1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: All right, the baseball's hitting the water. That means it's 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: another episode of splash Hit. We're excited joining today. I'm 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: fp Santanselo, broadcaster for the San Francisco Giants, joined by 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Susan Slusser, beat writer reporter for the Chronicle for the Giants. 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: She's nice enough to join us today, But first we 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: got to take care of some business. Subscribers on YouTube, 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: subscribe to us on YouTube. Excuse me, rate five stars 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. We're pushing to get our 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: first thousand subs. 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We're having a lot of fun with this. 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: We've got some guests we're trying to get some guests 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: coming up, and uh, you know, I'll be coming and 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: going as my schedule allows. I'm a I'm not you're 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: the you're the permanent guy, but I'm gonna. I'm going 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: to join as I can. So so when we got 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: today FP. 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk about Joe Madden had some 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: strong comments on K and b R. 28 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: Then we're going to talk about the GM meetings. 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot going on in Las Vegas right now. 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: There's a new hitting coach and some free agent possibilities 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: and maybe some guys that the Giants already have in 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: house for options. So let's start with Joe Madden and 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: and what he said on CAMBR. He said it was 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: insulting that the Giants hired Tony Vtello as their manager. 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: And I was just listening to to it the other day, 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: and insulting is a strong words. So your thoughts on 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: what he said and what Joe Madden said on KMBR. 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: You know, I this is a weird one for me because, look, 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: I know Joe Madden's out there. I'm sure he's been 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: trying to like get back in to the managing game 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: for a while, and it probably is frustrating for him 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: to see somebody who does not have pro experience of 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: any kind get a job like this. But he's he's 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 2: usually known as a classy fella, and I think he 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: maybe misspoke. He's kind of a fun loving guy. He 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: might have even kind of meant it. I don't know, 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: slightly jokingly. I don't know. What I do know is 48 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: that in the SF Standard, my former chronicle colleague and 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: good friend John Shay talked to Tony Vtela at the 50 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 2: GM meetings yesterday, and Tony responded to this as graciously 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: as you could possibly imagine. He said, you know, he's 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: got nothing but like huge respect for Joe Madden. He 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: knows Joe Madden's one of those guys where the reputation 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: is he's got a big personality. He likes to let 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: a team show its character. That's one of the reasons 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: he's won. He's so well regarded by players for that. 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: And Tony vt tell us that, you know, he thinks 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: he's that kind of guy. He'd like to be that 59 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: kind of guy. He hopes Joe Madden's not so mad 60 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: at him getting this getting hired for this job that 61 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to talk to him because he's a 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: guy who was on his list to talk to. He 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: really wants to kind of, you know, go straight to 64 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: the source and find out some of like how did 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: you do this? So I suspect they will probably talk 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: very soon, and I bet that's a hilarious conversation when 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 2: it does. I hope we hear about it because I 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: think Tony, I mean, knowing Joe Madden and from what 69 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: we're learning about Tony Vitelo, I think those two are 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: kind of natural friends. But Tony really handled this beautifully. 71 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: And that's you know, the first kind of high profile 72 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: guy who has said on the record, like what are 73 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: they doing here? So interesting? 74 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it gave me. 75 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: It gave me I didn't get an interview vibe giants. 76 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: And it kind of had old man get off my 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: long vibes. 78 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: And I think you're right in the said Susan that 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: he realized what a strong statement he is that was, 80 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: because he's not stupid, but he realized how strong a 81 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: stated that was. And the whole rest of the interview, 82 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: if you listen to the whole thing, he tried to 83 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: backpedal the rest of the way, and what else is 84 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Tony going to say publicly. I'm sure amongst his friends 85 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: he's like wow right out of the gate. 86 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: And I'm sure there's some sentiment through. 87 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, just like Joe Madden said, where hey, 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: you know that is insulting. There is guys that rode 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: the bus for twenty seven years. There are guys that 90 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: paid their dues. But I think also what Joe Madden 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: said was, you know, it's more about relatability with the players. 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 4: It's more about getting through to the players. 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: And I've talked to a lot of coaches in Major 94 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: League Baseball and they've said it's not so much the message, 95 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: it's how you connect with players. It's all about connectivity 96 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: with the players. So I asked Tony the RUSSA one day, Susan. 97 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: This was in the press box in Washington, DC, and 98 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: I said, Tony, I always want to be a big 99 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: league manager. That was one of my dreams. And I said, 100 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm still tinkering with the idea. The broadcasting things going 101 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: really well right now. What would be some advice you 102 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: would give to a young big league manager? And Tony 103 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: just pulled me aside. One of the nicest guys I've 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: ever come across, and I consider him a good friend, 105 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: he said. FP The biggest mistake young managers make is 106 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: they want to show people how much they know versus 107 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: getting your players to play for you. He said, the 108 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: number one thing for a young manager is getting your 109 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: players to play for you, not to show how smart 110 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: you are, like with bunt defenses and strategy and pitching 111 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: moves and bullpen usage. It's getting your guys to play 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: for you. And I think that's the number one thing 113 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: Tony Vitello has going for him right now. And there's 114 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: going to be naysayers. There's going to be a lot 115 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: of old school baseball guys. It's the only sport I 116 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: think we're really stuck in our ways. Like there's all 117 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: kinds of new stuff coming out in other sports, but 118 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: baseball so stuck in their ways that when you do 119 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: go out of the box and hire somebody that's a 120 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: college coach, it's going to ruffle some feathers. 121 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: You know, Larissa would be a good resource. You know, 122 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: he was kind of non traditional too. You know, he'd 123 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: gone to law school, you know, hadn't been a big 124 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: league player. You know, he didn't check every single box. 125 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: He had paid his dues as a as a minor 126 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: league guy. But he wasn't the traditional guy for sure. 127 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: And look at his career. You know, he's a Hall 128 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: of Famer. There are plenty of guys who pay their 129 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: dues and come up and don't do anything. I mean, 130 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: it's not a it's not a guarantee that you're going 131 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: to be a great big league manager. We've talked about 132 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: this already, the fact that Buster Posey has taken this 133 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: big swing, he's behind him the way to Buster Posey. 134 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: And then you've got, of course, Dusty Baker, now Bruce 135 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: bochi is guys to bounce things off of right there 136 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: with you. You've got your your buddy Jay Singler right 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: next to you as whatever title it's going to be, 138 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: probably bench coach or assistant manager, something like that. He's 139 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: got so many positives around this. I don't think he's 140 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: worried at all about Joe Madden. Joe Madden's not really 141 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: a factor right now in the big leagues anyway. And 142 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: I can tell you what the Giants players are going 143 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: to look at something like that and go like, oh no, 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: don't come after our guy. You know, that's a way 145 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: to get guys to get come together a little bit too, 146 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: is like, Hey, maybe we could say that internally, but 147 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: nobody outside better be saying something like that about our guy. 148 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: And I think that's that's going to be a little 149 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: bit of a plus too. It's really interesting situation. There 150 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: are going to be times and Tony Vitellos said this repeatedly. Look, 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: I know I don't have pro experience and something I'm 152 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: going to have to deal with. He very much seems 153 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: like a guy who knows what he doesn't know. And 154 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 2: they always say that's so important for leaders, particularly coming 155 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: into a new job. You just can't assume you know everything, 156 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: and he knows he doesn't. He's been very upfront with that, 157 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: pretty self deprecating too, But I really just like the 158 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: sort of generosity of spirit he showed in responding to this. 159 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: I think that was that and that will be noticed too, 160 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: particularly by the other big league managers. 161 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: Well public please got to say that. I'd love to 162 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: hear what he said privately about it. 163 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: But if I know Tony Vitella like I think I 164 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: do already and spending some time with him, he's been 165 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: a sam and Swish swimming upstream his whole career, so 166 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he takes this and it motivates him. 167 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: So when you're always the underdog, and even the Italian underdog, 168 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: and I could speak to this stuff like this, it's 169 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: fuel in your tank. So this will motivate him, especially 170 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: if he starts to think, well, if that's the sentiment. 171 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: And I think we'll change subjects here in a minute. 172 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: I think that the Giants and I talked to Tony 173 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: about this afterwards. I said, you got to be the 174 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: most hated team in. 175 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: Baseball this year. 176 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: You got to piss everybody off. 177 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: This isn't making friends and going out there and hugging 178 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: people before the game. And like, if the Giants and 179 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Tony Bytello are doing it the right way, they got 180 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: to piss people off this year. They got to be 181 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: the most hated team in baseball, and that means they're 182 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: doing their jobs, they're doing things the right way. 183 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that because I know Buster has 184 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: said a few times like, you know what, I don't 185 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: like this players hugging guys from the other team before 186 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: the game. Like, that's not what we're here for. This 187 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: is you know, this is a competition. You know, Buster 188 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: the ultimate competitor. Of course he doesn't love stuff like that. Uh. 189 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: And you know, baseball has gotten to be a little clubby, 190 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: Like you know, you see guys just hanging out before 191 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: the game all the time. You'll see guys from the 192 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: other teams sometimes come over and hang out behind the cage. 193 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't remember that that used to happen. That's that's 194 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: all a little unusual. So uh, I don't I don't 195 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: mind going in with a little bit of an edge, 196 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: you know, hang with your buddy after the game, that's fine. 197 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: But pregame, we're you know, we're in it to win it. 198 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: You know, go away. I'm not talking to you now. 199 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna say hi at first base or 200 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: whatever we wesed. 201 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: To yell when guys hug, no love making on the field, 202 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: and if and if you like him that much, taken 203 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: to dinner. 204 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: Is that the word you used. 205 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: No, we did say, don't love making on the field, 206 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: and if you like him that much, take him to dinner. 207 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: So I would I love it to be the fighting 208 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: Giants this year and pissing people off and bat flip 209 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: it and all this stuff they did at Tennessee within reason. 210 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: But like you know, when you talk about the chip 211 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: they have to have on their shoulder. Maybe it starts 212 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: with the manager and your direct reflection of your manager. 213 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: I always thought this could this could be interesting, and 214 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: I think it could be a fun season. 215 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: And Tony definitely is going to use this as fuel 216 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: in the tank. 217 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: And like we talked about, you know, the last show, 218 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: his first speech in spring training, you think it'd be 219 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: something about attention to detail and how the Blue Jays 220 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: missed the World Series by this much on the play 221 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: at the plate, and if we just increase this much 222 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: in our defense and our base running, in our energy 223 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: level every day, in our two strike approach and whatever 224 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: whatever they implement, I think they're going to win a 225 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: lot more games than they lose this year. 226 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you mentioned the Blue Jays because our 227 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: next topic is Blue Jays related. The Giants have a 228 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: one at least one new hitting coach that we now know. 229 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: It sounds an awful lot like a Giants player. Of note, 230 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: it's not Hunter Pence, Hunter Mints. What do we know 231 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: about him? What do you think we can expect from 232 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: a guy coming from the Blue Jays And he's not 233 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: a household name either. This was an assistant hitting coach. 234 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: So what do you think he brings and what do 235 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: you know? 236 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about him. I do know 237 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot about the Blue Jays. One of my best 238 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: friends is a broadcast for the Blue Jays, Joe Siddle, 239 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: So I tuned into a lot of games this year 240 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: just to hear his voice. And then all of a sudden, 241 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: you start to fall in love with a scrappy bunch 242 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: of players that didn't strike out a lot. And I 243 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: think when you talk about some things that Giants need 244 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: to improve on, I think they were nineteenth in Major 245 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: League Baseball and strikeouts this year with a little over 246 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: eight a game. And when you look at what the 247 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: Blue Jays did, they were second in baseball. They struck 248 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: out six point seven eight times a game. They put 249 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: the ball in play, but they didn't sacrifice power and 250 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: they didn't sacrifice average. 251 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: And what does that mean. It's just a mindset. 252 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: We used to say two for yourself and one for 253 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: the ball club, meaning let it brit for two to 254 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: your first two strikes come out of your shoes. But 255 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: then when you get to two strikes, make an adjustment 256 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: and spread out choke up a lot like Dom Smith 257 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: did last year a lot like Wilmer Flores has done 258 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: in the past, where you put the ball and play, 259 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: good things happen. What's your batting average when you strike out, 260 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: it's zero zero zero. 261 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 4: It's always going to be zero zero zero. 262 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: And the old I guess the new philosophy with analytics 263 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: is you know, what's what's a ground ball to short do? 264 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: With two strikes, you can still do some damage. 265 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: And I think there's some certain guys in the Giants 266 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: lineup that, yeah, like Raffie Devers, swing out of your 267 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: ass with like two strikes. 268 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: I don't care. 269 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: But Matt Chapman could be a two seventy hitter. 270 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: Willia Damas could be a two seventy to eighty hitter 271 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: with a two strike approach. And now you're putting pressure 272 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: on the defense. You're putting pressure on the pitcher. I 273 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: got the Padres numbers right here. I'm sorry, the Blue 274 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: Jay's numbers right here. The Padres were third. That's why 275 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: I said that. I'm reading it. The Padres struck out 276 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: eleven hundred and sixty one times. That was third in 277 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: all the baseball The Blue Jays were second with one 278 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: thousand and ninety nine. The Royals were first with one 279 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: thousand and ninety six. So the Blue Jays were just 280 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: three strikeouts more than the. 281 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: Royals last year. 282 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: And I think moving forward with the Giant Susan, they 283 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: got to be better with two strikes and they got 284 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: to put the ball in play. 285 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: You know what this I had a long conversation with 286 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: Matt Chapman right at the end of the year and 287 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: Rostoria after the season ended about Matt Chapman's approach with 288 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: two strikes because it was terrible, and he would tell 289 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: you that, and he talked to me about it on 290 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: the record. He was really disappointed in it. There were 291 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: some reasons, and absolutely this was the last thing he mentioned. 292 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: But you know that the hand injuries he had, which 293 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: by the end of the season it was both hands. 294 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: The one had the ligament strains that were so severe, 295 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: you know, for a while they thought they were torn, 296 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: and then the other he had that huge, absolute like 297 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: wound on the heel of his hand, and he really 298 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: couldn't choke up any He has choked up some in 299 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: the past with two strikes. He just couldn't. He could 300 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: not hold the bat any further up or it was right. 301 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: He was feeling it right there, and he couldn't wouldn't 302 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: have swung with a bat with any authority doing that. 303 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: But he said early in this season, the two strike approach, 304 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 2: it wasn't just him, it was a lot of guys 305 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: because nobody was hitting and everybody was trying so hard 306 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: to you start going a little bit out out of 307 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: the zone. I mean, this is typical of any team 308 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: in a slump, but particularly with two strikes, you're really 309 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: trying to like protect and it just he you know, 310 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: it kind of snowballs, but particularly for a Chapman, and 311 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: then the physical stuff. But he said, that's what he 312 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: is spending the off season working on, is the two 313 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: strike approach, hitting with two strikes choking up. I think that, 314 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: especially with Matt Chapman doing that, we're going to see 315 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: an emphasis in spring training from everybody because he's he 316 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: is really, you know, one of the leaders of the 317 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: position players by far, very forceful. When he's doing something, 318 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: I think everybody is going to get really right on 319 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: board and serious with it. So that's going to be 320 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: an interesting development. But if Matt Chapman can start and 321 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: having like a league average two strike hitting approach, that's 322 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: massive where he hits in the lineup. 323 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just a mentality too, It's just wanting 324 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: to put the ball in play with two strikes. I 325 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: think guys that strike out a lot, Susan are afraid 326 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: to strike out. And what happens when you're afraid to 327 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: strike out? You're afraid to get to two strikes. 328 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: So what do you do early in the count? You swing, 329 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: You want to put the ball in play. 330 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: You don't want to get to two strikes because now 331 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: you start overthinking it and I'm going to strike out again, 332 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: and then you go out of the zone again to 333 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: get to two strikes. Where the mindset is not so 334 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: much the two strike approach. It's like, I'm not afraid 335 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: to hit with two strikes. I'm comfortable in a one 336 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: to two count. A two to two count now I fight. Now, 337 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: i stick my nose in the dirt and I'm going 338 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: to battle you. And I think if you have that 339 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: mindset one through nine and everybody or most guys are 340 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: buying into that, now you're making it really tough on 341 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: a starting pitcher, and you're getting into bullpens. And I know, 342 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: maybe getting into bullpens isn't what he used to be, 343 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: because everybody throws a million now, so at least you're 344 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: making a picture work to get through your lineup two times. 345 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean put the ball in play. 346 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: You know. 347 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: One of the Giants better hitters with runners in scoring 348 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: position with two strikes was Patrick Bailey. And this was 349 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: a guy who really struggled at the plate most of 350 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: the year until toward the end. I like the fact 351 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: that he finished strong, by the way. I thought that was, 352 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: you know, but I don't think anybody was going to 353 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: talk up much of what he did in the first half. 354 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: But he was reliably coming through with runners in scoring 355 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: position because he was willing to put the ball in play. 356 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: You know, he was moving guys over, he was hitting 357 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: sacrifice flies. I love that. But you mentioned Don Smith 358 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: and Wilmer Flores. Both of them will choke up, both 359 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: of them, like, really focus on putting the ball just 360 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: in play with two strikes, really good approaches. It's possible 361 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: neither comes back obviously. That position right now sort of 362 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: first d h A lot of bodies Devers has got, 363 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: you know, first DIBs. Eldridge is probably big in the 364 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: mix now, very much looks like will be on the 365 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: opening day roster if if you know, you talked about 366 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: trading him last week a little bit, I don't know 367 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: that's certainly there's a lot interest in him. I don't 368 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: think that's a joke at all. I think if they 369 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: want a big piece, that's probably the guy that they're 370 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: going to have to move. Who knows whether they do 371 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: or not. They certainly value him. But I really liked 372 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: what dom Smith brought a lot. I would love to 373 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: see him come back. And you know, I think everyone 374 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: knows I'm big Wilmer Flores staying like I'm just I 375 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: love the guy. I know he's on the down side 376 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: of his career, but look what he did earlier this season, 377 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: last year, and then Dever shows up. His playing time dips, 378 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: of course, his numbers dip, but that guy's a professional hitter. 379 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 4: Uh. 380 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: He's never going to be a fast guy. He's not 381 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: gonna steal you a base. He's not good in the field. 382 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: But as a bench guy, come on, I still think 383 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: he's got value. There's no way they keep both. But 384 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: I know I'm kind of throwing this out of the blue, 385 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: but do you have strong thoughts on either guy? If 386 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: he could keep one, which do you keep I'll. 387 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: Keep Tom Smith all day. Tom Smith is a winning player. 388 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: He's a championship player. He's gold glove first baseman. He 389 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: gets your clutch hit. He's a winning player. The Giants 390 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: need more winning players. I would sign Tom Smith. He 391 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: can play the outfield. It's not just a first baseman. 392 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: He can play left field, whatever he can dh. He's 393 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: a defensive replacement for devers every single day. So there's 394 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: your safety net with a two or three run lead 395 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: in the seventh inning. And more importantly than all this, 396 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: or just as important, I should say he's a good teammate. Yeah, 397 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that isn't the biggest commodities 398 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: that used to be back in the old days, where 399 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: this is a guy that's joyful to be around. He's 400 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: in a good mood every single day. He's always pumping 401 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: guys up. He's a little bit quiet, but he's always 402 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: got a smile on his face, and he's ready to 403 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: play at a moment's notice. 404 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: He got a bunch of big hits. He was the 405 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: guy for when he played they won. 406 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 407 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: And then when he got hurt on that stretch against 408 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: the Dodgers on the double play, and he messed up 409 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: his hamstring. They kind of went south after Dom Smith 410 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: got hurt at the. 411 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 4: End of the season. 412 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: So when you have winning players like that. And I 413 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about Tom Smith, and I. 414 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: Mean I watched him play in New York. I was 415 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 4: just like, oh, this's a big prospect. 416 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: The more I saw him play, he's as good as 417 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: I've seen at first base. And then just the two 418 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: strike approach and the clutch hits and putting the ball 419 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: in play. 420 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: I'm a huge Dom Smith fan. I'm sure Buster and 421 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: Zach are too. 422 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: That's a guy that I would make a priority to 423 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: sign back for twenty twenty six. 424 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: Well, with what he did last year, there's gonna be 425 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 2: a lot of teams after him. He's a good all 426 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: around player, and I mean he's a sweet fielding for 427 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: ast Baseman. I had no idea. I said that to 428 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: him one day, you know, I just don't remember seeing 429 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: you play first base that much, and he was like, yeah, 430 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: it's playing behind Pete Alonzo, Yep, yep, that'll do it. 431 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 2: But so I asked him how he learned to play 432 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: first base so well, and he had steps behind his 433 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: house in La growing up, and he just go throw 434 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: like get the craziest angles. He could just try to 435 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 2: get the ball bounce off in wild angles by trying 436 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: to hit different areas on the steps, And I was like, 437 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: that's just so smart. He had all sorts of smart 438 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: smart ways. Yeah, he just wanted to be a great fielder, 439 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: and he really is good. He just hadn't gotten a 440 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: lot of opportunity to do with the big league level. 441 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: What were all these teams doing missing on this guy 442 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: so long? 443 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: I know, I love when you guys goes to his 444 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: right towards second and then he just takes the ball 445 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: and he throws like a grenade up in the air 446 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: and it's all slow and it's like right on the money. 447 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: As the pitcher's crossing the bag and then all the 448 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 4: diving plays his feeds. 449 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: He's got a good arm. I could do a whole 450 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: show on Tom Smith. I hope they signed him back. 451 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's good. Well. Free agency. We touched on 452 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: free agency a little bit last week because the GM's 453 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: meetings are, you know, are going going on. We talked 454 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: mostly kind of about some really super big names and 455 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: then you know possible that you know, maybe Bryce Harper 456 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: gets made available at some point. What else you got, 457 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: because it's clear to me that right field, maybe catcher 458 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: or backup catcher Samarias where they're going to be looking 459 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: free agency, and definitely in the bullpen. We talked a 460 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: little bit about starting pitching, but bullpen, right field, what 461 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: you got. 462 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm a big Harrison Vader fan. I like what he 463 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: did in Philadelphia when they traded for him. I think 464 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: he hit I got it right here. He hit over 465 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: three hundred with five home runs, kind of sparked the Phillies, 466 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: and when he got hurt, they kind of lost their 467 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: energy level, almost like what Drew Gilbert did for the 468 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: Giants when he first got called up. He's a plus 469 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: center fielder. Giants need to work on their outfield defense. 470 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: He's an energy guy. He seems like he'd be Tony 471 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Vaitello's favorite player. 472 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 4: He can ruffle some feathers too. 473 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: He can piss some people off, so maybe that's what 474 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Tony wants to But he's only had two full seasons 475 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: with an ops above league average twenty eighteen to twenty one. 476 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: There's a risk that he kind of comes back to 477 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: the norm next year. 478 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 479 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: I just two seventy one, seven teen home runs fifty 480 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: four RBIs, he had one hundred and twenty four hits, 481 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: And I just remember watching a lot of Phillies games 482 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: down the stretch, and he was what made them go 483 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: on a team with so many superstars, with Kyle Schwarber 484 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: and Bryce Harper and Nick Castianos and Trey Turner, he 485 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: was the guy in their lineup that was getting all 486 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: the big hits. 487 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: He was pumping him up. He had an energy of 488 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: that ball club. I wasn't a. 489 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Big Harrison Bader fan as a Yankee or even a 490 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: met But the more I watch him with the Philadelphia 491 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Phillies this year, I'm like, that guy'd be a great giant. 492 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's some good names out there. 493 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: You know. 494 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: I've mentioned Kyle Tucker. I know he goes with a 495 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: qualifying offer, but and they've they've given out a few, 496 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: you know, over the years, and they've also been making 497 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: noises about not tying up too much money and a 498 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: lot of long term big deals. You know, they have 499 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: quite a few already, So you know, that might be 500 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: a pipe dream him or Cody Bellinger, but I like 501 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 2: the idea of one more big bat, and especially somebody 502 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: that can go get the ball like a Bellinger. So 503 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: who knows. And you know what, he's done a lot 504 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: of one or two year deal, so maybe he is 505 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: a guy that they potentially could consider. 506 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 4: I was watching MLB Network this morning. J. P. 507 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: Morosi said that the Guardians are listening to offers for 508 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: Stephen Kwan, Bay area guy. 509 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: I mean, let's go, I mean, gold Glub. 510 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: Is there anybody better in left field than Stephen Kwan 511 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: with his defense? 512 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 4: And you're talking about upgrading on defense? 513 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: John Hoolee is great, But if you put a Quan 514 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: and left in a Bader and center and maybe John 515 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: Houlei and right with his arm. I think he has 516 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: a right field arm and might might pan out as that. 517 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: I mean, here, you are you moving Elliott Ramos in 518 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: this scenario. 519 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not a GM Susan. Don't put 520 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 4: me on the spot. One hundred. 521 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: You're going with a four man outfield? 522 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 4: I am, I am. 523 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna We're gonna have a rover. 524 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: Honestly, Tom posted one hundred and fifty six games last year. 525 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: To seventy two. 526 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: He's got a little pop in his bad and one 527 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy hits and he's just a baseball player. 528 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 3: He's a baseball player. 529 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all in favor of that. I and I'd 530 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: also go out and try to get Joe Ryan, another 531 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: local guy. Absolutely do that. 532 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 4: Joe Ryan might want to be might want to be 533 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: a Giant. I've heard rumors, so that would be cool. 534 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, I'm sure he would. 535 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: He's friends with Logan Web. They're really good. They're we're 536 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: real tight. 537 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: You know what, Logan is friends with I think at 538 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: this point almost every everyone had a profile player in 539 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: the major leagues because we throw it almost any mare, Like, 540 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm friends with Logan, So that's what happens when you're 541 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: like one of the friendliest guys guys. 542 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: BI did we talk about him being fourth for the 543 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: cy Young? That's pretty cool? 544 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah we should. 545 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean, since we're segueing in the Logan he was 546 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: so great on the show the other day. We can't 547 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: thank him and the Giants enough for for for coming 548 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: on the show. But Logan Web fourth and the cy Young. 549 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: He led the league in strikeouts, he led the league 550 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: innings pitched. I don't I think people care about wins 551 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: and losses anymore, But is he ever gonna win one? 552 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: With these guys in front of him right now, and 553 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: does he even care? I think he would trade that 554 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: for a World Series championship any day of the week. 555 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 2: Oh, he would want that. He'd take the title over 556 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of hardware. Yeah, for sure. It's tough 557 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: in a division with skens now Yamamoto, My goodness. I 558 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: would take a guy who's in the top five every year, 559 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: like Logan Web and is right up either leading or 560 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: second and innings pitched. This we're in the era of 561 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: how many starting pitchers can you keep healthy all year? 562 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: The answer is often just a handful, you know, two 563 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: or three if you're lucky, And Logan Web is just 564 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: a horse and he's great, so I yeah, top five, 565 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: that's fine. Just he would say win a title? I 566 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: think he did. Didn't he say something like that. I 567 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: don't know what we're asking him about world like X 568 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: or y I or a championship? And of course he 569 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: said a championship, because that's what we're here for, right. 570 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: I think he means it too. It's not BS like 571 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: he absolutely means that. He's so old school. You know 572 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: what look nice next to him is Freddy Peralta. I'm 573 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: just saying and maybe Willie Damas says, hey, Freddy, it's 574 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: really good here in San Francisco. 575 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: Get your butt over here. We're about to win. I know, right, Suddy. 576 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, yeah, they were next door neighbors in Milwaukee. 577 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: They are tight. So that's a good call. 578 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: Giants need another FP. 579 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: I feel like, so Freddy Peralta should come to the 580 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: Giants seventeen and six last year with a two seven. 581 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: O e er. 582 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: And he's a gamer man, and he's a legit ace, 583 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: and you throw him in the mix. And maybe these 584 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: free agents were talking about and a new manager and 585 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: playing with energy, attention to detail and working on the 586 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: little things that win games, and playing the game with 587 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: a passion for two and a half three hours every 588 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: single night. Now you're talking, you're talking October baseball. But 589 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: as we know, you to stay healthy and there's it's 590 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: a long season for me. 591 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they definitely need some more starters. Greg Johnson 592 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 2: was pretty clear when I talked to him that they 593 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: don't want to do a lot of long term deals 594 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: for starting pitchers. So I don't I don't know, necessarily, 595 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: I'd love to see it. So maybe the friendliness with 596 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: a Damas familiarity with Zax Menazzian. Maybe those kind of 597 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: things help. You're right, he'd look fantastic. 598 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 3: Well, the Birds dealt Corbin Burns a year before he 599 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 3: was up for free agency, Devin Williams the same thing, 600 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: and Josh Hader, So that's kind of their mo Like 601 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: there's a small market team, they don't have a lot 602 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 3: of money, and right before you're a free agent, they 603 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: want to get valued for you. 604 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 4: So they've done this before and I. 605 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: Think Freddy Peralta will look great in the orange of black. 606 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: Well, we've talked a lot about the outfield, but they've 607 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: got some internal options. You know, they've talked about some 608 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: of the internal options in the rotation. Is Marco Luciano 609 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: ever going to be a factor? Is Grant McCrae. You know, 610 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: he was up and down a little bit last year. 611 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: Obviously one of the best field or options that they have. 612 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: We talked last week about the fact that a lot 613 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 2: of their young outfielders coming up not necessarily the best defenders. 614 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: He's a good one. Matos is a guy that some 615 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: teams are targeting in trades potentially, So do they have 616 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: an internal option that potentially could be in right or 617 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: do they have to go free agent for right field? 618 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: That's great question, Susan, thanks for teaming up. I think 619 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: they got to go free agent. And I love McCray. Grant. 620 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: Mccray's one of my favorite guys to be around on 621 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: a daily basis. 622 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: That throw he. 623 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: Made from right field this year in such a big 624 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: game was incredible. I think it was one hundred and 625 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: something miles an hour. And he can cover ground out there, 626 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: he can run the bases. The Giants need speed. I 627 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: think he has value at the major league level. The 628 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: one thing I will say about anybody in general in baseball, 629 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: when you get your day in the sun, you gotta 630 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: shine because you don't know when those opportunities are going 631 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: to come. And when I think of the young players 632 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: that I covered back East, whether it was Bryce Harper, 633 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: whether it was Juan Soto, they got their chance and 634 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: it happened. 635 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: It either happens or it doesn't happen. And with Lucy kind. 636 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: Of extreme examples FP, I. 637 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, that's this true. 638 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: But like Luciano's had some chances, Matzos has had some chances. Yeah, 639 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: And are they the type of player? And I think 640 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: just in general, with Zack and Buster and Tony. Who 641 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: you get in free agency has to be the style 642 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: of play that you want to have for one hundred 643 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: and sixty two, because you get in trouble if I 644 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: want this guy just because he's good. 645 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: I want this guy just because he's good. I want 646 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: this guy just because he's good. 647 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: And then you got a hodgepodge and you got too 648 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: many different types of players, Like what's our philosophy. Are 649 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: we gonna be scrappy? Are we gonna run the bases, 650 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: or we have speed? Are we gonna play defense? 651 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 3: Or we're just gonna swing out of our ass and 652 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: hit home runs and throw it as hard as we like? 653 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: What's our philosophy? 654 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: And then you sit down at that big long table 655 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: and said this is the kind of team I want. 656 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: Then it helps you like folk us in and narrow 657 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: in on what kind of players you want. So with 658 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: these guys, lucianle just he seems like a low energy 659 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: guy to me, but I really I don't know him 660 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: very well. 661 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 4: I've only seen him in snippets. 662 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: Matt TuS has had some opportunities where I'm like, this 663 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: guy's the best, and then all of a sudden it 664 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: goes the other way. 665 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: And he hasn't really wrapped his head. 666 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Around not playing every day, and that's a big adjustment 667 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: for a young player. You play every day at A ball, 668 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: you play every day at double A, play every day 669 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: at triple A. 670 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 4: You get into a rhythm, you slow the game down. 671 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you get to the highest level 672 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: with the best players and you're playing once a week 673 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: or twice a week if you're lucky. And that was 674 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: hard for me late in my career to deal with that. 675 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine being a twenty three, twenty four year 676 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: old and all of a sudden, like nobody ever. 677 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: Taught me how to be a bench guy in the 678 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: miners and. 679 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: How to stay ready and how to keep my eyes 680 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: locked in on one hundred miles an hour when I'm 681 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: not playing. And that's why veteran guys are so much 682 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: better as bench guys, and it retards the progress of 683 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: minor leaguers when you bring them up and just sit 684 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: on the bench. 685 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely for sure. And I think we do have 686 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: an idea what the team's looking for, particularly when it 687 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: when it comes to the lineup. They're they're looking for 688 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: guys kind of like what we're talking about don't strike 689 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: out a lot, put the ball in play. They they 690 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: I think that they feel like, especially with this ballpark, 691 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: and it makes sense. Power is not the thing that 692 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: they are necessarily emphasizing right now. They I think they 693 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: want contact hitters and that's what they're got, that's what 694 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: they're drafting. They're drafting guys who don't necessarily profile as 695 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: big home run hitters. They took a lot of guys 696 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: with high averages, decent walks, good on base percentage. I 697 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: think in that ballpark, that's probably a good way to go. 698 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: So I think that's we're going to see an awful 699 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: lot more of that. 700 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: Let's go out. Baseball's back, baby. 701 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: They're going to play some hardcore hard ball this year. 702 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: All Right, I know you had a long day. You're 703 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: in London right now. I'm going to be visiting you 704 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: in London. 705 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to be your roommate for a week or 706 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: so here coming. 707 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: Up after Thanksgiving. 708 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm super excited for that podcast. 709 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 4: That's how close Susan and I are. 710 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm traveling to London and staying with her in a 711 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and she's going to show me around. 712 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 4: We're super excited about that. 713 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: Subscribe to splash Hit Territory on YouTube wherever we get 714 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: your podcasts. We are part of the foul Territory network. 715 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: We will see you guys next week. Susan, thanks so 716 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: much for joining me. It's so much easier when you're here. 717 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: I know you're only going to be here on certain 718 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: shows here and there, but the more the merrier, Man, 719 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on today. 720 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: Awesome. Thanks FP. We will or at least FP. We'll 721 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: see you guys next week. 722 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: Swing heart in case you hit it on splash It