Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batter Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena and.
Speaker 1: We are here with Pascal. Pascal, welcome to batter Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Thank you for having me here. I'm feeling
Speaker 3: very good.
Speaker 1: Thank you, feeling good. How's how's life in you know?
Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 3: Which one of Chicago your phone?
Speaker 1: So I'm from a town called Melrose Park.
Speaker 3: Okay, on the West Meadows Park. Yeah, I live downtown
Speaker 3: Chicago with Lincoln Park, but my businesses were in downtown
Speaker 3: on Well glen View and glen Coo and Buck Town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, how you like Lincoln Park?
Speaker 3: I love you Park, I love I love the fact
Speaker 3: that I'm about five minutes away from the heart of downtown,
Speaker 3: but I have the piece and quiet of the Sabus,
Speaker 3: So Lincoln Park is a great place to live. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like that area too, That's my favorite area.
Speaker 3: Are you from Chicago too?
Speaker 2: Am I from Chicago too? No? I'm from Toronto, Canada.
Speaker 2: But when Joe and I got together, he was living
Speaker 2: in Chicago. He was in the West Loop, so we
Speaker 2: spent quite a bit of time there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the West LOOPID do you see what happened is
Speaker 3: the West Loop? Mean it's bobs pull me, pull me still,
Speaker 3: whole nightclub. I mean, it's just she's crazy.
Speaker 1: And I remember when it was when it was just
Speaker 1: the meatpacking district.
Speaker 3: Thank thanks us to get there. Usual to be a
Speaker 3: couple of places to go, and the rest was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: what's going on? You've seen what happened with it nights?
Speaker 3: It's man badly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: How long have you been in Chicago for?
Speaker 3: I've been in Chicago since nineteen eighty, so I've been
Speaker 3: there for quite a long time, almost forty some years.
Speaker 3: Forty four years.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, we have to uh when we're we're coming
Speaker 1: in town for we live in New York, but we're
Speaker 1: coming in town for Thanksgiving. We have to come to
Speaker 1: your your Salonoi.
Speaker 3: And I love to take you at for Gina and
Speaker 3: show you'll beat you know, Chicago. But I would love
Speaker 3: to take you at for Gina if you're in town,
Speaker 3: you know it. It'd be fun to show you'll beat
Speaker 3: my Chicago.
Speaker 1: You know, do you do you have a do you
Speaker 1: have a favorite French restaurant in Chicago?
Speaker 3: You know what French is? Actually it's a passive food.
Speaker 3: Now it's not really what's selling. It's more like a
Speaker 3: Greek fusion Middle Eastern. That's what the trendy is. I mean,
Speaker 3: there is a restaurant who opened a couple of restaurants
Speaker 3: open thirty. One is Obelix, which is and then they
Speaker 3: open another one which is a which is a bench restaurant.
Speaker 3: And I've used the Mona migab, which is a classic.
Speaker 3: It's been there for years. But it seemed like, no,
Speaker 3: it's more like a fusion, like Greek fusion Middle Eastern.
Speaker 3: That that's not what's selling in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, okay, that's that's good to know. How let's
Speaker 1: get into the show. How did you wind up on
Speaker 1: a show like The Golden Bachelor atte so.
Speaker 3: So that was very interesting. I ended up able ass
Speaker 3: ship over three years, and my daughter thought that would
Speaker 3: be a great bachelor. Okay, she said, Dad, in the show,
Speaker 3: I don't is very much into the Bachelor and the
Speaker 3: Bachelor and all that stuff. And she'd be quite honest
Speaker 3: with you. Me and I haven't with Ben watching the show,
Speaker 3: so don't you know, I said, it's not sometime I'm
Speaker 3: usually watched, but now I'm hooked up to it. So
Speaker 3: my daughter said you be, you should be in the Bachelor.
Speaker 3: You your personality, look you, you your lifestyle. They love you,
Speaker 3: they love you, they love you. I'm gonna apply for you.
Speaker 3: And then asking me tons of questions and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, and she called me about three weeks
Speaker 3: later and said that I hope you're gonna be mad.
Speaker 3: I said with my daughter, and my older daughter is
Speaker 3: always what did you do? Okay? And she said to me,
Speaker 3: I sign you up for the Golden Bachelor of it?
Speaker 3: I said, what is the Golden Bachelor? That that's the
Speaker 3: buildboard of the Bachelor. But I never really watched. So
Speaker 3: said that you you should do it. You should do it,
Speaker 3: you should. I said, Natalie, let me look at the show,
Speaker 3: let me see if it's something I want to do,
Speaker 3: and then we'll talk about it. So I come up
Speaker 3: the next day. I talk to my manager Alissa, which
Speaker 3: you see a couple of years ago, and I said,
Speaker 3: what do you think if I go in the Bachelor? Pascal,
Speaker 3: you definitely that that's that's Upurely, I said, okay, So
Speaker 3: I went home that night. I watched three episodes of
Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelor until John exist and I get the message.
Speaker 3: I understand the concept is one guy, twenty five woman,
Speaker 3: twenty five woman, one guy. So I said, okay, that's
Speaker 3: I get the concept. So I come back the nexist
Speaker 3: and so what you're going to do? I said, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I want to know who's going to be
Speaker 3: the bachelor of it, because you know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: kind of picky kind of guy, you know, me, and
Speaker 3: I just I have my I have my my, my,
Speaker 3: my fans. So I said, you know, she said, there
Speaker 3: is anyone you like in the show? I said, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a couple of women I'll be interested, but the
Speaker 3: rest really know, you know. So so the the agent
Speaker 3: called me and said, so are you signing you up?
Speaker 3: Are you sign you up? And I said no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not signing up until I know it is because
Speaker 3: I don't want to go into the show and pretend
Speaker 3: to be sometimes I'm not. So they finally called a
Speaker 3: few weeks later, after going to all the processes in them,
Speaker 3: and they said to me, that's John.
Speaker 1: Are you in?
Speaker 3: I said yes, I mean so, And that's how going
Speaker 3: into the Bachelor nice?
Speaker 1: Who was Who are the other other women that you
Speaker 1: potentially would have been.
Speaker 3: Interested in the one with the gray hair, that pretty
Speaker 3: woman with the gray hair. Yes, yes, that she's attractive.
Speaker 3: You know, I said, because I couldn't go into the
Speaker 3: show and she's pretend. I don't need fame and glory.
Speaker 3: I have femine glories, you know. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: go there and see if there is a potential and
Speaker 3: and and and the experience as well. I think it's
Speaker 3: it's it's quite a you know, in my age to
Speaker 3: be able to do that, it's it's quite a you know,
Speaker 3: I'm grateful.
Speaker 1: You know, what was what was dating life for you?
Speaker 1: Like before you went on the Golden Match?
Speaker 3: Honestly, yeah, no problem. I have no problem, and David
Speaker 3: has never been my problem. My problem is the wrong
Speaker 3: choice of women. And you know, there is a lot
Speaker 3: of alcohol involved, which I don't drink. Uh, And that's
Speaker 3: the biggest issue, I think, the wrong seous of woman.
Speaker 3: But dating has never been probably.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but if you're going on a date in
Speaker 2: Chicago with a woman, what do you usually do?
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, I like good food, so I would
Speaker 3: go to a nice restaurant and you know, maybe on
Speaker 3: a seven day maybe go to a player or you know,
Speaker 3: I mean a symphony or you know, or maybe go
Speaker 3: to a jazz club or you know. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: very wasteful about dating. I think I utilize the city
Speaker 3: very well. So I have all my connection in some
Speaker 3: good restaurant and and the music. You know, I like musical,
Speaker 3: I like, you know, I like concert, like like I
Speaker 3: just want to see Sebastian last week. So you know,
Speaker 3: I'm always doing something, a book in.
Speaker 1: Advance, probassion, Sebastian, Menescalco, the Communitans.
Speaker 3: So maturally at corner of the Bachelor with Miguel to do,
Speaker 3: I will selling him for a week. And that's tried
Speaker 3: to show you a bit Chicago. And so I went
Speaker 3: to see Sempasian and I took him to a bag
Speaker 3: game on the field. So it was kind of fun,
Speaker 3: good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how long have you have you always not
Speaker 1: drank alcohol.
Speaker 3: I've never drink alcohol. I've left them in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3: Now I left them in nineteen seventy nine something like
Speaker 3: that and joined my training in France. As you know,
Speaker 3: military is military. You got to do it for one
Speaker 3: year before the age twenty one unless you have a
Speaker 3: higher education. So when I was in the army, I
Speaker 3: drink I smoke, and I was screwed up every day.
Speaker 3: And then when I left game and nineteen years old,
Speaker 3: I said, I'm down. And I haven't touched alcohol since
Speaker 3: since I'm nineteen years old, not because of a recovery alcoholics,
Speaker 3: I choose not to. I like to be in control.
Speaker 3: I like to see my surrounding and I don't need
Speaker 3: alcohol or drugs to get me where I am. And
Speaker 3: I'm already on the high as it is, you know.
Speaker 3: So if I was drinking or doing drug or be
Speaker 3: out of control. So and and I had a business
Speaker 3: at a very young age, and I was very responsible
Speaker 3: when I was committed to succeed it. And you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't succeed when you party too much.
Speaker 2: Probably why you're aging so well too, So that's probably
Speaker 2: why you're aging so well.
Speaker 3: Also, thank you, and then walk on to the gym
Speaker 3: and eat good food.
Speaker 2: Take take care of yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Try, you know, buddies your temple and you get
Speaker 3: it to kill it. What you give is what you get,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: So let's let's go to that first that first night
Speaker 1: out of the limo, you step out of the limo,
Speaker 1: you see Joan for the first time in person, what's
Speaker 1: going through your mind in that moment?
Speaker 3: And you know it's as you know, I wasn't the
Speaker 3: first one stepping about the limo and the show that
Speaker 3: showed me the first one. I was the fIF guy
Speaker 3: stayed up in a limo when I saw Joan offended
Speaker 3: that she was very attractive, very well put together a
Speaker 3: wear of beautiful dress, and I said, wow, ken of
Speaker 3: I'm onto the stage. She's got my attention, and I
Speaker 3: went and talked to her for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3: I produced myself and then I went to the mansion
Speaker 3: and guy keep pupping and pupping and papping, pupping, and
Speaker 3: I said, oh, okay, this is a lot of people
Speaker 3: in the you know, where where where do I stand?
Speaker 3: So when you have that group of people, you try
Speaker 3: to find bit your pee who you feel comfortable with.
Speaker 3: So it was kind of interesting because we engage a
Speaker 3: lot of conversation with everybody to try to find out
Speaker 3: the connection. And then I see them all going to
Speaker 3: the bar and start drinking and start getting loose, and
Speaker 3: I'm looking, I said, okay, who is who? You know?
Speaker 3: I was trying to figure out a bit my surrounding.
Speaker 3: So it was interesting to see that they come from
Speaker 3: different background, they come in different on side, different shape,
Speaker 3: which is very interesting. So then then then John comes
Speaker 3: up and then she started talking to all of us
Speaker 3: and then have you seen They asked me to be
Speaker 3: the first one to take her out to talk to her,
Speaker 3: which I didn't want to because I felt like I
Speaker 3: didn't want to sound like the frenchick grace a guy.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not more passive than aggressive. And so
Speaker 3: I took John and I was on Father's Days, so
Speaker 3: my son gave me a cart of of you know,
Speaker 3: I raised my son from the aging as a single parent,
Speaker 3: So he gave me a card and I read her
Speaker 3: the cart and I and I said to her, and
Speaker 3: have a lot of respect for you because I know
Speaker 3: that you were in the show and you left because
Speaker 3: of a family emergency, and that's really what attracted me
Speaker 3: to you, because you have strong family values and that's
Speaker 3: important to me and that's why I'm here. And you know,
Speaker 3: we have a nicer conversation. And then she went from.
Speaker 1: You know, how did you did you feel did you
Speaker 1: feel a spark or a connection with her? From that?
Speaker 3: And I think I felt definitely. Then what what what
Speaker 3: I felt remarkable about her. She is very engaging. She
Speaker 3: was able to ask questions and engage your conversation. It
Speaker 3: was easy. Some people are very difficult, you know that. No, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: she was very engaged in meent that very attractive on
Speaker 3: a woman, a woman who couldn't handle the conversation.
Speaker 2: You get one of the first one on one dates
Speaker 2: very early on in the season. How was that? Were
Speaker 2: you nervous about it? Were you excited?
Speaker 3: Me and I have the serve on one on one days? Actually,
Speaker 3: because I think Chuck had the first one. Chuck into
Speaker 3: his house, and then I went to Vegas. I think
Speaker 3: I think I was. I was flattered because I didn't
Speaker 3: think I've met that big of an impact on her,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I think I spent five minutes.
Speaker 3: I think a kid got the first impression. Roles so
Speaker 3: and I look at kid and I look at me
Speaker 3: and we completely opposite kind of guys. So I said, okay,
Speaker 3: so maybe I'm not going to be here that long
Speaker 3: because if that she like kid, and I'm gone about
Speaker 3: a couple of holes from here, I'm going back home.
Speaker 3: And then when she announced me that she wanted to
Speaker 3: go with me on the date, I was very excited.
Speaker 3: Because that give me the chance to get to know
Speaker 3: her and have a conversation on and off the camera.
Speaker 3: And then I had the overnight date, which is had
Speaker 3: I think I have the longest date with her because
Speaker 3: we went to Vegas and you know, went to to
Speaker 3: the Parist Hotel, we had dinner the Fairies Wheel, and
Speaker 3: then we came back the next day together. So it
Speaker 3: was it was very interesting because I get to know
Speaker 3: her a little bit more on a personal level. I
Speaker 3: was able to ask you a question about husband and
Speaker 3: how long passed away, what was he doing, the children,
Speaker 3: and a little bit know a little bit about her life.
Speaker 3: So it's like you're peeling an onion, you feel the layer.
Speaker 3: So I felt like after our trip, we knew he
Speaker 3: shot a little bit better, and I definitely felt like
Speaker 3: she had there is there was chemistry between us, you know,
Speaker 3: I think she was attracted to me. I think I
Speaker 3: think she lacked my personality because I was trying to
Speaker 3: make your forgive every done and just enjoying the moment
Speaker 3: versus talking about my past, which I had to do
Speaker 3: your own the dinner to show at a bit where
Speaker 3: I come from. But it was kind of a fun night.
Speaker 3: It was lucky. She just getting it to shadow and
Speaker 3: just she started joying the evening and then that that's
Speaker 3: I feel comfortable with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw you open up to her about your past,
Speaker 2: your childhood, how you grew up. How was it sharing
Speaker 2: that with her and how do you feel like she
Speaker 2: received it?
Speaker 3: You know, it's not easy for me to open up.
Speaker 3: I think I'm putty, reserve and very how you call.
Speaker 3: I don't like people to know much about who I am,
Speaker 3: where I come from, because that's that's not something I
Speaker 3: share often with people. But I thank you. I wanted
Speaker 3: her to know that I'm not used to design her
Speaker 3: kind of guy, whether you know, just this wasn't given
Speaker 3: to me. I work for it where I come from
Speaker 3: and needed her to understand where I come from, where
Speaker 3: my child was, you know, I mean, you know, my
Speaker 3: parents didn't believe much in education, and you do something wrong.
Speaker 3: Is the is the shoes, the belt of the broom,
Speaker 3: and that's the way they control you. And you know,
Speaker 3: when I left France, I was very angry. I was upset.
Speaker 3: I hated my parents for who they were, and then
Speaker 3: you know, it took me many years to forgive them
Speaker 3: because I understood where they come from. This is the
Speaker 3: way they were waste. So they raised me the way
Speaker 3: they were waste. But that marked me during my lifetime,
Speaker 3: that that made me where I am. And so it
Speaker 3: was very hard for me to open up and share
Speaker 3: that with her, but I knew I needed to do
Speaker 3: that because I didn't want her to have the impressions.
Speaker 3: And I'm the beach guy who come up from a
Speaker 3: golden spoon and and I'm you know, so it was
Speaker 3: important for me for her to know then life wasn't
Speaker 3: like that when I grew up and I walked to
Speaker 3: build the lifestyle I have today.
Speaker 1: So a self made man like yourself, who's worked really hard,
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming you have you have nice things in
Speaker 1: your life, what was it like living in a bunk
Speaker 1: bed with a bunch of guys.
Speaker 3: So, so, you know what, this is a very interesting
Speaker 3: question because first of all, I didn't you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm my son naive, okay. But when they said the mansion,
Speaker 3: and I've been to Mention in the past, okay, where
Speaker 3: there is a butler, where there is a housekeeper, where
Speaker 3: there is a maid, cook and everything. So when they
Speaker 3: were talking to Mention, I thought the mansion was coming
Speaker 3: with the staff, was taking care of tents for you,
Speaker 3: you know, like cooking, cleaning and stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: then and then I realized was nothing like that. And
Speaker 3: I'm not really your domesticated kind of guy. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't do much of show at home, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I e ninety nine percent of the time.
Speaker 3: I didn't out that dining out to have a housekeeper
Speaker 3: who come up a couple of times a week to
Speaker 3: take care of my apartment. You know, I'm very rarely
Speaker 3: a go grosing, so you know, there's nothing in my fridge.
Speaker 3: My pats and pants steal in the box for the
Speaker 3: last twelve years. So it was. It was also when
Speaker 3: I moved into the mansion and they give me the room. Honestly, guys,
Speaker 3: I had in an anxiety attack. I had a flashback
Speaker 3: of where I came from, and it was scary to me.
Speaker 3: I didn't show it, so I tried to fake it
Speaker 3: up by coming up with the clothes and the bullsheit.
Speaker 3: But I had such an anxiety because I said, I'm
Speaker 3: back to where I come from, and I didn't know
Speaker 3: those guys, So I said, am I going to handle that?
Speaker 3: And and I never showed my fear because I didn't
Speaker 3: want them to see that, but I had. It was
Speaker 3: it was difficult. And then and then I said, Pascal,
Speaker 3: you got to stick with the program. This is the
Speaker 3: way they go with the flow. It's a short period
Speaker 3: of time. You'll get used to it a little bit.
Speaker 3: And I'm my laundry, my cooking, and I didn't want
Speaker 3: to sound like the Prima donna, you know, but so
Speaker 3: I asked guys if you could help me with the laundry,
Speaker 3: asked Mark to help he was cooking, and and he
Speaker 3: ended up being an incredible experience. And I mean it
Speaker 3: was just you know, if somebody said to me, would
Speaker 3: you do it again? Definitely? I think he was. It
Speaker 3: was an incredible experience for me, you know. And and
Speaker 3: he took my fee away from me, so that I know.
Speaker 3: I never been to camp. Okay, I never been to college,
Speaker 3: so I never had that community living. Besides my child
Speaker 3: would well we're sleeping eight in a room, so kind
Speaker 3: of a kind of Interestine, But.
Speaker 1: It was fun nice. I'm glad I was. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that was a good experience for you. You mentioned so
Speaker 1: like if, for instance, if John likes Keith, you know,
Speaker 1: how could she really be into you? You guys are
Speaker 1: so different, and so many of the guys were different
Speaker 1: in the house. When did you realize, because you do
Speaker 1: make it to the end, when do you realize that
Speaker 1: Joan favors you over majority of the man you.
Speaker 3: Know what, To be honest with you, I did you know?
Speaker 3: I went with the flow. I mean, I think if
Speaker 3: you could see when the episode, John said to me,
Speaker 3: if you want to be here, and I said yes,
Speaker 3: I said why, I said, because you're always in the back.
Speaker 3: You know, you never you know, you never push you
Speaker 3: way in front. I said, look, I said, I'm not
Speaker 3: that kind of guy. I said, I know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have my fifteen minutes with you, and with my fifteen minute,
Speaker 3: that's up to me to shine and show you the
Speaker 3: type of person I am. But I'm not the kind
Speaker 3: of guy who's gonna push Keith and Chalk and guys
Speaker 3: to be in front of her. That's not my personality.
Speaker 3: And when when when I went to the mean, I
Speaker 3: was myself. I didn't pretend to be anything else. And
Speaker 3: she keeps bringing me alone and alone and alone, and
Speaker 3: and I think she liked my energy. I think you
Speaker 3: know when I was with John. There was just having
Speaker 3: fun or was just having a good time. And I
Speaker 3: think that's what she lacks about me, because you know,
Speaker 3: in the house, I've seen a lot of struggle. I've
Speaker 3: seen a lot of pain. I've seen a lot of
Speaker 3: anxiety from those men who lost their wife who's still
Speaker 3: in love, wasn't let go yet. You know, I come
Speaker 3: into the house free like the man. I mean, I
Speaker 3: had an easy givors my ex wife and her best friend.
Speaker 3: We raise our kid with with love, and so I
Speaker 3: haven't really besides my childhood, I haven't really struggled through
Speaker 3: any of losing a loved one of you know, I
Speaker 3: lost my parents. But you know, as I was in
Speaker 3: a different place than most of those guys, and that's
Speaker 3: maybe what she liked about me, you know, and you
Speaker 3: know I was being myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're also you're also a well dressed, handsome man.
Speaker 1: I mean, how could you not like you?
Speaker 3: You know, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that you
Speaker 3: got it something. Passion industry. I gotta, you know, I
Speaker 3: mean I want to plush slone. I mean, I have
Speaker 3: four locations, you know, I gotta. I gotta be the
Speaker 3: the face of my business. You know, I can't the
Speaker 3: gene and and you know sometimes it's very funny, which
Speaker 3: I know talk is funny. When I grow up, we
Speaker 3: had holding our gene because we couldn't afford It's okay,
Speaker 3: I mean we had roles everywhere, and the gene we
Speaker 3: have tear down and now tear down gin. It's passion.
Speaker 3: They didn't know I was passionate about.
Speaker 2: For you, Pascal, I know that.
Speaker 3: It's so funny, but you know it's it's just life
Speaker 3: is good. You know that is good. You know, you
Speaker 3: got to have a positive attitude. You got to leave
Speaker 3: the moment, don't focus so much and yesterday, because there
Speaker 3: is nothing you can change. The only thing you could
Speaker 3: do is run from your success and failure and and
Speaker 3: apply it to the president. And tomorrow it's it's unknown.
Speaker 3: So she just enjoy the time. And that's what I
Speaker 3: did when I wanted to mission. I enjoy my time.
Speaker 2: We thought you made it all the way to hometowns.
Speaker 2: What did it mean to be able to bring John home,
Speaker 2: show her your business and have your children be a
Speaker 2: part of this experience.
Speaker 3: You know, I never thought that we make it to
Speaker 3: hometown to be a sweet you know, always like, wow, okay,
Speaker 3: so I'm you know, I mean, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: I know that some of them were much more aggressive
Speaker 3: than I was. Some of them were really like already
Speaker 3: said a word. I'm in love and I never said
Speaker 3: that to Joan. I care very much about her as
Speaker 3: a person. I'm trying to get to know her. So
Speaker 3: going home was a quality interesting experience. And I wanted
Speaker 3: my children to meet Johan and and validated and and
Speaker 3: tell me what the tank of others uh, and show
Speaker 3: you my business will be what I do. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm in the feel good business. I'm in the business
Speaker 3: where people are happy. They don't you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: a giboxer to only where people are fighting with his
Speaker 3: shadow or I'm not a criminal toney. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: in the feel good business. People come to me, they
Speaker 3: love being here, they live happy. So unfortunately then that's
Speaker 3: I was able to show all that. And as you
Speaker 3: could see, I was. I'm very much loved by my team.
Speaker 3: They speak very highly about me. They they have a
Speaker 3: lot of respect for me. And because I value uh,
Speaker 3: I value the guy who sweeped the floor, to the
Speaker 3: girl who share pood, to the girl who's in charge
Speaker 3: of my salon that treat them, all of them with
Speaker 3: the same respect. It's not because you sweep the floor
Speaker 3: then you less than the one who run my salon.
Speaker 3: So I think I have a different marvels about how
Speaker 3: to treat my team. And so that was very good
Speaker 3: for me to bring her into my business, for her
Speaker 3: to meet my people and and and have you bed
Speaker 3: the feel of their feeling told me as a person,
Speaker 3: and then bring her into my home. And that was fun.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of fund actually.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's let's go to the moment and the
Speaker 1: tropical location, trapical location, the tropical location where you have
Speaker 1: to you know where you you basically, you know, you
Speaker 1: break it off with John because you know you're just
Speaker 1: you're just not in love with her. Can you you
Speaker 1: take us back to that moment, what was going on
Speaker 1: and you and you her mind and and how that
Speaker 1: went down?
Speaker 3: You know, I think I think to me, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: the way I look at it is I didn't have
Speaker 3: enough time with her, you know, me in the and
Speaker 3: and then she took me to something who freaked me
Speaker 3: out there a bit. Mean, you know, I would have
Speaker 3: preferred going diving with the sharks. Which have down or
Speaker 3: driving an EUV to the mountain, which I love, which
Speaker 3: I raised cars. She took me to a ceremony which
Speaker 3: is in the island, is what they call a wedding basically,
Speaker 3: and then and then I freaked out at bit that
Speaker 3: she felt like I went too fast, too quick. I
Speaker 3: felt very uncomfortable with the ceremony. As much as I
Speaker 3: tried to have found with the whoster and the this
Speaker 3: and that, and that realized and you know, I just
Speaker 3: don't have what it takes to be able to give
Speaker 3: her what she's looking for. And I know then the
Speaker 3: two guys behind me were so much in love with
Speaker 3: a lot of them. I didn't want to waste her
Speaker 3: time on me, knowing that there is a couple guy
Speaker 3: behind me, you are really really much in love with her,
Speaker 3: And I said, it's time for me to exist. And
Speaker 3: there is not an easy way to say goodbye, you
Speaker 3: know me, And I think it's it's it's it's painful.
Speaker 3: And she was hurt because she felt like she wasn't lovely,
Speaker 3: and you know, and that's so the show. After her crying,
Speaker 3: I didn't know she had that much being for me.
Speaker 3: But the other time, also who freaked me out. A
Speaker 3: will bit does not freaked me out. To who really
Speaker 3: give me doubt that, give me I'm sorry, give me
Speaker 3: comfort for me to leave? Is one I said to her.
Speaker 3: I said, you know, we were twenty four guys to
Speaker 3: start me. Why did you choose me? And then she
Speaker 3: said the wrong answer, you remind me my husband. I
Speaker 3: don't want to remind you anybody. I want you to
Speaker 3: look at me as me. I would have preferred her
Speaker 3: to say, you know, I love your personality, I love you,
Speaker 3: you charm me, I love the guys like you, I
Speaker 3: love your source of humor, I love your lifestyle. I
Speaker 3: think to me, that would have been a little bit
Speaker 3: more appealing. And I think John, I felt you on
Speaker 3: the journey was not over, and I think I felt
Speaker 3: like me not being a widow, it's hard for me
Speaker 3: to relate to the last. But I think she should
Speaker 3: have focused on me and on us versus bring the
Speaker 3: exit the villion. It has been all the time, and
Speaker 3: that was to me. That was the time where I said,
Speaker 3: bestcal we need to go out, we need to leave.
Speaker 2: Do you think if your date that day had been
Speaker 2: instead of the ceremony, you had gone swimming with sharks
Speaker 2: out on about and she had given you a different
Speaker 2: answer to that question. Do you think those two pieces
Speaker 2: would have maybe made you stay another week?
Speaker 3: Definitely? Definitely, definitely. I think I think if she would
Speaker 3: have taken me to somewhere fun and having a good
Speaker 3: time and being kids again. And you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I love I love sportscar I raised them. I love diving,
Speaker 3: which i'm you know, dove with a shower before, so
Speaker 3: you know that's the time where I'm enjoying and shoulder them.
Speaker 3: That's the life I like. Okay, that's number one. Number
Speaker 3: two is the answer she gave me at the table.
Speaker 3: But remind me be on the on the journey. So
Speaker 3: to me, you there to meet somebody. The past is
Speaker 3: the past. There is nothing you can change about the past.
Speaker 3: But don't bring the past all the time and compare
Speaker 3: because it was a comparison there all the time. And
Speaker 3: I'm not here to I'm not here to replace him.
Speaker 3: I'm here for her to see me for who I
Speaker 3: am and what I have to offer. And I think
Speaker 3: those two times would have changed. I think I would
Speaker 3: have got to the fantasy suite. I think we'll have
Speaker 3: a conversation and see where this is leaving.
Speaker 1: Do you yeah, I was going to ask you, do
Speaker 1: you think you know? Do you think if if the process,
Speaker 1: if you had more time with John, even leading up
Speaker 1: to that, to the moment before you guys broke up,
Speaker 1: if you had a decent amount of more time with John,
Speaker 1: do you think you could have fell in love with her?
Speaker 1: Or do you think she just wasn't your person?
Speaker 3: You know? When you're talking love, okay, in and I've
Speaker 3: said that in the past, it takes time to fill
Speaker 3: in love with someone. Okay, it takes time. It takes
Speaker 3: days to get to know each other, It takes communication,
Speaker 3: it takes argument to see how we argue, how we
Speaker 3: make up. I agree to disagree about subject having the cemetery.
Speaker 3: So would I fell the connection? Yes? To move to love?
Speaker 3: It's time. As you say then said to someone I
Speaker 3: met for twenty four hours in six weeks, that I'm
Speaker 3: in love with you. It's not really realistic, you know.
Speaker 2: Do you think if it was a different person you
Speaker 2: would ever be able to fall in love and propose
Speaker 2: at the end of this journey if you were to
Speaker 2: do it again, or do you just think it's not
Speaker 2: the right fit In terms of timeline I.
Speaker 3: Take, I take you know, I mean, I speak frankly
Speaker 3: with you. I think you know when you take my
Speaker 3: daughter or my twenty two years old daughter or my
Speaker 3: twenty five years old sound and then you put him
Speaker 3: into the bachelor or the bachelor of it? Okay, And
Speaker 3: they both go into the journey. And my son is
Speaker 3: in Chicago and he meets they fell in love with
Speaker 3: the girl who live in California. The two of them
Speaker 3: are in transition into their life. Okay. They are looking
Speaker 3: for identity, they are looking for a job. They're not secure,
Speaker 3: they don't owning it, and they don't rent. They're still renting.
Speaker 3: They're looking for jobs. So it's easy to say, hey, honey,
Speaker 3: why don't you move to Chicago, or why don't move
Speaker 3: to California? And the two of us could blend a
Speaker 3: penny together and build their loves together. But when you
Speaker 3: beat your guys of our age, who are and plenty,
Speaker 3: our hooks are did on the ground. Okay. And and
Speaker 3: I have my business, I have my connection, I have
Speaker 3: my teller supression, I have my friend, I have you know,
Speaker 3: I have just this. Chicago is my life. Okay for
Speaker 3: me to pack my staff and move to Maryland or
Speaker 3: move to Wichita. But it's not gonna happen. It's not
Speaker 3: gonna happen.
Speaker 4: And the the other questions, are you financed financially secure
Speaker 4: to be able to pop in the plane and go
Speaker 4: see somebody every other weekend or fly that person over
Speaker 4: the weekend.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have the mean for that, so it's
Speaker 3: no problem. But eventually, if the if, if if John
Speaker 3: was very unterested, if I was the Golden Bachelor and
Speaker 3: I meet a woman which I went on the one
Speaker 3: on one date and I really enjoy the connection, I
Speaker 3: will take her again on the one on one date
Speaker 3: because I think she wastes time with people who had
Speaker 3: no future with her. Okay, she went on seven date
Speaker 3: and two of them were fiasco basically, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. You know, So to me, why don't you
Speaker 3: focus on the guy you want and then give them
Speaker 3: more attention and get to know better. That's what I
Speaker 3: will love done. But again that I'm not the show.
Speaker 1: So seeing Joan and Chuck together, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about them? That looks like they're really happy. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about them being together?
Speaker 3: Now? I'm very happy for them, as you think. Then
Speaker 3: the Chuck was very much into June, from the day
Speaker 3: first he had the first one on one date. He's
Speaker 3: a great guy. I wish him and John many years
Speaker 3: of happiness, and I think they make a very nice couple,
Speaker 3: and I wish them the very best, and I wish
Speaker 3: them a lot of success in the future.
Speaker 1: You're you know, after watching your journey back and your
Speaker 1: kids seeing everything, what did they think about Pascal on
Speaker 1: the show?
Speaker 3: You know, for my son and Misiero, you know, thank
Speaker 3: you done a great job. I said, Dad, you know,
Speaker 3: you're funny, you're weedty. You went there and had a
Speaker 3: great time, you know, and you know, the response of
Speaker 3: my family and my friend and and the and the
Speaker 3: social media has been extremely positive, extremely positive. I am
Speaker 3: so grateful to have experienced that and be part of that,
Speaker 3: that Johnny, with John and all the guys. What was
Speaker 3: just She's incredible, incredible for me.
Speaker 2: So then what is next for Pascal? Are you dating?
Speaker 2: Are you focusing on your business? What is life like
Speaker 2: now that the shows?
Speaker 1: Are you hanging hanging out at the bar at Gibson
Speaker 1: to tell you what are you doing?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, no, guy, I am not dating anyone.
Speaker 3: I'm just taking a break. I just want to be
Speaker 3: focused on me, you know, and I used to you know,
Speaker 3: do a lot. I have a hobby, which is photography.
Speaker 3: I do a lot of photography, so I belong to
Speaker 3: a club. So I got a bunch of guys we go.
Speaker 3: I'm not looking for all as ship right now. I
Speaker 3: just want to take a break. I'm focused on my business.
Speaker 3: I don't really hang in bags to pick up girls.
Speaker 3: You know, that's not that's not my then. You know,
Speaker 3: my kids being part of me, and they said that
Speaker 3: you handle yourself very well. My staff keep telling me,
Speaker 3: then I should be the next calling bachelor. I said,
Speaker 3: you know what, you know, this isn't this. We got
Speaker 3: time for that. Let's just focus on on the success
Speaker 3: I've always said. And you know, I get my fifteen
Speaker 3: minutes of fame, and you know I'm going to fed
Speaker 3: away like we all do. And then that's the way
Speaker 3: life goes, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So when you are ready to start dating again
Speaker 1: or settle down, what are you looking for in a woman?
Speaker 3: Means my type? My type is a woman who has
Speaker 3: elegance about herself, a woman who could you know, take
Speaker 3: everywhere and depart of some woman who has a sense
Speaker 3: of passion, some woman who has a life on her own,
Speaker 3: who doesn't depend on me to survive. And I'm not
Speaker 3: you know, I know that he has been a comment
Speaker 3: and I'm not dead in a seventy two years old,
Speaker 3: but I'm not dead in a fifty years old Eider. Okay.
Speaker 3: I want to say that the rack of straight mean
Speaker 3: the woman I go out with having the mid fifties
Speaker 3: to early sixties, okay, And that's the type of woman
Speaker 3: I like. A woman who's been to a full life,
Speaker 3: a woman who has been a mother so she understands
Speaker 3: what it is to give and take. A woman who
Speaker 3: has a who has a sense of passion, a woman
Speaker 3: who enjoyed food, a woman who likes to travel, who's adventurous,
Speaker 3: a woman who likes to work out, is get physically fit,
Speaker 3: if it's yoga, paladi or whatever. I think, a woman
Speaker 3: who wants your art, which I like to go to
Speaker 3: a lot of art galleries and expositions, and a woman
Speaker 3: who like to have fun, woman who's just secure, and
Speaker 3: a woman who doesn't drink too much. I think the
Speaker 3: drinking has always been a.
Speaker 1: Problem, you know, all right, Pascal, last last, last question
Speaker 1: I want to ask you before we let you go.
Speaker 1: People have seen so much of you now on the show,
Speaker 1: But what's one thing you wish they would have learned
Speaker 1: about you that they may not have been able to
Speaker 1: during your time on The Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 3: Well with me, and I think, I think my presentation
Speaker 3: of the show, after I've seen every piece of I
Speaker 3: like the way I was projected from the network. You know,
Speaker 3: I have no complaint. I thank you. They showed me
Speaker 3: my source of view. More, they showed me my sense
Speaker 3: of fashion. They showed me my heart. That think I
Speaker 3: was open about my feeling. I think I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 3: a giver. You know, I'm the kind of guy who
Speaker 3: like to give because I feel like I'm fortunately and
Speaker 3: I'm involved in a lot of a lot of charity.
Speaker 3: I like to help people, you know, I think it's
Speaker 3: important for me. Then you know, I'm I'm blessed and
Speaker 3: grateful to have done the world with my life, and
Speaker 3: I feel like it's time for me to start giving
Speaker 3: away a little bit and and not only my time,
Speaker 3: but my money. And I just want people to look
Speaker 3: at me as the funny guy, the guy who's got fun,
Speaker 3: guy who you could talk to, you know, and that's
Speaker 3: basically you know, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that. Well, Pascal, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: taking time out of your busy day and coming to
Speaker 1: talk to us. We really appreciate it and it was
Speaker 1: lovely meeting you.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. A pleasure to begin. When you
Speaker 3: come in Chicago. Just give me a cold Okay, we're
Speaker 3: gonna go for you know, Okay.
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Speaker 3: Bye,