let it,

643
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: like really just soak into your bones to where you

644
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: feel like you're living life. And in living life as

645
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: an artist, you get to transfer that to your work.

646
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: And you're living life. You're a dad. You have another

647
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: kid on the way, right, So how is becoming a

648
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: dad shifted your priority as or changed.

649
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: Time management and support?

650
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

651
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: You know, like my wife is one of the strongest

652
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: people that I know, and she's incredible, and you know,

653
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: of course, like before baby was there, you know, like

654
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: we're good. We flow in and out. Hey, I gotta

655
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: go work in Australia. Yeah cool, I'm gonna come with now.

656
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: It's like, wait, I need go to LA for you

657
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: know a day. Are you cool to handle the kid?

658
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: And we gotta make sure everything's scheduled and if I'm

659
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: getting out of the house, like hey, let me hold

660
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: her so you can get ready, so you can eat,

661
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: so you can do some things, and then we pass

662
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: her off and so I can eat so we can

663
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: you know, kind of do the time management has been

664
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: the biggest thing about being a parent, you know, and

665
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: to understanding like what I do for a living. I

666
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: can't just clock into a set and be there and

667
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: do my job. I got to prepare ahead of time, right,

668
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: like I've got like I mean, playing Tim Timmans playing guitar,

669
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't just jump up like hey cool great.

670
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: I had to prepare for that. I had to plan

671
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 2: for that, vocal lessons for all that.

672
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: So that's really you playing, Yeah, it's me playing.

673
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

674
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: But then it was also the voice was a mashup

675
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: between myself and what I recorded and what Tim Timmans,

676
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: the real man recorded, And you know, even when I

677
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: listened to it, I'm like, well, I hear Tim, but

678
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: I also hear myself, and it's just a weird hybrid

679
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: movie of the both of us, because Tim has just

680
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: such a beautiful, beautiful singing voice and like tonality and

681
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 2: range that I could never capture because that is just

682
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: not in my bag of tricks singing and whatnot. But

683
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: that was me playing. And then they threw in a

684
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: kick drum and a tambourine and a harmonium and all,

685
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: and you didn't quite see it in the edit, but

686
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: when we were filming, I had all these instruments, had

687
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: two songs, like one big banger of a song letting

688
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: up the confetti cannons with two cameras roving on me.

689
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: So I had to get the guitar and strumming and

690
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: fingers all right while I'm getting the words right, while

691
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm connecting to twenty five hundred people out there, all

692
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: wrapped around a four page monologue which kind of runs

693
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: over in the edit. You know, a montage. Yeah, it's

694
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: just just a lot.

695
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a lot.

696
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: And without preparation, man, I'd have been lost.

697
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: You did it?

698
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

699
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Did it?

700
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: I think so?

701
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: Did Tim? See it?

702
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Tim was there every day. But so Tim was on

703
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: set every day, which was just a blessing for me

704
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: because when we first got into the process of ITS, Hey,

705
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: you are like, are you cool for my on set?

706
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, please be there. No, not at all,

707
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: not for me because like, so, my my goal in

708
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: playing a real life human being is not impersonation. Like

709
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: I'm not there to, like, you know, impersonate this guy.

710
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: I'm here to represent him, honestly, honor him, and there's

711
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: gonna be things that I'm gonna miss. So, you know,

712
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: I said to Tim, I'm like, hey, please be there

713
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: as much and as often as you would like to,

714
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: because you're gonna see some things that I'm not gonna notice,

715
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: and if you could give me like a line, a

716
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: moment of anything that will make it feel more authentic,

717
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: if only to your family, your kids, your wife, your

718
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, audience and people that are fans of your

719
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: music and they're like, oh, they're not just watching Milo

720
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: performed him and watching Milo exist as Tim Like that's

721
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: the goal, you know. So he was around all the time, like,

722
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: taught me his music, and then we just got to

723
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: be friends, talk about life, talk about how different our

724
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: paths are are, but how they're almost kind of aligned,

725
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: and how we view things and look at things. So,

726
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, what a blessing for me to have a

727
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: guy like Tim, you know, be as involved as he

728
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: was in the making of this.

729
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: So good man.

730
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

731
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: So good. It's so good. People are gonna go crazy

732
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: over this movie.

733
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: I hope, so, you know, I just I hope people

734
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: take something from it and they pass it on. I

735
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: hope people watch it and think, wow, you know what,

736
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: I feel good coming out the other end of this.

737
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: I hope there's more story to tell. I mean, I

738
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: want to know what happens after after it ends, what's

739
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: what's what happens?

740
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 2: I mean, so, okay, so Tim and Hillary were praying.

741
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: I'll talk about the Tim. The Timmins is Tim and Hillary.

742
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: They're doing amazing. They have four kids, so their firstborn Malia,

743
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: then Noah, than Anna and Aaron. Twins. They got twins last,

744
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: which is pretty wild, like his parents, like, I couldn't

745
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: imagine having twins, like, oh my god. You know, Tim

746
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: is a singer songwriter. That's how he makes his living,

747
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: and that's what he does. You know when he's like

748
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: outperforming and you know, giving his prayer and stuff. He's

749
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: just a wonderful human being. And Hillary is equally, if

750
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: not more wonderful. You know, they're just they're beautiful, beautiful

751
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: people and they have a wonderful, wonderful family. And seeing

752
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: how tight that family is and how tight the community

753
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: of you know, the Timmins and the Millards. Because as

754
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 2: much as Tim was there all the time on set,

755
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: so was Bart Millard. Bart was there and I'm like, man,

756
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: so we got the men themselves here kind of helping

757
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: guide us through this, which is amazing. You know, when

758
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: you're performing the life of these people, you know, John,

759
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 2: Michael Finley and I we had that with Tim and Bart.

760
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: But then it was also like I would forget moments

761
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: that I'm playing Tim, and I think John would. I hope

762
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: John will forget moments he's playing Bart because we would

763
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: all just the four of us sit around and just

764
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: talk as friends, yeah, and talk about everything, and you know,

765
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: it didn't there was no pressure to really exist as

766
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: these people. It's like, I'm just gonna soak up everything

767
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: that Tim is doing and just let it exist between

768
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: action and cut and you know, just they're they're they're

769
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: wonderful people, you know, Tim and Tim and Bart, just

770
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: like you know, and like the movie doesn't even have

771
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: to come out for me to know. I'm like, oh cool,

772
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna know these dudes the rest of my life.

773
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: I was here in this place to become friends with

774
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: you guys. That's the real meaning for me, you know,

775
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: to know Andy Irwin, to know Brent McCorkle, to know John,

776
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: Michael Finley, ye, you know, and then everybody else that's

777
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: in the film. Sophie Skelton incredible, Arielle Keble who played

778
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: my wife Hillary incredible, Sammy Dell newcomer, this guy's Banana's good.

779
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: He's so good. You know, and then everybody else like

780
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: the original gush from the band, I just I can

781
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: honestly go on and on and on, and like, you know,

782
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: it becomes like an award speech of things to everybody around.

783
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: But I'm like, really, the experience was very cathartic and

784
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: very healing for me to be a part of this film,

785
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: and I hope people feel that when they're watching it,

786
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: to know like he had a huge impact on me

787
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: as an artist, and hopefully they can take something and

788
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: put it into their lives from this film.

789
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Oh then, percent and as we begin to wrap up,

790
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: let's celebrate your characters a little bit. Oka a, Right,

791
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do a little a little uh something

792
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: that I want you to tell me. Okay, Okay, so

793
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: this is what I like to call Which of your

794
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: characters would you hang out with? Okay, So we're gonna

795
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: rank them a little bit, all right. Number one is

796
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: Jack Pearson and this is us obviously versus Denny Swift

797
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: in the Art of Racing in the Rain.

798
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: Oh man, I feel like i'd rather, I don't rather,

799
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: but maybe I first hang out with Jack. So Jack

800
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: for me was my father, Yeah, like how I played him,

801
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: not necessarily how he was scripted, but how I played

802
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: him was I was my I was being my dad

803
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: in that case of you know, the Pearsons and where

804
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: they grew up, what year they grew up in. That

805
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: was kind of the same era as me. So I

806
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: always looked at Jack Pearson like my own father. And

807
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: when I you know, the way I stood, the you know,

808
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: the way I wore my pants, the way you know,

809
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: everything was, and his approach with his kids, I'm like,

810
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: that's my dad. I love hanging out with my dad.

811
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: My dad's the coolest. So for me, I probably Jack,

812
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: but Denny Listen, Denny's awesome too. You know, he's just

813
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: got that race race car mentality. Yeah, yeah, it's a

814
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: little different. But Jack would be my first choice.

815
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: All right, Jack wins Now Jack or Peter Petrelli from

816
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: Heroes Still Jack Jack Okay Jack or Robert Rocky belbo

817
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: A Junior Jack Jack Jack or Sean Benigan from The Whispers,

818
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Oh Jack, Jack's Winning Jack or frat boy Milo from Drafts.

819
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: There was a time in my life where frat boy

820
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: Mile would be a ton of fun. Yeah, thank you

821
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: Adam Sandler for continue to bring bring me along on

822
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: on his films, But that was a funny one. Frat

823
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: boy Milo. I had a meeting over at Sony and

824
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: I get a text message from Sandman from Adam Sandler.

825
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, min you're on I hear you on

826
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: the lock. Can you come by. I'm like yeah, sure.

827
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: So I walk into his office. He's on the phone

828
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: and when I walk in, he goes, yeah, I'm gonnask

829
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: him right now. Hey, so for this, Like do you

830
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: want to go blonde? I'm like, excuse me? Hees like,

831
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: what do you want to do? You want to die

832
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: your hair? You want to like you know, uh, you

833
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: want to wear a wig? Like yeah, he's gonna tell

834
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: me right now. What do you know? What do you

835
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: want to do? Like you want? Like I don't care.

836
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: You get his beautiful head of like dark hair, Like

837
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: you want to bleach? Do you want? Like he's gonna

838
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: tell me right now, what do you want to do?

839
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I guess I'll bleach my hair. He goes, yeah,

840
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: he'll do it and hang the phone up and I'm

841
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: like okay. But I had done a movie with Adam

842
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: the year before, I did That's My Boy with Andy

843
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: Samberg and like that whole group. And so when he

844
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: called me up said hey, I want you to come

845
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: out of Grams to summer in Massachusetts. We're gonna have

846
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: a great time. I was like, yeah, cool, I'm in

847
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: So so.

848
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: Jack beats Jack Beats Fresh Okay, fair enough?

849
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: Jack or Jess Mariano from Jack, Jack and Final One

850
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: Jack or Tim Timmins, Timmins, Timmins nice. Who wouldn't want

851
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: to hang out with Timmins? And that's the thing man comes.

852
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: Tim is He's just it's hard for me to put

853
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: into wards because there's just this feeling you get around Tim.

854
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: You feel heard, you feel respected, you feel inspired, you

855
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: feel like you are being kind of held energetically. You

856
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: know he's just there with you, and it doesn't feel

857
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: like there's too much weight put on you. He wants

858
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: nothing else. That is a man who is completely soaking

859
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: up every experience of life. But yet you see the

860
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: weight that sits on him and how he processes it,

861
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: and just being around Tim, you feel like you're a

862
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: bit of a better human being and whatever energy is

863
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: just weighing on you, it's like it all just kind

864
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: of like magically kind of goes away when you're around Tim.

865
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: And this thing's with everybody that's around him, and it's

866
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: no joke and it's no bullshit, and it is sincere

867
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: and it is genuine. Tim is just like one of

868
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: the easiest guys to be around. Will make you feel

869
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: good about yourself without trying to make you feel good

870
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: about yourself.

871
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, huh? Mutual friends and people in

872
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: the business have said the same thing about you, the

873
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: same thing about your that's nice. Really they have, Like

874
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: I have not heard one bad thing about you from

875
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: peers and people in our world. So it's no surprise

876
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: to me you connect so deeply with Jim and that

877
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: you guys have that special bond. I think it's really cool. Thanks.

878
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: Let's see here as.

879
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: We wrap up, my man. The name of the show

880
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: is called I've never said this before, and it was

881
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: created because I work a lot of red carpets and

882
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: junkets from my other job. And you know, as you know,

883
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: you got a minute and a half with someone or

884
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: three minutes, and it's a lot of sound bites and

885
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: you're answering the same thing because all the entertainment news

886
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: shows that want the same outlet, and you're probably bored

887
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm bored, like it's just not the realest conversation. I

888
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: love my other bosses. Didn't mean that, but you know,

889
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's just it's a business, right,

890
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: and it's not this. You don't have an opportunity to

891
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: really sink into just sharing a little bit of who

892
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: you are. So I always ask people, what is one

893
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: thing you've never said before? Whatever that means to you.

894
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: There's no right or wrong answer that you don't always

895
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: get a chance to say or talk about or put

896
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: out into the world that today you.

897
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: Just kind of want to leave us with something I've

898
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: never said before. Failure. I think a lot of people

899
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: will look at a moment or be tested here a

900
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 2: sharp criticism, hearing no, see an obstacle, or you know,

901
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: a terminal sentence put in front of them, and they

902
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: will just stop. I myself see those not as a

903
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: failing moment, but a way to redirect and an opportunit

904
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: tunity to do something differently. I think in that understanding

905
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: of that point of what could be considered failure, you

906
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to move beyond that, you know. So,

907
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's I don't think I've ever

908
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: said it, but I think it's something that I kind

909
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: of walk with all the time. Is you know, those

910
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: moments where somebody would feel like, hey, that didn't work

911
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: fail or I didn't pass that test, fail, I didn't

912
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: do that thing that I really thought I could fail.

913
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: You didn't fail. There's an opportunity in a moment to

914
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: redirect and hopefully you can take that strength you have

915
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: within yourself to push through and you know, get back

916
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: on track for your own life. Man.

917
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: I love that you can't be what you're meant to

918
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: be if you don't fail a few times.

919
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or be tested and hit that moment of

920
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: like absolute just like stop. You know, it's like life

921
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: can't always be as charmed. You know, I think a

922
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: lot of people think, you know, life can be charmed.

923
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: And you know, especially the world that we're in today,

924
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: everything looks so perfect. It's not. It's not in those imperfections.

925
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's ways for us to find our

926
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: strength within ourselves to just you know, push forward when

927
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: you do feel like you're hitting that point of failure,

928
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: like it's actually not failure, that's an opportunity. Hopefully you

929
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: see it that same way. And you're able to like

930
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: put forward some some goodness and grace for yourself and

931
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: you know, move forward.

932
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Good reminder for us, all man, A good reminder this.

933
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: I feel inspired leaving this conversation.

934
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: You're gonna go to the gym.

935
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: Put thanks to you, Man, I mean, thank you for

936
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: for the gift of this movie, thank you for the

937
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: role you created based off Tim. Of course, I think

938
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: it's essential viewing. I think everybody needs to get off

939
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: their butt and go to a movie theater, which remember

940
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: those we love them, we need them.

941
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: I gotta say, the first time I saw the film,

942
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: it was you know, a link at my house. Andy

943
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: Irwin sent my wife and I a screener like hey my,

944
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: Like first he was like, hey, Mike, come to the

945
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: Linsgate screening room, come watch this. I'm like, oh, dude,

946
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: I got a one year old. I can't. Hey my,

947
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 2: we're having a screen down and you know in in

948
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: in La. You gotta come on, dude, I can't make it. Hey,

949
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna want to come up to nashvillem bro, I

950
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: can't get on the plane right now. I got a

951
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: one year old. So you just send me a link

952
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: in my house and I washed and I was like,

953
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: oh cool, great film. The first time I saw it

954
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: on the big screen was the premiere and it was

955
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: such a difference, such a different seeing it, you know,

956
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: projected forty feet tall.

957
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

958
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: I so get behind that, you know. I think seeing

959
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: this film in a theater is gonna, you know, really

960
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 2: twist people's caps back.

961
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: It will, man, I can only imagine too out now,

962
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you course, oh, thank you

963
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: for hanging out, dude.

964
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: It's stuff to be here man.

965
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: Until next time, man.

966
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds good.

967
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Likewise, next time, I've Never Said This Before.

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00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: It's hosted by me Tommy Jadario. This podcast is executive

969
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: produced by Andrew Povlici at iHeart Radio and by me Tommy,

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00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've Never Said This Before

971
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: is part of the Elvis Duran podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts.

972
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: For more, rate review and subscribe to our show. And

973
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: if you liked this episode, tell your friends. Until next time,

974
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm Tommy Diderio.