1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Higat everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading the 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. The Let's Get It On addition, as 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: the Bengals wrap up the preseason and turn their attention 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: to games that count, beginning in two weeks against the 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Coming up, you'll hear radio replace from Sunday's 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: game against Miami, postgame comments from players and coaches, and 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: analysis from my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. The Bengals Booth 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. Refresh the game, 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: and here's a quick reminder that you can have the 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since making Nick 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: Cosgrey an honorary captain. When the Bengals took the field 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: for the opening coin toss on Sunday, three captains headed 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: to the fifty yard fine Trey Hopkins coming back from 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: a torn ACL, Joe Burrow coming back from a torn ACL, 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: and mcl and a key person who assisted in their comebacks, 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals Director of Rehab, Nick Cosgray. Here's Burrow, and 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I think it was a great way to honor Nick, 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: who Who's the guy that you know works really really 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: hard for us, and you know, it's really an unsung 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: hero of the team. He's a guy that gets a 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: lot of guys right. Whether whatever injury you have, you 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: go to Nick, He's gonna he's gonna get you right 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: and tell you what you need to do to minimize 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: the effects of that injury. So you know, Nick's a 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: very important part of this organization that no, I'm really 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: glad we were able to honor him in that way. Now, 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: let's get the Sunday's game. The big story going in 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: was Joe Burrow's return forty sundays after being carted off 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: the field in Washington. Joe was told he would be 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: in for three plays. The first was a jet sweep 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: hand off to Tyler Boyd. The second was his only 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: pass of the preseason Goyle. The Bengals line up in 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: a pistol, Burrow five yards behind Trey Hopkins, Bixon directly 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: behind him to fake to mix in a wide receiver 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: screen dropped by Jamar Chase. That's right. In the Bengals 38 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: final two preseason games, Chase dropped all four passes thrown 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: his way. His quarterback says he's not concerned. I'm not 40 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: worried about it. I know kind of got Jamar is 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: the kind of player he is, He'll be ready to go. 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: Week one. After a handoff to Joe Mixon, Burrow's day 43 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: was done. The Dolphins didn't play either of their top 44 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks two a Tungo Vyloa and Jacoby Brissette. Instead, 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: third stringer Reid Sanett got the start and directed a 46 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: thirteen play drive in the first quarter to give Miami 47 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: the lead. From the three yard line. He takes the 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: snapsticks it in the belly of Dokes. Dokes, lowers his 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: pads and fights his way into the end zone from 50 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: Miami touchdown. Dokes, his former UC bear had Jared Doakes, 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: who gave the Dolphins a seven nothing lead. Brandon Allen 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: replaced burrowind quarterback and promptly drove the Bengals right down 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: the field. Allen, ucker center, takes the snap, fakes a 54 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: hand off to trade theon. Williams fires down field. It 55 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: is caught by Trenton Irwin gets nailed at the Miami 56 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: thirty two yard line, but holds on to the football 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: after the big hit by Nick Needham. That's two weeks 58 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: in a row. Two weeks in a row he's caught 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: the football, taking a major shot and held onto the football. 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Irwin finished with two catches for thirty nine yards, putting 61 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: the finishing touch on a strong training camp and preseason. 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: It's wild. I mean, it's it's two years of grinding 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: for more and more opportunities. You know, it's a beautiful thing. 64 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Really in the end, you look at it and just 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: trying to go down there day in day out in 66 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: grind to make plays and catch someone's eye to get 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity, and just one more opportunities is all you 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: need to compile those. The Bengals tied the game on 69 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: the first play of the second quarter. Brandon Allen throwing 70 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: toward the end, so he drops it into the bucket, 71 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: hit his cock for a touchdown. Chris Evans lining up 72 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and receiver and streaking down the sideline and Brandon Allen 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: threw it just over the inside shoulder, right into the 74 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: bread basket for the score, right on dan ball placement. 75 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: It's everything in the National Football League. Good protection, clean pocket, 76 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: un obscured vision, and Chris Evans, Like we said, they 77 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: knew that he could run routes and catch the football, 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: and he just burned people. That was a twenty nine 79 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: yard strike on a play that's been working at practice. 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: According to Evans, I'm running it all camp just to 81 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: be able to it in the game, and they called 82 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: it and already knew. I've been going over it in 83 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: and seeing him myself catching it, and a walk through 84 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: yesterday at night. I'm dreaming about it. That tied the 85 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: score at seven, and a few minutes later, the Bengals 86 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: defense made a big play. Shotgun snaps Sinette throws and 87 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: he's intercepted a deflected ball that's picked off by Since 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: add the Bengals are running it back. The tackle made 89 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: at the Miami forty four on trey Von Henderson his 90 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: second interception in three preseason games. It led to a 91 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: thirty six yard Austin cyberd field goal in a ten 92 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: seven Bengals lead, but Miami answered with another long scoring drave. 93 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Jared Oakes already has one touchdown run, they give it 94 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: to him and Doakes takes it into the end zone 95 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: for his second TD, so Miami takes the lead with 96 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: one eighteen left. In the half, not a one yard 97 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: touchdown run by Jared Doakes. It was fourteen ten Dolphins, 98 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: and after a holding penalty on the kick return, the 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: Bengals had to start from their own seven with one 100 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: thirteen on the clock. Fortunately, with rookie kicker Evan McPherson 101 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: on the roster, the Bengals only needed to drive to 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: the Miami thirty nine to be within field goal range. 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Harris snaps to Hubery, puts it down the swing of 104 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: the leg. The kick is long enough and it is 105 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: yes good. Evan McPherson from fifty seven yards away ends 106 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: the first half with a booming field goal, cementing his 107 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: status as the bengals number one kicker in twenty twenty one. 108 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: With Kyle Shermer at quarterback. In the second half, the 109 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Bengals got lucky and took the lead. Fourth down and 110 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: fourth to Miami forty six. Shermer cox the en throws 111 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: deflected Cock off the deflection, Trent Taylor streaking down the 112 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: far sideline inside the twenty, down to the ten, inside 113 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: the five and tackled at the one. First and goal 114 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: from the one. It's a handoff to Jock first Patrick 115 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: and he goes into the end zone with ease to 116 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: give the Bengals the lead. After the forty five yard 117 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: pass completion on a deflection to Trent Taylor, the Bengals 118 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: took a twenty to fourteen lead to the fourth quarter, 119 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the third straight preseason game that they led going to 120 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: the fourth, and they added to their lead with roughly 121 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: ten minutes to go. Shotgun snapped to Shermer's back to throw. 122 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: Now scrambling, le cocks the arm, throws into the end 123 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: zone and his cat for the touchdown by Scottie Washington. 124 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: The Bengals went for two and failed to convert, meaning 125 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: they had a twelve point lead. It didn't last. Senet, 126 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: back to throw from the pocket, flings a deep pass 127 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: merit open over the shoulder catch at the ten, and 128 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: he runs into the end zone for the score. That 129 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: forty four yard pass came on a second and twenty 130 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: two play and cut the Bengals lead to five. The 131 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: worst was still to come. Fourth and fifteen, with one 132 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: thirty two to go. Senet waits for the shotgun snap. 133 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: He has three receivers right, one left. He catches the 134 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: ball deep drop, being chased by Spence, gets away from him. 135 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: Runs away from Hodge, points deep steps into a deep 136 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: ball throw into the end zone and it is for 137 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: a touchdown by Merit who spikes the ball and make 138 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: it Myrick with the catch. Unbelievable. Here's Zach Taylor and 139 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: allowing two long touchdown passes and the fourth quarter to 140 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: squander a double digit advantage. I think today there was 141 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: plenty of opportunities to finish the game, you know, particularly 142 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: on the defense there in that last round. Guys, the 143 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: plenty shots we need to finish it. We didn't do it. 144 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: I just told the teams just smarting lessons here in 145 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: preseason game three as opposed to two, three, four or 146 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: five weeks from now. You got opportunities. You got to 147 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: take advantage of them. You never know what's gonna happen next. 148 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: And then so again we should go on from this. 149 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: The Bengals could have tied the game and avoided a 150 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: loss since there's no overtime in the preseason, but with 151 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: less than thirty seconds to go, they passed up a 152 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: fifty yard field goal attempt to go for it. On 153 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: fourth and ten, Shermer back to throw the pocket closes, 154 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: he throws it deep, it is battered away at the 155 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: five yard line, incomplete, and that should wrap it up 156 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. As Igbanagan he broke up that deep 157 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: ball intended for Washington. The final score Miami twenty nine, 158 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati twenty six, as the Bengals finished the preseason one 159 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: and two. Here's Burrow. I'm just excited for preseason to 160 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: be over and get ready to play the first game. 161 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: You know, we're tired of going against each other in 162 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: practice every day and hitting each other and getting in 163 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: fights because we see each other every day. It's gonna 164 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: be nice to go out there and hit someone. When accounts, 165 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: the Bengals out gained Miami four thirteen to three eighty eight, 166 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: including one hundred twenty rushing yards to only sixty nine 167 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, but the Bengals hurt themselves with penalties. 168 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: They had eleven to just five by Miami. The Bengals 169 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light 170 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now time 171 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: for postgame analysis from Dave Lapham lap I don't want 172 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: to make too big of a deal of blowing a 173 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: twelve point fourth quarter lead when the second and third 174 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: string is in the game. But the Bengals had the 175 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,239 Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter of all of their preseason 176 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: games they only won one, And going back to last 177 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: year before Joe Borrow got hurt, they had the lead 178 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter six times and won twice. So 179 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: regardless of first string, second string, or third string, that 180 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: is a habit they need to break it is And 181 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: I think if you go back over Zach's entire career, 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: they've had a fourth quarter lead probably sixty sixty five 183 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: percent of the time and not being able to hold 184 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: on to it. So finishing games continues to be an issue. 185 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: And I remember Bill Tiger Johnson, a legendary offensive line 186 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: coach with the Bengals and head coach for a period 187 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: of time here, had a saying that there's going to 188 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: be a handful of players or less that are going 189 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: to decide football games, and you never know when they're 190 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: going to occur, and you have to be ready to 191 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: make the play when the opportunity for that play presents itself. 192 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: This game ended up a fourth and fifteen. They made 193 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: the play. Bengals on fourth down couldn't make a play, 194 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: and that decided in the football game basically, But there 195 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: was Ying and Yang long before that. And you have 196 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: to take advantage of your opportunities, and the team that 197 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: takes advantage of a bigger percentage of them usually wins 198 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: the football game. In Zach Taylor's first two seasons, they've 199 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: had a lead, not necessarily a fourth quarter lead, but 200 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: a lead in twenty four out of thirty two games. 201 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: That's seventy five percent. They've won six. That's nineteen percent. Yeah, it's, uh, 202 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, the game is four quarters for a reason. 203 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's sixty minutes long. There are 204 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: four fifteen minute quarters, and you have to play the 205 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: entire sixty minutes. And I guess nobody knows that better 206 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: than the Cincinnati Bengals under Zach Taylor right now, that's 207 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: for sure. All right, here's my favorite stat of the 208 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: three preseason games. The Bengals gave up one sack, and 209 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: the only sack they allowed was when the offensive line 210 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: wasn't even trying to block because the ball was snapped early. 211 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: That's impressive. It is impressive, and I think, you know, 212 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: everybody should should accept some of the some of the uh, 213 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: the credit for it. I think the offensive line, I think, uh, 214 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, tight ends running backs, if there's blitz pick 215 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: up responsibility, quarterback getting the ball out of their hands, 216 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: creating extending plays when necessary. But I think that's a 217 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: major step forward that in that that play, you know, 218 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: it was exacerbated. There was a problem by a rookie 219 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: Trey Hill with an early snap and they get pressure 220 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: as a result of it, and instead of just throwing 221 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: the football away trying to make something happen, and now 222 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: it turns into a fumble. So a bad play becomes 223 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: a horrible play. So that quarterback sack was a was 224 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: a catastrophe. But really, I think I think the guys 225 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: believe in what Frank Pollock's trying to teach, and I 226 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: think that's you know, shows itself. I think they're they're 227 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: definitely buying what he's selling. And I thought that the 228 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: protection for the most part, you didn't see free runners. 229 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't see guys getting beaten on first 230 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: moves at the line of scrimmage. I think I think 231 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: it's trending in a very good direction. I felt good 232 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: about Jamar Chase's last three practices going into this game. 233 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: He practiced well and I think he had one drop 234 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: in three days and then sure enough in a game, 235 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: first time the ball is thrown his way, he drops 236 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: it again. The last four games, I'm sorry, the last 237 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: two games, four targets, four drops. I don't want to panic. 238 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to panic, but it's impossible not to 239 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: be concerned. Yeah, he's going to get out of his 240 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: own head. You know, I think when that ball came 241 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: his way, obviously, you know, Zach Taylor talked about after 242 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: the game that Joe Burrow was coming out of the 243 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: game and the number ones were coming out of the game. 244 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: After three snaps that they generated a first down, they 245 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: were still exiting the field. So there's no doubt that 246 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: every single offensive player knew the sequence of the players 247 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: that were going to be called. So Jamar Chase knew 248 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: for probably a few days that a ball was coming 249 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: to him on a wide receiver screen, and you know, 250 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: maybe it's a case. So I want to try to 251 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: do too much. I'm going to peek and see where 252 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: they are before I catch it because I want to 253 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: make a big play. I want to have a big 254 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: splash with Joe. First ball comes my way and I 255 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: want it to be special. And first thing you have 256 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: to do is look the ball into your hands, and 257 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: particularly with what he's going through, you can't you can't 258 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: be not lazy, but you can't have your eyes everywhere. 259 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: They have to be on the target, and that's the football, 260 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: and look it in, catch it and then make your move, 261 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: and don't try to speed up the process because things 262 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: will happen that you don't want to happen, like dropping 263 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: the football. So he's got to get out of his 264 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: own head. He's going to go back to the basic 265 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: basic fundamentals, the one, two three of catching the football. 266 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: And the first thing you have to do is keep 267 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: your eyes on the football, look the football into your hands, 268 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: don't take your head away before the football hit your hands, 269 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: and try to locate defensive players too soon. Catch it first, 270 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: you got to you gotta take baby steps and it's 271 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: going to be an ABC process and he's gonna get 272 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: step bad down first catch the foot ball. Let's talk 273 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: about some of the position battles going into this final 274 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: preseason game, starting with tight end Mason Shrek, Thaddeus Moss, 275 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: and Mitchell Wilcox. It's been a spirited competition all camp. 276 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: They all bring something a little bit different to the table. 277 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: Wilcox had a tackle in kick coverage, made a great 278 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: catch on a third and long situation, then suffered a concussion. 279 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: Thaddius Moss had five catches in the game. You would 280 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: think at least I think Moss and Wilcox have moved 281 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: to the top of the totem pole. Now can you 282 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: keep them both? Do you keep one? The other guy 283 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: goes to the practice squad. It's gonna be very interesting 284 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: to see it is. It's going to be very interesting 285 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: because Thaddeus Moss has already experienced this kind of thing 286 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: with one organization with Washington and let go and the 287 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: Bengals pick him up. And Joe Burrow was effusive in 288 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: his praise of what a smart football player Thaddeus Moss 289 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: is and what a reliable football player he is in 290 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: terms of not making mistakes, understanding concepts, understanding you know, 291 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: what his role is in the big picture scheme of 292 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: the offense, and uh, you know, he speaks extremely highly 293 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: of them. Of course they're good personal friends as well. 294 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: But I think he's, you know, just a football player. 295 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: I think he gets it. He gets the game of football, 296 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: and he's been around it his whole life. His dad 297 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: was a superstar, So he's seen that part of it. 298 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: He knows he's not that kind of player, but he 299 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: understands that he can do some things in the game 300 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: of football. So I think he's you know, I think 301 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: he's somebody that is going to find a knitche somewhere 302 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: and when he gets his opportunity, he's going to take 303 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: advantage of it. Will it be here like you say, 304 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: or will it be somewhere else. Wilcox is the most 305 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: athletic of them. He can run the best, He's got 306 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: the most foot speed. I think Darren Simmons can work 307 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: with that. And you know, he made a spectacular play, 308 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: got lit up and got the concussion on that catch. 309 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: But you know he'll make big plays like that, and 310 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: then his plays are his big plays are big, his 311 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: mistakes are big. So there has to be instead of 312 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: North and South Pole, there has to be an evening 313 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: of that graph, you know, and and coaches have to 314 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: know what they can expect out of Wilcox on a 315 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: snap by snap by snap basis not say is this 316 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: the one where it's going to be good Wilcox? Is 317 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: this the one where it's going to be Oh my gosh, Wilcox. 318 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: You know that's tough on a coaching staff. Another sack 319 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: for Darius Hodge, the undrafted rookie out of Marshall leads 320 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: the team with two and a half in the preseason 321 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: with Joe's Fosi out as Darius Hodge made this team 322 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, boy, and I think that's what 323 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: you have to look at as a pass rusher. You 324 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: know he'll he'll give you, depending on how the game's going, 325 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen snaps as a pass rusher on second 326 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: and long, third and long situations. You know, if it's 327 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: more than that, you're really in good shape defensively with 328 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: his role. If his role he gives you twenty snaps, 329 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: that means you're getting the offense off schedule all the 330 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: time and he's going to be making more and more plays. 331 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: But you know his role is defined. Is that right now? 332 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Darren Simmons, I think, is trying to find where that 333 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: he can utilize him on special teams but hasn't found 334 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: that yet. So it's it's going to be a case where, 335 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: all right, a guy who came in as a linebacker, 336 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: but they found this innate ability to rush the passer. Okay, 337 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: linebackers shouldn't play some special teams or you know a 338 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: tweener guy, you know a guy that can fit a 339 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: couple of roles. What about special teams contribution. I think 340 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: that's going to be the big discussion with Darren Simmons. 341 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: But man, when you have a guy that has that 342 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: innate ability to rush the passer and he's shown it 343 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: on a snap by snap basis against you know, not 344 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: just twos and threes, but number ones, I think he's 345 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: got to work with the guy. He has just a 346 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: very natural Everything he does is leaning and advancing to 347 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and he's got that low center of gravity 348 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: and it's just hard for the taller guys to you 349 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: gotta bend to get that. He puts you in a 350 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: different position to pass protect than you normally are. Just 351 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: everything has to be lower and tighter, and he's he's 352 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: got he's got a skill set. So it's going to 353 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: be interesting to see if, if, if he does make 354 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: the team. I think he's made a case. So Noah 355 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Spence got signed about a week ago, got a few 356 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: practices in, played quite a bit in the game against Miami, 357 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: almost had a sack on the final play. What turned 358 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: out to be the game. When he touchdown passed for 359 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, did he make an impression? You know, I 360 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: think he flashed a little bit. He flashed a few 361 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: times in terms of his his rush, but again, um, 362 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't against you know, number ones, and he hasn't 363 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: been here to go against number ones. But you got 364 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: to remember, I think he's he's really just now shifting 365 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: it into drive, you know. I mean he was in 366 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: neutral and I think he's just trying to get his 367 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: wind and get his football conditioning, you know, right, So 368 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: I think I think his NFL path has shown that 369 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: he can do it. Um, I think you know, they're 370 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: trying to get him ready to do it in a 371 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: very very fast fashion, fast manner. And the things you 372 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: fear about something like that is what if he pulls 373 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: a himmy? What if he you know, he's trying to 374 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: do too much before his body is ready to allow 375 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: him to do it. So you have to be smart 376 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: about it. But you know, the circumstances are a little 377 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: bit dire because of other injuries. So it's going to 378 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: be interesting to see and it's going to be interesting 379 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: to see how they address the edge rush position off 380 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: the waiver wire if they try to make a trade 381 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: for somebody's fourth or fifth guy that they feel might 382 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: be better than their fourth or fifth guy. I think 383 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: they're going to try to improve that portion of the 384 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: roster every way they possibly can. I hope Goled Karma 385 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: is okay, because he got off to a tremendous start, 386 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: got off to a very good start training camp before 387 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: hurting his shoulder. Now he gets off to a great 388 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: start in this game and has to exit due to injury. 389 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: But he's a guy that when he's been on the 390 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: field this year has looked good. He really and I 391 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: think it's one of those situations where you may have 392 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: to just really monitor put him to pitch count in 393 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: terms of snaps, because if if it's an arthritic condition, 394 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily you know, like a joint problem that 395 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: surgery is going to repair. I mean, it's just something 396 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: that you have to treat and take care of and um, 397 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, give it proper rest and all those sorts 398 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: of things. And then and then the player has to 399 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: grit his teeth and kind of fight through it because 400 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: there's going to be some pain there, but you're not 401 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: worsening the injury as such. You just have to fight 402 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: through and learn how to deal with, you know, playing 403 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: with that type of a malady. And that's that's gonna 404 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: be interesting to see if he can do that, because 405 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: he does have some length, uh some some ability to 406 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: come off the edge and make plays. I mean, the 407 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: first three snaps of the game, he was a factor 408 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: in two of them with the deflection in the sack. 409 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: You can't ask more than that. The longest field goal 410 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: Enfranchise history is fifty seven yards. Mike Knugia did it 411 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: in a playoff game, Randy Bullock did in a regular 412 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: season game, and now Evan McPherson has done it in 413 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: a preseason game. Do you agree my bold prediction that 414 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: the record held by your former teammate Horst Muleman of 415 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: four fifty yard field goals in a single season, that's 416 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: a Bengals record, not an NFL record, but that Bengals 417 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: record is going to go down this year when Evan 418 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: McPherson kicks more than four fifty yard field goals. I 419 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: think there's a real strong chance. I think he's gonna 420 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: beat the record two of a fifty seven yard field 421 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: goal for the for the club record. I think he's 422 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna touch sixty or maybe surpass it. I mean, gosh, 423 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: he made that fifty seven yard field goal such an 424 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: effortless swing of the leg and cleared it by at 425 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: least three yards. I mean it would have been good 426 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: from sixty plus. So he's a he's a unique special talent. 427 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: And the thing about him that is real impressive is 428 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: those long field goals. He gets such a quick trajectory 429 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: and it stays so straight. I mean, it doesn't it 430 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: doesn't fade, it doesn't hook. I mean he is. It's 431 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: amazing how straight he hits. Uh, he hits his his shots. 432 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a golfer that just keeps, you know, 433 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: piping the thing down the middle of the fairway and 434 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: right to the pin, just piping everything. He seems to 435 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: be able to do that from any distance. It's it's 436 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: really remarkable to watch the kid, how pure he strikes 437 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: the football. Did Kyle Schermer do enough to wrap up 438 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: third quarterback? Probably in the practice squad third quarterback? Or 439 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: do you think they'll be scouring tape of rosters out 440 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: there to see if there's a better practice squad quarterback available. 441 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: I think you got to do your due diligence. But 442 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: after the Washington game, I would have thought they're going 443 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: to find something. But I thought he rebounded very well. 444 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: I thought he put up some good numbers. I thought 445 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: he was efficient in the way he played his decision making. Again, 446 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: I thought his protection was pretty good. Like you pointed out, 447 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: I agree with you, but he has something to do 448 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: with that as well. I just thought that the whole 449 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: operation was much better than what took place out there 450 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: in Washington. If the quarterback play had been like today 451 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: in Washington, that would have been a victory in Washington, 452 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: and it should have been a victory today. I mean, 453 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: it's not like any one of these football games that 454 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: the Bengals were manhandled and had no right being in 455 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: the football game. But I do thought I did think 456 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: that the quarterback play was not good enough against Washington. 457 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was good enough to win football games today. 458 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: Do you have the biggest positive overall from the preseason 459 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: and training camp? I think the biggest positive two things. 460 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: I think. I'm a big believer, and it starts up 461 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: front and from what I saw of the number one 462 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: defensive line and guys that are going to rotate in there. 463 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: The rotation guys in that defensive front and the young linebackers, 464 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: you know, that front seven. I saw some things that 465 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: I really liked, and I think that the offensive line 466 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: has made some strides with Frank Pollock. So I think 467 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: that you have to be able to compete on a 468 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: consistent basis on gaming and a week on a weekly 469 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: basis upfront in the trenches on both sides of the 470 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: football to have a chance, and I do think that 471 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: I've seen improvement in both of those areas. I thought 472 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: it was very, very suspect last year, and injuries were 473 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: a big part of it. But everybody gets hurt. All 474 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: teams get hurt in the National Football League, I do 475 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: think they've done a good job on accumulating much more 476 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: depth to their roster. I think they have more guys 477 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: that can play at a higher level, and I think 478 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: that it's going to be better on both sides of 479 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: the football. I can pretty much guarantee this. There's not 480 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: a team in the NFL that had a better sack 481 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: differential in the preseason. The Bengals had three more sacks 482 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: in this game, six more quarterback hits. Like we said earlier, 483 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: they only gave up one sack. The entire preseason deferential 484 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: was incredible between the amount of pressure they generated and 485 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: the amount they gave up. Yeah, and I think that 486 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: speaks to you know, the numbers show what my eyeballs 487 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: are telling me, you know, watching these guys. We talked 488 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: about it a couple of times during the course of 489 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: the preseason games. Dan that the size of their defensive 490 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: line interior. I mean, they're big inside. They have big 491 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: body guys, and they're bigger than they're bigger than they've 492 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: been for a while. And they're not stiffs. You know, 493 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 1: It's like these guys stay on their feet. It's not 494 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: like they're just big lugs and you know they're just 495 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: trying to blob people. I mean, these guys, these guys 496 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: can take up space, they can two gap, they can move, 497 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: they can stay on their feet, they can get off blocks. 498 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: So I'm encouraged. It's built the right way. Big, strong, 499 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: fortifying the inside. They've got some edge speed on the 500 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, and that's the way today's NFL and 501 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: really a lot of NFL great defenses have been built. 502 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 1: So um again, I think they have more guys that 503 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: can give them quality snaps than they've had since Zach 504 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: Taylor's been here. Do you have the biggest disappointment or negative? 505 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: Is it Jamar's drops? Is it something else? Yeah? I 506 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: mean I think I think that, you know, again, it's 507 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: it's it's limited snaps, it's small sample size, but Lamar's 508 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: drops and Tea and Tyler Boyd, they just didn't play enough, 509 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, to be able to make a make a judgment. 510 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I want to see the Big 511 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: three get off to a really fast start, you know, 512 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: and I think I think they can. I think Joe 513 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Mixon is prime for a big year. And uh and 514 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: I think you know that if they can, if they 515 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: can run the football when they have to, you know, 516 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: sometimes it's like, you know, it's not going to be easy, 517 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: but you're still going to have to run the football. 518 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: And if you if you can't run the football, you're 519 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna be in real trouble. There's gonna be days where 520 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be easier to run the football, and 521 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: then everything falls into place. Some days you know, you 522 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: just can't run the football, and then it's going to 523 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: be harder to throw the football and you're gonna have 524 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: to figure out a way, you know, to be able 525 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: to be able to run the football. So I think 526 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is going to have a big impact on 527 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: this on this football team. And and the best defense 528 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: is an offense that you know, controls the clock, controls 529 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: the snap count. You know, if you're snapping the football 530 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: and a consistent basis ten to fifteen snaps per game 531 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: more than the opponent is, you got a shot. And 532 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: I think I think this team can do that kind 533 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: of thing. I think the defense can get off the 534 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: field and cost some turnovers, get the football extra possessions 535 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: of the football to the offense, and the offense take 536 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: advantage and just play really good complimentary football. I think 537 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: the roster is sound enough and deep enough to play 538 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: really sound, complimentary football. And in order to compete in 539 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: this division, never mind, you know, win more games than 540 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: you lose. Just to compete in this division, you dan 541 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: well better play complimentary football because all the others will 542 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: be This division is a beast, you know, set it before. 543 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: You can be a decent football team and still go 544 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: two and four or worse if you don't play complimentary football. 545 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: So you've better dan well play complimentary football. Uh and 546 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: play good sound you know not you can't expect to 547 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: play six perfect games, but minimize mistakes against the AFC North, 548 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: or it could be miserable for you seventeen games to 549 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: look forward to. The fun begins in two weeks. I 550 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: can't wait. I can't wait either. I'm hoping at least 551 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: eight and I get out of the double digit loss scenario. Win, 552 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, win eight and if I breaks fall your way, 553 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: maybe you can get up to double digit wins. Who knows, 554 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: But I can't wait either. I think it's going to 555 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: be interests to see how this whole thing unfolds. So 556 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: now we wait to find out who makes the fifty 557 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: three man roster. NFL teams have until four pm on 558 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: Tuesday to make their final cuts. That's going to do 559 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, brought 560 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: to you by bud Light Seltzer. Refresh the game. If 561 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: you haven't done so already, please subscribe, and if you 562 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: have a minute, give it a rating or share a 563 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: comment that helps more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm 564 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: Dan Horde, and thanks for listening to The Bengals Booth 565 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: Podcast