1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: gets going right now, and we have a stacked two 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: hours left with all of you. Thanks for being here. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Bottom of the hour, joined by Roma Daravi, former Deputy 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Strategic communications chief under the Trump White House. Knows all 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: the folks in Trump worked very well. We'll talk to 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: her about what's going on all of that and more. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: And the third hour, Adam lack Salt of Nevada will 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: be joining us. He is running for that critical Senate seat. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, last hour we talked a bit. If you 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: missed it, go back listen to Clay Travison, Buck Sexton 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Show podcast. James Bond maybe going woke right so we 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: know that woke entertainment is a very real thing that's 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: been happening more and more in recent years and often 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: ruining beloved franchises. I mentioned the Ghostbusters. I would argue 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: one of the worst movies for its budget size I 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: have ever seen, and I only watched fifteen minutes of 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: it and I was like, I can't was the all 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: female reboot of Ghostbusters clearly pushed by wokeness, etc. Okay, 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: we also have debates. Clay and I get fired up 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: about this, and they really do matter. They're they're intellectually 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: interesting because Clay Love's history. I love history. I mean, 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: my idea of a great Saturday afternoon because I know 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: how to party is reading like an old history book 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: a couple of genres. I like ancient history a lot. 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: But one thing I can say is I spend more 27 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: time on West African history than I've anticipated, because while 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: I was waiting to get sent away for training at 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: the CIA, they basically just told me you've got to 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: learn about West Africa because that might be an area 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: I ended up becoming an Iraq person because I said, 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: I want to go where the war is. I want 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: to march to the sound of the drums, or rather 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: to the march toward the gunfire, so to speak, analytically, 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: not you know, well, whole other conversation. But I spent 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: a lot of time on the West Africa issue, just 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: reading up, learning, getting as smart as I could while 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: I was waiting Clay the kind of one oh one 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: phase at the Central Intelligence Agency. And I mean I 40 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: read a book on the bay Affrin Civil War. How 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: many people even remember the beaff I don't know. I'm 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: gonna be I know nothing about West African history, and 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: I bet the vast majority of our audience doesn't either. 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: So uh, this is this is gonna be the very 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: bare minimum knowledge here compared to to CIA Analyst Bucks knowledge. 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: So so here's what's fascinating for me right now. There's 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: a movie that is coming out. Is it already out? 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: I think it's out now, it's out now. It's called 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: The Woman King and Oscar winner Viola Davis is in 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: this movie. And it is about a tribe of female 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: warriors in West Africa and they came to prominence and 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: really the the seventeen hundreds eighteen hundreds period, and this 53 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: kingdom called Dahomey. And here is just a piece of 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: the trailer of this big budget film that is out 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: right now. And I'll explain why this matters in a second. 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: Do we have any volie coming that threatens our kingdom, 57 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: our freedom? But we have a whip on. They are 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: not prepared for my key. The reps wished to conquer us. 59 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: They will not stop into the whole of Africa. Is 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: bass Okay, So this movie is set up. I want 61 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: to be very clear. This is about a group of 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: now a group of female warriors called the Agoge, who 63 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: were part of this part of this tribe called the 64 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: Dahomy in West Africa in what is today Beni or 65 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: in the French Bana, which is right next door to Nigeria. Okay, 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: so think Nigeria, West Africa, right next door Benin is 67 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: what we call it in the West now and Clay 68 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: the whole premise of them, I haven't seen the movie, 69 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: to be fair, and I guess maybe I'm now signing 70 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: up to go see this because of this. But the 71 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: premise of the movie I set up there is these 72 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: brave female warriors who are fighting against the evil white 73 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: European colonizing colonizing group, in this case the French. They 74 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: had long standing relationship with the Portuguese, which I'm gonna 75 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: get into. I just there's more details we could talk 76 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: about here in a second in and I could give 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: people some reading about this if they want to, because 78 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: again I was stuck in an office with nothing to 79 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: do but read about West Africa for months. The Dahomy 80 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: were the biggest slave trading tribe in Africa. Okay. The 81 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: Dahomy were notorious for going to other tribes and enslaving 82 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: all of those tribes and selling those fellow Africans to 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: the European slave traders who then engaged in the Transatlantic 84 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: slave trade. Not only that, and their entire all of 85 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: their wealth. By the way, Clay, they talking about the 86 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: wealthy Dahomi kingdom right that the king of Dahomy was 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: wealthy for that region and in the standards of the time, 88 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: all built on slavery. The Agoji, the all female bodyguards 89 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: of the king, were known for beheading anybody who tried 90 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: to oppose them and carrying the severed heads of those 91 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: people that didn't want to be enslaved fellow Africans to 92 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: build mounds essentially of the skulls at the foot of 93 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: the king. They also engaged in slavery for human sacrifice, 94 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: so they would take slaves of fellow Africans and execute 95 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: them to you know, the gods that they were worshiping 96 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: at the time. Do you think, and now I haven't 97 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: seen the movie yet, to be fair, do you think 98 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: that they are going to depict the Agoji as slavers 99 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: who murdered the elderly and right upon taking a village 100 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: and anyone who they captured who was essentially trying to 101 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: resist them, they would be head. Do you think that's 102 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: going to be in this movie? I wonder, I would bet, 103 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: I would bet the answer is no. I'm actually so 104 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: why did the king have all female bodyguards? Fascinating? There's 105 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: a there's a book if anyone wants, the best book, 106 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: or the most well known book is called The Amazons 107 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: of Black Sparta and the Agogi were referred to by 108 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: the European colonists as as amazons, obviously a reference to uh, 109 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, ancient the ancient Greek concept of the amazon, 110 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: and they say it was in the early stages. They 111 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: were the bodyguard of the king. He also had sexual 112 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: access to these females. And then they trained them militarily 113 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: in a way that is somewhat similar to the Spartan 114 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: u Agogae, which was the school that if you watch 115 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: the movie three hundred, remember they're training the kids and 116 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: there was very extreme training, but the notion of them 117 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: as these incredibly successful warriors. They were fighting against largely 118 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: unarmed groups of people, and big surprise, when the French 119 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: showed up, they absolutely annihilated them without a second thought. 120 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: It was it was like the war was over before 121 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: it started. But this movie, I'm just gonna note this 122 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: Viola Davis responds to hashtag boycott woman King Clay. People 123 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: have figured out there's a problem here, Okay, this notion 124 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: of holding up the African tribe best known for enslaving 125 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: and enriching itself by enslaving fellow Africans. You're making a 126 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: movie about that as heroism, well, because they want the 127 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: black woman to be the heroine against the evil white 128 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: guy colonizer. But what's intriguing to me about this is, 129 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: I wonder the remember we played earlier this week don 130 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: Lemon get blown up by the British expert when it 131 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: was they were discussing reparations, and the British expert said, hey, 132 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: it might be worth having a conversation about the fact 133 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: that everyone who was being purchased in Africa had been 134 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: enslaved by Africans beforehand, and maybe reparations should at least 135 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: go back and include these African kingdoms. I wonder, buck 136 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: if this is going to spark in many people's ideas, 137 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: because the way we talk about slavery in America today, 138 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: it's as if America was the only place to ever 139 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: have slavery, and as if slavery only began to exist 140 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: in the world in sixteen nineteen in America, and therefore 141 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: it is an indelible stain upon America's legitimacy as a 142 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: country of good and so I wonder if this is 143 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: going to spark more conversation about the international slave trade 144 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: in general and the fact that it originated with African 145 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:03,239 Speaker 1: tribes kidnapping other Africans and selling basically away their rivals 146 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: for property and prominence in Africa. So this also, I 147 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: think exposes something a phenomena we'll see more and more 148 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: of where woke history and what we described as presentism, right, 149 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: judging everything in the past by the standards of today, 150 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: woke history is going to increasingly run into problems and 151 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: it will deal with it through things through mechanisms like this, 152 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: effectively lying about history. Yeah, because most of woke history 153 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: is built upon white and colonial oppression. That's woke history. 154 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: The narrative is all founded on that. That is their 155 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: focus all the time. But they also want to talk 156 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: about empowerment narratives, right and areas of So that's I 157 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: think the ideology behind making a movie like this Black 158 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: female warriors who are considered fearsome at the time and 159 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: who fought against the colonial exploiter. The problem is, wherever 160 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: in human history you find people who are more powerful 161 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: than other people, you're going to find exploitation. The problem is, 162 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: the deeper you dive into the actual roots of not 163 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: even just the trans transatlantic slave trade, but slavery in general, 164 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,359 Speaker 1: you find that this was a human constant, practiced effectively 165 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: by all warring tribes, all of it. It's true about 166 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: Native Americans in this country. I believe it was the 167 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: uh oh gosh forgetting the name of the tribe. This 168 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: is why the Lewis and Clark Undawn Encourage book is 169 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: so fascinating because they have contemporaneous accounts in the United 170 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: States of all of these different tribes taking and making 171 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: their rivals slaves. And now you have remember initially there 172 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: was this idea of the noble savage, which was, oh, 173 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: this uh that Jefferson and others kind of created, living 174 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: in harmony with nature and everything else. And then you 175 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: start to interact with and you say, actually, this was brutal, 176 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: bloody conflicts all the time. Comanche was the Comanche were 177 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,239 Speaker 1: famous in Native American populations for enslaving other Native Americans. 178 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was your our slaves, or 179 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: we're going to kill you and your women and children 180 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: and everybody. We're gonna take the women in eldern as slaves. 181 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: So slavery practice all over the world. But it's it's 182 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: interesting to me because the Left is going to run 183 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: into some of the They're going to want to elevate 184 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: certain areas or narratives in history and try to avoid 185 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: the presentism, the judging by our current morals that they 186 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: own me. You know that, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, 187 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: you know that they get judged by what we think today. Well, 188 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: my friends, if you're going to judge, going back to 189 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: the woman king here, if you're going to judge what 190 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: was going on in the Kingdom of Dahomey and not 191 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: that long ago by the standards of today, headhunters, human sacrifice, 192 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: mass murder, slavery, slaughter, and then eventually the Europeans completely 193 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: defeat them on the battlefield without blinking an eye. What 194 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: are we going to learn the history or not? You 195 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: know you're gonna make a movie, let's learn the real history. Well, 196 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: I think part of this and if you look at 197 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King's history as a minister, as it pertains 198 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: to gay issues. Martin Luther King was not progressive as 199 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: a Southern Baptist minister in issues of gay rights. In fact, 200 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: he called people who had gay tendencies or gay interest 201 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: he said that they had psychological issues, that they had 202 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: mental deficiencies like this was well discussed. So if you're 203 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: going to presentism the Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and 204 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln and all these other historical figures, well, MLK 205 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: back in the nineteen fifties had an awfully backwards view 206 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: of homosexuality. Now, I don't think you should judge anybody 207 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty based on the standards of twenty twenty 208 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: as it pertains to gay rights and gay marriage and 209 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: everything else. But if you're going to be judging people 210 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: in the eighteen sixties based on present day standards, why 211 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't you also be applying that same logic to characters 212 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: of a historical nature such as Martin Luther King. Find 213 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: me a power center in human existence in the mid 214 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, and I will find you a place that 215 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: we could completely annihilate as immoral and exploitative and horrible 216 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: by the standards of today. And that's this is the 217 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: problem that the progressive historians can really it's all about victimization, exploitation, colonialism. Okay, 218 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: But then if you're going to tell us stories where 219 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: there are people that were so successful in building great 220 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: societies and great civilizations outside of that exploitation, guess what 221 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna find exploitation of its own slavery at you know, 222 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you go down the list all of these things. 223 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: So that's why isn't it fascinating? Clay? There's a there's 224 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: a boycott movement. Now, this movie was supposed to be 225 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: woke and telling a history that would appeal to the woke, 226 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: but enough people know the history that there's a movement 227 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: to boycott the wokeness. Why couldn't you just make this 228 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: up right? I mean, like, why do you need to 229 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: have rooted it in history and done so in such 230 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: a fundamentally inauthentic way. They want the power of bass 231 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the movie. They want they want 232 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: this is explicitly to have impact on how we think 233 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: about the world and our history today. This is not 234 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: a this is not Game of Thrones, right, this is 235 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: not fantasy genre, So very interesting to see this player anyway, 236 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: anyone wants any recommendations on who how to read about 237 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: the Dahomi, and you'll just be it's amazing that anybody 238 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: could make a movie about them as heroes. Honestly, really, 239 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: it really because the other you know who really hates this, 240 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: the other African tribes around them, the other African tribes 241 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: that come from because they're mythologizing there. They're exploited, credating. Yea, 242 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: they emptied out whole villages and massacred all the elderly. 243 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's anyway. So that's what you know about 244 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: the latest woke movie in Hollywood. Folks, gonna be changing 245 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: gears here in a second. To all your calls, we've 246 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: got some great emails as well. Eight hundred two eight 247 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: to eight eight two. If you want to light us up, 248 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: we'd love to chat with you. What began with hundreds 249 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: of people in two thousand and two is now one 250 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: of the top five k events in America today, with 251 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: about thirty thousand people taking part each year. On the 252 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: last Sunday in September this weekend, Manhattan will see a 253 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: huge turnout for the Tunnel to Towers Foundation five K 254 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: run and walk. Event. Producer Ali's going to be there. 255 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm actually sponsoring my friend Rahem Kassam. He's gonna be 256 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: running in this. I should probably run next year. I 257 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: just need to get my running skills up a little bit. 258 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: This signature event has inspired eighty others to run, walk 259 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: and climb across our nation, like the annual five k 260 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: run and walk event in Hendersonville, Tennessee. 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I 277 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: wanted to update you some Buck and I were talking 278 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: about this off air. We certainly talked about it a lot. 279 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: Yesterday there was a big discussion surrounding Stacy Abrahams making 280 00:16:53,600 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: the argument that essentially your ultrasounds were not catching the 281 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: real heartbeat of babies inside of their mother's womb. And 282 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: this got a lot of attention, and the usual Blue 283 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: check brigade came out and tried to defend Stacy Abrams. 284 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: But then a lot of doctors got fired up about 285 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: this and started weighing in, people who are not necessarily 286 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: affiliated with one party or the other, saying Stacy Abrams 287 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: had got this completely wrong. Here's doctor Sapphire telling that story. 288 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to just deliver the truth and point out 289 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: her law is a complete lie. So at about three 290 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: weeks after gestation or after conception, the cells of a heart, 291 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: the miacardium, starts to rhythmically contract, so really the heart 292 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: starts beating at three weeks. Yes, you can start seeing 293 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: the heartbeat five to six weeks after conception on the ultrasound, 294 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: but that's only because it's so small and because of 295 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: all the other structures are in the way with the pelvis. 296 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: But that heart is contracting very easy early on. It 297 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: is not a conspiracy. 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I 324 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: know the stocks are getting crushed all over the place, 325 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: but you probably saw Clay that. And this isn't even 326 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: where I was planning to go right now. But you 327 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: know beyond meat, which I remember when people were like 328 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: beyond meats gonna take over the planet. Oh youth, I 329 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: just ate a cheeseburger in record time, by the way, 330 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: like four minutes in between our commercial break. There. There 331 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: is no such thing as a fake meatburger that tastes 332 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: anything like a cheeseburger. You can like your vegan tofu 333 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: soyburger that's fine. I don't you know, people can choose 334 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: what they want. But Beyond Meat was it's just as good, 335 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: and it's good to save the planet. You know. The 336 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: stock is down like nine percent from its from its high. 337 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: It turns out that while people like Bill Gates not 338 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: exactly sure that's a guy you want to look to 339 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: for peak physical performance. While people like Bill Gates maybe 340 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: trying to push fake meat on everybody people. And you know, 341 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: the climate change thing is in the background of this 342 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: all the time, right, that's the moralizing behind this from 343 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: from a lot of a lot of folks. It turns 344 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: out that people just want to be able to eat 345 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: the meat that they're used to eating. Yeah, look, and 346 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: you saw the I thought this is where you were 347 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: gonna go. Did you see the beyond meat? Coo was 348 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: at the Arkansas Missouri state game over the weekend, got 349 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: caught in a traffic jam, got into a fight, and 350 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: tried to bite the nose off of the guy that 351 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: he was fighting with. Did you not see the story? 352 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: I had no idea that that was a story till 353 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: you just told me that just brought up Beyond Meat 354 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Thought you were going to team me 355 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: up for this. Yes, last weekend AFL Arkansas University of 356 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: Arkansas is playing in Missouri state. The game ends way 357 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: closer than people anticipated. You need to google this thing 358 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: and read about this guy. I think he was the COO. 359 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: He became infuriated by the traffic broke a guy's back 360 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: rear window out. Guy gets out of the car and 361 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: he's like, what what's going on? Like why did you 362 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: just break in? They get into a fight, and the 363 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: guy tries to bite his nose off. I mean he 364 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: meats Coo. Even in like the British Book of Ugly 365 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Bar Fighting, they'd be like, that's a bit strong, you know, 366 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: walking dead, that's like the Walking Dead. And so everybody's 367 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: been making jokes the beyond Meat guy like, Okay, he 368 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: doesn't want meat in his hamburger, but he's fine just 369 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: biting a guy's nose off, And so allegedly, I guess 370 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: we're staying in the general realm of culinary, not with 371 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: the nose, but with the meat beyond meat. Sorry, that's 372 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: getting weird. Um. But the other thing is the VEC 373 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: Murphy is the Surgeon General of the United States, UM, 374 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: and he is horrible on COVID Okay, he is about 375 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: as bad a COVID public health officials you can imagine. 376 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: But of all of his takes including you know, we 377 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: know that masking works, and you should get your six 378 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: shot and seven, eight, nine, ten shots as well and 379 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: all this. Of course, did you see this take that 380 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: he put out? It was National ice Cream Cone Day 381 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: yesterday and Vivek Murthy tweeted out the following, this might 382 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: be an unpopular opinion, but I love ice cream cones 383 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: without the ice cream clay. Has there ever been a 384 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: better data point of this guy has to be a sociopath. Like, 385 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: it's just not possible. Man. He went to looks like 386 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: a lovely ice cream parlor and said, I just want 387 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: the cone. This is matched really strange behavior. It's really 388 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: strange behavior. No, I haven't heard of that. And also 389 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: I did see Vavec Murthy said, so what would you 390 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: go with if it's National ice Cream Cone Day? What 391 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: would be your go to flavor? Joe Biden? Like, I 392 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: can't believe that they didn't have like a sixty minute 393 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: special on Joe Biden. The only thing I argue with 394 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: my family, I'm like my family gets mad at me 395 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: because I hate on strawberry ice cream so much, and 396 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: they think strawberry ice cream is delicious, and I'm just like, 397 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: because it's not that I don't think people should be 398 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: able to order it, but that it's in the Big three. 399 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Like you go to a lot of ice cream parlors. 400 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: They have chocolate, they have vanilla, and strawberry. I'm like, 401 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: I would I would do coffee, Rocky Road, pistachio before 402 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: I would do strawberry in the Big Three. I will say, 403 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: one of the great joys of having kids. I've said 404 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: this before, is you end up eating food that you 405 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: didn't eat that much for a long time when you're 406 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: an adult and you don't have kids. Maybe I'm in 407 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: the minority here, but we didn't Like my wife and I, 408 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: we did not eat, you know, much ice cream before 409 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: we had kids. And then you have kids and for 410 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: some reason, every night, when you're on vacation or you know, 411 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: there's a treat out there, you go get ice cream 412 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: way more, and you're like, why did we ever stop 413 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: going to get ice cream and we didn't have kids. 414 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: That's a good one. But vec Murthy by the way, Buck, 415 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: did you see him say that ten of his family 416 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: members had died of COVID. Yes, Alex Barnson nowan now 417 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: we're getting into serious stuff about his COVID policy. But yes, ten, 418 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: I just I find that that is his family. I don't. 419 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm ten to have ten people die of COVID, 420 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: not with COVID who happened to be one hundred years old. 421 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: Ten is an unheard of number for a physician, unless 422 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: his family has like four hundred people in it or 423 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: five hundred. Even then it's large number. Can I can 424 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: I go back this guy? This is like, seriously, Clay, 425 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: are both we are anti Fauciite radicals, Like that's that's 426 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: either one of us. It's like throwing steak into a 427 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: lion cage. You bring up any of the COVID lunacy 428 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: of the left, any of the truth is ours out there, 429 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: and you just get so fired up? Did you get? 430 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: We both of like sometimes I have to calm myself down. 431 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: We calm each other down, like, Okay, it's okay. Fauci's 432 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: he's he's going away at some point, he's gonna leave 433 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: us alone. At some point. I hope he goes away 434 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: in prison. Um he actually I think he should face 435 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: criminal investigation. That's a whole that's a whole other component 436 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: of this um. But you ask favorite ice, I mean, 437 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: for me, the ultimate ice cream. And this is not 438 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: gonna be a popular take, not as unpopular as cones 439 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: without ice. Criminal that's just that's indefensible. Yeah, pistachio is 440 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: just special for me. Pistachio is amazing. I love so. 441 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: You should have seen the face to face he made that. 442 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go from that. Now. I'm thinking maybe Vic 443 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: Murphy's choice on going just cone, I mean versus pistachio. 444 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: I would go mint chocolate chip a lot of times. 445 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: I also will go a subtle variation of cotton candy 446 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: or s'more because the kids get it a lot. And 447 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, it's really good. Chocolate 448 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: chip cookie dough I think is probably the greatest ice 449 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: cream invention of the twenty first century. Whoever came up 450 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: with that idea to put it into ice cream, It's 451 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: way up there in popularity. Here's my question for you, though, Buck, 452 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: I get furious. I want you to think about this. 453 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have what we've got a guest coming. Yeah, 454 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: Roma Davis up with us next from the roma, what 455 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: she thinks about this pro or con people doing ice 456 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: cream samples in front of you. 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Had never miss a minute of Clay 492 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: and Buck while getting behind the scene access to special 493 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: content for members only. Welcome back everybody, Clay and Buck 494 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: here and she made it through the crazy un general 495 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: assembly traffic and the mayhem Clay side note here, New 496 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: York city should not be where the UN is. First 497 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: of all, the UN should not exist, in my opinion. 498 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: Second of all, if it's going to exist, it should 499 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: be in like Nova Scotia. You know they still have 500 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: it next week when I'm up there, or will it 501 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: be gone? I think it's I think you're good. After 502 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: this week, it'll pretty as it's yeah, it's it's good. 503 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: It's just this one week. It's crazy. But Roma Darravi 504 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: is here with us now. She fought her way through 505 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: the madness. She of course, is the founder of Dravi Strategy. 506 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: She was the deputy for strategic communications in the Trump 507 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: White House. Roma, how you doing. I'm fantastic. How is it? 508 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: You know we do have we have ice cream questions. 509 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: We have so many questions, but I'll start with this one. 510 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: With Trump still in the headlines. Now, you saw the 511 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: ag earlier this week, you saw the weeks and weeks 512 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: of Marlago documents, all the hype from the media. What 513 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: was it like to be in that White House when 514 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: they were doing this stuff to you guys, when you 515 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: were still actually in the government, right, I mean Trump 516 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: is not even in the government anymore. But the lawyers 517 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: and the subpoenas and all the mess. Yeah, there's always 518 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: that moment of shock whenever the Democrats decide to have 519 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: another big law, another big witch hunt. But then we 520 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: really just brushed it off and got back to work. 521 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Trump is the energizer bunny. We're all constantly 522 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: trying to keep up with him in the White House. 523 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: He's always working on something positive for the American people, 524 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: tax cuts, securing the border, getting more jobs back here 525 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: from overseas manufacturing, etc. So, you know, it really was 526 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: a fast paced environment and we didn't stop and let 527 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: the Democrats distracted real quick. I mean, you talk to 528 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: the big guy himself and also people in Trump world, 529 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: what's your certainty that he's going to run again? You know, 530 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: if you would have asked me that question two years ago, 531 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: I'd say, I don't know. He has a lot of options, 532 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: But I just don't see the day that we live 533 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: in today, the where America is today. I don't see 534 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: a world that exists where he's going to sit back 535 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: and let someone else give it a go. Yeah, you know, 536 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: he's so passionate about America. He's not gonna he's not 537 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna give it up to Chance Romo Buck and I 538 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: talk a lot about obviously where we are as a 539 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: country right now, and both of us thought that Biden 540 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: would be a bad president and that he would make 541 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: a lot of poor choices. I don't think either of 542 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: us expected that it would be this bad. I mean 543 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: to the point Romo where it's almost impossible to point 544 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: to anything that Biden has made better since he took 545 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: over in January of twenty one. Did you expect him 546 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: to be this much of a disaster? Yeah, we all 547 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: expect did him to be asleep at the wheel, which 548 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: is exactly what he is. He is fast asleep in 549 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: the basement somewhere, whether it's in Delaware, Pennsylvania, or in 550 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: the White House, who knows. But I actually was at 551 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: an event yesterday talking about conservative trade and investment, and 552 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: I paused for a moment to think, what has Joe 553 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: Biden done on trade? Because Donald Trump did USMCA, he 554 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: renegotiated NAFTA, I mean, he pulled out of the Paris Agreement. 555 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: There's so many things you can point to where he's 556 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: making Americans more secure and prosperous. Joe Biden hasn't done 557 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: a single thing. I mean, on the opposite hand. He's 558 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: literally trying to give money to Iron of all people, 559 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: arguably one of our biggest adversaries ever. And you know 560 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: that's coming from a Persian Jew, right, So roma are Yeah? No, 561 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say you mentioned Iran. Are you 562 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: paying attention to the protest there? Because I think it's 563 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: probably one of the things that is receiving far too 564 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: little amount of attention right now, to see Iranian women 565 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: rising up against their own government. It feels like our 566 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: media has mostly downplayed this. Have you been paying a 567 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: lot of attention to it? Sure? Of course. So my 568 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: father is from Iran. We are a Persian Jewish family. 569 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: I am half. He came to America to pursue the 570 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: American dream. Has given me and my family a tremendous life. 571 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: And you know, it's really one of those things where 572 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: I think God every day that I'm an American citizen, 573 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: that I have the freedom, that I have the opportunity 574 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: to work my way up and work at the White 575 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: House of all places. There's no other country in the 576 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: world where you can have an immigrant come to a 577 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: country with absolutely nothing and end up working for the 578 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: leader of that nation. It just doesn't exist. There's tremendous 579 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: opportunity in America, and so I really pause on this. 580 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: What we're seeing overseas right now, what we're seeing in Iran, 581 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: it's heartbreakings also very hopeful to see the Iranian people, 582 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: the Iranian women and men, frankly, that are standing up 583 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: for their freedom. It's not often here and we're speaking 584 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: of Roman. Davi Dravi Strategies is her communication shop. She 585 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: did strategic communications in the Trump White House. We don't 586 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: often give high five to CNN, but Clain I always 587 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: say credit where it's due. And Christiane Amanpour was supposed 588 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: to sit down with Iran's president and he basically stood 589 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: her up and then had a staffer come out and say, 590 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: the president of Iran will only do the interview with 591 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: you here in New York City if you put a 592 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: headscarf on. To her credit, yes, she said no, And 593 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: I think that the symbolism there. I'm I Clay, I 594 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: throw her a high five on this one. Good for her. 595 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: I met Roma. I mean, I bet you feel you 596 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: in stronger about that. But I thought it was an 597 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: incredibly strong moment for her. Absolutely, it is a symbol 598 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: to that nation that they cannot not only can they 599 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: not continue these barbaric ways of life, these barbaric ways 600 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: of treating an entire gender, a singular gender, the female gender. Yeah, 601 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: it's oppressive, I mean extremely oppressive, extremely oppressive. And then 602 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: to come to America, the land of the Free, and 603 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: tell a journalist he will only sit down with you. 604 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: How very um barbaric and Persian and Iranian of him 605 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: to not even do it himself, and to be such 606 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: a coward. And how to sun We have a few 607 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: switching to the far less less serious, a few things 608 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: to throw your way here. Um. First of all, are 609 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: you a James Bond fan? Ooh, James Bond? You like 610 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: James Bond? Who like my martinis? The best? James Bond? 611 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: How do you take your martini? Share we go? Do 612 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: you have a favorite James Bond actor? Oh? I don't know, 613 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: but I heard they're bringing in a new guy. S Yeah, man, 614 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: that's right, Henry Cavill. They may be bringing in Henry cattle. 615 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: That was one thing. And the other thing Clay and 616 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: I were talking about is if you only get one 617 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: ice cream flavor for the rest of your life, what 618 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: is the ice cream flavor? Okay, my Persians about to show, 619 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: it would be a saffron pistachio ice cream pistachio. We 620 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: did not coordinate this. We've had two pistachio selections out 621 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: of three and I feel like I just need to 622 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: walk out of the studio today. And I think that 623 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: there was no collusions. There was no collusion. Do you 624 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about collusion? This is definitely collusion. We 625 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: need to have a four hundred billion dollars investigation into 626 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: how this happened. Big Pistachio got to Buck and to Roma. 627 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: It's the best advertisement they've had in decades to have 628 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: both of you come out. Big Pistachio. I do believe 629 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: it is. It is a prime export of Iran and 630 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: has been for a ripe pistachio nuts and Iranian exports 631 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: saffron as well. I think I think I'm right on 632 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: that America buying that super specific ice cream flavor that 633 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 1: she that she dropped the Sefron pistachio. That's like we've 634 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: got that in you know, in Manhattan. I don't think they. 635 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think we have that in Tennessee. I don't 636 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: think he takes it around saying what exactly. I'll be honest, 637 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: it's a little la well, Roman, David Ravi Strategies, Roma, 638 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: thanks for coming to hang out this year in studio 639 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: and Clay, where are you gonna take as a third hour? 640 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: My friend, We've got so many amazing calls and emails 641 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: into that we we're gonna have some fun, But unfortunately, 642 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: the stock market continues to tank. It's down at levels 643 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: we haven't seen since December of twenty twenty. The Biden 644 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: economy is cratering. We are going to talk with Adam Laxalt, 645 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: who may be about to grab a Senate seat and 646 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: helped to flip the Senate. He's going to join us 647 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: at two thirty, final hour of the week. Load up 648 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: those phone lines eight hundred two eight two to eight 649 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: eight two. We can have some fun as well. Roma, 650 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: thank you for making it up coming and hanging out 651 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: with Buck in studio, and we are going to hopefully 652 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: take everyone into the weekend a lot of fun and 653 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: hopefully making you a little bit smarter on all the 654 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: chaos that is going on out there on the day 655 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: to day basis. Don't look at your four oh one ks. 656 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: Whatever you do, eat some ice cream, don't look at 657 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: your four oh one k play Travis and Buck Sexton 658 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: on the front lines of truth.