WEBVTT - The Richest People in Tech

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Either everyone, I'm Jonathan Strickland and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lauren foc Obama, and I'm here to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>pennies nil times cool and it's dollar hundred dollar bills.

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<v Speaker 1>I am here to really hope that that never happens again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hey, if any of you know what songs that

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<v Speaker 1>comes from, let me know, because it's fairly obscure and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be really impressed. But today we wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some some folks who have made a pretty penny

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<v Speaker 1>or a billion or so uh in in the fields

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<v Speaker 1>of technology or yeah, yeah, more than a billion pennies,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, a bunch at least at least several billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>We took. Yes, this, we're taking a list from the

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<v Speaker 1>top tech Billionaires off of Forbes list, which they published

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much on a yearly basis, so this is probably

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<v Speaker 1>tween list of tech billionaires. We kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about who these people are and what they've done

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of get to where they're going, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some little trivia facts about yeah, a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a profile, just to see, you know, because these these

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<v Speaker 1>are the people that are running all of the businesses

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<v Speaker 1>that are creating all of the cool stuff that we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about basically, And so there's some of them are

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<v Speaker 1>who are working for the same company. There's three from

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<v Speaker 1>one company in fact that rhymes with Schmoogle spoiler alert. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, we're going to talk about the folks that

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<v Speaker 1>are on this list, and uh, and keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is this is like the people who

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<v Speaker 1>have the most money. It does not necessarily mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>the most influential because at least a couple of them

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<v Speaker 1>are for the most part retired, right, right. And and

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<v Speaker 1>also it doesn't necessarily mean that they have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that kind of Scrooge McDuck giant swimming pool of

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<v Speaker 1>gold coins. It's mostly wrapped up in stock options, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, but nonetheless, right, they may not have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of liquid at assets compared to what they

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<v Speaker 1>have in investments, but hey, you know, I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're not They're not hurting, probably not making

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<v Speaker 1>They could probably afford a nice ice cream cone on

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<v Speaker 1>a warm summer's day. So let's let's talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>of them. So, coming in at number fifteen is James Goodnight,

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<v Speaker 1>who has probably the most awesome name. He's I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a PhD. So it's doctor good Night,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Goodnight. That is amazing. I did not think about

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<v Speaker 1>that until you said it. Dr Goodnight is awesome. Well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Goodnight is worth, according to Forbes, about seven point

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<v Speaker 1>seven billion dollars. And and and this this is the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the bottom of our list. So yeah, we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going from number fifteen down to number one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a countdown. You can actually all play along at home

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<v Speaker 1>if you like and place bets on who you think

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<v Speaker 1>is in the top five. Well, we'll try not to

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<v Speaker 1>give any spoilers. No, but we already said that three

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<v Speaker 1>of them are from the same company. So as as

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<v Speaker 1>we get down, you're gonna be thinking, huh, alright, which

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of a couple of names that haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been mentioned yet. All right, Well, what good Night did

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<v Speaker 1>was he co founded a company called S a S

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<v Speaker 1>with John Saul's back in nineteen seventy six. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a business analytics software company. Yeah, and originally it

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<v Speaker 1>was part of a research project. You see. Uh, James

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<v Speaker 1>good Night grew up in North Carolina, so he's a

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor of mine as far as I'm concerned. I'm born

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<v Speaker 1>in Georgia, so I consider folks from North Carolina my neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>And he began to work with computers back when he

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<v Speaker 1>was a sophomore at North Carolina State University. So he

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<v Speaker 1>graduated with eventually with a pH d in statistics. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's seventy right now. If that gives you an

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<v Speaker 1>idea of what kind of era he was working in computers.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was working in computers, it was before computers

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<v Speaker 1>were really I think people worked on. Yeah, there certainly

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<v Speaker 1>were no personal computers at the time where he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting into them, he didn't find He and John Stiles

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<v Speaker 1>founded the company in nineteen seventy six, that's us when

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<v Speaker 1>personal computers were barely getting their start. So he uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he had helped design some equipment for ground stations to

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<v Speaker 1>communicate with the Apollo missions, which is awesome, pretty amazing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So he then joined the faculty of North Carolina State

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<v Speaker 1>and while he was a faculty member there, he began

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<v Speaker 1>to work on this project, which was called a Statistical

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<v Speaker 1>analysis system or s A S. I was for agricultural

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<v Speaker 1>research actually to crunch some of that data exactly statistically

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<v Speaker 1>analyzing the information coming back from an agricultural project. And

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<v Speaker 1>he realized that there was a broader application for this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of statistical model for lots of different industries. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's when he and Saul's got together and UH

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<v Speaker 1>and founded s A S and UH. He led the

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<v Speaker 1>company to grow every single year. And he's been the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO for essentially thirty five years now, and every year

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<v Speaker 1>he's been CEO, the company has grown. And perhaps the

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<v Speaker 1>most remarkable thing, I think, according to to what I read,

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<v Speaker 1>the company has never laid off a single employee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're supposedly completely excellent to work for. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are number two behind all companies aside from Google.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh in like employee satisfaction. It's it's pretty amazing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that someone hasn't been fired from that company,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one has been No one's job has been

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<v Speaker 1>eliminated due to like cutbacks or something, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're talking thirty five years, that's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and UH And there have been books written about his

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<v Speaker 1>management style. He's he's often shown as sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>an example to folks about how to manage a company.

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard that he kind of developed his philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>while he was working on these ground systems for NASA

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<v Speaker 1>because those projects had a lot of turnover, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, he was like, this is not the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to get anything done. It's just because you have to.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to ramp people up as they come into

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<v Speaker 1>replace people. You're set back when someone leaves share. So

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<v Speaker 1>I spend a lot of time just revving and spinning wheels. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's you know, it's one of those companies

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<v Speaker 1>that Adam has all kinds of services on its campuses

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<v Speaker 1>and and lots of educational support and snacks in the

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<v Speaker 1>break room, you know. And uh, from a from a

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<v Speaker 1>personal standpoint, he met his wife and while he was

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<v Speaker 1>a senior at at North Carolina State and she was

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<v Speaker 1>attending Meredith College. And they have three kids. So you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta think, you know, a kid of a billionaire. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these billionaires were gonna be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Another interesting thing I found out about a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them is that many of them are philanthropists. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are philanthropists to such an extreme as to it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they plan on giving away a large amount

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<v Speaker 1>of their wealth before they pass on, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there. There's actually a fairly common thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard among a lot of these people who have

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<v Speaker 1>said they want to make sure that their their kids

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<v Speaker 1>understand the value of hard work and the responsibility and

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<v Speaker 1>not just coast along on the accomplishments of the parents.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, Since so many of these people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>worked themselves with the ground up, they kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>that that was a good life lesson. Yeah. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>few of them had somewhat privileged upbringings, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them actually came from from pretty humble beginnings and

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<v Speaker 1>had worked their way up to uh, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>just not just the top of their their company, but

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the financial industry. So let's move on

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<v Speaker 1>to number fourteen. This is our first Schmoogle person, as

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<v Speaker 1>I recall, that's uh Eric Schmidt. Yes, yes, he was

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<v Speaker 1>worth a reported eight point two billion in net yep

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<v Speaker 1>and he was he used to be the CEO for Google.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the CEO for Google for several years. He's

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<v Speaker 1>currently the executive chairman and uh international ambassador. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a honorary title. He actually, well not just honorary,

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<v Speaker 1>because he went to North Korea. Yeah, he just went

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<v Speaker 1>with that with his daughter and um Bill Richardson to

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<v Speaker 1>to the leaders of North Korea about opening up internet channels. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently, uh, some of those talks actually started to

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<v Speaker 1>see some some results. Apparently, Uh, North Korea began to

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<v Speaker 1>allow foreign visitors more access to things like WiFi, and

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<v Speaker 1>some folks are saying it's a direct result of Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Schmidt's visible Uh that being said, as we're recording this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a kerfuffle in the North Korea area, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I would imagine some of those issues are becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more complicated at the moment, as as they

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<v Speaker 1>tend to do when nuclear warheads are involved. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I always heard of Eric Schmidt as the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Google and being like a kind of this

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<v Speaker 1>shrewd businessman. I did not realize because I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>just never had looked into his background very much. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that he has a background not just in business,

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<v Speaker 1>but in actual programming. Yeah, he got his engineering degree

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<v Speaker 1>than a PhD in computer science. I think he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He was brought on to Google back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>one as the chief executive to bring a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more business experience into the next right. He had been

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of Novelle before that, and but he he

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<v Speaker 1>had actually co authored the lex analysis software program for

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<v Speaker 1>Unix and uh, and so yeah, he's he's also he's

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<v Speaker 1>our second PhD. Um and uh he got that University

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<v Speaker 1>of California while he was actually working on another project there.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's working on a project at the University of

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<v Speaker 1>California and pursues a PhD at the same time. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>he was at one point the technology advisor to President Obama. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also at one point on the board of

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<v Speaker 1>directors for Apple. He did resign from that position after

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<v Speaker 1>it was sort of like there was some tensions between

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<v Speaker 1>Google and Apple, mainly stemming from iOS versus Android. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was called iOS at the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because because he joined up. But in two thousand six, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then when when everything is kind of golden

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<v Speaker 1>and people were going like our Google and Apple going

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<v Speaker 1>to make beautiful babies together, and then they were like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not that they both had they both had babies,

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<v Speaker 1>and they both thought their baby was the most beauty baby.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they tried to fight them. Pokemon right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you just gave me a great business idea that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to pursue after this podcast. Bat Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get away Vocabama. Uh yeah. So he he was

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<v Speaker 1>on the board of directors for Apple for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>He stepped down. There were there was some mounting tensions

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<v Speaker 1>between the two companies, and it was pretty clear that

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be difficult to maintain a advisory

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<v Speaker 1>position at one company when York, the company you are

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of, is seen as an increasingly as a competitor.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was considered a conflict of interest, and he

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<v Speaker 1>stepped down. He married a woman by the name of

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<v Speaker 1>Windy Boyle and had two children with her, but they

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<v Speaker 1>separated in two thousand eleven, and now he's dating a

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<v Speaker 1>concert pianist. I think one really interesting thing about a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of these big, big names is that technically their

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<v Speaker 1>salaries are are practically nothing. In in Eric Schmidt's case,

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<v Speaker 1>as of two thousand eight, anyway, his salary was technically

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<v Speaker 1>one dollar per year. And you know, all of his

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<v Speaker 1>fortune is is wrapped up in all of these stock options. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you usually end up getting the majority of your compensation

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<v Speaker 1>ends up coming in the form of of stocks and

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<v Speaker 1>other investments. Uh, which which which is fair? When you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's you go from a stock value of eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars to over six hundred and three years, it

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<v Speaker 1>does suggest that that that you might have made one

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<v Speaker 1>or two good calls right in your time, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>when you're the one who who created the launch of

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<v Speaker 1>those stock options. That, yeah, that speaks well for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost certain that taxes have something to do with

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<v Speaker 1>that one dollar salary, but since I'm nowhere near a billionaire,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know for sure. Uh. Let's move down to

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<v Speaker 1>the next person, number thirteen. Now here's the first person

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<v Speaker 1>whose name I'm going to butcher. It's Pierre Amadyar, who

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<v Speaker 1>is worth eight point seven billion dollars. He's better known

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<v Speaker 1>as the founder of eBay. And of course, eBay is

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<v Speaker 1>that auction site that did really really well. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was it exploded on the internet when it shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after debut. I think it debuted in in like ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty early. Yeah, eBay launched in and it

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<v Speaker 1>did it. Of course, was one of those companies that

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<v Speaker 1>gave a lot of other people the idea that the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet was a place to make your fortune. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, how could you deny it? I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>this this one idea was doing incredibly well, and it

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<v Speaker 1>made Pierre Almadyar a billionaire overnight when over afternoon, over

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon afternoon in fact, yeah, in the middle of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>He became a billionaire when they held the initial public

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<v Speaker 1>offering for eBay. Yeah, so three years after he launches,

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes a billionaire because is of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the interest in this company. So again that's before the

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<v Speaker 1>dot com bubble bursts. So I eBay had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the right parts in place to survive the dot

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<v Speaker 1>com bubble. But it also I think helped create the

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<v Speaker 1>dot com bubble in a way because all these other

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<v Speaker 1>people said that was possible. Why can't my idea. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bandwagoning that happened, and and at a

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<v Speaker 1>certain point, you know, yeah, you can't support hence bubble. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he was born in France, uh, and he now

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<v Speaker 1>makes his home in America. He is his parents were Iranian,

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<v Speaker 1>still are I megin He's only forty five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty five years old, and he's given away a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his wealth already. He is known as a philanthropist,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's one of the people who signed something called

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<v Speaker 1>the Giving Pledge. The Giving Pledge was something proposed by

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<v Speaker 1>the number one entry on our lists. That's something for

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<v Speaker 1>you to listen for when we get there. It was

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<v Speaker 1>co pledged by um CO, co created by Warren Buffett. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Buffett was one of the creators of the Giving Pledge.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one is the number one on our list.

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Mefett is not the number one in tech and no,

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Buffett does not does not. He does not appear

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<v Speaker 1>on this list as he is not one of the

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<v Speaker 1>tech guys. But he also created a philanthropic investment firm

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<v Speaker 1>called the Amadyar Network. And this is also not unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>There's several people on this list who have created uh

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<v Speaker 1>foundations that are actually investment firms because what they do

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<v Speaker 1>is they were given a certain amount of grant money

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<v Speaker 1>to start and then they invest that money and then

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<v Speaker 1>from the returns on those investments, they fund various charitable efforts.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So. He graduated with a degree in computer science

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<v Speaker 1>from Tufts University and for a while before he founded eBay,

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<v Speaker 1>he worked for a subsidiary of a little company called

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Computer the subsidiaries called Clariss and that's when he

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<v Speaker 1>then went on to co found a company called Ink Development,

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<v Speaker 1>which was originally pin based computers, So any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>computer that would have a pen based operating the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you would use, that's what he originally went into.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually became a shop which was an e commerce site,

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<v Speaker 1>and then from that he got the idea for eBay.

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<v Speaker 1>H I think was auction web. The first thing that

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<v Speaker 1>he technically sold was a broken laser pointer. Yeah, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>That just makes me think of the weird al song

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<v Speaker 1>about I bought it on eBay. Uh and Uh and

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<v Speaker 1>Almady are married Pamela care Almadyar who supposedly had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge Pezz Dispenser collection, and that that is this is

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<v Speaker 1>part of why he decided to found eBay because of

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<v Speaker 1>his wife's Peest Dispenser Wow collection. I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always amazing to me to hear the the what

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<v Speaker 1>was the gene? All right? Number twelve? Oh, here we

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<v Speaker 1>go with a German uh Entry Hasso Plotner, who was

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<v Speaker 1>worth eight point nine billion dollars a going to Forbes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is the co founder of German software company

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<v Speaker 1>s A. P, s A P, A G and U.

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<v Speaker 1>S A P stands for system analysis and program development

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<v Speaker 1>or if I'm going to butcher my German system and

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<v Speaker 1>system analyze on programmed vic lunk, that's I thought, Thrish.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that I can pronounce in German is

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<v Speaker 1>my own last name, So that's that's fair. I got

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<v Speaker 1>my German is terrible. Uh. He he founded this company

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<v Speaker 1>along with four other former IBM colleagues. So he used

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<v Speaker 1>to work for IBM along with these other four gentlemen

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<v Speaker 1>and um and they they founded this and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a company that made enterprise software. Now that means that

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<v Speaker 1>they made software for other companies. It wasn't software for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you to bring home and install in your

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<v Speaker 1>personal computer. This is something that large companies would use.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the case of of S A P, it

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<v Speaker 1>was software that's designed to manage business operations and customer relations.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, this is not something that would appeal

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<v Speaker 1>to small businesses. That was meant for big, big, big,

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<v Speaker 1>big big here. Yeah, there's a lot of database kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crunching going on in the process, but that means,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, big companies mean big customers. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that a lot of other companies

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<v Speaker 1>have looked into. You know, some of the names we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be talking about will be familiar to you, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not as a customer, like a direct customer, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather that you know of, you know the name, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if you work for a big company and work

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<v Speaker 1>with those those products, you know the name of, you

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<v Speaker 1>know some of the software. But you know, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>against on your computer at home, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>have this kind of stuff installed. But um yeah yeah

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<v Speaker 1>he he um co founded this back in two He's

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<v Speaker 1>he's sixty nine as of right now. Yep, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>he uh he. He has an interest in lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different things, including yachting and UH. And his interest in yachting,

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<v Speaker 1>he has seen himself compete head to head against another

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<v Speaker 1>person who will appear on our list further down. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and spoil it because it's too funny and

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<v Speaker 1>I will never remember by the time we get down

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<v Speaker 1>to this. Fellow Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle, So Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Elson very well known for his yachting uh interests and

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<v Speaker 1>UH and how so Platinum have had so they've both

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<v Speaker 1>participated in yachting events where their individual yachts went directly

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<v Speaker 1>head to head against each other, and apparently there have

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<v Speaker 1>been words exchanged battle yachts, some in German battle battle

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<v Speaker 1>yachts driven by babies. All right, we're getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>too far. That's that's maybe like after season four or

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<v Speaker 1>five and things are starting to peter off, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce a new twist. But yeah, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of interesting that these guys and I got

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<v Speaker 1>really snarky in my notes, didn't. I said, it shows

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<v Speaker 1>that the CEO still know how to have fun, just

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<v Speaker 1>like the rest of us common folk. Uh. He has

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<v Speaker 1>also Plattner has also supported philanthropic efforts. In his case,

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<v Speaker 1>he has spent a lot of money UM to support

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<v Speaker 1>efforts in South Africa to combat AIDS and the AIDS

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<v Speaker 1>crisis there, along with other charitable efforts. Not just not

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<v Speaker 1>just that one UM and he is married and has

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<v Speaker 1>two kids. Alright, moving up to number eleven. Now, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you take this one. Not because because

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<v Speaker 1>she's the woman. What do I get that? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what you're getting at, Lauren, because we

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<v Speaker 1>share the same name. That's why do you know? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it pronounced Lauren and I believe. So, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Powell Jobs worth a net ten point seven billion um.

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<v Speaker 1>She is she is the wealthiest woman in tech in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is this is um Steve Jobs widow, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>who we are talking about. So um she she most

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<v Speaker 1>of her wealth comes from the fact that she owns

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<v Speaker 1>seven point three percent of a little entertainment company you

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<v Speaker 1>may have heard about, Disney, yep, seven point of Disney.

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<v Speaker 1>That that translates to about six point nine billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>worth of shares. Yeah, and this is through the trust

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<v Speaker 1>that Steve Jobs left to her when he passed away. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's also I mean, you know, it's not she

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<v Speaker 1>has inherited quite a bit from Steve Jobs, but she

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<v Speaker 1>herself has been very instrumental in several different companies. Oh. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's only forty nine years old. She's um. She's

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<v Speaker 1>got a few degrees in business and um. Unlike Jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>she stuck with her her studies. But he met her

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<v Speaker 1>when she was in college, I believe, and so at

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<v Speaker 1>the at Stanford University. And she is the co founder

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<v Speaker 1>and president of the board of for College Track and

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<v Speaker 1>College Track as an after school program that's designed to

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<v Speaker 1>help high school students uh study and and excel and

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<v Speaker 1>also to succeed in college and uh and her interest

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<v Speaker 1>in education goes well beyond that, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this makes sense too because Steve Jobs very much interested

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<v Speaker 1>in education when he was the head of the Next

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<v Speaker 1>Computer back back when Steve Jobs uh initially left Apple

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<v Speaker 1>or was fired from Apple, it depends on your point

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<v Speaker 1>of view. When he left, he founded a new company

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<v Speaker 1>called Next Computers, and it was really for to make

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<v Speaker 1>an educational computer, like a computer for education systems for students. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he was called back to save Apple when

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<v Speaker 1>it was on the brink of bankruptcy and he uh

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<v Speaker 1>he never really lost his his passion for education, but

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<v Speaker 1>he definitely had a lot more on his play at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. Well. She has dedicated much of her life

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<v Speaker 1>to working on ways to improve education and to give

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<v Speaker 1>students tools that they could use to improve themselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>she also co founded tera Vera, which is a natural

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<v Speaker 1>foods company. She served on the board of directors for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of other companies like Achieva, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>company that makes study tools for students. Again and um.

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<v Speaker 1>She was appointed in to be part of the White

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<v Speaker 1>House Council for Community Solutions. She was appointed by President

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama himself. Um, and yeah, she received an NBA

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<v Speaker 1>from Stanford in n and married Steve Jobs that same

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<v Speaker 1>year and they had three kids together. Right, lately, she's

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<v Speaker 1>been really into promoting the Dream Act, which is the Development,

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<v Speaker 1>Relief and Education for Alien Miners Act. It's failed to

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<v Speaker 1>pass through Congress a couple of times now, but it

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<v Speaker 1>would give undocumented US citizens, undocumented US citizens, undocumented US

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<v Speaker 1>youth a chance to gain citizenship by um, either joining

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<v Speaker 1>the Armed services or going to college. Yeah. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>being that these are people who are going to UH

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<v Speaker 1>to contribute positively to society, and therefore society should extend

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<v Speaker 1>to them the opportunity opportunity, especially if they came here

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<v Speaker 1>before they were fifteen. And you know that's because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not at that point, that's not their fault, so right,

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<v Speaker 1>and beyond that, just the idea of for the United

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<v Speaker 1>States to succeed, we have to encourage uh, you know, excellence,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, this is one way of doing it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting. Well, that's that's our first batch of five.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break to thank our sponsored all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to talking about some of these, uh

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<v Speaker 1>these really influential billionaires in technology. So at number ten

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<v Speaker 1>we have a Zeem Premg who is worth about eleven

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<v Speaker 1>point two billion dollars and he's an Indian businessman who's

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<v Speaker 1>the chairman of white Pro Limited, which is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those companies that started doing one thing and then dramatically

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<v Speaker 1>changed its focus. I know, I know currently they do

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<v Speaker 1>they work with outsourcing. Yes, it started out making vegetable oil.

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<v Speaker 1>Vegetable oil, that is that is a jump. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>started making vegetable oil for for Indian food and then, um,

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it eventually began to diversify. It started making hydrogen atdive, fats,

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>toy the trees, soaps, lighting products, hydraulics. It is, it

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<v Speaker 1>is still diversifying right now. I'm it's well, the the

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<v Speaker 1>entire outsourcing industry is getting pretty tough right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they're they just spun off its consumer products arm

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<v Speaker 1>into why Pro Enterprises and bought a skincare firm in December. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is, um, this is one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where if you were to have the you've heard of

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator's speech right when you you are in an

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<v Speaker 1>elevator with someone else and they asked you what you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have like a way of summing up

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<v Speaker 1>what you do in just about fifteen seconds, that that

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>explains accurately what you do. I bet this guy has

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time doing that. Um, especially since he's considered

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<v Speaker 1>Asia's most generous person. He has donated a two point

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<v Speaker 1>three billion and shares a why pro to his educational

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<v Speaker 1>foundation in February after signing that that Buffett giving pledge

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Buffet slash somebody someone who could it be? And that

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<v Speaker 1>was on top of two million dollars that he had

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<v Speaker 1>already donated. So again a very generous philanthropist. Uh. And

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>he he actually holds a degree in electrical engineering from

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Stanford University. UM. And he's married to Yasmine prim g

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<v Speaker 1>and they have two children. Alright, so let's move on

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<v Speaker 1>to number nine. Now, this is kind of interesting number nine.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy who has been on this list

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<v Speaker 1>several times and has a seeing his his ranking changed

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty dramatically year over year. Uh. We expect to see

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that happen a lot now because the company he founded

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>had an initial public offering last year back in two

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand twelve and his personal value hinges directly upon the

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.200
<v Speaker 1>stock price of his company. We are, of course talking

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>about Mark Zuckerberg, founder of Facebook. Yes, he is worth

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a net thirteen point three billion. He is also only

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight years old, which somehow had escaped me up

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 1>until I was researching this article, and that was that

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>was what hurts it. Really, it really does. Uh. I

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>am nearly a decade older than Zuckerberg, and I haven't

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>seen my first billion yet. But then I haven't founded

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>a company that has over one billion active users either,

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>so I can't really complain, I guess. Yeah, yeah, you

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>haven't been working quite as hard. Yeah. Yeah. Facebook went

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>public last May at a thirty eight dollars per share

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and had fallen to under twenty by August. It's it's

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 1>rebounded about thirty according to Forbes since then. Yeah, this

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is this was one of those you may remember, Chris

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and I did a podcast all about Facebook going public

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and the issues that surrounded it, and part of that

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>was that, um, there was there was a scandal something

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of a scandal anyway, that when the the company, you know,

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>when the actual public offering happened, that Facebook had told

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:54.239
<v Speaker 1>some of its larger shareholders who would have started off

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>right at the very beginning that the company was going

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to be worth less than what they had projected earlier

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in the year, and that that would in turn affect

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the stock price, but the actual stock price itself, the

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>starting stock price didn't change, Okay, so uh so it's

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>like saying that you know, this five dollar uh, this

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>five dollar thing you bought, turns out it's really worth

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 1>more like three dollars fifty cents, but they don't tell

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you that. You go and spend the five dollars and

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>then you go around to you turn around, you decide

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't want you turn around to sell it to

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>someone else, but you can only get three dollars and

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>fifty cents for it. Um. It's an oversimplified way of

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>saying what happened, but that's it's that's essentially what happened.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>And some people or some really some financial institutions knew

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>about this and some didn't, and that caused a bit

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 1>of a scandal. Technically, nothing was illegal, but some people

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>say that it may have been kind so, uh, you

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>know that that was a bit of a black eye.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>And also again because the stock price took a hit,

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Zuckerberg's personal net wealth took a hit. Yeah, but like

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>eight point one billion dollars. Yeah, that's that's a lot

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>of money. He attended Harvard College, but he did not

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>finish matriculating. He dropped out. Um, he created Uh you

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>may remember we've talked about this in the past. He

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>created an application called facemash, which allowed people to vote

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>on the attractiveness of their fellow students and all right, yeah,

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 1>I remember that from from the social network more than

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>anything else. Um, yeah, you know, I mean it was

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>just if you could, you could call it tacky, but

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>we've seen plenty more of those sort of things pop up,

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>mostly from people who voluntarily share their image. Face mash

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>was kind of similar to that. But then he launched

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Facebook in two thousand and four while he was a

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>student at Harvard, and it dropped out to focus primarily

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>upon Facebook, and it got kind of a little popular hit.

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You know again, one billion users, so that was pretty exciting. Uh.

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>He also is one of the people who has signed

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>this giving pledge that we talked about that Buffett and

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>uh came up with, and so he's probably that pledge.

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>By the way, states that the people who signed it

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>are promising essentially to give away at least half of

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>their wealth before. So yeah, he's he's also um glass

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Doors top employee rated CEO. Oh okay, yeah he uh

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>he also I remember back when he was known as

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy who would only eat what he could kill.

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, did you ever read that or hear

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>about that? I heard, I heard a crazy internet rumor

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>about it, but I don't think that I saw it

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>on a reputable source. So I heard about on so

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>many tech podcasts back when that that kind of news

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>story broke. But then in he posted on his Facebook

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>profile that he is now a vegetarian. So maybe he's

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a really bad hunter and he can only catch cucumbers.

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I think only cares would be about my speed personally,

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Mr Zuckerberg. I'm just joshing, Please don't hunt me. Um

0:29:56.320 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>he got married in to Priscilla Chan and and uh

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>so yeah he's. Um, he's he's doing pretty well for himself,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>not too bad that despite that one point year old

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and ranked number nine in tech billion. Well last year

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>he was six, So really he should he should feel bad.

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>He's bad, and he should feel bad, right exactly just

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like I do every day. Number eight Paul Allen Allen

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>worth in that fifteen billion. He's one of the co

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>founders of Microsoft, the other one being well, you know, anyway,

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.479
<v Speaker 1>so he co founded Microsoft. He made a lot of

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>his current wealth in real estate. Yeah, Vulcan real Estate.

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>It's the name of his company, Vulcan Incorporate. Yeah, which

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>also manages his philanthropic efforts, because, like several the other

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>billionaires on this list, he is a philanthropist. He is

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>also another dropout. He went to Washington State University but

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>dropped out after two years to start working in Honeywell

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>in Boston. Um. And he owns a couple of sports teams, right, yeah,

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the Seattle Seahawks and the Portland's Trailblazers. Yeah, it's a

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a football game and our football game football team,

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and the basketball team. I'm not big on the sports,

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>as it turns out. Yeah, yeah, we neither of us,

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I think, are really really only to two sports I

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>follow in either of them are football or basketball. Just

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>baseball and hockey. And I don't follow hockey anymore because

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say pro wrestling, that's not sport, that

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>sports entertainment alright, Um, but anyway, Paul Ellen lately has

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>been selling off a lot of his shares of Microsoft

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and starting to UM invest and diversify in a bunch

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of other stuff. UM. And he's he's also he lost

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>his mother recently to Alzheimer's and related complications and has

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>been UM really active in brain research. UM donated five

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred million to the Allen Institute for Brain Science. Yeah,

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>he's he's made some substantial contributions financial contributions to lots

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of different nonprofit organizations. UM. He also just another here's

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a little trip you for you. When he took the

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>S A T S he got a perfect score. Perfect.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>That was back in both sides. I haven't heard about

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the math, but I hadn't heard about Yeah, back when

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the S S went up to six. Yeah, that was

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>by the way back back in the That's how it

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>was when I took to so back in the day, kids,

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>was the top score you can make and you could

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>not You couldn't fudge that, like that was a perfect score.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, because there are versions of the S A

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>T since then where you could quote unquote hit a

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>perfect score even if you didn't answer all the questions. UM. Also,

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>there was no essay back then. It's just math and

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the math and the words things English. That's it, those

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>word things that we do. Yeah, we do. Anyway, he

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>made a perfect score on that. So yes, smart guy.

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Um he never never married. He is, he's a bachelor.

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>He's had, uh had, just the only bachelor I think

0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>that we have on this list. Is there a call

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong about that. We'll find out when

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we get towards the very bottom. But um, yeah, never married.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Number seven. Interesting guy. Uh, this is a guy that

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I've seen in action on stage in person, and he

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>is a force to be reckoned with. We're talking about

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft. So we just went and chairman. Yes,

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>we just went from the one of the co founders

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of Microsoft to the current CEO. He's worth a net

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>fifteen point two billion. He was born in Detroit and

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>uh he also went to Harvard University, but he finished

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh he like Zuckerberg, he earned a degree in mathematics

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and one in economics. Um. And he met he met

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the the other co founder of Microsoft, Bill Gates.

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>He met him back in college, right, yeah, yeah, he

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>he had he had started going to Stanford for a

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>graduate degree. Um. And that was about when Bill Gates

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, Hey, do you want to come work on

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>this crazy project? And he was like, yeah, sure. Yeah.

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>So Bill Gates and Paul Allen had founded uh Microsoft

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. They invite Steve Bomber to come and

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>work for Microsoft. He drops out of grad school at

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Stanford and he becomes the thirtieth employee of Microsoft and

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>was a business manager. His salary was about fifty thousand

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year when he first started, and he had

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>also received a percentage of ownership and Microsoft uh and

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>so when it went public, he held about eight percent

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of the company and since since that time, he sold

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 1>some of that stock off about a little bit about

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>around half of it, a little less than half um

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and in became the executive vice president of sales and Support.

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Then shortly thereafter he became the president of Microsoft. And

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>then when Bill Gates decided to resign to step down

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 1>as CEO. Yeah, so he's he's been he's been working

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>there for a total of thirty three years and it's

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>been CEO for thirteen. Um. He's he's actually a little

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of a of a contentious CEO right now. He

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>only has a forty seven percent approval rating by the

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>employees over at Microsoft, according to glass Door. And um, yeah,

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 1>that the Microsoft stock has been down. It's down like

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 1>like one point three two over last year or over

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 1>the past five years with a seven percent drops it's

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>last year. Yeah, there's been there have been several uh,

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>critical reports about Steve Bomber's performance as CEO and whether

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>or not the company's on the right track. Uh. And

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you know there are people who point out products like

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Windows Vista or Windows eight and saying, you know that

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>this is an indication that perhaps there needs to be

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>someone else leading the way. Um. And also the mobile

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:39.439
<v Speaker 1>performance of Windows versus Apple, and that they said that

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the Microsoft didn't move on that fast enough and they

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>weren't innovators, they were followers. Uh. There are some areas

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of Microsoft that I think you can say pretty strongly

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>are are are doing really well. One of them is

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>something that Lauren and I both enjoy, which is the

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Xbox Console. Um. But you know, there's definitely been a

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of criticism. Uh. Also there's the famous if if

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Chris were here, he would demand that I do this.

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>There was the famous presentation where Steve Bomber got up

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>on stage and started chanting developers, developers, developers, developers, developers,

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and clapping his hands and and moving around like like well,

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>like a crazy person. There's no easy way of saying this.

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>If you've not seen the video, the famous Steve Bomber Developers, developers,

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>developers video, go to YouTube and do a search. You

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>really just have to search for the word developers, and

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>it looks gonna pop up, trust me. So he he's

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>an interesting guy. He married Connie Snyder in nineteen and

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>they have three kids. Uh. And he's only the second

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>person ever in the United States anyway to become a

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>billionaire due to stock options he received as an employee

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of a corporation where he was neither the founder nor

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the relative of a founder. So the very first person

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:58.919
<v Speaker 1>was Roberto Goizetta of Coca Cola. He is he is also,

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and this is going to come back in a minute,

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>leading a group of investors that's trying to buy the

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento Kings, which is a which is a basketball team, um,

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and move them to Seattle, right, So I've heard of basketball.

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. So yeah, interesting guy. And you know, again,

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of debate about his performance about his

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>management style. Um, and I'll be curious to see, like

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 1>the next over the next five years, what happens over

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>at Microsoft. It's it's one of those things where even

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I have some years said I'm surprised that the shareholders

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>haven't made but you know, at the same time, uh,

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Palmer's had decades of experience at that company.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So and you know, I'm not a business person, so

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>for me, for me, it's all like you know, oh, well,

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I could easily see that someone else needs to be right.

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>It's easy for us to sit back here and go like, wow,

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>why are they doing? And then but if you were

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>to put me in charge of that company, we'd be

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>bankrupt in two days, you know, all right? Moving on

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to number six, Jonathan liquified all of our shares too,

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>kit Cats and pulled himself off in the back off

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>butterfinger actually, but yes, yeah, that's that's not a bad guest.

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure would be at least a few kit Cats.

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh good times. It's number six is uh is the

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>co founder of another company or a founder of another company?

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Michael Dell worth a net fifteen point three billion. Dude,

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>He needed lots of dells there he's the founder and

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>CEO of Dell Incorporated, Dell Computers. So that's one of

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 1>those companies that made personal computers a viable business, right right,

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>This was back they founded it. Yeah, yeah, it was

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>while he was attending the University of Texas at Austin,

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.919
<v Speaker 1>which he dropped out of. He's another dropout on our list,

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>and became the youngest CEO to have his company ranked

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 1>in Fortune's Top five corporations. He was only twenty seven

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>at the time that that happened. Uh so, you know, again,

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing and and uh very determined. He became interested

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in investments when he was still a teenager, Like he

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>would take part time jobs, and instead of just you know,

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>putting the money away or or spending it on something frivolous,

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>he was actually investing in things like precious metals and

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>stocks as a team. That's that would probably be why

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>he's worth fifteen point three billion and I'm worth a negative.

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>And I also I also read an interesting story. I

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is true or not, and I'm

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm paraphrasing because I didn't write this down on my notes,

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>but I read a story that he had discovered, um

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>like he had essentially was what amounted to a paper route,

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>where it was really him selling newspapers, selling newspaper subscriptions. Okay,

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>so he's selling newspaper subscriptions, really more of a salesperson

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>for a newspaper. And he noticed a trend, and this

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>is something that he got really good at. It is

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is uh, analyzing systems and seeing how best to work

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>within a system or to manipulate that system, not in

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 1>a bad way, but just the most advantageous way. He

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>started to just that people who were moving into the

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 1>city were more likely to subscribe to a newspaper as

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>part of establishing their new home, and so he began

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to target people he had, like he would get records

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>showing where houses had just been bought, and he would

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>target those as his as his places to sell papers.

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>So he was I think in college at this time,

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it was actually I think it was high

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>school at this time, and if I'm not mistaken, he

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 1>made something like eighteen thousand dollars doing this, which was

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>more than what his teacher was making. Yeah. So, uh

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>so he was putting that kind of brain power to

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>use when he was in the university and he began

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 1>to realize that. He started to to offer to build

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and sell PCs to other students and noticed that this

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 1>was a viable way of making money, and so he

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>became he started a company called PCs Limited that would

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:57.800
<v Speaker 1>eventually become del Incorporated. Uh. He married Susan Lynn Lieberman

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen nine and they have four children together. And

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>they also established the Michael and Susan Dell Foundation, which

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.720
<v Speaker 1>is a philanthropic organization that focuses primarily on child health

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and family economic stability. They are committed to donating a

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred million a year to that. UM. Dell meanwhile, is

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>not doing extraordinarily well these days there. Um uh, their

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>stock is done I think from as a February from

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>last year, and um, Michael Dell has announced that he

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>wants to take Dell private and is trying to strike

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>an agreement with the shareholders right now, who are not

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>really excited about the deal. Yeah. He his plan was

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to buy back all those shares make it a private

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.439
<v Speaker 1>company again, so essentially reversing the I p O. Yeah,

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>for for twenty four point four billion, which the shareholders

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 1>are going like that's what. Yeah, they're saying that's way

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>too that's that's that's undervaluing the company, is their argument,

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>whereas his argument is, if we keep going the way

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>we're going, this company is going to be worthless. So, um,

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting to see how that works out, because

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one of those there are times when

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a company goes public where you realize further down the

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>road that that was that was not a good deal,

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>because again, you have to answer to shareholders. Sometimes that's

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>a great thing. Sometimes it's exactly what a company needs

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 1>to succeed. Other times, like in this case, you can

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>tell that maybe that was the you know, maybe it

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 1>was the right decision at the time, but it's no longer. Yeah, yeah,

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's at this point, you know, it's it's computer

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>industry needs to be nimble, and dealing shareholders is never

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>really a nimble It's pretty hard to reverse that decision

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>once it happens, too. But we'll see if that that

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 1>pans out. Well, we're about to go into our top five.

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Before we do, I'd like to take a quick moment

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>to thank our other sponsor. So we're getting into the

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>top five here. Number five is another person from Schmoogle.

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 1>We can say the name now, it's not. I kind of,

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I kind of can't can't help myself. At this point,

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about sarag A. Brenn, who was one of

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the co founders of Google. Yes, he is worth a

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 1>net twenty two point eight billion, and he's the director

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>of Astural Projects at Google, which means that he gets

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to oversee the super awesome, cool ridiculous stuff like the

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>autonomous cars, Google Glass, Yeah, things, things like that kind

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>of stuff where you know, we've heard rumor that Google

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>might have a smart watch in the works that could

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>have an augmented reality application included in this UM I

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>would imagine that falls under his jurisdiction as a special project.

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.919
<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty clear that sarage Brand wants to become

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a cyborg and rule us all. Uh. He he's a smart,

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>smart guy. His his parents were both from Moscow and

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>right they moved the family to America when he was six, yes,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>six years old. His father was a mathematics professor at

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the University of Moscow and his mother ended up being

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>a researcher for ye NASA. Sorry, sorry I cut off here.

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be it's gonna be smart to you, but

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you d snartified me, that's fine. The listeners wish they

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.919
<v Speaker 1>could do it all the time. Yeah. So the point

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 1>being that his parents wicked smart, like you know, already mathematicians, researchers,

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>really smart people. Um, some of the people on this

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>list we've talked about our folks who you know, they

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>came from maybe not you know, humble beginnings, but not there.

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>The parents were not necessarily like normal people more or less. Yeah, Yeah,

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I mean, you know,

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I personally don't have any parents who have worked for NASA,

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 1>so I'm a little bit impressed when I hear about

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Neither of my parents have worked

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>for NASA either. Um. But yeah, when he was six,

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the family immigrated to the United States. Uh. He received

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>degrees in mathematics and computer science at the University of Maryland,

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and then he went to go do some graduate study

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>research over at the at Stanford University. He wanted to

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>eventually get a PhD. Uh. He's still working toward that.

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.919
<v Speaker 1>His his studies are on indefinite hold right now, so

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 1>technically he hasn't dropped out of grad school right in Stanford.

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't really want to go get on the boot. I

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think, but I mean, you know, all depends. Like

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Stanford's already got that that record of other people who said,

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>can I get a deferment? And they said no, And

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I'm going to become a billionaire. That's happened

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:10.919
<v Speaker 1>a few times. But uh, but so he and when

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I had became a billionaire. But maybe maybe one day

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>he'll end up finishing that work and earning his PhD.

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>He he's only thirty nine, so he's got a minute. Yeah,

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 1>he's got a little while. He also, while at Stanford,

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>met the other co founder of Google, Larry Page, and

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>not that first meeting. Supposedly, Paige and brend were both, um,

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.240
<v Speaker 1>let's call them smart Alex. Okay, so they're both smart Alex.

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>They're both a little snarky and apparently that snarky and

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>snarky when they first met, kind of sparks flew like

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>things were not but but it wasn't necessarily a friendly

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of snark. Yes, supposedly they did not totally get

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>along upon first meeting, but they ended up spending a

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of time together because they were working on the

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>same research project called back rub, which was this project

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to help index the web. They were talking about how

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a link on a web pages kind of like a site,

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like a c I T E site, not sit citation

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>excitation exactly, and that if you were to index all

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of these you could easily navigate around the web. So

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that was the basis of BackRub, which eventually became Google

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And and this has been pages Idea at first, I believe,

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of needed somebody with with a stronger

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>computer background and and mathematical skills. Yes, so Brent came on.

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Brent had already been at Stanford for a while, and

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>in fact, originally Brent had shown Page around for the

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 1>graduate program. That's when they first met, and then he

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>ended up working on pages project. And as they worked

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>together they became they became buddy buddy. They got past

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.879
<v Speaker 1>that initial he's kind of a jerk. That guy's kind

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>of a jerk. Uh. And in two thousand seven, Sarah G. A.

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Brenn married Ann wagis Ki. Together they have two kids

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and um and he's also done a lot of philanthropthropic

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>work himself directly actually for Google dot org, which is

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the philanthropic r of Google. Uh. And it's a division

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that looks at lots of different problems, including ways of

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:12.720
<v Speaker 1>creating clean energy, reducing environmental impact in general, battling climate change.

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>So he's dedicated a lot of his his time and

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>efforts towards these sort of projects too. It's pretty heavy stuff, right,

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>which then leads us nicely into number four, which is

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Larry Page. So the other half of the Google co

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>founder duo. He's he's worth a net twin. Yeah, so

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>point two billion more than uh than Sergey. So I'm

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>sure they lord it over each other whenever they're fortunate.

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 1>They go to when they go to the Billionaire Club

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>and they play I play Monopoly with real cities. Uh.

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna make a joke, but I'm gonna stop

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on that one. So anyway, Yeah, he's actually been the

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 1>acting He's been the CEO for Google since April eleven,

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 1>so Eric Schmidt of course was the former CEO. When

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Schmidt stepped down, they were talking about who was going

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to be the next CEO. Was there going to be

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>an interim CEO? Would they pick someone from outside the company,

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But Larry Page ended up taking that role. And uh,

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>he's originally from Michigan. His parents were both computer science

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>professors at Michigan State University. So again, Larry Page grew

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>up in a household that was already familiar with and

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>interested in the computers, so he picked right up on that. Uh.

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>He attended the University of Michigan and earned a degree

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>in computer engineering, and then he went to Stanford and

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>earned a master's degree in computer science. That's, of course

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.839
<v Speaker 1>we just mentioned where he met Sarah gay Brenn and

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 1>they started working on the BackRub project. Um. He's also

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>an investor in a company that we talked about in

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a recent episode of Tech Stuff, Tesla Tesla Motors. Yep,

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Tesla Motors. Um. I found both him and as I think,

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>are they Okay? I knew that Page was um and

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>he married Lucinda Southworth in two thousand seven and they

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>have one child together. And um, Google is doing incredibly well.

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 1>There's Stacros, which earned Page four billion personally, So don'll

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that'll knock you right up the list pretty quickly. Yeah,

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>he's he's also in the in the top twenty of

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Forbes businesses overall. UM billionaire, right, because this is this

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>is specifically the list we're doing is just the tech folks,

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.760
<v Speaker 1>but obviously there are people who work in their businesses

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>other than technology. I've found one or two. I guess

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I was unaware of this until I just happened to

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>read the wrong link on a while I was researching,

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.959
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and my heart shrunk three sizes that day.

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Sad story number three. Moving on, Jeff Bezos worth a

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>net five point two billion, and he, of course is

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the founder of Amazon. Yeah, and we've talked about Bezos

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit when we did our Amazon two parter

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 1>two part. Keep talking about doing the third part, but

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.479
<v Speaker 1>we keep putting it off because we're we think after

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>covering Amazon so thoroughly that we didn't want to you

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want to turn tech stuff into the Amazon podcast.

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>But we have to do it for a little while

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 1>because he's number three on the list. Um. So he

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he his mom ended up, uh. You know,

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:29.720
<v Speaker 1>he remarried, divorcing his father and then remarrying. Uh, and

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>she married Mike Bezos, and uh, Jeff decided he essentially

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>took his last name from his adoptive father. UM. And

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 1>he's very very close with him, and he considers them

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 1>his real dad. That's his real dad because he was

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 1>there to raise him, and so he his maternal grandfather

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>worked for Darba on space technology and missile defense technology,

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and he uh was a very instrumental figure in Jeff's

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:01.320
<v Speaker 1>early life. On a column, Jeff, you guys are so

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.240
<v Speaker 1>so tight. Yeah, he I've ordered every day. It's Jeff

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 1>this and Jeff that. I've ordered so many things from

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 1>his site. You would think he would know me by

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>name at this point. He at least knows my address. Uh.

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 1>So he graduated with a degree in electrical engineering and

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>computer science from Princeton. He met his wife, mckensey Bezos

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>while they were both working at a hedge fund company

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:25.320
<v Speaker 1>called D. E. Shaw. And while he was working there,

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>he was working on some database projects and that's when

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>he got the idea of you could create a website

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that could become an online retail space for books, which

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is exactly what Amazon dot com was originally. When it

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 1>first started, it was just about the books only. Yeah,

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 1>they shipped their first one um, but had expanded so

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 1>much that they went public in Yeah. It didn't take

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 1>long at all. So again, this is one of those

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:54.359
<v Speaker 1>companies that existed before the dot com bubble burst, and uh,

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and they really quite well through it. They didn't they

0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:58.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't make a profit for a long time. No, they weren't.

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Their revenues were not profitable, but they were growing quite

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 1>a bit. And and the reason that they weren't profitable

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 1>was was not because they were not doing well, but

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>because they kept Yeah, they were growing so quickly and

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:13.840
<v Speaker 1>expanding so quickly into so many new distribution centers and

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>so many new areas. The costs were higher than what

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 1>they were bringing in, but they were Their revenues were

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.320
<v Speaker 1>increasing year over year, so there was lots of growth.

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 1>There just wasn't a lot of of actual profit for

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:30.399
<v Speaker 1>the first few years. But it did start to turn

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>profit and then didn't stop. Yeah, yeah, it's not a

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 1>problem anymore. They their stock last year, earning Bezos personally

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:41.399
<v Speaker 1>six billion yea, and he was He was named Time

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Magazines Person of the Year because that the Amazon had

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>become so influential even back then in nine before again

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the dot com bubble went Carr pluey. So yeah, he's

0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>done quite well for himself. He's number three on the list,

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 1>which leads us to number two. Mr Larry Ellison, one

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of the more controversial figures from technology worth worth the

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 1>net controversy or now he is he is America's third

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 1>richest man. In fact, Yeah, it's kind of interesting. We

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>went from twenty five point two billion with Bezos to

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 1>forty three billion with Larry Ellison. He of course, is

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a co founder of the Oracle Corporation. Um and uh he's.

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 1>He's made quite a name for himself for multiple reasons.

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 1>One is that again he's the guy who sets his

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 1>yacht against the the fellow we mentioned earlier in the podcast,

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>right right, He's. He's also rumored to be exploring a

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 1>deal to purchase the Sacramento Kings to prevent them from

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>being moved to Seattle. So he's in direct conflict with

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.600
<v Speaker 1>two of the people on our list. Uh he also,

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>uh he's he's bought some pretty famous places, like an

0:53:55.440 --> 0:54:00.400
<v Speaker 1>island of Hawaii, Lani, one of the Hawaii in islands.

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a hundred and forty one square mile island. He

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 1>owns pretty much all of it, including two resorts that

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:10.279
<v Speaker 1>are on the island. Um. You know, well, he just

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.839
<v Speaker 1>dropped five million on It's not not a big deal.

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Half a billion dollars buying Hawaiian island. He also owns

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a one million dollar home in Woodside, California. He owned

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 1>several properties in Malibu. Apparently one of those properties in

0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Malibu has a one million dollar entertainment system that uses

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>an empty swimming pool as a sub bliffer. That is

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.839
<v Speaker 1>the best thing I've ever heard. So if if you're

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in Malibu and you think there's an earthquake, make sure

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that Ellison's not having a house park. Yeah, if he's

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>dropping some mad beats, that might be what you're feeling

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 1>it instead. He's another college dropout. He both in the

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>University of Chicago and the University of Illinois at Urbana Champagne. Yeah, yeah,

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 1>he um. He believes in doing it wholeheartedly in multiple universities. UM.

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:04.719
<v Speaker 1>His adoptive father actually assumed the name Ellison to commemorate

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he came to America and passed through

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Ellis Island. So Ellison Ellison is from that. Um. He

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:15.800
<v Speaker 1>worked at a few companies in California when he was

0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:19.799
<v Speaker 1>in his twenties, and he designed a database for a

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>little organization called the c I a UH and that

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>database was called Oracle, and that's when he got the

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 1>idea to found a software company. It was originally called

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>software development Laboratories, not laboratories um, which is how I

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:38.840
<v Speaker 1>usually say it, and that's what eventually became Oracle. Uh.

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 1>This is again enterprise software. So the Oracle is one

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 1>of those names that I think, like Oracle, Sun Microsystems

0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like these are these are big names that people are

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.839
<v Speaker 1>familiar with, even IBM to some extent, they're familiar with,

0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>but they haven't necessarily used it in a personal person

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>unless they work for a company that has these systems

0:55:56.520 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>and they're in charge of them. But anyway, UM believe

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 1>he's been married and divorced four times, so he's had

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>some issues in his personal life. Um. He's also known

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:12.360
<v Speaker 1>as being a very outspoken and blunt person. Yes, yeah,

0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I've I've heard that once or twice. He has signed

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:19.839
<v Speaker 1>on to the to that Warren Beffett and right, our

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 1>number one number one is yet that's it's amazing. Yes,

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 1>And he's thus far donated UM million, mostly via Oracle stock. Right.

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so he's another one of the members of

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 1>this this elite club of billionaires who have signed the

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Giving Pledge to to really try and make the world

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 1>a better place. I can't criticize that at all. That's

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a phenomenal thing. I mean, that's why I would like

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to think that if I were a billionaire, I would

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing, but of course I'm not in

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that position, so it's really easy for me to say

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 1>it right now. I'm pretty sure that you would be

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.879
<v Speaker 1>a mad scientist and would be really busy doing that.

0:56:56.960 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 1>You can at least be a frustrated scientist, not outright mad,

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 1>but you can still you can, you can still participate

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:06.719
<v Speaker 1>in have your charity. If you watch, if you watch

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:11.799
<v Speaker 1>the forward Thinking episode about our cities growing, you'll see

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:15.240
<v Speaker 1>me deliver one of my megalomaniacal monologues. And I guess

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>mad Scientists is pretty accurate, you know, based on that,

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>So that's fair, all right. So that takes us up

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to number one. And number one, of course is the

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the other person along with Warren Buffett, who said let's

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>do this pledge, and that is of course Bill Gates

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 1>um Worth net sixties seven billion, yes, six seven billion dollars.

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>That has a huge amount of money um and he

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>he only retains about five percent ownership of Microsoft, so

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>most most of that wealth comes from investments that are

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>in other industries and things in bonds and stocks. He's

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:55.680
<v Speaker 1>invested in other companies he's founded other companies. Uh. He

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 1>was the CEO of Microsoft for many years. He stepped

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 1>down in two thousand. Of course, Umber became the CEO

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>at that time. UM. He stayed on as the chairman

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and chief Software Architect for a few more years. Uh.

0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 1>A transition from full time to part time at Microsoft

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six, and retired in two thousand

0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and eight. And I actually remember when he retired because

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I went to c E S when they were talking

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that Gates was going to retire. It

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was his final keynote at c E S UM and

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 1>so they presented this very cute video package that showed

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a typical day of Gates. Yeah, and it was absolutely ridiculous.

0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>It was very clear that Bill Gates has a very

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>healthy sense of humor about himself. He seems to enjoy

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:43.040
<v Speaker 1>poking fun at his own reputation. UH and UM. And

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that's also clear. If you guys know where the phrase

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:51.439
<v Speaker 1>conquistadors they run tight, then you know he's a goofy guy.

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know about that, go to YouTube again

0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>after you've watched Steve Bomber screaming about developers for a

0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 1>good thirty seconds. Uh. Go and type in Jerry Seinfeld

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Bill Gates. Uh. There was a commercial that ran several

0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>years ago that was really just to promote Microsoft. It

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't any particular Microsoft product, Microsoft The Men and a

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>half long, and it was mostly about Jerry Seinfeld walking

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 1>through the mall and seeing Bill Gates getting fitted for

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:24.320
<v Speaker 1>new shoes and then having a bizarre, absurd conversation with him.

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I have somehow completely missed this. It was it only

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:28.920
<v Speaker 1>aired a few times, but one of the things they

0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>talked about the type of shoes. They talked about our

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:34.960
<v Speaker 1>conkistadors and they run tight, as you find out in

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 1>the In the commercial, Chris and I would quote that

0:59:37.280 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 1>all the time because we both really appreciated how goofy

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that commercial was. He was also once arrested in nineteen

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven d traffic violation. So it is nineteen seventies

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 1>seven mug shot is on the internet and it is

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the goofiest looking thing you've ever seen. By the way,

0:59:53.680 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 1>that mug shot also appears in that yeah uh yeah.

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>And like, like Jonathan said, he's only retained five percent

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of ownership and Microsoft, so most of the money that

1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:08.000
<v Speaker 1>he is making right now and which is he's he

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:12.600
<v Speaker 1>made six billion in has been from investment in uh,

1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, other stocks and bonds, etcetera. He uh when

1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:18.479
<v Speaker 1>he went to college at Harvard, and he of course

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:22.720
<v Speaker 1>dropped out uh and went to work with Paul Allen

1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 1>at Honeywell first and then the two of them. Actually

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:27.080
<v Speaker 1>he was still going to Harvard when he went to

1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:30.320
<v Speaker 1>work for Honeywell. He dropped out of Harvard when Paul

1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Allen said, Hey, we should get together and make a company.

1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:37.520
<v Speaker 1>And so Allen essentially, according to what I read, convinced

1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Bill Gates to drop out and to co found Microsoft.

1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:44.040
<v Speaker 1>So if he had not dropped out, we might not

1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 1>have ever had a Microsoft, and the world would be

1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:50.320
<v Speaker 1>a very different Uh. So he and Allen co founded

1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:53.480
<v Speaker 1>this company. Of course, it went on to amazing success,

1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and he went on to great success both at the

1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:00.680
<v Speaker 1>company and a part of from it. So he and

1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:04.720
<v Speaker 1>his wife, Melinda Gates uh founded the the Bill and

1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Melinda Gates Foundation, which has done an incredible amount of

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:13.760
<v Speaker 1>philanthropic work, a lot in developing nations, really all concentrating

1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 1>on things like access to clean water, healthcare, education Forbes.

1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Forbes lists him is the world's most generous person. It's

1:01:22.920 --> 1:01:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty phenomenal, and of course he's still making boatloads

1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:29.880
<v Speaker 1>of money. I know that this foundation has received criticism

1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:33.720
<v Speaker 1>because the way that the foundation ends up funding the

1:01:33.960 --> 1:01:36.840
<v Speaker 1>various projects that works on is through investments, just like

1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:40.520
<v Speaker 1>we've spoken about earlier, and sometimes some people have said

1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that there are times where the foundation has invested in

1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:46.520
<v Speaker 1>companies that are causing some of the very problems that

1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the foundation is trying to So things like companies that

1:01:51.960 --> 1:01:58.160
<v Speaker 1>through their operation contribute to pollution and air quality, things

1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like that, and if that's in fact how they are

1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>funding the projects, then that might be counterproductive. And they

1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the Gates Foundation said at one point that they were

1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:13.640
<v Speaker 1>going to uh instill a new policy where everything would

1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:16.920
<v Speaker 1>be reviewed before it would be funded, but then eventually

1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:23.120
<v Speaker 1>apparently went back to look, the this is leading us

1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to not actually get money out to people, not quite

1:02:26.120 --> 1:02:28.320
<v Speaker 1>not quite so far as to say the ends justify

1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the means. But that's what the critics have said, right

1:02:31.400 --> 1:02:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that that was their position. But ultimately they have funded

1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of charitable efforts to make the world a

1:02:37.840 --> 1:02:40.919
<v Speaker 1>better place. Yeah, they've Bill and Milinda have personally given

1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:45.360
<v Speaker 1>over billion. That's incredible and like we said, you know,

1:02:45.680 --> 1:02:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Bill Gates was one of the ones who who founded

1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:51.240
<v Speaker 1>this giving pledge idea. Uh, and there are a lot

1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:53.040
<v Speaker 1>of people who have signed onto it, not just the

1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:57.280
<v Speaker 1>tech billionaires we've mentioned. Um. He also owns a one

1:02:58.080 --> 1:03:01.440
<v Speaker 1>five million dollar home on Lake Washington. Not actually on

1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the lake. It's actually just on the shore of the lake.

1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:05.960
<v Speaker 1>It's should should be on the lake. That would be

1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:09.000
<v Speaker 1>come on floating home. Technically it's underground, or most of

1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it is. We did a Chris and I did a

1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:14.800
<v Speaker 1>great podcast about Bill Gates's house, like a couple of

1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:18.240
<v Speaker 1>years ago and the place from what we could what

1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:20.760
<v Speaker 1>we were able to read, because you know, there's not

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<v Speaker 1>not all the details are available. But he didn't invite

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<v Speaker 1>you over when he found out that you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. Yeah. Sadly that invitation has been lost in

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<v Speaker 1>the never been written male. Uh. Yeah, but it's an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible house. It's one of those places where they incorporate

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of environmental design in the house itself to

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<v Speaker 1>make it kind of a compliment to the area, not

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, not just a big house that's sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on a pretty hill. It's part of a pretty hill. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They also incorporated a lot of technology, including and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that he's upgraded this since then, but I

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<v Speaker 1>remember one of the first systems I read about was

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<v Speaker 1>an r F I D system where you would get

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<v Speaker 1>something that would have an r F I D chip

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and you could program the chip to whatever

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<v Speaker 1>specifications you like, so you could say, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>like it when a room is seventy degrees, and I

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<v Speaker 1>like this kind of music, and I like this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of art, and as you moved through the house, the

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<v Speaker 1>house changed around here. So it's the idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>smart home. Now, you know, we're getting to the point

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<v Speaker 1>now where the r F I D is becoming less

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<v Speaker 1>and less necessary to achieve that. But back when the

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<v Speaker 1>first being built, that's that was state of the art.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, pretty interesting guy. Um, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>father of three kids. Uh. I thought i'd go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and drop that on there. So yeah, it's he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely done a lot, uh in technology, and and again,

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<v Speaker 1>the world be a very different place without his contributions.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the contributions of all of these people. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I just thought one of their little interesting

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<v Speaker 1>tidbits since we talked about fifteen people. One third of

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<v Speaker 1>the billionaires we talked about dropped out of college. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we found this fascinating. Yeah, five five out of the

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<v Speaker 1>top fifteen billionaires in technology billionaires dropped out of college.

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<v Speaker 1>And and we're not saying that you shouldn't necessarily drop

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<v Speaker 1>out of school. And it's it's a great Now the

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<v Speaker 1>first star is listening to tech stuff. Obviously you are congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't we don't know. We only teach, No, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not saying you drop out of school. But what

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<v Speaker 1>what I was talking I was talking to Lauren before

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<v Speaker 1>we came into the studio and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of it is that when you are

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<v Speaker 1>really smart, like like these people are smart, Yes, this

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<v Speaker 1>level of smart that which is way over my head.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you're this smart and you're this ambitious

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<v Speaker 1>and you have this kind of vision, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just that you're smart, but that you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>apply that intelligence in a way that's going to resonate

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<v Speaker 1>with people and be valuable to people. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>are of this age so we're talking, you know, of

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<v Speaker 1>the college age somewhere around there, then you also are

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<v Speaker 1>at an age where you can afford to take some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big risks because you haven't necessarily got these other

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<v Speaker 1>things that you have to worry about, like a family

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<v Speaker 1>or a home or something like that. You don't already

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<v Speaker 1>have large investments that you're going to you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to throw away if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>risk everything and lose. So you have you have lots

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<v Speaker 1>of benefits. You've got a lot of energy, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this great idea, you've got the intelligence, you've got the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have a lot of stuff that would

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<v Speaker 1>prevent you from taking a big risk, aside from this

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<v Speaker 1>pesky degree that you're pursuing. Right, yeah, that might be

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. But uh and and so we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>other people who realized that, you know, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a risk, like Elon Musk, where he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is this is something that might not work.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to be able to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>my studies if I need to um. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>get older, that that window becomes harder and harder to

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<v Speaker 1>justify jumping through. Right at my age, I'm a married man,

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<v Speaker 1>I own a home, I've got a lot of ties

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<v Speaker 1>here in Atlanta, it would It would take a lot

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<v Speaker 1>for me to have to make a change. So um

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<v Speaker 1>so there's some benefit to to doing it the way

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<v Speaker 1>these guys have done it because they were in the

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<v Speaker 1>right time, the right position, with the right idea. But

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<v Speaker 1>most of us probably could benefit from finishing out the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of that college education school kids. Yeah, actually got

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<v Speaker 1>a great ideas, have a really incredible idea, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we go for it. We were right there with you

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<v Speaker 1>at the very beginning, and we deserve a cut, is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But anyway, that wraps up this discussion

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<v Speaker 1>of some of the incredibly wealthy folks and technology. Hope

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<v Speaker 1>you guys learn something and uh and some of these

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<v Speaker 1>folks we will likely cover in a full podcast. Will

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<v Speaker 1>dedicate a full podcast to someone Larry Ellison we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about as being someone will cover in a full episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we'll do that further down the road, so not tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but but you know, these are fascinating folks

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd love to have the opportunity to research them more. Sure, so,

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys have any subjects we should cover in

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<v Speaker 1>future episodes of tech Stuff, whether that's a person or

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<v Speaker 1>a company or just a type of technology, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of video game do I play when I

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