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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran,

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Speaker 3: Christ Is King DHS says Mexican drug cartels are now

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Speaker 3: offering cash to target ICE officers and other federal agents.

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Speaker 4: President Trump considering US strikes on Venezuelan soil to combat

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Speaker 4: The President. Also escalating US operations against Venezuela is authoritarian

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Speaker 4: In a statement overnight, Venezuela accusing Trump of trying to

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Speaker 5: You're going to be strongly recommending at the request of

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Speaker 1: Mark Bray was denounced by the president of Dartmouth University

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Speaker 1: Catch So, Mark Bray, have you disavowed the violence against

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Real America's voice today is October sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Anno Dominie. Well, folks, you just saw

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Speaker 1: So in his mind, it's not necessarily just the anger

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Speaker 1: And I think that's right, doctor, Doctor Joseph. We're coming

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Speaker 4: His boys.

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Speaker 5: About influences. These are influences.

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Speaker 6: actually seen some of these these these transgender killers come

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Speaker 6: This is actually where I used to live in Utah.

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Speaker 6: I was down and I was down in Saint George

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Speaker 6: and again, extremely conservative part of the state. And just

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Speaker 6: I think it was just a year ago. And this

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Speaker 6: is kind of a personal anecdote here, which is may

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Speaker 6: sound a little bit crazy, but Mia Bailey, who was

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Speaker 6: transgender and actually killed both of her parents and nearly

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Speaker 6: killed her brother and his wife, was actually found in

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Speaker 6: my backyard during the manhunt. And so again this is

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Speaker 6: I know, this sounds this sounds insane. We woke up

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Speaker 6: one morning and our house was surrounded by SWAT teams

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Speaker 6: and police. And when you look into this story again,

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Speaker 6: you know, you know, conservative family and then lots of

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Speaker 6: internal problems within the family you know was reported in

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Speaker 6: the media. And I can't help but wonder was that

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Speaker 1: You believe or someone who you believe is a scapegoat

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Speaker 1: our next guest de transitioner, my friend Chloe Cole joins us. Now, Chloe,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm dating well. And there's a couple of stories I

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Speaker 1: wanted to pick your brain about, and we were, you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of trussing this around, and I said, oh my gosh, Blob,

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Speaker 1: we would be absolutely perfect for this. So it seems

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Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, there's this study that comes

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Speaker 1: out that says, low and behold, even though we were

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Speaker 1: told the transgenderism was on the rise and it was

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Speaker 1: here to stay, it's now all of a sudden falling

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Speaker 1: with gen z. How did this happen?

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Speaker 2: I think what the study exposes, and it specifically focuses

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Speaker 2: on the non binary aspect of gender ideology, which is

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Speaker 2: it refers to people who who identifies transgender but with

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Speaker 2: neither male nor female, And I think it's out of

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Speaker 2: all the aspects of trans ideology, it's the one that

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Speaker 2: is the most fueled by psychosis because at least like

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Speaker 2: male to female individuals and female to male individuals identify

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Speaker 2: with the opposite sex, right, but there is no such

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Speaker 2: third sex in human beings. And what it shows that

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Speaker 2: in recent years the rates of non binary identification in

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Speaker 2: young people have started to rapidly all down, and it

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Speaker 2: shows that it's fueled by social contagion, and as it

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Speaker 2: starts to fade out of popularity, less and less young

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Speaker 2: people when it's primarily young women who are falling into it,

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Speaker 2: are identifying with it. And I think it's exemplary of

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Speaker 2: the cultural wins that we that conservatism are starting are

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Speaker 2: starting to have. But unfortunately, what the study what isn't

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Speaker 2: showing in the study is that the rates of overall

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Speaker 2: trends identification with either male to female individuals or female

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Speaker 2: to male are still steadily rising. And we still have

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Speaker 2: a ways to go in the culture when it comes

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Speaker 2: to eradicating this from our culture, from our from our

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Speaker 2: court systems, and from our institutions. But we have to

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Speaker 2: take the winds where they're at well.

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Speaker 1: And in addition, So is it possible though, that for

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Speaker 1: people that have been so committed to this and who

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Speaker 1: are refusing to come out of it, or perhaps have

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Speaker 1: gone so far that they can't de transition as you did,

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Speaker 1: is it possible that then this produces a form of

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Speaker 1: let's say, cognitive dissonance, whereby in they feel as though

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Speaker 1: their place in society is slipping away, and therefore it

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Speaker 1: turns them and perhaps people that they are in relationships with,

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Speaker 1: towards more and more drastic and extreme measures, which could

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Speaker 1: include say violence.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I've actually personally seen this in my journey

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Speaker 2: over the last few years. As we started to have

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Speaker 2: these wins in the culture, in our court systems and

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Speaker 2: in legislation around this, in the protection of children and

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Speaker 2: keeping trans ideology out of our schools and hospital systems,

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Speaker 2: we've also seen this community of people become increasingly desperate

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Speaker 2: and increasing violent because they're still i mean, their lives

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Speaker 2: are still their minds are still entrenched in the dogma

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Speaker 2: around it. They legitimately believe that there is a genocide

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Speaker 2: being waged against this group of people. And when you're

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Speaker 2: told that the only way that you can be happy

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Speaker 2: is by being somebody who you're not and being beholden

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Speaker 2: to medicine for the rest of your life. And by

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Speaker 2: people taking that away from you, you're having human rights

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Speaker 2: strict from you. What won't you do in response to it?

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Speaker 1: And so you know, here we are trying to unpack

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Speaker 1: what happened to you know, my friend and yours, Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: And we see this individual, Tyler Robinson, who's now he's not,

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Speaker 1: you know, transitioning himself as far as we know, but

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Speaker 1: he was involved in a relationship with a man who

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Speaker 1: was transitioning may still be for all we know. And

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Speaker 1: I think they have them on ice somewhere. Hopefully he's

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Speaker 1: the Twigs is cooperating. But this guy comes from a

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Speaker 1: conservative family LDS family, and yet he finds himself down

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Speaker 1: this rabbit hole of increasingly extreme online behavior and interests,

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Speaker 1: some of which include, and I'm just going to say it,

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Speaker 1: adult themed furry pornography, video games, interactors and simulators of

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Speaker 1: about furries, even which included, as I'm told, includes something

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Speaker 1: called the furry equivalent of child porn, which is cub porn.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how does someone go from and you know,

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Speaker 1: I know you personally have told your stories so many times.

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Speaker 1: But how does someone go from a background like that

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Speaker 1: to ending up in a place where they're mixed with

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Speaker 1: such a toxic environment and ecosystem.

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Speaker 2: I mean to speak from my own experience, Well, my

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Speaker 2: mom and dad were raised in the face and I

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Speaker 2: mean it sounds like Tyler's family was a lot more

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Speaker 2: faith oriented. And even though my mom and dad did

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Speaker 2: not raise me strictly by Christian ideals, eventually as I

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Speaker 2: got older, we still had that closeness and those values

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Speaker 2: that were influencing the way that they raised me. And

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Speaker 2: even I think that even Christian and closely tightly knit

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Speaker 2: families and parents in their generation were not really prepared

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Speaker 2: for the degeneracy that was going to spill out on

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Speaker 2: the Internet and through our culture. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: there really would have been any way to have predicted that,

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Speaker 2: And so a lot of a lot of parents have

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Speaker 2: been really unequipped to dealing with that and knowing just

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Speaker 2: understanding what the dangers are on the Internet, and even

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Speaker 2: just the fact that there are very bodyolog psychotic spaces

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Speaker 2: on the Internet that at first seem to be innocent

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Speaker 2: spaces based around things that most most children, most teenagers

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Speaker 2: and young people have an interest in things like video games,

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Speaker 2: they play, things like art, or books, they read, or

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Speaker 2: musicians they listen to. A lot of the communities around

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Speaker 2: these innocent interests in recent years have also become very

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Speaker 2: ideo spaces for ideological indoctrination of young people. And that, personally,

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Speaker 2: is what happened to me and people. When people think

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Speaker 2: of the radicalization that happens in left wing spaces online,

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Speaker 2: they often think of transgender people. But what a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't understand is that transgender ideology is something

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Speaker 2: that radicalizes even people who never become transgender identified, because

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Speaker 2: they're being told that there is a there is a

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Speaker 2: there's a genocide being waged against transit andified people happening

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Speaker 2: in the United States, and that every person has a

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Speaker 2: step in the fight against it, and that they should

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Speaker 2: take whatever measure is necessary to stop that. And that's

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Speaker 2: why you'll see so many people at lgbt rallies, at

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Speaker 2: trans protests who aren't even transidentified, but they're often people who,

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Speaker 2: like Tyler, are dating somebody who is, or they have

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Speaker 2: children of their own who they are induction mating.

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Speaker 1: And so this is this is so interesting because what

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Speaker 1: you're saying is it starts. It can be innocuous, it

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Speaker 1: can be totally innocuous, but it's that feeling of community

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Speaker 1: and then feeling that your community is under threat and

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Speaker 1: that increasing isolation and feeling as though the walls are

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Speaker 1: sort of closing in. And I actually I just asked Chloe,

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Speaker 1: when you were going, you know, through your journey, did

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Speaker 1: you feel like that? Did you feel isolated?

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Speaker 2: I definitely did towards the very beginning of my transition. Well,

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Speaker 2: part of it, I think was that I was just

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Speaker 2: in middle school, and when you were different in any way,

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Speaker 2: the kids around you when you're like twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

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Speaker 2: they're not going to react nicely. But I experienced that

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Speaker 2: even more so as I went through the d trensition process.

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Speaker 2: And it's incredibly difficult to go through, even more so

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Speaker 2: than initially transitioning, because it's like step step one of transitioning,

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Speaker 2: except you're back in reality after living three years of psychosis,

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Speaker 2: and there's no off ramp for you with therapy in

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Speaker 2: the medical system, and a lot of even your friends,

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Speaker 2: if you're young, might not really even know how to

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Speaker 1: Chloe Cole and Chloe you were just I apologize for

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Speaker 1: the gratuitous capitalism break there that we had to take,

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Speaker 1: but hey, what can I say? Socialism sucks and we

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Speaker 1: had to run some ads. But the point you were

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Speaker 1: talking about in your story regarding d transitioning the ice,

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Speaker 1: the fact that it feels like society is suddenly against

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Speaker 1: you right for choosing to walk away from this. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think what everyone can understand is certainly extreme life

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Speaker 1: choices that also led you to feel isolated. Hopefully before

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Speaker 1: you know, before you met with the Turning Point USA

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Speaker 1: and started coming and speaking at events where we all

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Speaker 1: really appreciate and absolutely love what you've done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. I mean, Turning Point has

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Speaker 2: been I mean, working with you guys has been a

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Speaker 2: great part of my healing and just getting my voice

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Speaker 2: out there and exposing this ideology for what it is

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00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: in the ways and it abuses children and our young

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Speaker 2: people and our culture and directly in our hospital systems,

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Speaker 2: and whereas this community of people and really leftism, radical

714
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Speaker 2: leftism as a whole, celebrates the destruction of these people

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Speaker 2: as they go further into the transition process. The moment

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Speaker 2: that you realize it was all along, it was all

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Speaker 2: a scam, that you regret every single part of it,

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Speaker 2: that you want to go back. They turn their backs

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Speaker 2: on you, They treat you like your garbage. You're outsted

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Speaker 2: from this community of people who essentially used to serve

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Speaker 2: as for many a second family, very very close friends

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Speaker 2: and people who we were once close within our lives,

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Speaker 2: and even our doctors turn their backs on us and

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Speaker 2: tell us either that our experiences are insignificant or that

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Speaker 2: we should try to continue transitioning instead and go in

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Speaker 2: the opposite direction. And many, many of them just don't

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Speaker 2: even know what to do with us, because there is

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Speaker 2: there are no standards of care for those who stop

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Speaker 2: their transition, There are no codes for them to even

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Speaker 2: bill for so there's just no off ramp for people

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Speaker 2: to stop their transition. And in a lot of the

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Speaker 2: recent detrentioned activism, the trenditioners have spoken about the dangers

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Speaker 2: of transitioning and the pain of not only going through

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Speaker 2: the process but also of coming out of it, and

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Speaker 2: transgender young people see that and they think, well, if

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Speaker 2: that's how miserable trying to come out of transitioning is,

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Speaker 2: why don't why would I ever have any reason to

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Speaker 2: come out of my comfortable little bubble of living this

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Speaker 2: lifestyle every day? And I think in order to combat that,

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Speaker 2: we also have to talk about the healing that detrenditioning brings,

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Speaker 2: and especially in recent years, as more awareness has been

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Speaker 2: has been has been given to it, and help these

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Speaker 2: people to understand that no, you were never born in

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Speaker 2: the wrong body, and they're never It's never too late

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Speaker 2: to go back, and you can find glory, you can

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Speaker 2: find healing and something outside of yourself. And your identity

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Speaker 2: does not come from what you believe about yourself or

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Speaker 2: what you call yourself, or the way that you present

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Speaker 2: yourself or what drugs you take. It comes from our

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Speaker 2: creation in God.

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Speaker 1: That's so absolutely profound and really is a question of

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Speaker 1: identity when it comes down to it, it comes down

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Speaker 1: to a question of who am I and then starting

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Speaker 1: to resent who that person is, and we all have

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Speaker 1: an identity, and then rather than accepting it and accepting

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Speaker 1: that it's what God gave us, it's lashing out at

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Speaker 1: that identity, lashing out at God, lashing out at perhaps

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Speaker 1: our own choices in the past, and trying to put

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Speaker 1: on an identity that's just completely impossible in it. It

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Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise us then that it leads to in some

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Speaker 1: very tragic and horrible cases, these psychotic breaks. And we've

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Speaker 1: seen school shooting after school shooting. There was a school

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Speaker 1: shooting at a Catholic school in Minneapolis, Minnesota, just a

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Speaker 1: couple of days before Charlie Kirk was shot and killed.

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Speaker 1: And when he was shot and killed that I was

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Speaker 1: actually sitting right in the chair right here when that

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Speaker 1: happened on September tenth, And of course I hoped very

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Speaker 1: much that it was false, that it wasn't true. Ended

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Speaker 1: up not being that case, And there was a profile though,

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Speaker 1: there was a profile that arose and I think in

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Speaker 1: a lot of people's minds that there may be a

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Speaker 1: transgender connection to this, and lo and behold, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what it was. There was a man involved with a

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Speaker 1: transgender lover who was up on that roof and allegedly

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Speaker 1: is the one who pulled the trigger to kill Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: He's now on trial, he's now on death penalty, has

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Speaker 1: been sought after, is being sought after, and in fact

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Speaker 1: he's hiring He's got I think about a million dollars

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Speaker 1: in public defenses to helic defense funding, and so he's

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Speaker 1: hired a lot of people who have been involved in

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Speaker 1: high profile cases before this one. This one lawyer who

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Speaker 1: defended the Menendez brothers. Another also defended the Olympic bomber.

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Speaker 1: We're also facing the death penalty, So it's going to

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Speaker 1: be huge. It's going to be a huge thing. And Chloe,

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Speaker 1: do you think that as we unpack more details about

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Speaker 1: this the personal life here, that perhaps some of the

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Speaker 1: things that come out might be a little familiar to

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Speaker 1: you given what you went through.

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Speaker 2: I think so I really wonder just what we're going

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Speaker 2: to see coming out of this case. But one thing

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Speaker 2: that I do know is that this is a community

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Speaker 2: of people who are deeply spiritually and psychologically and emotionally broken,

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Speaker 2: and they're acting out because of that. Even though Tyler

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Speaker 2: himself wasn't trans identified, many people within these radical letling

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Speaker 2: spaces are people who are still struggling. They're trying to

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Speaker 2: find some identity, and many of them find that through

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Speaker 2: what they think is activism but ultimately turns out to

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Speaker 2: be radical acts of violence. They are so they're suffering,

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Speaker 2: and I think going forward in our culture, that's exactly

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Speaker 2: why we need to continue the discussions around this. I

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Speaker 2: think that Charlie put it best. When we stop having

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Speaker 2: these conversations, that's when the violence begins. And this violence

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Speaker 2: has been has been escalating over the years as the

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Speaker 2: as the left has been panicking, they're panicking because they

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00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: tried to stifle the voices of Christians of conservatives for

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Speaker 2: so long. But their lives are being exposed and in

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Speaker 2: the sunlight away that we are bringing.

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Speaker 1: It's all slipping away.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for me to fight until the

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Speaker 2: very end.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Thank you so much. Where can people follow you?

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Speaker 2: I am on x as well as Instagram, and I

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Speaker 2: have a YouTube channel as well at chuo cole c

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Speaker 2: h o oo.

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Speaker 1: Co l e God bless ully come back soon. I

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Speaker 1: want to unpack more and more of this. We right,

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Speaker 1: We're at a time, ladies and jealous of you. Later,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. As always, you have my permission to

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Speaker 1: lay four