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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com, part of the Giants podcast Network. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the special Front Office edition of the Giant Hubtle Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fordham University, an official higher education partner of

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. My name is John Schmilk. Today's

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Speaker 1: episode features a special interview featuring Bob Papa and Giant

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Speaker 1: Shuttle manager Joe Shane and head coach Brian Dable talking

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Speaker 1: about the final roster and previewing the Giants season in two.

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Speaker 1: But first, I want to do a little cross promotion here.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you go back and check out the last

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Speaker 1: couple of Giant Huttle podcast. We had Worn sharp On,

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Speaker 1: who's great with his analytics. He did a preview of

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Speaker 1: the Giants this year and looked around the NFL in

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Speaker 1: two episodes. Prior to that, Albert Breer did a good

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Speaker 1: season preview of the Giants. He covers the NFL and

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Speaker 1: writes there Monday morning quarterback column for Sports Illustrated. And also,

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Speaker 1: if you like the NFL draft folks, make sure you

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Speaker 1: go check out our Draft season podcast. It's a separate

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Speaker 1: podcast feed. Go subscribe to it or find it on

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Speaker 1: the Giants Apper podcast platforms everywhere or Giants dot com

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Speaker 1: slash podcast. The same crew from last year, myself, Eric Crocker,

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Speaker 1: Tony Pauline will get everyone ready for the college football

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Speaker 1: season and talk about some of the draft eligible players.

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Speaker 1: In our first episode, we're joined by Bruce Feldman, who

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Speaker 1: covers the college football for The Athletic and he's also

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Speaker 1: on Fox's high noon pregame show covering college football for them.

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Speaker 1: It's a really good conversation. We talk about Bruce Feldman's

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Speaker 1: freakslist and it's it's really good, so go check it

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Speaker 1: out subscribe to the Draft Season podcast. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: go to the interview with Bob and general manager Joe

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Speaker 1: Shane and head coach Brian Dable. Just to keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: this was recorded a little bit earlier in the week,

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Speaker 1: so we didn't want to get into specific details on

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the roster because there's gonna be so

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Speaker 1: much churn in the coming days and over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Things were gonna change after we finished interview, so we

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Speaker 1: didn't really dig into those specifics, but it's still a

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Speaker 1: really good preview of the season and how they went

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Speaker 1: about putting that roster. Together. So here's the interview Bob

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Speaker 1: Papa with Johnant, Show, manager Joe Shane and head coach

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable. I'm Bob Papa the Quest Diagnostics Training Center.

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Speaker 1: The Giants open up their season a week from tomorrow

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Speaker 1: when they take on the Tennessee Titan, and we welcome

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Speaker 1: in the head coach of the New York Giants, Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable and general manager Joe Shane. And, Uh, Joe, I'll

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Speaker 1: start with you. This has been obviously a tumultuous week.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get the roster cut down, you're investigating players

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Speaker 1: that are out on the street. How has it all

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Speaker 1: worked internally as far as the chain of command, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been. It was actually really a smooth process overall.

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Speaker 1: Like I was really pleased the way things worked out. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we start with our pro scouts. They evaluate

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Speaker 1: the entire league, uh, director level, you know, Tim McDonald,

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Speaker 1: Dennis Hickey, Brandon Brown, Chris Rosettie did a good job

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Speaker 1: filtering the the players that we need to get eyes on,

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Speaker 1: not only me, but the coaching staff. You know, they

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Speaker 1: all hands on deck, and uh, you know, we were

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Speaker 1: able to, you know, claim four players that we're excited

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Speaker 1: to work with. Coach, what about your job and your

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Speaker 1: staff's job bringing these people in that have not been

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Speaker 1: Because the rules that exist now through COVID, you can

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Speaker 1: bring guys up and they can be in your opening

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Speaker 1: you bring in the people that you want moving forward. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the way it's structure right now, the Joe's point is

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Speaker 1: then you have to be able to bring guys up

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about coach um this offensive line

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Speaker 1: You know, playing offensive line is difficult and you have

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Speaker 1: you your message. And we took a lot of time

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Speaker 1: That was a collaborative effort with Once we hired one person,

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