1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Here's Drew in the Lab right now. Good to see you, 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: John Harris waving your hand. 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: I'm Drew Doherty and you make three, the three of 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: us here on this in the Lab where we talk 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: about don't you Forget about Me? No getting into the 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: breakfast club, not getting into Simple Minds, great band minds, Wow, 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: I love simple Minds. 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: No, great band, forget about me? 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 4: And then what's that other one? 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: They had the big one, Don't You Forget About Me? 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: As their big one, But there's another one that's awesome. Goodness, gracious, 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm just funny. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: I can remember when I hear a song like, oh yeah, 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: I know, a. 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: Live and kicking that's oh I love yeah, oh good, yes, 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: it reminds yeah, you know. 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 5: Here's I found this out the other day. If you're 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 5: an eighties child like I was, or just interested. 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 4: In Meanwhile, PSA, everyone under the age of twenty is 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: now tuned out. 24 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 5: But yeah, exactly, But even even those that are twenty 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 5: or under, it's not the simple minds. 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: It's not the talking heads. It's simple minds and it's 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: talking heads. 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 5: I've learned that this week when talking Heads popped up 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 5: on my son's Amazon music and it popped up and 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 5: it said, it's not the talking heads and simple minds 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 5: is the same way. 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: So talking Heads, this must be the place top ten 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: song of all time for me. First song I put 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: on when I'm feeding the jukebox, Yeah at a bar 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: or something. 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 3: Talking heads? Wait was that burn? 37 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 4: What was the burn down the house? To do that too? 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so my brother in law tells a great story. 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: I think you. I'm not. 40 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 5: It wasn't my brother in law, but my brother in 41 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 5: law had a friend is it got a little bit andebriated. 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: One night and. 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 5: Apparently house got a house got set on the fire 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 5: and his buddy was sitting outside talking head song, burning 45 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: down the house, and yeah, woke up the next morning 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 5: and what had happened to the house. 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: So you know, things can happen. So I always remember that. 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: No more wondering. Now let's get into don't you forget 49 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 2: about Me? Because I think vander Meir or you came 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: up with that sort of phrase. As far as players 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: who are on the roster, typically younger who have shown 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: promise but for whatever reason haven't really broken through to 53 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: whatever the next level is, whether it's from good to great, 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: from contributor to starter, from really not contributing to contributing. 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: So there's there's lots of parameters here, but basically someone 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: who has not made a jump. There's a lot of 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: guys who are candidates for that that are on the 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: roster right now and driving in this morning on Wednesday, nice, rainy, 59 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: soggy Wednesday. 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: It's good for the grand Yeah. 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: I heard the guys talking, and we heard Nick Cassario, Executi, 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: vice president, general manager of the Texans talking with him, 64 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: and they brought up a name who was really intriguing 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: to me last year when the Texans drafted him very 66 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: very late, left tackle, Ladarius Henderson. 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: I don't know that he's gonna play left tackle. 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: For the Texans, but he was a guy who played 69 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: elsewhere for most of his college career and then transferred 70 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: and started a lot of games for the then national 71 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: champion Michigan Wolverines. Texans drafted him. Never really got a 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: chance to practice because he was injured and had some 73 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: stuff going on, but I'd see him around the building 74 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: every once in a while, and I read a fantastic 75 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: story about him. I can't remember who wrote it, but 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: it's at least four or five years old, and it 77 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: was in the Athletic and it was talking about his 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: time in Waxahatchie, Texas, up north of here, which is 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: just south of Dallas. And he's a fascinating kid, fascinating, 80 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: fascinating young man. I shouldn't call him a kid, but 81 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: he's somebody that Casario said this morning on the radio, 82 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: he's transformed his body. So this could be someone that 83 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: could be in the mix for competing at offensive line, 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: which we all know they've got to play better than 85 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: they did in twenty twenty four. 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: It will be the first to tell you that. 87 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: So Ladarius Henderson someone that I've I've seen, someone that 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: I've just chitchatted with in the hallway from time to time, 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: and I'm fascinated to see what he can do in 90 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Because you don't have any professional tape 91 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: on him. Everything you have is from twenty twenty three. 92 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: But he's an intriguing player who was a very important 93 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: part of that that Wolverine's team that won it all. 94 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: And I don't care. 95 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: Man, no matter who you were, if you're on a 96 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: national title team, let's see what you got, you know, 97 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: let's see what you got at the next level. Now, 98 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: the NFL is littered with names who won national titles 99 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: and then didn't do anything as pros. It's a different 100 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: skill set. But knowing who he is and knowing who 101 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: he could be, I'm intrigued, John, What do you think? 102 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 5: So he started his careers on State and then transferred 103 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 5: to Michigan, and it was. 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: But he played a lot. 105 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, he played a lot too. No, he played a 106 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 5: lot of a lot of football. And so when he 107 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 5: so when I saw him at Senior Bowl, I remember thinking, 108 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 5: I don't know, and I don't want to I don't 109 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 5: want to be that guy that looks at a guy 110 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: that Nope, that guy can't play. 111 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: And to be fair, to be fair, he was a 112 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: seventh round pick. 113 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: Well you say that about a round pick, you know 114 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: you're not being too overly judgmental about a seventh round pick, 115 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: say stuff like that. 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: But I thought he was really struggling. 117 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 5: When I found out he had been hurt, it made 118 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 5: it made all the sense in the world because I'm like, man, 119 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 5: the guy that I watched during the season looked look 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 5: more comfortable than that, like moved better. So when I 121 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: found out, oh yeah, he's hurt and he's gonna essentially 122 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: red shirt in twenty twenty four, I thought, this is 123 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 5: the best thing. I almost feel like if you could 124 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 5: do that, if you could do that for year six 125 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 5: and seventh round players in particular, to give them a 126 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: year to red shirt, to learn the NFL way, to 127 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 5: work out in the workout hard, rehab whatever injury you've got, 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 5: and even you know, in a case where you know 129 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 5: he just kind of red shirt guy, if you can 130 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 5: just red shirt him and bring them along, you know, 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: in a little bit slower. You know, maybe they don't practice, 132 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 5: or maybe they do practice, but you can keep them running. 133 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: And in some cases NFL teams will do that with 134 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 5: later round picks. 135 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: They'll put them on a practice squad and that's kind 136 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: of the way they do it. 137 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: But in Ladarius's case, being injured, it was like, okay, 138 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 5: essentially it's going to be a red shirt year, Like okay, 139 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: get your body right, get get rehabbed, so get your body. 140 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: Fixed, then get your body right. 141 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 5: And that was one of the things that stood out, 142 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: and if you do that, I wonder too. 143 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: And we've talked about this that I think. 144 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 5: When when I wrote him up, I remember thinking tackle 145 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 5: guard and so I remember, I want to say, when 146 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: we talked to Nick, they were thinking about him as 147 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 5: a guard, like that was going to be his position here. 148 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: So you get kind of a double whammy in the 149 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: sense that you get. 150 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 5: To rehab your body, you get to stick around the 151 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 5: NFL building, and now you get to transform your body 152 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: into maybe a little bit more of a guard body, 153 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 5: or maybe you need a little bit more upper body 154 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 5: strength where you need just overall core strength and all 155 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 5: that to. 156 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: Be able to play that position. But I think. 157 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: Just hearing Nick talk about him and knowing the work 158 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: and look, it's very clear that this. 159 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: Building values the values. 160 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 5: Guys that put in the time, put in the effort 161 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: and get in this building and they do it with 162 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 5: the best intentions possible. 163 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: And I think Ladarius has done that. 164 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: So the tricky thing is, Okay, he hasn't taken a snap, 165 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 5: he hasn't put on a helmet since that Senior Bowl, 166 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 5: So that's gonna be. 167 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: So that Senior Bowl was January of twenty four, right. 168 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: So we're gonna go all the way to August of 169 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: twenty five. So you're talking a year, seven months, a 170 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 5: lot of time year, a little over a year and 171 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 5: a half. But you haven't, you know. So he's gonna 172 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 5: have to callous his body to that physicality again. 173 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: And but it's also gonna be intriguing. And here's the 174 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: thing too. 175 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 5: You said it, if Ladarius doesn't work out, it's a 176 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 5: seventh round pick, right, But if you see something, even 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: if he turns into a backup offensive lineman, that you 178 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 5: know you can rely on that, Okay, And Charlie Heck 179 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: was the same way, and Charlie was a fourth rounder. 180 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: You know, Okay, Charlie's got to go in the game 181 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 5: because Laramie's hurt or Titus has banged up Charlie. Charlie's 182 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: gotta go play. And Charlie would hold his own and 183 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 5: do a really good job. And it really wasn't until 184 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 5: Charlie hurt his foot where it really kind of slowed 185 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: down any kind of progress that he was he was 186 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: making as this team's swing tackle, a very important position. 187 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: I think Fladarius man, what if what if all of 188 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 5: a suddenly they're steps in and you're like, man, he 189 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: takes over right guard and I mean found fifty bucks 190 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: in your pocket, you know what I mean? That's that 191 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 5: is to me what makes it kind of exciting. And 192 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: I do think of the five offensive line positions and 193 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 5: it and it's funny because I've been thinking this way 194 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 5: for a while. When Nick said it about Ladarius Henderson, 195 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, maybe that's the guy I've felt like 196 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 5: all along, there's gonna be an upset somewhere on that 197 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 5: offensive line that we don't see coming. The Mike Brisell 198 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 5: of the group that you don't you don't see coming. 199 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 5: And then you're like, WHOA, Mike's really good, gets this done, gets. 200 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: The job done. 201 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 5: And so when he mentioned Ladarius, that kind of popped 202 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 5: up the other name that I think about a lot, come. 203 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: Out, come out, and it's don't you forget him out me? 204 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: It's not yeah, we don't have a burning flag while 205 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: throwing in the ground saying this is going right, right right, 206 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: It's like, don't forget about this guy. 207 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: He might do something. 208 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: Well, here's another one for you. 209 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: And then I have a three pack. After you've name, 210 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 4: I got one for you. 211 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 5: And you should love hearing this because he is a 212 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 5: Pony or a former Pony player. 213 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: That's Jalen Thomas. 214 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 5: And again, Jalen played tackle at SMU, and I felt 215 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: like guard was his best position, maybe even center at 216 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 5: that point. But you know, he was a guy that 217 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 5: I'm trying to remember when he got here, like eight 218 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 5: and twenty three on it twenty four. I feel like 219 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 5: there were a couple days in training camp where I'm 220 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 5: watching him thinking, man, there's something there. He's thick and 221 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 5: stout and tough. I think there's something there. And then 222 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 5: hurt and it's. 223 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: Like, dang it. 224 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: Because there was kind of this rash of injuries in 225 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 5: twenty three. I can't remember if he's part of that. 226 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: I know he was part of it in twenty four, 227 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 5: and I feel like he's a guy that, man, if 228 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: you worked with him every day, you know, could he 229 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 5: be a guy that gave you something on the inside 230 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 5: as well. So I feel like that's another guy Jalen 231 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 5: Thomas from smu've been with the organization for a couple 232 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 5: of years now. Don't forget about that guy, because I 233 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 5: think he's got a little something as well. So you 234 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 5: throw those two guys in the mix, who knows you 235 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 5: start performing with the threes, you do some good things. 236 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 5: You get in a preseason game, you have a long 237 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 5: stretch in the second half, Now a sudden, hey, maybe 238 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: we should get them some reps with the two's. Get 239 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: a few more preseason games, and before you know it, man, 240 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: you're right there on the cusp of one injury away 241 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden injury happens and you 242 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 5: got to step in and that who knows if that 243 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 5: that could happen. I just always think of Mike Brycell 244 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 5: in these situations. He's one of my favorite Texans of 245 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 5: all time. Biscuit Brizel. He was just such a such 246 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 5: a character, but just a really really good guard that 247 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 5: nobody thought anything about. Everybody, as you said, Drew forgot 248 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: about him, and then this guy ends up being a 249 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 5: really a piece of one of the best line, uh 250 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 5: one of the best offensive lines, if not the best 251 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: offensive line the Texans ad. 252 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 3: And he was instrumental in that. 253 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: You just brought up Jalen Thomas and he's one of 254 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: the Jalen's on this team. Jayleens the one of us 255 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: that were uh that were drafted a quartet. There's also 256 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: j it In and when you said that. I thought, oh, 257 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: John hasn't been paying attention because we just cut Jalen 258 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Thomas a week ago. 259 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: And I was wrong. 260 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: As I was looking at my phone, it was a 261 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: Jayden peevee that defensive tab we saw, so pardon me, 262 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: but I'm h I was listen. 263 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 3: Things happened so fast and furious. 264 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: I was coaching a I was coaching a fifth grade 265 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: baseball game the other night, and the umpire, yeah, he 266 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: was about he comes over to me like middle of 267 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: the game, during the break in between innings, and I 268 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: thought he was gonna tell me something about like hey, 269 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: watch the box here or watch He's. 270 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: Like, hey, so what you guys gonna do about all 271 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: these Jalens. I'm gonna figure it out. 272 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 5: And listen, it's Jalen with an I, n Jalen with 273 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 5: an I, and Jalen with the een, Jalen with an oh, 274 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: and that you were just talking yeah, and then you 275 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 5: got Jalen who is know why but ellie En and 276 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 5: Jalen peatree. 277 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: Old man and I forget some things. And that's what 278 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: just happened. 279 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: I guess you just yell out Jalen and see who responds. 280 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I got a three pack of don't you forget 281 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: about me? And there's a variet to hear so receiver wise, 282 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchinson and John Metchi yep, don't you forget about them? 283 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: Who knows? This is year three essentially for both yep 284 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: that that's sometimes a good jump, and then a guy 285 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: who did really well but maybe is just scratching the 286 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: surface Kaylen Bullock safety on the other side, so much 287 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: has been so much attention has been paid to the 288 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: CJGJ addition and the corners and all the great stuff 289 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: that they did. But let's not forget about that three 290 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: pack there. What does Hutchinson do to leap forward? What 291 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: does Mechi do to leap forward? Because we're starting to 292 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: see some flashes from each of the three, and I 293 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: could see those guys all taking leaps because on another vein, 294 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: Casario brought up Kamari Lasser and how his body has 295 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: changed the aw season. So goodness gracious, what's that mean? 296 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: But how about that for a three pack? I like that, 297 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: and I think that the G one, maybe two, maybe 298 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: all three take a jump. 299 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 5: I think eyes from training camp are really going to 300 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: be again on the receiver because I think that's easier 301 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 5: to see. I think when it comes to the offensive line, 302 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 5: people will be able to see some things, but then 303 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 5: they'll have to rely on, you know, things that other 304 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 5: people are seeing. Mainly me and I try and give 305 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 5: them the best look that I can at that offensive 306 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 5: line and what's going on with it. 307 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: But I think most people want to see. 308 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: And I think when Jalen Knowle was drafted, I think 309 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 5: initially a lot of people were like, oh, that's it 310 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 5: for Mechi went got Christian Kirk, now you got Noel. 311 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: We've seen plenty of situations over the years where you 312 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 5: felt like a guy was they drafted a guy at 313 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: this position, Okay, this guy's done, he's you know, this 314 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 5: isn't going to happen. And then all of a sudden, 315 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: there's some injuries or something's happened, and that guy that 316 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: you were not supposed to forget about turns into the 317 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 5: guy that ends up being the guy for that position. 318 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: And that can happen. 319 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: And look once you know, we obviously know the story 320 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: of Mechi miss missing year one, and then year two's 321 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 5: kind of still shaking off the rust, you know, next year. 322 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: There were some moments I felt like in the playoff game. 323 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 5: There were some moments where he made some big catches 324 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: on third down, and you know, there's that long drive 325 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 5: that got us within one should type the game, but 326 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 5: got us within one, and both he and Hutch made 327 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 5: a number of big catches. And I just feel like 328 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: year three. And I'm glad you said it, because it 329 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 5: really is year three for both of them. 330 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: If for being honest, it's that that can. 331 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: Be a year where you start to have figured a 332 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 5: few things out, You've got your routine down. You obviously 333 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 5: have to learn a new offense. Everybody's got to learn 334 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: a new offense. But the faster you can learn it, 335 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 5: the faster you can play. And it might benefit their 336 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 5: skill sets better, that's exactly right. It might accentuate this, 337 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 5: that's right. And look, we've gone through this before last year. 338 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 5: Just just take we had the Big three. Everybody's excited 339 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 5: about the Big three, right, Nico missed five games. Injuries happened, 340 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: Tank got hurt in December and missed the rest of 341 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 5: the year and missed this year more than likely. 342 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: And Diggs got hurt Week eight. 343 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 5: So that receiver room has been hasn't you know, has 344 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 5: not been allergic to injury. 345 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: I wish they would be been unlucky. They've been unlucky 346 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: in a sense. 347 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: And hopefully you're building a group there that can withstand 348 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 5: an injury for a few weeks. 349 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: But look, if somebody gets hurt for the whole season. 350 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: Okay, we got to how layered is this group to 351 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 5: be able to handle an injury where they can step 352 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 5: in and do things if Nico were. 353 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: To get hurt. 354 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 5: Okay, what more does Christian have to do? What more 355 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: does Mets you have to do? And more to hutch 356 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: have to do? What more the rookies have to do? 357 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 5: And I think that's what's going to make this thing, 358 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: you know, pretty interesting. And I'll give you a guy 359 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 5: not to forget about it. And I think it's really 360 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 5: easy because when we talked when when most when the 361 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: draft happened, and when Higgins for second round and then 362 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 5: Noel third round, I think a lot of people were like, oh, 363 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 5: Matchie Hutchinson, that's the first thing they thought of. I 364 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 5: remember thinking, I like those two coming in. But don't 365 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: forget about Justin Watson. Yeah, just Watson with the Chiefs 366 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 5: time out. 367 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: This was a move Watson that happens within a flurry 368 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: of other fragient moves going on that people. I think 369 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: there's a large segment of the fan base that is like, 370 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: who's what Preston Watson that we even had him, or 371 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: even like who is this guy's been productive, you know 372 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: in the role he's been asked to fill in his 373 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 2: time in the NFL. 374 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: He was a guy that with Kansas City. 375 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: I felt like Patrick Mahomes would go to like I 376 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 5: used to have. I remember a long long time ago 377 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: when I was playing, and I remember my quarterback saying 378 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: to me, look, I'm throwing you the ball. Like he 379 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 5: trusted that I was gonna be that guy no matter 380 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 5: where I was, I'm. 381 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: Throwing you the ball. Even tho Thereughrout really wasn't for me. 382 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 5: He was like, I'm throwing you the ball, so I 383 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 5: know you're gonna catch it and we're gonna make a play. 384 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 5: I feel like that was the way Patrick Mahomes was 385 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 5: with Justin Watson when all the other flashy receivers with 386 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: the Chiefs. 387 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: Would drop a pass, run the wrong route. 388 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 5: He's Justin Watson who sort of settled everything down. Now 389 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 5: he's also an ivy leaguer, so I'm gonna I'm good 390 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 5: with that he went to Penn, which borders on non IVY, 391 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: but I but we're still I'm just joking because we 392 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: always joked about Penn being the one that was kind 393 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 5: of always taking the guys that had the SATs that 394 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 5: were lower than everybody else. 395 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: We always that's an inside IVY League joke. Oh they're good. 396 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 5: It was always, well, you know, they're really good because 397 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: they take the guys to all the low SAT scores 398 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 5: so they get better out. 399 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: So that was always the joke that we went with. 400 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: But I saw him walking the hallway the other day 401 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: and I'm like, he's put together. Well, he's six three 402 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 5: six four big wide receiver, can be a deep downfield threat. 403 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 5: I do not forget about that guy. I think a 404 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 5: lot of people have talked about Braxton Burials enough, you know, 405 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 5: the Alex Earl connection all that. But anyways, I think 406 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 5: a lot of people talk about Burrios. Oh you know, 407 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 5: he could be a returner, you know, put returns whatever. 408 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 5: So I think he's been talking about him. But and 409 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 5: then obviously the rookies, everybody gets excited about them. And 410 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 5: because of the rookies, we mentioned, hey, don't forget about 411 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: Machian Axe, and I think that's. 412 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: I think that's on everybody. 413 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: You know, Hitler's good guy to remember. 414 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, but Justin Watson to me at wide receiver is 415 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: a guy where don't forget about that, dude. Because the 416 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 5: numbers may not be obscene, they may not even be like, oh, third, fourth, 417 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 5: wide receive whatever, But it's like when he would make 418 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 5: those catches, the opportunities that he was given, he would maximize. 419 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: Chiefs loved him. 420 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: They yes, when they he was one of those guys 421 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: that he signs here and their social media crew as 422 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: a thank you Justin so. Not everybody gets those thank 423 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: you so and so messages. So that's a nice select 424 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: Yes exactly. Time to segue into something different. Okay, I 425 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: know you're a fan of this. I'm a fan of 426 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: this guy. Uh Toro? 427 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: Oh what the mascot yet? 428 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: Yes to so listen. 429 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: Toro has been nominated for the Mascot Hall of Fame. 430 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: He got really really close a year or so. It's 431 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: an injustice like Andre Johnson was not in the Pro 432 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame so close. Toro belongs and deserves 433 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 2: to be in the Mascot Hall of Fame. So being 434 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: recognized for his outstanding performance and dedication to the Texans 435 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: in our community. 436 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 4: He's not in yet. 437 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: That's where you come into play, you know, he's There's 438 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: twenty eight nominees representing eleven major league teams, five minor 439 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: league teams, twelve collegiate teams from all over, not just 440 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 2: the end of you know, all sorts of sports. So 441 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: go to Mascot Hall of Fame dot com. You can 442 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: vote once per day from now until May twenty fourth. 443 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: Get Toro in the Hall of Fame. It's not going 444 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: to be out until like it gets with the group 445 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: once anyways, Just go to Mascot Hall of. 446 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 4: Fame and start voting when you can. 447 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: Yes, But I want to talk about get Toro in 448 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. There's two main reasons he's going 449 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: in What he does as a mascot, which is hilarious, 450 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: acrobatic and awesome on game days and so far on entertaining. 451 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: But really more so. 452 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: The guy is an animal, no pun intended, an animal 453 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: in the community. I mean makes a massive, massive dent 454 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: in a positive way, whether it's fighting bullying, whether it's 455 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: getting kids ready for the Star Test, and then just 456 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: going around and supporting all the community initiatives that the 457 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: Texans have done over the years. But the thing that 458 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: sticks out to me the most that I tell people 459 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: whenever they ask about Toro is when the Texans played 460 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: in London in twenty nineteen. The team got there on 461 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: Friday and practice that afternoon. Yes, Toro and the cheerleaders 462 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: and some other traveling folks, they got there on Thursday, 463 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: the day before some things. I got there with our 464 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: videographer editor producer Tyler Shuttarth. 465 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: We got there Tuesday. We had to kind of set 466 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: the scene. 467 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: So we were we land on Tuesday afternoon, shooting stuff 468 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: at three in the afternoon on the Thames River. All 469 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: day Wednesday, were doing stuff all day Thursday, we're doing stuff, 470 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: and then Friday comes and we link up with Toro 471 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: and the cheerleaders and by this point I'm kind of fried. 472 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit, a little bit jet lag. But 473 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: we're sitting on a bus. It's a rainy London, London day, 474 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: and I'm in one seat and behind me it's Toro 475 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: and the other guy who who does or did a 476 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: lot of his social media, all sorts of things, not 477 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: just social They basically are a two man team. And 478 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: I was amazed at the fog. I'm in I'm listening 479 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: to them planning. Okay, we're gonna do this shot here 480 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: and we'll be able to use it tomorrow, but then 481 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: we'll reuse it Saint Patrick's Day for this. We're gonna 482 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: do this shot today at three, and we'll double it up. 483 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: For Christmas and for Valentine's. 484 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: This shot tomorrow we're going to use when the comic 485 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: comes through six years from now, and we'll have that. 486 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: I was stunned planning the preparation, the foresight, the thoughtfulness 487 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: that these guys have just with you know, with what 488 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: they were doing on a day to day basis, but 489 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: they go out in the community. They do so many 490 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: good things. They're Hall of famers. In my book, put 491 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: Toro in the mascot Hall of Fame. What's your I 492 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 2: know you got a zillion Toro stories. Yeah, what's your 493 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: Toro story? Why you think he belongs? 494 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: It's funny you said that, because as you start down 495 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 5: that way, I was a little disappointed because that was 496 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 5: kind of where I was thinking that his impact in 497 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 5: the community with kids in particular. 498 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 3: Huge, like when he goes to schools. I just it's incredible. 499 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I think about that as a kid. I 500 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: mean I grew up in Richard Roseberg and you didn't 501 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: have Toro, didn't have a mask. Yeah, I don't think so. 502 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: The guy who wore the silver helmet, but he was 503 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: really a mascot. He was awesome. 504 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: But I remember, you know, had been a kid, you know, 505 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: third fourth grade. 506 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 5: I wasn't even here in Houston at that point, but 507 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 5: been kid mascot comes in and it's reading for the 508 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 5: star test like that would have been so cool for 509 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: me as as a little kid, that that memory. And yeah, 510 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 5: you grow up and you're like mask but it is 511 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 5: really cool. And I see him at practice. The players 512 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: are coming down and you know, they're all screaming for 513 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 5: autographs and then invariably you hear people Toro, Toro. They 514 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: want Toro to come take a picture taken out and 515 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 5: he obliges every single one. And when you really think 516 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 5: about it, yeah, it's professional sports, it's entertainment. We're in 517 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 5: the memory business. We're in the business of creating memories 518 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 5: for people that. 519 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: They have forever. You talk to people. I had somebody 520 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: last year that. 521 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 5: Miranda, she is the daughter of somebody owns a little 522 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 5: bakery over in in Heights that I'd love to go 523 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 5: to give him a shout out. 524 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: Angela's ov and they're incredible, and. 525 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 5: I was going there and finally one day, cause I've 526 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: been in her sofage, you start talking to me, You've 527 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 5: got to be friends. And she mentioned she had never 528 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 5: been to a game before, and so I said, well, hey, 529 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 5: I'll give you my tickets for I said, what are 530 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 5: you doing Sunday night? Can you get off work on Sunday? 531 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 5: And they're like, well, yeah, we usually out here by noon. 532 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 5: And I said, well, how about Lion's Sunday night here. 533 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 5: She's like, oh my god, that was incredible and she 534 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 5: I gave her the tickets in my seats and Toro 535 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 5: came by said hey, you know, it's just like everything 536 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 5: that she talked about was like this great grand memory 537 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 5: and that's what and that's what Toro does. He is 538 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: the individual that's providing those memories for all these people, 539 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 5: for all these little kids, for adults. I mean, you 540 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 5: think about parents that you know are there with their 541 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 5: kids and the smile on their face just lighting up. 542 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 5: And Toro's also an author how many Mascots going into 543 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame and written a damn book. 544 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: Written a book, not many, not many. Two years ago 545 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: training camp, so it is Stroud and Anderson's rookie year. 546 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: One of my boys best friends. So I have a 547 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: fifth grader and a third grader. This kid's a fourth grader, 548 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: their friend. They played sports together. This kid knows the 549 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: sports like like the boys. Big Texans fan. He was 550 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: out of training camp and he was getting autographs and 551 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: his dad, one of my friends, texted me later that 552 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: day and he said, he's so pumped he got his 553 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: shoe signed by Toro. 554 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: Dot and CJ. Stroud. 555 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: The kid loved that shoe got signed by c J. Stroud, 556 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: but he was equally, if not more, pumped that Toro 557 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: signed a shoe. You've done a zillion events and appearances 558 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: over the years with the organization where Toro is with you. 559 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 4: So have I. 560 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: A lot of times the kids know who the player 561 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: is that is is at the event, and you you know. 562 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: You get a range of guys. You get pay frontline quarterbacks. 563 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes you get guys for further down the roster 564 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: play different positions in quarterback. 565 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 4: They always the kids, whether it's a boy or girl, 566 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 4: regardless of age, they always know who Toro is. 567 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 2: You don't always know who the player is, right, They 568 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: don't know who I am always they know who Toro 569 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: is bananas, and it's always it's always so much fun, 570 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: and I just try to whip the kids into a 571 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: frenzy whenever you know, lifting. 572 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: Like ramp up, the screaming I'm sure are. 573 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: Exactly. 574 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: But anyways, Mascot Hall of Fame, put him in, Put 575 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: him in. Let me make sure I get the website correct, 576 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: because we got to get this Mascot Hall of Fame 577 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: dot com. Please vote once per day for our guy Toro. 578 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: He belongs he as Andre Johnson belonged in the Hall 579 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: of Fame, so too this Toro. 580 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 4: Okay, john gonna be with you. But we'll do this 581 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: again next week and. 582 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: We'll be talking about O tas rookie Mini Camp and 583 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: all those other fun things. 584 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: Cool, very cool,