1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twenty eight, episode 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: four up Daily's Night Casey Yeah or April twenty six, 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: two thousand eight. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien a K. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: It's like the old saying goes, step on a jack, 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: break your mama's jack. That one is courtesy of wal 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: Chur Chestnut jr Uh and I am thrilled to be 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: joined as always probably my co host Mr Miles Greg. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It is me Cush Limbaugh here 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: to free y'all, because you know what everything When I'm 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Cush Limbaugh, this is how I like to get down 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: on the daily side, guys. So thanks so much to 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: Christie Yamagucchi main again for all grill ass. If only 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Limbaugh was more in the cush, he would not have 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: gotten on those pain pills, would not have been driving 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: around a pickup truck with the bed entirely full of 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: pain pills. He has adult microphone, Yeah, we should talk 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: about that. I would love the Golden Trip, just like 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: fucking like El chop Oh how to right? Yeah, like 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: a podcast looks just like all Golden ship ship you do. 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: I so subscribe to the El Chapo Poke Belgi I 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: mean not Chappo chop House was actually good pipe, but 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: I would love to hear the topose not in the house. 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah uh, we're speaking of We are thrilled to be 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: joined by the host of the Amazing podcast as this 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: racist Mr Andrew T. Guys, thank you for having me back. 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Can I just admit right off the topic. Even though 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: I longtime listener and have been on the show before, 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: I am still amazed by the a K s and 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: like kind of confused every time, Like I remember ie 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: up because I forgot that I was supposed to do 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: it one time when I was on Yeah, Miles had 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: to do it because Andrew Andrew le Mommy T I 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: T I O confused sight up, Confused because I'm an idiot. 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's because you're not overly Kevin. And then 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: then it as I said, I am right now if 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: there's cold crew, Andrew, I love this. It's so good 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: to have you again. What is something from your search 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: history about where you are as a person right now? 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: I think I feel this is going to lose me points. 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: The last thing I searched for was are the Dodgers 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: playing tonight? Because I was having so much trouble parking 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: in Echo Park. I just need to know if there's 43 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: an explanation that I still couldn't do anything about it. 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: But it took me forty five minutes to park on 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: something else, I was already ten minutes late. And also 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: just button Mash this of course, because that's right on sunsets. 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: It was maybe the bar that has the closest physical 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: proximity to Dodgers did you know, maybe short stop, but 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: literally the second closest bar to Dodger Stadium. And for 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: some reason, I was going, did it actually take you 51 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: forty five minutes? Park? It was terrible? Oh, ship it was. 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: It was real, real stupid of me and Button Mash. 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: I've been in there, hear the food is a food good? 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Uh your Asian enough that the food it's not good. 55 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: It's offensively expensive but it's fine. Oh yeah, you know 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I do know what's saying where I'm like, 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's not bad, but it is definitely white 58 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: people charging four dollars four months too much. Forever Ghost 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: to Singapore once. Yeah, so much cool stuff there. Yeah, 60 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: I've read some ball. You know. They have a cart 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: with a Michelin star it's crazy. It's only hard the 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: first one. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, you know what, I 63 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: probably learned that from some white people. So it's like 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: every travel show goes like a food blogger of some 65 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: kind of Yeah, who knows. Anyway, I'm not a baseball fan. 66 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm a baseball game fan because I'm a two hot dogs, 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: three beers and sitting outside fan. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: I only like, m m a guys, Wow, that's the 69 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: only sport you care for? Yeah, just m I guess 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: a little. I guess soccer. What do you think of 71 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Connor McGregor goro while not on that bus? Oh that 72 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: was depressing. Yeah. I think I just saw the clip 73 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, whatever, I don't evenally watch 74 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: the ship to see him throw a fucking dolly through 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: a win What I under what I I What I 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: understood was he didn't expect it to break the window. 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: That's not an excuse, no, I know, but I think 78 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: he was just like, look, this is gonna be theatrical. 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna bounce off and I can do it. It 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: is a little bit like in pro wrestling. Um so, 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: like pro wrestling is a work, like it's a theatrical 82 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: and fake, but I think it's called a shoot when 83 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: things kind of become real. And there's a couple of 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: famous like examples famous not to me because I don't 85 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: have them mout it on my head. They're mostly in Japan, 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: I think, where two dudes clearly like just routed out assholes, 87 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: kind of tough guys, like it turned into a real fight, 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: right like one actually yeah, and it's like, oh, so 89 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: we're doing this now, and then I like you back, 90 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: and then it just turned into a real fight. He 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: hit me with links on Twitter to those videos because 92 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: that just reminds me like some sibling type ship. You're 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: like play fighting the yeah, yeah, really ramping, Yeah cool, 94 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: probably google works that turned into a shoot, but yeah 95 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: works that turned into a shoot. Yeah, maybe add wrestling 96 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to that, but yeah, the real face not a hell 97 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: yeah no, but that that's my favorite ship when it 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, let's do this. But I think 99 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: that's what happened in Connor McGregor, which is like he 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: was like I'm doing a pro wrestling thing and then 101 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: she got very like, oh I cut the ship up 102 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: out of that dude from the glass. It was weird 103 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: that he was followed around like there were cameras there, 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: so it wasn't like a normal assault where you try 105 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: to make sure there aren't cameras, are right. Yeah yeah, 106 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it's whoever really the person to blame this, 107 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: whoever installed that glass? Yeah that's that person, that's the 108 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: real villain. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah no, but he like 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: was that like four fights got called off, so like 110 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: eight people trained cut weight? Right, Like, can imagine really 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: frustrated spitting into a cup and then not being able 112 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: to fight because you got a cut on your forehead 113 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: from bus fight? Yeah? Uh, Andrew, what is something you 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: think is underrated? Underrated? Can do my overrated first? Because 115 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: they're related podcasts? Wait what podcasts are mad overrated? Damn 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: you're right, man, turn this off right now if you're listening, 117 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: because you're a damn fool, you're a sucker. You know 118 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: what's underrated is going into an old hard drive and 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: finding a bunch of mix tapes that you put on there. 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: So I've been listening to like an old Bunby mixtape 121 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: and an old zero mixtape. Podcast this week is the 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: Bundby mix tape is a choppeding screwed There are I 123 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: know it's not the choppin screwed version, but there are some. 124 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: It's like the one he put out that I think 125 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: it became trill, but it is. And for those who 126 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: don't know it, chopped and screwed means when they slow 127 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: this ship down super slope. So sound like you booked 128 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: for NDJ Screw. That was DJ Screw who innovated for 129 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: anyone who wasn't in lucky enough to be in the studio. 130 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: Miles just pantomime nodding off. I listened to too much 131 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Chopped and Screwed music as a twenty early twenties something person. Really, 132 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: where'd you grow up? Oh? I mean that was in 133 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: New York at the time, and you were just I 134 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, And I was not drinking codeine right 135 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: in any form. I would just walk around New York. 136 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: I think I was real frustrated with my job, but 137 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: I would just walk around New York listening to just 138 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: like really slow, sickly nauseating rap. What were you doing 139 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: at the time, I Comedy Central. I was like a 140 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: digital media producer, So I would just like walk around. 141 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: I wolf just get in your mind, right, Yeah, no, 142 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: it would be my It's my soundtrack to Hate Walking 143 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Through Times Square. I have a real weird like, yeah, 144 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Why did you put a Spotify 145 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: playlist together called hate Walking Through Times Square that people 146 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: can jump? Did you ever listen to DJ low By 147 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: his mix taps? No, I don't think so Little Beat Basic. Yeah, 148 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: I can't even like find him on Google. But he 149 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: had like these three mix tapes. They were like sort 150 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: of girl Talkie but better. But I like, yeah, they 151 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: were like mashups, but yeah, like I liked them a 152 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: lot better than the Girl Talk the Girl talk But 153 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: they were circulating for like a couple of months, and 154 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: me and my wife loved him, and then he just 155 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: kind of dropped off, and I still can't like find him. 156 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a thing that is ridiculous. I'm sure, 157 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: but it feels like we're the last people that have 158 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: music that you can't find anymore from our childhood right 159 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: up you can't find. And a lot of it you 160 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: can find, and a lot of stuff that I thought 161 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: in the past, like I owned this record or whatever, 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: no one, I'm cool, And some of that stuff is 163 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: on the internet now, But there was some other stuff 164 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: where I'm like huh. Yeah, they're like a ton of 165 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: like DJ Clue mix tapes and things that I have 166 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: like on old hard drives that especially mixed tape world. 167 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there are websites that do like sort of 168 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: archive it, but that's like one thing that I do 169 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: have a hard drive around, Like yo, I have like 170 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: every yeah whereas now even if it's even if it's 171 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: super obscure, it is at least still on SoundCloud. Like 172 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: it's still there if you google it right, right, But 173 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: like it might not be good. It's probably bad. Most 174 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: sound all the SoundCloud ship is bad good stuff. But yeah, Andrew, 175 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: what is a myth? What is something that most people 176 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: think it's true that you know to be false. Oh man, 177 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: I feel like this one is maybe too easy. But 178 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: the Asian people are industrious thing. I feel like obviously, 179 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, people have started pushing back on that myth, 180 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: but I just want to truly highlight how incredibly lazy 181 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: I am. I think it's just think it's important and 182 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: you represent all Asian people, know well, I I don't 183 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: think I'm an outlier. I think that's the thing. Okay, 184 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: here's a myth that the actual myth was that I'd 185 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: more or less bought into that stuff until I moved. 186 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: Even when I lived in New York, I kind of 187 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: didn't think about that. But when I moved to l 188 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: A where you actually meet a lot of different types 189 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: of Asian Americans, where I was like, ah, yeah, I 190 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: really I love me some like Asian ship head teens. 191 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: I love bad Asian teens because I'm like, I did 192 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: not get to see that when I was growing up, Right, 193 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: I needed that. I need it still. Agent teens hit 194 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: me up. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, alright, we got a lot 195 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: of news to get through today, guys. We are trying 196 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: to take a sample of the global and national share consciousness, 197 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: what people are thinking and talking about right now today 198 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: at the moment we recorded. Uh and at this moment, 199 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: news has just broken within the past hour that Bill 200 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: Cosby has been found guilty. We knew he was guilty, 201 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: but he has been actually found guilty by a jury 202 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: of his peers. Uh. So yeah, we we don't know 203 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: if he's going to prison yet. He apparently left the 204 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: courthouse not in handcuffs. Uh also left the courthouse not 205 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: saying hey hey like he did last time, which was 206 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: real cool. Look, but yeah, so we're going to see 207 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the judges has still yet to sentence him. I don't 208 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: think it's a great sign that Cosby stood up. So 209 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: the prosecutor was saying that they wanted to, uh, you know, 210 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: remove the possibility of bail because Cosby had a personal 211 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: private plane that he had access to, and Cosby at 212 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: that moment stood up in court and said, he does 213 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: not have a private plane, you asshole. And the judge 214 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, I don't think he has a 215 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: private plane. So the judges is like, apparently, just like 216 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: okay with letting Cosby, just Coby letting Cosby riff, you know. 217 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, but this is this like the first 218 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: person who's actually had a trial from like this first 219 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: to celebrity ship. Yeah wow, the man, the man who 220 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: had the famous quote, hey don't put me on me too. Uh, 221 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: he has been put on me too. Now you're learning 222 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: how it works both a time. Um um. Yeah, I'm 223 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: curious to see what, if the how many other people 224 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: are actually gonna be facing like actual legal consequences for 225 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: this kind of ship. Yeah, it feels like very few. Yeah, 226 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, does Harvey Weinstein have something bubbling up? Aren't? 227 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: Aren't people trying to take him to New York. Yeah, 228 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: New York was thinking about it, right. Uh Da in 229 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: New York was like, oh man, we really fucked up 230 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: and now people know about it, right right right, So 231 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: we got caught during favors for rich people to justice 232 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: what we call it judicial make good. Yeah, gotta make 233 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: up that justice, all that justice, Jesus well good good. 234 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: First step, man, you gotta start putting people. They gotta 235 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: start facing actual consequences for their actions. Also, I thought 236 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: he didn't swear Cosby. He called that guy an asshole 237 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: if that's supposed to be the clean guy. Yeah, you know, 238 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I know. This whole thing caught me off surprise. 239 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: He said, asshole. Wow boy, howdy? All right, we want 240 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: to do one more check in with Mr West, Mr Kanye, 241 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: because after we spoke yesterday, we might have talked about 242 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: him specifically shouting out Trump and saying I love Trump 243 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and Maga magamega, and then Trump retweeted him and was 244 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: like this is very cool Kanye, and Kanye retweeted that 245 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: retweet and was like yes and just mute mutual admiration 246 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: society going on and then fucking Chance, like as if 247 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't bad enough already. Chance the Rapper got in 248 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: and was like, hey, Kanye is just being Kanye. Essentially, 249 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: he's the same Kanye he's always been, uh, And then 250 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: so that that's fine, Like he's just kind of being like, hey, 251 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: leave him alone. You know, he's my friend. But then 252 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: he was like, black people don't have to be democrats, 253 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: and that is not the issue. Chance the Rapper, Okay, 254 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: people are not upset because of partisanship, is that people 255 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: are upset with what this president represents. And for someone 256 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: who has much influence in the community, for people of 257 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: color just in general people look up to or looked 258 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: up to, Kanye West, to have him then co signed 259 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: that he can't connect what he is actually aligning himself 260 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: with is what's the most upsetting to me. And I 261 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: don't really want to talk about him anymore because funk, 262 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: this guy, I don't care, Like, at fucking best, he's 263 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: going through some kind of really terrible mental thing, you know, 264 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: and that could explain one reason. At worst, he's just 265 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: trolling people like some people say, no, I mean he's 266 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: just trying to get the album pete the hype up 267 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: for the album, or he's doing this subconsciously. That's actually 268 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: worse to me, because that actually suggests that you are 269 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: so divorced from the reality of a Russian in this 270 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: country that you think you can put a maga hat 271 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: on and not understand that people of colorful like I 272 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: have a visceral reaction to seeing people where a maga hat. 273 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: Not that I'm immediately oh, what the fun is going on? 274 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: But to me, it symbolizes a very dangerous mindset. And 275 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: when you have like reports coming out that a lot 276 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: of the hate crimes that have happened in the last year, 277 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: people have been evoking Trump's name, that's just the kind 278 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: of ship that I don't know, it's just it's really 279 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: it's frightening to see. And I don't know if that's 280 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: because younger people are not fully in tune with what 281 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: is at stake exactly, so when people go will just 282 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: let him have his opinion, This isn't about his opinion. 283 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: That's fine. You can have an opinion about Donald Trump, 284 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: but you also need to understand the nuances of saying like, oh, yeah, man, 285 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: maga all day or whatever. You have to explain that 286 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: a little bit further unless you really are just saying yeah, 287 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: like whatever, it's not a problem like racism doesn't exist 288 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: to me or whatever, and that's the world he's operating in. 289 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: I'd rather just know that that's what he's like, he's 290 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: just lives in that reality, rather than trying to like 291 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: straddle two worlds and be like I don't agree with 292 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: his politics, but also he's my brother dragon energy. Yeah, 293 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: that's been the main pitch is like confidence. I guess 294 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: like is that's the only thing they claims that they 295 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: have in common, and that's that they're seeing through the matrix. 296 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Them and the creator of Dilbert. They're like the three 297 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: NEOs in our matrix world and they were all just 298 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, robots, and they're the only ones who actually 299 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: see through the matrix. Scott Adams is one of those 300 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: dudes who will come like after almost anyone too. Yeah. 301 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: Have you guys talked about him on the show before. Yeah, 302 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: we've talked about Does he ever come after you? No? Not, God, 303 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: please come after us, Scott Adams. I know that's what 304 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. He'll go after not that you know, you're 305 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna be seen as shitty Gebels in the future and 306 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: history books, So please come after us, like you're like 307 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: the really really shitty version of that. At least Gebel's 308 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, at his job, you fucking suck. I 309 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: think that everything the problem with have a good administration 310 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: of like of like like reality show Nazis and charge 311 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: like it's like oops, all girls and because everyone is 312 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: like a propagandists any substance at all. Yeah, um, I'm 313 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: somebody was talking about how they should have seen it 314 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: coming because Trump and Kanye both have this same art 315 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: form that is like the Kanye rant and what we 316 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: call Trump Jazz, which is them just like standing in 317 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: front of a crowd and just like free associating shit 318 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: about like just saying whatever the crowd wants to hear. 319 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: But it's almost like this weird like thing where they 320 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: become symbiotic with the crowd. And it made me think 321 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: of this article, uh I read about pedophiles actually in 322 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the Sandusky scandal, and how like everything 323 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: out child predators their lives, their instincts, their careers, their hobbies, 324 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: like everything they do is developed almost exclusively to just 325 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: put them in a position to prey on children. And like, 326 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: if you're an addict, you know that you can find 327 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: the drug dealer in the room, you know, like you 328 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: just have this like innate sense because you need Yeah, 329 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: that's your oxygen. Your body like needs that, or like 330 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: you put yourself in a position to be lucky a lot, 331 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: like you tiny probes, tiny probes, tiny probes, almost instinctively, 332 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: and then I just get it. And I think that's 333 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: the same ship with Trump and Kanye. They have like 334 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: their whole being is just built around like getting just 335 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: sucking in as much attention and adulation and drama as 336 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: they possibly can to fill just this giant vortex of 337 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: a fucking sucking wound where their soul should be, and 338 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: we just can't. Like, I think the one thing Chance 339 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: said that was right is that this is just Kanye 340 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: being Kanye. This is the same Kanye who you know 341 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: jumped up on that stage and took the fucking mike 342 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: out of Taylor Swift's hand and like said, uh, to 343 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: give the award to Beyonce. Just because he was right 344 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: that one time doesn't mean that like it wasn't coming 345 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: from the same place. It's just that like now this 346 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: side of him, like this sort of need for attention 347 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: has overtaken everything else. It's almost like, you know, the 348 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: historical hypothetical is no longer He's the black beetle. It's 349 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: more like, what if Hitler was a good artist instead 350 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: of like the world's shittiest watercolor painter. If it's like Trump, right, 351 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: those people don't even have opinions on politics either way, 352 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: you like, and they'll just be like, yeah, whatever I'll 353 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: say just for the sake of positive validation or outrage 354 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like they just sort of talk in those terms. Yesterday, 355 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: I was fucking I could not believe what I was seeing, 356 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: and I was trying to wrap my head around what 357 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: how someone who was so openly talking about the imbalance 358 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: of power and justice in this country for people of 359 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: color something could suddenly just not understand what going on 360 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: this Like look at my maga hat, like what that 361 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: signals to people? And now I'm just like, you know what, 362 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: just flame yourself out and just go talk whatever you 363 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: need to. I don't know. I'm exhausted by it and 364 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't know say anymore. Yeah, can I ask a question. 365 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: It's like taking chances statement at face value, which is like, 366 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: this is Kanye, has always been Kanye, this is him 367 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: does that And obviously Twitter in the last two days 368 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: or a day and a half has been an endless 369 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: like separate the artist from the art, separating with more 370 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: desperation than I've ever seen before. Um, but I kind 371 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: of am thinking like this does change the art for 372 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: me a little bit. I don't know which. I'm sorry, 373 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: it's like this kind of stuff and when when you 374 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: kind of like merge the idea that this has always 375 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: been um Kanye, but like initially he could get attention 376 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: by you know, saying the right thing right, you know 377 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: what I mean, like like the way it's just like 378 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: that double edged sword of that charisma and the artistry, 379 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: like when you see it bite the other way. Then 380 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: part of me is like, oh, well, then what the 381 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: funk was the other stuff? Right? You know what I mean? 382 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I sort of agree that. I don't think he's like 383 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's changed because the situation has changed, 384 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: and like his peers have clearly changed. But I don't know, 385 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Like part of me is like, Okay, so what was 386 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: all Like what was the past? Was it? Yeah? You're like, 387 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: what was he talking then? Was that just? Yeah? Was 388 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: that just similarly? Oh I can get attention this way 389 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh that sucks. I don't know, it's 390 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, and I think it's one of those things too, 391 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: is that I don't know if I said this on 392 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: the show, but that we sort of had this this 393 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: base assumption that people who become celebrities are like meaning 394 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: what they say, or that they're they're fully lucid, or 395 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: like that they don't have any kind of personality deficiencies 396 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: that would that would bring you to a moment like this, 397 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: because it's very possible that this was kind of his 398 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: mindset all the time, that he really didn't care about 399 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: really anything like like about what he was rapping, and 400 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: it was just a means to an end of like, 401 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: oh this is like this is popular, I'll do this. Yeah, 402 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: sure it can be. It's like at this point, I've 403 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: spent too much energy trying to like figure this out 404 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: that I just need to move to the point to 405 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: accept like, Okay, you're in the sunken place, figure yourself out. 406 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Talked later just between Morrissey fans, Shania Twain fans, and 407 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Kanye fans. Everyone has everyone's learned something about the people. 408 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: And then Nast we find out nas there was a 409 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: report police was saying that he was abusing her too, 410 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: like God on the fun is going on, but almost 411 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: like a fucking idyllic husband or whatever. But still I 412 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: still read for eighteen year old Naz and that's the 413 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: only NASA. That's what everyone's going to be saying, just 414 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: the first albums of these artists. M Yeah, it's it's 415 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: almost weird that Hitler was such a bad artist, because 416 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: like these people know that, like they need to fill 417 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: that hole with fame, and so they just, like Kanye 418 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: talks about how you like spent a whole summer like 419 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: while everybody was out like being normal humans, he was 420 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: just like hold up in a basement somewhere making beats 421 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: because he like knew that he had this need. He 422 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: was like an incomplete human. And so yeah, they do 423 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: inform each other. Unfortunately, now when you said he's like 424 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Hitler but was good at music, are you saying he 425 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: is like Adolf Hitler or you're just saying just that 426 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: like they're both pathological narcissists, like on the scale of 427 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: Like Bill Burr has a bit about how he heard 428 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: Kanye speak and like the hairs on the back of 429 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: his neck stood up and he didn't know who was speaking. 430 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: He was just like, oh, that sounds like Hitler, Mussolini, 431 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: like that sort of ship, like the way he's talking 432 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: just about himself and about the world, his view in 433 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: the world. Uh. And I I just I think all 434 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: of these people have like a megalomania and a narcissism 435 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: that is just beyond It's like next level ship. And 436 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: that's like you need to fill the whole inside of 437 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: you with all of the world. And in some way, 438 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: maybe his ego is actually what's truly powering his like 439 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: creative ability to It's not even that it's like that 440 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: he's like, no, I have to be creative to achieve 441 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: the attention. Well, and also people respond to that like 442 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: it's just like a confidence reflects that. I just think 443 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: we're seeing a great example of systemic racism here because obviously, 444 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: if Kanye wear white, he would be a dictator. I 445 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: can that's some sneakers in a bummy fashion show. Yea, 446 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: So even at the top, don't don't think systemic racism 447 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: doesn't hit at the top of sociopath All right, we're 448 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back, and 449 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: we're back. And so it's been an eventful morning. Donald Trump, 450 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: the President of the United States, called into his favorite 451 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: uh talkie box program, Fox and Friends. Uh, and just 452 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: like sell p owned for about twenty nine minutes straight. Um, 453 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: it was Screw Jazz solo, Drew Trump Jazz solo. That 454 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: might be a thing with him and coming in like 455 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: they make each other jealous, like they're like, oh, this 456 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: dude's got the spotlight for like the past twenty four hours. 457 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: Now no fun that they're like trading fourth Yeah, exactly exactly, 458 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, Trump came on for a dope Trump Jazz 459 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: solo and what did he do? First of all, this 460 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: was like the kind of rant that reminds me of 461 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: like Golden Air hip hop beef, where a rapper will 462 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: call the radio station like, no, let me tell you 463 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: about jah rule real quick, this motherfucker will not see him. 464 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. That was the same energy that Donald 465 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: Trump was calling into Fox and Friends. And he had 466 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: fucking heat for everybody was come fucking just air any thing. Uh. 467 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: And it was the best thing was seeing how uncomfortable 468 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: the Fox and Friends hosts were because you know, he 469 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: came after everybody, came after Muller, he came after the 470 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: d O J, the FBI, and then was like wait, 471 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm the friend of the FBI. He was. It was 472 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: just pure jazz. So one of the first places he 473 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: really sort of sort of uh incriminated himself for cell phoned, 474 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: as we say, put himself and maybe a little spot 475 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: of legal trouble is when he's talking about Michael Cohen. 476 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: So prior to this, the narrative was that President Donald 477 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Trump had nothing to do with the payment to Storey 478 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: Daniels to keep their affair private. Everyone has said as 479 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen did that. Michael Cohen even said I did 480 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: that unbeknownst to Trump. I was doing that because I'm 481 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: the homie. Yes, I'll put another mortgage out of my 482 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: home so I could pay this, because that's how good 483 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: of a friend I am. Blah blah blah. And even 484 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: on Air Force One, journalists as Mr Trump, Hey, what's 485 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: going on with this payment? He said, I don't know. 486 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about there. You have to talk 487 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: to Michael Cohen. So then on Fox and Friends he 488 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: kind of basically completely contradicts that and sort of admits 489 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: that he did in fact know about it, which is crazy. 490 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: But prior to that, this clip is gonna start with 491 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: him ranting about the d o J and surprisingly, I 492 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: think the Fox and Friends host knew that he or 493 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: maybe they just had enough of this ship. They kind 494 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: of pushed back in an interesting way that I would 495 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: not expect from Fox and Friends if we had a 496 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: Justice Department that was doing their job. You Justice, Mr President, 497 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: Mr President, you're the Republican in charge. You've got a 498 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: Republican here. But I answered this all the time. Because 499 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: of the fact that they have this witch hunt going 500 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: on with people in the Justice Department that shouldn't be there. 501 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: They have a witch hunt against the President of the 502 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: United States going on. I've taken the position, and I 503 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: don't have to take this position, and maybe I'll change that. 504 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: I will not be involved with the Justice Department. I 505 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: will wait till this is over. It's a total uh, 506 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: it's all lies, and it's a horrible thing that's going on, 507 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: a horrible thing, and so I'm very disappointed in my 508 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: Justice Department. But because of the fact that it's going on, 509 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: and I think you'll understand this, I have decided that 510 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: I won't be involved. I may change my mind at 511 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: some point because what's going on is a disgrace. It's 512 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: an absolute disgrace, and by the way, they walk into 513 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: the d n C and they were giving, We're not giving. Okay, 514 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: we'll leave. That's not the FBI, that's a fix. Let's 515 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: talking about Michael Cohen yesterday, crazy asshole. What about Michael 516 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: fIF What what's your reaction to that, being that you 517 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: work with him for a couple of decades as your 518 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: attorney person? What's at stake for you? Mr? Let me 519 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 1: just tell you that Michael is really a businessman at 520 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: fairly big business. As I understand it. I don't know 521 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: his business, and they look in at something having to 522 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: do with this business. I have nothing to do with 523 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: this business. I can tell you he's a good guy. 524 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: But isn't your isn't his business? Your attorney? Mr? President, 525 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: Many many, Just so you understand, I have many attorneys. 526 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: I have attorneys you sadly, I have so many attorneys. 527 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: You wouldn't even believe how much, said how much as 528 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: a percentage of my overall legal work at tiny, tiny, 529 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: little fraction. But Michael would represent me and represent me 530 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: on some things. He represents me, like with this crazy 531 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels deal. He reprelated me and you know, from 532 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: what I see, he did absolutely nothing wrong. If there 533 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: were no campaign funds going, and why is he pleading 534 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: with a problem, because he's got other things. He's got businesses, 535 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: and from what I understand, they're looking at his businesses, 536 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: and I hope he's in great shape. But I'm not 537 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: involved and I'm not involved. And I've been titled I'm 538 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: not involved when he came out of them. I've been 539 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: told I'm not involved. Wow, he's just there. You can 540 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: even tell there like, oh funk, we're gonna have to 541 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: be the guardrails now where your lawyers now. It's like 542 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: having when like a sports talk radio show takes a 543 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: caller and they're like, oh it. They immediately realized the 544 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: color is crazy and they're just like trying to like 545 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, okay, so what about this other thing 546 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: to get you to stop? As we were talking like 547 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: just getting cut off. With anyone else, they would have 548 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: cut his Mike. Yeah, it just happens to be that 549 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: that color is the president, so we can't really cut 550 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: him on. It's wild because he just started off like 551 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't know her about Michael Comen and then said 552 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: he's like, well, yeah, he represented me an that deal. Second, 553 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: my man, that's completely so that's a huge complication. Uh. 554 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: And then later on he as his solo was moving along, 555 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: he then put his crosshairs on James Comy because you know, 556 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: he was saying that James called me, lied or whatever 557 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: about him. I guess in the memos that call me 558 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: lied about Trump saying that he didn't spend the night 559 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: in Moscow on the night of the p tape. Uh. 560 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: And this is another just interesting moment from the President too. 561 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: I went to Russia for a day or so, a 562 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: day or two because I owned the Miss Universe pageant, 563 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: so I went there to watch it because it was 564 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: near Moscow. So I go to Russia. Now I didn't 565 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: go there. Everybody knows. The logs are there, the planes 566 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: of him. He said, I didn't stay there, And of 567 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: course I stayed there. I stayed there time. But of 568 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: course I stayed. Well, his memo said I left immediately, 569 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: but I never said that. I never said I left immediately. Yeah, okay, 570 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: Well that's another weird thing, because I think most people 571 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: believe James called me. Polling even shows that over the President. 572 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, what's interesting too, is like there's so much 573 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: evidence that points to the fact that he was there 574 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: like Kurt Schiller's bodyguard was like, yeah, we stayed the 575 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: night there, and then the flight logs are like, yeah, 576 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: they didn't leave until the next day, and so I 577 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: guess maybe he saw like oh shit, okay, this is 578 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: not this is not vague enough for me to lie 579 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: is like, yeah, of course I was there, James Comb, 580 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: he's lying that I was there, but I had said 581 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I was. Yeah. It gets very weird, and what's crazy, 582 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: Like even the Fox and Friends people were just didn't 583 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: know even know how to like do we question him 584 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: like real journalists and wait, we're real political style and 585 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: like like real muppets or you know, what do we do? 586 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: And they were in a in a weird spot. They 587 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: have the president live on the phone on their live 588 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: TV show where the president is the most important person 589 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: to anybody watching, and he's so incoherent and so just 590 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: clearly out of his fucking mind that they basically like 591 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: have to like cut him off. Like at the end, 592 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: I think we have the end of the conversation. How 593 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: would you grade yourself? Now? I would give myself an 594 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: A plus. Nobody has done what I've been able to do, 595 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: and I did it despite the fact that I have 596 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: a phony cloud over my head that doesn't exist. But 597 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: does it make you want to talk to and put 598 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: an end to it? Doesn't make you want to talk 599 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: to him, because that's what the problem is. That it's 600 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: such a it's such if you take a look, they're 601 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: so conflicted. The people that are doing the investigation. You 602 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: have thirteen people that are Democrats. And by the way, 603 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: you take a poll at the FBI. I love the FBI. 604 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: The FBI love to be but the top people in 605 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: the FBI, headed by Comey, we're crooked. And you look 606 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: at the corruption at the top of the FBI. It's 607 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: a disgrace. And Justice Department, which I try and stay 608 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: away from, but at some point I won't out of 609 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: Justice Department should be looking at that kind of stuff, 610 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: not the nonsense of collusion with Russia. There is no 611 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: collusion with me in Russia and everyone knows that. Everyone. 612 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: We We talked to you all day, but it looks 613 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: like you have a million things to do. I hope 614 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: you can join us again, Mr President. Good luck with 615 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: your book. It's gonna be a winner than you. Happy birthday. 616 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: You'll see you next Thursday, Mr President. Calling again. Sometime 617 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: they're like they keep trying to like, okay, just hang up, man, 618 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: you must be so busy. It is such an incredible well, 619 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: it's like, we can talk to you all day, and 620 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: he's like, I could. There somebody can talk to your 621 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: days like I could, but you're busy, so we're gonna 622 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: give you that out. The other thing that clearly happens 623 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: is every time he calls in, they have to tell 624 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: him to turn down Fox and Friends the TV he's 625 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: watching someone on the radio. Yeah, yeah, they're for sure. 626 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: They're like, we're getting a little feedback, like they have 627 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: to your radio down a little bit. Okay where you 628 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: calling from? He's like, what he has to get an 629 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: aid to mute Fox and Friends. Yeah. It's all just 630 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: very interesting. And the other thing, too, is what's amazing 631 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: is Miche Labnati, I think immediately entered this call into 632 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: Evan is Stormy Daniels lawyer, who is the fucking like 633 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: the lawyer who has been the troll troll, the real 634 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: troll amazingly. And also on Morning Joe, Mike Labnati was 635 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: on while this was happening, and they were like laughing 636 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: about it, and he's like, Okay, this is the weird 637 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: thing he said. He kind of got a little messy. 638 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: He was basically saying that it's possible that the one 639 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: point six million dollar payment that Elliott Broidy, who was 640 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: the the fundraiser that had to resign, who was also 641 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: one of Michael Cohen's quote unquote clients. There are three clients. 642 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: There was Trump, there was Elliot Hannity. Elliott Broidy was 643 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: the only one that we had like very specific details 644 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: right that he paid a playmate one point six million 645 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: dollars to have an abortion. So it was yeah, one 646 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: point six million dollar abortion payout. Uh. And what Michael 647 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: Avnadi says, He goes, Mika, you know, like who were 648 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: the three clients that like were Michael Cohen's that were 649 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: named and Jory Daniels lawyers saying is asking her the 650 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: most one of the hosts of Morning Joe, which is 651 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: the thing he presumably knows. Yeah, but you know, he's 652 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: trying to be a lawyer, you know what socratic and ship. 653 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: So he's like, yo, so who were they? And he 654 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: she says the President, Elliott Broidy, and Sean Hanny goes, no, 655 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: So you're making the same mistake everybody else's because Elliot 656 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: Broidy was never actually named an open court as a 657 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: client of Michael Cohen's. Those three entities were Donald Trump, 658 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: the Trump Enterprise, and Sean Hannity. So he was basically saying, 659 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: we will find out soon if in fact this payment 660 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: was made on behalf of Elliott Broidy. And then it 661 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: was like, and I'm just leaving at that. So I 662 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: don't know what he was trying to say, but he 663 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: was basically hinting that maybe this payment had nothing to 664 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: do with Elliot Broidy, and maybe Elliot Broidy was being 665 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: the fall guy for someone else. So that was an 666 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: interesting tidbit. Now that's just speculation. But Mike Lavenati, you know, 667 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: he likes to be messy, and that was clearly something 668 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: he was trying to do. It a funk around or 669 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: rise some feathers or something. Okay, okay, Like in terms 670 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: of embarrassment, it's like this, obviously there's no bottom for 671 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: like Trump's sace. No, no, no, just think like he 672 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: paid somebody to have an abortion that would alienate the 673 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: like religious right. I don't know, there's nothing. He would 674 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: just be like I've sinned and they'd be like, yeah, yeah, 675 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean, because it's like those people should have been 676 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: alienated if they were gonna be and they've been on 677 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: board for everything. So yeah, like you said, I don't 678 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: think there is a bomb, and then not that this 679 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: would be even more handalist, but it's just an interesting 680 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: tidbit well of like how just tangled and fucking wacky 681 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: this whole relationship between Trump and Calling is and who 682 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: knows where it will lead? All right, let's move on 683 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: to more messiness involving the Trump administration because his pick 684 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: to lead the v A a man with very little 685 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: managerial experience. Dr Ronnie Jackson a k a ron ron 686 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: Jacksie Babies a k The funk doctor, Mr punk Rocker 687 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: got the drug stock up in the lunchbox here. Yeah, 688 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: so complaints started out with, uh, you know, he handed 689 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: out a couple of ambient on overseas flights to you know, 690 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: the president's staff Obama and Bush's staff, and maybe a 691 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: couple of provigial to help pet people up a little 692 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: bit once they landed somewhere. And you know, maybe he 693 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: got a little too drunk on a couple of those 694 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: trips and couldn't be resuscitated when he was needed to 695 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: like do his job, and so they had to take 696 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: his credentials to another backup doctor. Uh. And you know, 697 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: he couldn't be resuscitated or he couldn't be woken up 698 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: like he was. He was so drunk they couldn't wake 699 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: him up. That's dope. And and then there's also the 700 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: story where he almost woke President Obama because he was 701 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: drunkenly pounding on a female subordinates door trying to get 702 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: her to let him in so he could presumably like 703 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: sexually harass her before passing out on her floor. You know, 704 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: that's not so bad. Happens to the best of us. Uh. 705 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: And the press tried to get like back up on 706 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: a couple of those things, and they were like, we're 707 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: not getting anything from the you know, Obama administration officials. 708 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: They're all saying he's like the best guy. Uh. But 709 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: it turns out like stuff kept coming out. Turns out 710 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: he not only got drunk on the road, he got 711 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: so drunk at a secret Service retirement party that he 712 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: crashed a government car. He was frequently known to like 713 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: give and take prescription drugs like around just the office, 714 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: including controlled substances like percocet. Uh. Yeah, Ronnie Percocet, uh 715 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: they call him. But yeah, he was just like an 716 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: all around funk up, which makes me wonder, like I 717 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: think those Obama administration officials that they were like trying 718 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: to get back up from where like, man, he hooked 719 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: it up exactly what the other thing too, like your 720 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: drug deal. Most people were like, everyone was like, yo, 721 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: it's very normal for them to hand you sleep aids 722 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: and provigil on these trips because like when you're doing 723 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: like diplomatic missions and ship, you're on a plane, you're 724 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: in a completely different time zone, and then you've got 725 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: to be ready active to do the thing. So most 726 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: people were kind of like, yes, that's actually pretty normal 727 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: if he's a role that's needed in the government. Yeah, 728 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: he's writing like kind of on the fly prescriptions for people, 729 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,959 Speaker 1: like the same way like providial was invented to help 730 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: fighter pilots like stay awake while they're like fucking flying 731 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: around the world to go do missions. So it's not 732 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: that big a if he's given to other people, But 733 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: if he's prescribing himself percocet and then like popping pills 734 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: in the office and like also just the reports of 735 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: like what it was like to work for him, about 736 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: like people use the words like toxic, abusive, volatile, vindictive, 737 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: like yeahs masculine. He he kissed up and kicked down, 738 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: they said, like he was just a fucking awful the 739 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: shittiest guy you work with. That's why this ship isn't 740 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: as like crazy as the fact that this is the 741 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: White House can't pick people that are appropriate for these jobs, right, 742 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: so that you could almost argue, Okay, you almost need 743 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: someone that's basically this guy to be like the dark 744 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: part of keeping the government running, Like you have to 745 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: give people speed evidently to run the government. So if 746 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: that's a given, then that doctor is gonna end up 747 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: being like this. You just don't promote him, right, you 748 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: just don't make him the head of the second largest 749 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: like how many people, I think it's three. And it's 750 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: not just about medical killer either, it's like a financial 751 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: body to like of giving assistance to veterans. So he 752 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: was just wholly unprepared and unqualified for this thing. And 753 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: it's just again, this method of of hiring at the 754 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: White House is like, Yo, that dude's chill. Which cabinet 755 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: should he runs? Which departments here, we can control this 756 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: guy because we've seen him do as much. Yeah, like 757 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: we were saying, other administrations would have vetted him, sniffed 758 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: all this ship out like months in advance or weeks 759 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: in advance. Uh. But instead of doing that, Trump's method 760 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: was to just be like, yeah, he seems like a 761 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: good guy. Let's use him. And then when the media 762 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: revealed all this ship, he was like, you know, if 763 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: I were you, i'd drop out. That was an actual headline, 764 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: like Trump gassed me up to get out there. Yeah, 765 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: but now, man, I'm like, I wouldn't. Now it looks 766 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: like a mistake. Ma, man Right, For me, Trump is 767 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: that asshole cousin who like runs up to the edge 768 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: of the pool and then stop something jumping. Feel though that, like, 769 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: I genuine me think there's not that much artifice with 770 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: these people. They're like they believe it. They're like, yeah, 771 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: he's a boy, he's a boy, we get to do 772 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: what we want. And then they're like, oh, he's not 773 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: our boy. I guess hey, you should really drop out 774 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: my brind right, No, yeah, yeah. They just don't know 775 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: that there's any such thing as a more functional administration. 776 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: They just think that everybody is as big a funk 777 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: up as them, so right, and they also don't know 778 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: any better doctors to be right, Dr Oz will probably next. 779 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, anybody named Ronnie, doctor Ronnie. I don't know. 780 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,479 Speaker 1: It sounds like a porn star doctor Ronnie, the drug 781 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: dealing doctor, right, yeah, yeah, it does sound like the 782 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: cool doctor who gets you drugs. All right, we're gonna 783 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we're back. And for this 784 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: third act, we wanted to bring in a couple of 785 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: our fellow podcasters from our network we have with a 786 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: stream Unite and superproducer on a Hosnier who have a 787 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: podcast on this very network called Ethnically Ambiguous, where they 788 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: talk about uh, Middle Eastern issues and history and generally 789 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: what it's like to be round person in America. Welcome guys, 790 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: than ladies. Welcome, Yeah, thank you. I got in trouble 791 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 1: for saying that. That's why I say y'all for everyone. Stop. 792 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: That's nothing. Yeah in Pittsburgh. I heard it from people 793 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania. Yeah. Anyway, anyways, we digress. You guys. This 794 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: past week had what I think is one of your 795 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: finest episodes yet, talking about Syria and all the complexities 796 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: surrounding the conflict they're sharing. Your family is from Syria. Correct, Uh, 797 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: oh you knew that, Okay, I thought I was just 798 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: breaking news that And I feel like you gave people 799 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: You guys both gave people a great way into comprehending 800 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: that conflict because I think a lot of a lot 801 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: of what you guys deal with, like on your podcast, 802 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: is the fact that you live amongst Americans who are 803 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: just like the Middle East. Yeah, I'm vaguely aware of 804 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: that as a place where war is um. But yeah, 805 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: so can you talk a little bit about, like is 806 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: there any like one way that has been successful and 807 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: like sort of getting people to understand and care about Syria? 808 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: Damn um, Thanks for having me and thanks for that 809 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: very heavy question. I mean, I think just being kind 810 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: of the token Syrian and a lot of people's lives 811 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: has made them at least be aware that Syria is 812 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: like a place. And I mean I went through a 813 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: phase definitely where I was like spamming my social media 814 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: being like you have to care about this, this has 815 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: happened in your worldma, But that doesn't really do anything productive. 816 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: I've learned, and just being a human being and being 817 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: someone kind and when someone hears the word Syrian or something, 818 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: they could be like, oh, I know someone that's the 819 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: dope and they're from Syria and I should pay attention 820 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: to this, or like something I think that. Um, I 821 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: don't know, I've i've I feel like having the podcast 822 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: that's giving me an outlet to you just to be like, 823 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: if anyone wants to know how I feel, just listen 824 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: to this episode. I don't feel like we can get you, 825 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: guys to condense what's so good about that episode down 826 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: into like a single answer, but I just put you 827 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: on the spot and asked you to do that. No, 828 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate you thinking that was a good 829 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: episode because I usually hate everything they do. But I 830 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: like that episode, so I'm glad you liked it. That 831 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome, I got that imposter and also self deprecating trash. 832 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: I feel like the best this is Anna. I feel 833 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: like the best way to get people to pay attention 834 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: about anything going on in the Middle East is to 835 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: give them like an approachable, like modern millennial version of it. 836 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: Because if you just show someone a photo of a 837 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: bunch of women and like he job and or like Burkas, 838 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: they're like, I don't understand, and this to me reminds 839 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: me of nine eleven, and it just nothing goes through 840 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: their mind except for that. So I think our approach 841 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: is always to be like, guys, we're cool, we're chill, 842 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: look at us, but just like you, which is as 843 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: dumb as it's. Yeah, like that's just how it comes. YEA, yeah, no, 844 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: it's true, And I think you just got to show 845 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, millennials, flip your hat around, we're here 846 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 1: and break someone's fidget spinner and be like, yeah, we're here. 847 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's the other thing. We'll get into that 848 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: in another second called fidget spinner justice. But I think 849 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: it's true, you know, like I can totally see how 850 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 1: for people not knowing anyone from Syria or Iran or whatever. 851 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: It's abstract when you don't, and then it's easy to 852 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: just you know, have a pattern of thought as to 853 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: what a person is like, or what an American who's 854 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: Iranian American or Syrian American, what that's like. And I think, yeah, 855 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: it's not even that you have by designer like oh many, 856 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: like let's let's be super millennials, but you're just being 857 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: authentically like, hi, I'm also in this country and I 858 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: just came from this other place. So thank you. That's it. 859 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: Get rid of all other preconceived ideas you had about 860 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 1: people from my country, because I'm also just like you. Yeah, 861 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: except I have a little bit more to deal with 862 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: right now emotionally than most people do. Like I vape 863 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, yeah, just like you. They're just like 864 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: they're just like and sure, and you're a sick rollerblader, 865 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, I saw you do a soul 866 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: grind on your way in here. Yeah. Check my Instagram story. Yeah, 867 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: it's on there. My favorite kind of improvress. Oh yeah, yeah, 868 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. Okay, So you guys are both or 869 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: you guys both have families from countries that are listed 870 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: in the president's ban, and you were actually flying to 871 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 1: Iran a week after the travel ban was announced. But 872 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: the Supreme Work just heard arguments on that travel band yesterday. 873 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: Do you guys have any sort of thoughts on Are 874 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: you a fan of the travel Band? Yeah? So huge fan, 875 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: so excited about it. Okay, great. I always say you 876 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: haven't lived until you've been banned. Yeah, but no, I'm 877 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: not a fan. I think it's stupid. It's totally a 878 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: Muslim band. They just can't admit it. Like remember how 879 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: like Trump went through and was like, here's all my 880 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: rhetoric anti Muslim, hate them, they don't like us, and 881 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: then what the Christians can come over here if you're 882 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: Christians are just good old you know, that's what he said. 883 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: He did specifically, Yeah, um, I do think no one 884 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: is very informed about what Islam is because what did 885 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: one of his lawyers call it, like the greatest country 886 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: or something like that, which is just like the Inspector 887 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: General talking to the Supreme Court as he was closing 888 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: his argument and he's like, you know, the president, Yeah, 889 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 1: he thinks Muslims have their great Americans and are good people. 890 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: And he's continuously said Islam is one of the greatest 891 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: countries in the world. Now we can give him the 892 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: benefit like the day, like guess what he said, right, right, 893 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: guess what he thinks. He's He's like, no, I can't 894 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: be well, Islam isn't on the travel band list because 895 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 1: that's the greatest country, so how can be a Muslim band? 896 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, giving him the benefit of 897 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: the doubt, he was maybe just sort of mentally exhausted 898 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: as he said it. But part of me is also like, 899 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: if you're arguing in front of the Supreme Court and 900 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: you can't even like even go back and be like, 901 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't mean country, I mean religion, because 902 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't have the respect to take a fucking provigial 903 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,919 Speaker 1: before you stepped in front of exactly wake up, yeah called. 904 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: And also even if even if you said that statement, right, 905 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: we're to believe that toronal Trump said that Islam is 906 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 1: one of the greatest religions in the world, right, Yeah, 907 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: I don't think so. On the campaign trail, he says 908 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: Islam hates us. Yeah, it's like Islam don't. Whole campaign 909 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: was about fear, and he chose Muslims to be the 910 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: people to be afraid of. And me and Anna both 911 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: know this. But like immigrating to the United States from 912 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: the Middle East, especially Syria, it has always been really hard. 913 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: And I have uncles that have waited ten years, just 914 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 1: like in the regular visa program, just to be able 915 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: to come here. So the fact that there was a 916 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: Muslim ban made it even harder for anyone to leave. 917 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the travel band, I guess, but it's 918 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: a Muslim ban um. But it's uh, it's a little 919 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: ridiculous because it's like we're just like stuck in this 920 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: time warp where it's like there's always going to be 921 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: one ethnicity or group of people that is to go 922 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: to scapegoat, right, whether it's Latino immigrants or black people, 923 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 1: or Japanese immigrants or Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Like, yeah, 924 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: there's always been the immigrant group that it's it's like, 925 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: oh this point finger and be scared of them now. Yeah, 926 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: And it's really frustrating. I I feel like I have 927 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: a lot of actor friends and people in entertain industry 928 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: and the look at me and be like whoa, yeah, 929 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: like your type is really in right now because it's 930 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: so like it's so like, uh, I don't know, controversial, 931 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,919 Speaker 1: so like just like you know what, Like I would 932 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: rather not be because of that reason, Like I'd rather 933 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: people like think I'm interesting and not because like, ill, 934 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,280 Speaker 1: that's that's a very much I think white entergy hainter 935 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,399 Speaker 1: mindset of right. Oh my god, you can get any 936 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: role right now exactly. It's like no idea how hard 937 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: it is you guys blood and that whole ship is like, uh, 938 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: take that somewhere else as also that's a lie, that's 939 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: their agents told them because they didn't want to say 940 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: they're not good enough. Right, It's actually it's all about 941 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 1: diversity right now, I guess what it's not if you're Asian. 942 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, literally there, look at TV and movies. 943 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: It's not all about diversity. Yet they're like three shows. 944 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean, Miles, you were talking about past 945 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: types of discrimination, Like one of the uh precedents, like 946 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: one of the only sort of standing laws that they 947 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: have that relates to the Travel Band, and like it's 948 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: standing in front of the Supreme Court is uh the 949 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: Japanese Internment and like the last time a president was like, yeah, no, 950 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: let's get rid of all of these people. Uh yeah, 951 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: And and the Supreme Court found in favor of that, 952 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: and that was seen as a huge dark moment and 953 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: one of the darkest moments in the history of the 954 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. And it's still not overturned, right, And people 955 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: who are arguing in favor of the Travel Band have 956 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 1: used it as President been like well as the Supreme 957 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 1: Court said in this case. Yeah, but also they were 958 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: suppressing like evidence that showed Japanese people weren't actively plotting 959 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: against the United States, Like that ship was all fucking 960 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: it was so much funk. Are we going on with that? 961 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: And they've still the governments still distances themselves from that 962 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 1: because again it's the same pattern of saying, let's discriminate 963 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: against this group with the guys of national security. Yeah, 964 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: because someone has to be feared, because there has to 965 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: be a good guy and a bad guy. Weren't always 966 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 1: the good guys. There's always someone out to get us, right, 967 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: And I guess I mean, like the couple of differences 968 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: that I mean, like just to point out is obviously 969 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: the Roosevelt thing was dealing with people that were living 970 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: inside of the US, like including people who were actual citizens. 971 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: So h it's it's slightly different because Trump's executive order 972 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: really applies to foreigners living abroad, so like the constitutionality 973 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: of it is not necessarily one to one, I think, 974 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: but I think it like seeps in because there's also 975 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: like DOCCA and like all these things getting deported, and 976 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: I think it all kind of meshes together because that 977 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,919 Speaker 1: mentality of fear seeps into other parts of your life. 978 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: People that I've lived here for their whole life are 979 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: now seen as less American or something, you know, I 980 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 1: purely mean on the legal face of Yeah, obviously the 981 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 1: sentiment is the exact same, which is just singling out 982 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: a group for people to just basically discriminate. And now 983 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 1: the group is the people from these majority Muslim nations, right, 984 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: And the fact that the people who support the band 985 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: are drawing the comparison proves that they are viewing it 986 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: in the same way. They're viewing it as a way 987 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: to just blanket ban a whole type of people. Well, 988 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: and also they're at like the perfect time because it's 989 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: like for racists. They were like, we really hope Corea 990 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: Montster doesn't get overturned, right right, Like, so let's fucking 991 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: worst this ship. But I I don't think anyone has quite 992 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: brought it up yet. I know that was the thing 993 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: that many people are being like, is someone actually going 994 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: to bring this up? Like, is one of the justice 995 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: is going to bring it up? I don't, I don't know. 996 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: Here's here to me the darkest possibility, which is like 997 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: it does get brought up and our conservative as supreme 998 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: courts like they're like, well, this is the law of 999 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: the land. We can absolutely discrimination proof. We're living in 1000 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: the darkest timeline. It's just like I just think that's 1001 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: a possibility, right, Like everyone sort of thinks that the 1002 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,720 Speaker 1: basic human decency of people, like five Supreme Court justices, 1003 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 1: it's gonna be whether or not they want to bury 1004 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: their head in the sand and act like this isn't 1005 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: about people who are Muslim, just being like on the 1006 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: face of it, they're saying it's just these countries. I 1007 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: don't see that it's you know, motivated by any kind 1008 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: of I just think like just irracial animus at every 1009 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: moment during this last two years, it's like the kind 1010 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: of like petty social things that we thought were holding 1011 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 1: the racist back from the worst of it have turned 1012 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: out to be remarkably flimsy, Like at every chance, like 1013 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 1: all the social mores that you're like, well, they wouldn't 1014 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: do this, and it's like, oh, they for sure, we'll 1015 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: do this. But their their arguments also like you're going 1016 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: to ban these people from these countries to protect the 1017 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: country because they're going to do something bad here or something, 1018 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: but when in reality, the majority of terrorists acts or 1019 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: violence in this country are done by white men, right, 1020 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: And that's just that argument. I mean, people just forget 1021 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: about that because there's like, well, those people had mental problems. 1022 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: It's just a narrative though that it doesn't jibe with 1023 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: what a lot of these conservatives want to or the 1024 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: narrative that they want to push, which is immigrants equal danger. Anyways, Shrine, 1025 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Super producer Anna Hosnie, 1026 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Where can people 1027 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: find you? Guys? We have a website ethnically Ambiguous pod 1028 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: dot com. You can look at our episodes over there 1029 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: and all our footnotes and I think and um, just 1030 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: look us up on Instagram ethnically am I G and 1031 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: then Twitter ethnically am A m B. And we post 1032 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: some stuff over there, and you should follow us and 1033 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: keep up and subscribe to the show. It's a fun 1034 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: time and we post a lot of news and stuff 1035 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: on our Twitter and all that, and they'll occasionally take 1036 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 1: shots at me and my high pitched laugh and things 1037 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I I didn't know it was your 1038 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: spinner too. That's fine, you know, we don't have to 1039 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: bring that up. But while we're here, I will be 1040 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: seeking restitutions. I'm still using in it. It's still fine, 1041 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: Still spins. Thanks Andrew still spins, it's not how it 1042 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: used to. It's ironic that it's an American. Yeah, and 1043 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: it's funny because her majesty my Queen purchased that in Washington, 1044 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: d C. Two very American. I like. Also, though it's 1045 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: broken in a specific way that you can see the 1046 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: inside of it, it's great and it's hollow and so 1047 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: you're welcome. Oh my goodness, Andrew, I dropped on the ground. 1048 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Hit me up? Listen to yo? 1049 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 1: Is this racist? On podcast? Apps? Um? Stuff has changed 1050 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: in the next couple weeks. Get Ready it was a 1051 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: guest on that podcast. Yeah, it was time. It was 1052 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: super great. Actually, everyone in this room has been on 1053 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: the podcast, so those episodes, yeah, it was it was fantastic. 1054 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: Mostly culture kings on there too, right, yeah, all the 1055 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: I've had everyone I know here has been on. It's 1056 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: the podcast. But we're making we're making the changes in 1057 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: fact to everyone here. You guys might do if you 1058 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: want to hear a preview of the new theme song 1059 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: after we get off air, you can hear that exclusive 1060 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: ohen hit me up on Twitter. Andrew t last n 1061 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: hiss beil t I. It's all cap I know it 1062 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, but just do it. It makes you feel better. Miles, 1063 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: where can people find you? You can find me on 1064 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Great. Can find me 1065 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us 1066 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: at Daily's I Guys on Twitter. We're at the Daily's 1067 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: like guys on Instagram. We have a faithbook fan page 1068 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: and a website daily zeys dot com where we post 1069 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: our episodes and air but nobody. We link off to 1070 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: the information that we talked about today's episode, as well 1071 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 1: as the song that we ride out on which to 1072 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: day Miles, what is it okay? I can't listen to 1073 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: hip hop right now. I'm just trying to repair my 1074 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: brain cells. Last night, I'm not even joking. I listen 1075 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,919 Speaker 1: to Arizade fucking black Home anyway. Cut to today's song. 1076 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: Just a nice cover of a Arcaic Buyer song to 1077 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: Suburbs by a group Mr Little Jeans. I just like 1078 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: this cover. It's just soothing. It's a little more on 1079 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: the electric side. Uh, and it's just I just you know, 1080 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: let's just think of easier times right now, so we 1081 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: have a lot to get through them. But my favorite 1082 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: tweet today by at Seeing boy Varsy. Uh Job Rule 1083 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: tweeted this morning, I'm one of the most influential rappers 1084 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: of all time and uh seeing boy Varsy tweeted, job 1085 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: We're dealing with a lot today, not now, please every 1086 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: come on alright, We're gonna write out on that. We 1087 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow because to do the daily podcast. 1088 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: Talk to you guys. That and the suburbside. I learned 1089 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: to drive and you told me you have a Sulie, 1090 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: got your mother skis will leave youway seems so short. No, 1091 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: one day we'll be fighting on a suban war, go 1092 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: up a little town against fight. I saw you standing 1093 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: in the opposite shot. By the time the first months fell, 1094 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: we were alread. We are already already. Some times can 1095 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 1: all times. Sometimes I can pass. The kids want to 1096 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: be so hard. But in my dreams, weighs a screen 1097 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: through the yard. All of the walls at the build 1098 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and southern finally fall, and all of the houses, the 1099 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 1: build and the seven as the final we fall, m 1100 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: nothing at all, And then love can pass. Some times 1101 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: I can believe I won't passed three D distant. I 1102 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: want a daughter while I'm still young. I want to 1103 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: hold her and shots some beauty before damage is done. 1104 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: But if it's too much to ask him, it's too 1105 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: much stress. The sun song, day of the past in 1106 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 1: the fucking round Stoway inside the wan. So move your 1107 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: faith from my payment until the lads. This is always, 1108 01:02:23,840 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 1: it's always m A S. Say trims a tree usually 1109 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: plans the tree tru