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Speaker 2: Oh it's back, baby, It is back hatred in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League, and we aren't talking about questions, asked

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Speaker 2: the head coaches. We will get to that. It is

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Speaker 2: a Wildcard Monday and there is still one game to go.

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Speaker 2: Happy Monday, Carry Rhodes, how are you Is it Monday already?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 4: Not?

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Speaker 3: Just sit with you in this chair like two hours ago.

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Speaker 2: We were here on Sunday for a crazy afternoon on

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Speaker 2: end Zone Radio, and back at it on a Monday

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Speaker 2: where there is still as one more wild card game

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Speaker 2: to be played Texans and Steelers. But the five that

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Speaker 2: we had prior, Wow, what a weekend. Saturday afternoon, great

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Speaker 2: game Sunday Saturday night, great game Sunday afternoon, great game,

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Speaker 2: late game on Sunday, awesome game Sunday night. Can't win

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Speaker 2: them all, can't win them all, sorry, Chargers fans. Jason Stewart,

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Speaker 2: I know it was tough. Yeah, can't do it, do it?

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Speaker 2: Can't do it my military. Nope, not four out of five.

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Speaker 2: Ain't bad, Glove said two out of three ain't bad.

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Speaker 2: Four out of five ain't bad. Oh, but I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what is bad, and in a good way. The

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Speaker 2: Packers Bears rivalry is back, and it's back with a vengeance.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's actually just talk about what happened

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Speaker 2: on Saturday night. Green Bay blows a twenty one to

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Speaker 2: three lead at the half to the Chicago Bears. Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams puts on a show, The teams go back and

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Speaker 2: forth in the fourth quarter. Ultimately Chicago ends up getting

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Speaker 2: the victory in a game where I saw videos of

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Speaker 2: multiple Bears fans crying of having tears from winning a

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Speaker 2: wild card game, tears of joyt Now there may be

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Speaker 2: tears in Green Bay when they find out Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 2: is back for a few years, but that isn't hasn't

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Speaker 2: been confirmed.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 2: But when we talk about the actual game, like, this

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Speaker 2: game meant everything to the Chicago Bears, and for a

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Speaker 2: half it looked like it was completely lost, and then

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Speaker 2: Caleb william spend Johnson in the league the defense as

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Speaker 2: well turn things around on the second half.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that's the thing about that game.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people, you know, want to praise the offense,

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Speaker 5: praise Caleb praise been obviously well deserved and they should

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Speaker 5: be praised. But the defense was horrific in the first half,

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Speaker 5: and Green Bay got whatever they wanted, and for them

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Speaker 5: to come out after halftime correct that come out and

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Speaker 3: But when you talk about the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: And you talk about why the Bears and Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: was able to come back, there's a couple of factors.

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Speaker 5: Green Bay got conservative, which they've done and which is

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Speaker 5: that happened a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But also, I.

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Speaker 5: Think Caleb Williams plays his best when it's backyard football,

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Speaker 5: right when he can go out there and be the

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Speaker 5: most athletic player. He can be the guy that can

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Speaker 3: I think that's when he does his best.

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Speaker 5: And so I would think moving forward now that they

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson and that offense in Caleb Williams, I would

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Speaker 5: them tempo, give him confidence, and I think for him

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Speaker 5: those easy completions matter because he's not as accurate right

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Speaker 2: You're saying that would maybe prevent Chicago from being in

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Speaker 2: it up to see what they did. Yeah, ultimately in

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Speaker 2: It may have been the play of the game. But

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Speaker 2: there are now so many images just from that Saturday

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Speaker 2: and Saturday Nights was the quickest of them all, like

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Speaker 2: The the lack of respect in that handshake was daunting,

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Speaker 2: like there's ways to do it, there's ways to be respectful,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't want any part of that. He didn't

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Speaker 2: make this as disrespectful as possible? There was no even

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if he got the tap on

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Speaker 3: The locker room.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we can't play on the air because there's

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Speaker 2: But he said, bleep the Packers. And this has kind

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Speaker 2: Johnson was asked today about the phrase that he used,

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Speaker 4: Like I said before, there's a rivalry that exists between

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Speaker 4: just I don't like that team. So George and I

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Speaker 2: That is amazing that the team president ownership is like,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, continue to continue to say bleep the Packers

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Speaker 2: because that's how we feel about them, and it is

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Speaker 2: actually refreshing. And we'll get to a Green Bay sort

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Speaker 2: of thing in the second. But Kerry, this is what

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Speaker 2: the NFL has been lacking for a while. Rivalry uniforms

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Speaker 2: do not make a rivalry. Just because the Seahawks are

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Speaker 2: that game means much more. What means more is winning

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Speaker 2: Because the forty nine ers were black against the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: to say, bleep the Packers. That is what a rivalry is.

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Speaker 2: And that is what I thought is actually the biggest

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Speaker 2: it is back at a fever pitch. So with that

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Speaker 2: back to being the best rivalry in the National Football.

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Speaker 5: League and the only way that comes to fluition, which

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Speaker 5: it is right now at this moment, at its peak,

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Speaker 5: the Bears have to win. And now that they were

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Speaker 5: able to win this game, like all the talk, all

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Speaker 5: the chatter, that's fine, Like the we could feel the inertia,

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Speaker 5: we could feel the energy going towards it becoming what

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Speaker 5: you just eloquently stated.

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Speaker 3: But the Bears have to win games.

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Speaker 5: And so the fact that they were able to come

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Speaker 5: much more, and then you can pound that with the handshake,

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Speaker 5: the triple the double triple down after like not backing

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Speaker 5: down or let's let's get it like that part, that

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Speaker 5: part of football really meant something. That's why college football

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Speaker 3: And for the NFL to get back to that.

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Speaker 5: I remember those days when I was in New York,

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Speaker 5: And then the handshake between Bill Belichick and Mangini was

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Speaker 2: I think that there's there's connections and stuff that can

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Speaker 2: time that they play. One of their matchups will be

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Speaker 2: a Sunday night game, I'm sure, and the other one

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Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur and Ben Johnson on either sideline, But there

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Speaker 2: still is a question about Lafleur. I told you yesterday

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Speaker 2: Lafleur should be done. I think the Packers reading today

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixth season isn't a lame duck season.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that Matt Lafleor has earned another contract extension.

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Speaker 2: I don't, and I think that Saturday it gave them

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Speaker 2: too much. Enough is enough. The conservative nature of how

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Speaker 2: not just a one off. It's not a one off

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Speaker 2: in a contest against the forty nine ers. It's now

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Speaker 2: it provided the perfect avenue for green Bay to take

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Speaker 2: waking up today and reading that the Packers still plan

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Speaker 2: this is a feel good Monday for them.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Dan, with all that you just said and the

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Speaker 5: intensity that has been picked up with the rivalry and

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Speaker 5: bringing it back, and you have the two head coaches,

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Speaker 5: they don't they can't stand each other, like right now,

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Speaker 5: with all that being said, why would you remove one

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Speaker 2: So you're right now, you're one hundred percent right, and

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Speaker 2: maybe there is even now today Green Bay's like, well,

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Speaker 2: we can't fire him now because that makes it look

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Speaker 2: like the Bears made us fire him. Like, you're right,

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Speaker 2: the story continues. I just look at it from a

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Speaker 2: if we could get John Harbaugh in here, like isn't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, yeah, I was honestly yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Will ask a former NFL on what decisions at policy

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Speaker 2: They were fighting Saturday night, Saturday afternoon, Sunday afternoon, late

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, Texans and Steelers wrapping up wild Card weekend.

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Speaker 2: Isaac Low and Crone'll have an update of all the

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Speaker 2: You're giving that a thumbs up?

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Speaker 5: No, Dan, when you said we're expecting the fight tonight,

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Speaker 2: as he does every Monday here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's the former GM of the Chargers and Raiders. Tom

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Speaker 3: Hi Tom.

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Speaker 2: Let's take us into the minds of ed policy of

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Speaker 6: Well, from from an office perspective, I'm assuming, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: Maybe and maybe you just answered it there, but I

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Speaker 5: Tom Let's let's put it to the other the other

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Speaker 6: Well, it's definitely competitive fire. I mean I keep saying

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Speaker 6: it's it's the emotional business. It's football. It's competitive. You're

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Speaker 6: trying to lout and beat the other team. Now, you

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Speaker 6: wanted to have professional fact and that that goes to

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Speaker 6: you know, post game, when you're shaking hads to keep hands,

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Speaker 6: you need to handle that a professional way. But as

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Speaker 6: far as having a rivalry with the team and using

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Speaker 6: certain things to get your team motivated, that's been going

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Speaker 6: on since George Hallis was the head coach of the Bears.

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Speaker 6: Any different, I don't think it's any different with any

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Speaker 6: Bears coach has been there to say, hey, look I

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Speaker 6: don't like the Packers. I think that's completely normal. There's

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Speaker 6: robberies all across this league. But you got to make

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Speaker 6: sure you have a professional respect for the people you

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Speaker 6: compete against, and that includes, you know, a postgame handshake

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Speaker 6: to me. But as far as you know rivalries and

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Speaker 6: not like you know teams, that's just the nature of sports.

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Speaker 2: He's carried Road Tom dan Beyer being joined by Tom Telesco,

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Speaker 2: former general manager of the Chargers and Raiders, joining us

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Speaker 2: here as he does every Monday on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: throughout the NFL season. I want to turn our attention

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Speaker 2: to Philadelphia. Where would you start in assessing and starting

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Speaker 2: to assess this offseason for the Eagles? Is it at

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator? Is it with the head coach? It's Aj Brown?

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Speaker 2: Where do you start if you're a Holly Roseman.

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Speaker 6: Well, you talk about patterns and where you are and

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Speaker 6: their offense. Really for the whole year, you're getting the

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Speaker 6: playoffs and all your weaknesses are usually exposed because the

463
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Speaker 6: games are bigger that the teams are playing are better,

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Speaker 6: and all year their passing offense just had a really

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Speaker 6: hard time converting on third down extending drives, and it

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Speaker 6: showed up in the playoffs against a forty Niners team

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Speaker 6: who's playing outstanding as a team, but man, they're decimated

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Speaker 6: due to injuries and the fact that the Eagles really

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Speaker 6: just still could not move the ball through the air

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Speaker 6: and convert on third downs. So you know, they've went

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Speaker 6: from having Kellen Moore's or up into coordinator Kellen's outstanding

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Speaker 6: and he's done it for a number of years and

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Speaker 6: with are proven commodity, and they went to their their

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Speaker 6: coordinator this year, who is Look, he was inexperience. I've

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Speaker 6: never done the job before, but he saw a whole

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Speaker 6: year of body of work and knowing where their team

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Speaker 6: is talent wise and where they are. I'm sure they're

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Speaker 6: having probably very hard discussions today about, you know, what

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Speaker 6: we do on the offensive wide of balls, specifically what

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Speaker 6: we do with the coordinator to get back to where

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Speaker 6: we need to be, and those conversations I can guarantee

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Speaker 6: you are happening this morning, and they'll take it from there.

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Speaker 5: Tom, I want to talk about a team that was

484
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Speaker 5: kind of disappointed me in this in this playoff run

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Speaker 5: obviously one and done, a team that's kind of been,

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Speaker 5: you know, decimated by injury as well, but most of

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Speaker 5: these teams are at this point, and that's the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: And I was excited to see you know, Herbert in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs and you know, kind of get that monkey

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Speaker 5: office back and get a win. But they just they

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Speaker 5: looked be fuddled. I mean it looked like they had

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Speaker 5: no answers. Herbert was confused, couldn't couldn't really decipher what

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Speaker 5: New England was running coverage wise, and really had their

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Speaker 5: coordinators had no answer to the test to get to

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Speaker 5: get to him. So where do you start with the

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Speaker 5: Chargers and how do you fix that situation out here

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Speaker 5: in LA.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they've been a resilient team this year that they've

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Speaker 6: i mean, everybody fights through injury up but you know,

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Speaker 6: they had probably a higher percentage than most of some

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Speaker 6: very important players in offense in both starting tackles, but

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Speaker 6: they've been able to overcovercome it. And then yesterday, I mean,

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Speaker 6: they did not play along offense. There's no way you

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Speaker 6: can you can you know, look any other way than this.

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Speaker 6: And Justin didn't play well either, But when when the

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Speaker 6: running game weren't getting less than three yards of carry

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Speaker 6: and then they were, they had some clean pockets and

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Speaker 6: Justin's you know, normally pretty decisive with the football, but

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Speaker 6: it just didn't like there wasn't much open and there

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Speaker 6: we was just zero big plays in that passing game.

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Speaker 6: Because you look on the other side, like Drake May.

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Speaker 6: Like Drake May took five sacks, he had an interception,

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Speaker 6: put two balls on the ground, lost the fumble, but

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Speaker 6: he made that big throw to Hunter Henry for the touchdown,

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Speaker 6: and you know, everything seems seems like it's fine. So

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Speaker 6: but look at I look back. I was with the

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Speaker 6: Colts for a long time, and it took Peyton Manning

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Speaker 6: six years to win his first playoff game, including in

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Speaker 6: year five, and I remember that specifically, sitting in the

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Speaker 6: press box with the Colts. We lost the Jets forty

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Speaker 6: one to nothing in a wild card game in year five,

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Speaker 6: and everyone was saying that Peyton Manning just isn't good

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Speaker 6: enough to win the big game. And obviously everything took

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Speaker 6: off from there. So Justin will be back next year.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully it'll be a team that's a little less injured.

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Speaker 6: But they got to figure out this is you know,

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Speaker 6: last year against the Texans that playoffs, the same thing.

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Speaker 6: The offenses did that play well in the game, So

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Speaker 6: they got to figure out how you're going to get

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Speaker 6: around that next year.

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Speaker 3: See, Dan, we want some game with the Jets. Here's

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Speaker 3: the thing, the way back in the day, way back

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Speaker 3: in the day. He is Carrier Roads.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan byered Tom Telesco joining us here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. I'm gonna just use the NFC just because

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Speaker 2: all of their games are done for wild card weekend.

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Speaker 2: But now that we know that the NFC is down

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Speaker 2: to four who do you Who do you like? Who

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Speaker 2: impresses you? Who do you have a good feeling about

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Speaker 2: of this now fourteen bracket? We know Seattle didn't play,

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Speaker 2: but the Niners, Rams, and Bears did pick up wins

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Speaker 2: this past weekend. Who do you like in the NFC?

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Speaker 6: You know, I like the Rams still that And I'm

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Speaker 6: not just say next to live out in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 6: There's just you know, a veteran coach, veteran quarterback, really

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Speaker 6: well coached defense. I thought the Panthers played an outstanding game,

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Speaker 6: and I really do think that came down to that

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Speaker 6: the Rams have been in those situations many times before

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Speaker 6: and they and they executed when they had to. Now,

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Speaker 6: they have their negatives, like their special teams has been

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Speaker 6: a problem for the Rams all year and it showed

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Speaker 6: up in a playoff game and luckily they were able

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Speaker 6: to withstand that. But I think with their they have

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Speaker 6: a lot of death on offense in terms of who

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Speaker 6: they can throw the ball to, whether it's the receivers,

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Speaker 6: whether there's the facts on the backfield or the tight ends.

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Speaker 6: Staffer's playing outstanding and I just love what Chris Shula

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Speaker 6: is doing with the defense. So for me, I like

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Speaker 6: them on this side. We'll see how the how the

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Speaker 6: Seahawks end up coming out as number one seed. But

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Speaker 6: the Rams are the team I've watched all year and

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Speaker 6: just been really impressed on them on both sides of

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Speaker 6: the ball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's the Rams are Well. I think they're

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Speaker 5: the most answering Tom just.

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Speaker 3: But there you go to.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about the AFC before you got out

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Speaker 5: of here as well. And I know we just talked

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Speaker 5: about the NFC being the fourteen is being determined. But

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Speaker 5: we got a game tonight, the Houston Texans versus the

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously, Pittsburgh has one enough to get into

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Speaker 5: into the playoffs and have a home playoff game, but

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Speaker 5: Houston comes in hot, similar to Jacksonville came in hot

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Speaker 5: and Jacksonville lost that first game. What does Houston need

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Speaker 5: to do today tonight to avoid that same situation happened

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Speaker 5: for them for.

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Speaker 6: Them, just score enough points to win the game. That's

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Speaker 6: the thing. Because third defense is outstanding. I mean every

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Speaker 6: team has their weakness somewhere, but on their defense that

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Speaker 6: you just you can't really find it between their secondary,

581
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Speaker 6: to their linebackers to the front, they do everything really well.

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Speaker 6: They rush the passer well, they're excellent a third down.

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Speaker 6: They create turnovers at a high rate. So to me,

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Speaker 6: it's just about the Texans offense just getting enough points.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this could be a seventeen fourteen to seventeen

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Speaker 6: ten game. I watch you end up being a complete

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Speaker 6: hard for her. But I just I just think that

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Speaker 6: the Texans are defenses ity're hard to score on, so

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Speaker 6: you just got to get Now, the Texas offense been

590
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Speaker 6: won the ball particularly well, and I like Woody Marks.

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Speaker 6: I think he's got some really good ability, but they

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Speaker 6: just haven't run at a real efficient rates. They got

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Speaker 6: to rely on their passing game. The Steelers defense has

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Speaker 6: been up and down this year, but we know the

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Speaker 6: Seers can rush the passer. So we'll see how this

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Speaker 6: plays out. But I would expect a low scoring game,

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Speaker 6: and the Texas just got to score enough, you know,

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Speaker 6: between their offense and their kicking games to come out

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Speaker 6: with a win.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I've got one last one, and there's nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with the games that we had. It's the

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Speaker 2: games coming up schedule wise, How when do you hear,

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Speaker 2: like we found out last night the games are going

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Speaker 2: to be on Saturday and the games that are going

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Speaker 2: to be on Sunday, but we still don't know the times.

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Speaker 2: How frustrating is that. Do you guys get a heads

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Speaker 2: up in the front office on when you're gonna play

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Speaker 2: where you know how that schedule is going to set up,

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Speaker 2: because I know Kyle Shanahan said, gosh, I hope you

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Speaker 2: don't play on Saturday, but they'll probably have us play

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Speaker 2: on Saturday and all and behold, they're playing on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: But what are the emotions in dealing with an unknown

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Speaker 2: playoff schedule as you go through this bracket.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you try not to focus enough. It's hard not to,

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Speaker 6: but you know that the team tides up as usually

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Speaker 6: maybe only an hour or two before it's released to

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Speaker 6: the public, So you don't know, I mean saw TV based.

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Speaker 6: I know one year with the Chargers, we had a

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Speaker 6: playoff game at Baltimore. We won that game, we flew

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Speaker 6: back home and then we had a short week to

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Speaker 6: play out in New England and play out New England.

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Speaker 6: But honestly, once you get to the playoffs, you kind

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Speaker 6: of have the mentality of it doesn't matter, when it

624
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Speaker 6: doesn't matter where we'll go now from That's the mentality

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Speaker 6: that the head coach that players have to have. As

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Speaker 6: a GM. You can call it complain, but Dan, it

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Speaker 6: doesn't do anything, It doesn't mean anything. So in the end,

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Speaker 6: at this point of the year, most of the prep

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Speaker 6: is mental. Most of the prep is game planning. At

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Speaker 6: least for San Francisco. They've played the Seahawks already twice.

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Speaker 6: They know them well and physically, you know, you're not

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Speaker 6: going to bang in practice. They're gonna be a little

633
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Speaker 6: bit lighter. You'll have one less day recovery. But hey,

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Speaker 6: this is the nature of the basis, the way the

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Speaker 6: playoffs are. And yeah, you may get, you know a

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Speaker 6: little bit of complaints for a little bit, but then

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Speaker 6: you got to focus on that task at hand.

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Speaker 2: All right, Former GM of the Charges, And there's Tom

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Speaker 2: Telasco joining us on Fox Sports Radio. Tom, appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: enjoy next to the next round of playoffs. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you next week.

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Speaker 3: I have a go wing Tom an time.

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Speaker 2: find me at Dan Byer on Fox. So the Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: ego season is over and maybe the some fans, thank

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Speaker 2: goodness there will be no Super Bowl repeat. Uh, there's

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Speaker 2: a twelve year old kid who laid the like laid

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Speaker 2: it down to a local news crew. We'll hear from

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Speaker 2: him later on in the show What went Wrong in Philadelphia?

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Speaker 2: What did go wrong in Philadelphia? Not even just yesterday

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Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers? But is this all Kevin

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Speaker 2: Patullo's faults? Is the new offensive coordinator?

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Speaker 3: No, no, h. He definitely could be better.

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Speaker 5: Obviously he was new to the job and you can

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Speaker 5: kind of see that it's not an easy one. But

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Speaker 5: when all your playmakers all year have complained at some

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Speaker 5: point throughout the season, you know like there's something really

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Speaker 5: really wrong there, and it starts with your quarterback. And

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Speaker 5: I've been on air. I've talked about Jalen Hurts before

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Speaker 5: during the regular season. He's a normal He's an average,

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Speaker 5: average to good quarterback. It just is what it is.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know why it's been that way, but

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Speaker 5: there's been questions throughout his whole time at the QB position.

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Speaker 5: Early on, it was he's a system guy, which is cool,

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Speaker 5: that's fine, all quarterbacks are. But then it gets to

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Speaker 5: the point where he can't throw the ball across the

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Speaker 5: middle of the field, and that one hasn't been fixed.

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Speaker 5: And so when you look at that, like being able

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Speaker 5: to throw the ball down the middle of the field,

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Speaker 5: deep and accurate, that separates NFL quarterbacks. Everybody else can

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Speaker 5: know they can throw the ball. They can they can

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Speaker 5: be accurate. If they're asked to throw short passes and

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Speaker 5: throw check downs, you can have got a guy like

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Speaker 5: when I was playing and Derek and David Carr.

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Speaker 3: Which one is it? David or Derek? Which one is it?

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Speaker 3: Oh David, Thank you David.

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Speaker 5: Highest completion percentage I had seen when once he got

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Speaker 5: out of his first situation, ended up in Houston, his

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Speaker 5: completion percentage would be all like high seventies, almost eighties.

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Speaker 5: He'd have one hundred and sixty yards and no touchdown.

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Speaker 5: They don't mean like you can do those and you

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Speaker 5: can be a game manager. But when you have the

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Speaker 5: weapons that you have, and you have guys on the

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Speaker 5: outside that are burners that can get the ball, that

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Speaker 5: can beat DB's deep, and you can have explosive plays

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Speaker 5: and not complete those, I'm gonna put it on the

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna give most of that blame to the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of where I see it.

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Speaker 2: I think ultimately, in the end, I think that Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts his shortcomings were magnified, and they were in yesterday's game.

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Speaker 2: I thought they were magnified by the play calling at

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Speaker 2: the end of the game. You know, I hated it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: First and ten at the twenty one yard line with

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Speaker 2: a minute to go in three times, and you have

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley in the backfield, by the way, with possession,

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Speaker 2: knowing that you have to score a touchdown, so you're

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Speaker 2: you've got four downs to do it. So get three

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Speaker 2: yards on those four plays and you get a fresh

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Speaker 2: set of downs and you're not worried about time at all.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you probably want to take some time off

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Speaker 2: the clock. So San Francisco, if you were to score

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Speaker 2: a touchdown, wouldn't be able to score and they ended

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Speaker 2: up having a Hurts took a sack trying to scramble

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Speaker 2: the looting pressure on the first down, and then a

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Speaker 2: couple of incompletions and on the fourth down ended up

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Speaker 2: throwing it in the triple coverage to Dallas Goddard over

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Speaker 2: the middle, and like that's that's the issue. And then

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Speaker 2: we see videos of the meeting on the fourth down

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Speaker 2: on the timeout and Jalen Hurts not loving the fourth

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Speaker 2: down play called by Kevin Petula. This is what Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts had to say about his offensive coordinator and also

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Speaker 2: about AJ Brown's future. As AJ Brown got into a

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Speaker 2: spat with Nick Sirianni on the sidelines yesterday, listen to

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Speaker 2: this with Kevin Patulo.

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Speaker 3: Do you want him to come back as the offensive coordinator?

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Speaker 3: It's too soon to think about that. And like I said,

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Speaker 3: I'd put my trust in how we okay, how we

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Speaker 3: need can know? What about would you like? Agent, I'll talk.

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Speaker 3: We're in a good, great place. So he didn't give

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Speaker 3: any reassurance to anybody. Well, it's too early to decide

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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator. It's too early to decide that.

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Speaker 2: You need two weeks, maybe months carry roads. His answer

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Speaker 2: his answer set it all. And yeah, a J. Brown too,

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Speaker 2: and you know my thoughts about A J. Brown just

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Speaker 2: just you know, throwing matches on all these bridges, and listen,

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Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni is not an easy guy to like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: his attitude and when those two are even, I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know who side to take, whether it's Nicky

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Speaker 2: or Sirianni yelling up the tunnel in Buffalo after a

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Speaker 2: basically meaningless regular season game. And now you lose yesterday

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Speaker 2: and you see how meaningless it was and how stupid

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Speaker 2: those comments look. But then you have A J. Brown

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Speaker 2: kind of rolling his eyes to that. You have AJ

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Speaker 2: Brown talking about the team meeting that they had earlier

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Speaker 2: in the year that you know didn't I don't know

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Speaker 2: what you're talking about, and playing that sort of game.

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Speaker 2: And then in Sirianni having words, AJ Brown missing a

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Speaker 2: pass wide open over the well it was darn near

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Speaker 2: wide open over the middle on a third down play

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Speaker 2: in yesterday's game. It just seems like, Yeah, it just

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Speaker 2: seems like those ten years need to end. He's carry roads.

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