WEBVTT - EXCLUSIVE: Pascal Sets the Record Straight 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:03.840 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batter Happy Hour. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.160 I'm Joe and I'm Serena and. 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:11.000 We are here with Pascal. Pascal, welcome to batter Happy Hour. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:11.480 How are you? 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.640 Thank you? Thank you for having me here. I'm feeling 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:15.080 very good. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.840 Thank you, feeling good. How's how's life in you know? 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:19.760 I'm from Chicago. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:21.920 Which one of Chicago your phone? 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.599 So I'm from a town called Melrose Park. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.320 Okay, on the West Meadows Park. Yeah, I live downtown 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.800 Chicago with Lincoln Park, but my businesses were in downtown 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.440 on Well glen View and glen Coo and Buck Town. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.160 Yeah, okay, how you like Lincoln Park? 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.720 I love you Park, I love I love the fact 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.760 that I'm about five minutes away from the heart of downtown, 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.640 but I have the piece and quiet of the Sabus, 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.480 So Lincoln Park is a great place to live. Yeah. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.760 I like that area too, That's my favorite area. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.120 Are you from Chicago too? 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.480 Am I from Chicago too? No? I'm from Toronto, Canada. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.600 But when Joe and I got together, he was living 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.480 in Chicago. He was in the West Loop, so we 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:02.800 spent quite a bit of time there. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:04.960 Yeah, the West LOOPID do you see what happened is 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.520 the West Loop? Mean it's bobs pull me, pull me still, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.600 whole nightclub. I mean, it's just she's crazy. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.600 And I remember when it was when it was just 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:14.679 the meatpacking district. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.080 Thank thanks us to get there. Usual to be a 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.280 couple of places to go, and the rest was like, Wow, 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.959 what's going on? You've seen what happened with it nights? 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:23.600 It's man badly. Yeah. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.080 How long have you been in Chicago for? 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.960 I've been in Chicago since nineteen eighty, so I've been 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.840 there for quite a long time, almost forty some years. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:32.679 Forty four years. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:37.360 Wow, Okay, we have to uh when we're we're coming 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.760 in town for we live in New York, but we're 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.600 coming in town for Thanksgiving. We have to come to 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.479 your your Salonoi. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.160 And I love to take you at for Gina and 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.560 show you'll beat you know, Chicago. But I would love 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.160 to take you at for Gina if you're in town, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.000 you know it. It'd be fun to show you'll beat 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.280 my Chicago. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.400 You know, do you do you have a do you 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.520 have a favorite French restaurant in Chicago? 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.720 You know what French is? Actually it's a passive food. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.760 Now it's not really what's selling. It's more like a 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:12.040 Greek fusion Middle Eastern. That's what the trendy is. I mean, 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.280 there is a restaurant who opened a couple of restaurants 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:20.000 open thirty. One is Obelix, which is and then they 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:26.239 open another one which is a which is a bench restaurant. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.720 And I've used the Mona migab, which is a classic. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.480 It's been there for years. But it seemed like, no, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:36.600 it's more like a fusion, like Greek fusion Middle Eastern. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.160 That that's not what's selling in Chicago. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.679 Now, Yeah, okay, that's that's good to know. How let's 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.679 get into the show. How did you wind up on 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.600 a show like The Golden Bachelor atte so. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.520 So that was very interesting. I ended up able ass 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:56.560 ship over three years, and my daughter thought that would 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.679 be a great bachelor. Okay, she said, Dad, in the show, 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.919 I don't is very much into the Bachelor and the 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.880 Bachelor and all that stuff. And she'd be quite honest 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.240 with you. Me and I haven't with Ben watching the show, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.079 so don't you know, I said, it's not sometime I'm 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.760 usually watched, but now I'm hooked up to it. So 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.560 my daughter said you be, you should be in the Bachelor. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:22.400 You your personality, look you, you your lifestyle. They love you, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.880 they love you, they love you. I'm gonna apply for you. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.400 And then asking me tons of questions and then all 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.760 of a sudden, and she called me about three weeks 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.839 later and said that I hope you're gonna be mad. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.720 I said with my daughter, and my older daughter is 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.120 always what did you do? Okay? And she said to me, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.200 I sign you up for the Golden Bachelor of it? 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.680 I said, what is the Golden Bachelor? That that's the 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.480 buildboard of the Bachelor. But I never really watched. So 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.440 said that you you should do it. You should do it, 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.960 you should. I said, Natalie, let me look at the show, 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.120 let me see if it's something I want to do, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.720 and then we'll talk about it. So I come up 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.960 the next day. I talk to my manager Alissa, which 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.440 you see a couple of years ago, and I said, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.080 what do you think if I go in the Bachelor? Pascal, 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.400 you definitely that that's that's Upurely, I said, okay, So 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.600 I went home that night. I watched three episodes of 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.840 the Golden Bachelor until John exist and I get the message. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.720 I understand the concept is one guy, twenty five woman, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.160 twenty five woman, one guy. So I said, okay, that's 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.600 I get the concept. So I come back the nexist 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.120 and so what you're going to do? I said, I 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.840 don't know. I want to know who's going to be 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.520 the bachelor of it, because you know, I mean, I'm 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.400 kind of picky kind of guy, you know, me, and 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.360 I just I have my I have my my, my, 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.200 my fans. So I said, you know, she said, there 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.040 is anyone you like in the show? I said, yeah, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.280 there's a couple of women I'll be interested, but the 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:48.000 rest really know, you know. So so the the agent 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:49.800 called me and said, so are you signing you up? 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.040 Are you sign you up? And I said no, no, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.719 I'm not signing up until I know it is because 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.039 I don't want to go into the show and pretend 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:00.120 to be sometimes I'm not. So they finally called a 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.640 few weeks later, after going to all the processes in them, 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.320 and they said to me, that's John. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:06.040 Are you in? 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.240 I said yes, I mean so, And that's how going 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.239 into the Bachelor nice? 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.360 Who was Who are the other other women that you 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:15.520 potentially would have been. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.520 Interested in the one with the gray hair, that pretty 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:23.080 woman with the gray hair. Yes, yes, that she's attractive. 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.040 You know, I said, because I couldn't go into the 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.000 show and she's pretend. I don't need fame and glory. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.480 I have femine glories, you know. I just wanted to 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.600 go there and see if there is a potential and 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.240 and and and the experience as well. I think it's 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.920 it's it's quite a you know, in my age to 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.560 be able to do that, it's it's quite a you know, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:42.200 I'm grateful. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.880 You know, what was what was dating life for you? 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.400 Like before you went on the Golden Match? 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:55.080 Honestly, yeah, no problem. I have no problem, and David 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.279 has never been my problem. My problem is the wrong 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.160 choice of women. And you know, there is a lot 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:07.160 of alcohol involved, which I don't drink. Uh, And that's 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.719 the biggest issue, I think, the wrong seous of woman. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.960 But dating has never been probably. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.080 Okay, yeah, but if you're going on a date in 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.240 Chicago with a woman, what do you usually do? 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.040 I mean, uh, I like good food, so I would 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.840 go to a nice restaurant and you know, maybe on 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.920 a seven day maybe go to a player or you know, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.160 I mean a symphony or you know, or maybe go 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.360 to a jazz club or you know. I mean, I'm 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:39.280 very wasteful about dating. I think I utilize the city 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.600 very well. So I have all my connection in some 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:47.400 good restaurant and and the music. You know, I like musical, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.240 I like, you know, I like concert, like like I 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.080 just want to see Sebastian last week. So you know, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.320 I'm always doing something, a book in. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.520 Advance, probassion, Sebastian, Menescalco, the Communitans. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.200 So maturally at corner of the Bachelor with Miguel to do, 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.720 I will selling him for a week. And that's tried 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.680 to show you a bit Chicago. And so I went 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.640 to see Sempasian and I took him to a bag 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.440 game on the field. So it was kind of fun, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:14.160 good time. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.920 Yeah, yeah, how long have you have you always not 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:18.320 drank alcohol. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:24.280 I've never drink alcohol. I've left them in nineteen seventy four. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.320 Now I left them in nineteen seventy nine something like 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.000 that and joined my training in France. As you know, 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.440 military is military. You got to do it for one 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.680 year before the age twenty one unless you have a 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.520 higher education. So when I was in the army, I 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.240 drink I smoke, and I was screwed up every day. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.880 And then when I left game and nineteen years old, 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.280 I said, I'm down. And I haven't touched alcohol since 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.680 since I'm nineteen years old, not because of a recovery alcoholics, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.400 I choose not to. I like to be in control. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.320 I like to see my surrounding and I don't need 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.400 alcohol or drugs to get me where I am. And 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.560 I'm already on the high as it is, you know. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.400 So if I was drinking or doing drug or be 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.640 out of control. So and and I had a business 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.360 at a very young age, and I was very responsible 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.040 when I was committed to succeed it. And you can't. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.840 You can't succeed when you party too much. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.840 Probably why you're aging so well too, So that's probably 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:21.960 why you're aging so well. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.360 Also, thank you, and then walk on to the gym 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:25.400 and eat good food. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:27.320 Take take care of yourself. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.160 Yeah. Try, you know, buddies your temple and you get 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:31.920 it to kill it. What you give is what you get, 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:32.319 you know. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.600 So let's let's go to that first that first night 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.760 out of the limo, you step out of the limo, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.200 you see Joan for the first time in person, what's 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:41.959 going through your mind in that moment? 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.079 And you know it's as you know, I wasn't the 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.280 first one stepping about the limo and the show that 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.160 showed me the first one. I was the fIF guy 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.199 stayed up in a limo when I saw Joan offended 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.679 that she was very attractive, very well put together a 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.040 wear of beautiful dress, and I said, wow, ken of 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.400 I'm onto the stage. She's got my attention, and I 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.199 went and talked to her for a couple of minutes. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.840 I produced myself and then I went to the mansion 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.439 and guy keep pupping and pupping and papping, pupping, and 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.760 I said, oh, okay, this is a lot of people 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.120 in the you know, where where where do I stand? 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.480 So when you have that group of people, you try 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.439 to find bit your pee who you feel comfortable with. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.920 So it was kind of interesting because we engage a 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.160 lot of conversation with everybody to try to find out 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.719 the connection. And then I see them all going to 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.160 the bar and start drinking and start getting loose, and 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.480 I'm looking, I said, okay, who is who? You know? 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.079 I was trying to figure out a bit my surrounding. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.520 So it was interesting to see that they come from 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.680 different background, they come in different on side, different shape, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:47.400 which is very interesting. So then then then John comes 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.679 up and then she started talking to all of us 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.000 and then have you seen They asked me to be 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.480 the first one to take her out to talk to her, 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.120 which I didn't want to because I felt like I 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.719 didn't want to sound like the frenchick grace a guy. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.280 You know, I'm not more passive than aggressive. And so 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.559 I took John and I was on Father's Days, so 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.040 my son gave me a cart of of you know, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.800 I raised my son from the aging as a single parent, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.200 So he gave me a card and I read her 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:16.959 the cart and I and I said to her, and 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.559 have a lot of respect for you because I know 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.760 that you were in the show and you left because 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.760 of a family emergency, and that's really what attracted me 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.600 to you, because you have strong family values and that's 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:32.000 important to me and that's why I'm here. And you know, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.560 we have a nicer conversation. And then she went from. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.520 You know, how did you did you feel did you 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.959 feel a spark or a connection with her? From that? 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.959 And I think I felt definitely. Then what what what 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.800 I felt remarkable about her. She is very engaging. She 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:53.120 was able to ask questions and engage your conversation. It 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.839 was easy. Some people are very difficult, you know that. No, yeah, no, 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.120 she was very engaged in meent that very attractive on 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.959 a woman, a woman who couldn't handle the conversation. 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.640 You get one of the first one on one dates 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.000 very early on in the season. How was that? Were 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.120 you nervous about it? Were you excited? 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.240 Me and I have the serve on one on one days? Actually, 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.800 because I think Chuck had the first one. Chuck into 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.959 his house, and then I went to Vegas. I think 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.520 I think I was. I was flattered because I didn't 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.600 think I've met that big of an impact on her, 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.560 you know, I mean, I think I spent five minutes. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:41.040 I think a kid got the first impression. Roles so 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:42.920 and I look at kid and I look at me 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.760 and we completely opposite kind of guys. So I said, okay, 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.840 so maybe I'm not going to be here that long 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:53.120 because if that she like kid, and I'm gone about 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.840 a couple of holes from here, I'm going back home. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.120 And then when she announced me that she wanted to 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.319 go with me on the date, I was very excited. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:05.160 Because that give me the chance to get to know 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:09.000 her and have a conversation on and off the camera. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.240 And then I had the overnight date, which is had 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.880 I think I have the longest date with her because 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.520 we went to Vegas and you know, went to to 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.160 the Parist Hotel, we had dinner the Fairies Wheel, and 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.240 then we came back the next day together. So it 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.959 was it was very interesting because I get to know 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:28.959 her a little bit more on a personal level. I 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.280 was able to ask you a question about husband and 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.440 how long passed away, what was he doing, the children, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.280 and a little bit know a little bit about her life. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.120 So it's like you're peeling an onion, you feel the layer. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.240 So I felt like after our trip, we knew he 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.959 shot a little bit better, and I definitely felt like 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.920 she had there is there was chemistry between us, you know, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.839 I think she was attracted to me. I think I 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:58.000 think she lacked my personality because I was trying to 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.760 make your forgive every done and just enjoying the moment 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.959 versus talking about my past, which I had to do 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.800 your own the dinner to show at a bit where 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.280 I come from. But it was kind of a fun night. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.679 It was lucky. She just getting it to shadow and 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.280 just she started joying the evening and then that that's 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.400 I feel comfortable with it. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.880 Yeah, we saw you open up to her about your past, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:25.080 your childhood, how you grew up. How was it sharing 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:26.360 that with her and how do you feel like she 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:26.880 received it? 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.920 You know, it's not easy for me to open up. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.959 I think I'm putty, reserve and very how you call. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.720 I don't like people to know much about who I am, 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.199 where I come from, because that's that's not something I 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.000 share often with people. But I thank you. I wanted 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.640 her to know that I'm not used to design her 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.120 kind of guy, whether you know, just this wasn't given 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.920 to me. I work for it where I come from 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.440 and needed her to understand where I come from, where 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.000 my child was, you know, I mean, you know, my 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.440 parents didn't believe much in education, and you do something wrong. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.680 Is the is the shoes, the belt of the broom, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.800 and that's the way they control you. And you know, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.000 when I left France, I was very angry. I was upset. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.240 I hated my parents for who they were, and then 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.080 you know, it took me many years to forgive them 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.440 because I understood where they come from. This is the 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.480 way they were waste. So they raised me the way 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.520 they were waste. But that marked me during my lifetime, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.800 that that made me where I am. And so it 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.560 was very hard for me to open up and share 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.400 that with her, but I knew I needed to do 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.120 that because I didn't want her to have the impressions. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.760 And I'm the beach guy who come up from a 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:45.880 golden spoon and and I'm you know, so it was 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.880 important for me for her to know then life wasn't 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.400 like that when I grew up and I walked to 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:54.920 build the lifestyle I have today. 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:00.600 So a self made man like yourself, who's worked really hard, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.040 and I'm assuming you have you have nice things in 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.600 your life, what was it like living in a bunk 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:08.800 bed with a bunch of guys. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.880 So, so, you know what, this is a very interesting 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.760 question because first of all, I didn't you know. I mean, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.440 I'm my son naive, okay. But when they said the mansion, 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.000 and I've been to Mention in the past, okay, where 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.040 there is a butler, where there is a housekeeper, where 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.840 there is a maid, cook and everything. So when they 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.320 were talking to Mention, I thought the mansion was coming 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.560 with the staff, was taking care of tents for you, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.080 you know, like cooking, cleaning and stuff like that. And 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.080 then and then I realized was nothing like that. And 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.120 I'm not really your domesticated kind of guy. You know, 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.000 I don't do much of show at home, you know, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.200 I mean, I e ninety nine percent of the time. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.520 I didn't out that dining out to have a housekeeper 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.080 who come up a couple of times a week to 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.600 take care of my apartment. You know, I'm very rarely 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.600 a go grosing, so you know, there's nothing in my fridge. 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.520 My pats and pants steal in the box for the 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.400 last twelve years. So it was. It was also when 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:10.160 I moved into the mansion and they give me the room. Honestly, guys, 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.160 I had in an anxiety attack. I had a flashback 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.800 of where I came from, and it was scary to me. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.520 I didn't show it, so I tried to fake it 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.720 up by coming up with the clothes and the bullsheit. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:26.680 But I had such an anxiety because I said, I'm 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.440 back to where I come from, and I didn't know 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.960 those guys, So I said, am I going to handle that? 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.120 And and I never showed my fear because I didn't 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.560 want them to see that, but I had. It was 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.400 it was difficult. And then and then I said, Pascal, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.320 you got to stick with the program. This is the 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.320 way they go with the flow. It's a short period 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.120 of time. You'll get used to it a little bit. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:53.640 And I'm my laundry, my cooking, and I didn't want 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.320 to sound like the Prima donna, you know, but so 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.920 I asked guys if you could help me with the laundry, 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.440 asked Mark to help he was cooking, and and he 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.080 ended up being an incredible experience. And I mean it 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.760 was just you know, if somebody said to me, would 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.639 you do it again? Definitely? I think he was. It 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.760 was an incredible experience for me, you know. And and 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.240 he took my fee away from me, so that I know. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.760 I never been to camp. Okay, I never been to college, 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.800 so I never had that community living. Besides my child 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.800 would well we're sleeping eight in a room, so kind 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.639 of a kind of Interestine, But. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.520 It was fun nice. I'm glad I was. I'm glad 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.840 that was a good experience for you. You mentioned so 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:39.080 like if, for instance, if John likes Keith, you know, 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.959 how could she really be into you? You guys are 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.040 so different, and so many of the guys were different 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.159 in the house. When did you realize, because you do 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.920 make it to the end, when do you realize that 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.679 Joan favors you over majority of the man you. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.320 Know what, To be honest with you, I did you know? 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.119 I went with the flow. I mean, I think if 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.480 you could see when the episode, John said to me, 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.480 if you want to be here, and I said yes, 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.800 I said why, I said, because you're always in the back. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.840 You know, you never you know, you never push you 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.879 way in front. I said, look, I said, I'm not 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.040 that kind of guy. I said, I know, I'm gonna 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.760 have my fifteen minutes with you, and with my fifteen minute, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.119 that's up to me to shine and show you the 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.480 type of person I am. But I'm not the kind 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.919 of guy who's gonna push Keith and Chalk and guys 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.280 to be in front of her. That's not my personality. 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:30.960 And when when when I went to the mean, I 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.960 was myself. I didn't pretend to be anything else. And 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.240 she keeps bringing me alone and alone and alone, and 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.720 and I think she liked my energy. I think you 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.760 know when I was with John. There was just having 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.680 fun or was just having a good time. And I 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.680 think that's what she lacks about me, because you know, 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.840 in the house, I've seen a lot of struggle. I've 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:52.639 seen a lot of pain. I've seen a lot of 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.160 anxiety from those men who lost their wife who's still 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.120 in love, wasn't let go yet. You know, I come 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.320 into the house free like the man. I mean, I 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.720 had an easy givors my ex wife and her best friend. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.320 We raise our kid with with love, and so I 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:13.960 haven't really besides my childhood, I haven't really struggled through 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.560 any of losing a loved one of you know, I 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.760 lost my parents. But you know, as I was in 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.440 a different place than most of those guys, and that's 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.920 maybe what she liked about me, you know, and you 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.320 know I was being myself. 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.000 Yeah, and you're also you're also a well dressed, handsome man. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:34.240 I mean, how could you not like you? 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.080