1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now, 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: here's your host, Paul Charchian. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm Paul Charchian. Co host 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: today Kent Wyrock. 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: Hey, Kent, Hey, how are we doing? Paul Well? 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: I spent last weekend at Circa Swim in Las Vegas 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: for the Scott Fishbowl, the first drafts len of the 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Scott Fish Bowl season. And as much as I love Minnesota, 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: and as much as I love the Minnesota event, it 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: ain't the same as being at Stadium Swim at Circa. 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: Let me tell you, Kent, oh, one hundred percent. I've 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: been there for a different fantasy draft actually, and I 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: was out there with some buddies, so we had a 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: lot of fun. And man, it's it's that plays down 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: in the downtown is like nothing else that that's around it. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's the oasis of downtown. 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: Isn't Circa Fremont Street and all the man that's going 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: on there, And then down at the end you got 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: circa just lighten up the city. 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: All right now, since we're talking about Fremont Street, and 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to go old man and everybody shaking 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: his fist in the front lawn. But Fremont Street has 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: got people bring their kids all the time to Fremont Street. A. 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be bringing your kid to Fremont Street. It's 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: like every twelfth person is smoking a doobie. There's a 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, barely clothed people. There's all the all the 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: weed shops, there's these all these T shirt places that 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: have got really really deeply disturbing T shirts and just 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: stuff that no kids should have to have, that you 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: know should have that, in my opinion, have all of 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: that input on them. And so I got two the 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: two problems with the parents and some of them I 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: think don't know how bad it's going to be until 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: they get there. And then I just don't think Las 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: Vegas should should have that stuff in such in an 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: area that is where you know you're going to track families. 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that stuff shouldn't exist. I just think 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be somewhere where you know it's swarming with families. 42 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: But Paul, what about the guys wearing the twelve year 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: old Ninja turtle costumes asking you for money? 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? Getting sure friendly, Well right exactly. That that bugs 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: me too, is you know, like every fifteen feet there's 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: some performer trying to shake you down for money. 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: Oh, big time. It's a shakedown city. I mean, if 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: we're being honest, well. 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: It's certainly become a shakedown city. But I had the 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: first I had the six pick of the Scout fish Bowl. 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: And this new weird scoring system Kent is basically anybody 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: with a ball in their hand a lot is worth 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: a lot. Tight ends are still at a premium. And 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: so with pick six overall, I took the second tight 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: end off the board in Trey McBride. 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: I was gonna say it was Bowers one, huh and 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: then McBride second. 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. He prow was the first to go, and 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: then McBride. And honestly, I don't I don't necessarily have 60 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: a problem with that. In round two, I got to 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Pukinnakua was there in the middle of round two, so 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'll do that. A lot of quarterbacks. 63 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: There were five quarterbacks taken in the first round and 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: just yeah and yeah, and so I decided I didn't 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: intend to, didn't go into the draft planning to slough quarterback, 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: but I did, and I ended up later taking Drake May, 67 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Love, Gino Smith, and now I may take a 68 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: couple more stabs at quarterback later. But you know, we 69 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: don't have anything to go by. We were the very 70 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: first draft to go off the board, so we don't 71 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: have any Scott fish Bowl ADP. We don't have a president. 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: We're not you know, we didn't crack open the scoring 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: system necessarily the way people are going to later on. 74 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some people doing some mock drafts out there. 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: You can, you can find a little bit of information 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: if you want. But what I've found over the years 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: that when you get to the real deal, people pull 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: out the strategies that they've keeping up their sleeves even 79 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: through the mock draft season. So, uh, it's pretty tough 80 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: to get a good read on Scott Fishful stuff before 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: it happens, because it's different every year. It's always something 82 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: new with Scott and and it's great. I love that 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: because it you know, it's a good reason for me 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: to kind of go through the numbers a little bit. 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: See how it affects things like are people going to 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: be asleep at the wheel going through their normal routines 87 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: or are they going to be prepared to know what's 88 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: a little bit more valuable in this type of scoring. 89 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a lot of fun Two because it's 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: all flex this year. There are no mandatory positions at all. 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: One of our teams went seven straight running backs to 92 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: open the draft, and one of them went six straight 93 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers to open the draft, and that's this is 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: the only time you're ever going to do that. 95 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna say that that's funny to me because 96 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm want to be drafting any 97 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: wide receivers. If I'm being honest, you don't find out. Yeah, yep, Yeah, 98 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: it's it's a weird scoring system, for sure. 99 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: It is. And some people have got are going to 100 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: have some real advantages if they if they cracked the 101 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: code early on it for sure. Speaking of drafting a 102 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: a lot of receivers early today, you and I are 103 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: going to talk about do the opposite. Now Kent, longtime 104 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: listeners are familiar with do the opposite because we've been 105 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: talking about it on this show for almost twenty years, 106 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: and then some guy put his own spin on it, 107 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: while it's not his own spin, he took, he took 108 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: our spin, called it zero running Back, and he had 109 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: a bigger platform than this podcast did, apparently, and the 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: thing took off. But we're talking about fundamentally the same thing. 111 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: It originated here on this show and in the print 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: versions of Fantasy Football Weekly, and we still call it 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: do the opposite because we know that we were first 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: by a decade and we're not a Johnny come Lately 115 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: to this concept. The IgA idea Kent, as you probably know, 116 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: is that running backs have the highest injury rate and 117 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: the highest failure rate. So we shouldn't be spending our first, 118 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: our most valuable picks at the top of the draft 119 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: on the most dangerous position, and we should put that 120 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: risk into the middle of our draft and go with 121 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: other other position players quarterbacks, wide receivers, and tight ends. 122 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: And you know, running backs obviously get hurt constantly because 123 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: they get tackled constantly, and it's all kinds of contact 124 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: for them, in high speed contact. And the other part 125 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: is they just they just come and go so fast. 126 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Ken I'm gonna give you from just two. We're just 127 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: two seasons removed from these players being top ten EIGHTP 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: running backs two seasons. 129 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: Jeremy I don't like this, but let's go for it running. 130 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 1: Back two, Austin Eckler running back four, Nick Chubb running 131 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: back seven, Romandre Stevenson running back, nine, Najie Harris running back, ten, 132 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: Travis Etn. All of them are outside of the top 133 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: thirty running backs now just two years later. Meanwhile, Kent, 134 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: here's the here's the wide receivers were from the same year, 135 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Top ten wide receivers by ADP, Justin Jefferson, 136 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Chase Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Stefan Diggs, Ceedee lamb, 137 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: aj Brown, I'm on Ross Saint Brown, DeVante Adams, Garrett Wilson, 138 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: and Jalen Waddle. Almost all of. 139 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: Them essentially all still in the mix, right up to. 140 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: All of them at least partially in the mix, and 141 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: most of them, most all of them going inside the 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: top thirty, unlike Eckler, Chubbs, Stevenson, Harrison, etn. And it 143 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: tells you about just the volatility and the drop off 144 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: cliff for running backs. And by the way, quarterbacks. Just 145 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: as a side note, only two of the of the 146 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: top ten quarterbacks from a couple of years ago are 147 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: outside of the top ten this year. Otherwise it's the 148 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: same eight guys. Eight of the ten of the are 149 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: still in the top ten ADP. Right now, there's so 150 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: much stability at the quarterback position. 151 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, we kind of went through a banner change 152 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: around that time from the old guard of like the 153 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: Philip Rivers, Ben Rotha Burger era, and now we're in 154 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: this kind of new standard era. So that's going to 155 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: last for a long time. 156 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: I think I want to tell you one of those 157 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks that were in the top ten two years ago, 158 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Now, yeah, those dumbasses, and I remember at 159 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: the time, I'm like, you guys are crazy, you don't 160 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: know what you're doing. And I think everybody's optimistic they 161 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: were going to get the old Deshaun Watson in Cleveland, 162 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: but it did not obviously did not work out that way. 163 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: So for do the opposite, we essue running backs for 164 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: five rounds. That was where I drew the line in 165 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: the sand. You get to decide if you want it 166 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: to be four, you wanted to be seven, or eight, 167 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: however far you want. But I for me, I go 168 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: five rounds. And let me tell you. If we were 169 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: to just draft Kent, you and I were going to 170 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: draft right through the middle of every round. Right now, 171 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Let's go through five rounds without taking a running back, 172 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what your team would look like 173 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: picking guys by today's ADP as we're recording from the 174 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: middle of every round, and what your what your roster 175 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: would look like heading into round six. And then you 176 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: and I are going to reveal the running backs that 177 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: we would take beginning round six. So here's my here's 178 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: my sample draft. And obviously you could do your you 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: could do your own variations on these, and you might 180 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: be picking at the beginning of the first round, the 181 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: beginning of the first round, whatever, But we're just gonna 182 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: go through the middle. Your first five rounds could look 183 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: like ce d Lamb, Brock Bowers, Davante, Adams, or Terry McLaren. Kent. 184 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: You make the pick you want, Adams or mclauren. I 185 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: still like Adams there Adams to me too, Lamb, Bowers, Davante, Adams, 186 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels in the fourth round, and I'll go 187 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers in the fifth round. So, Kent, how do 188 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: you feel about this team of CD Lamb, brock Bowers, 189 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Jaden Daniels, and Zay Flowers through five? 190 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what I'd be I'd be pretty 191 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: happy with that. If we can, you know, find some 192 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: running backs here that either can out outperform a or 193 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: if we get a little lotto ticket kind of on 194 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: the back end of the draft, we'll be fighting our 195 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 3: way into the playoffs maybe, but then by the time 196 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: we get there, we're gonna be crushing everyone. That's that's 197 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: that's the whole idea. 198 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: That is the whole idea. It's you just either you 199 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: get just competent running backs who stay upright and you know, 200 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: just help you fill out your roster and let these 201 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: other superstar receivers go be great, or you hit a 202 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: lottery ticket with one of these picks and now you've 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: already got awesome receivers who are probably going to be fine. 204 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: And there we go. All right, I'm gonna let you 205 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: go first, Ken, So we've gone through five rounds, give 206 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: me your do the opposite first, do the opposite running 207 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: back you can get round six or later. 208 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. So the first one I'm gonna go with here 209 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: is Tony Pollard. And you know, depending on where you 210 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: look with ADP, like I looked at NFFC, he was 211 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: seventy two, so technically that last fifth round pick. But 212 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: we'll just say you can get him in the early 213 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: sixth round most likely. He's got three straight years of 214 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: thirteen hundred scrimmage yards and at least five touchdowns. That's 215 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: someone who's a running back too. That's someone who's you're 216 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: gonna throw in your lineup. You're gonna be fine with it. 217 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: You're gonna play the lotto tickets later and then get 218 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: someone who can have a little bit more upside than him, maybe, 219 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: but he's rock solid. Last year he was RB twenty 220 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: three points per game. He's never played fewer than fifteen 221 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: games in his six NFL seasons, which is a little 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 3: bit shocking to me. It's just rare to find a 223 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: running back these days that is, you know, always not 224 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: always healthy, but the best ability is availability. 225 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think that's key to do. The 226 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: opposite is we just alluded to this some minutes ago. Ken, 227 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: Just give me running backs who are going to be 228 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: healthy and just get me some decent point. Give me, 229 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, ten PPR points on a weekly basis, and 230 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: that's all right, because we're talking round six, round seven, 231 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: round eight, round nine, round ten. Give me tech double 232 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: digit PPR points and that's a win in this. In this, 233 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: do the opposite format absolutely. And I know a lot 234 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: of people like to call this like the unning back 235 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: dead zone. It's a place where you don't want to 236 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: touch running backs because they're kind of, you know, still starters, 237 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: but not quite good enough to be the elite tier. 238 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: And I disagree. I think totally Pollard is pretty solid. 239 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: He's had positive rushing yards above expectation and every year 240 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: except twenty twenty three, so five out of six seasons. 241 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 3: It's pretty good. He was fifth among all running backs 242 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: in fifteen plus mile an hour rushes per game last year. 243 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: He's got the juice. And it's important that you find 244 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: guys that you know, a lot of this stuff can 245 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: come down to scheme and offensive line block and stuff 246 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: like that. So when they get their holes open to 247 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: them and available, they got to just you know, fly 248 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: through and pick up the yards and get the offense moving. 249 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: And I think Tony Poler is a guy who's capable 250 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: of that. He's not the most elusive of backs, but 251 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: he's someone who if you give him a good hole, 252 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: he's going to just run right through a real heart. 253 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 3: So he was doing these fifteen mile hour runs on 254 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: twenty two percent of his attempts last year. Where his 255 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: backup co running back whatever you want to call him, 256 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: to Jay Spears, he was only a fourteen percent of 257 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: that metric. So he's got a little bit more juice 258 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: where Spears might be a little bit more elusive, might 259 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 3: you know, force more mistackles. But Tony Pollard's the starter, 260 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: and yeah, we're just gonna We're gonna like that. So 261 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: you know, they added Kevin Zeeler to this offensive line. 262 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: They were twenty first in run block win rate last year, 263 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, I really like it. I think that he's 264 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: going to do just good. 265 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: Kent. Let's take a quick break and when we come back, 266 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: more of the do the opposite running backs we are 267 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: targeting in the middle rounds of your draft. I'm gonna 268 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: go with Tyrone Tracy, the running back from the Giants. 269 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: You can get him in the ninth round so we 270 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: don't have to use like sixth round equity here. Currently 271 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: ADP is one hundred and three. There are few, if 272 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: any starting running backs being drafted lower than Tyrone Tracy. 273 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: He's running back thirty three as of this writing. Not 274 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: a special talent in my opinion, Kent, but I think 275 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: he can be helpful enough that he can validate a 276 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: ninth round pick. Giants offense should be better this year. Right, 277 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: last year we were going to work with Daniel Jones 278 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: and Drew Lock and Tommy DeVito. We got to half 279 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: a game out of Tim Boyle Oh boy Right. Malik 280 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: Neighbors threw one pass incomplete for the Giants last year. 281 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: I think he's the best passer on the team last season. 282 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: So now we get Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston. Those 283 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: are sizeable upgrades. The Giants offense should be better. It's 284 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: not gonna be great, but it's going to be better 285 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: than it was last year. But the real thing for 286 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: me on Tyron Tracy where he gets interesting not a 287 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: lot of competition. Cam Scattabo is not going to be 288 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: in every down back. He's going to be a situational back, 289 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: and now as a sophomore, Tracy could be dramatically improved. Ken. 290 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: I know you know this, and some of our listeners do. 291 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: He's a converted wide receiver who is only a starting 292 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: running back one season in college and then last year, 293 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: so totally learning on the job the nuances of the 294 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: ring back position last year, and even with all the 295 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: disadvantages we talked about Tim Boyle and Drew Lock and 296 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: everything else, the average four point four yards per carry 297 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: in a backwards offense with a broken offensive line. So 298 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: I think Tyrone Tracy's the kind of guy that can 299 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: help you do the opposite approach. 300 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was I was coming here actually expecting 301 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: to disagree with you, but I liked some of his 302 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: advantaged metrics too, considering he was a late convert, he's 303 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: really picked it up quickly. And if they can put 304 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: together any kind of offense, he's in a good spot. 305 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: He isn't a good spot. Who is your second do 306 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: the opposite runner? 307 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going with Isaiah Pacheco. And you know, this 308 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: one's a little bit unfortunate because last year was really 309 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: disappointing compared to his first two years in the league. 310 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: But again, he's going in the sixth round. You know 311 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: that the health concerns are valid. It's kind of based 312 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: on his aggressive running style. You know, last year he 313 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: had a fractured fibula and that was the reason that 314 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: he went on ir We two came back, tried to play, 315 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: didn't look so good, and the Chiefs really leaned on 316 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: cream Hunt instead, even all the way through the playoffs, 317 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: which might fear, you know, make some people afraid to 318 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: be drafting Pacheco here. But personally, I think that if 319 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: he can bounce to any kind of form like he 320 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: was in his first two seasons, that he's in a 321 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: good spot. First two year prior he was tenth to 322 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: success rate, fourth and success rate, and then in rushing 323 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: yards over expectation per attempt eighth and thirteenth, so not 324 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: bad number the efficiency metrics going for him. If he 325 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: can just get healthy of a good long off season. 326 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: They brought back Kareem Hunt on a cheap deal. I 327 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: think he's just going to be an insurance case. You know, 328 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: he really wasn't that good last year. He had some 329 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: pretty rough metrics and he's turning thirty. He was tied 330 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: for second worst yards after contact per attempt too. The 331 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: only one worse was Javonte Williams, So that's telling you 332 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: something great. 333 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: That that is, and we'll actually mentioned him later in 334 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: passing Kareem Hunt. By almost any metric you can think of, 335 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: was the worst running back in the NFL at his 336 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: number of carries last season. Yep, my second do the 337 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: opposite running back Denver's JK Dobbins currently going off the 338 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: board round twelve. Now, there could be some It could 339 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: be that he's he's sneaking higher, and we haven't seen 340 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the ADP lists sort of adjust since 341 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: his signing, but that was two weeks ago. I mean 342 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: I think by now, I think he's settling into round twelve. 343 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: And I found out due to research on JK. Dobbins 344 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: his full name ja kaaln Jay apostrophe Kaylin and that's 345 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: the JK in JK. Dobbins never knew that. Yep, God 346 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: bless him. He's had an ACL, an MCL, and an 347 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: achilles rupture and has no earthly business being an NFL 348 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: running back at this point with all those injuries. But 349 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: he's only twenty six years old and Kent. Let's remember, 350 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: Dobbins was on pace to be the comeback player of 351 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: the Year. Through ten games. He was like the money 352 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: line Vegas leader and then he suffered an mcl' sprain. 353 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: He missed a month and then came back at the 354 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: bitter end of the season and didn't do very much 355 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: after this after the knee injury, But through those ten 356 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: games through Week eleven, he averaged four point eight yards 357 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: per carry of seventy two rushing yards per game and 358 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: almost a full touchdown per game. He had eight touchdowns 359 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: and eight in ten games, and his twenty one percent 360 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: broken tackle rate ninth best during those first eleven weeks 361 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: of the season for JK. Dobbins. So Denver signs him. 362 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: We all know that they also drafted RJ. Harvey, and 363 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: it was very excited about that because RJ. Harvey had 364 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: this clear path to a bunt to a starting job. 365 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: I think JK. Dobbins at a minimums is going to 366 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: be the starter for a month or two Kent, Yeah. 367 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: And you know with RJ. Harvey what he did last 368 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: year and the year before. We're both very good collegiate seasons, 369 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but it's always a little bit 370 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: sketchy when it requires you being a few years older 371 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: than the guys you're playing against in terms of you know, 372 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: these guys are you know, still growing in physicality and 373 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: athleticism and stuff. So if you need to have those 374 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: bonus years of growth in order to put up these numbers, 375 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: I get a little sketched out. What he did was great, 376 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: But Jigie Dobbins is getting a deal that could be 377 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: worth up to five point something million. And I joked 378 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: on Twitter X whatever you want to call it, that 379 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: that's more than the rest of the running back room 380 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: combined in Denver right now. Probably, I don't think they're 381 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: not going to use him. I think they're going to 382 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: let him hit the field plenty. 383 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: I think so too. The fact that Dobbins they you know, 384 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: they drafted Harvey, they got some looks at him in OTAs, 385 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: and then they signed JK. Dobbins, And I think, to me, 386 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: it just it's screams that Harvey's not going to be 387 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: ready for a sizeable workload early in the season. I 388 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: think that person's going to be JK. Dobbins. All right, 389 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: let's go to your third and final do the opposite player, Kent? 390 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: All right, we're going with Isaac Garrindo over in the 391 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: Santa Francisco forty nine ers. 392 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: There's your lottery ticket right there. 393 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: Baby, Yeah, No, kidding twelfth rounder right now, so certainly 394 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: you don't have to invest a lot of capital into him. 395 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: And he is a handcuff. He's not a guy you're 396 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: going to be flexing on any given week or anything 397 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: like that unless they change up their style. But Kyle 398 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: Shanahan has always seemed to lean into one player getting 399 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: the majority of the workload. So I really should have 400 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: just labeled my selection here. Whoever the handcuff is on 401 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: a Kyle Shanahan team, that's really all you need to 402 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: draft in the later rounds and you'll be okay. You know, 403 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, we all hope that he plays a full season. 404 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: I know I will, but you know he's only played 405 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: two complete one since twenty twenty. And you know last year, 406 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: of course, they went through four running backs and then 407 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: you know, Grendo came in after Jordan Mason went down, 408 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: and he did pretty good. He was thirty one attempt, 409 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five rushing yards, two touchdowns, and 410 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 3: in those two games caught six targets for sixty eight 411 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: receiving yards. He was solid. So I don't think that 412 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: Patrick Taylor is any kind of a competition. They drafted 413 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: a sixth or fifth rounder who's not going to be 414 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 3: competition for them. He's just a really solid handcuff in 415 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 3: an offense that I think is going to bounce back 416 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: in a big way. They have a really easy strength 417 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: of schedule right now for the twenty twenty five years. 418 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: So you know, this San Francisco team, they're good. And 419 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: if you get the good running back on a good team. 420 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: And unfortunately, if Christian McCaffrey were to go down, I 421 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: think Gorendo's gonna pick up a lot of fantasy points 422 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 3: later in the year. 423 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Maybe the biggest lottery ticket there is in fantasy football 424 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: is Grendo. If anything happens with Christian McCaffrey again, and 425 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: he's missed significant time in three the last six seasons, 426 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: and if Grendo can himself stay healthy after CMC goes down, 427 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: which has been an ongoing issue for Isaac Garndo. 428 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: Actually, this was funny part of part of my research. 429 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: Real quick here. It was you know, he had his 430 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: lineal issues in terms of health, and the rest of 431 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: the running back room did too. I checked the NFLPA 432 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: report card for training staff. San Francisco twenty fifth out 433 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: of thirty two. That's not gonna come to a shotgun. 434 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: So maybe we need to shy away from all running 435 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: backs down there. But I just thought that was funny. 436 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: That is good, all right. My final do the opposite player, 437 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: and I hate to keep beating the same drum over 438 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: and over again, so I'm gonna keep this short. But 439 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: not everybody listens to every word I say in every 440 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: podcast can as much as I'd like to think that 441 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: everybody is so dialed in that they are transcribing every 442 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: word we say. Some people haven't heard me bang the 443 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: drum for Jordan Mason yet, but I think I think 444 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: it's starting to change. I'm not saying I'm personally moving 445 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: the needle on him, but Jordan Mason's ADP has gone 446 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: up four rounds in the last six weeks. And I've 447 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: been banging the drum for Jordan Mason in Minnesota all 448 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: off season since the trade, and especially in the last 449 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: couple of months when the Vikings didn't make any changes 450 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: through the draft at running back. As I've said many times, 451 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: he's going to be the goal line guy. It's going 452 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: to be closer to a fifty to fifty split in 453 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota than people believe Aaron Jones is still a good back, 454 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: but he's also an aged back at year thirty. With 455 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: the miles that he's got. He managed to stay upright 456 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: for seventeen games last year, but they used him a 457 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: lot more than they want to. And at the end 458 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: of the day, especially Jordan Mason can't catch, but he's 459 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: going to offset what he can't catch through touchdowns. He 460 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: could be easily sitting on a ten touchdown season, I believe, 461 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: and most a double digit touchdown season for Jordan Mason, 462 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: to me, is is very plausible. 463 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know we've talked about this before, of course, 464 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: and I actually went and looked at it Aaron Jones 465 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: to see if he had any kind of a falloff 466 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: inefficiency because he was used more than he was in 467 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: previous seasons at Green Bay. But honestly, he still looked 468 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: pretty good for last year. And I know he's getting 469 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: older and I know he's had a lot of touches 470 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: over the course of his career. But at rising price 471 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: on Jordan Mason, boy, I hope he stays cheap enough 472 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: to extract the value from it. That's my only concern. 473 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: Now going in the eighth round and it's the gap 474 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: between him and Aaron Jones. It used to be like 475 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: a five round gap. Now Jones is going down, Mason's 476 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: going up. But in a do the opposite scenario, I 477 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: I'd rather have Jordan Mason and you could draft both 478 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: if you wanted to. Maybe you you know, you just go, Hey, 479 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: Viking's gonna be up to the backfield. Lock up the 480 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: backfield if you want to do that one guy gets hurt, 481 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: whatever you got, or she could start both on a 482 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: pinch if you needed to. Notable by his absence, Javonte Williams, 483 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: neither one of you, neither one of us chose Dallas, 484 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: the Dallas starting running back. Even at ADP one hundred 485 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: and thirteen. You and I aren't on Javonte Williams. He's 486 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: the being the lowest drafted clear starting NFL running back. 487 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: He's not. I don't believe he's really locked into any 488 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: kind of a duel for the starting job. I believe 489 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: that's his job. Tell me a little bit about Kent, 490 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: why you didn't choose to Javonte Williams, and then I'll 491 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: explain some of my rationale too. 492 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to. Honestly, I really did. I I liked 493 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: him when he was coming into the league, and I 494 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: tried to stick with him as he was kind of 495 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: going down in value and usage, and unfortunately he just 496 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: kept going down. And unfortunately, I think that trend is 497 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 3: going to continue. It is probably his backfield. I just 498 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: worry that they're going to do like a three way 499 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: deployment between him Miles Sanders. Unfortunately is you know, still there. 500 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: He's Miles Sanders isn't going to take the lead job, 501 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: but he's going to be a thorn in your side. 502 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: I think that's the best way to describe Sanders these days. 503 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 3: And then Jayden Blue, you know who, granted doesn't have 504 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: a huge resume on the collegiate side of things, I 505 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: think they like him, and I think a lot of 506 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: people that I've seen and you know, the prospect Space 507 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 3: has really enjoyed his film. So you know, he's got 508 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 3: an opportunity with two, you know, so to speak, deadbeat 509 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: running backs ahead of him. What reason is there for 510 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: him to not jump ahead. That's That's kind of where 511 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: I'm at right now. 512 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just just a little bit part of it 513 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: was eye test on Javonte Williams in broken tackle rate 514 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: last year. He was forty first forty first round among 515 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: running backs that's not starting running back territory territory. He 516 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: averaged three point seven yards per carry. You know, there's 517 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: just there were no metrics that made you feel good 518 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: about Javonte Williams. And he's two years off the ACL 519 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: ken So I just think that, you know, there's a 520 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: point at which you go, Okay, if you were going 521 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: to come back from the ACL in a really meaningful way, 522 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: it probably would have already happened, didn't. And last last 523 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: metric I'll give you on Javonte Williams yards yards after contact, 524 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: which I think is a is a really really important 525 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: stat for running backs. Javonte Williams dead last among runners 526 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: with at least one hundred series. 527 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: I just can't get away from these metrics. Man, It's 528 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: just always been going down with him, and it's it's 529 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: hard to justify. You know, he doesn't even have the 530 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: volume locked up. I would. I would say he's the 531 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: leader right now, but he's not like locked into the 532 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: workhorse role. So if you don't even have the efficiency 533 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 3: to justify it, I don't know. I couldn't bring myself. 534 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: To do it. Same talk to me. Was there was 535 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: there anybody else on your short lift list that just 536 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, you didn't quite couldn't quite make the cut 537 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: into your three do the opposite running backs? 538 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I considered Rushad White. I know, you know, you 539 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: have your Bucky Irving I go on repeat season. So 540 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: I think, you know, in the eleventh round, he's probably 541 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: someone who in PPR league of any style, you're probably 542 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: going to be able to flex him occasionally as a 543 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: fill in player, but he does still have the handcuff status. 544 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: I don't think Sean Tucker is going to be a 545 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: guy to up in in front of Rashad White. And 546 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: when Rashad White was the leader, even though he was 547 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: a ho hum runner and wasn't the most electric guy, 548 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: he was running back fourteen in points per game when 549 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: he was by himself. So I think he's you know, 550 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: this is a good offense. You know, you got Baker 551 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: coming back, you got the receivers coming back, you have 552 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: a new receiver in town. They're gonna be scoring a 553 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 3: lot of points. And you know, again a handcuff situation, 554 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: but you might be able to sneak a flex here 555 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: or there. 556 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Just a handcuff to me, But I you know, that's 557 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm just, I just I can't go with you on 558 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 1: the Rashad White journey because Bucky's a good pass catcher. 559 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna yield automatically yield those third downs. 560 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: And I think Bucky's a sneaky candidate for like two 561 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: thousand total yards, So I can't do it. 562 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 3: Potentially, what if I told you that from week eleven on? 563 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: So this is after the buye and I don't know 564 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: if you recall, but Bucky got hurt in week six, 565 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: so I was gonna look at that first and then 566 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: went to the buy which would be even more in 567 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: Bucky's favor. Yeah, the snap percentage split was only fifty 568 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: percent to Bucky Irving forty. Wow. 569 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: That does surprise me. 570 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: That more balanced than I think I was expecting to. 571 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: So, but that's okay, that snaps, right, that snaps. I'm 572 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: guessing Rashad White was in on passing downs and that 573 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: does not represent his touches. He's probably a better blocker 574 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: and guessing and I'm guessing that that was that was 575 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: part of It's just my just a hunch there, but 576 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't you know. Yep, Yeah, good job to take 577 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: Ken there's a ton of fun. Do the opposite. This 578 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: is a you know, this is a it's a time tested, 579 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: proven you know, in years past we've done really deep 580 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: dives and do the opposite. We show all the data 581 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: and we show you, you know, the dangers of of 582 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, running backs of the last five years. Here's 583 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: the failure rate, here's the failure rate and receivers, stuff 584 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: like that. Honestly, we've gone away from it a little 585 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: bit just because zero running back has become so popular. 586 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: People write are writing about it and talking about it, 587 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I just, you know, I don't feel 588 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: like we have to justify the existence of do the opposit, 589 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: said Ken, as much as we used to. 590 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's certainly shifted year to year two. I 591 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: think people kind of react a little bit too much 592 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: to the prior season. And so if you just keep 593 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 3: with a steadfast kind of system year in year out, 594 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: you're probably gonna end up with more wins than losses. 595 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: Agreed. Agreed. And if you do get your lottery ticket 596 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: comes in, and typically half of the top ten running 597 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: backs will come from outside of round six or below. 598 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: If your lottery ticket does come in and you're sitting 599 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: with Ceed Lamb and Brock Bauers and Devonte Adams and 600 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels and Za Flowers. Bang, that's it. You've got it. Now, 601 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: you have it right, You've got an absolute juggernaut team. 602 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: So and do we know if it's gonna be JK. 603 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Dobbins or Tony Pollard or Tyrone Tracy. You know, we 604 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: don't know who it's going to be. But odds are 605 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: one of those guys is gonna pop for any of 606 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: the reasons that we gave. 607 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, my last thing is here is 608 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: you know, maybe your league pays out through third place 609 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: or whatever, but essentially speaking, fourth through last place are 610 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: equal to me. I'm I'm swinging for the fences first 611 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: place if I can do it, obviously, and if anything 612 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: other than that, I don't care. That the strategy should 613 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: really be about maximizing your upside going for that trophy. 614 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Yes, this isn't a guillotine league. We're trying to reduce risk. 615 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: This is your regular league where you have to be 616 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: the best out of twelve teams. And the place to 617 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: put the place to put your risk is that middle 618 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: is the middle of the draft. In my mind, because 619 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: if any of those guys pop your set at the 620 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: other positions. Now I'm repeating myself. I agree, Yeah, you 621 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: agree that I'm repeating myself. Appreciate that. Kat, great job today, 622 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, everybody. We'll be back next week 623 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: for more Fantasy Football Weekly. Fantasy Football Weekly is a 624 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 625 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 626 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: favorite shows.