1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to this league, Uncut. In the world of twenty 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: four hour NBA news, Just do you lose? Chris Haynes, 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: did go time? Mark Stein? Show Time bumukaka Chris Hanes 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: and Mark Stein. This link uncut is underway and then fire. 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: This should be a good one. Good to be back 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: with you on this week, Uncut. Good to be reunited 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: with the one and only Chris Haynes. Already on the 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: move again. The NBA season restarts tonight. This is dropping 9 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday. We're actually recording this on Wednesday night, but 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say tonight because by the time you guys 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: hear this, it's Thursday. All Star break is over. Chris 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Haynes already back at work. But gotta tell it, Gotta 13 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: ask you. You were in Salt Lake City. I was not. 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: I think the less we say about that game the better. 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Not the most watchable All Star game in NBA history. 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: But we want to hear about your escapades, what you 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: did behind the scene. I was a little sad. I 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: have to say. You had some sort of aggressive new 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Cardigan on on Sunday. We just got a glimpse of 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: it when you did your one on one with Luca Donchech. 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: But tell us, just tell us, man, what was it like? 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: What was it like behind the scenes off camera at 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: All Star weekend. All Star Weekend is always pretty cool 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: depending on the city that you're in for logistic purposes. 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: But for Utah it was it was a pleasant surprise. 26 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: I had more fun than I thought I would. UM 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: everything like all the events, the different affairs that agents 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: through or shoe companies through. Um, you were pretty close 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: to one another. So it wasn't pretty, It wasn't spread out, 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: and so that was that was really good about Salt Lake. 31 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: So you know, Rich Paul had an event. I went 32 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: to his event, Jeff Schwartz had an event. For Excel, 33 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: I went to his event. Adigas had an event, Puma 34 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: had an event. Trying to think who else? Kenny Smith 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: had his party? Who will talk about that? Who else? 36 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: He didn't lose all your money, did you? So let's 37 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: get to that. So last we left off, I Kenny 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: invited me to participate in his charity poker tournament, and 39 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: so did I said I would play because he said 40 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: he really needed me this. So this is like two 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: days before I had to leave for Salt Lake, and 42 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: so I didn't know how to play. And that's the 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: one thing I left off when talking to Kenny, because 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: he acted like he needed me so bad. He said 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: these big celebrities who were going to be there, and 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, Kenny think I'm a celebrity. I gotta 47 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: be there. So I grabbed my I grabbed my neighbors. 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: This would have been Wednesday of last week. I grabbed 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: my neighbors. They all know how to play poker. They 50 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: came over. We played poker at my house like eight 51 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: pm to like midnight, and I got pretty good. I 52 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: actually won the last two games. So I'm feeling okay. 53 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: So Stein, I go to Kitty's party, which is slash 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: a poker tournament. I go to the table and the 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: man that's conducting this particular table. There's multiple tables, but 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: man's conducting this particular table. Baron Davis is there, Robin 57 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Think is there, and the guy tells me it's a 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars buy in. I immediately turned around and 59 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: went to the party instead. That was the end. I'm 60 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I was worried for you, but ten 61 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean ten thousand. You are a celebrity, but We're 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: still just sports. We're just humble sports writers. Man, what 63 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: is Kenny trying to do to you? Thousand dollars buy in? 64 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: I immediately heard that number and retreat it to the 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: dass floor. There was no way you could buy in 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: and then turn that in as a work expense to 67 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: NBA research. Ten thousand dollars. There was no way staring. Look, look, 68 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: I have to I haven't had a chance to call 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Kenney yet and tell him about that buying that that 70 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: little little detail he left out. But again, I was 71 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: thankful and I was humble that he chose me to 72 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: be a part of that game. I think he thinks 73 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm making dough like I think. You know, I'm being prayed, 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: paid well, being paid well, being paid the most I've 75 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: ever been paid. Turner is taking care of a brother. 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: They ain't taking care of her brother. Well, I can 77 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: sput ten thousand on the game right there, you know 78 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: what I mean? I can. I can do it. But 79 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: then for the next week or so I'll be eating 80 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: below these sandwiches. So you know, it just wasn't the 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: right move for me. I think I made the right 82 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: decision at the end of the day. Paying a picture 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: for us, I see when I was not at All 84 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: Star Weekend. But you know, I can't say that I've 85 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: been to many of these agent parties painting what is 86 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: what is the Clutch Sports party at All Star Weekend? 87 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Look like Clutch Sports party is all the all of 88 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the Clutch Um players are obviously there who are in 89 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: the All Star Game or either in the Friday and 90 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: Saturday events. So it's it's like a dinner for them, 91 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: but it's a slash kind of like a party dinner. 92 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: And so Lebron was there, Dremond was there, Um, Jordan 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: Clark was there at the Edwards Deer and Fox. Who 94 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: else was in there? And there there's a bunch of gms. 95 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to start naming those names, but there's 96 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: I want you to know that. Yeah, that's pretty good. 97 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if they want that out there, but 98 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. There are there are a bunch of 99 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: gms in there as well. Um, there are shoe executives there. Um, 100 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think any celebrities. Twenty one Savage was 101 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: in there. Who's a rapper. I don't know if you 102 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: know who he is, Ty Gail, kids have heard of him? 103 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: I have heard of him. Progress. Gail Kings showed up. 104 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Gail King, and that is Oprah's best friend and she 105 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: has her own talk show. Gail King was there. I'm 106 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: trying to think there was a bunch of other people. 107 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's pretty much how it is at a 108 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: Clutch Sports party slash dinner. The Excel party is the 109 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: same thing or is that a different vibe? Uh? Same thing? 110 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: It had a few had a few had a few 111 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: GMS in that one, but not not really the celebrity 112 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: um status there. But yeah, a few gms. So the 113 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: players there. CJ. McCollum was there, My guy Trey Murphy 114 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: was there. Who would participate in the slam dunk contests? 115 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: Trying to think who else did I see in there 116 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: as a player? Then Richard Jefferson showed up, Um Channing 117 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: Fry showed up. All former players. So that that's pretty 118 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: much how it goes. Man, So in Indy, will missus 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Haynes let me be your plus one or can you 120 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: get a plus two for one of these parties? Come hostine, 121 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: you can get your own you can get your own invitation. 122 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Stop it you and just let's go way back. I'm 123 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: pretty sure he'll he'll look out for you sometimes sometimes 124 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: we do, sometimes we go. But it was cool. It 125 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: was cool all the events. And then at the end 126 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: of the day. So after after Sunday Night's game, they 127 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: all star Game watch. I know you have something to 128 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: say about. But Charles Barkley's birthday. You know, he turned 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: sixty at midnight, so Turner had a a kind of 130 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: a send off party slash birthday party for Chuck, and 131 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: so that was cool. Man. Chuck was all emotional. Man, 132 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: He's a good dude. I spent Yeah, Chuck, Chuck's a 133 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: really good dude. Man. I spent so much time with 134 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: him over the weekend. And he knows my family, he 135 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: knows my best friends, and so you know, it's good 136 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: spending time with Chuck. Man. We watched the whole Saturday 137 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: night together. We left because we only had the pre 138 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: game obligations on the pregame show, and from there we 139 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: went back to our hotel. We went to the bar, 140 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: meat chucking, my family, we watched, We watched all of 141 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Saturday to night with him. Charles Barkley is one of 142 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: my all time favorite people that I've ever encountered in 143 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: this job, and I can only imagine getting to spend 144 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: in close quarters like you have on TV. But I mean, look, 145 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: you know now you're gonna get me on my old notes. 146 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: But I remember, like when I started covering the league 147 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: in the mid nineties, I mean, it was just it 148 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: was just a different time and Charles would just after practice, 149 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: he would sit there for a half hour, forty five 150 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: minutes like he on TV. He loves to act like 151 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: he can't stand us in the media and we all 152 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: annoy him, but it's totally not true. And before games 153 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: in Houston, his Houston days, I mean the whole forty 154 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: five minutes before a game, he would hold court. He 155 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: would be available to the media the whole time. And 156 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: I remember my first playoffs nineteen, my first three or 157 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: four years covering the league at the La Daily News. 158 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: My playoffs ended when the Lakers were out the Clippers. 159 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: The Clippers did not make the playoffs the years that 160 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I was on the beat, so basically, once the Lakers 161 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: were out, my season was over. When I came to 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: the Dallas Morning News that you know, the Mavericks were terrible, 163 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: but they were like, no, we're the we are the 164 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: We're the paper of record in Texas. Week. You know, 165 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets are in the conference finals, the Spurs 166 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: or in the conference finals, you will cover it. You 167 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: will cover those those teams as far as they go. 168 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: So I remember my first playoff series for the Dallas 169 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Morning News Utah Houston. We're in Salt Lake City and 170 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley's eating on the street dinner, just him and 171 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: a pal. And he barely knew me then. I mean, 172 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I was only covering the league three 173 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: four years. Like he just insisted I joined them and 174 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: sit with them. Like, you know, he definitely has a 175 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: soft spot for us that I don't think comes through 176 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: on TV. So to be his teammate like you are, 177 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: I am. I am jealous. I know he's he is 178 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: a fantastic teammate. I'm would say this about Chuckle Quickso Stine, 179 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: So we're leaving again this Saturday night. We're leaving the 180 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: arena together. We're both hopping and sprinter together. So as 181 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: we're leaving, you know, he's loved by everybody. So we're 182 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: leaving and fans are saying we love you, Chuck, we 183 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: love you, and he yells back at love you too. 184 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: And so I whispered and Chuck ere As we're walking 185 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: out the arena, I said, Chuck, you don't love them. 186 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: He was like, hey, I gotta pay the bills. You 187 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: know what, though, I think you work with two guys though, 188 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: Chuck and Shock. Yeah, like as famous as they still. 189 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you see, Shock does more commercials than anybody, 190 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: more than any current player. I've never seen two superstars 191 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: who are so comfortable in crowds and with people. Yeah, 192 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: they really like everybody wants to talk to them and 193 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: touch them and you know, say something to them, and 194 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: like they really have incredible patience for everybody that wants 195 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: their attention. Yeah, it's it's cool to see. I'm glad 196 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: that there is you know where players can have a 197 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: probably even a more high profile career post their playing days. 198 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: And that's you know, those are two Hall of famers, 199 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: the best ever played at their position. But you can 200 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: make its case they're probably more famous now. And Charles 201 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: is definitely more lovable now. I think you can say that, 202 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, he's a more lovable character than he was 203 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: when he was a player. So it's pretty cool to 204 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: see this, this formation of these guys right now. All right, well, 205 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: I would actually, I mean we could do a whole 206 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: pod on this, but I know everybody wants to get 207 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: to the to the real deal, because look, we're back 208 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: at the All Star break. It's very short for players 209 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: and very long for all of us on the outside 210 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: who want the game to come back and don't like 211 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: You know that All Star Game end Sunday night, and 212 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: we got to get through three plus days with no 213 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: games and we don't like it. So obviously, some big 214 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: news this week the Atlanta Hawks abruptly making a coaching change, 215 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: only the second coaching change of the season. Of course, 216 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: Brooklyn earlier replaced Steve Nash with Jacque Vaughn, and now 217 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Nate McMillan out. Joe pruntie In is the 218 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: interim coach, but the Hawks have already begun the search. 219 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Former Jazz coach Quinn Snyder is probably generating the most 220 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: buzz as a potential candidate, But like I said, I 221 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: always get it confused. I'm trying to keep us on 222 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: Thursday time, even though we're actually recording Wednesday night. But 223 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: tonight Wednesday night, I reported that former Celtics coach Emayludoka 224 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: is a candidate being considered by the Hawks. Also a 225 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: lot of buzz surrounding Charles Lee, the Bucks assistant who's 226 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: been in numerous head coaching searches lately. Just timing wise, 227 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: tell me, tell me what you thought when you heard 228 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: that Atlanta was making this change. Now, not surprised, Not surprised, 229 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: I would say it. I kind of thought Nate would 230 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: walk away, walk away mid season at some point, and so, 231 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm curious to know if Nate felt, if 232 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: he was shocked by this move. You know, I don't know, 233 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: maybe maybe there was a meeting or something like that 234 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: that happened where they kind of knew that Nate was 235 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: looking elsewhere, looking to get out out the door. I 236 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: don't know, but ultimately they made the decision, and so 237 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that much. But I will say this 238 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: is that, you know, this is what's been going on 239 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Hawks. You know this this uh passes 240 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: super exceeds Nick McMillan's tenure there. This is something that's 241 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: been going on for a while. When I'm talking about dysfunction, 242 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: when you're talking about accountability, and I have to give 243 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: John Collins props, man, he came out stunt. I don't 244 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: know if you heard him in this press conference, he 245 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: was kind of saying, how you feel like Nate McMillan, 246 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: the way that he coaches, what he demands, he's more 247 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: suited for a veteran team. And he talked about the 248 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: need for guys to kind of grow up in this 249 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: locker room, to start being professional and handle things like men. 250 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: And so I give him props for saying something like that, 251 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: but I will say this, it's going to take an 252 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: awful lot And I know when Landry Fields took over 253 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: as a general manager, you know, we had a conversation 254 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: and he said what he wanted to implement was accountability. One, 255 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: to be a resource to players where they can reach 256 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: out and voice their concerns with things. They want this 257 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: organization to be a more player friendly environment, and that 258 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: really hasn't been the case over the last four or 259 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: five years. There's been a lot of frustration with that 260 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: with that team, from ownership level, management level they're owned 261 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: down to the players. There's been a lot of frustration. So, 262 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if one coach can come 263 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: in here and fix things, but that's definitely a start, 264 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: and this will be the start of Landry Fields bringing 265 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: in his own guys, and no more important role than 266 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: the head coach. Yeah, look, I mean you know you 267 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: said it. I mean a coaching change in February after 268 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: in December, a full front office change. You don't often 269 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: see a front office shake up the magnitude that we 270 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: saw in December with multiple changes, you know, Travis Schlank 271 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: stepping away, Landry Fields and Kyle Korvern now coming in. 272 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, Quinn Snyder, he's going to have a chance 273 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: at probably every coaching opening that arises here in the 274 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: near future. He had an incredible tenure in Utah, left 275 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: on his own terms. You know, it's been out there 276 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: since last March, almost a year, and it really goes 277 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: back even before that. Because I reported it last March, 278 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: I was hearing it over a year ago that you know, 279 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: San Antonio, there's interest there in Quinn Snyder to be 280 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Pop's eventual replacement Atlanta. You know, Landry Fields had a 281 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: press conference Wednesday, and the only candidate that the Hawks 282 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: have publicly acknowledged as a replacement potential replacement for Nate 283 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: McMillan is Quinn Snyder's. Now, I think I think part 284 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: of that Landryfields was pretty open that Quinn is not 285 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: affiliated with a team right now, So that's why he 286 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: feels comfortable saying his name. He's not going to mention 287 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: someone like Charles Lee, who was obviously on Mike Budenholder's 288 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: Mike Budenholzer's staff in Milwaukee. But yeah, like, how quickly 289 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: the Hawks will move, what direction they ultimately go, How 290 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: seriously emay Udoka will be considered for this position after 291 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: the circumstances, circumstances surrounding his exit in Boston. What other 292 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: candidates they have that we don't know about yet. A 293 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: lot of questions and look and you know a lot 294 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: of you know, there will people will be watching very 295 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: closely how Landry Fields and Kyle Korver proceed in this search. 296 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: But also Trey Young, I mean Trey the spotlight, the 297 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: scrutiny that Trey Young is going to face now. This 298 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: is the second significant coaching change in his time as 299 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: a player. And the reality is, you know, it's Charles 300 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: Barkley saying, you know, the stars get all the blame 301 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: and the Stars get all the credit, and the Hawks 302 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: have you know, not been able to maintain haven't come 303 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: close to being able to maintain the momentum from their 304 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: trip to the East Finals a couple of years ago, 305 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. So I mean, yeah, there's a lot 306 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: of curiosity league wide about where the Hawks go from here. 307 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: There are a few Hawks players who would love a 308 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: potential edition of email Udoka. I'll just throw that out there. 309 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: But definitely already for the reasons you've said, But definitely 310 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder, it looked like he's going to have a 311 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: fantastic opportunity to get this job. You know, wants the 312 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: process really starts with them interview in candidate. So I 313 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: like Quinn Snyder. Hell of a coach, great, great coach 314 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: in mind relationships. One thing that I hear about him 315 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: is like he's good with relationships and communication, and that's 316 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: going to be key when you're talking about the Atlanta Hawks, 317 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: because it seems like over the last i don't know, 318 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: half a decade, that hasn't been the case over there. 319 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: So that's one thing they want to install. And look, 320 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: email Udoka is a great coach. You don't get to 321 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals in your first season if you can't coach. 322 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he had an instant impact as a coach there. 323 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: But the reality is emay Udoka was suspended for this 324 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: entire season by the Celtics for what they deemed to 325 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: be a relationship with a female staff member that violated 326 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: team policy. Boston has made Joe Missoula the full time replacement, 327 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: so obviously Emote Emayudoca's not going back to Boston. How 328 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: seriously with the Hawks consider him? When it comes to 329 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder, we don't know are the Hawks his first choice? 330 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that. I have not seen 331 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Quinn since the playoffs last season, so I don't know. 332 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: You know, this search on one hand, it's in its infancy. 333 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, you can probably assume that 334 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: the Hawks have been thinking about this for some time, 335 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: knew that one way or the other, this very well 336 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: likely was going to be Nate McMillan's last season. So 337 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: surely the Hawks have been pondering this and probably have 338 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: a better idea of the direction they want go than 339 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: we do. Twenty four forty eight hours after the announcement. Yeah, 340 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: they should. This is something obviously they've been planning for 341 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: a while. And you know this, this is Langrye Field. 342 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: This is his first major move that he's going to 343 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: make to try to get you know, get this team 344 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: in turn the corner because they have you know, Trey Young, 345 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: and I know Trey Young. People are blaming him for 346 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: Nate McMillan's ouster. This is the second coach that has 347 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: has been fired, you know, while Trey has been there, 348 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: Lloyd Pierce first, now Nate McMillan, and I think it's 349 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: unfair to blame Trey. You don't, that's that's not how 350 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: this happened. I haven't heard anything. I was not told 351 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: that Trey asked for it, for Nate to be let go, 352 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: anything like that. So that's that's just not true. That's 353 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: not factual. But what I what I will say is 354 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: that the Hawks have a window here. They have they 355 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: have a window to get this right. With their star player, Trey. 356 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: He wants to win, He wants to win big. I 357 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: know him and know him and know him well, I 358 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: know him and his family. They want they want to 359 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: win big. So there's a window right here to try 360 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: to get things right. And so you know, that's that's 361 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: why you know, you add on top, you add the 362 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: trade element to it, and that's why this this decision 363 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: on this next coaches is a real pivotal moment for 364 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: the organization. How do you think, I mean, put the 365 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta coaching situation aside, your Trey Young is not he 366 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: was not an All Star. He's not selected by the coaches. 367 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: He was. The play where he landed in the player 368 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: vote was low, and I think a lot of eyebrows 369 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: were raised by that. How do you think he's handling 370 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: this kind of I don't know, rocky road bumpy period, 371 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: however you want to describe it. When you know again 372 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: two years ago he was you know, he's one of 373 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the young toasts of the league leading the Hawks to 374 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: the conference finals. Obviously this season they're there, They're way 375 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: off that level. I haven't spoken trade yet, but what 376 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: I will say, you know I spoken to him previous 377 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: times with other situations that may have occurred. But he's 378 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: used to it. He's used to it. You know, he's 379 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: he's a guy that came into the league. I believe 380 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: he still does it. But you know, he used to 381 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: write down and keep tally of all the writers or 382 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: reporters who had negative things to say about him, and 383 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: he like kept tally. He kept track to see what 384 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 1: they said and to go out there and prove them wrong. Like, 385 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: so he's he's somebody that's used to, you know, hearing 386 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: his name kind of be I guess you could say disrespected. 387 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: I believe that's the way he would see it. And 388 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: you know that that that kind of fuels him. So 389 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: with this situation right here, I really think he's like, 390 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't think this situation right here has him fretting 391 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: at all. I really think he's used to it. He's gonna, 392 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, get through it, like he's gotten through all 393 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: the other you know, obstacles that came throughout his career, 394 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: and I think this is just one more. But ultimately, 395 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I think it's going to come a day where the 396 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: Hawks are going to have to get this right. And 397 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: I think, to your question, Stein, so it sound like 398 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: you you're kind of you're kind of questioning his star capacity. 399 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: What are you what are you doing stearing? Oh yeah, man, Well, 400 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: I think I think I don't think it's just me 401 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: at this point. I mean the fact that among his 402 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: fellow pros that he and of course I should have 403 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: this right at my fingertips, and I don't. I'm actually 404 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: gonna look it up as we speak. But it was 405 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: eye opening to me that when the players voted in 406 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: the All Star that. You know, he wasn't as high 407 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: as you would you would have thought a caliber you know, 408 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: the kind of caliber player he is. I mean, I look, 409 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: I I thought that Trey and Janta Murray. I loved 410 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: the Dejontay Murray move. I thought that those guys were 411 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: gonna flourish. I know there were fit concerns and you know, 412 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: Ganta shoot it well enough for them to click well. 413 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: But I mean that's the thing. There's talent here for 414 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: whoever that next coach is. You know, it's not like 415 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing to work with in Atlanta. And you know 416 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned John, you mentioned John Collins as well. I mean, 417 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: it's amazing John Collins has now been his name has 418 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: been bandied about at four consecutive trade deadlines, and I 419 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: really thought this time was the year he was gonna move. 420 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: But I mean there was definitely some hesitation out there 421 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: to take on his contract with three more years left 422 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: on it. But yeah, I'm looking at this. I'm looking 423 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: at this now. So where did he fall? Because before 424 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: you tell me, I'm just going to name off. You know, 425 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: Kyrie was voted in so among player votes, Trey was 426 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: twelfth among East guards among players, and that I mean 427 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: that does He was twelve amongst guards among yeah, in 428 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: player vote, you know, not the media. Um, so that 429 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: was that was surprising. Okay, twelve, Yeah, that's pretty low there. 430 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: That's pretty low there. In the player vote, Kyrie Irving one, 431 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell two, Jalen Brown three, Damar de Rosen four, 432 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: James Harden five, Tyrese Haliburton six, Darius Garland seven, Jalen 433 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: Brunson eight. What the NBA sent out doesn't even list Okay, 434 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball was nine, ten and eleven were not even 435 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: listed on what was released by the NBA. And Trey 436 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: Young was twelfth among the players in the guard vote. 437 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: So I mean that that says he's got work to 438 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: do on his reputation. When your peers are ranking you six, five, six, 439 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: seven spots below where the fans and the media have you, 440 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's something. That's that's not that's not nothing. 441 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: No horness, our second to last place, and Lamel always 442 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: picked ahead of Trey Is that right? Steinla was nine 443 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: among the players, seven among the fans, ten among them. Yeah, 444 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: and he's missed half to say, yeah, players don't always 445 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: get it right, obviously, But no, with that being said, yeah, 446 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: like there's been speculation that Trey is hard to play with. 447 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: We've heard that, but the guy, come on, now, he 448 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: is an all star talent. He is an all star 449 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: talent that you know you have to and that that's 450 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: not a talent that any franchise just wants to lose. 451 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: So you know, that's that's another reason they're trying to 452 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: do everything they can to get this thing right. They 453 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: really value the Hawks, really value Trey as a player 454 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: and person. So you know that's why this is such 455 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: a pivotal move. Yep, no question, It's gonna be very 456 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: interesting to see, you know, the kind of what other 457 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: candidates emerge or maybe you know, maybe we already know 458 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: the three main candidates. I guess we will. I have 459 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: a feeling more names William urge. And I'm really curious 460 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: to see what they do here because again, this is 461 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: for a new coach, this should be one of the 462 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: better situations because again there is still a lot of 463 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: talent on this Hawks roster despite what's happened here last 464 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: season and this season. I know you got to go 465 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: soon and tomorrow night, you got Warriors at Lakers. Is 466 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: that your that's your assignment is correct. So it's been 467 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: pretty busy in the buyout market. A lot going on. 468 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook is a Clipper now, Terrence Ross is a son, 469 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson is a nugget. Kevin Love to Miami with 470 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: the heat, Justin Holliday in Dallas, Pat Bev is a bull, 471 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: Danny Green with the Calves. We've seen a lot of movement, 472 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: but then there's the reality about the buyout market. Haja 473 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: Stoyakovich in twenty eleven as a buyout guy, he helped 474 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: the Mavericks win a championship. I had a front row 475 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: seat for that. But it's funny. PJ Brown, who is 476 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: often described as the number one most successful buyout market 477 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: story and I know because I've said that fifty times, 478 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: But the truth is PJ was actually not playing that 479 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven o eight when he joined 480 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: the Celtics. He really was more like a DeMarcus Cousins 481 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: or a Carmelo Anthony. Now, guys who haven't played all 482 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: season then PJ Brown hadn't played that season and then 483 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: joined the Celtics and had a big role. So even 484 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: PJ Brown, who's so frequently suggested to be your meant 485 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: you described as this buyout market success. He's not really 486 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: a buyout market success. It's rare that we see a 487 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: buyout market guy make a difference. Out of all those guys, 488 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: Who's going to make the biggest difference? Does does Love 489 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: end up carving out a big role in Miami? Does 490 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: Russ and the Clippers? Does that work? There's a lot 491 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: of skepticism already. Which is the one that you are 492 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: most interested in? Well, I think the difference I think 493 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Love and Russ I think stand out to me 494 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: over the other ones you mentioned, because I believe those 495 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: other ones they're going to be complimentary pieces. And don't 496 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: get me wrong, Kevin Love and Russ, they're going to 497 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: be complimentary pieces. But I think that they'll have probably 498 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: more of a workload, and even more so Russ because 499 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: I just think the way he plays the game, that's 500 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: just what comes with it. He's going to give you 501 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: his all. He's going to get to the rim, He's 502 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: going to attack the rim. You can't have Russ on 503 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: the team and not allow him to be able to 504 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: be himself. And so I think pay dividends. Look, I 505 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: would like to see a nice storyline of Russ going 506 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: over there and making things work, proving a doubt is 507 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: wrong standing in La maybe, you know, having a series 508 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: with the Lakers, I would like to see something happen 509 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: with where, you know, where he could kind of redeem himself. 510 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: But with that being say, if if we're talking about 511 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: Russ and Kevin Love, I will go towards Sam. Russ 512 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: will probably have more of an impact. How big of 513 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: an impact that is, how much will it equate to winning? 514 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think the Clippers and Russ 515 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: are committed to trying to make this work. Well, look, 516 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: the players are back at him, the other members of 517 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: the Clippers. It really sounds like they're the ones who 518 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: made this happen. Because Lawrence Frank was pretty adamant when 519 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: he spoke to the media after the trade deadline. If 520 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: we're going to bring another garden here, we need a 521 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: floor space or a good shooter who's not going to 522 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: be ball dominant, and you know Russ is ball dominant 523 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: and not a floor space or so on one hand, 524 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: you sit here and say, how is this going to work? 525 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: But to me, the Bulls are too far gone for 526 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Pat bev to make any kind of significant difference there. 527 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: I think Reggie Jackson will help Denver. I really like 528 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: Thomas Bryan and Reggie Jackson are nice additions for the 529 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: Nuggets just to clean their bench up. Danny Green brings 530 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: an old head presence to Cleveland that they they with 531 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Love leaving, they you know, that's a void that 532 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: he certainly fills. And you know that's a young team 533 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: with big dreams, and so they need some veteran guidance. 534 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, look, Russ. Russ and Love are 535 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: the two that jump off the page for me too. 536 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: And Miami needs shooting, so there is going to be 537 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity for Love to get on the floor there 538 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: and see if he can make shots and get into 539 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: that heat rotation and make a difference. But yeah, Russ 540 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: to the Clippers is going to be fascinating theater, no question. 541 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: All right, sir, I'm gonna let you go and get 542 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: five minutes of rest before your next assignments. Warriors at Lakers. 543 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: No Steph Curry for at least another week. Lakers the 544 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: first of the most important twenty three games of Lebron 545 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: James career. As he said the other day, Chris Hanes 546 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: will be on the sideline for that. No cardigan though, 547 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: right tonight. No cardigan. No cardigan, regular suit, regular suit. 548 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: I thought you'd be proud of me. We're in that 549 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: card I liked it. I liked it. I'm sad we 550 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: didn't see more of it. Yeah, there's a story behind 551 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: that cardigan. But well, I'll tell you in the next episode, 552 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: all right, and I will, I will, I will, I 553 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: will wait for it because I do want to hear it. 554 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: All right, everybody. Thanks to Mel for joining us another 555 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: edition of This League Uncut in the books. Please rate, review, subscribe, 556 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Chris and I will be back Monday, and that'll do 557 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: it for us. See you next time. This League Uncut 558 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: is and I Heeart Radio Production