WEBVTT - Episode 5

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<v Speaker 1>Dream Sequence is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Blumhouse Television,

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<v Speaker 1>and Realm.

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<v Speaker 2>I started dreaming about Manifold again. What do you mean again?

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<v Speaker 2>I never told you why I really came home seven

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<v Speaker 2>years ago? Why did you? I? I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Brookdon What the fuck's in Brooklyn? Con kN

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck is CONN?

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<v Speaker 3>What exactly does the Conspiracy Convention have to do with

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<v Speaker 3>dream Sequence?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I asked.

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<v Speaker 3>What does she say?

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<v Speaker 4>Pack your bags whatever? It's probably better than listening to

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<v Speaker 4>nightmares all night. What's your road trip thing?

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<v Speaker 2>You want music? No music? You want to talk? Or

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<v Speaker 2>should I just drive and shut up? How can I

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<v Speaker 2>make this trip as painless for you as possible?

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<v Speaker 3>It's your car, You're the one driving. Let's do your

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<v Speaker 3>road trip thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that. I want a talkie road trip. Then

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<v Speaker 4>I want this to be like the road trip equivalent

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<v Speaker 4>of a slumber party, pillow fight. Honesty and conversation. It's

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite thing. Tell me anything, talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have a fun trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Just arrived in Brockton. The hotel's about a mile away.

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<v Speaker 4>You know when a city gets fire bombed and there's

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<v Speaker 4>all those sad photos of people taking tub baths on

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<v Speaker 4>top of rubble.

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<v Speaker 2>For some reason, this city is not that. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little too close.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so mean.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, it was. I take it all back. I

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<v Speaker 4>love Brockton. I want to move here.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that guy wearing a shirt saying the Earth is flat?

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<v Speaker 4>It's con con, baby. You gotta get your concon speared on.

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<v Speaker 4>And up is down, black is white, people are lizards.

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<v Speaker 3>Earth being flat isn't a conspiracy theory, though, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>dumb that one's provable and well documented.

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<v Speaker 4>Morgan, no offense, But if you think too hard about

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<v Speaker 4>some of what you're about to hear, it's gouldn't be

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<v Speaker 4>the very long weekend for you. I'm k Kraft, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>here with Morgan Beck and Silky Johnny Lamb.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that your real name?

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<v Speaker 5>It is here?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you mean we.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't give out our real names here.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you afraid will happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Remember when we found out the government really was spying

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<v Speaker 5>on us, we're surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I was too young.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember it. I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 5>You know who wasn't people who go to Conkong. There

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<v Speaker 5>was a guy here had been talking about it for years.

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<v Speaker 5>His name is Marin Wade. Guess where he is now?

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<v Speaker 5>Where No one knows? He should have used an alias.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you think lots of history started his conspiracy? Tuskeygee,

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<v Speaker 5>Iran Contra. It's kind of scary to think about, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>What not?

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone here is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister raper White.

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<v Speaker 7>It's mister rapier Wit. Did they misspell it?

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<v Speaker 2>Someone played a prank on you?

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<v Speaker 7>That's not funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me fix your name, Tack.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It brings you to concon.

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<v Speaker 7>The nanobots that are giving us all cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why people have cancer. Nanobots.

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<v Speaker 7>It's obvious if you think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just thought about it, and it still doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem obvious to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have cancer?

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<v Speaker 8>No, because I take a whole medicine designed by me

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<v Speaker 8>to cleanse the body of the nanobots one hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 8>a bottle. If you're interested in Matt dang it painful death,

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<v Speaker 8>the bots come out and your pee no, thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think we can classify mister rapier Wit as

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<v Speaker 4>one of the wrong ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you noticed we're just about the only two women here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>why do.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that is crazy. Shit is kind of more

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<v Speaker 2>of a guy thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to concon. My name is Dellahan. Not really, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. I'm here to talk about

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<v Speaker 6>the events of May seventeen, seven years ago. Does that

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<v Speaker 6>date mean anything to anybody? Yes, you in the back.

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<v Speaker 8>My daughter died that night, she was thirteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for sharing anyone else? Yeah, my brother had

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<v Speaker 6>a nightmare so traumatic he never fully recovered. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>I lost my wife that day. What happened that night?

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<v Speaker 6>How come some people were attacked in their sleep and

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<v Speaker 6>some people slept fine? Why did some people die and

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<v Speaker 6>some didn't. I'm not here to give you answers to

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<v Speaker 6>those questions because I don't have them. I wish I did.

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<v Speaker 6>All I can tell you is something happened, something strange

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<v Speaker 6>and for some fatal.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is Morgan. She's an engineer on the team

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<v Speaker 2>i'm documenting.

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<v Speaker 6>So this is for your podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not working on that at the moment. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>working on this new thing and I'm not entirely sure

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<v Speaker 4>what it's going to be yet, and it might not

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<v Speaker 4>even be public for another decade.

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<v Speaker 6>And it doesn't matter. I still like the attention.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do I mean, like, besides con.

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<v Speaker 6>Con, I'm a librarian by day and a crazy newspaper

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<v Speaker 6>clippings and strings around the room guy by night.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. So May seventeenth, your wife died.

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<v Speaker 6>Her official cause of death was a heart attack. She

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<v Speaker 6>was twenty five, she was healthy, she had no pre

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<v Speaker 6>existing conditions. The doctors couldn't give me anything close to

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<v Speaker 6>an explanation. I joined a grief support group where I

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<v Speaker 6>met a widow. Her husband also died in a sleep

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<v Speaker 6>from a mysterious heart attack on the same night. I

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<v Speaker 6>started looking into it further, found even more similar stories,

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<v Speaker 6>and now here I am at concon.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say we're trying to classify conspiracies. In one sentence,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you.

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<v Speaker 6>Believe something's alive in our dreams?

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<v Speaker 2>Bold claim? Not the first time I've heard it.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't come into the concon phase of my life quietly.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the something?

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<v Speaker 6>What is it? I can't tell you what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>All I can tell you is what it does. It

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<v Speaker 6>can give you vivid nightmares that stay with you in

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<v Speaker 6>the daytime, where you start to crumble mentally because your

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<v Speaker 6>dreams are so real, there's no difference between them and reality.

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<v Speaker 6>That's one thing it can do to you. There have

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<v Speaker 6>been a lot of suicides by people who claim to

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<v Speaker 6>see this figure in their dreams. I think for some

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<v Speaker 6>people it possesses them. I mean possessed as a charged word.

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<v Speaker 6>But when you go to sleep, you lose control of

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<v Speaker 6>your body, and this thing can make people do and

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<v Speaker 6>say things that they just wouldn't do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just a neurological disorder. The reason we don't move

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<v Speaker 3>in our sleep is at the ponds and medulla are

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<v Speaker 3>sending signals to our muscles, telling them to relax. If

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<v Speaker 3>those signals aren't sent, we act out our dreams.

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<v Speaker 6>But what if there was something that could cause that

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<v Speaker 6>neurological disorder? And how do you know so much about sleep?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you're an engineer, an engineer specializing and equipment

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<v Speaker 3>related to sleep disorders.

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<v Speaker 2>What else?

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously it can kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I just don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, maybe you would if you'd been through it. I'd

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<v Speaker 6>been through.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents died that night. I have grief credentials too,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what you mean.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait, your parents died that night, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of some entity in their sleep.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you know that? Yes, were you there when it happened? Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>a moment of death. No, And how do you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of the coroner's report that did not list cause

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<v Speaker 4>of death as mysterious entity?

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<v Speaker 6>But how well do you really remember the whole thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Not well?

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<v Speaker 4>Because my sister drugged me and my parents until we

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<v Speaker 4>were all losing our minds.

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<v Speaker 6>So do emoxy bate nevoxen. How'd you know that she's

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<v Speaker 6>trying to save you from it?

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<v Speaker 4>You can't play god with people's lives just because you're

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<v Speaker 4>the smartest person in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Two out of three of us dying kind of proves

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<v Speaker 2>my points.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot happened that night sounds to me like your

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<v Speaker 6>sister was ahead of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you understand why I'm anoyed right now?

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<v Speaker 6>Can you keep a secret? Who the fuck of these guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait?

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<v Speaker 6>Give them your gunkin names?

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<v Speaker 3>Moreanism, the Morganism, Rip Fan Single, and this gentleman is stabber.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't worry, he assured me his nickname was not based

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<v Speaker 6>on any past grind I said, it wasn't based on

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<v Speaker 6>any past conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a very important and distressing distinction.

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<v Speaker 6>Just don't stab anybody, all right? Everyone here is cool.

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<v Speaker 6>We're all cool. Morganism and Rip Van Single are sleep experts.

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<v Speaker 6>They'll know more than I do. Tell them what you

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<v Speaker 6>told me there, Ci, it's your ass. My wife was

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<v Speaker 6>having these nightmares and she was talking about a forest,

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<v Speaker 6>and then she fell asleep and I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 6>to wake her up two days.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you taken her to a hospital now?

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<v Speaker 6>Because she said if something like this happened, fine, ulla hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mind if I checking pulse? Does your wife

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<v Speaker 3>exercise regularly?

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<v Speaker 6>Does she look like she does?

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<v Speaker 3>Her resting heartbeat is below sixty Lifting eyelids in rem

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<v Speaker 3>likely dreaming. People's aren't dilated, indicating no presence of drugs.

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<v Speaker 3>No response to external auditory stimuli. Giving a pinch now

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<v Speaker 3>a hard pinch, a very hard pinch, no response to

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<v Speaker 3>pain stimuli. This is in a deep sleep. It's a coma.

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<v Speaker 6>So what do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>The fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>Has she been talking?

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<v Speaker 6>Nah? What does she say?

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<v Speaker 2>My name? He didn't say rit Vance, my real name.

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<v Speaker 6>She might just be saying the letter or trying to

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<v Speaker 6>say okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really. This is the part where you get skeptical.

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<v Speaker 3>People in comas don't speak, But you said it. I

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<v Speaker 3>know what I said. It's not a deep sleep. It

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<v Speaker 3>must not be a coma either.

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<v Speaker 6>Then what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Argon all right, this is getting a little too creepy

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<v Speaker 4>for my daste.

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<v Speaker 3>She shouldn't know where in the room. She didn't respond

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<v Speaker 3>to any stimuli to day.

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<v Speaker 6>What is she talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Your mother's forgotten you, and she won't

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<v Speaker 2>remember you again.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should leave, did Sadie?

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<v Speaker 4>Will you up to this?

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know that guy before today? You think I

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<v Speaker 6>want to spend any more time with a guy named

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<v Speaker 6>Stabber than I need to.

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<v Speaker 3>He couldn't fake this?

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<v Speaker 2>What then?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting a fucking drink, surprised of sitting next to me,

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<v Speaker 4>not offended.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't want to pay it, record away. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your name? Roach?

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<v Speaker 4>Of all the names, everyone else picks school name, so

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<v Speaker 4>I picked a gross one.

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<v Speaker 2>I respect that. Do you have a podcast, don't we all?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of the one that blew up a few

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<v Speaker 2>months ago.

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<v Speaker 6>It has scrabble and then you have to tell a

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<v Speaker 6>story about your life that revolves around the word you play.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're scoring, the round is worse. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to take sip. You're thinking of Gwen Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not Gwen Gabbs.

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<v Speaker 2>I was Queen.

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<v Speaker 4>Gibbs before Gwen Gibbs. Was Gwen Gibbs that scrabble show

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<v Speaker 4>you're talking about. I did it three years before she did.

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<v Speaker 4>Long story, whatever doesn't matter. Luckily, I'm working on bigger

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<v Speaker 4>things than a scrabble show now.

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<v Speaker 6>So what brings you here?

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<v Speaker 2>My sister? Where's your sister? Are you a reporter or something?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you from Knicks Tech? What?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw a girl alone and thought we could

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy a drink and have a nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Normal chat.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. You're certainly making it.

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<v Speaker 7>Difficult, but I think we can get past that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in my seat, all right, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn. Didn't know you had that in you.

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<v Speaker 3>You would have done the same for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but in more of a beta way.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know my mother has Alzheimer's?

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<v Speaker 2>Sadie told me years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>She Sadie promised me she'd cure it. That's why we

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<v Speaker 3>started our business. She's being honest. At the time, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't doubt that. After your parents died, she told me

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<v Speaker 3>we needed to change our focus to sleep disorders. She

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<v Speaker 3>told me this was where the greatest good was. I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like she was doing me to end up like

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<v Speaker 3>my mother. Hey, there you are, and need you both listen.

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<v Speaker 6>To me very carefully and do exactly what I say.

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<v Speaker 6>Excuse me, get off the stool and follow me to

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<v Speaker 6>the parking lot. I'm not being a creep. Distress me.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 7>What was that?

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you when the parking lot, come on?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell was that?

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<v Speaker 6>After you two left, I went back in the stabbers's

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<v Speaker 6>room and mid sentence, his eyes closed and he just

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<v Speaker 6>fell down asleep, just like that. And then he said,

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<v Speaker 6>you better run. George that's my real name. Someone saw

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<v Speaker 6>me leave his room too. You didn't do anything, I know,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's fucking con con People saw you with me

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<v Speaker 6>earlier too. I think it is best if we all

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<v Speaker 6>just get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine with me? This town is truly a shithole.

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<v Speaker 6>Year take this. It has all my research, Red fan single,

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<v Speaker 6>it was a pleasure. And let me be straight up

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<v Speaker 6>with you. I think you're very attractive. I think you're

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<v Speaker 6>very smart. I want to know more about you. This

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<v Speaker 6>isn't a sex thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you fucking serious right now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, you're right. Let's get going. Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Your wife must have been a lovely person. She was,

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<v Speaker 2>she really was. You went through all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I lied to you when I said I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know what Stabber's wife was talking about when she said,

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<v Speaker 4>listen to the tapes.

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<v Speaker 2>I've kept them for seven years. I have to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>What face the fire?

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<v Speaker 3>Mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Check out? What said? He got me? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're being recorded? I think I'm really happy to

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<v Speaker 2>have you both home again.

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