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CNN primetime anger 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo is now being accused of sexual harassment in 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the pages of The New York Times, and not just 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: sexual harassment of anyone, but of his former boss yes, 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: So let's put this story up on the screen, which 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. It's titled Chris Cuomo's actually harrass me. 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: I hope he'll use his power to make change. The 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: woman in question is named Shelley Ross. I'll read you 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 1: the details of her version of the episode. She says 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: she was at a party with her husband. He sat 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: behind her on an autumn and sipping his diet coke 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: as I spoke with work friends. When mister Cuomo entered 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: the upper west side bar, he walked toward me and 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: greeted me with a strong bear hug, while lowering one 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: hand to firmly grab and squeeze the cheek of my buttock. 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: I can do this now that you're no longer my boss, 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: he said to me, with a kind of cocky arrogance. 34 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: No you can't, I said, pushing him off me at 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: the chest, while stepping back, revealing my husband, who had 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: seen the entire episode at close range. We quickly left. 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: So the crux of the article, by the way, isn't 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: for her to be like and I'm so dramatized. It's 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: for her to call out his hypocrisy for having pretended 40 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: to care so much about sexual her and expressing all 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: of this angst and chagrin about it, wearing this truth 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: t shirt in solidarity. Of course, we already know the 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: details of how he was helping his brother to overcome 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: his own issues with sexual harassment. But Sager, we were 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: talking about this. When I first read this, I was like, Ah, 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: this might be true. It might not be true, it 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: might be a little bit different. But she kind of 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: hasn't done to rights here because he sent her an 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: email after the fact. We can throw I think we 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: have the email we can put on the screen. The 51 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: headline is, now that I think of it, I am ashamed. 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Though my hearty greeting was a function of being glad 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: to see you. Christian Slater got arrested for a kind 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: of similar act, though born of an alleged negative intent 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: unlike my own, and as a husband, I can empathize 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: with not liking to see my wife patted as such, 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: So pass along my apology to your very good and 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: noble husband, and I apologize to you as well for 59 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: even putting you in such a position. Next time, I 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: will remember the lesson no matter how happy I am 61 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: to see you. What Okay, there's a lot going on here. 62 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: First of all, it's a bold move to grab your 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: boss's butt cheek in front of her husband. I'm gonna 64 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: i'd like a work at a work part. Yeah, there's 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: several layers to all of this. Then to send an 66 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: email apologizing for it, but also not really apologizing for it. 67 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: First of the husband, I love it. Yeah, it's like, 68 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: uh sorry, And also somebody was arrested, but I didn't, 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, do anything. But also I'm really sorry about that. 70 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what's the excuse. He's Italian. I mean, 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: it's like, is there a code in the Italian? Is 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: there an Italian code? And you're supposed to actually harass 73 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: your boss in front of her husband and then send 74 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: her a rambling and strange email. Also, do you notice 75 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: that was sent at six thirty pm. I'm like early 76 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: to start drinking there. I'm not sure what's going on 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: that what you were reading just saying. I did like 78 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: I appreciated the Christian slater. Christian slater, That's what I 79 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: haven't thought about in a long time. But yeah, I 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: mean I kind of liked the way that she framed 81 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: all of this, because again, she's not like she's saying, 82 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: there's a massive level of hypocrisy. Here, here's a guy 83 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: who's holding himself out as some great champion, courageous champion 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: and defender of women and advocate, you know, for women 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: who've been subjected to sexual harassment and sexual abuse. And 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: this is the way you've conducted yourself. And you know, 87 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: if he's doing this at a work party, this brazenly 88 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: with your boss, like, she's probably not the only one. 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Of course, this is not a one off kind of 90 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: an episode. And there have been other past rumors and 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: things that he's talked about. He's been caught on the 92 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: phone even talking about I think with like Michael Cohen 93 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: or whatever. But look, really what it is. She makes 94 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: this point. He was outwardly helping his brother trying to 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: survive the me Too scandals, advising him, helping write statements 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: and drafts while he was working at CNN. He used 97 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: his platform in order to propagandize on his brother's behalf 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: for his brother's failed response to COVID, then made up 99 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: some chicken shit excuse about, oh, I can't actually cover it, 100 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, whenever whenever he's in trouble, but I can 101 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: whenever he's not in trouble. And then you know, it 102 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: all comes to the head that it turns out that 103 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: behind the scenes he's a total and complete scumbag, or 104 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: at the very least was back in two thousand and 105 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: five whenever he exhibited some absolutely abhorrent and disgusting behavior. 106 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: A lot of this is just outward you know, moralizing, genuflecting, whatever, 107 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: but it just goes to show that and look, this 108 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: is the first time in his private life he's legitimately 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: off his rocker. I mean, what was that whenever he 110 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: did his fake emerging from the basement, but then it 111 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: turned out that he'd actually been outside and it was like, dude, 112 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: you have COVID, Like get the hell away from me. 113 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: Or whenever he went to go view a house in 114 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: the Hampton's or I remember doing a whole segment about it. 115 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, just the arrogance of this dude, and that 116 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: way he and his brother are so similar, like just 117 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: a titled You really think like you're a very famous person. 118 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: You think no one's gonna notice every you've told the world, 119 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: you're broadcasting from your basement, you've made your COVID diagnosis, 120 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: this whole big like thing, and you don't think anyone's 121 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna notice that you're outside walking around riding your bike, 122 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: I think is what he was doing. No one's gonna notice, 123 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: like the just level of arrogance of that, which is 124 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: also manifest in this little incident that you think you 125 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: can just like brazenly grab your boss's ass at a 126 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: work party and that's gonna be fine. It's not gonna 127 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: ever be a problem for you. I saw this type 128 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: of attitude, whether it was with regards to women or 129 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: anything else, so endemic within the TV cable news industry 130 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: that it is not surprising at all. James, our producer, 131 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: was like, at this point, he'd have to shoot someone 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 1: on Fifth Avenue to ad actually he still wouldn't. Pretty 133 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: good gumment. But I'm also like, this dude is not 134 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: all that special, Like, why are you going to such 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: links to protect him. I mean, he does have apparently 136 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: the highest ratings of CNN Primetime, which is no great feat. 137 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: Surely you could get some other like you know, pompous 138 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: blowhard to sit in the slot. Lord knows this, Plenty 139 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: of them out there could be happy to take the job. 140 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure why they're so aggressively defending this guy. 141 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: To the best of my knowledge, CNN hasn't said anything 142 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: about this story, and we know that they certainly didn't 143 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: punish him at all for directly advising his brother being 144 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: a political advisor, repeatedly on meetings with the campaign team, 145 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: the political people, and the lawyers through all of this, 146 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: lying to the CNN audience about what his involvement was. 147 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: They and he had no issue with him. I imagine 148 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: if somebody accused Tucker of this and had him dead 149 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: to rights in the PA with the email, with an 150 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: email where he acknowledged sexually harassing get the hell out 151 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: of it would be front page like absolute banner news. Cupg. 152 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: This just you know, floated into the ether and they're 153 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: going to ignore it like they always do every single 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: time You'll come up on the air. Probably takes some 155 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: fake vacation so that everybody everybody's try out about that 156 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: that's what's going on, and then it all comes back. 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: It's amazing to watch. It's disgusting really that these people 158 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: continue to get away with this stuff, especially when they're 159 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: moralizing something different to you every day. But unfortunately seeing 160 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: en viewers won't care because we're not going to hear 161 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: about it, So there you go, there you go. All right, 162 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: we'll have more for you guys tomorrow. All right, guys, 163 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: very excited. This is our inaugural partnership segment with The 164 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: Daily Poster and David Serota he joins us. Now, so 165 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: I explained this yesterday, but we're officially entering into a partnership. 166 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: We're going to do this weekly recurring segment to post 167 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: on Friday. Obviously, we're promoting it to our people. Your 168 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: incredible reporting that you can't find anywhere else. You're going 169 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: to push this segment out to your people. So great 170 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: little collaboration here that I'm very excited about. David. Welcome, 171 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: good to see you, David, Thank you, thanks for having 172 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: me solid. Yeah, of course, absolute, that's what this is 173 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: all about. So you have a great piece, you and 174 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: Andrew Perez. Let's go ahead and throw this up on 175 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: the screen. Look, we know the surface level negotiations with 176 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: regard to the Reconciliation Package and the Infrastructure Bill, but 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: what you have been getting at is what's really going 178 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: on the scene behind the scene, and what's really driving 179 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: these various characters to do what they're doing. In particular, 180 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: you focus here on Josh Gottheimer you describe as a 181 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: billionaire's democratic bagman. He is the House's top recipient of 182 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: private equity cash. David layout for us how that is 183 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: impacting his approach to the reconciliation bill. So, Gottheimer is 184 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: one of eight or nine House Democrats who's trying to 185 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: undermine the so called two track strategy, the strategy by 186 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: which the only way to really pass the reconciliation bill 187 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: is to keep it linked to that infrastructure bill. He's 188 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: one of the eight House Democrats who's trying to delink 189 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: the two bills and pass the infrastructure bill alone, which 190 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: would many believe would ultimately kill the reconciliation bill. Now, 191 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: as you said, as we report he is the top 192 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: recipient of campaign cash in the US House from private equity, 193 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: the private equity industry. The private equity industry, you will 194 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: not be surprised to learn, has lots of things that 195 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: it objects to in the reconciliation bill, particularly all of 196 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: the potential tax measures that could be in a final 197 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: reconciliation bill. Even more specifically, things like the carried interest 198 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: tax loophole, which is the loophole that allows private equity 199 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: mobiles to classify their income as capital gains rather than income, 200 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: and therefore pay a much lower tax rate on that 201 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: income than a typical American worker pays on their income. 202 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: There's also provisions in there raising taxes for billionaires. Obviously, 203 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: the private equity industry has lots of very, very wealthy 204 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: people in it. And of course, the private equity industry 205 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: has an incentive to only pass the Infrastructure bill because 206 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: in the Infrastructure Bill are provisions that are designed to 207 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: encourage and push state and local governments to fund infrastructure 208 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: projects through so called public private partnerships. An example, Blackstone 209 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: is a private equity giant that is Gotttheimer's number one 210 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: their donors or his number one campaign contributors. Blackstone is 211 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: heavily invested in the infrastructure world, is heavily interested in 212 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: those kinds of public private partnerships. And finally, Blackstone and 213 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: other private equity firms are very invested in the fossil 214 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: fuel industry. They have an incentive therefore, to not want 215 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: the Reconciliation Bill to pass. The Reconciliation Bills programs designed 216 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: to transition the country or begin transitioning the country away 217 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: from fossil fuels. Yeah, I mean so, David all layout. 218 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: You laid out very well about the private equity industry 219 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: and more. But Gotttheimer has been at the forefront of 220 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: a lot of wealthy giveaways, including the salt tax. Like 221 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: he has been the forefront at trying to bring back 222 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: tax deductions for the wealthy. I mean, he seems to 223 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: be almost all encompassed here. And my question is, can 224 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: you describe his district itself, like how out of step 225 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: is he with his own constituents. How is he pairing 226 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: these together and making it so he works on behalf 227 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: of the wealthy people. Well, look, it's a wealthier district 228 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. It is a Biden district. We should 229 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: mention that it is a certainly a swing district. But 230 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: Biden won that district. And look the things that he's 231 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: pushing for. Let's be clear. It's one thing to push 232 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: for sort of upper middle class tax breaks, sort of 233 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: upper middle class affluent giveaways to en be from a 234 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: district from there. I don't think that's good politics, but 235 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, I guess you could you could argue some 236 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: of that, but let's be clear, he's pushing for giveaways 237 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: that would mostly benefit like the crazy super ultra rich, 238 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: like the doctor, evil twisting the mustache, kind of villainous 239 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: giveaways to the super rich, right, like the carried interest 240 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: tax loophole is for a tiny handful of people. The 241 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: salt tax breaks that you're talking about, what the stat 242 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: is something like eighty percent of the benefits go to 243 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: the top ten or five percent of income earners in 244 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: the entire country. And I think it's fifty percent of 245 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: the benefits go to the top one percent of income 246 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: earners in the country. So these are not broadly shared 247 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: tax breaks even among the kind of top twenty percent, 248 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: top thirty percent. We're talking about a tiny handful of people. 249 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: And what I think that actually is the tell for 250 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: is that he and his colleagues who were with him 251 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: on this, they don't necessarily care about what's good for 252 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: their district. They care about what's good for the tiny 253 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: segment of the population that provides them with a disproportionately 254 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: huge amount of the money that they use to buy 255 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: their elections and their re elections, right and where they 256 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: may well go and work after they finish with their 257 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: public service quote unquote, And David, this isn't a one 258 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: off Gottheimer has been a handmaid into private equity for 259 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: a while now based on your reporting here, yes, absolutely, 260 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean he pushed for an expansion of FED programs 261 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: to give private equity firms more money during the pandemic. 262 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: He is somebody who has used a congressional hearing recently 263 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: to defend private equity and public pensions investing in private equity. 264 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of reporting on huge fees and 265 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: reporting on private equity firms basically fleecing public retirement systems. 266 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: He has been at the forefront of defending that industry. 267 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: And look again, I go back to the idea that 268 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: the reconciliation bill is a wildly popular bill. There's a 269 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: lot of congress people who support the reconciliation bill going 270 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: out there saying it's a wildly popular bill. But Gottheimer 271 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: is a good example of the fact that for the 272 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: folks who are trying to kill it, And let's be clear, 273 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: he has said, I'm not really not trying to kill it. 274 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get the infrastructure bill passed. But 275 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: clearly strategy would kill or at least make it easier 276 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: to kill the reconciliation bill. And what Gottheimer is kind 277 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: of proving is is that There are a lot of 278 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: these members who are trying to kill the bill who 279 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: don't really care if it's popular broadly in their district. 280 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: They are answering to the small segment of donors who 281 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: disproportionately bankroll their reelection campaigns. In other words, they're betting 282 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: that just having a huge amount of campaign cash will 283 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: allow them to buy election and reelection regardless of whether 284 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: they're voting down a very popular legislation. Yeah, I mean, 285 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: I think that's the stunning part here, which is that 286 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: the things that they're holding hostage, David, are you know, 287 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: literal giveaways, not just to the rich as you said, 288 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean the salt cap one. Yes, it impacts people 289 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: who are suburban, but the vast majority it just goes 290 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: to people with a net worth of over a million dollars. 291 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: And it just seems that that is what they are 292 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: holding the legislation hostage over, not anything principled, at least 293 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: from what I can tell. That's right, it's they're holding 294 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: the legislation hostage for the donor class. They are betting 295 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: they have a political formula that bets that nothing at 296 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: all matters nothing. It doesn't matter whether you're for or 297 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: against a popular bill. The only thing that matters is 298 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: having a giant war chest of campaign cash to simply 299 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: flood the airways with ads and buy election and re election. 300 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, you know, as horrible as it is, 301 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a I guess, politically ineffective strategy. They've 302 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: been able to do that for years and years and years. 303 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: But what this whole thing has shown is that the 304 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: corruption is now completely out in the open if you 305 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: just take a look at it. Now, not a lot 306 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: of media organizations are willing to follow the money, like 307 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: this should be the central thing that we're talking about, 308 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: that every media outlet is talking about these kinds of things. 309 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, the Democrats who vote down the drug bill, 310 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: their connections to the big pharma, gottheimer and private acty. 311 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: This should be the central point of discussion and the 312 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: reconciliation bill, but it's really not. It's barely part of 313 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: the conversation. It's part of the conversation here and in 314 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: independent media because it's important and it's frankly, what is 315 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: really actually in reality driving this legislative debate. Yeah, and 316 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: it's so infrequent that they ever get confronted with the 317 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: set of facts. It just gets to fly under the radar. 318 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm really waiting for the day we 319 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: have that popular grassroots uprising in favor of maintaining the 320 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: carried interest loophole. Sure, that's just around the corner, David. 321 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: Thank you for the great reporting. Very excited to have 322 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: our official partnership. Of course we've relied on your reporting 323 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: and your analysis for a long time now, but excited 324 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: to make it official. Thank you, my friends. Good to 325 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: see you, Man, Good to see you, Thanks to both 326 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: of you. Absolutely no problem. A lot more for you 327 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: guys this weekend. Hope you enjoyed that. We'll see you 328 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: back here officially for a full show on Monday. Hey, 329 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: so remember how we told you how awesome premium membership was. 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I wish we were in a world where 336 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton disappeared from politics, but she continues to tout 337 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: herself across the global stage as some sort of leader. 338 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: She was in Belfast in Northern Ireland in order to 339 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: give a chance or a commencement speech at Queen's University. 340 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: She was dressed up in the full regalia, but a 341 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: couple of people in Ireland served her a little reminder 342 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: of what they thought of her and what a lot 343 00:18:31,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: of people seem to Let's take a listen to that. 344 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: So funny. You know you're watching this because she she 345 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: put it out there is like being hailed abroad in 346 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: Northern Ireland. It was a big thing for her and 347 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: the clip the administration and she goes there. This is 348 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: the reception that famous soft power that she had whenever 349 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: she was Secretary of State. There's a lot going on. 350 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: I think within the clip. It's just funny and amazing 351 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: that she that they think, you know, even after all 352 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: this time, you can bring her here without all the 353 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: baggage of the Obama administration, Libya and more, and look, 354 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: it's all was just personally satisfying. Like when we showed 355 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: you that clip of a bush getting shot by an 356 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: Iraq war veteran, to see them directly confronted because the 357 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: most entitled woman on the planet really believes that she's in, 358 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, entitled to this, like being hailed. She looked 359 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: at her. She was dressed in like full regalia with 360 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: a little kid like holding, you know, dressed in almost 361 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: like colonial outfit. I thought, that's what we weren't supposed 362 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: to be about. So just it's humbling experience. Yeah, it's 363 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: interesting to think about the fall from grace of the 364 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: Clintons because you think about up until very recently. I mean, 365 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: they did the Clinton Global Initiative and everyone, everyone converged 366 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: on New York and this convening of all the global 367 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: lead and all the do gooders in the world, and 368 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: it was such a hot ticket, and it was such 369 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: a prestigious thing. And you would go in the lobby. 370 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: You'd see all these people, these power brokers, having their 371 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: meetings and wanting to be seen among the attendance. It 372 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: was like the hottest ticket in town. This was like 373 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: back in my MSNBC days, And I remember like people 374 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: at MSNBC would brag about getting an invite to this 375 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: or that event. Oh my god, the Clinton Global Initiative 376 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: is a big media event. All of this, I mean, 377 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: but all of these global donors, all these heads of 378 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: nonprofit organizations, Nobel Prize winners, business leaders, all of them 379 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: would converge on New York, and of course Hillary and 380 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: Bill and Chelsea were the center of the show. This 381 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: was this whole world that they'd created for themselves where 382 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: they got to be cossetted and feted and adored, sucked 383 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: up to and now when you actually leave your little 384 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: cosseted confines of whatever bubble you've constructed around yourself, this 385 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: is the response that you've seen. And I think that 386 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: this kind of like reimagine, not really reimagining, but actually 387 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: reckoning with the truth of the Clinton legacy. This has 388 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: obviously been going on for quite a while where Bill 389 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: has either been very defensive about parts of his legacy 390 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: he's actively apologized for certain parts of his legacy. And 391 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: then the other piece of this is is, you know, places, 392 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: a lot of rural areas of America had a pretty 393 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: strong affinity for the Clintons. It used to be that 394 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: Bill would get rolled down into more red areas, more 395 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: rural areas because his very first campaign, before he actually 396 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: cut into office and did anything, he ran in this 397 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: very populist way that I feel your pain all of that, 398 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: and so one very specific example that I happen to 399 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: know about having lived in Kentucky is he used to 400 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: be very popular, like in the mountains of Kentucky, and 401 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: he went there during Hillary's campaign and was just absolutely 402 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: booed and resortably right from the people who were there 403 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. He was apparently pretty shocked by that, 404 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: because he still has this image of himself as like 405 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: this populace, this person who's beloved in rural America and 406 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: in the heartland and all of that, and it's just complete, 407 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: completely soured and could not possibly be further from the 408 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: truth at this point. No, absolutely right, But they'll continue 409 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: to act as if that's not the case when they've 410 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: enriched themselves to the tune of like hundreds and millions 411 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: of dollars and you know, still wanted to prance about 412 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: the world and be fetted. But their day is over, 413 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: So there we go, there you go, all right, all right, guys, 414 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed the day. We'll have more for you tomorrow. Wow, 415 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: you guys must really like listening to our voices. Well, 416 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: I know this is annoying. Instead of making you listen 417 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: to a Viagra commercial. When you're done, check out the 418 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: other podcast I do with Marshal Kasoff called the Realignment. 419 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: We talk a lot about the deeper issues that are changing. 420 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: Realigning in American society. You always need more crystal and 421 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Zag in your daily lives. Take care, guys. South Dakota 422 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: Governor Kirsty nom getting herself into a little bit of trouble. Here. 423 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: A new investigation from the Associated Press, let's put this 424 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: up there on the screen, sees that as her daughter 425 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: stought a state license, Gnomes sum into the agency head. 426 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: Now the facts of the matter here are amazing. Nome's daughter, 427 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: Cassidy Peters, obtained a real estate certification after she failed 428 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: the exam. She then summon governor and Christinomes summoned to 429 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: her office, the state employee who ran the agency, the 430 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: woman's direct supervisor, and the state's labor secretary. The daughter 431 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: was also in attendance at the meeting. So all of 432 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: this is so that Chirsty Nomes's daughter could become a 433 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: certified real estate appraiser. And during this entire thing, the 434 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: labor secretary herself called the agency head to demand her retirement. 435 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: According to now, what is all being alleged in an 436 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: age discrimination lawsuit. So all of this transpired in July 437 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. Now to be clear, you know, there's 438 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: the denial. They say the Associated Press is disparaging the 439 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: daughter in order to attack the governor. But no wonder, 440 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: the America's trust in the media is in an all 441 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: time low. Now look, I ain't got no faith in 442 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: the media, but you ain't denying anything here. Whenever it 443 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: comes to this, here's the facts as we see them. 444 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: Daughter fails a real estate appraiser exam, doesn't get a license. 445 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: The governor calls in her civilian staff all the way 446 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: up the chain of command, the employee, her boss, and 447 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: then that person's boss, and pressures them in order to 448 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: give her daughter a license, which she then gets the license. 449 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: Now appraising, that's you know, that's some pretty good money there. 450 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: They literally require you to do it. So you're one 451 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: of those people. You've got the state accreditation, you've got 452 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: to you know, incoming cash flow. Looks like a governor's 453 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: daughter's only twenty six years old. Really, this isn't about her. 454 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: This says about her mom abusing her office in order to, 455 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, specifically, make her family pass state for hurdles 456 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: and make more money. It's a stunning, stunning accusation, and 457 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: once again she doesn't deny it, at least in terms 458 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: of yeah, she just she does their whole right, you know, 459 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: right wing talking points, but doesn't actually it's like whether 460 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: to do it or not? Yeah, be like, well, okay, 461 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: meeting happened. What happened at that meeting. The thing that's 462 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: really funny to me about it is like just how 463 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: low level the criminals like your daughter could just take 464 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: the test again? You know, you have to go to 465 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: a normal person a lot of like be and normally Okay, 466 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: you didn't do well the first time, try again. I'm 467 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: sure there's a process by which you can study and 468 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: go apply again and take the test again, better luck 469 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: next time, like every normal person. So that's something that's funny, 470 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: which also raises the question of, like, if you're willing 471 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: to go to these links for this incredibly minor setback 472 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: in your daughter's life, what else are you willing to do? 473 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: What else are you using state resources for? Is another 474 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: question that I have here. It also reminds me of 475 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: some of the stuff with Joe Manchin and his daughter 476 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: say this is par for the core stuff. Don't think 477 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: it's just a Republican. Oh does this, Yeah, of course not. 478 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: And the thing in particular, I mean, first of all, 479 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: so his daughter, Heather Brush, she ends up being the 480 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: CEO of this pharmaceutical company, gets multimillion dollar golden parachute 481 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: jack's at the price of EpiPens. All, you know, all 482 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: of this nefarious dealings. But it all starts she gets 483 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: a fake MBA from West Virginia University shortly after Daddy 484 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: is elected governor, where they just outright like invent classes 485 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: that she never went to, invent grades that she never received. Ultimately, 486 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: people had to resign in all of this to grant 487 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: her this fake MBA. And then, of course, the way 488 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: that she originally got the gig at this company that 489 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: she wasn't qualified to work with is because Daddy knew 490 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: the founder and they happened. I think they were hanging 491 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: out at some sort of sporting event or whatever, and 492 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: that gets her in the door. So as happens. One 493 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: might also think about Hunter Biden and some of the 494 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: way that he's benefited from Daddy's name and proximity to 495 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: Daddy and all of that. But it's it's there's something 496 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: funny about the fact that it's such a kind of 497 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: low level things, such a minor real tell you like 498 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: a multimillion dollar deal, like modest middle class income, right exactly. 499 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, what's going on really interesting there is 500 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's going to be an investigation. She says 501 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: that she's going to recuse herself whatever. But look, these 502 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: certified appraisers, they can launch their own businesses. They can 503 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: make more than fifty thousand dollars a year, like I said, 504 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: inside of the state of South Dakota. Yeah, it's not bad. 505 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: And you know she Peters, the person who was working 506 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: as a state registered appraiser, she actually worked under the 507 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: supervision to apply for her own apply for her own certification. 508 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: It's actually not an easy hurdle that you're supposed to 509 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 1: be able to pass. Applicants have to show that they 510 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: can perform them to national standards and putting us to 511 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: two hundred hours of classroom education and months of experience. 512 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: So she was denied based on all of that criteria. 513 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: As you say, look, a normal person was like, okay, 514 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, got to go back to the drawing. I 515 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: got to do a little bit more. Yeah, you know, 516 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: show that I can pass the test or whatever, and 517 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: then you know all of this. It looks, you know, 518 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: pretty much like to have them head to rights. Like 519 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: this person got a text saying be ready to go 520 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: to the government governor's office, be ready to discuss appraiser 521 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: certification procedures. Having the daughter herself be present at that meeting. 522 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Your boss is boss personally there. Then somebody gets fired 523 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: for not doing this. This is a class. This is 524 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: like a trooper Gate. Remember that whenever? Yeah, Sarah Palin, Yeah, yeah, 525 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: fired some trooper. I was thinking about that exact same like, yeah, 526 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: what is it about the Republican females? Read up all 527 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: the specific details of trooper Gate. Yes, it was exactly 528 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: like trooper Gate. So there we go. We'll see it 529 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: what the investigation finds. But not a good look for Missnow. 530 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: All right, y'all, enjoy your day. We'll have more for 531 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: you later. One more thing, I promise. Just wanted to 532 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: make sure you knew about my podcast with Kyle Kolinski. 533 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: It's called Crystal, Kyle and Friends, where we do long 534 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: form interviews with people like Noam Chomsky, Cornell West, and 535 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: Glenn Greenwald. You can listen on any podcast platform, or 536 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: you can subscribe over on substack to get the video 537 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: a day early. We're going to stop bugging you now 538 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: enjoy interesting find from le Fong. Let's go ahead and 539 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: throw his tweet there up on the screen. So factory 540 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: farms that are producing pork have hired a Republican pr 541 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: firm to spin new animal welfare regulations in California as racist, 542 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: using the disparity fallacy that is popular with liberals. People 543 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: of color eat pork, so any price increase disproportionately hurts minorities. 544 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: He links to a story here from Civil Eats, and 545 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: the backstory here is there's a proposition that pass in California. 546 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: It's animal welfare. And you might have heard these sort 547 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: of fear mongering stories about like, oh my god, there's 548 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: gonna be no bacon, there's going to be no pork, 549 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: or the costs are going to go through the roof, 550 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. All of this, or much of 551 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: it at least planted by industry groups that are worried 552 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: about having to comply with these new animal welfare regulations. 553 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: And so their newest spin on this entirely predictable is 554 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: to plug into people's genuine concern for equity and racial 555 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: justice and argue that this animal welfare legislation is racist 556 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: because minorities disproportionately eat pork, so we can't have any 557 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: price increases here. And by the way civilians goes through, 558 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: the purported price increases have been much overstated, by the way, 559 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: and the producers can certainly adjust to the new regulations 560 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: if they so choose. They don't have to pass on 561 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: all the costs of the consumer. And oh, by the way, 562 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: they don't seem to care so much about racial justice. 563 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: And you know people mattering and treating people of color 564 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: well when it comes to their own work, Lisa, what 565 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: about their own work or unportionately immigrants, minorities and who 566 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: work in the I mean, these jobs are the most difficult, brutal, 567 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: dangerous jobs in the entire country. We covered how pork 568 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: processing planstern virus. I mean, these were hotbeds of illness 569 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: because they were forced to come into work sick. They 570 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: fight against minimum wage increases for these people. So police 571 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: with the idea that they care at all about people 572 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: of color in this country. I know people have worked 573 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: on the chicken line and more. It is oh, it 574 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: is absolutely a joke. What these people have to go 575 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: for literally nothing and are treated terribly both by the 576 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: employers and look, I mean the animals too. I'm going 577 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: to focus on the people obviously, but you know, factory 578 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: farming is a scourge on the country. It's something that 579 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: we all just overlook because people like cheap meat. But look, 580 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: and in terms of all of this, this is all 581 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: complete bs. I actually do think California should have done 582 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more to address any of the disruptions 583 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: in the supply chain on the meat, on the on 584 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: the price side, just because we already have all these floors, 585 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: supports and more for the meat industry. And what these pork, 586 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: these factory farm producers are doing is they're trying to 587 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: weaponize again, like you said, people's good will towards saying, hey, 588 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, when stuff goes up at the dinner table, 589 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: this means like maybe less for my kids, This means 590 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: less of my wallet, this means my less my ability 591 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: to do this while also making them necessarily have to choose, 592 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: and I don't think we should have to choose. It's 593 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: a false choice. Even the amount of price support that 594 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: we have for these fake industries here in this country, 595 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: agriculture and more, I think we can find a little 596 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: bit in order to make the price go down for 597 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: the actual people having to buy meat or bacon or whatever. 598 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: But look, it's the final example of how woke politics 599 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: is used so effectively by these businesses in order to 600 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: push it in whichever direction that they want. And you know, 601 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: Wall Street they have some new thing. I think it's like, 602 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: you can't go public on the Nasdaq unless you have 603 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: one like female or black or board member or whatever. 604 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, is that going to change the way that 605 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: they conduct themselves whatsoever whenever it comes to bilking another 606 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: company or their workforce. No, it's not same thing here 607 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: they're going to use. And this is the best thing 608 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: is these are republican firms who can see the salients 609 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: of this and are like, oh, we'll just use this 610 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: and push it out. Here's the thing that could work. 611 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: And if you actually care about even animal welfare, to me, 612 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: you know the actual people who are affected by the 613 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: price increase, and I think they matter above all, then 614 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: you have to really, you know, call this stuff out 615 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: whenever you see it. It is just so disgusting, like 616 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: the weaponization of it. But that's what a lot of 617 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: this has come down to is that they can use 618 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: the disparity stuff in order to, you know, like hijack 619 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: people's brains and be like, oh god, you know we 620 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: have to fight against this. Who benefits? You know who benefits. 621 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: It's the actual factory farmers. They're just going to They 622 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: just want to make more money, that's it. Yeah, they 623 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: don't want to pay their workers well, They certainly don't 624 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: want to treat the animals well. They don't care about 625 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: the people who might have to suffer through a price increase. 626 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: They don't care about any of it. They just care 627 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: about their bottom line. And as you point out, the 628 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: added layer here that it's a Republican that is Republican 629 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: pr firms just shows you how incredibly cynical all of 630 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: this ultimately is so good. Little fine there from Lefong 631 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: showing the way that these people think and operate. That's right, 632 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Lee, appreciate it all right, guys, have a 633 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: good day. We'll have more for you later. Thanks for 634 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: listening the show, guys, we really appreciate it. To help 635 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: other people find the show, go ahead and leave us 636 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: a five star rating on Apple Podcasts or wherever you 637 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Really helps other people find the show 638 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: as always special. Thank you to Supercast for powering our 639 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: premium membership. 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