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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama. Girl, drama girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: our comic girl Cheering for the Right drama Queen's go

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Speaker 1: Up girl fashion. But your tough girl, you can sit

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Speaker 1: with us. Girl drama Queens, drama, Queen's drama, Queen's drama, Drama,

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Speaker 1: Queen's drama Queens. Hey, al you, drama queens. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to your episode eleven one eleven. The Living Years not

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Speaker 1: a soul. It feels good in the Living Years. It

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Speaker 1: is the living here. That's why. Okay, the Eagles maybe

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Speaker 1: John Medley. Okay, anyway, listen, here's what happens in this episode. Um.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, unable to cope with the pressure from Dan,

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Speaker 1: Nathan quits the basketball team, while Peyton enjoys having her

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Speaker 1: to three very good actors playing father figures. To me,

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Speaker 1: played my birth dad years later. Um but in this

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Speaker 1: first introduction of Peyton's dad, uh, the character's name was

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Speaker 1: not originally Larry. The character's name was originally Glenn. But

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm that person that's been watching Dateline

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Speaker 1: It's a name I can say with like affection, like

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Speaker 1: It's like, like, Brooke Davis is enough. I think our

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Speaker 1: about it. I'm I'm horrifying embarrassing moments from I just realized,

425
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: you guys, I need to say this. So we threw

426
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: this party that got out of hand after I'm so

427
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: upset and and we got caught, and it was so sad,

428
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: and my mom really did me a solid and was like,

429
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: I tell your father he's going to kill you, which

430
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: honestly doesn't make sense. My dad's like a very sensitive artist.

431
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that would have happened. But my mom goes,

432
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell your dad, I found a packet

433
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: of cigarettes in your car and that's why you're grounded

434
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: for three weeks. And so, um, dad, you should probably

435
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: know that when I was a junior in high school,

436
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: we threw a ranger of an after prom party and

437
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: Mom and I lied to you about what. I don't

438
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: think he knows. I was realizing that in real time.

439
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: Um My, sweet dad, he cries every time he tells

440
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: me he's proud of me. Probably wouldn't have flipped out. Um,

441
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: but I I was today years old when I realized

442
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: I saw how a secret from him cigarettes my mom.

443
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: I was like, what, all right? Whatever my confessional moments, Um, okay,

444
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: how do we get back into the show right now?

445
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: My question is, Okay, So, Sophia, if your dad would

446
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: have been upset about you having this party like in

447
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: high school when we shot this, we're only like a

448
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: couple of years out of high school. We're like, you know,

449
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: three or four years out of high school. How did

450
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: your parents react all this like hot tub stuff, Like

451
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: they didn't understand that. They were like, this is what

452
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: is this? You know? I think it was just it

453
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: was always it was uncomfortable for for them, you know,

454
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: like as a kid, I don't know, I don't think

455
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: any of us or anyone listening, like, you don't want

456
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: to see your parents have sex. And I don't think

457
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: parents want to think about their kids having sexy. It's

458
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: awkward when it comes on on a movie and you're

459
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: all sitting in the room together. It's just like man

460
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: and and you know, there's that probably points to the

461
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: fact that as a society. We need to grow up

462
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: a little bit and like get unashamed of our body's joy.

463
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: Teach a class um. You know what does it real quick?

464
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 1: I just showed Gust the Shining where you know, like

465
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: the hot naked woman in the bathtub gets out and

466
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: he's been a creep and they start kissing and then

467
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 1: her body he composes. So I just watched that with

468
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: Gus and he never wants to see a naked woman.

469
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: He's it, which is yeah, is going to fall apart

470
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: rot um, that'll do it. Yeah, that's the only sex

471
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: scene that's acceptable is when she turns into a corpse. Well,

472
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: and the irony that here we are, you know, talking

473
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: about like crazy teenage behavior which we were always modeling

474
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: on their show, and like everyone's flirting with everyone and

475
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: they recast your dad because apparently y'all were flirting and

476
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: there was no sexual energy. I don't see it. I mean,

477
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: maybe it'll come up in future episodes, but I didn't

478
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: clock it at all. You know who has real sexy energy?

479
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: And they have a scene in this episode and I

480
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, Deb and Keith talk like when

481
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: they're chatting, and he's like yes, said Nathan to talk

482
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: to me. I'm just like, isn't it a little one

483
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: of chemistry works? Because I do love Keith and Karen

484
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: and there's a there's a no like they know each

485
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: other and there's a warmth there and there's something familiar.

486
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: It's tender. But there was like some kind of heat,

487
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: some kind of energy between deb and Keith. I don't

488
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: know how. And interestingly, though, Craig is like a I

489
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: don't want to say he's a flirty person, but he

490
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: is a person who listens and he looks at you

491
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: when he's talking to you, and it feels nice. And

492
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: so his character like listens to the women. He listens

493
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: to Debb, he listens to Karen. He wants to tell

494
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: them both like you're a good mom, You're doing a

495
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: good job. He says the things that you want to hear.

496
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Lucas is copying that behavior and he's telling Brooke girl,

497
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: you are great, and he's telling Peyton like your art matters,

498
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, Like it's I don't know how intentional it is,

499
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: but it is a generational pattern that we're witnessing, except

500
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: that the way Lucas is doing it is I guess

501
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: the way a teenage boy would which is mimicking rather

502
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: than ah, I don't know what't to help me with

503
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: a vocabulary word of like he's mimicking Actually it's not

504
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: a coming from authentic place of really listening and caring.

505
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: I think he's the girl. Yeah, yeah, well it seems

506
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: like he wants to kiss all the girls, like, you know,

507
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: the the continuation of the way he shows up for

508
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Peyton and then the way he shows up for Brooke.

509
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me why Brooks says, I think

510
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: he's you know, when she says he's trying to have

511
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: it both ways, he's like he's basically trying to date

512
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: us both And when you watch it, you're like, yeah,

513
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: gud is Yeah, Yeah, for sure, he's configured. Probably the

514
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: most sixteen year old thing about Lucas. You know, they

515
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: like wrote the like I love books and I'm a

516
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: man and I'm the man of the house and I

517
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: think about things. But like ultimately, sixteen year old boys

518
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: want to get down with as many girls as they

519
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: can get down, you know, like it's just it's well, yeah,

520
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: I think foremost juven thing about the character is the

521
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: immaturity with his emotions. Yeah, and if he didn't have

522
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: that you'd probably be like this, this is not a

523
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: kid nod be James Vanderbeek, you know what I mean.

524
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: It's terrible for Brooke and Peyton, but it works really well,

525
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, for for a young boy. I like it

526
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: in the show too, because it's a good contrast with

527
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: where Nathan is at, having already experienced all of the

528
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: stuff that Lucas is just kind of walking into waiting

529
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 1: into the world. Nathan's already been through all that, so

530
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: now he's on this journey to self discovery, to discovering

531
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: how to be a better person in the world. He's

532
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: seeing Dan for who he is. He's really confused and

533
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: torn in so many directions, but he's learning how to

534
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: stand up for himself. I mean, I was just so

535
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: in love with the character of Nathan in this episode.

536
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: He really won my heart in a big way. I

537
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: was just proud of him. The way he walked away

538
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: from the two parents are about who's going to give

539
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: him a ride, and he's like, I'm I'm going to

540
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: take care of me, you know, setting his own boundaries.

541
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: It's pretty great. I loved it. I loved We were

542
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: watching the episode, you guys, and it was so cute.

543
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what scene it was, but a

544
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: scene with with with Nathan ended Enjoy You Go. I'm

545
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: team Nathan Man. Love it. It was so cute. The

546
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: Dan Scott I Love You only exists because of Nathan

547
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: asserting himself right. But was such a great piece of

548
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: acting from Paul, and it was shot so well. What

549
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: I loved, loved, loved about it is that it's super tight,

550
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: so it feels like a whisper and it's over Dan's

551
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: shoulder the French overs. It feels like I can't look

552
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: you in the eye when I say this, and and

553
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, normally when you shoot a scene, it's like

554
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: your master shot, which includes the whole set and all

555
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: the actors, big white shot, and then coverage coverage. You

556
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: get coverage to each character for them to use that

557
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: angle on Paul and do a whole camera setup for that.

558
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: That's secret special. I love you. Um, it was really

559
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: really good. That's good. Yeah, it's such good TV. And

560
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: the way Paul chose to play it, you know, saying

561
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: how much he cares about him no matter what he chooses.

562
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: He says these things and starts to cry, I mean,

563
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: his his tears in his eyes and the that pregnant

564
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: pause where he says all the validating things and that's

565
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: already so hard for him, and it's like he almost

566
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: chokes before he says I love you and he and

567
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: you're right, he can't look Nathan in the eye when

568
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: he does it. Oh, I mean, what a what a

569
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: vulnerable place for Paul to have gone as an actor.

570
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: What beautiful choices he made in that moment. Yeah, I agree,

571
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: there is such a bastard. And all the other scenes, well,

572
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm considering that. The scene starts, by the way, with

573
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Nathan coming in and saying, I'm really sorry for all

574
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: the stuff I've been pulling and Hillary, when we watched it,

575
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: you were like, he's apologizing to his abuser, and then

576
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: we get to the end of the scene and we're like,

577
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: oh man, Paul did really good. It's such a weird

578
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: thing when you're trying to observe the characters but you're

579
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: also watching your friends be incredible actors. Yeah, Tom Tom

580
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Wright did a great job directing this episode. I especially

581
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: loved the ending when we got to see everybody in

582
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: their own place of kind of feeling feeling out, their

583
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: own sense of loss, confusion, misplacement, um in the world,

584
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: and um, you know, hoping for hope. I felt like

585
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: we got a piece of all of that, which was

586
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: a tone that I think had been missing a little

587
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: bit from the last few episodes. I think we kind

588
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: of got away from that with all the drama, and

589
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: this episode seemed to come back to the heart the

590
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: core of what this show is about. It's not about

591
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: the drama. It's about the people well, and the and

592
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: the space for big feelings. I mean, even thinking about

593
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: the fact that it opens in the therapist's office, it's like,

594
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: this is going to be an episode where we really

595
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: excavate what's going on with everybody and it and it

596
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: rings true through the whole thing, and it's really good. Yeah,

597
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: I loved that. I want to talk about Jake Jagelski.

598
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: Let's talk about all the time. I mean, Jake Jagelski

599
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: is a really grounding character in this because he makes

600
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Lucas kind of cut the and he's got way bigger

601
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: things going on than anyone else. You know, like having

602
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: a child is such a major deal that it's like, oh,

603
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: your feelings got hurt by a boy. Cool story kid,

604
00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: you know. Um, I I loved working with Brian, like

605
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: it's not a secret that I was just like, oh

606
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: my god, he's along. Um, But to see him with

607
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: these scenes with the baby in this episode and bringing

608
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: her to practice, and the slow burn between Peyton and Jake,

609
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: she has not like, I mean, we see like little

610
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: twinkle in her eye, but Peyton has not been like

611
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: what's up, whereas so many other characters in our show

612
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: are just like I love you, like right away, like

613
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: the rush into relationships, like even Sophia. You were saying

614
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: when in the last episode when um, when Brooke shows

615
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: up and she's like, hi, boyfriend, and we're like, oh

616
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: were they like yeah, fine? Uh? The slow burn with

617
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: with Jake, I like, I'm slow to warm up in life.

618
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: It's good for pet. This is sort of what we

619
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: were talking about in the episode that we saw where

620
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: everybody was goading you and you kissed Lucas out of

621
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: almost and then suddenly you guys were in a bedroom

622
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: tearing each other's clothes off and he's telling you I

623
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: want everything with you, I want the whole fairy tale.

624
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: After like four episodes, it's just like, you know, I mean,

625
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: he just met you, man, what And this feels That's

626
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: what I was saying when we were watching. I get

627
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: such soul mate vibes from Jake and Peyton because he

628
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: is waiting for her. He gets it, and she's she

629
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: takes time and he takes time. He's got plenty of

630
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: going on too, And I just feel like it was

631
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: such a good match and I'm so mad that we

632
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: got robbed and we didn't get to see you guys

633
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: together forever. That's all I supposed to do in a

634
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: different movie. There was a movie that we were supposed

635
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: to do together years ago. Really, yes, something he did

636
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: and they like called to see if I could do it,

637
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: and I had, like, you know, I had a toddler

638
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: and Jeff was gone and I wasn't able to go

639
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: do it. But Greenberg is one of those people I've

640
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: gotten to work with so many of our friends doing

641
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: Christmas movies, you know, like Tyler and Buckley and you

642
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: know Antoine and Lee and all, you know, the whole

643
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: gang that. Um, I haven't gotten to work with Brian again,

644
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: and I would like to. That's going to give me

645
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: my my Peyton and Jake for life moment, and we

646
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: want to see that. You know What's funny though, like

647
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: when you point out how swiftly characters are, like all

648
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: of it. You've changed my life. You're changed three episodes. Yeah,

649
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: it's like, gee, this is a lot like pressure I love,

650
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: and I guess I'm like, oh, that's that's what I

651
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: relate to. Like the moment in the last episode at

652
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: the open mic night when there's just that beat between

653
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: Peyton and Jake and you like look at him. I'm like, Oh,

654
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: it's that's everything. And I'm like, I guess that's how

655
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: I flirt. I'm like hey, and then I don't talk

656
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm slow to do the warm up too.

657
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. Greenberg in real life was became like

658
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: a good friend in me season one because I had

659
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: gone through that breakup. I was like starting to date

660
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: someone knew I didn't have a car. He went car

661
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: shopping with me, and like I remember, we were like

662
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: looking at mountaineers like that. He was like, well, you

663
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: need is a mountaineer, Like, let's go look at Yeah.

664
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: I was like sure, Mr, I'm gonna get you in

665
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: my car. Cool. But then he became I had never

666
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: lived in l a and so he became the person

667
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: when we started to have to go out to l

668
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: A for press for the show that would like show

669
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: me where to eat dinner and like where to go

670
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: and you know that that same cool dude energy, like girl,

671
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not into you, but i'm your cool

672
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: guy friend. You know, Jake has that he's not looking

673
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: for a girlfriend. You know, everything's about the daughter and

674
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: his interests lie outside of I want to put my

675
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: tongue in that girl's mouth. That's that's a sense and

676
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: apart from the other boys, and we're like, wow, look

677
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: at that guy. And then it's like, oh man, the

678
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: bar is maybe not that high. He's high above it,

679
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: but I feel like the bar is kind of low.

680
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: Set your bars high, ladies, it's high school. It's listen.

681
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: I kissed so many people in high school and I

682
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: don't regret a bit of it. To kiss people, get

683
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: it out of your system. Oh man. When I lived

684
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: in New York after high school, I kissed so many

685
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: people so fun did of course, what's the best, Give

686
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: me the best New York City post high school? Kiss?

687
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, were you here? Like kiss me? I

688
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: told you about the guy that was it from from

689
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Juilliard that I you know, we were dancing around and

690
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: I was standing outside of his college dorm and he

691
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: like answered, I went back because I left something there,

692
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: and he answered the door shirtless, and then like I

693
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: was like, I'm dying right now, and then he he

694
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: hugged me and like my heart was pounding, and he goes,

695
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: your heart's pounding. Oh, it was very exciting. Um, but

696
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: I actually don't even remember if we kissed. Then I

697
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: think I ran away, like I always did it just

698
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm okay, well then just ran off,

699
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: but I did. I was dating a guy in New

700
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: York and I remember it was just like a dreary night.

701
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: We went to see some Beatles movie at like one

702
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: of those you know movie theaters underground that that played

703
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: old movies, like the Draft of Drafthouse or something, and

704
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: then um, yeah, I remember going outside and it was

705
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: like it was on the East Side and it was drizzly,

706
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: and we just kissed on a street corner and it

707
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: was so and by the way, this is somebody who

708
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: had been dating my roommate and then Candle I know,

709
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: and then he but this is the high school thing.

710
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'll read this is the same thing

711
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: that happened to the switcher who and then he was like,

712
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: I think I like your roommate instead, And I was like,

713
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if I Oh my god, I think

714
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: I was kind of like broken this love the switchero.

715
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm fine, it's fine, whatever, don't worry

716
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: about it. You know, I wasn't that into him anyway.

717
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: And then of course years later she was like that

718
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: wrecked me. I was like, I'm sorry, Oh god, We're

719
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: like what you said it is realistic. Just young and dumb,

720
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: and we don't understand our emotions and we don't have

721
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: anybody telling us what's so gay and what's okay. We're

722
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out, and they so badly

723
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: want to be okay with things to like be cool,

724
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, team player and team player. Here's the thing.

725
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: If you're young out there listening, we just need you

726
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: to go be as messy as humanly possible, because one

727
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: you'll get to laugh about it when you get older,

728
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: and too. It's a good way to practice chaos, Like

729
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: like chaos from kissing somebody is so easy. It seems

730
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: big when you're young, but it's really easy practice tool

731
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: so that when you're older and like really hits the fan.

732
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: You're like, I know how to deal with it. Kissed

733
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: to the wrong person once and I practiced these feelings. Yeah, yeah,

734
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: I kissed somebody. There was a boy my right before

735
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: I left for college that I worked with, and he

736
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: was older and he was very um he felt dangerous.

737
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Like one of our dates was like we went to

738
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: a cemetery that was supposed to be real haunted and

739
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: he'd been living alone in like a farmhouse out in

740
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, and you know, like and he

741
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: drove like a detective baby. He was so good looking,

742
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm working with this guy, but

743
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kiss him for sure. And so we went out,

744
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: we had to I don't know where we went one

745
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: night and he picked me up and he brought me

746
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: home and like we talked on my parents front stoop

747
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: for a long time and I was like, well, I'll

748
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: walk you to your car. My parents neighborhood had the

749
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: best show because I was kissing a new dude every

750
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: other like that's the last summer were college. And as

751
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: like we got to his car door, we just stood

752
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: there and I was like, I don't want it. To

753
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: be awkward at work and he goes, it's been awkward

754
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: at work and then kissed me, and I was just like,

755
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: this is a movie. This is that is good kiss

756
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: as many people as possible. Yeah, for sure, I'm down

757
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: with that. Oh, I know what I want to talk

758
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: about in this episode I make up Because you guys

759
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: have met Jojo, you haven't met Kelly Jefferson yet. Who

760
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: was the other half of that dream team. Um, Sophia,

761
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: your I makeup in particular is so on point beautiful.

762
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: It's so good, it's so bold. Talk to us about

763
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: the collaboration between you and Kelly Jefferson to create the

764
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: iconic early Yeah. I don't know. I I wish I

765
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: could remember how it started. But when Kelly came in,

766
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: because you know, she wasn't our our makeup artist. Right

767
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: in the beginning, she was like, this girl is into fashion,

768
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: and she and we were like looking through magazines because

769
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: there was no Pinterest yet, and and we really got

770
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: into this idea, which I love because it's like Brooks

771
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: trying to make herself up like the girls she sees

772
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: in the magazines, but she's sixteen, so she like matches

773
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: her eyes shadowed to her outfit and I just love it.

774
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: And we really thought a lot about how to do

775
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: it and how to bring um something young to it,

776
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: because it's a it's a it's a it's a look

777
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: that you see on girls in their twenties, or at

778
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: least you did then, and so we really wanted to

779
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: figure out how to make it feel like, you know,

780
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: this young girl who was super into makeup, but she

781
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: didn't have like an eye. She did every day she

782
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: coordinated with her outfits, and I don't know, I just

783
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: loved it. And Kelly with the candies ads, remember the

784
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: candies adds the shoes. I feel like that kind of

785
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: color and that mischief is like really kind of how

786
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: the Brook character started to feel like, I'm gonna weare

787
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: this juicy lip gloss today. Yeah, oh yeah. We got

788
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: really into God, we bought so many palettes of really

789
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: colorful eyes shadow. We got really into like super glossy

790
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: lip gloss. I mean, Kelly and I really really worked

791
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: on what that girl looked like. Joy you You're a

792
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: makeup was really good too, Did you once you started

793
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: dating Nathan? Did that free you up to be flirtier? Aesthetically?

794
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: Because they really tried to make you like, you know,

795
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: the girl that didn't wear any makeup in the beginning. Yeah,

796
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: I think that was part of it. She was like

797
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: just experimenting a little bit more with I feel it,

798
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: wanting to feel grown up. Um. But I also don't

799
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: know that we put I don't think I put that

800
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: much thought into it. I might have, but I don't remember.

801
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: But it was Kelly on this episode. She must have

802
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: been because that is such a Kelly. Yeah. So um yeah,

803
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think that was just her instinct was

804
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: to was to draw out my brown eyes I don't know,

805
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: try and make them look bigger or something, DOEI or

806
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but a great job. Yeah, we need

807
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: to ask her for sure, Kelly George Jefferson Okay, So

808
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: Destiny wants to know, after so many years of doing

809
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: the show, how were you guys able to snap into

810
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: character and back into your own personality during filming and

811
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: do you think that affected your actual personality. I think

812
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: it would be the other way around for me. I mean,

813
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: my personality would have affected the character more than the

814
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: character affecting my personality. I think, I hope. Yeah, I

815
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: mean I've said it in the past. I feel like

816
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: part of the reason I got so goofy and interviews

817
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: or just like kind of flip it and would lie

818
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: is because I needed people to understand that I'm not

819
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: peyton sort like I I'm not an innately sad person,

820
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: so I would clown it up a lot. I still

821
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: do um because I also just don't like wallowing. You know,

822
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a wallower. Be sad and move on me too. Yeah,

823
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: I feel that I don't like to wallow, but I

824
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: am really analytical and really introspective and really want to

825
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: like I want to suck the marrow out, you know,

826
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: I want to get the lesson. I want to understand systems,

827
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: like I like technical things and none of that. You

828
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: see in brook we got a glimpse of it this

829
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: episode where she's like, I need to know your hobby.

830
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: I need to know what you like. I need to

831
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: know what you like and I want to get too. Um.

832
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: But I yeah, I think what was hard And I

833
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit before too. It was

834
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: hard for me to feel like people thought I was

835
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: some like out there super sexual person because Brooke was.

836
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: Because it it brought an energy and like a gaze

837
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: my way that made me feel very um, very exposed,

838
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: and very uncomfortable. So it's interesting. I I know that

839
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: as the years went on, there were things about my

840
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: personality to Joy's point that affected Brooks more um. And

841
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: I do think I took some some lessons from Brooke.

842
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, I got I was such a people pleaser.

843
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: I I was a pro at like ignoring red flags

844
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: and just being a good girl. And and Brooke really

845
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: taught me to be like, I'm not gonna put up

846
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: with this, like absolutely, you know we're finished here, this

847
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: is the line you've crossed it. I did have that

848
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: when I started playing her at all. That took me

849
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: years to cultivate. And I in hindsight and like, I

850
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: don't know, but in hindsight, I feel like she probably

851
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: helped me learn that. That's so cool. Yeah, I was like,

852
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm done, I'm done. I'm just crying and Materials still

853
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: dealing with my kids. You know. It's so funny because

854
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: I like, my son is a really tender animal. And

855
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: so sometimes when we're watching these episodes and I see

856
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: Peyton being like particularly sensitive, it's like it's like watching

857
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: Gus in a wig, because he has the chin tremble

858
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: when he gets upset and I'm just like, oh no,

859
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: it's my kid. Yeah, yeah, he can't watch these Tilly's

860
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: much much much older, otherwise they'll just be able to

861
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: manipulate me. It's too much. All right, we got another question, Joy,

862
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: it's our next question. Well, I like this one, and

863
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: I and I've we've talked about this, but I think

864
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: the fans will love to know. Um. Aaron has a

865
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: question about stage names. Uh. She asks, have you ever

866
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: considered or did you ever consider using a stage name

867
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: instead of your real name? And Joy, why do you

868
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: use Bethany if you don't go by that name? Is

869
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: there story behind why you go by Joy instead of Bethany? Yeah? Um,

870
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: I'll run into my my partial portion of this real quick. Um.

871
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: I of course considered using a stage name when I

872
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: was younger, because I was obsessed with the name Rose.

873
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: And I remember going on an audition once with my

874
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: mother and I was old enough to sign my name.

875
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: She made me sign myself into the sign in sheets,

876
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: so I must have been I think I was probably

877
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: ten nine or ten, and I wrote my name as

878
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: Rose Lens on the sign in sheet because I wanted

879
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: to see what, you know, what it would sound like

880
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: to have somebody call that out and if I liked it.

881
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: So she said, you know, somebody came out to called

882
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: Rose Rose Lens. And I stood up and walked in.

883
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: My mom's like, uh, you know, do you know where

884
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: you got the name from? Where'd you hear it that?

885
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: You were like, that's the one I don't I've just

886
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: and it's my daughter's middle name. I've just always I

887
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: don't know that name just very syncopated with me in

888
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: some in some deep way, um symbiotic. I don't know

889
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: what the word is anyway. Um, but yeah. And then

890
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: I'd changed the spelling of my name to j O

891
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: I E when I was thirteen, just in high school,

892
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: and went by j O I E. Lens for many

893
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: years professionally, and then changed it when I got one

894
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: Tree Hill. I was, um, just going through sort of

895
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: a shift in my life and trying to figure out,

896
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: I guess, wanting to be more authentic and not trying

897
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: to be whatever everybody else, what I thought everyone else

898
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: wanted me to be. Um, it's like the theme of

899
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: my life. It's something I've been trying to figure out

900
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: how to. It's been a very it's funny being my

901
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: age now and looking back and being like, man, I'm like,

902
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: I gotta took me a long time, Like I was

903
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: aware that that was a problem of mine when I

904
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: was twenty, but it's still working its way out of

905
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: my system. Yeah. So that's why I decided to use

906
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: my whole name. I've never personally liked the name Bessany

907
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: for me, um, but I I felt I was. It

908
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: was more of like a leap of faith, like I'm

909
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: just gonna embrace fully who I am and just go

910
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: for this and use my whole name. Um. So whatever.

911
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: I still wish I was rose Lands, but it's too

912
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: late now Rose. Yeah. It's funny because I interestingly know

913
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who go by their middle name.

914
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh sure, yeah, you know yeah, And I

915
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: don't really know where that comes from. If someone wants

916
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: to give us the research on that, we would love it. Um.

917
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: But one of the things that I always thought was

918
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: cool about you using your full name, you know, first,

919
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: middle last, was that people who aren't really close to you,

920
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: we'll call you Bethany, and we get to call you Jo.

921
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: It's also how we know who's fulish. It does it

922
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: doesn't help. It helps to know when somebody says, hey, Bethany,

923
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you don't know me, Yes, how

924
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: can I help you? Somebody calls me Joy, then I

925
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: know they know me. Yeah, I don't know. I just

926
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: think that's so cool. I never thought to use one hill,

927
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: did you? So when we started doing the show. I

928
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: never had this problem at MTV. I had this problem

929
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: when we started doing the show. Is you know, like

930
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: the creepy message boards. People started accusing me of making

931
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: up my name because the spelling is like all wonky,

932
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: and they were like, she's trying so hard to get

933
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: attention by like changing, like clearly that's not her real name.

934
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: And I remember, like you know when you get mad

935
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: about Tiger, I mean, would know I'm named You know

936
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: how I got my name? I guess this is the

937
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: story that I get. My mother was like turbo pregnant,

938
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: and if I was going to be a boy, I

939
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: was gonna be named after my dad um. But she

940
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: didn't have a girl name. And I guess she went

941
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: to her brother's house and there was a Golden Retriever

942
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: next door that was like yapping, and this woman comes

943
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: out of the back door and it's like Hillary, Hillary,

944
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: knock it off, you know. And my mom was like, cool.

945
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's the story that I've gotten over the years.

946
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: But a yappy Golden Retriever with an I E Hillary

947
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: with an I E. Yeah, you know. I thought about

948
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: going as Hillary Ross. My middle name is Ross with

949
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: one s s. Again, it was like a weird spelling thing.

950
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: I like it. I don't know, guys, um, but no,

951
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: I I don't know even now. You know I'm Hillary

952
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Burton Morgan now and it just feels like so many syllables.

953
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: I know that Ben hr lens and I don't. I

954
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: don't know. It doesn't like it's like like Sarah just

955
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: a good Parker. It all rolls off your time. It

956
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: made signing autographs significantly more work. I should just do

957
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: are initials. Yeah, h yeah, the B is a little

958
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: am I a B M. Girls, I'm such a ten

959
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: year old about it. Perfect you know what that means? Um,

960
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, if you just I need you to

961
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: do just once, sign something Hillary poop number two. I

962
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love. I like the sound of

963
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: your name with Jeff's name. It feels very complete. Do

964
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: what it feels like to me? Fair a faucet. Major's

965
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. It's like, yeah, I was one

966
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: of three names. Everyone else got three names. Chad Joy

967
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 1: got three names. I never thought to have a stage name,

968
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: and honestly, I kind of wish I did because people

969
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: are so freaking creepy, Like most people are nice, but

970
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: the ones that are creepy are so deeply creepy. They

971
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: track down your parents. Yeah, And it's like I really

972
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: wish I had like a layer of protection, like even

973
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: with silly things, like you know, certain verifications you need,

974
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: like for your bank where you have to give them

975
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: your mom's maiden name. I can't. You had to make

976
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: something up. And I mean this is obviously a thing.

977
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: We all share it. I don't know if it really

978
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: irks me. Like I I am such a believer in

979
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: like respect and boundaries, so when they get crossed, it

980
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: like it makes me like not be able to sleep

981
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: at night, and it just like it really like affects

982
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: my feelings. And so I'm like, man, a stage name.

983
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I could have just had, Like what would your

984
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: stage name be? In a perfect world, it's you, You

985
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: go in the studio, you show up in twentieth century

986
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: Fox or what was the big studio back then. I

987
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: don't know. M m M fine, Fine, you go to

988
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: m Golden Mayor and they've got the little window and

989
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: you walk up to the window and there's a guy

990
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: sitting there and it's got two things of index cards.

991
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: One is first names, one is last names. And that's

992
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: how they picked your name, by the way, is really yep.

993
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: You would just file through the thing and pick a

994
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: card at random, and pick another card at random, and

995
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: there you go, Ava Gardner. No stop, that's it, okay,

996
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: So what will yours be? It was also today years

997
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: old when I learned this. I can't believe it. We

998
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: need we need good stage names so that when we

999
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: do our next series together. Here's mine, Eve Harling, Oh,

1000
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: Harling Harling. I love it. Eve is really good. I

1001
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: would take There's all sorts of names. I love the

1002
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: sound of man. Let me tell you what I would

1003
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 1: love to have not shared a last name. We two

1004
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: former US presidents, especially when everyone it's so insane, and

1005
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: I still get people who like yell at me, who

1006
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: were like, you know, you're you're so progressive. Your family

1007
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: must be embarrassed. I'm like, my family's from Canada, and

1008
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? Um, but so yeah, it would

1009
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: have been cool to not have had that. I would

1010
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: I would have taken an index card of whatever. I'll

1011
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: take anything you got. I always want to be someone

1012
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: really bitchy, like like Andrameda psychs, you know, like like

1013
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: something kind of androgynous and just like I'm hard drama.

1014
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: It's good evil. Um yeah, we like Peovil evil works,

1015
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Every movie needs an evil person.

1016
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, like like a name like Cruella de Ville.

1017
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: It's so good, so good? Should we show while we're

1018
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: talking about selecting things at random? Should we spend the

1019
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: wheel was a good seg joy? Okay, what do we got?

1020
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: The winner is most likely to live with their mom

1021
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: as an adult. Well okay, so character most likely to

1022
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: live with their mom as an adult? Wait? Did Brook

1023
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: live with Victoria? Victoria lived with Brook? I think Victoria

1024
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: lived with Broke maybebe she didn't live with me. I

1025
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: would have loved it, honestly. If I if I could

1026
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: have gotten more hilarious scenes like with you know, definitely

1027
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: just juggling stuff at home, I would have loved it. Yeah,

1028
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: who which character would live with their mom? Can I

1029
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: sign Brooke up to live with her mom. Now, all right, fine.

1030
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: I think Keith would have, but in not in the

1031
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: derogatory way that I think this is implying. I think

1032
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: he would have done that to care for he seems

1033
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: like the most nurturing. That would be the kind of

1034
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: person that would have stuck around. And actually Craig himself

1035
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: also would be the type of person that would would

1036
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, Craig Keith chicken dinner. Yeah, and in

1037
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: the sweetest way, in a loving way. Yeah. Caretaking respect

1038
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: for your elders. I love it. Hey, do we know

1039
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: what happens in the next episode? What do we have

1040
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: to look forward to next week? Anything? Anything dangerous? Anybody

1041
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: else taking their pants off? Next episode? I have to

1042
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: look at the rundown? What is it? Crash course? In

1043
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: polite conversations, is the next episode? Are you guys at

1044
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: home watching along with us? I hope so. I hope

1045
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 1: so too. It's fun to watch it week by week

1046
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: like we had to in two thousand three, you know

1047
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: that weekly anticipation, because as I'm washing dishes before we

1048
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: tape these things, I'm like, man, I can't wait, Like

1049
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: I know, I can't wait. Yeah, I'm excited. I hope

1050
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: we and guys we watch these right before we film

1051
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: our podcast. I mean, that's how we do it. It's

1052
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: not like us watch it sometimes this week, like we

1053
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: are sitting down watching them together and rolling right into

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Speaker 1: taping for you. So I hope that you'll watch along

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Speaker 1: with us. In fact, maybe we should do a live

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Speaker 1: watch sometimes Instagram live watch right before we film our

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Speaker 1: podcast or something. Let's do that. Well, we're going to

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Speaker 1: practice our live events, and I'm really excited about the

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Speaker 1: live event that we have coming up for O th

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Speaker 1: h day. Um. I hope we get a ton of

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Speaker 1: fan questions. Yeah, I think we should all coordinate our outfits, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are you guys wearing? I don't know what to wear.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. I'm excited to see you in person though.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be really fun. Yeah. Alright, so you

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Speaker 1: guys get your tickets to that watch watch episode twelve

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Speaker 1: so that we were all on the same page next

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Speaker 1: week by everybody. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to

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