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Speaker 1: eight thirty pm Eastern, We're going to host another NBA

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Speaker 1: Conference Finals. Looking forward to that. Does it end tonight

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Speaker 1: We shall see before we get to the beach and

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Speaker 1: answer a few of your great questions that you sent

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Speaker 1: at least forget they're called the Go Gos. Winger has

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Speaker 2: Always funny when you see Monumental Network it's whole business name. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Monumental. It's got a lot under that umbrella. Apparently

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Speaker 4: Michael Winger is quite the coup.

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Speaker 4: Good get and we'll be doing a good job there.

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Speaker 4: That's that's how basketball front offices work quite often, but

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Speaker 1: He does prefer to be in the background rather than outfront.

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Speaker 1: Hello Engelbert Humper Dunks. Okay, me and the boys are

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Speaker 4: Do your research, Ethan, and by that I mean know

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Speaker 4: the faces of front office executives like Michael Winger, know

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Speaker 4: the faces of assistant gms. Because it is an NBA convention,

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Speaker 4: you see everyone you want to impress your buds. Say hey,

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Speaker 4: But also because games flip flop from each arena, you

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Speaker 2: People are running back.

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Speaker 3: Shoes at games flip flop. I thought you were going

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Speaker 4: Bring comfortable shoes or no shoes. Yeah, I got a

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Speaker 1: Merch there. No, I have a shirt that I have got.

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Speaker 4: So I got a summer league ye should have worn

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Speaker 1: Damn it. Do you have any tips for Ethan here?

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm looking at Michael Winger here for the first time,

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Speaker 3: and I'm telling you if I saw him at summer League.

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Speaker 3: Guy looks a lot like David Griffin. Here are my

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Speaker 3: tips for first time summer leaguers. Go the first weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Maybe you could meet us as long as you research

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Speaker 3: our faces. But the first weekend is the most hype

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Speaker 3: Victor Wenbin yea, I'm gonna play in summer league. That

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Speaker 1: I know the league would love it, Sure they would

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Speaker 3: wear a very weird jersey. If you have a jersey

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Speaker 3: that is the time to wear it. Is it Summer League?

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Speaker 3: Sean Hiken will take your picture. Here's a couple of

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Speaker 3: peaking duck from Mott thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, we went with.

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Speaker 3: Matt Austin the last time we were at Summer League.

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Speaker 3: Ordered two ducks. You to order my two weeks now.

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Speaker 3: The last thing, maybe go see Usher. This Usher show

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Speaker 3: Go see Usher. Very expensive, but people say it's worth it.

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Speaker 1: Lawler's Law states that the first team two one hundred

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Speaker 1: the magic number still? Thanks for the quality hoops talk.

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Speaker 1: That's from Ben Berkeley. Lawler's Law first to one hundred wins?

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Speaker 2: What just year?

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Speaker 1: Only eighty five percent of the time?

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Speaker 4: So I don't think it actually this This season may

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Speaker 4: let him have Lawler law. I think it's totally fine.

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Speaker 4: It is pretty neat. I didn't know that this existed,

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Speaker 4: But it's pretty damn accurate this season. Yeah, eighty five

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Speaker 1: Wait to go, Chris Peoples, who I believe did this?

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Speaker 3: I'm sending it committee. They're going to study the effects

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Speaker 1: Keep her eye on it, yes, because you're right. If

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Speaker 1: I do like that they point out on this site,

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Speaker 2: Next one here, What Up?

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Speaker 4: Podcast legends the nugget King here with another que listening

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Speaker 4: again to the Fast Friends Fast five spinoff pod, and

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Speaker 4: the part about the Rock and Vin Diesel looking like

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Speaker 4: Hope to hear your thoughts and keep cranking out the classics.

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Speaker 1: So on that podcast The Fast Friends, we were saying

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Speaker 2: It looks like a rock. It's like a guy that

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Speaker 2: Still stand by it. That sounds I don't remember us

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Speaker 4: Shirt offs shirt off. The Rock is more chiseled. You

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Speaker 1: He's like a Diesel mac truck.

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Speaker 3: Both, you get both.

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Speaker 1: It was more definitely that Vin's head looks just like

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Speaker 1: So it's just like and that just means giant dude,

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Big Honey is now the big penguin.

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Speaker 3: I'm just still looking like like like a penguin esque.

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Speaker 3: But allow me to who's the most handsome big guy? Okay?

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Speaker 2: And Al Horford a long time standby.

435
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's handsome too because I feel like he

436
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Speaker 3: would wear a crew next letter to an event and

437
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 3: that's like a handsome look, whereas and Beaten town'sy're probably

438
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 3: going for something a little bit more high fashion.

439
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Speaker 1: I like Cornford for big Handsome.

440
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: So whoever win's the series gets the nickname big Handsome

441
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: probably gonna be Cody Zeller in an Upsetswigen.

442
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 4: I do like Jimmy Butler's nickname for him and Cody

443
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 4: Zeller black Man and Robin that he threw out there.

444
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: Pretty good stuff, pretty good stuff. So he's already been renicknamed.

445
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 4: I guess yeah. I was looking through K's nicknames. The

446
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 4: Big Honey is out there. The Big Tipper I didn't

447
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 4: realize was a nickname for him, but it's pretty good.

448
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 4: He gets on the glass and tips.

449
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: A lot of shot.

450
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the Big Dipper, Big Tipper. I think he

451
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 4: could be named mister Big Shot. Sorry Chauncey Billips, but

452
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 4: he could. He could with the difficulty level. I don't

453
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: know if there's a different nickname for that, like no

454
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 4: f ing way, that's his nickname, you know, something something

455
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: to that effect. I do think, having looked back at

456
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Speaker 4: some old ones, threesus was Kyle Korer's nickname. That's got

457
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 4: to go to Steph because Steph currently his nickname, whether

458
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 4: it's Chef Curry, I think quite often it's it's combined

459
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 4: with Klay Thompson. That's his best nickname, his best known

460
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 4: that's his best known nickname. But this is fricking Steph Curry.

461
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 4: So threesus makes a lot of sense. Just change the game.

462
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 4: And it actually is on his basketball reference page, but

463
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 4: nobody calls him that really.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, we have a double nickname.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if that's yeah. I'm sure that's pretty

466
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 4: common out there, there's double nicknames. Anyways, He's created the

467
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Speaker 4: three point shot. Jesus lived till thirty three, give it

468
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Speaker 4: to Steph. Steph is threesus?

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Speaker 1: A nickname I've always loved from NBA history is plastic

470
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Speaker 1: Man Stacey Augment. Somebody needs that nickname, mckill Bridges. Could

471
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: he be a plastic man? Sure?

472
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Speaker 3: I mean, isn't his noodles right now on basketball better

473
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Bridge string Bean?

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Speaker 1: Right right? I just think it's such a great and

475
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Speaker 1: I also like it for him because he's like he's

476
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: an iron man, so it's like the durability, you know,

477
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: I guess plastic breaks. I don't know. Somebody plastic man, though,

478
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: here's my answer to this. I think it's what's going

479
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: to happen in the next year or two. I know

480
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest players of all time. I'm

481
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Speaker 1: talking Kevin Durant here. One of his nicknames, you know

482
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Speaker 1: he hates it, Uh, the Slim Reaper. What about Wemby

483
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: possibly stealing that? Maybe even chet Holdgren heavy balls out.

484
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys are even slimmer and taller than

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, So it just it's in play. They'd have

486
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Speaker 1: to play an incredible level for you know, a decade

487
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Speaker 1: plus to take the Slim Reaper. But yeah, keep an

488
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Speaker 1: eye on that.

489
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Speaker 4: Any idea for the best way for players to take

490
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: some Yeah, second part of the question. You guys said

491
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Speaker 4: the Rock and Vin Diesel should just duke it out

492
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Speaker 4: to cuffs.

493
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Speaker 2: But in this instance, I think it depends on the nickname, Like.

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Speaker 1: Well, if it's if it's a nickname like threezis, then

495
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: we're having a three point shooting contest, you know, where

496
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: we'rehooting a thousand three pointers and whoever hits the most.

497
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: I guess like playing one on one would be my

498
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: obvious go to for this, Yeah, to steal the nickname.

499
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, anything else. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just trying to come up with a

501
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: nickname for Jokic that's based around tough shots. So like

502
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: mister tough shot.

503
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Speaker 2: How about this mister shot. Oh yeah, my first thought

504
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 2: was mister hard shot.

505
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Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know, no one's pushing it,

506
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: but I've settled on this mister horse shot. But the

507
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: horse is capitalized as in the game of horse horses,

508
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: and he loves horses. Yeah, mister horse shot sounds pretty dumb. Stupid,

509
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 3: but sounds pretty dumb, but that can make it on

510
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: Basketball Reference as like the eighth nickname.

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Speaker 4: Mister Michael Malone his head, which did call him Secretariat

512
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: last week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just keeps going.

514
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Speaker 1: We call him mister ed. Yeah, of course, all right,

515
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Speaker 1: there's lots there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, one more thing about nicknames. I had to put

517
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Speaker 3: junk yard dog into Basketball Reference.

518
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Speaker 1: Players came all right, Jerome Williams.

519
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Speaker 3: Jerome Williams of course.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a coral, No, a coorro at least not I guess.

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Speaker 2: I guess they gave him, gave him the chain that

522
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Speaker 2: made me fair.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been updated yet, so Jerome Williams is like,

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Speaker 3: the third most recent junkyard.

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Speaker 1: Dog is Jay Crowder on that No, but p J.

526
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Speaker 2: Tucker, No, no, fair, fair a local? We had a local?

527
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: One I don't think you'll get because this was one

529
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Speaker 3: I had never heard before. Tony Rotten was the junkyard dog.

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Speaker 3: Whin I got that I was a perimeter player. That's

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Speaker 3: a weird one.

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Speaker 2: And then the other two A.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the other two were Darryl Walker in the eighties

534
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Speaker 3: and nineties, I guess, probably the original junkyard dog, and

535
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Speaker 3: then Mario Ellie a junkyard dog as well.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would have gotten that one.

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Speaker 3: But gotta have a dog fight, so do we.

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00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: If a man's gotta have a dog, does it? Does

539
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: the league gotta have a dog?

540
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: He gotta have a dog.

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Speaker 1: League gotta have a dog. So there always has to

542
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Speaker 1: be a Junkyard dog in themes. Right now, That's what

543
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You didn't give us a current player who

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Speaker 1: is the Junkyard dog of the NBA right now, Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: After the break, we'll have your answer. There we go,

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Don't go anywhere more. Beached up

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Speaker 1: in questions in a sec no NBA playoff game last night,

548
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: No problem. We're on the beach reading your emails and tweets.

549
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: We'll get to a whole new batch here in a second.

550
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Speaker 1: But a league's gotta have a dog, as we have determined,

551
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Speaker 1: which means we need a player with the nickname Junkyard Dog.

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00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: And who are we going with?

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Speaker 3: We got four candidates from the stream team, Gonna put

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Speaker 3: up a pole here. Who is the NBA is current

555
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: Junkyard Dog PJ. Tucker, who I assume will probably win

556
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: the poll, but also included Jay Crowder as mentioned before,

557
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 3: he's a Junkyard Dog, though he probably would have liked

558
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: to get this name a couple of seasons prior after

559
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Speaker 3: the way things went with the Bucks. And then Marcus

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Speaker 3: Smart is a nominee the Hustle Award winner this season

561
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Speaker 3: and last I believe, a three time winner. And then

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Speaker 3: surprising one that I was happy to see from the

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Speaker 3: stream team.

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Speaker 5: Bruce Brown of the Denver Nuggets. Okay, different kind of dog,

565
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Speaker 5: different kind of dog. A lot of different breeds out there,

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Speaker 5: So those are your choices. PJ Talker, j Crowder, Marcus Smart,

567
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 5: Bruce Brown get your votes. And who is the NBA's

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00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 5: current junkyard down.

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Speaker 1: All right, well you win in that poll. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you hit the like button two and make sure you've

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00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: subscribed to No Dunks on YouTube. Also leave your boys

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Speaker 1: a five star rating and review if you're a podcast listener.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep going with the questions. Got a quick one.

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Speaker 1: Here is Jamal Murray the greatest player without an All

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Speaker 1: Star Game and All NBA appearance. This is from swisht

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Speaker 1: JCRSM Underscore two one ninety five by a way of Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Murray greatest player without an All Star Game, NOD

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Speaker 1: or an All NBA selection. Greatest. I think that's a

579
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: bit of a reach, but he's on the list when

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00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: you start considering it. He's been in the league what

581
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: five or six years now, of course, hasn't made either

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Speaker 1: of these, and when you add in his playoff performances

583
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: big games, you know, not just this one, but back

584
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Speaker 1: to the bubble. Yeah, I get why we're getting this question,

585
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: but I thought i'd hit you guys with a list

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Speaker 1: of the greatest players to never make an All Star

587
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: Game or an All NBA appearance. And I tried to

588
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: keep it to the last like twenty five years or so.

589
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: Some honorable mentions to the Ogs though, so I'm talking

590
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: about guys in the seventies, eighties and nineties. John Williamson,

591
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: he was a bucket for your nets back in the day.

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00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Cedric Maxwell leads a lot of people's lists when it

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Speaker 1: comes to this for the Celtics, that's right, Eddie Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Purvis short Byron Scott, Sam Perkins, big smooth or Vita

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00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: s comes over to the league, you know, very very

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00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: late in his career, coming in at the age he did.

597
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: Ron Harper, Derek Harper.

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Speaker 1: Tony Kukoach you know back in the nineties Bulls days,

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00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: and Drazen Petrovich rip Again, those were like seventies, eighties,

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Speaker 1: nineties that are all deserving for some love to having

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00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: never made one of those two. Two other names that

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00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 1: didn't make an All Star Game but did make an

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Speaker 1: All NBA team once Rod Strickland, which everybody always brings

604
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Speaker 1: up as one of the best players that never make

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Speaker 1: an All Star Game. True, they made one All NBA

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00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: selection and Al Jefferson never made an All Star Game,

607
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: got one All NBA nod So they're obviously not in

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Speaker 1: the running here because they got the l NBA selection.

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Speaker 1: Current players Jamal Murray is at the top of the list,

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00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: but like the rest of these current players, I put

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Speaker 1: it under the umbrella of like, yeah, they haven't yet,

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00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: but give it time. Or it's just like they've had

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Speaker 1: one or two really good years like Jalen Brunson the

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Speaker 1: year he just had, Tyler Herro a couple of great

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Speaker 1: years coming off the bench, Tyrese Maxi, Desmond Bane, McKale Bridges,

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Speaker 1: like all these names. These are all really young players.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't know all seven of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Six of those guys I just listed, probably five of

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Speaker 1: them end up making an All Star Game. I'd assume

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Speaker 1: maybe all of them because they're all great. So Jamal Murray, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: awesome question. And now gets us to the real list

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Speaker 1: from the last twenty five years or so. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: twelve best players to never make an NBA All Star

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Speaker 1: Game or All NBA team. I was gonna rank these,

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Speaker 1: and then I tried putting them in order, and I

626
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Speaker 1: was like, this is impossible, Like I don't know how

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Speaker 1: to like determine like, oh, seventh to third. So I thought,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the twelve names in alphabetical order, state

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Speaker 1: their case, why and then maybe you guys pick like

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Speaker 1: your top three or something like that in alphabet in

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Speaker 1: alphabetical order. The first name, it's Mike Bibbie. Two thousand

632
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: and one and two Kings had the NBA's best record.

633
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: He won sixty one games and from three to zero seven,

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00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: Bibbie helps Sacramento make a ton of like deep playoff runs,

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Speaker 1: and he averaged nineteen points per game and five and

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Speaker 1: a half assists. Like he's the leading point guard on

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Speaker 1: a really really good team. As much as I hate him,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be on the list. So it might

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Speaker 1: be be great man. Uh Marcus Camby, double double machine,

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00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: legendary shot blocker. Four times selected to All Defensive Teams,

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00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: he won DPOY. Now, this is an All Star game,

642
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: so you always if you're a defensive minded guy, your

643
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: chances of making it they're reduced greatly. But from the

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Speaker 1: moment he entered the league for the Reps in ninety

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Speaker 1: six to ninety seven through his split season with the

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Speaker 1: Clippers and Blazers in two thousand and nine and twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: that's a long chunk of time there. He averaged ten

648
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Speaker 1: and a half points per game, ten boards, two point

649
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: six blocks, and a steal per game. The guy just

650
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: put up huge numbers, both on the glass obviously when

651
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: it came to blocking. Even the steel per game there,

652
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: I think is incredible over that long a window, nobody

653
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: matched that production.

654
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: The man.

655
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. It's a good nickname. Marcus can't be

656
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 4: also a nickname on Basketball Reference.

657
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: Wow, can't be an All Star because plays too much defense.

658
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: I think it's just weird that he didn't make it once,

659
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: like as a you know, a random injury replacement or

660
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: something like that. Some really solid years, so he's on

661
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: the list.

662
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: I'm surprising. Never was scoring more than twelve points a game.

663
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: He scored the most, did he not? As a rookie

664
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: for the Raptors team point eight for the Raptors. I

665
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: don't think he ever scored more than a point eight?

666
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: Is his next on Denver in five or six?

667
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeaheah fascinating.

668
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 4: But in those thin years for Eastern Conference bigs, I

669
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: think you'd squeeze in or Jamal mcglore or that.

670
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe for sure, maybe, Okay, Jamal Crawford, you want buckets?

671
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Here you go three times six Man of the Year.

672
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: Guy scored nearly twenty thousand career points. He had seven

673
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: different seasons where he averaged over seventeen points per game.

674
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: I think what really hurt him is not just coming

675
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: off the bench, but this guy played for nine different teams,

676
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Like he played for a whole lot of teams somebody

677
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't help his chances. But he's on a lot

678
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: of these type of lists for a guy that never

679
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: got to an All Star game. CJ McCollum current player

680
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: career numbers. Career numbers for c J McCollum here guys

681
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty plus games played. He averages twenty

682
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: four and four twenty points per game, four boards, four assists,

683
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: career shooting splits forty five from the floor, forty from

684
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: three if you just round up a little bit, and

685
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: eighty at the line. Played in the shadow of Damian Lillard.

686
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: Obviously that one year, his fourth year with Portland, he

687
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: was averaging twenty three point four points per game before

688
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: the All Star Break. Problem was the Blazers like ten

689
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: games below five hundred at the All Star Break. As

690
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: you'll see with a lot of these guys, you know,

691
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: having great years but being on crappy teams, it's always

692
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: going to like hurt your chances of making an All

693
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: Star team. But CJ, of all the current players, he's

694
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: the new Mike Conley, He's the new whoa. That guy

695
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: hasn't made one. Guy's been in the league for a

696
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: decade now and has a lot of good years in

697
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: terms of scoring the ball. We'll see will he make one,

698
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: sort of like Conley did near the end. It's possible.

699
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: Another current player. I threw him on here just for fun,

700
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris. I know it's a weird one. But when

701
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: I went and looked at like his best window if

702
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: you strike out, this past season where he really struggled

703
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: to score, Like his numbers really dipped if you count

704
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: the last season he was with Detroit in twenty seventeen eighteen,

705
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: and then his stop with the Clippers there and then

706
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: throw to Philly like the last three years again. Before

707
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: this last year, his averages, Tobias Harris were nineteen points

708
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: per game, seven boards, three assists, great shooting percentages. That's

709
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: a five year window. And I was like, was this

710
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: guy like Sean Elliott. It's like sort of like what

711
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: was coming to mind. I'm like, how many all start

712
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: games as Sean Elliott make? He made a couple two,

713
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: So Tobias is not going to make one. I don't

714
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: think now moving forward, you can argue whether he should

715
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: even be included here, but they're pretty good numbers. And

716
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: he's always like that classic third guy on a team.

717
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: He needs his team to be like running away with

718
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: the number one seed at the All Star break and

719
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: then maybe he slides in but or you know, would

720
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: have because it's probably not gonna happen.

721
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: That to me is the difference. Like Shawn Elliott was

722
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: playing on good teams, Tobias Harris is like the second

723
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: or third guy on a forty win team. Somebody's got

724
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 3: to score twenty points. He's more of an air and

725
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 3: aflalo to me, who maybe me make this list?

726
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Hmmm, I don't have a flow. That's a good one.

727
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: He had a couple of good years. I remember going

728
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: to bat for him one year.

729
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: It was like Stevenson or something. Yeah, way back what

730
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: Andre Miller the consummate point guard. He led the NBA

731
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: with ten point nine assists per game in two thousand

732
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 3: and one two thousand and two, ten point nine assists

733
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 3: per game. He was playing on a very shitty team.

734
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: This is pre Lebron on the Cavs. But he is

735
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: the only player in NBA history to have at least

736
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: sixteen thousand career points, eight thousand assists, which is a lot,

737
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: and fifteen hundred steals without making an All Star Game.

738
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: The only guy. The other names they're wild sixteen thousand

739
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: career points, eight thousand assists, fifteen hundred steals, Lebron Stockton,

740
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: Gary Payton, Kid Magic, Isaiah Russell, Westbrook, and Chris Paul.

741
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: So it's like, I know you can. I'm like picking

742
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: and choose him. The stats there, the accumulated stats, but

743
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: that's that's a wild list, and he never made one obviously,

744
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: but he just didn't score a lot, had a whole

745
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: lot of assists, and he played on some some bad teams.

746
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. Andre Miller was on my short list,

747
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: ye for sure. But he definitely racked up career numbers

748
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: because he was the same player when he was like

749
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: twenty two years old as when he was fifty two

750
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: years old.

751
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Okay, speed, how about this guy for the generation priors,

752
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris, Richard Jefferson sty do that? Okay, maybe he

753
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: was probably better RJ. He put up a really all

754
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Star worthy numbers in seven oh eight. He ever his

755
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: twenty two point six points per game, four point two boards,

756
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: three point one assists. Again, he's hurt by the nets

757
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: being below five hundred at the All Star break. I

758
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: think they were like six or seven games below. But

759
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: like Tobias, you throw out RJ's rookie season. R J

760
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: ever nineteen six and three and six seasons with New

761
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Jersey on good teams too. I mean those teams are averaging,

762
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, forty five to forty nine wins for a

763
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: lot of those years, so they were pretty good in

764
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. He's overshadowed by who he's playing with,

765
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: I think on his team, But how do you feel

766
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: about RJ being in the mix at least?

767
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's surprising actually because the nets were good. He's

768
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: scoring over twenty per game. I'm looking at one year,

769
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: just just a little bit after they went to the

770
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: finals in the mid odds he got hurt in January,

771
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: he did when he was kicking ass that year. It's

772
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: twenty two points. So yeah, that seems like his best

773
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 4: chance all those what I'm not going to bring up

774
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: percentages when we're looking back, but yeah, it's just kind

775
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: of surprising. He didn't sneak in there forward spot in

776
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference.

777
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like some highlights too, you know, you know, a

778
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: little shot hire.

779
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: That Shawn Mary and light, you know, puts up the numbers.

780
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: Lamar is on this list. From his rookie year through

781
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: seven oh eight, he averaged sixteen points per game, nine boards,

782
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: four and a half assists, a steal, and a block.

783
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean he sort of did a bit of everything.

784
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: Garnett and Weber the only players to put up those

785
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: type of numbers, sustained those numbers benchmarks over that time.

786
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: Odin was just sort of a little bit ahead of

787
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: the positionless curve. I guess like he sort of started

788
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: it almost, but it is wild. He never made one.

789
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: Lamar odom and obviously played on very good teams, played

790
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: his role perfectly, So he's on a lot of these

791
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: lists that you see near the top. Jason Richardson he

792
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: averaged twenty three, six and four during the five six

793
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: season with the Warriors. That was probably his best year.

794
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: Played a part on the We Believe Warriors. I always

795
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: forget he played like a pretty instrumental part in the

796
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: Sun's run of the conference finals in twenty nine tenty ten.

797
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: He averaged twenty and five and sixteen playoff games really

798
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: really good, so like you know, a high score. Obviously

799
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: the Dunk champ and all that, but he was on

800
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: some bad teams too that just weren't winning enough for

801
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: him to probably really deserve or warranted a selection from

802
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: the coaches. A couple more names, Jalen Rose, that little

803
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: window between the Pacers and the Bulls good, you know,

804
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: three four years there he was averaging twenty five and five.

805
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: Basically he played a lot of minutes. Really solid player.

806
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Jason Terry's on this list. He hit a lot of threes,

807
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: He averaged like seventeen and five sort of during his

808
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: quote unquote prime there, which was like a long long stretch,

809
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: played a lot of regular season games, sort of Murray

810
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: like where where Jason Terry had some like huge moments

811
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: in playoff games too, especially during the Mavericks twenty eleven

812
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: championship run. Is maybe that is that what Murray is

813
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: replicating right now. If the Nuggets can do it here,

814
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: maybe Lou Williams is my final name, just like Jamal Crawford,

815
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: three times six Man of the Year, consistent bucket off

816
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: the bench, and his best year probably came with the Clippers.

817
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: He averaged twenty two point six points for and five

818
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 1: let's call it, five and a half assist per game,

819
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: and La was they were like thirty and twenty six

820
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: at the break there. So Lou Williams, that's the list.

821
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: Guy's twelve names. Who's like top three to you? Or

822
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: who did I miss? I'm sure there's other names out there.

823
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: Top three for me would probably be Andre Miller. I

824
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: got him ranked high just because I think he was

825
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: a solid guy. Everywhere he went led the league in assists.

826
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: I think you said, yeah, at least one.

827
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Time point nine.

828
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a really solid player.

829
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: I got lamar Odom as well because I feel like,

830
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: of all these guys that you have named, maybe the

831
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 3: most talented player, I agree, And he was fitting alongside

832
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: Kobe and Pau Gasol and even Andrew Bindam was quite

833
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: the player then he was just kind of doing everything,

834
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: but you know he it seemed like lamar Odom could

835
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: have probably averaged twenty five points per game and ten

836
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: assists if you wanted to, and it never felt like

837
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 3: you wanted to. And then the last guy I originally

838
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: had Bibby, but I think I'm gonna sell them out

839
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: for Jamal Crawford three times six Man of the Year,

840
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: so I mean, he's getting his flowers the way he's

841
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: supposed to get him. But I just really like watching

842
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: Jamal Crawford, and man, what about awesome to see him

843
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: in an All Star Game.

844
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good point, man, Lou Williams. Perfect

845
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: for an All Star Game environment. What about you test?

846
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the fact that he played twenty years, which

847
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 4: is a very rare club. I mean one game in

848
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: his last season to get him to that twenty year march.

849
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, a special special guy. Andre Miller, I think

850
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 4: has to be on there. You had a fifty point game.

851
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 4: He could have scored more two if he wanted, but

852
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 4: he played the game the right way, played with George

853
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 4: carl you know, passing the ball. So I think I

854
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: would put those two guys on there. Crawford a bucket,

855
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: Miller a special guy, special player, special stats. The third, Yeah,

856
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: lumar Otams a great one. Won a six Man of

857
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 4: the Year, so you know he got some awards in him.

858
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 4: Give me an r Jeff because I like his TikTok work.

859
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: Okay, So, and the twelve best players to Never make

860
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: an NBA All Star Game or All NBA Team in

861
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: the last twenty five years, in alphabetical order. I got Bibby,

862
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: Camby Crawford, CJ. McCollum, Tobias Harris, Andre Miller, Richard Jefferson,

863
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: Lamar Odom, Jason Richardson, Jalen Rose, Jason Terry, and Sweet

864
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: Lou Williams. I was thinking eating breakfast this morning, I'm like,

865
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: I gotta be forgetting something somebody. Who am I forgetting?

866
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: Who am I forgetting? And then I was like, Andre Carolinko,

867
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: he was a great player, he has some great years.

868
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: And then I went and checked he made an All

869
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Star team indeed. So then I was like, wow, Carole

870
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: Lincoln made an All Star team and lamar Odem didn't

871
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: because like I think of them at times as some

872
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: similarities like just filling the box score obviously Swiss army

873
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: knife type players. But yeah, he made it. Carolinco did

874
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: one year and lamar never did. So there you have it.

875
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: Good thing we did this question. Now, Jamal Murray's gonna

876
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: make it the All Star Team next year as long

877
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: as he Yeah, I mean he played sixty five games

878
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: this year. That's actually enough to make the All Star team.

879
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: Turned it on a little bit as the year went on,

880
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: but I think with the success we've seen from the

881
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: Nuggets this year, his rep is going to rise to

882
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: the level that he will make the team next year.

883
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: As long as he has a season like he did

884
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: this year. I would Middleton style if you will, yep,

885
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: I would agree with that.

886
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got injured and that obviously hurt. What was

887
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: the debate a few years ago, Who's going to make

888
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: their first All Star Game?

889
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: It was Jamal Murray or someone night.

890
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: Like before he got hurt, there was somebody that it

891
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: was the prominent him or him, and it was always

892
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray SGA.

893
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: I think it may even pre fuck maybe it was fun.

894
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: The thing was pre Fox.

895
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: Booker well, Leon I used to always like it was

896
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: the Booker Beal thing.

897
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: Can't going way back anyways, We'll figure it out. We

898
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 4: got a question about twenty year careers here. Lebron James

899
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 4: just finished his twentieth season, a club only nine other

900
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: players belonged to, including Jamal Crawford. Which current players would

901
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: you predict join the twenty season club? That's from p

902
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: h X Cody. What do you got Trey This is

903
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 4: an interesting, interesting question.

904
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think my good friend phx Cody here is

905
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: watching one of the players who is gonna get to

906
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: twenty seasons? Kevin Durant is in currently his sixteenth season.

907
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 3: I guess technically fifteen if you count the year he missed,

908
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: but he was still an NBA employee cash and NBA

909
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: checks this dude loves the hoop. He's gonna make it

910
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: to twenty seasons. He's gonna play another four years. I

911
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 3: think that is an easy one. He's the next guy

912
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: to get to twenty For.

913
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: Me, I think, yeah, technically they wouldn't include him unless

914
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 4: he does another five years.

915
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just gonna ask that him. Yeah, yeah, that

916
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: makes sense.

917
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah.

918
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 4: I think that's the even though he's the rule. Yeah, yeah,

919
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: I think it applied to.

920
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: It?

921
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: Is it?

922
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: Kevin Willis? I think he missed a year and then

923
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: he got to his twenty mark in his twenty first season,

924
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: if you want to call it that. Ye, so if

925
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: you want to be technical about it. But yeah, who

926
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: are the guys? I mean, we probably don't know off

927
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: top of our heads. Kevin Willis, Dirk Di Cambe, Parrish.

928
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: Did he make it Kobe.

929
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean, did Cream end up playing probably more than

930
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: twenty Yeah you said Vince, Yeah.

931
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: Jamal Crawford, Yeah yeah, Vince the leader in the clubhouse.

932
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: I think that's a good one. KD could which is

933
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 4: an astonishing one considering his injuries early on. I would

934
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: probably pick Luca to get there. Seems like a durable guy.

935
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: That's what you want to pick when you're when you're

936
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: looking at these. He would be thirty eight to start

937
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 4: his twentieth season. He started pretty young, started nineteen, so

938
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: you want that if you're you're looking at it. And

939
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 4: I think Staph has a possibility, oh yeah, just because

940
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 4: the way he plays. But he started late going to college,

941
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: so he would be forty to start his twentieth season.

942
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: What about Christ He's got a lot of miles on

943
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: those legs. Chris Paul's closer.

944
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Chris Paul's very close. Ris Paul is close to he

945
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: wants to. He can obviously be on a on a bench, yeah,

946
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: still even playing like a spine.

947
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: He's signed through technically signed through his twentieth season.

948
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: So right, maybe in ten years the answer will be everybody,

949
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: we're going.

950
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 3: To see more.

951
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're absolutely going to see more.

952
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, good question.

953
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: We only missed two twenty season plus players. One is

954
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 3: current right now, as you're going to see his face tonight.

955
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. You Donna's haslam and I mean they're

956
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 3: playing the game in Boston. You might see this guy's

957
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: face as well.

958
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: Twenty years we said twenty one years Kevin Garnett.

959
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: That's right, Kevin Garnett, twenty one season.

960
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: So young, I know, but I don't. I don't include

961
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: them in this list, obviously.

962
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: I forget. It's a great question.

963
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: It's impossible as possible.

964
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: Anything is possible. Impossible is nothing that's right?

965
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: Next one here, longtime listener, first time beacher. We love

966
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: to see it. I haven't really seen anyone else talk

967
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: about this, but I would love to see a Trey

968
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: Young for Zach Lavine trade. The Bulls are in need

969
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: of a point guard that can create some offense and

970
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: shoot threes, and I believe they now have the defensive

971
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: pieces to cover for Trey's lack of defense with Atlanta.

972
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: This lets them go all in on de Jontay Murray.

973
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Trey Jung also seems to be in a strange state

974
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: with the Hawks, and the players don't seem to buy

975
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: into his type of leadership. Levine can come in and

976
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: provide a better off ball solution for Murray while still

977
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: being able to get his own when needed. Dejonte also

978
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: friends with Zach, being how they both grew up playing

979
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: in Seattle. The money seems like it works, but I

980
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: believe the Bulls would have to include one of Io,

981
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: Kobe or Pat just going with their short versions of

982
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: their lives to really convince Atlanta, who says, no, okay.

983
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: So this is a Trey Young for Zach Levine trade

984
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: with probably the Bulls including a little bit more, which

985
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: I do believe. Also, I just wanted to retroactively thank

986
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: you guys for the five hundred dollars from cash app,

987
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: a contest that you guys did a couple of years ago.

988
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: It really helped when covid was whipping my wallet's asses

989
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: from Antonio in Chicago. I forgot we did that cash

990
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: app giveaway back in the day. Happy to hear you

991
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: got it. Happy to hear it helped. And Trey, I

992
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: mean you got to start this one off the idea

993
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: of a Trey Young for Zach Lavine sort of deal.

994
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: Where are you at on this?

995
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: These guys are on the exact same contract, like to

996
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 3: the dollar amount. This season, they both made thirty seven million,

997
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: ninety six five hundred dollars. Next season, they both make

998
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: forty million, sixty four, two hundred and twenty dollars. They're

999
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: on the exact same contract, which is why the Hawks

1000
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: would say no. Zach Levine is three and a half

1001
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: years older than Trey Young is. He's got injuries in

1002
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: his past, he seems to have put them behind him.

1003
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: During the second half of the season he looked great.

1004
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: And it's not like zach Lavine would come into another

1005
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: team and instantly become an off ball guy. He wants

1006
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: to have the ball, just like Trey Young does, just

1007
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: like DeMar Derozen does for.

1008
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: The Bulls right now.

1009
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: So I do believe it would be the Hawks saying

1010
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: no because they would be getting older. I still think

1011
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 3: Trey Young is more of a number one than Zach

1012
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: Lavine is, and I don't think that Io Kobe or

1013
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: my good friend Pat Murphy would be the one to

1014
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: really swing this deal here.

1015
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

1016
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: It's a great locker room guy though, brings it together.

1017
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 3: See a junkyard dog. He no, no, no, no, no,

1018
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: he was he was a pitcher. He was a baseball

1019
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: pretty boys come back. You know, baseball players really toe

1020
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: the line.

1021
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: It's great electrician too right here.

1022
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: In Georgia, Pat Murphy Electrical tops. Anyway, Yeah, all the reasons, Uh, yeah,

1023
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 4: I got it. Which guy do you have a little

1024
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: bit more faith in into being a number one? As

1025
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 4: you said, it's got to be the younger guy and

1026
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 4: Trey young again, he's gone through a roller coaster of

1027
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: a career already because he was bowing an MSG in

1028
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: just his third year, so he's only played five years.

1029
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: He's young five years. Yeah, it feels like he's been

1030
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: around forever.

1031
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 4: Five seasons exactly, not even twenty five, like it'll be

1032
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 4: twenty five going into next year. You think about it

1033
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: that way, he's not even in his prime.

1034
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna grow, yeah, be better. So it's hard, it's

1035
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: hard to even think about that type of package.

1036
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that. He had a really bad year when

1037
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: it came to shooting, for sure, especially from deep at

1038
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: thirty three percent. And he hasn't even been like a

1039
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: He's not Steph Curry level a three point shooter. He's

1040
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: not threezis by any means, like in his career thirty

1041
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: five percent, which you'd like to see higher too. But

1042
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: with Trey Youngett oddly has become where this suddenly guy

1043
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: is like underrated, Like it's like he's getting thrown in

1044
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: all these things and it's like all these like sort

1045
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: of half assed packages and you know, like he's really good,

1046
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: like he is. He has faults, no doubt. I mean,

1047
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: the defense is always gonna be somewhat of an issue

1048
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: and and maybe he is not. I don't know. I

1049
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: think it's still too early. Yeah, what type of leader

1050
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: is he? But my god, the guy he's a twenty

1051
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: six and ten in his career, twenty five and ten.

1052
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: Like we'll slow down a little bit here with like

1053
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: trying to ship them out, and I hope the Hawks

1054
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: are as well. So yeah, I like the I like

1055
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: the concept. There would have to be more coming back

1056
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: from the Bulls, but I just don't think Atlanta would

1057
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: ever do this. And you said it yesterday. Task too.

1058
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: With the Quinn Snyder edition as the head coach, they

1059
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: are at least going to do their moves this offseason,

1060
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: try and show up that team a little bit, and

1061
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: then with Quinn have a full training camp and a

1062
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: start of the season and see if they can actually

1063
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: live up to some expectations. This is a team that

1064
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: also always starts like crap. Yeah, like come in and

1065
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: have a good start to a season and you can

1066
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: put all this to bed, which I think they have

1067
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: in them, and I think Quinn maybe is the right

1068
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: guy for it.

1069
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs a relationship with the coach. I know,

1070
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: the Nate McMillan once started well, didn't end well. The

1071
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 4: Lloyd Pierce one didn't go all that well. So I

1072
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: think this is important to him. You're turning twenty five.

1073
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 4: Maybe that's a part of it too, just growing up

1074
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: a little bit. He likes Quinn, he said. The future

1075
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 4: here in Atlanta is Quinn. Quinn's that one name man,

1076
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 4: one N on the end of his name man and

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00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: a one name man. Just Quinn and Trey I think

1078
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: could work well together. But yeah, this is the I

1079
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: called it a roller coaster of a career because this

1080
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: is probably the lowest rep he's had in several years.

1081
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: He went into the All Star break averaging twenty nine

1082
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 4: and like nine and a half and wasn't an All

1083
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 4: Star and wasn't voted very highly by his peers. So

1084
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: that's yeah, reputation wise, it's bad for him, but I

1085
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 4: think he's working right now. That's what the Atlanta Hawks

1086
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: twitter account says. He's working out right now, So I

1087
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: think he's working to get better. And I'm sure a

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00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: second year with de Jontay Mury's going to be better

1089
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: as well.

1090
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 2: But we'll see.

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00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: All right, final one here what we got?

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00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 4: In an unlikely world where both Chris Paul and Lebron

1093
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 4: James retire after this season, how would you rank the

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00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: careers of the Banana Boat crew. Lebron is obviously the

1095
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 4: first pick, and I'm leaning towards Wade for number two.

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00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 4: But two to four is pretty murky. That's from Creature Skeleton. Well,

1097
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 4: two to four is murky, I don't think so. I'm

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00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 4: taking Gabby yet number two. Ebrielle Union was on the

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00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: Banana boat. Carmelo Anthony was not on the Banana Boat.

1100
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: That's one of those Mandela effects we always think of

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00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 4: Mellow with Chris Paul and dwayde Wade and Lebron James.

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00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: Now Mellow has cleared this up. He said he was

1103
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 4: on his way, and.

1104
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: He was on his way to the Banana boat.

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00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 4: He flew in, well, he flew in and he was

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00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 4: like he was taxing from a boat. They kind of

1107
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 4: did leave withoutout him, and they were sort of waiting though,

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00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 4: and he said, apparently, no, I don't want to be

1109
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: on that thing. Go do your thing, so wear a

1110
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: hat on that thing. So so the Banana boat crew

1111
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: that everyone remembers. Sorry, Gabby, we're going with the basketball

1112
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 4: players here. Lebron in the in the one seat. You'd

1113
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 4: rather have his career than anybody else. But then the

1114
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 4: debate can begin Wade, Yeah, who's the number two?

1115
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 2: Sure? And then Mellow and Chris.

1116
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: Paul and the debate begins at number three.

1117
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: Yes, totally, it goes Lebron Wade, and then we can

1118
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: have some sort of conversation about who's three?

1119
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: Is it?

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00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: Mellow?

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00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: The finals, MVP, Yeah, he's going on number two. Yeah wait,

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00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: free titles yeah, wait is wait?

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00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: I mean I'm bias. Wait it's one of my top

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00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: five dudes ever. But I think that he is a

1126
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: lot further ahead Chris Paul than Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony.

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00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: I think you're taking Chris Paul over Carmelo Anthony when

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00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: it all comes down to it, though they both have

1129
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 3: the exact same amount of posseason success and.

1130
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: Then Chris Paul got into a final. They give you

1131
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 4: something for that, but that's not the same postseason success.

1132
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say Carmel Anthony got to a conference final.

1133
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: Chris Paul got to a final. Fourth and second, Yeah,

1134
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 4: but fourth and assists. You're talking fourth Chris Paul. Obviously,

1135
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 4: people say, oh, Melo's top top ten in scoring, but

1136
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: Chris Paul regarded as a higher player for a stretch

1137
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 4: five times was top five and MVP vote yeah, and

1138
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: then six or seventh another four times.

1139
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: So top seven nine times, and Mello.

1140
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 4: Was third once, sixth once. So yeah, it's it's CP,

1141
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 4: even though people have forgot it's a it's a wow back.

1142
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that it's that's the order. It's Lebron, Wade,

1143
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: Chris Paul, and Mellow. You know, Chris Paul is going

1144
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: to Ring or not, He's going to be considered one

1145
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: of the greatest point guards of all time. I think,

1146
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's some great ones, don't get me wrong,

1147
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: but I think he'll be included in that list again,

1148
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: whether he even win the Ring, which it's looking like

1149
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 1: he may not unless he picks one up at the end,

1150
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: whereas like Mellow, you know, when we just did ten

1151
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: minutes like gushing over how much we love Mellow and

1152
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: how cool he was and all the buckets and all that.

1153
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: But like, I don't think I don't think he's going

1154
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: to be like he's not gonna be on those short

1155
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 1: lists of like, oh he's one of the greatest small

1156
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: forwards power forwards. Ever, He's just not. He's like a

1157
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: tier or two down. So yeah, I think that's the order.

1158
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: I wish it was the order they were on the boat.

1159
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean Lebron's at the back, Chris Paul then next,

1160
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: then Wade and then Gaby at the front. Yeah. So

1161
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna Readoctor this photo, put Mellow

1162
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: into the photo and then put them in order, put

1163
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: Lebron at one way, two, Chris Paul three, and Mellow

1164
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: in the end with his hat.

1165
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: They gotta go back and redo it. They're like, this

1166
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: are going on a vacation again.

1167
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, f be hilarious.

1168
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: They did that picture.

1169
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: Great questions guys, love that last one from at Creatures Skeleton.

1170
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Gotta take one more break, but when we come back,

1171
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: we do have tweet of the night. Don't go anywhere.

1172
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's start wrapping up this beach step in

1173
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: podcasts with Tweet of the.

1174
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: Night, Tweet of the Knight, Wow twt.

1175
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: Tweet of the Night is actually tweets of the Day

1176
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: and it comes yesterday from at Slam Online sharing some

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00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: great photos with a few captions. First one, Welcome to

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00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: the future Palla Bancaro covers Slam two forty four. There

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: it is turbo charged. Is that a fast and furious

1180
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: reference there with Pallo on the cover of Slam two

1181
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: forty four. But then we saw the full fit. Oh baby,

1182
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: look at those jeans, Holy Moley. And one more with

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: de caption y two k just to really see how

1184
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: large the opening is on those jeans. Tasks at the bottom.

1185
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: You could put multiple basketballs in those pants. So yes,

1186
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: people were loving this tray. I know you were tweeting

1187
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: away about this. You're a fan of the fit.

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00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: Here the cover, I'm a fan of the cover. I'm

1189
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: a fan of the photo shoot, no doubt about it.

1190
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: Wearing the Jinkos on some of the photos. If you

1191
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: look on his left hip, you can see literally a

1192
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: pair of Jinkos j n ceoll you know from the future.

1193
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: That to me is a weird part of it. The

1194
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: future episode. We're going twenty to thirty years in the

1195
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: past for this look. But this to me became like

1196
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: instantly an iconic photo shoot, kind of on par with

1197
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: when Kobe Bryant was wearing those all white outfits for

1198
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: I think it was the La times he had.

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00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: Like the big tall pillow.

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00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was like, this is one of the

1201
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: funniest NBA photo shoots of all time. Paolo Boncaro in

1202
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: the giant pair of Jinkos shout out to him for

1203
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: being like, yeah, you're putting on the cover Slam magazine,

1204
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: all we're some weird pants. Everybody would do that.

1205
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: He's got those pants on. Then we don't even talk

1206
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: about the goggles that he's got. Like a lot of

1207
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: people pointing out he's looking like Seth Green's character from

1208
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: Can't Hardly Wait, which here it is, Uh, you know,

1209
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: the goggles, the giant ass pants. That's late nineties for you.

1210
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: There task any thoughts on Man Carrol's.

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00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: Fit, Well, the decision to not put it on the

1212
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 4: cover is an interesting one, to not put the pants

1213
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 4: on the cover because yeah, they're a little too much,

1214
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 4: But at the same time then they sneak it in

1215
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 4: into the photo shoot, which I guess. I guess those

1216
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 4: are images in the magazine like that.

1217
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: They may be.

1218
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: They probably are probably one or two.

1219
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: I hope, so, I.

1220
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: Hope so they got to show those pants because I

1221
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: don't I don't want it just to be an online thing. Yeah,

1222
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: they publish these things if you're if you're gonna make

1223
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 4: them wear these things. But yeah, good sport to put

1224
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: on those things.

1225
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: Paolo is listed at six'. Ten, okay that's a big.

1226
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: Dude how many regular sized humans could fit in those.

1227
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: Jeans think about how big those jeans are right? Now

1228
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: they're big on like a big version of those jeans

1229
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: on me are huge. Jeans but then we're talking of

1230
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: a six' ten. Guy here how heavy are? Those? Jeans

1231
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: POINT did i even lift?

1232
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,479
Speaker 3: Them up you could use those jeans as a weighted

1233
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: blanket on, YOUR bed.

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00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: I believe.

1235
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: GUARANTEE guaranteed, I mean i.

1236
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: DON'T know I went i.

1237
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 3: Went To the, jinko website, of course trying to figure

1238
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: out what pants. These, were okay they could be anywhere

1239
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: from a twenty inch leg opening to a fifty.

1240
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: Inch leg those look gigantic side.

1241
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: Fifty inches but that's what it. Looks like, crazy man,

1242
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: that's amazing crazy.

1243
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: Crazy, stuff great great look slam two four for go

1244
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: grab yourself copy. Of that, and yeah hopefully those those

1245
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: some of those picks where we saw the actual full

1246
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: fit are in the actual. Magazine.

1247
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 4: TOO yeah i Have seen jinko's being photoshopped into. HISTORICAL

1248
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 4: photos i forget who. Did it, oh god but. Hilariously

1249
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: done just really what done on the legs of people and.

1250
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 2: Random photos it's, so good.

1251
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: SO good i tried to find a photo, of me by,

1252
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: the way. Wearing goggles there was a definite SUMMER where

1253
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: i was trying to wear those goggles on the Head

1254
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: Like seth. GREEN there i could not. FIND it i

1255
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: know there's one photo that exists of me with them

1256
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: at some party or something OR some i, don't know

1257
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: summer bash, or SOMETHING but i couldn't. Find IT so i, failed.

1258
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: YOU guys.

1259
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: I apologize shout Out To mike Bouvet.

1260
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 4: On twitter he's received tweeted the night before he's Photo

1261
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 4: Shopping Lee harvey Oswald.

1262
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: In jenko's. It's great it's just it's. Just great, All

1263
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: right let's call, It up call.

1264
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: It up let's call.

1265
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: IT there i got a couple circle backs for. You here,

1266
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 3: real quick we asked the people who's the NBA's current.

1267
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: Junkyard dog forty four percent VOTED.

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01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: For.

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01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: Pj tucker second leading boat Getter Was bruce brown at,

1270
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: Thirty percent so he's the junkyard dog of this. Year's

1271
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: playoffs at the very, LEAST task i need to apologize,

1272
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: To You chris paul had more postseason Success Than carmelo

1273
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: anthony eighty one playoff wins to just twenty Eight For. Carmelo,

1274
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: anthony wow twenty go.

1275
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: And wins now you, would say you Would Say chris

1276
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: paul was on.

1277
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: Better, teams, yeah sure you.

1278
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: Certainly would you certainly would because he was.

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: On him that's also part, of it. All right how

1280
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: do you Rank the banana? Boat crew, great. Questions guys

1281
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: good to be back on. The beach love, the beach

1282
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: chicking around, some sands splashing around in, the water reading

1283
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: your emails. And tweets we'll be doing, it again, no

1284
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: doubt throughout. The summer but we've got no buffs coming up.

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01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: Later today it was the finale. Last night we got

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01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: a lot, To unpack so join us at One Pm

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Speaker 1: eastern no bus own, YouTube feed on, podcast feed and

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Speaker 1: then tonight eight Thirty, pm eastern we'll go live on

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Speaker 1: Playback for game five Of The Eastern conference finals Between

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Speaker 1: The boston Celtics And. Miami Heat No gabe vincent in.

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Speaker 1: This game sham's during this Show Saying gabe vincent is

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Speaker 1: Out for. Game five the opening is there For the

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Speaker 1: celtics to make this? A series can they do it?

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Speaker 1: At home Or is jimmy gonna close the door? On

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Speaker 1: them he was pretty casual After that game. Four lost what,

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Speaker 1: You say i'm gonna drink some beers.

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Speaker 3: And drink, some beers drink.

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Speaker 1: Some Wines all i'm gonna say is. We're okay. That's

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Speaker 1: Right So jimmy butler's gonna be stupid hungover tonight or.

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Speaker 1: Kicking ass so want to mix and wine. And beer

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Speaker 1: so we'll be on play back tonight eight Thirty. Pm eastern,

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Speaker 1: Until Then. Clipper bros you.

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Speaker 3: Heard it, here first have a, great time, turn up

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Speaker 3: love you, Guys awesome thanks for.

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