WEBVTT - EPISODE 10: $10,000 poker tournament; Where do dysfunctional Hawks turn next? 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:07.040 Welcome to this league, Uncut. In the world of twenty 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.680 four hour NBA news, Just do you lose? Chris Haynes, 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:17.280 did go time? Mark Stein? Show Time bumukaka Chris Hanes 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.840 and Mark Stein. This link uncut is underway and then fire. 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.960 This should be a good one. Good to be back 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:31.120 with you on this week, Uncut. Good to be reunited 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.760 with the one and only Chris Haynes. Already on the 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:41.159 move again. The NBA season restarts tonight. This is dropping 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.400 on Thursday. We're actually recording this on Wednesday night, but 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.200 I'm gonna say tonight because by the time you guys 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:51.760 hear this, it's Thursday. All Star break is over. Chris 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.120 Haynes already back at work. But gotta tell it, Gotta 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.400 ask you. You were in Salt Lake City. I was not. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.720 I think the less we say about that game the better. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.400 Not the most watchable All Star game in NBA history. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:09.280 But we want to hear about your escapades, what you 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.840 did behind the scene. I was a little sad. I 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.320 have to say. You had some sort of aggressive new 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.039 Cardigan on on Sunday. We just got a glimpse of 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.360 it when you did your one on one with Luca Donchech. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.160 But tell us, just tell us, man, what was it like? 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.920 What was it like behind the scenes off camera at 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.640 All Star weekend. All Star Weekend is always pretty cool 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:34.959 depending on the city that you're in for logistic purposes. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.600 But for Utah it was it was a pleasant surprise. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.760 I had more fun than I thought I would. UM 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:46.479 everything like all the events, the different affairs that agents 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:52.160 through or shoe companies through. Um, you were pretty close 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.160 to one another. So it wasn't pretty, It wasn't spread out, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.560 and so that was that was really good about Salt Lake. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.640 So you know, Rich Paul had an event. I went 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:07.720 to his event, Jeff Schwartz had an event. For Excel, 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.640 I went to his event. Adigas had an event, Puma 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.720 had an event. Trying to think who else? Kenny Smith 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.839 had his party? Who will talk about that? Who else? 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.440 He didn't lose all your money, did you? So let's 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:24.280 get to that. So last we left off, I Kenny 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:29.880 invited me to participate in his charity poker tournament, and 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.919 so did I said I would play because he said 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.720 he really needed me this. So this is like two 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.280 days before I had to leave for Salt Lake, and 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.080 so I didn't know how to play. And that's the 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.520 one thing I left off when talking to Kenny, because 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.840 he acted like he needed me so bad. He said 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.080 these big celebrities who were going to be there, and 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.960 I'm like, man, Kenny think I'm a celebrity. I gotta 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.840 be there. So I grabbed my I grabbed my neighbors. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.560 This would have been Wednesday of last week. I grabbed 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.079 my neighbors. They all know how to play poker. They 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.680 came over. We played poker at my house like eight 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.160 pm to like midnight, and I got pretty good. I 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.680 actually won the last two games. So I'm feeling okay. 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:12.760 So Stein, I go to Kitty's party, which is slash 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.519 a poker tournament. I go to the table and the 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.880 man that's conducting this particular table. There's multiple tables, but 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:25.720 man's conducting this particular table. Baron Davis is there, Robin 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.920 Think is there, and the guy tells me it's a 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:34.200 ten thousand dollars buy in. I immediately turned around and 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.760 went to the party instead. That was the end. I'm 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.960 not gonna lie. I was worried for you, but ten 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.680 I mean ten thousand. You are a celebrity, but We're 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.320 still just sports. We're just humble sports writers. Man, what 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.520 is Kenny trying to do to you? Thousand dollars buy in? 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.760 I immediately heard that number and retreat it to the 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.120 dass floor. There was no way you could buy in 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.920 and then turn that in as a work expense to 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:06.839 NBA research. Ten thousand dollars. There was no way staring. Look, look, 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.960 I have to I haven't had a chance to call 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.400 Kenney yet and tell him about that buying that that 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:19.040 little little detail he left out. But again, I was 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:23.640 thankful and I was humble that he chose me to 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.080 be a part of that game. I think he thinks 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.760 I'm making dough like I think. You know, I'm being prayed, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.840 paid well, being paid well, being paid the most I've 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.159 ever been paid. Turner is taking care of a brother. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.520 They ain't taking care of her brother. Well, I can 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.840 sput ten thousand on the game right there, you know 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.240 what I mean? I can. I can do it. But 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.440 then for the next week or so I'll be eating 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.320 below these sandwiches. So you know, it just wasn't the 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.200 right move for me. I think I made the right 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.800 decision at the end of the day. Paying a picture 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.800 for us, I see when I was not at All 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.400 Star Weekend. But you know, I can't say that I've 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.920 been to many of these agent parties painting what is 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.799 what is the Clutch Sports party at All Star Weekend? 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:07.640 Look like Clutch Sports party is all the all of 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:12.120 the Clutch Um players are obviously there who are in 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.320 the All Star Game or either in the Friday and 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.719 Saturday events. So it's it's like a dinner for them, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.360 but it's a slash kind of like a party dinner. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.960 And so Lebron was there, Dremond was there, Um, Jordan 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:31.839 Clark was there at the Edwards Deer and Fox. Who 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.640 else was in there? And there there's a bunch of gms. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.000 I don't want to start naming those names, but there's 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.480 I want you to know that. Yeah, that's pretty good. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.159 I don't know if they want that out there, but 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.599 that's pretty good. There are there are a bunch of 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:53.240 gms in there as well. Um, there are shoe executives there. Um, 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.160 I'm trying to think any celebrities. Twenty one Savage was 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.599 in there. Who's a rapper. I don't know if you 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.839 know who he is, Ty Gail, kids have heard of him? 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.520 I have heard of him. Progress. Gail Kings showed up. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.000 Gail King, and that is Oprah's best friend and she 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.720 has her own talk show. Gail King was there. I'm 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:13.440 trying to think there was a bunch of other people. 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.599 But yeah, that's pretty much how it is at a 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:21.240 Clutch Sports party slash dinner. The Excel party is the 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.040 same thing or is that a different vibe? Uh? Same thing? 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.320 It had a few had a few had a few 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.640 GMS in that one, but not not really the celebrity 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.279 um status there. But yeah, a few gms. So the 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:41.120 players there. CJ. McCollum was there, My guy Trey Murphy 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.600 was there. Who would participate in the slam dunk contests? 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.200 Trying to think who else did I see in there 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.040 as a player? Then Richard Jefferson showed up, Um Channing 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.880 Fry showed up. All former players. So that that's pretty 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.560 much how it goes. Man, So in Indy, will missus 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.200 Haynes let me be your plus one or can you 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.040 get a plus two for one of these parties? Come hostine, 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.920 you can get your own you can get your own invitation. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:11.880 Stop it you and just let's go way back. I'm 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.640 pretty sure he'll he'll look out for you sometimes sometimes 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:23.120 we do, sometimes we go. But it was cool. It 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.280 was cool all the events. And then at the end 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.560 of the day. So after after Sunday Night's game, they 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.600 all star Game watch. I know you have something to 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.160 say about. But Charles Barkley's birthday. You know, he turned 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:40.200 sixty at midnight, so Turner had a a kind of 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.720 a send off party slash birthday party for Chuck, and 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.280 so that was cool. Man. Chuck was all emotional. Man, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.360 He's a good dude. I spent Yeah, Chuck, Chuck's a 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.320 really good dude. Man. I spent so much time with 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.320 him over the weekend. And he knows my family, he 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.680 knows my best friends, and so you know, it's good 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.280 spending time with Chuck. Man. We watched the whole Saturday 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.040 night together. We left because we only had the pre 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.600 game obligations on the pregame show, and from there we 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.280 went back to our hotel. We went to the bar, 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.960 meat chucking, my family, we watched, We watched all of 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:16.240 Saturday to night with him. Charles Barkley is one of 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.000 my all time favorite people that I've ever encountered in 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:23.840 this job, and I can only imagine getting to spend 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.640 in close quarters like you have on TV. But I mean, look, 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.600 you know now you're gonna get me on my old notes. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.480 But I remember, like when I started covering the league 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.719 in the mid nineties, I mean, it was just it 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.800 was just a different time and Charles would just after practice, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.240 he would sit there for a half hour, forty five 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.560 minutes like he on TV. He loves to act like 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.839 he can't stand us in the media and we all 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.960 annoy him, but it's totally not true. And before games 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.720 in Houston, his Houston days, I mean the whole forty 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.680 five minutes before a game, he would hold court. He 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.840 would be available to the media the whole time. And 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:08.120 I remember my first playoffs nineteen, my first three or 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.240 four years covering the league at the La Daily News. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.160 My playoffs ended when the Lakers were out the Clippers. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.360 The Clippers did not make the playoffs the years that 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.360 I was on the beat, so basically, once the Lakers 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.840 were out, my season was over. When I came to 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.400 the Dallas Morning News that you know, the Mavericks were terrible, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.480 but they were like, no, we're the we are the 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.840 We're the paper of record in Texas. Week. You know, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.320 the Houston Rockets are in the conference finals, the Spurs 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.800 or in the conference finals, you will cover it. You 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:36.880 will cover those those teams as far as they go. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.800 So I remember my first playoff series for the Dallas 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:46.280 Morning News Utah Houston. We're in Salt Lake City and 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.480 Charles Barkley's eating on the street dinner, just him and 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.439 a pal. And he barely knew me then. I mean, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.080 I was like, I was only covering the league three 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.320 four years. Like he just insisted I joined them and 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.599 sit with them. Like, you know, he definitely has a 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.840 soft spot for us that I don't think comes through 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.520 on TV. So to be his teammate like you are, 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.319 I am. I am jealous. I know he's he is 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.640 a fantastic teammate. I'm would say this about Chuckle Quickso Stine, 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.120 So we're leaving again this Saturday night. We're leaving the 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.360 arena together. We're both hopping and sprinter together. So as 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.200 we're leaving, you know, he's loved by everybody. So we're 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.000 leaving and fans are saying we love you, Chuck, we 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.880 love you, and he yells back at love you too. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.440 And so I whispered and Chuck ere As we're walking 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.680 out the arena, I said, Chuck, you don't love them. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:37.800 He was like, hey, I gotta pay the bills. You 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.840 know what, though, I think you work with two guys though, 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.200 Chuck and Shock. Yeah, like as famous as they still. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.200 I mean, you see, Shock does more commercials than anybody, 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:53.880 more than any current player. I've never seen two superstars 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.800 who are so comfortable in crowds and with people. Yeah, 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.400 they really like everybody wants to talk to them and 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.080 touch them and you know, say something to them, and 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:10.400 like they really have incredible patience for everybody that wants 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.160 their attention. Yeah, it's it's cool to see. I'm glad 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.840 that there is you know where players can have a 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:22.040 probably even a more high profile career post their playing days. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.160 And that's you know, those are two Hall of famers, 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.600 the best ever played at their position. But you can 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.240 make its case they're probably more famous now. And Charles 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.480 is definitely more lovable now. I think you can say that, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.160 you know, he's a more lovable character than he was 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.720 when he was a player. So it's pretty cool to 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:45.600 see this, this formation of these guys right now. All right, well, 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.800 I would actually, I mean we could do a whole 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.760 pod on this, but I know everybody wants to get 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.680 to the to the real deal, because look, we're back 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.760 at the All Star break. It's very short for players 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.679 and very long for all of us on the outside 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.360 who want the game to come back and don't like 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.200 You know that All Star Game end Sunday night, and 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.400 we got to get through three plus days with no 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.760 games and we don't like it. So obviously, some big 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:14.360 news this week the Atlanta Hawks abruptly making a coaching change, 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.880 only the second coaching change of the season. Of course, 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.480 Brooklyn earlier replaced Steve Nash with Jacque Vaughn, and now 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.120 in Atlanta, Nate McMillan out. Joe pruntie In is the 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.120 interim coach, but the Hawks have already begun the search. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.800 Former Jazz coach Quinn Snyder is probably generating the most 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.760 buzz as a potential candidate, But like I said, I 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.000 always get it confused. I'm trying to keep us on 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.400 Thursday time, even though we're actually recording Wednesday night. But 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:49.040 tonight Wednesday night, I reported that former Celtics coach Emayludoka 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.720 is a candidate being considered by the Hawks. Also a 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.720 lot of buzz surrounding Charles Lee, the Bucks assistant who's 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:01.079 been in numerous head coaching searches lately. Just timing wise, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.200 tell me, tell me what you thought when you heard 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:08.079 that Atlanta was making this change. Now, not surprised, Not surprised, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.440 I would say it. I kind of thought Nate would 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:16.560 walk away, walk away mid season at some point, and so, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:24.360 you know, I'm curious to know if Nate felt, if 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.280 he was shocked by this move. You know, I don't know, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.040 maybe maybe there was a meeting or something like that 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.520 that happened where they kind of knew that Nate was 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.040 looking elsewhere, looking to get out out the door. I 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.040 don't know, but ultimately they made the decision, and so 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.800 I wasn't surprised that much. But I will say this 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.880 is that, you know, this is what's been going on 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.000 with the Atlanta Hawks. You know this this uh passes 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:58.600 super exceeds Nick McMillan's tenure there. This is something that's 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.000 been going on for a while. When I'm talking about dysfunction, 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.960 when you're talking about accountability, and I have to give 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.520 John Collins props, man, he came out stunt. I don't 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.560 know if you heard him in this press conference, he 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:13.200 was kind of saying, how you feel like Nate McMillan, 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.600 the way that he coaches, what he demands, he's more 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.640 suited for a veteran team. And he talked about the 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.440 need for guys to kind of grow up in this 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.560 locker room, to start being professional and handle things like men. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.880 And so I give him props for saying something like that, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.880 but I will say this, it's going to take an 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.760 awful lot And I know when Landry Fields took over 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.440 as a general manager, you know, we had a conversation 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:48.600 and he said what he wanted to implement was accountability. One, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.160 to be a resource to players where they can reach 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:56.000 out and voice their concerns with things. They want this 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.240 organization to be a more player friendly environment, and that 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.960 really hasn't been the case over the last four or 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.360 five years. There's been a lot of frustration with that 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:10.520 with that team, from ownership level, management level they're owned 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.960 down to the players. There's been a lot of frustration. So, 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.560 you know, I don't know if one coach can come 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.560 in here and fix things, but that's definitely a start, 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:23.680 and this will be the start of Landry Fields bringing 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.280 in his own guys, and no more important role than 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.920 the head coach. Yeah, look, I mean you know you 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:34.720 said it. I mean a coaching change in February after 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.360 in December, a full front office change. You don't often 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.560 see a front office shake up the magnitude that we 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:48.120 saw in December with multiple changes, you know, Travis Schlank 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:53.080 stepping away, Landry Fields and Kyle Korvern now coming in. 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.400 You know, Quinn Snyder, he's going to have a chance 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.600 at probably every coaching opening that arises here in the 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.280 near future. He had an incredible tenure in Utah, left 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.520 on his own terms. You know, it's been out there 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.760 since last March, almost a year, and it really goes 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.240 back even before that. Because I reported it last March, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:19.320 I was hearing it over a year ago that you know, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:24.640 San Antonio, there's interest there in Quinn Snyder to be 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:29.520 Pop's eventual replacement Atlanta. You know, Landry Fields had a 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:33.880 press conference Wednesday, and the only candidate that the Hawks 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:39.040 have publicly acknowledged as a replacement potential replacement for Nate 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.040 McMillan is Quinn Snyder's. Now, I think I think part 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.640 of that Landryfields was pretty open that Quinn is not 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.200 affiliated with a team right now, So that's why he 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.000 feels comfortable saying his name. He's not going to mention 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.880 someone like Charles Lee, who was obviously on Mike Budenholder's 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:58.680 Mike Budenholzer's staff in Milwaukee. But yeah, like, how quickly 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.160 the Hawks will move, what direction they ultimately go, How 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:08.159 seriously emay Udoka will be considered for this position after 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:13.280 the circumstances, circumstances surrounding his exit in Boston. What other 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:17.159 candidates they have that we don't know about yet. A 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.640 lot of questions and look and you know a lot 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.800 of you know, there will people will be watching very 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.359 closely how Landry Fields and Kyle Korver proceed in this search. 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.240 But also Trey Young, I mean Trey the spotlight, the 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.240 scrutiny that Trey Young is going to face now. This 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:38.400 is the second significant coaching change in his time as 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.199 a player. And the reality is, you know, it's Charles 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.679 Barkley saying, you know, the stars get all the blame 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.600 and the Stars get all the credit, and the Hawks 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.880 have you know, not been able to maintain haven't come 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.960 close to being able to maintain the momentum from their 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.240 trip to the East Finals a couple of years ago, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.480 twenty twenty one. So I mean, yeah, there's a lot 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.960 of curiosity league wide about where the Hawks go from here. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:08.919 There are a few Hawks players who would love a 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:13.480 potential edition of email Udoka. I'll just throw that out there. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:18.360 But definitely already for the reasons you've said, But definitely 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.240 Quinn Snyder, it looked like he's going to have a 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:25.840 fantastic opportunity to get this job. You know, wants the 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:30.240 process really starts with them interview in candidate. So I 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:34.879 like Quinn Snyder. Hell of a coach, great, great coach 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:39.760 in mind relationships. One thing that I hear about him 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.720 is like he's good with relationships and communication, and that's 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.359 going to be key when you're talking about the Atlanta Hawks, 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.040 because it seems like over the last i don't know, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.360 half a decade, that hasn't been the case over there. 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.680 So that's one thing they want to install. And look, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.639 email Udoka is a great coach. You don't get to 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.800 the NBA Finals in your first season if you can't coach. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.920 I mean, he had an instant impact as a coach there. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.040 But the reality is emay Udoka was suspended for this 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.879 entire season by the Celtics for what they deemed to 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.000 be a relationship with a female staff member that violated 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:20.359 team policy. Boston has made Joe Missoula the full time replacement, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.240 so obviously Emote Emayudoca's not going back to Boston. How 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.520 seriously with the Hawks consider him? When it comes to 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.520 Quinn Snyder, we don't know are the Hawks his first choice? 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:33.320 You know, I don't know that. I have not seen 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.560 Quinn since the playoffs last season, so I don't know. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.880 You know, this search on one hand, it's in its infancy. 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.440 But on the other hand, you can probably assume that 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.800 the Hawks have been thinking about this for some time, 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.720 knew that one way or the other, this very well 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.440 likely was going to be Nate McMillan's last season. So 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:57.480 surely the Hawks have been pondering this and probably have 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.920 a better idea of the direction they want go than 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.240 we do. Twenty four forty eight hours after the announcement. Yeah, 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.720 they should. This is something obviously they've been planning for 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:10.600 a while. And you know this, this is Langrye Field. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.440 This is his first major move that he's going to 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:18.120 make to try to get you know, get this team 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.640 in turn the corner because they have you know, Trey Young, 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:25.000 and I know Trey Young. People are blaming him for 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.919 Nate McMillan's ouster. This is the second coach that has 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.080 has been fired, you know, while Trey has been there, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.920 Lloyd Pierce first, now Nate McMillan, and I think it's 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:41.080 unfair to blame Trey. You don't, that's that's not how 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.000 this happened. I haven't heard anything. I was not told 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.479 that Trey asked for it, for Nate to be let go, 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.600 anything like that. So that's that's just not true. That's 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.240 not factual. But what I what I will say is 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.440 that the Hawks have a window here. They have they 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.760 have a window to get this right. With their star player, Trey. 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.480 He wants to win, He wants to win big. I 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.359 know him and know him and know him well, I 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.600 know him and his family. They want they want to 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.600 win big. So there's a window right here to try 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:12.200 to get things right. And so you know, that's that's 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.280 why you know, you add on top, you add the 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.480 trade element to it, and that's why this this decision 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.879 on this next coaches is a real pivotal moment for 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:24.920 the organization. How do you think, I mean, put the 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:29.520 Atlanta coaching situation aside, your Trey Young is not he 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.840 was not an All Star. He's not selected by the coaches. 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.119 He was. The play where he landed in the player 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.800 vote was low, and I think a lot of eyebrows 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.919 were raised by that. How do you think he's handling 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:45.679 this kind of I don't know, rocky road bumpy period, 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.480 however you want to describe it. When you know again 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:51.040 two years ago he was you know, he's one of 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.520 the young toasts of the league leading the Hawks to 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:57.120 the conference finals. Obviously this season they're there, They're way 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.679 off that level. I haven't spoken trade yet, but what 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.199 I will say, you know I spoken to him previous 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:11.840 times with other situations that may have occurred. But he's 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.800 used to it. He's used to it. You know, he's 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.280 he's a guy that came into the league. I believe 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:19.439 he still does it. But you know, he used to 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:24.919 write down and keep tally of all the writers or 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.600 reporters who had negative things to say about him, and 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:33.359 he like kept tally. He kept track to see what 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.239 they said and to go out there and prove them wrong. Like, 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:40.639 so he's he's somebody that's used to, you know, hearing 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:44.240 his name kind of be I guess you could say disrespected. 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.440 I believe that's the way he would see it. And 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.520 you know that that that kind of fuels him. So 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.679 with this situation right here, I really think he's like, 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.600 I don't think this situation right here has him fretting 0:22:56.680 --> 0:23:00.680 at all. I really think he's used to it. He's gonna, 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.000 you know, get through it, like he's gotten through all 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.919 the other you know, obstacles that came throughout his career, 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.679 and I think this is just one more. But ultimately, 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.800 I think it's going to come a day where the 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.600 Hawks are going to have to get this right. And 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.359 I think, to your question, Stein, so it sound like 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:28.000 you you're kind of you're kind of questioning his star capacity. 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.680 What are you what are you doing stearing? Oh yeah, man, Well, 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.000 I think I think I don't think it's just me 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.119