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Speaker 1: Too Much Information is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Brendan Fraser Information. I mean

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Speaker 1: too much Frasier, I mean Brendan much. I mean for

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Speaker 1: I'm just pitching wild too much, too much Friend and Fraser.

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Speaker 1: There's never enough Brendan Fraser. Too Much Information, the show

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Speaker 1: that brings you the secret histories and little known, fascinating

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Speaker 1: facts and figures behind your favorite Frasier's, Brendan's movies, music,

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Speaker 1: TV shows, and more. Because that's what this show is

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Speaker 1: really about, living, laughing, loving. Brendan Fraser started Brendan Fraser Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I do really well these days, probably right where you're two,

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Speaker 1: Brendan Fraser's friend. In fact, I had Scared Beatles of

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Speaker 1: Behind the Seatles first Bad. We could work with that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can we a be it? Can you cut two different

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Speaker 1: we'll go with that and Jordan's Today we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about one of the most beloved hits from those

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Speaker 1: waning days of the last millennium. We're talking about the Mummy.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Mummy, not to be confused with

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Speaker 1: the Mummy or ninety two is the Mummy or even

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine the Mummy. That's right, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Mummy parentheses, where so I could call it Mummy nine.

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Speaker 1: Can we make that a thing? Mummy? Just riffing wildly here.

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Speaker 1: You thought this was gonna be a short one. You're

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Speaker 1: recording this at eleven PM your time, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: riffing into the wind. You know, Jordan, what I think

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Speaker 1: about this time in my life? I think mostly about

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Speaker 1: being bitterly let down by Star Wars the Phantom Menace,

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Speaker 1: But in between those two things, it was all about

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Speaker 1: the Mummy. Baby bing Bong PG. Thirteen horror movie. Quippy

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Speaker 1: but dashing lead performance from Brendan Fraser, who I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that dude is six four. Yeah, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that until reading this too. Yeah, Big Fraser would wash

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Speaker 1: either of us in a fight with especially, would rocks

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Speaker 1: either of us in a fight. That's true. God, Um,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about Mommy Jordan's I liked it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think I saw, in the best possible

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Speaker 1: scenario that anyone could ever see, Mummy nine. I saw

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Speaker 1: it at a drive in movie theater, which like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's all I have to say. I

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Speaker 1: to the movie, which is kind of in the grand

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Speaker 1: I was just yeah, but we were like twelve, so

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Speaker 1: so many time, and I think it's my first time

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Speaker 1: I had to drive into That's awesome. That is just great.

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Speaker 1: I imagine that this scratched some of your your like

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Speaker 1: because you and I both love love Indiana Jones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's swashbuckling. It was literally pitched as swashbuckling.

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Speaker 1: the phrase swashbuckling, No idea. I assume it has to

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Why is it called swashbuckling compound of

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Speaker 1: It is a compound of the archaic word swash to

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Speaker 1: swagger with a drawn sword and buckler a small shield

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Speaker 1: far out anyway, Yeah, I guess this is probably was

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Speaker 1: probably too spooky for you though you don't like spooky. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And also, I mean I I love the old universal

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Speaker 1: comedies were good. So we were talking earlier. You've never

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Speaker 1: Dudley Moore. Wow, maybe you know what set? Yeah, you guys,

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Speaker 1: History Channel talk about Long Island. First Brandon and Frasier

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's going to win that Oscar. Is

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Speaker 1: it good? I haven't seen it. No, I've heard the

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Speaker 1: movie is like grotesque and kind of but it's the

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Speaker 1: the Mummy. Way, do these people see how horny I

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Speaker 1: here for my parents. Listen to this shows what is

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Speaker 1: my father in law story? The Mummy? Mummy story? Mum

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Speaker 1: he did not. I mean, I don't think he knew

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Speaker 1: it would have. In his defense, I don't think he

423
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Speaker 1: knew it was going to kill him, right, Yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay,

424
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: we're putting the cart ahead of the horse here. We'll

425
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Speaker 1: get to the Brenda Fraser almost died story later. We're

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Speaker 1: going to take a quick break, but we'll be right

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Speaker 1: back with more. Too much information in just a moment

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Speaker 1: pole of Evie Carnahan. Stephen Somers told Entertainment Weekly, the

429
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Speaker 1: studio started throwing up all these American actresses. Nobody knew

430
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Speaker 1: who Rachel Weiss was. She auditioned four or five times

431
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Speaker 1: and The character Evie Carnahan was named in honor of

432
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Speaker 1: the explorer Evelyn Karnavn Carton Carnivan. Well. I know this

433
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Speaker 1: because he's the daughter of George Herbert, who's the fifth

434
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Speaker 1: Earl of Carnarvon, who I know as the guy who

435
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: bankrolled the king discovery of King Tut's tomb uh And

436
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: he notably died soon after He's supposed to be the

437
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: one of the first victims of the supposed King Tut's

438
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: curse when he got bitten by a mosquito and then

439
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: cut the bite when he was shaving and it became infected,

440
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: and he died fairly soon after the discovery of the tomb.

441
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: I think it's a real freaky way to die. So anyway,

442
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: that's how the female lead in The Mummy got her name,

443
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: Evi knar Hand Rachel Weiss wasn't as well known as

444
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Speaker 1: Brendan Frasier or even the rest of the cast for

445
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: that matter, but she would return for the Mummy returns,

446
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: but not the third one. I guess Mummy returns kind

447
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: of slaps. It's got a dirigible and it has the

448
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: rock and rock you know, now I'm getting my my

449
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: Mummy's confused. Was the Rock not in the first one? No, No,

450
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: he's the Scorpion King who, yes, he earns his own film. Ah,

451
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: he is the titular Scorpion King. Apparently he was. He

452
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: filmed everything from Mummy Returns in a day because he

453
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: had like horrific food poisoning. So he was like sweating

454
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: and pooping and puking in like a hundred and thirty

455
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: degree heat, and Stephen Summers had him for a day.

456
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: He was like he'd be under this blanket and then

457
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: we'd be like call, I'd be like action and then

458
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: and the Rock would like throw himself in like and

459
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: nail all the all the physicality and stuff and then

460
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: just like collapse in a pile of food poisoning when

461
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: the cameras stopped rolling. He's a pro, what can you say?

462
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: He pops. M Original Vice trained six to eight hours

463
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: a day for three months to do her fight scenes

464
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: with Returns. You remember that scene where they're like fighting

465
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Speaker 1: with size. For some reason, they have like Japanese weapons

466
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: in ancient Egypt and they're like bikini fighting seen rules.

467
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: But as she said, she did not return for the

468
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Speaker 1: third Mummy. Vice told the Birmingham Post i don't normally

469
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: like horror films. I get really scared. I was petrified

470
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Speaker 1: watching Gremlin's which I don't recall is being that scary. Uh,

471
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: But I don't think that this is a horror movie.

472
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: It's Hocum a comic book Worlds for the titular role

473
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: of not the Scorpion King but the Mummy. Production cast

474
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Speaker 1: Arnold Vosslu a stage train South African actor, but on Broadway.

475
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: He's probably best known in Hollywood at this point though,

476
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: for being the bad guy in A Hard Target, which,

477
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, is John Wou's legendary Hong Kong

478
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Speaker 1: action director John wouse first American film starring Jean called

479
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: Vandam and His mullet Um. It's a loose adaptation of

480
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: the Most Dangerous Game set in Louisiana. So you get

481
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: John Cod Vandam doing a Cajun accent and it rules.

482
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: And then he took over the role of dark Man

483
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Speaker 1: from Liam Neeson for dark Man's two and three. Uh,

484
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: those are wild movies, Sam Rami anyone dark Man anyway.

485
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Apparently they auditioned a boatload of people for the role.

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00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: Somers told Sina Fantastique that we were kind of at

487
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: our wits end for im Hootep, and then suddenly Arnold

488
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: Vosslo walked in. It was funny at first. There was

489
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: something kind of intimidating about him. I can't explain it.

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00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: He's Shakespearean, he's serious, he's very commanding. Within thirty seconds

491
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: I knew he was going to be the guy, and

492
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: I never do that. But there was an adjustment period

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Speaker 1: for Arnold Voslow. He said, they go, all right, here's

494
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: your wardrobe. He's talking to e W and it's like

495
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: a g string. I liked my beer as he continued.

496
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: I had a bit of a paunch still do. Steve

497
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: told me afterwards that the wardrobe master said, we've got

498
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: a problem. We've got a fat mummy, so mean produce

499
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: to Jim Jack's told Cinefestique Arnold was only about ten

500
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: or fifteen pounds overweight, but he had to put on

501
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: this little skirt, and boy did every ounce of its show.

502
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: I told him he had a month to loose the weight,

503
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Speaker 1: and I suggested he take a look at the Ten

504
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: Commandments movie to see how Yo Brenner looked back. Then

505
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: both Lew added to cinevest they inflicted a trainer on me.

506
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: That's a great way to phrase that. Who am I

507
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: tried to avoid at all costs. He cut out alcohol

508
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: and sugar from his diet and that helped him lose

509
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: the weight, but it was less easy being hairless for

510
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Speaker 1: the role. He had had a bad experience with waxing ones,

511
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: so instead he committed to daily shaves to get the

512
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Speaker 1: requisite uh smooth look for the character. He said he

513
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Speaker 1: was doing research for it and he was like, I

514
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: found out that the priests shaved their head, so I

515
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: went ahead and shaved everything. That's right. He looks like

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Speaker 1: a Kendall. And also in order to nail the Egyptian

517
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Speaker 1: required for the role, he worked with Dr Stuart Smith

518
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Speaker 1: of the Institute of Archaeology at u C l A,

519
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: who supervised Stephen Summer's script, and vastly worked with Smith

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00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: over the phone for hours, times at three am because

521
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Speaker 1: of the time difference between Morocco where they're shooting in

522
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Speaker 1: l A to learn these lines phonetically. The rest of

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Speaker 1: the film's casting, well, well, the all the entirety of

524
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: the film's casting. I shouldn't even say the rest. It's troublesome.

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00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: In three there's no Egyptian people in any of the

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Speaker 1: film's major roles. The guy playing director Terence Bay, who

527
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: is the chief curator at the museum, is Indian American

528
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: actor Eric alvary Oh did Fear, who plays r Def Bay,

529
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Speaker 1: is Israeli. The guy who plays Seti, the Pharaoh at

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00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: the beginning of the film is also Israeli. Aaron a

531
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: pal uh Imhotep is played by South African dude, and

532
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: the next Suna Moon is played by Petrist Velasquez, who

533
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: is Venezuelan. I always wonder if it were happening today,

534
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Speaker 1: would I get the part, Vassilo told Entertainment Weekly in

535
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I mean, here, I am white, South African.

536
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: They'd probably cast a real Egyptian. Omid Jali, who plays

537
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: the warden, is one of the only who brings up

538
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: having any sensitivities around this. At the time, he told

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00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: e W I have an Iranian background, so I was

540
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: very aware that if I ever did film roles, I

541
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: had to represent Middle Eastern culture. This was at a

542
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: time when there were very few Middle Eastern roles at

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Speaker 1: all that weren't terrorists. Steve said, we're looking for kind

544
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: of riff key from Midnight Express, and that was a

545
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: Turkish warden who was really evil. I said, look, why

546
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: don't we play him differently, because, with all due respect

547
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: to you, what you've written is not even one dimensional.

548
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: I can possibly get this to a two dimensional stereotype,

549
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: which is a great line. So I did this piece

550
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: to the camera. It had nothing to do with the script,

551
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: and he said, that's great. Does it have to be

552
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: so funny? And I said, the only way I can

553
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: do this without being lynched by my own people is

554
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: to make it slightly humorous. Uh not. A lot of

555
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: reviews pointed this out at the time. Um Ciskel and

556
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: Ebert had a guest reviewer named David Anson on the

557
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: show who said the error bashing of this movie is

558
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: quote kind of unforgivable, adding that it was evidence of

559
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: the kind of condescension and contempt that Hollywood would not

560
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: dare with any other group. Though uh Cisco nib ultimately

561
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: both gave it thumbs up. In his New Yorker review,

562
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Lane claimed that he could scarcely believe what he

563
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: was seeing, suggesting a party game for Hollywood producers that reads,

564
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: try replacing one submitted group with another Jews instead of Arabs,

565
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: and then listened for the laugh okay bud Uh. Former

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Speaker 1: Associated Press writer Michael Hoffman called it a racist masterpiece

567
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: and a consummate example of bigotry that depicts Arab characters

568
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: as either filthy, greedy, slimy pigs or mindless, murderous zombies.

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Speaker 1: And Raina Shannawani at Cornell University directly wrote universal and

570
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: got the response from them, the Mummy is escapist entertainment

571
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Speaker 1: and as such is not intended in any way to

572
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Speaker 1: be perceived as a realistic depiction of any group of people.

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Speaker 1: Or is I like to call it the Aladdin excuse? Oh?

574
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Speaker 1: You think they would have learned a lesson from the

575
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: backlash from Aladdin? Do you would? You? The real monster

576
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: of this story, though, was shooting on location at the

577
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Speaker 1: time that The Mommy was being produced. At the time

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00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: the Momy was being produced Egypt. Politically, real monster was

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Speaker 1: us in the sun. Shooting Uh in Cairo at the

580
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: time would have been a difficult because the city is

581
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: modern uh, you know, it had been modernized and didn't

582
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: have the requisite looks, and also because of the political

583
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: instability in Egypt at the time, it would have not

584
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: made sense for them to shoot it there. Uh. And

585
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: so they shot the city scenes in Marrakesh, which was

586
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: easier for them to kind of fake being in the twenties,

587
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: although they did have to rip down a bunch of

588
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: street lights and power poles and stuff. Uh. And then

589
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: also in the Sahara Desert, where the set of Habanaptra

590
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: was built in a dormant volcano. On the film's production

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00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: blog on the official site, Summers said, a city hidden

592
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: in the crater of an extinct volcano made perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: Out in the middle of the desert. You would never

594
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Speaker 1: see it. You would never even think of it during

595
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: the crater unless you knew it was inside that volcano.

596
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: They built the Homonacha set out there over the course

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00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: of sixteen weeks, which included columns that were rigged to

598
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Speaker 1: collapse at the climactic moment. But as if building all

599
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: of this wasn't enough, they also had to house and

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00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: feed a cast and crew of over eight hundred people,

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Speaker 1: including two hundred Torregg horse riders. Uh. And this is

602
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: a outside of the tiny village of air Food, which

603
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: was like not even a tourist destination at the time. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Fortunately they had an expert in the form of co

605
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: producer Patricia Carr, who had extensive remote location shooting. She

606
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: had done work on Return of the Jedi, which was

607
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: wasn't the Star Wars. They were filmed in Tunisia. I

608
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: want to say Raiders are the Lost Arc Temple of Doom. Uh.

609
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Speaker 1: She said. We had to do a great amount of

610
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Speaker 1: work in a relatively small amount of time, but after

611
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: meeting with local city officials, we were able to get

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00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: medical cover in place, as well as arrange all the

613
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: catering and transportation and have everything completed in record time.

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00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: Summer's told w it was a British crew and I

615
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: was this young American and everyone was like, who is

616
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: this guy, and not in a good way. I told

617
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: everybody we have a six week shoot in Morocco. They

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00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: looked at the pages. Cinematographer Adrian Biddle, the camera crew

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Speaker 1: in the grips, I think they thought, there's no way

620
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: in hell we're getting out of here in six weeks.

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Speaker 1: The temperature during the hottest part in the day went

622
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Speaker 1: up to a hundred and thirty degrees and the local

623
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Speaker 1: flora and fauna made shooting an absolute nightmare. Josh Hannah,

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Speaker 1: who played Evie's brother in the movie, said the biggest

625
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: challenge was maintaining the energy level right up to the

626
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: start of the scene. It was really hot out there,

627
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: and the snakes and scorpions and the spiders made it

628
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: difficult to keep focused and your enthusiasm. And Brendan Fraser

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Speaker 1: told e W. We got a lot of B twelve

630
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Speaker 1: shots in the ass, whether we wanted them or not. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's being involuntarily given a B twelve shot.

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Speaker 1: They just sneak up behind you other like and I

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Speaker 1: guess production created a special beverage that everyone drank every

634
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: two hours the battle of the dehydration. The crew would

635
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: often begin their days shooting in the desert at two

636
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning to get the first rays of

637
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: the morning light, and they'd work until midday when it

638
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: became too hot and not to mention, you know, the

639
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: sun making it way too blinding to shoot before picking

640
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: back up again in the evening. When did these guys sleep?

641
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: Were it cooled down enough? They sent out a memo.

642
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: Brendan Frazier's great line to the e W. They send

643
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: out a memo describing a type of snake and fun fact,

644
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: forever shooting a movie and you get a memo about

645
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: the type of snake. Maybe it's not your kind of movie.

646
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: I think it had yellow dots on it, he continued.

647
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: They said, if you see this kind of snake, do

648
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Speaker 1: not go near it because if it bites you, at

649
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: best they'll amputate your limb. Anyway, there I was pissing

650
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: down a rock and I looked down and there's the

651
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: yellow dots snake. I was like, I just ran for it.

652
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't like to hear how miserable brend Of Fraser

653
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Speaker 1: was during the production of this movie. The number of

654
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: times he almost died. Yeah, yeah, but worth it. Yeah.

655
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Speaker 1: Rachel Vice told the Birmingham Post. Quite a few people

656
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Speaker 1: were airlifted out after they've been bitten by scorpions. They

657
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: used to have a scorpion wrangler who we collect them

658
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: an empty avion bottles and then shake them in front

659
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Speaker 1: of your face, going look what we found. Fortunately, she explained,

660
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Speaker 1: there was the scene in which a rat runs over

661
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Speaker 1: while she's tied to an altar. The rat was a

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Speaker 1: professional actor racked now professional after frat they have them

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Speaker 1: they're sag I'm uh not a wild rat. And that

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Speaker 1: scene apparently it took nine days to film because of

665
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Speaker 1: the amount of effects in it, which meant Rachel Weiss

666
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: was strapped to that altar for a long time. Let's

667
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: put it that way. The scare of beatles they keep

668
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: popping up are actually a composite of several real insects.

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Speaker 1: But the sound, though, it's the rainstick, which is charming, charming,

670
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: low tech kindergarten music class of them. Yes, they use

671
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: rubber ones as stand ins on the set though, thankfully,

672
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: and not real life insects. This amazing behind the scenes

673
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Speaker 1: thing where they show how they did the um the

674
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Speaker 1: shot of when they mummify him Hotep at the beginning

675
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: and they pour all the scarabs into his coffin, and

676
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: before they're showing how they composited it right where they

677
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: have like first like him and then a CG version

678
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: of him that's being layered by computers. And in the end,

679
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: in the bare bones version, they just dump this thing

680
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: like the big thing out over him and it's like

681
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: three or four rubber bugs full out. It's so underwhelming,

682
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: but he's still like squirming around in the mummy rappings,

683
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: like his eyes wide with tear. They actually wrapped him

684
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Speaker 1: up in that. That's not a stunned person arnoldus really

685
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Speaker 1: what the extra mile after being body shamed and shaved

686
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Speaker 1: to day every day. Now we've gotta talk about the camels,

687
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: which all the actors apparently hated. According to the film's

688
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: commentary track, Kevin J. O'Connor, who plays Benny, said that

689
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Speaker 1: his camel took a special disliking to him and O'Connor,

690
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: who had worked with Stephen Summers on Deep Impact Is

691
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Speaker 1: Really one of the film's m v ps. He had

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Speaker 1: lived multiple lines, including the I love the whole wall

693
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Speaker 1: of sand trick. You have to do it. In his

694
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Speaker 1: weird voice, he did, I love the whole wall of

695
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Speaker 1: sand trick the other one and he's like when Rick's

696
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Speaker 1: beating up my little buddy Benny, when Rick peats him off,

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Speaker 1: and he's he's like, please think of my children, And

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Speaker 1: you don't have any children. The line he had lived

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Speaker 1: some day I might by Oh God, all looks like

700
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: I've got all the horses. Hey, Betty, looks like you're

701
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of the river. Yeah, movies. Movie

702
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: is great. We didn't like the Mummy, I guess. He

703
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: specifically asked the costume department for pants that didn't fit

704
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: any grew a pencil mustache just to make him look

705
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: even more ridiculous. That lie. I have never laughed maybe

706
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: as hard as ever in that movie when he's he's

707
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Speaker 1: being approached by the Mummy and he starts praying, and

708
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: then he rips open his shirt and he's got religious

709
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: icons from every religion, starts reciting prayers in like like

710
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Speaker 1: Mongolian and ancient Hebrew. So good. But back to the

711
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Onset miseries. There were also sandstorms that would blow up

712
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: and wreck equipment, hurling sand around with enough worse to

713
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: strip the paint off of trailers. Imagine what that does

714
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: your skin, as well as other human threats. Brandon Fraser

715
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: totally w Jim Jacks. The producers said, I took out

716
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: million dollar kidnapping insurance policies on you. We were like, so, basically,

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00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: you put a bounty on our head. He's like, that's

718
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: one way of looking at it. I'll never forget. Kevin

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Speaker 1: j O'Connor goes, how much insurance did you take out

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Speaker 1: on me? Fifty thousand? That should do it was the reply.

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Speaker 1: He didn't tell them that until after they were done filming. Either.

722
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Speaker 1: They were like, I guess all like that sitting around

723
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: talking about how about the shooting, and Stephen Summers like, yeah,

724
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Speaker 1: I had to take out kidnapping insurance on you guys.

725
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: But thankfully the film had the support of the Royal

726
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Speaker 1: Moroccan Army, presumably to guard against any near do wells

727
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to kidnap their star. Yeah, you know,

728
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: it's good to have an army. Well, whence when's it?

729
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: When's that never backfired? Yeah? Most of the cast and

730
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: the Mummy excuse me, most of the cast in The

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Speaker 1: Mummy nine, I should say, did their own stunts, including

732
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Speaker 1: Rachel Weiss, who revealed to the Birmingham Post that there

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Speaker 1: was quote one bad one where I had to turn

734
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Speaker 1: around to shoot a rider on a horse. He was

735
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Speaker 1: on a pully that yanked him off and he broke

736
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Speaker 1: both his arms. They still used the shot, though this

737
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: is not a charitable indicit vice has scene in which

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Speaker 1: the library shelves topple over was achieved by spinning a

739
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: single camera around three sixty degrees in one take, which

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Speaker 1: meant Weiss had the duck out of its line of

741
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Speaker 1: sight as the whole thing happened and pop back up

742
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Speaker 1: at the end, which is risky. There were twelve thousand

743
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: books on those shelves, and the whole thing had to

744
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: be done in one take because it would have taken

745
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: another complete day. This is set up the shot you

746
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: know that scene right the Domino, the Domino library scene.

747
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: That is wild. That is I think I always assumed

748
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: I was computers. I had no idea that was for real. Yeah,

749
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: it's the only thing about that that's aged poorly, is

750
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Speaker 1: they when they do they go to a wide shot

751
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: of her on the ladder. Balancing between the two shows

752
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: is very clearly not a particularly slight man in a

753
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Speaker 1: wig and address. But yeah, all those shows man one

754
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: take Wow and well, the exterior of the Museum of

755
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: Antiquities in Cairo is actually in Marrakech. Its interiors that

756
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: of the meant More Towers and the village of meant Moore,

757
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: buckingham shere, England, built in the eighteen fifties for the

758
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Speaker 1: Rothchild family. That Rothchild family. Wow. The house was seen

759
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: also in Terry Gilliams, Brazil. All that makes sense, and

760
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: its exteriors used the Sandy Kubick's Wise Wide Shut and

761
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: perhaps most famously, it's the Wayne Manner and Christopher Nolan's

762
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Batman begins, it's our second nice wide shot wife referenced

763
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: this episode. One of the sad things that Brendan Fraser

764
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: has talked about recently is how these movies destroyed his body.

765
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: By the time he was filming the third one, he

766
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: told g Q, I was put together with tape and ice.

767
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: I just got like really nerdy and fetishousy about ice packs,

768
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: screw cap ice packs and downhill mountain biking paths because

769
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: they're small in their light, they could fit under your clothes.

770
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: I was building an exoskeleton for myself daily. He needed

771
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: back surgery twice. He had a lambin ectomy which didn't

772
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: fix his lumbar spine, so he had to have it again,

773
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: needed a partial need replacement. He had to have spinal

774
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Speaker 1: pads fused together, and he needed to have his vocal

775
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: cords repaired, which I don't even know how you do that.

776
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 1: I guess just yelling and now. And then of course

777
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: he almost died making this film. In the scene where

778
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: his character is hung at the prison, uh he you know.

779
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: In I think the the urban legend started in this basically.

780
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: I think with that Birmingham Post interview that that Rachel

781
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: Vice gave she was one of the first people who

782
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: talked about it, but in twenty nineteen he gave a

783
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: very detailed explanation. Um he was saying that. He said,

784
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Speaker 1: I did get fully choked out. It was scary, and

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00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: then E. W. Immediately cuts to Stephen Summers, who says

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Speaker 1: it was Brendan's fault. Uh. Fraser explained, there was a

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00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: hangman's gallows and there was a hemp rope tied into

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Speaker 1: a noose placed around my neck. The first take, I'm

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00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: doing my best choking acting. Steve says, can we go

790
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: for another one and take up the tension on your rope?

791
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: I said, all right, one more, one more take, because

792
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: a noose around your neck is going to choke you

793
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: in the arteries no matter what. I remember seeing the

794
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: camera start to pan around and then it was like

795
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: a black iris. At the end of the silent film,

796
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: he's talking about going unconscious. I regained consciousness to one

797
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: of the E M T s saying my name, there

798
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: was gravel in my ear. Oh. Compounding this is the

799
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Speaker 1: fact that the rest of this cast all said that

800
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Summers would say the same thing before every take, which

801
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: was ready, don't suck act shin. So that was the

802
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: last thing Brendan Fraser heard before he almost choked to death.

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Speaker 1: Uh memories. As you meditate on that, We'll be right

804
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: back with more too much information. After these messages, production

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00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: picked up at Shepperdton Studios in England for the interiors,

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00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: with some exteriors shot not and about in the UK.

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Speaker 1: For example, the scene that is supposed to take place

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Speaker 1: on the Nile was actually the Thames. The port of

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00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: Giza where they all board the ship was a massive

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Speaker 1: set built at the historic dockyard in Chatham, about thirty

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Speaker 1: five miles southeast of London and Kent, has also been

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Speaker 1: seen in Leams and Guy Richie's Sherlock Holmes. The set

813
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: they built was six hundred feet in length to portray

814
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: the dockyard area. It had a steam train attraction engine,

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Speaker 1: three cranes, an open two horse carriage, four horse drawn carts,

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Speaker 1: five dressing horses with grooms, nine pack donkeys and mules,

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Speaker 1: as well as a market, stalls and for vendors. This

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Speaker 1: whole thing eventually was filmed with three hundred extras in it.

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Speaker 1: Um Steven Summers said in the DVD commentary that some

820
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Speaker 1: of the extras local extras they picked up were not

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Speaker 1: particularly experienced in the film industry. There's a scene in

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Speaker 1: which one of the gentleman's eyes had to be c

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Speaker 1: g I closed because he couldn't stop looking directly into

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Speaker 1: the camera at every take and they just got tired

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Speaker 1: of reshooting it. They also had to c g I

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Speaker 1: some of rachel Vices parts away because her white nightgown

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Speaker 1: got wet and they had to preserve a p G

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Speaker 1: three teen rating. But the biggest challenge for this stage

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Speaker 1: production was I l M S motion capture work. UM

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Speaker 1: Industrial Light and Magic was working on this and The

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Speaker 1: Star Wars The Phantom Menace at the same time. Ah

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Speaker 1: there was a VFX supervisor there named John Burton, who

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Speaker 1: Somers had worked with on Deep Rising, and they basically

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Speaker 1: planned out their vision of u Demotepe in the mom

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Speaker 1: of the character of the Mummy. They said they didn't

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Speaker 1: want the guy in bandages, so they wanted him to

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Speaker 1: be a corpse, or first they wanted him as a human,

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Speaker 1: and then a full corpse, and then a human again

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Speaker 1: with all the stages in between. And so they planned

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Speaker 1: these five stages of him as fully human, gross mummy,

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Speaker 1: and then just sort of a guy who you can

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Speaker 1: see his guts. Uh. We wanted to create a photo

843
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Speaker 1: realistic living corpse that was obviously not a man in

844
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: a suit, obviously not an animatronic, and obviously alive. Burton

845
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: told Cina fantastique, and they were constantly walking the line

846
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: and doing these character creations of something that was creepy

847
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: but not gory because they had this PG three team

848
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: rating in mind the whole time, so he couldn't be

849
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: bloody or like obviously gooey, so they were like, well,

850
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: he's got to be desiccated, but we still need to

851
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: see his guts. And this concept would be fleshed out

852
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: pun intended by Burton, along with a team of nearly

853
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: one hundred artists, took them five months of research and development,

854
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: two months of shooting, and then ten months of post

855
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: production VFX work. The technology that they used to motion

856
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: capture and replace the parts of Arnold Voslo's body was

857
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: a refinement of some of the technology that they used

858
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: on The Phantom Menace, but on that film they were

859
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: using it to replace a character's entire head. I'm pretty

860
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: sure it was jar jar um, not just portions of

861
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: their face. So what they basically had to do was

862
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: create prosthetics for him that would motion capture parts of

863
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: his face, but they had to be applicable as makeup

864
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: and let him act through it. So they had to

865
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: create like these led should capture things but still and

866
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: and all that technology, but it had to be like

867
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: two millimeters thick arnive. Also, his entire body I believe

868
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: probably hairless at this point, was laser scanned. Uh. And

869
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: then they also had to do the classic plaster cast

870
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: thing to get to get his torso and head captured

871
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: some of his mummy powers like the dust storms and

872
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: and and the plagues that he summons. Our particle tech

873
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: like particle animation stuff that I l M had developed

874
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: for Twister, which is really funny, um, but others were

875
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: much more low tech. The hail storm is dog food

876
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: painted white and belted at the cast. The boils and sores,

877
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: though the plague of boils and sores were those were prosthetics. UM.

878
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: A six person makeup crew applied one and forty seven

879
00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: prosthetics two extras in three hours, which is some thing

880
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: like one at the rate of seven and a half minutes.

881
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: They crunched the numbers in Sinda fantastique, which thankfully they

882
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: shot that at night, so they didn't have to deal

883
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: with that doing that in a hundred thirty degree temperatures.

884
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: Another fun thing that I l M was tasked with

885
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: was creating digital gunfire because I guess maintaining all the

886
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: prop guns in this heat and sand was such a

887
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: nightmare that at some point while they were shooting, they

888
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: were like, uh, yeah, just to have I l M

889
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: digitalized all the gunshots. Later um for Frasier's big fight

890
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: with the mummy, the soldier mummies at the end, that's

891
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: the scene that Rachel Weiss is strapped to the altar

892
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: for nine days at a clip. That was because basically

893
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: they had a motion capture camera that he told Entertainment

894
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: Weekly was the size of a very large industrial refrigerator

895
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: that was on rails and programmed to make the same

896
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: set of moves take after takeofter take. Uh. And he

897
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: had to learn all of his choreography for that fight

898
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: scene where he's like chopping mummies in half and like

899
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: batting their heads around like baseballs. Um, he had to

900
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: do all of that himself over and over and over again,

901
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: and he had to learn that in two days. He

902
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: said it on the on the commentary track. It's he said,

903
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: it's one big mind fight with Rachel and I and

904
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: we ended up doing it all in one take. And

905
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: the compositing technology that they were doing at this point

906
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: is really really interesting. Um, they basically built all of

907
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: these creations like real humans. Like. They built them with

908
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: skeletons first and then animated the musculature over it. Um.

909
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: The mummies in that scene are supposed to look like

910
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties, like universal mummies. They're supposed to be

911
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: like dusty and raggedy. So they did uh, wire frame

912
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: versions of their skeletons, and then another layer of all

913
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: their clothing, and then the third layer of this particle

914
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: technology to get the dust that's flying off of them. Um.

915
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: Really wild. One thing that I've been unable to confirm

916
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: but that could be accurate is that mummies from Toby

917
00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: Hooper's movie Life Force were reused. In Life Force is

918
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: about a movie about a sexy space vampire lady who

919
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: drains the titular life force from people and and and

920
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: leaves them as um like desiccated corpses. It was like

921
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: digital media. Ah heyo, Uh, this is where you do

922
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: your golf swing anyway. Yeah, that movie was shot in England,

923
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: so possibly some of it at Shepperton, so that sounds

924
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: plausible to me, but confirmed by the BBC of all people.

925
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: In one of the shots in this film, you can

926
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: see an extra wearing the robe that Sir Alec Guinness

927
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: war as Obi Wan Kenobi in Star Wars A New

928
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: hope that you know what I have to say about

929
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: that it does belong in. I believe it is in

930
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: a museum because what happened was they after they filmed it,

931
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: because no one thought. No one knew that first Star

932
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: Wars was gonna be a hit, so they just sent

933
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: all this stuff back to the costumer called Burman's at

934
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: the time, and since they didn't, he didn't by the

935
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: time he was a forced ghost in the next ones,

936
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: they just found a different cloak for him because they

937
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: didn't need the same one, so this cloak kept getting

938
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: loaned out to other movies there. The BBC article says

939
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: it may have also been in um Uh in the

940
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: Name of the Rose starring Sean Connery, because it was

941
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: labeled as like a monk's robe. And then that company, Burman's,

942
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: was bought by another company called Angels, and all of

943
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: their costumes were moved from Camden to Herndon, but this

944
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: stuff just kept getting loaned out, and then finally in

945
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: two thousand five they identified it as Sir Alec Guinness's

946
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: Obi Wan cloak and took it out of active circulation

947
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: and put it in a museum. I am reasonably sure

948
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: that the Beatles got their Sergeant Pepper outfits from Burman's. Okay,

949
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: I believe you. I think that's right. That's off top

950
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: of my head. That fits right. The original spokeswoman for

951
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: the costumer said that an original person original costumer verified

952
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: it was the same cloak. One of the guys was

953
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: sorting through this pile of monks robes and saw this

954
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: brown one with an odd shaped hood. He put it

955
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: on and the manager said, oh my god, it's Alec

956
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Gits his cloak from Star Wars. All this time we've

957
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: been renting it out to customers wanting to hire a

958
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: monk's outfit for a fancy dress party. So it's probably

959
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: has like smudges of MS on it from some like,

960
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: and it's in the Mummy in one shot one crowd

961
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: shot in the Mummy. Yeah. I was on display at

962
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: Herod's after they found it Angels. The costumer has had

963
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: an auction in two thousand seventeen, and you know what

964
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: it went for? Okay, I mean we wan Kenobi's robe.

965
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's got to be I'm gonna say like

966
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: one point two million. Oh so far over, I'm so sorry,

967
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: really just over a hundred thousand? What do you know?

968
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: How much like v prop though? Also well, also at

969
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: this auction Sean Connery's dinner jacket from Thunderball. I mean,

970
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like that's not of the

971
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: Connery bonds. That's like not one of the bigger ones.

972
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean fifty six thousand close seven? Uh, the hat

973
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: and suit he wore in Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade.

974
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: What do you think that went for? Um, I'm gonna

975
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: say forty six Thousanday? In two thousand six, what do

976
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: you think that Givon Si dress worn by Audrey Heppurn

977
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: and Breakfast at Tiffany's went for in the opening scene

978
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: she's eating the Danish in front of Tiffany's oh Man.

979
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: In two thousands six, I'm gonna say thousand. Good thing

980
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: you're not doing this nine hundred grand. I can't believe

981
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: that's sold that much more than Alec And this is

982
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: Obi wan Kenobi robe. What can I say? There you go,

983
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: there's your there's your auction auction corner, t m I

984
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: auction corner. Yeah. Anyway, Sorry, I didn't mean to cut

985
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: you off talking about the historical accuracies of inaccuracies of

986
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: the Mummy. Mummy ninety nine. Excuse me because we didn't

987
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: do Mummy thirty two or Mummy Mummy seventeen. Well, folks,

988
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: January was Titanic month. February is Mummy Month here on

989
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: t m I. We're gonna do every Mummy movie to

990
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: a week the rest of this month. It's a short month,

991
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: but damn it, we're gonna make it count anyway. This

992
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: brings us to the most important question in this episode.

993
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: How historically accurate is the Mummy? Well, perhaps unsurprisingly not

994
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: very for starters. The film opens with a panoramic view

995
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: of the Pyramids and Giza, featuring the Sphinx on their construction,

996
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: so the narration refers to Thebes City of the Living,

997
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: which is actually several hundred miles away. Also, city's royal

998
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: palace is in the film located next to the Pyramids,

999
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: but considering the modern conception of the Pyramids is basically

1000
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: giant cemeteries. Palaces wouldn't have been anywhere near them. You're

1001
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: an egyptologist, can you confirm that. I'm not a huge expert.

1002
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: I just I think that's true though. Yeah, that sounds right,

1003
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: uh Hamadopta. The City of the Dead in the movie

1004
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: in the burial place of the Pharaohs was actually not real.

1005
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: The city of the Dead would probably be more akin

1006
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: to the Valley of the King's where you know a

1007
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: lot of the famous mummies have been found. And Imhotep,

1008
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: the real person, was not a high priest, but was

1009
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: actually the architect under the pharaoh. Jo's er, I think

1010
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: that's how you say that Set the first, the pharaoh

1011
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: he betrays at the beginning of the film actually ruled

1012
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: around b c E, which is actually about years after

1013
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: im Hotep died, so they never overlapped. And as Sunaman

1014
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: comes from Aksunmun, as he says it in the film Moons,

1015
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Suna Moon comes from a similarly named person. A similarly

1016
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: named person I can't pronounce who was the wife of

1017
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: Tutonka Moon or King tut from the late fourteenth century BC,

1018
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: but both she and im Hotep are taken directly from

1019
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: the two film Mummy, better known as Mummy thirty two. Now,

1020
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: certain mummification details in The Mummy are incorrect. There's no

1021
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: such ritual as the Home Die. The horrifying faith that

1022
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 1: him Hotep suffers in the film remind us what home

1023
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: die is. Uh. They cut out his tongue, wrap him up,

1024
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: and pour the scarabs over him, and then they chisel

1025
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: the Uh. They supposedly chiseled the blessings off the outside

1026
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: of the sarcophagus, which damns him in both life and

1027
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: the afterlife. Although you know that's a bit of a

1028
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: plot hole because if they ripped his tongue out with

1029
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: hot pincers, he couldn't speak as the Mummy, and he

1030
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: talks a lot. He's a talks He's a real talker.

1031
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: Emotep was his bits dying, keep going. No, I was trying.

1032
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a find a joke. There's not

1033
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: there's not been there. Uh. The canopic jars containing him

1034
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: Hotep's organs are somewhat accurate to the actual momification process

1035
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: where they would remove uh what was it, lungs liver. Oh,

1036
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: you wrote it down, lungs liver and testines and stomachs,

1037
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: also known as a divorce. It's good, that's good. They

1038
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: would not have removed the heart from the body because

1039
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: weighing the heart, overseen by the god Anibus, was an

1040
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: important part of the path to the afterlife, so they

1041
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: kept the heart in the body. The Ancian agypsist believed

1042
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: that the heart recorded all the good and all of

1043
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: the bad deeds of a person's lives, what like a

1044
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: a person's inner black box if you will, or your

1045
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: browser history are your browser history, and this was needed

1046
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: for judgment in the afterlife. After person died, the heart

1047
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: was weighed against the feather of Mott, the goddess of

1048
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: truth and justice, and the scales were watched by Anubis,

1049
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: the jackal headed god of embalming, and the results were

1050
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: recorded by Thoth, the ibbisheaded god of writing. And if

1051
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Speaker 1: a person had led a decent life, the heart balanced

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01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: with the feather and the person was rendered worthy to

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01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: live forever in paradise with Osiris. However, the heart was

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01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: heavier than the feather. The mystical creature Ammet, which is

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01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: part lyon part crocodile and part hippopotamus, devours them. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good myth. I was always more of a

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: Greek and Roman guy than but I love the animal gods.

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01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: I love the animal headed gods. It's a it's a

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01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: good it's a good conceit. They have had cooler momnsters,

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: you know. I like minyturs, I like hydras. I like, uh,

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01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: what's the one with like Griffin's Greek like. I just

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01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: like monsters. They cool. They cool monsters. But you know

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01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: Anubis mummies. Uh, there's also Artist Bay, who is the

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01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: super hot goth guy with the face tattoos. That funny

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: fun fact, Artist Bay is what Boris Karlov's character goes

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: by in the Original Mummy. It's he's like human alias.

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01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: That's what Emo teps fake name. It's an anagram for

1068
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: death by raw. Isn't that cool? And that's spooky who anyway,

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01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's he's a member of the secret Society

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Speaker 1: of the Medgi, who are devoted to preventing Imo Teps return.

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01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: That they were a real group, they were. They appear

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01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: in Egyptian archaeological records from the Middle Kingdom to the

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01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: Early New Kingdom era um. Some records suggest that they

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01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: might have been mercenary ease other than they were basically

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: like pastoral itinerant farmers, but they were a real group

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: um and by the time of the New Kingdom they

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01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: were in charge of protecting the royal tombs, so that

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01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: was somewhat accurate. The guy uh that the hot dude

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: playing uh our des Bay did fair who's later induced

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01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: bigelow male gigglo, right, I think he's the like training

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01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: gigglow who trains s Douce Biggelow. I'm pretty sure we

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01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: double check that ah. I was close. He's induced Biggelow

1083
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: European giggolo. The second one really gotta get your deuced bigelows.

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01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: We pride ourselves on accuracy on the show, and if

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01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: you can't get your duced bigelows right, you lose the

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01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: trust of the audience. So that the forehead tattoo that

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01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: he has is actually Egyptian characters that transliterate to Imhotep

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01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: the letters of his name, and across his cheek Uh

1089
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: is a word that's mot which it translates to like

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01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: truth or justice or something. So those are real Egyptian

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01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: characters that he has tattooed. And apparently Stephen Summers was

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: like um. He wanted him to be completely covered like

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01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: head to toe and tattoos, and then was like, I

1094
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: gotta look at him, and was like, well, I cannot,

1095
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: I can't throw soup on this mona Lisa I am.

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01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: And there are there are, there's a lot of facial

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01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: tattooing that happens in that part of the world, the

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: Berbers different places in Algeria, but you see it actually

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01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: a lot more with women tribeswomen or have facial tattoos,

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01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: but the Medgi did not, So that's a w. And lastly,

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01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: there is no such thing as an actual bound copy

1102
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: of the Book of the Dead. That is a cinematic conflation.

1103
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: Probably has something to do with the necronomicon, like the

1104
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: Book of the Dead from the Evil Dead movies. UM.

1105
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: The closest thing to that would have been a series

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01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: of texts that were found written down a bunch of

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: different tombs, um. But they were more of a They

1108
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: were a series of of guidances to people who who

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01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: had died. It was essentially the handbook for the recently

1110
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: deceased from beetlejuice that they buried people with. They were

1111
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't like how to raise the dead, It was

1112
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: like Hey, since you're going to the eternal afterlife, here's

1113
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: all the stuff that you're gonna need. We're gonna write

1114
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: it down and bury you with it. So I mean.

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: The Beatles song, the last track on Revolver Tomorrow Never Knows,

1116
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: was based on a book, The Psychedelic Experienced by Timothy

1117
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 1: Leary that was based on Spettan Book of the Dead.

1118
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: You know, turn off your mind like stream, it's kind

1119
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: of traces its origins back roughly to this type of thing. Yeah,

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01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: it's Buddhist versus you know, different, but but sure wedge

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01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: the Beatles in there. Yeah, I need that. Let me

1122
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: have this. Sorry, so mean you. We really should have

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01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: been reading a lot of your section headings on this

1124
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: because they're they're very good. We've had h what's mum

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01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: got to do with it? The momsters? Uh, Mummy dearest?

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: Is my fav is too easy? Uh? Mom's the word

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: under wraps? Yeah, there's some really good ones. Now for

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01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: the ride out, we've got mom want did he did he? Mum?

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01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: Did he do? It's good? Thank you? All right, just

1130
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: a little treat for you. Yeah, I like that. I

1131
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: want everyone else to share. Test audiences did not respond

1132
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: well to Mummy nine, and they were put off by

1133
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 1: the vague title. What more do you need? It's descriptive. Yeah,

1134
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. The president of domestic marketing for Universal,

1135
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: Mark Smudger, told Entertainment Weekly at the time they saw

1136
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: it as ikey horror stuff, this musty old guy in bandages.

1137
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: We debated changing the name to Raiders of the Lost

1138
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: Mummy or something like that, presumably Stevens Pilvert, the season's assists,

1139
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: but in the end we decided to go with just

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: the Mummy. We decided we would redefine the myth with

1141
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: the film, which I would argue it did. The studio

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01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: sent cash into a Super Bowl ad, which Stephen Summers

1143
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: told DW helped drum up interest in the film, and

1144
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: the movie May release date up to give the film

1145
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: room against Star Wars the Phantom Menace, which it probably needed,

1146
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: and it worked. The Mummy was the number one film

1147
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: in the United States and Canada on its opening weekend,

1148
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: grossing forty three million dollars, the highest non holiday May

1149
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: opening and the ninth biggest opening of all time. Yeah,

1150
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: I remember this movie being huge. It went on to

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01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: gross over four hundred and sixteen point four million dollars

1152
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: worldwide and obviously spanned a franchise what two sequels plus

1153
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: the movie Two Scorpion Kings Three Scorpions, also an animated

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: TV show that I remember nothing about about that um

1155
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: it ran for two seasons. Alma Julie, who played the Warden,

1156
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: told e W. The Universal representatives said the film's opening

1157
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: was so strong it saved the studio. Universal had a

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: number of flops, and The Mummy literally saved the studio.

1159
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: I had some family who worked at Universal at the time,

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01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: and I confirmed this. I was I was gonna say,

1161
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: what did your aunt say about I don't remember any

1162
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: specifics beyond like, you know, thank god you're okay, because

1163
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: I remember Babe pigging the city being the bomb that

1164
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 1: it was, and I remember the the Rocky and Bullwinkle

1165
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: movie with Renee Russo and Bobby Baby right right right

1166
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: that bombed Dudley do right bombs. Yeah, they really went

1167
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: in with trying to do all that ward, all those

1168
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: g ward stuff. Yeah, precipitated. You know what it might

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: have been. I mean it might have been the flint

1170
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: Stones doing so well, although they did, you know what

1171
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: they did Viva Rock Vegas, which I went to see

1172
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: Amira of the head of Universal's house, and that was

1173
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: another bomb, But I think it was I think they

1174
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: really thought that if they just kept going hard on,

1175
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna get In the late eighties early nineties,

1176
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: they were revamping all the comic book superheroes and stuff,

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01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: and then they kind of moved into the more family

1178
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: friendly cartoon franchise, and I think they thought that they

1179
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: would finally find one that hit man. But back to

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01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: the Mummy's video release in September sold seven million units

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: on VHS and one million on DVD. Very early DVD,

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01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: I would imagine, became the year's best selling live action

1183
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: VHS and second best selling DVD behind the Matrix. And

1184
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: it was figures like those that help Universal gross over

1185
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: one billion dollars in home video sales that year. You

1186
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: know what the first movies released on DVD were? Oh? Man,

1187
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: I knew this trivia fact and I can't remember now.

1188
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 1: What is it? Twister? Oh? That wasn't what I thought.

1189
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: Would that have been Twister? Mars Attacks? That's in the US, though.

1190
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 1: Do you know what they were? In ninety six? No?

1191
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: In Japan? Blade Runner, the Arnold Schwartzeger movie, Eraser and

1192
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: The Fugitive oh To Harrison Forward movies first released on

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01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: DVD in History Good for Him. Uh. Critics didn't love Mummy,

1194
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: but mostly they agreed it was fun. Unsurprisingly, Roger Ebert

1195
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: had a great line, There's hardly a thing I can

1196
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: say in its favor except that I was cheered by

1197
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: nearly every minute of it. I cannot argue for the script,

1198
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: the direction, the action, or even the Mummy. But I

1199
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: can say that I was not bored, and sometimes I

1200
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: was unreasonably pleased. Mariah Lewis wrote it junkie in on paper.

1201
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: Nothing about the Mummy should have worked. It was an

1202
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: earnest action adventure movie in a decade when three films

1203
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: in that same genre had spectacularly failed back to back,

1204
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: The Rocketeer, The Shadow starring Alec Baldwin, and The Fan

1205
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: Him starring Billy Zane in do you remember any of those?

1206
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: You have to remember Rocketeer, I bet you like the Rocket, Yeah,

1207
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: I remember The Phantom because of Billy Zane. Yeah in

1208
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: his purple suit. Uh. She continued. The film rested on

1209
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: the shoulders of Brendon Frasier doing an Indiana Jones riff

1210
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: after a string of comedies where he played a variation

1211
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: of the dumb Blonde, and the filmmaker at the helm

1212
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 1: was a guy whose last flick was about a tentacled

1213
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: sea creature that eats a cruise ship. But the film

1214
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: spawned an empire continues to be beloved by people today.

1215
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: I found a Thrillist article from a few years back

1216
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: that said The Mummy is the only perfect film, um

1217
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: which you know, your mileage may vary. Obviously, I love it.

1218
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: I'll still go to bad for it. I'm glad people

1219
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: are coming back around on Brendan Fraser. I want to

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01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: give Roger Ebert, unsurprisingly the last word in this his

1221
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: from his review that I love that sums up the

1222
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: charms of this film. There is a little immaturity stuck

1223
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: away in the crannies of even the most judicious of us,

1224
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: and we should treasure it. That's beautiful. Hashtag Mummy. Folks,

1225
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. This has been too much information.

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01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: I'm Alex Hagel. I almost said I'm Brendan Fraser. I'm

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Speaker 1: Alex Brendan Fraser. Tonight, Heigel, you can be Brandon Fraser

1228
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: and I'm Jordan Brendan Frasier Rachel Weiss. All four of

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Speaker 1: us will catch you next time. Too Much Information was

1230
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. The show's executive producers

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01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,520
Speaker 1: are Noel Brown and Jordan run Talk. The show's supervising

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: producer is Michael Alder June. The show was researched, written,

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Speaker 1: and hosted by Jordan run Talk and Alex Hegel, with

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