1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ Buck 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: with you, Buck? What is going on? Man? 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Not too much? Trying to finish off the week strong, 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: good slate of games in the midst of the college 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: football Pitcher kind of crystallizing which teams could be in 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: the playoffs and then we're trying to figure out who's 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: going to make the final push to make the playoffs 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: in the NFL. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to do a little college today. It's 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: not going to be a long pod, but we're going 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: to do a little college as we head into the weekend, 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: starting to get later later in the year, and we 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: have the first playoff ranking. So I want to go 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: over the playoff ranking first and then some of the 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: matchups and get some thoughts on it. But let's start 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: first of all here when you look at it, Oregon's one, 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State two, Georgia three, Miami four, Texas five, Penn 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: State six, Tennessee seven, Indiana eight, BYU nine, Notre Dame ten, 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Bama eleven, Boise twelve. And the way the bracket works, 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: because it is a little funky where four the Big 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: conference winners get the first four seeds. So the teams 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: with buys, you're looking at Oregon, Georgia, Miami, BYU, BYU 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: winning the Big twelve right now, So those will be 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: the four teams that have buys those first round matchups 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Penn State, Notre Dame, Texas, Bama, Tennessee, Indiana, Ohio State, Boise. 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: So just first of all, just reaction from being at 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: a point now where we have twelve teams versus what 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: used to be two, what used to be four thumbs 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: up thumbs down. With what you've seen so far. 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: I love it because there's more interest. And I've always 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: wondered why the top level didn't mimic the lower levels 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 2: where you would see the playoffs, whether it's sixteen team, 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: twenty four team, you know, you know they do it. 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Whatever used to be double a level and those things like, 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: to me, that was always exciting to have to run 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: the gauntlet. And anyone who has played sports, particularly in 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: high school, you're familiar with the playoff system. In the 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: playoffs system doesn't take you to a one or two 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: game deal. You have to run the gaunt no matter 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: how good your team is. I am more appreciative of that, 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: because part of what champions need to display, I would say, 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: is the competitive stamina to walk through a rough road 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: to the title. I'm excited about it. I think a 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: lot of people are more excited about this version of 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: the playoffs in the previous iterations. 47 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I think you get more interesting games. 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: I think you get more players that are going to 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: play through the rest of the season. Think about guys 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: you know as of late who've kind of tapped and 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: shut it down. Well, now you've got a chance to 52 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: be one of those twelve teams. That puts more teams 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: in the mix, that keeps more players interested, which is good. 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: I think it also gives you the opportunity to schedule 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: up in the non conference because you can absorb a 56 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: loss if you have to. So I think that's good 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: for everybody. I think the home games on college football 58 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: campuses is going to be fun. Talk about massive, massive 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: atmosphere games here. So I think it's fantastic. I look 60 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: at this slate of games as it would be right now. 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: You tell me we get Texas Alabama, Yeah, sign me 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: up for that one. 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, well, when you're and DJ is funny 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: now I was listening to this podcast. It was a 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: high school coach, but I think it applies to a 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: college guy. And he said, the best teams want to 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: have their flaws exposed early so they can go to 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: work on them later, which plays to your point about, Oh, 69 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: now that there's a twelve team turnerment, we know that 70 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: we can get in, let's play some of these good 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: teams early so we know exactly who we are and 72 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: whether we win or lose is more so to help 73 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: us on a fact finding mission to see how we 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: can build the best version of the current team that 75 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: we have. I love it. You just saw Penn State 76 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: getting knocked off by our hostate, and even though it's 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: a league game, Yeah, they went from three to six, 78 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: not that big of a deal. So you play those games, 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: play the heavyweights, and put yourself in a position in 80 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: uh to have multiple bites at the Apple later on. 81 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: So I was at Oregon, Michigan this last week, and 82 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: I'll get to some of the players that I saw 83 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: there in a second. But I was talking there's a 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: bunch of evaluators there, a bunch of you know, a 85 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: couple GMS, some other director of player personnels there and 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: I was just kind of canvassing, like, hey, you guys 87 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: have been around. You got a chance to get out 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: and see a lot of players. Yeah, you know, actually 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: they had. They got a chance to see a lot 90 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: of different teams. So I said, well, we're you know, 91 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: who are the best teams? It's always fascinating forget to 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: cognit college guys talking NFL guys in terms of the talent. 93 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: And they told me three teams that they thought were 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: clearly above everybody else. And I was I was kind 95 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: of surprised that Ohio State was not one of the 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: three that they mentioned. Ooh, surprised me. But they said, 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: if you're if they were going to look at who 98 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: they thought would win a national championship, who could run 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: the galllet, it was Oregon, Georgia, and Texas. Those are 100 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: the three teams that they gave me. 101 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: Wow, Oregon, Georgia, and Texas. Let's see, what are some 102 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: common denominators between Oregon, Texas and Georgia. Oh, I have 103 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: a common denominator. All were They're all. 104 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: At Alabama, All. 105 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: At Alabama. 106 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I was trying to forgeret I'm sorry, sorry, Dan Dan 107 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Dan Dan Lanning under the tree because he was at Georgia. 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: He was at Alabama. Alabama. 109 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know he's out. He was a graduate. 110 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: He was a graduate assistant in Alabama. So I would 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: say they all have taken what they learned from Alabama 112 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: and made a bigger version of it at their own spot, 113 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: with while injecting their own personality. So we've seen people 114 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: struggle trying to replicate what the New England patients were 115 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: able to do under Bill Belichick. These guys have been 116 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: able to take the blueprint and duplicated UH at their 117 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: own spot. And this is funny because I had a conversation. 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: I don't think you'll mind if I disclose it, but 119 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: Mike Loxa at Maryland, because Mike Loxi was an assistant 120 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: or while at Alabama. Then he goes to Maryland. And 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: one of the things that I asked locks I was like, Lockx, 122 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: why have guys that have come from that tree, why 123 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: have they struggled? And he said, he said, look, the 124 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: blueprint always works. And the way that he liked it, 125 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: he said, what they do down at Alabama, he said, 126 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: is like when you walk into your grandma's kitchen and 127 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: she's making cookies. He said, it's the old recipe that 128 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: always works, is tried and true. The trick is you 129 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: have to take that recipe, but you have to do 130 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: it with your own personality. The people that have failed 131 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: have tried to be Saban in the kitchen as opposed 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: to being themselves still using grandma's recipe. When I look 133 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: at Dan Leannek, he is himself. He's authentic when it 134 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: comes to what he believes in. At Oregon, the blueprint 135 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 2: is very much Alabama. Like when I think about Sark 136 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: at Texas compared to what he was at se in Washington. 137 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: The blueprint is Alabama's, but he's very confident in who 138 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: he is or whatever, and it curveaves Mery. At Georgia, 139 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: he has taken the blueprint and I would say he 140 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: has put it on ten in terms of infusing his competitive, 141 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: feisty personality while utilizing the same blueprint to help Alabama 142 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: become successful. The blueprint works town that players working hard, selfless, 143 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: doing all those things. You do all those things, you 144 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 2: can win a ton of games. 145 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: So I'm just looking at these teams in the top right, 146 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: So let's put Ohio State and Penn State kind of 147 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: on their own island, right, So if we take them away, 148 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: the top six teams lanning as you just mentioned, GA 149 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: at Bama. Obviously Georgia under Kirby, that comes under the 150 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: Alabama at Alabama umbrella Georgia Kirby. Directly underneath neck four 151 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: is Miami Christabaul Miami Fama. 152 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: He's told us on the show. 153 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so, I mean we just had that conversation. 154 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: He's under that same umbrella. Sark number five, Texas offensive 155 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: coordinator at Alabama. So you're looking at what for the 156 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: top five teams all with the same lineage, and even 157 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: eight Indiana he spent time at Alabama. Uh so Signetti 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: did so. And then you've got Alabama themselves. I mean, 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: over half of the top twelve has all come from this. 160 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: They all have the same DNA buck So it's like, well, 161 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: obviously that is winning stuff. This is producing. 162 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: It is winning stuff. And it's funny. I heard it, like, 163 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: I know we don't necessarily cross remote, but I think 164 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: I heard Signetti talk about the blueprint in the formula 165 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: on Pat McAfee and Nick Saban talked about it afterwards, 166 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: and Saban said was different about Signetti than the other guys. 167 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: Signetti was there when they just got there. They went 168 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: seven to six and twelve and Zho he said, so 169 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: he saw it from the ground up. The other guys 170 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: came when the look it was already roll. The machine 171 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: was rolling. So when you think about that part of it, 172 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: building the cuture from the ground up, being able to 173 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: take those lessons that you learn in watching Saban do it, 174 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 2: and everyone talks about the organization and the structure, how 175 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: important it is like that part of it. Being able 176 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: to give everyone task and assignments, what you demand from 177 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: the players, being consistent every day, all of those things. 178 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: When I look at these teams, one all that is 179 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: in place, organization and structure. But two, even the way 180 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: they recruit. DJ remember we went and we watched them 181 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: do pro days and he would say, yeah, there's a 182 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: reason why you don't put middleweights in the ring with heavyweights. 183 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: We always want to be the heavyweights. And you let's 184 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: look at how they look physically. That's why I understand 185 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: why the guys that you talked to and talked about 186 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: why they sated those three teams, because when they walk 187 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: out the building, when they walk out onto the field, 188 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: they look a little different than some of them teams 189 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: in the college landscape. 190 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: I want to have a conversation about some of these coaches. 191 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: If you wanted to identify one of these coaches in 192 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: the top twelve for an NFL gig next year, I'd 193 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: be curious to see who would be the top of 194 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: your list. Think about that for a second. We'll take 195 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: a break. We'll come right back. I want to have 196 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: that conversation right after this. All right, Buck, I'm gonna 197 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: give you the list of the names here. And it's 198 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: the reason I want to do this exercise is because 199 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: in talking to people connected to a lot of these coaches, right, 200 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: I'll just be totally transparent about it. You talk to 201 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the agents that represent these guys, and 202 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I said, okay, like, what are the at this point 203 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: in time that they were like, Oh, it's a Florida 204 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: job going to come open, and this morning or yeah, 205 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: yesterday morning it came out that billiy Napier's going to 206 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: be back. Scott Strickland, the athletic director at Florida, announced 207 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: that Billy Napier's is. 208 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: Going to be back. 209 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of these colleges are not 210 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: so willing to chuck all this money away and just 211 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: be paying people not to work there anymore. And I 212 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of that's because they've had to stretch 213 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: themselves with nil and all the money that's been infused 214 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: into their football programs, which I think is good. Give 215 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: guys time to build. But when this conversation was taking place, 216 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: I said, okay, some of these if some of these 217 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: top jobs pop open, you know, would this coach or 218 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: that coach? And it was interesting he said he rattled 219 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: off a bunch of these top guys and said they're 220 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: more interested in the NFL now, like the job hopping, 221 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: like getting a little bit better job. The college is 222 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: not what it was. They are more interested in the 223 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: NFL than they would be taking other jobs. So that 224 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: that led me to this thought. If I gave you 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: the list of these top twelve teams right now, and 226 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: you're an NFL team that's going to have an opening, 227 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: and every year we see what seven to ten of 228 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: these jobs open up. I don't know there's seven to ten, 229 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, candidates people are fired up about in the NFL. 230 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: Somebody from college is going to get a sniff. So 231 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: if I rattle off the list of these names, tell 232 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: me who would be the most intriguing as an NFL 233 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: head coach. You've got Landing Day, Kirby, Crystabaul Sark, James Franklin, 234 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: Hypel Signetti hockey freeman at Notre Dame debor Spencer Danielson 235 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: at Boise DJ. 236 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: I think you have to know the NFL to be 237 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: able to be successful. And the only reason I say 238 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: that is because Matt Rule and the fail he's able. 239 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: We've seen urban like if you don't know the NFL, 240 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: like you don't have a shot. So that kind of 241 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: brings me to Sark, who's had some experience in the NFL. 242 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: Offensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons for a couple of 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: years before we went back to college. So I would 244 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: say Sark would have to be a top. 245 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't Kirby with Nick he. 246 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: Was he was with saving. Yeah, he was with saving 247 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: in Miami. I think he might have been secondary coach's 248 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: coach him Musham would get there. The thing about Kirby 249 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: coming up DJ, he's a force of nature down at George, 250 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you could quote unquote work in Georgie. 251 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: I think personality matters, and I think Kirby's the best 252 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: and one of the best, if not the best coach 253 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: in college football right now. Day's got a NFL experience, Buck, 254 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: So that's why I was gonna say sorry and Ryan Day. 255 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: But I would say for both guys, the guys that 256 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: they're hired to come with them, their coordinators, their defensive 257 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: coordinators and some of those guys, they have to be 258 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: able to help them with the locker room, and then 259 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 2: the general manager has to be on his game, like, 260 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: because they're gonna need a lot of help. Like the 261 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: adjustment from college to pro is different. The funny thing 262 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: when we talk about this discussion, I understand nil than 263 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: the transfer portal has made the job different at the 264 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: collegiate level, But is anybody looking at the NFL game 265 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: and how quickly they're cycling to coaches robers. I mean like, like. 266 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why a lot of money in college. 267 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: You can make a lot of money for a long time. 268 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: I don't know why you want to jump into that 269 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: skillet that fright international Football League unless you're gonna get 270 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: a six year deal like Dan Campbell was able to 271 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: secure in some of these other guys. Know why you 272 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: would jump into the NFL with that? And you can't 273 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: recruit you don't get a quarterback. 274 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other one that has NFL experience obviously Marcus 275 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: Freeman Playton the NFL. 276 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still a different, different hustle. You just yeah, 277 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: he hasn't been a head coach a long time. If 278 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: you're going to if you're going to get the NFL job, 279 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: I kind of believe you can't learn the game and 280 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: how to be the head coach at the same time. 281 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: I feel like you got to have the head coaching 282 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: thing down while you're learning and adapting to the NFL 283 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: game to do both. To me, it is too much. 284 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: The one so looking at this exercise, the one that 285 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: makes the most sense to me if you're going to 286 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: boil this all down, because I think Texas at Sarks 287 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: got that. He's built that machine, that thing's rolling. I 288 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: just don't think he would do it. And I'm just 289 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: looking at it Ryan Day, and Ryan would have Chip 290 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: Kelly with him, who obviously has NFL head coaching experience, 291 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: so you'd have that would be kind of a package deal, 292 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: both of them coming together. The other thing is these 293 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: people are human beings. And Ryan Day lost a few 294 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: games to Michigan and I'm sure he will never say 295 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: it publicly, but I guarantee you as passionate as rabbit 296 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: as that fan base is. I'm sure his family has 297 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: stories of people saying stuff to them. I'm sure he 298 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: had to listen to it. I think he's got like 299 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: the highest winning percentage of anybody in like, you know, 300 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: college football history, with how many games he's won. He 301 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: just lost a couple of games to Michigan. I could 302 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: see him beating Michigan this year, going on making some noise. 303 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they win a national championship, but maybe they just 304 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: make a deep run and say, yeah, hey I didn't forget, 305 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah I took I got this thing back on track. 306 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: I beat Michigan, and you guys can have somebody else 307 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: to kick around. I'm going to go to the NFL. 308 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: That would be the one that would make the most 309 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: sense to me. 310 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. And it's funny. He's not 311 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: appreciated because of the one game, which is hilarious, right 312 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: people talking about him not you know, the last couple 313 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: of years they've been beat up by the team up 314 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: north and and that stuff, but they've won a lot 315 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: did a lot of winning, I mean a lot of winning. 316 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: He's really good with quarterbacks in those things that might 317 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: be intriguing. And he's kind of going down the rope before, 318 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: I think with some jobs or whatever. So it wouldn't 319 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: be a surprise to see him kind of get to 320 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: it and be like, you know what, you guys can 321 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: have the higher stage job and ready to bounce. 322 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hey. Maybe the other one is Signetti because 323 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: they've got you know, uh, he's got NFL coaching experience. 324 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: Signetti does. Now he's not young, but god darn, this 325 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: guy just wins, man, He just wins. 326 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: He does. He is so cocky, he is so funny. 327 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: But like I appreciate, I love it. 328 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I think it's I think, I don't think you until 329 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: an end of that I don't And this is like, 330 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: I'll give you the crossover there. So he is, uh, 331 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: let me let me just up. I'm pulling up his 332 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: bio here of where all he's been because he has 333 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: coached at Uh he is this with this is what? 334 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: This? 335 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: Was he with the Steelers? Is that where he was? 336 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: Let me see? 337 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: Yeah? Or was he just at the University of Pittsburgh. 338 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: I thought he had no Maybe it's his brother that 339 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: has NFL coaching experience. 340 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: There are there are. 341 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: His brother. 342 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they've definitely been some names. 343 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: But anyways, he's he's been around forever. The guy has one. 344 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: But I was thinking of him and you were talking 345 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: about like being cocky and just you don't take down 346 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: the giants like I'm I'm doing Charger games and I 347 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: know Jim Harbaugh is not going to say this on 348 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: the record, like maybe he would have when he was younger, 349 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: when he was at Stanford, but like, you don't come 350 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: in there. It's like the Brian Billick thing, right, you 351 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: don't tiptoe into the typical win there. You grab the 352 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: spear and say where is the blankety blank? Like I've 353 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: seen it. I've seen it in baseball with the Potterys. 354 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: People go the Potteris are so cocky and like, yeah, 355 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: you're not going to respect your way to beating the 356 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: Dodgers like they're the king of the mountain, the top 357 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: of the hill. Like you you have to have kind 358 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: of a screw you mentality. 359 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely something to that, as long as it's 360 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: authentic and that's your personality. He does have. He look, 361 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: he does not mess around. When he said all that 362 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: it assimbly, I was like, what, oh, yeah, Hio State mission, 363 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: We're going to get him. But he has said and 364 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: listening to him, he said, I've done this thing a 365 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: few times. I kind of know what it takes to 366 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: kind of get it done. And DJ not to know. 367 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: We got Writtle. You have Writt wearing Indiana hats every 368 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: day every time we see him on the podcast. So look, 369 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: who am I to say that he can't do it. 370 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see how many people call U. 371 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: But there's definitely going to be a trickle up thing 372 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: from the college game to the pro game because people 373 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: are rowing tired of dealing with high school kids and 374 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: college kids. When it comes to NIO the transfer portal 375 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: in the amount of money that's being exchange and a 376 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: pay for play situation that doesn't have a salary cap. 377 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: I almost wonder too, if this had existed, let's say 378 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: ten years ago, don't you think that like the coaches 379 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: that retired, and I'm talking about Coach K, I'm talking 380 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: about Saban, guys like that that have walked away, they 381 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: would have just gone to the NFL or the NBA 382 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: ten years ago. 383 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: Had been gone like whatever Coach K was off, whether 384 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: it was the Lake, I think it was the Lakers. 385 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: He got offered a ton of money. 386 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, he would have went undertaken and 387 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: build a program that was similar to that. The funny 388 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: thing is in all these situations, like we're talking about 389 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: building a program, you know, and what coaches would like 390 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: to do is build a program. The college game now 391 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: is about building a team. And the difference is a 392 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: team is for one year. A program is what you're 393 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: building over the la long haul. And it's so hard 394 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: to keep building a new team every year. Yeah yeah, 395 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: I mean it basically your in free agency every year 396 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: trying to re overhaul your entire team. Man, that is 397 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: that has a lot to do. You would like to 398 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: not always have to go back this step A step one, 399 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: start the process. 400 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: Autowheel a couple of thoughts on that game that I 401 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: was at real quick before we move on Michigan. The 402 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: two d tackles are outstanding. Mason Graham really good. Not 403 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: he's got you know, we talked about him a little 404 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: earlier week, short arms, but he's just really explosive Kley. 405 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: I mean he actually looked kind of he plays like 406 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins played at Clemson. He's not they're not the 407 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: same guy, but he's got some torque and some power 408 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: like that. Yet Kenneth Grant, who's next to him, who's massive, 409 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: you can see him growing into, you know, as a player. 410 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's going to turn into somebody like Dexter, like 411 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: he's got that. He's three hundred and forty five pounds 412 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: or whatever he is, and he's not fat. He can 413 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 1: really move very interesting. The tight end Lovelin is going 414 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: to be probably an f you know, just kind of 415 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: move him around and real athletic kind of that in 416 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: that same vein as is kind of Bowers. Not as 417 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: good as Bowers, but that role how they use him, 418 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: flex him out, split him out and can do a 419 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: lot of different things with them. Good player. Will Johnson 420 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: did not play, so didn't get a chance to see him. 421 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: A little disappointed about that, but I'm excited about him 422 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: watching the tape on him. And then on the organ side. 423 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: Their front seven is big. It's impressive. They've got, you know, 424 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: fifty five. They don't have the name in front of 425 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: me right now. The d tackle is excellent. He's like 426 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty pounds. He plays on the other 427 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: side of the line of scrimmage. He's really good. They 428 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: have it. They have there's a reason why they're number 429 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: one of the nation. They have an sec front like 430 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: it is very much in sec looking front where they're big, long, rangy, athletic. 431 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: DJ used a younger brothers a good player. 432 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: By the way. 433 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: Sure he's a really player. You've got him, and then 434 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't realize the quarterback was was that little? 435 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: He is not. 436 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: He is short like, he is not a big guy. 437 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: He's a great college player. He'll be a fascinating study. 438 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. In terms of the draft, I think more 439 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: probably like a Day three player. But you know, for 440 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: a college team, a college quarterback, he's perfect, absolutely perfect. 441 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: He's got a ton of experience to go along along 442 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: with it. In the little white out Tess Johnson, I 443 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: believe his name right. I'll get all these names as 444 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: we get deeper into the spring. But he's got some 445 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: tank Dell to him. I mean, he's dynamic, he's a 446 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: good player. Organs, that's a I mean they're number one 447 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: for a reason. That's a really really good looking team, really. 448 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: Good looking team. Dan Lanning has done a really good 449 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: job of picking up where Mario Cristaball left off. I 450 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: go back to Winning christ Ball, not the most recent episode, 451 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: but he's come on before and he talked about building 452 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: that team in Oregon and how he modeled the team 453 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: after those SEC teams that would dominate when he was 454 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: at Alabama. Landing coming from the SEC, knowing the landscape, 455 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: knowing what you have to do to be able to 456 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: win in that league also says you up for success 457 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: for national titles. They've done that. You talk about just 458 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: the way this team looks physically. They've changed tash Lapoy 459 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: being the defensive coordinator but also an outstanding recruiter. They 460 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: have NFL guys when they walk out the building. In 461 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: the past and the Chip Kelly era, it wasn't that 462 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: it was more scheme and different stuff that allowed them 463 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: to win. But now I'll say this, Oregon talent wise, 464 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: can go toe to toe with anybody in the country, 465 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: which is probably why they're number won in the country. 466 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think back to the time where 467 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: they were in that championship game, and on that team 468 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: you had Buckner and Armstead, who were too enormous NFL 469 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: first round talented dudes. On that front. They didn't have 470 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: everything else that Oregon has on this team in terms 471 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: of the offensive line as well as the skill and 472 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: a really you know, obviously a really good college quarterback. 473 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: They had a Mariota on that team, so they were 474 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: good at the quarterback position. But this is just there's 475 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: more of them getting that they've had a couple here 476 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: and there, and that that team was a national championship game. 477 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: So it's interesting to me. And I don't know, I'm 478 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: not going to use this to go and get into 479 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: a USC conversation, but it's fascinating to me. And I 480 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's just Phil Night. Maybe that's the answer. Maybe 481 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: it's Phil Knight and they've got a bigger budget for players. 482 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: But the USC front seven out here compared to what 483 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: the Oregon front seven looks like, that is not that's 484 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: not close. 485 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: I'm telling you man. In one day, DJ, I know 486 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: we are a we are a NFL podcast. However, much 487 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: like we go up under the hood, I would love 488 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: one day to have a discussion to go up under 489 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: the hood and just see what we would do if 490 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: we could fix USC. Because the fact that the Trojans 491 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: are not in that conversation with all of the resources 492 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: and things that they have available to them, not only 493 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: in LA, but in southern California to me is mind blowing. 494 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: One day, maybe put that slate to fix the Southern 495 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: cal trophy. 496 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, down the line, down the line, we'll have that conversation. 497 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned. It's a quick one today, Buck, anything else, 498 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: any other thought before we get out of here. 499 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: Nah man. Just looking forward to the week and some 500 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: good games on both sides, and we'll get back with 501 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: you guys next Monday when we recap the action from 502 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 2: what was it, week ten? 503 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, something like that. Let's go with week ten. 504 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for. I appreciate you guys. 505 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Right here on, Move the sticks.