1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:16,868 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,348 --> 00:00:24,228 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:24,668 --> 00:00:26,628 Speaker 3: That's right, this is Good Morning Football. We are brought 5 00:00:26,668 --> 00:00:28,828 Speaker 3: to you by Old Trapper Beef Jerkey live in LA 6 00:00:28,948 --> 00:00:31,828 Speaker 3: and New York City every day, but today is Wednesday, 7 00:00:31,868 --> 00:00:34,428 Speaker 3: December eighteenth. This is Okbar Badge be A Melli, Peter Shaker, 8 00:00:34,468 --> 00:00:38,588 Speaker 3: Kyle Brandt, Jamie Earl. There's a really heavy topic in 9 00:00:38,628 --> 00:00:40,948 Speaker 3: Atlanta that we have to get to. This is one 10 00:00:40,948 --> 00:00:44,068 Speaker 3: that we have discussed at the quarterback position. And now 11 00:00:44,068 --> 00:00:46,788 Speaker 3: there's a change and there's coach first, your coach. There's 12 00:00:46,828 --> 00:00:49,308 Speaker 3: a lot there. So let's start with the news and 13 00:00:49,308 --> 00:00:50,788 Speaker 3: then we're going to peel back the onion on the 14 00:00:50,828 --> 00:00:53,748 Speaker 3: quarterback room with the Falcons. Ian Rappoport get in here. 15 00:00:53,948 --> 00:00:58,268 Speaker 3: Good morning to you once again. Let's talk quarterbacks, injuries, changes, 16 00:00:58,348 --> 00:00:58,868 Speaker 3: what have you? 17 00:00:58,868 --> 00:01:01,188 Speaker 4: Where you take us well, Before you guys get to 18 00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:04,348 Speaker 4: the Atlanta situation, which is just a seismic shift for 19 00:01:04,468 --> 00:01:07,188 Speaker 4: the Falcons, we'll get to one quick but very important one. 20 00:01:07,228 --> 00:01:10,708 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes doing with a high ankle sprain, whose status 21 00:01:10,748 --> 00:01:13,788 Speaker 4: I would say is in question for Saturday's game for 22 00:01:13,868 --> 00:01:15,908 Speaker 4: the kandasit in chiefs. The number one seed is on 23 00:01:15,948 --> 00:01:19,708 Speaker 4: the line, they could lock it up potentially. Patrick Mahomes 24 00:01:19,788 --> 00:01:23,148 Speaker 4: took a positive step yesterday toward potentially play. He was 25 00:01:23,148 --> 00:01:25,508 Speaker 4: a full participant in practice. The fact that Mahomes can 26 00:01:25,548 --> 00:01:27,748 Speaker 4: come out to be a full participant in practice a 27 00:01:27,828 --> 00:01:30,428 Speaker 4: couple of days after a getting high ankle sprain speaks 28 00:01:30,428 --> 00:01:33,948 Speaker 4: to how just crazy he is, how crazy his body is. 29 00:01:34,028 --> 00:01:36,788 Speaker 4: Gumby is the joke that people say referring to his 30 00:01:36,868 --> 00:01:40,548 Speaker 4: loose limbed nature. Anyway, it's all good for him. Full 31 00:01:40,588 --> 00:01:42,748 Speaker 4: participant yesterday. We'll see if he's able to do that 32 00:01:42,788 --> 00:01:46,388 Speaker 4: again today. And now the Atlanta Falcons situation, and you're right, 33 00:01:46,468 --> 00:01:50,348 Speaker 4: it is a dramatic one for the Atlanta Falcons Kirk Cousins, 34 00:01:50,668 --> 00:01:53,228 Speaker 4: where they paid sixty two million dollars this year on 35 00:01:53,348 --> 00:01:55,268 Speaker 4: the hook for twenty seven and a half million dollars 36 00:01:55,308 --> 00:01:55,868 Speaker 4: next year. 37 00:01:56,148 --> 00:01:57,148 Speaker 5: A quarterback they. 38 00:01:57,028 --> 00:01:59,148 Speaker 4: Thought was going to take them deep into the playoffs, 39 00:01:59,188 --> 00:02:00,948 Speaker 4: one who's going to be their starting quarterback at least 40 00:02:00,988 --> 00:02:03,028 Speaker 4: for two years, has been benched. 41 00:02:03,348 --> 00:02:04,428 Speaker 5: Michael Pennick's chew. 42 00:02:04,468 --> 00:02:07,068 Speaker 4: Near the first round draft pick, one of the most 43 00:02:07,148 --> 00:02:10,468 Speaker 4: highly debated first round draft picks I can remember, has 44 00:02:10,508 --> 00:02:11,948 Speaker 4: been named the starting quarterback. 45 00:02:12,148 --> 00:02:12,908 Speaker 5: This has been coming. 46 00:02:12,948 --> 00:02:14,588 Speaker 4: The fact that the last month and a half, kirk 47 00:02:14,628 --> 00:02:17,868 Speaker 4: Cousins play, his turnovers, his inability to move the ball, 48 00:02:18,068 --> 00:02:20,468 Speaker 4: his inability to push the ball downfield, to really just 49 00:02:20,508 --> 00:02:25,108 Speaker 4: be a functional quarterback, it all made this situation impossible 50 00:02:25,108 --> 00:02:27,828 Speaker 4: to ignore. This is not what the Falcons wanted to do. 51 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:30,388 Speaker 4: It wanted Pennix to be their quarterback of the future, 52 00:02:30,588 --> 00:02:34,588 Speaker 4: not the present. Reality is Michael Pennix is now the 53 00:02:34,668 --> 00:02:37,548 Speaker 4: starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons. I have not talked 54 00:02:37,588 --> 00:02:39,908 Speaker 4: to one person at all who believes this is. 55 00:02:40,628 --> 00:02:45,068 Speaker 5: Too early or a mistake. It is time in Atlanta. Wow. 56 00:02:45,348 --> 00:02:47,628 Speaker 3: There is a lot to be said about kirk Cousins, 57 00:02:47,668 --> 00:02:50,868 Speaker 3: about Penix, and where you take this next conversation is 58 00:02:50,948 --> 00:02:52,388 Speaker 3: up to you. Rap She thank you so much. We'll 59 00:02:52,388 --> 00:02:54,308 Speaker 3: talk to you in a little bit if anything changes. 60 00:02:54,708 --> 00:02:55,068 Speaker 5: All right. 61 00:02:56,988 --> 00:03:00,028 Speaker 3: As we look at this topic today, it's the fact 62 00:03:00,068 --> 00:03:03,228 Speaker 3: that kirk Cousins was signed to this massive deal as 63 00:03:03,228 --> 00:03:07,188 Speaker 3: a free agent. Then Michael Pennix Junior was drafted. That 64 00:03:07,348 --> 00:03:10,388 Speaker 3: was a conversation in and of itself. You assume Penick 65 00:03:10,468 --> 00:03:12,988 Speaker 3: Junior then was gonna wait, wait, wait, wait, This is 66 00:03:13,028 --> 00:03:15,428 Speaker 3: the Packers line of thinking. This is how it could 67 00:03:15,428 --> 00:03:18,268 Speaker 3: go with rookie quarterbacks, but no, were we go Michael Pennock, 68 00:03:18,348 --> 00:03:22,268 Speaker 3: Junior QB one in Atlanta, Peter, where does this come 69 00:03:22,308 --> 00:03:25,108 Speaker 3: from with the Falcons? Is it too little too late 70 00:03:25,348 --> 00:03:27,988 Speaker 3: or is it just time to see what this rookie 71 00:03:28,028 --> 00:03:29,068 Speaker 3: quarterback has to offer. 72 00:03:29,388 --> 00:03:31,668 Speaker 6: It might be too little too late. It's definitely time. 73 00:03:31,828 --> 00:03:34,468 Speaker 6: Like that Goose is cooked. Two weeks ago. I reported 74 00:03:34,508 --> 00:03:38,228 Speaker 6: on Fox NFL Kickoff two weeks ago with shock that 75 00:03:38,508 --> 00:03:41,068 Speaker 6: despite not throwing a touchdown in three weeks or having 76 00:03:41,108 --> 00:03:43,708 Speaker 6: all these interceptions, that Kirk Cousins still was getting number 77 00:03:43,708 --> 00:03:45,388 Speaker 6: one reps and Michael Pennox wasn't being used. 78 00:03:45,388 --> 00:03:46,228 Speaker 5: That was two weeks ago. 79 00:03:46,388 --> 00:03:48,908 Speaker 6: Since then, they lost another bad game, and then they 80 00:03:49,188 --> 00:03:51,828 Speaker 6: just got by a terrible Raiders team in a terrible 81 00:03:51,828 --> 00:03:55,508 Speaker 6: game on Monday night where Cousins couldn't move. So you're 82 00:03:55,548 --> 00:03:57,988 Speaker 6: looking at Kirk Cousins, and again this is like that 83 00:03:58,068 --> 00:03:58,788 Speaker 6: you have to say this. 84 00:03:59,708 --> 00:04:02,948 Speaker 5: We like Kirk Cousins. We all like Kirk Cousins. They 85 00:04:03,028 --> 00:04:03,908 Speaker 5: love Kirk Cousins. 86 00:04:03,948 --> 00:04:06,948 Speaker 6: You saw the Vikings players and how they responded to 87 00:04:07,108 --> 00:04:09,948 Speaker 6: seeing Kirk Cousins two weeks ago they love Kirk Cousins. 88 00:04:10,388 --> 00:04:12,508 Speaker 6: He's not able to play quarterback at the moment. 89 00:04:12,588 --> 00:04:13,828 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's age. 90 00:04:13,868 --> 00:04:16,588 Speaker 6: I think it's coming off the Achilles not everyone's a 91 00:04:16,628 --> 00:04:17,868 Speaker 6: miracle man and can get back. 92 00:04:17,948 --> 00:04:18,988 Speaker 5: So what do we do now? 93 00:04:19,068 --> 00:04:21,628 Speaker 6: Well, we could still salvage the season. There's three games 94 00:04:21,668 --> 00:04:24,148 Speaker 6: less you put Michael Pennixon. He hasn't had first team 95 00:04:24,148 --> 00:04:26,748 Speaker 6: reps all year. He hasn't seen the field very often, 96 00:04:26,788 --> 00:04:29,788 Speaker 6: only in blowouts, so he hasn't even got in on spot. Dude, 97 00:04:29,828 --> 00:04:32,188 Speaker 6: you're putting a lot of pressure on him to go 98 00:04:32,228 --> 00:04:34,748 Speaker 6: and save the day, especially because they're behind Tampa in 99 00:04:34,788 --> 00:04:37,108 Speaker 6: the standings. Long and short of it is Kirk cousins 100 00:04:37,188 --> 00:04:40,228 Speaker 6: time with Atlanta is likely done if he gets injured. 101 00:04:40,268 --> 00:04:41,988 Speaker 6: Now they're on the hook for an extra you know, 102 00:04:42,068 --> 00:04:44,228 Speaker 6: so on million dollars. They don't want to see him 103 00:04:44,228 --> 00:04:46,468 Speaker 6: on the field because of all the guarantees, and you 104 00:04:46,508 --> 00:04:48,988 Speaker 6: can't get him because of the injury stuff. He likely 105 00:04:49,028 --> 00:04:52,468 Speaker 6: will not be on the Falcons after March because of 106 00:04:52,588 --> 00:04:55,828 Speaker 6: what the salary cap stenuates. He could be traded, but 107 00:04:55,828 --> 00:04:57,748 Speaker 6: he's got no trade clause, so it'd have to go 108 00:04:57,788 --> 00:04:58,828 Speaker 6: to a place he wants to go. 109 00:04:58,868 --> 00:05:01,188 Speaker 5: To can't imagine a great team is looking to trade 110 00:05:01,188 --> 00:05:01,628 Speaker 5: for Kirk. 111 00:05:01,508 --> 00:05:03,348 Speaker 6: Cousins at the moment, which puts you in this thing 112 00:05:03,348 --> 00:05:04,628 Speaker 6: where you're probably gonna get yuh. 113 00:05:04,948 --> 00:05:05,868 Speaker 5: Which means that the. 114 00:05:05,828 --> 00:05:10,948 Speaker 6: Falcons will have paid ninety million dollars to Kirk Cousins 115 00:05:10,988 --> 00:05:15,348 Speaker 6: for fourteen weeks of NFL action, and fourteen weeks that 116 00:05:15,428 --> 00:05:18,068 Speaker 6: does not even have them in the playoff position right now. 117 00:05:18,308 --> 00:05:22,708 Speaker 6: One of the strangest situations we've seen with a veteran quarterback. 118 00:05:22,948 --> 00:05:26,388 Speaker 6: But they're pulling the plug, and as financially committed as 119 00:05:26,428 --> 00:05:28,788 Speaker 6: they are, they might have been too financially committed because 120 00:05:28,788 --> 00:05:30,988 Speaker 6: I think the last two weeks everyone watching at home 121 00:05:31,068 --> 00:05:33,228 Speaker 6: and everyone around the league knew that Goose was cooked. 122 00:05:33,268 --> 00:05:34,868 Speaker 6: It was probably time to go to penixtn before the 123 00:05:34,908 --> 00:05:35,828 Speaker 6: season's almost lost. 124 00:05:35,908 --> 00:05:39,148 Speaker 5: Wow, that's a lot of damn money. Is a lot. 125 00:05:39,268 --> 00:05:41,188 Speaker 7: I mean, just you know, you hear, just to hear 126 00:05:41,228 --> 00:05:43,988 Speaker 7: you say it that way, just you can fill the magnitude. 127 00:05:44,068 --> 00:05:45,788 Speaker 7: I don't think it's too little, too late, but I 128 00:05:45,828 --> 00:05:48,668 Speaker 7: definitely think it's late. They had a perfect opportunity, and 129 00:05:48,708 --> 00:05:51,188 Speaker 7: I was a big proponent of making sure, hey keep 130 00:05:51,268 --> 00:05:53,428 Speaker 7: Kirk Cousins is he's going, he's going to turn this 131 00:05:53,508 --> 00:05:56,228 Speaker 7: thing around at some point. This is going to get 132 00:05:56,268 --> 00:05:58,068 Speaker 7: better for him because he's a veteran, and I was 133 00:05:58,148 --> 00:06:00,748 Speaker 7: leaning heavy in on that. Watching the Raiders game, I 134 00:06:00,828 --> 00:06:03,028 Speaker 7: was like, Nah, this ain't it. Even with the win, 135 00:06:03,348 --> 00:06:07,028 Speaker 7: it was like this. They weren't playing good football. They 136 00:06:07,148 --> 00:06:09,828 Speaker 7: ran the ball more than twice as many times as 137 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:12,388 Speaker 7: they threw the ball. That told me a lot, like 138 00:06:12,468 --> 00:06:14,028 Speaker 7: they don't have a lot of faith in And this 139 00:06:14,108 --> 00:06:16,388 Speaker 7: is against a two and twelve at the time, two 140 00:06:16,468 --> 00:06:19,548 Speaker 7: and eleven teams Raiders team, and so this sold me 141 00:06:19,628 --> 00:06:20,828 Speaker 7: that the writing was on the wall. 142 00:06:20,908 --> 00:06:21,908 Speaker 5: This was the next move. 143 00:06:22,108 --> 00:06:25,348 Speaker 7: They had a great opportunity in this situation. You have 144 00:06:25,668 --> 00:06:28,988 Speaker 7: the Raiders, you have the Giants, both two win teams 145 00:06:29,148 --> 00:06:31,628 Speaker 7: where you get. You could have given Michael Pennick the 146 00:06:31,668 --> 00:06:34,508 Speaker 7: opportunity to kind of get warmed up, get his confidence 147 00:06:34,588 --> 00:06:38,108 Speaker 7: going into then playing against the Washington Commanders. That would 148 00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:39,868 Speaker 7: have given him the opportunity because that's gonna be his 149 00:06:39,948 --> 00:06:42,908 Speaker 7: real test when he plays against the Commanders. They're still 150 00:06:42,948 --> 00:06:45,028 Speaker 7: in this, they're still within it, they're not out, so 151 00:06:45,068 --> 00:06:47,468 Speaker 7: they have a great opportunity. And then you finished with 152 00:06:47,508 --> 00:06:50,508 Speaker 7: the Carolina Panthers, so you had those two games to 153 00:06:50,628 --> 00:06:53,468 Speaker 7: kind of get situated, settle. I think Michael Pennick's even 154 00:06:53,508 --> 00:06:56,388 Speaker 7: coming out not having first rep starts, he easily could 155 00:06:56,388 --> 00:06:58,348 Speaker 7: have gone in and beat the Raiders, come in and 156 00:06:58,388 --> 00:07:00,228 Speaker 7: then turn around and then beat the New York Giants. 157 00:07:00,268 --> 00:07:02,428 Speaker 7: The Giants, they're just not playing good football. I think 158 00:07:02,428 --> 00:07:05,388 Speaker 7: we all know that. But I look at that and say, 159 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:08,148 Speaker 7: ninety million dollars, that's a lot of money to experiment 160 00:07:08,228 --> 00:07:10,348 Speaker 7: for Kirk Cousins and then just to pull it. But 161 00:07:10,748 --> 00:07:13,068 Speaker 7: you know, at this point, you know, even if they 162 00:07:13,068 --> 00:07:15,308 Speaker 7: make it to the playoffs, they're not going far. I 163 00:07:15,308 --> 00:07:17,268 Speaker 7: think we all know that they're not going far. So 164 00:07:17,348 --> 00:07:19,028 Speaker 7: it's like you might as well see what you have 165 00:07:19,268 --> 00:07:20,108 Speaker 7: in Michael Pennis. 166 00:07:20,388 --> 00:07:22,148 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, who knows what they're gonna make, not 167 00:07:22,268 --> 00:07:24,588 Speaker 8: make what if the Cousins will with Pennex. I'm excited 168 00:07:24,588 --> 00:07:26,308 Speaker 8: to see Penix, think everybody is. And we'll talk a 169 00:07:26,308 --> 00:07:28,148 Speaker 8: lot of Pennocks moving forward. I want to talk some 170 00:07:28,188 --> 00:07:30,548 Speaker 8: Cousins first, because I think it's I think it's easy 171 00:07:30,628 --> 00:07:32,268 Speaker 8: to say, oh, they should have moved, they should have 172 00:07:32,268 --> 00:07:33,428 Speaker 8: pulled them out after two losses. 173 00:07:33,428 --> 00:07:34,388 Speaker 5: Do it during the bye week. 174 00:07:34,708 --> 00:07:36,908 Speaker 8: You have to remember how much equity Cousins has not 175 00:07:36,988 --> 00:07:39,028 Speaker 8: with the Falcons in the league. This is a veteran 176 00:07:39,068 --> 00:07:41,668 Speaker 8: who's put up a lot of statistical production. And never 177 00:07:41,708 --> 00:07:43,788 Speaker 8: mind in the past. I want to take you back 178 00:07:43,828 --> 00:07:48,628 Speaker 8: to Week nine of this season. It's Falcons Cowboys, and 179 00:07:48,708 --> 00:07:50,428 Speaker 8: Cousins was excellent in this game. 180 00:07:50,508 --> 00:07:51,188 Speaker 5: This is Week nine. 181 00:07:51,228 --> 00:07:53,828 Speaker 8: They beat the Cowboys and the real Cowboys, the Dak Cowboys, 182 00:07:53,948 --> 00:07:56,388 Speaker 8: to get to six and three. He was actually through 183 00:07:56,428 --> 00:07:59,628 Speaker 8: three touchdowns. He had no interceptions. After the game, every 184 00:07:59,668 --> 00:08:02,948 Speaker 8: single Falcon is raving about Cousins. Wide receiver Ray Ray 185 00:08:03,028 --> 00:08:06,348 Speaker 8: Mclouds says, knowledge, poise, he never lets us get complacent. 186 00:08:06,468 --> 00:08:08,988 Speaker 8: It's such a blessing to have him out there. After 187 00:08:09,028 --> 00:08:11,828 Speaker 8: this game, this is week nine of this year, Kirk 188 00:08:11,868 --> 00:08:14,108 Speaker 8: Cousins says, we just got to do it week to 189 00:08:14,188 --> 00:08:17,068 Speaker 8: week and see where we are in February. In February, 190 00:08:17,308 --> 00:08:20,068 Speaker 8: he was talking about the Super Bowl and nobody was 191 00:08:20,108 --> 00:08:23,908 Speaker 8: thinking it was hilarious. It was all cooking, and then 192 00:08:23,948 --> 00:08:25,188 Speaker 8: something completely fell apart. 193 00:08:25,388 --> 00:08:26,508 Speaker 5: I don't know what happened. 194 00:08:26,508 --> 00:08:29,228 Speaker 8: I have suspicions about his health, whether it be the Achilles, 195 00:08:29,268 --> 00:08:31,628 Speaker 8: whether it be hits that he took, because after that 196 00:08:31,748 --> 00:08:33,988 Speaker 8: apex of Week nine, six and three team they're going 197 00:08:34,028 --> 00:08:35,668 Speaker 8: to cruise to the NFC South title. 198 00:08:35,748 --> 00:08:36,948 Speaker 5: Tampa has nothing going on. 199 00:08:37,268 --> 00:08:40,108 Speaker 8: It was a month of losing, including some of, if 200 00:08:40,108 --> 00:08:42,388 Speaker 8: not the worst football Kirk Cousins has ever played in 201 00:08:42,388 --> 00:08:44,668 Speaker 8: his career. Let's not pretend that we don't know how 202 00:08:44,708 --> 00:08:47,508 Speaker 8: this guy plays, what he's into, what he puts. Sub Statistically, 203 00:08:47,628 --> 00:08:51,308 Speaker 8: we got a decade of Kirk Cousins. Something either really 204 00:08:51,348 --> 00:08:53,508 Speaker 8: really hindered him physically where he couldn't move, or he 205 00:08:53,628 --> 00:08:57,588 Speaker 8: wasn't mobile at all anymore, something psychological happened. This kind 206 00:08:57,628 --> 00:09:01,108 Speaker 8: of quarterback doesn't just completely fall off the table. 207 00:09:01,548 --> 00:09:04,308 Speaker 5: He did. It's the right move. I can't sit here 208 00:09:04,428 --> 00:09:04,988 Speaker 5: and say. 209 00:09:04,988 --> 00:09:07,188 Speaker 8: How do you not bench Kirk Cousins after two weeks 210 00:09:07,188 --> 00:09:09,228 Speaker 8: and bad losses? Because he's Kirk Cousins. You know what 211 00:09:09,268 --> 00:09:10,828 Speaker 8: you're getting is gonna pull out of it. You pay 212 00:09:10,908 --> 00:09:13,708 Speaker 8: a ninety million dollars. I can't scream at the Falcons 213 00:09:13,708 --> 00:09:15,188 Speaker 8: to put in a rookie one Cousins. 214 00:09:15,348 --> 00:09:17,108 Speaker 5: This is a guy we knew, and it is a 215 00:09:17,148 --> 00:09:18,988 Speaker 5: great mystery, and I think we need a. 216 00:09:18,988 --> 00:09:21,108 Speaker 8: Little more clarity moving forward of how the hell he 217 00:09:21,148 --> 00:09:24,108 Speaker 8: went from so good to absolutely terrible overnight. 218 00:09:24,188 --> 00:09:26,348 Speaker 6: He looked, he looked a little bit like the last 219 00:09:26,388 --> 00:09:27,948 Speaker 6: few weeks, like Matt Ryan did at the end of 220 00:09:27,948 --> 00:09:29,668 Speaker 6: that Colts experiment work. 221 00:09:29,948 --> 00:09:32,348 Speaker 5: I know it's there, like I know you can play. 222 00:09:32,668 --> 00:09:36,908 Speaker 6: I know where like Monday night, the pocket couldn't even 223 00:09:37,108 --> 00:09:39,308 Speaker 6: do anything because he can't. He took three steps back 224 00:09:39,308 --> 00:09:40,708 Speaker 6: and it was just like he was done. And it's 225 00:09:40,748 --> 00:09:43,508 Speaker 6: not like the Raiders of the seventy six Steelers. So 226 00:09:43,588 --> 00:09:46,188 Speaker 6: I was screaming at the TV and I love Kirk 227 00:09:46,188 --> 00:09:49,108 Speaker 6: Cousins put in Pennix on Monday night, and it just 228 00:09:49,188 --> 00:09:50,428 Speaker 6: it just wasn't happening. 229 00:09:50,508 --> 00:09:52,228 Speaker 7: You know what, Sometimes too, that happens. I don't know 230 00:09:52,268 --> 00:09:55,068 Speaker 7: if this is the case for Kirk Cousins. Sometimes the 231 00:09:55,068 --> 00:09:58,788 Speaker 7: body betrays you before the mind betrays you, and so 232 00:09:58,948 --> 00:10:01,868 Speaker 7: maybe in his mind it's there because obviously, you know, 233 00:10:01,908 --> 00:10:05,348 Speaker 7: you think about all the interceptions he's leading and interceptions, 234 00:10:05,588 --> 00:10:07,548 Speaker 7: and you know, throwing the ball is not just arm. 235 00:10:07,668 --> 00:10:10,108 Speaker 7: It's coming from the hip and generating be able to throw, 236 00:10:10,388 --> 00:10:12,588 Speaker 7: and maybe too, like you know, the timing and the 237 00:10:12,628 --> 00:10:15,188 Speaker 7: speed and the connection just isn't there. I mean, some 238 00:10:15,228 --> 00:10:18,068 Speaker 7: of them were really bad throws and bad interceptions. By 239 00:10:18,108 --> 00:10:21,068 Speaker 7: the time I started to think, has age just snuck 240 00:10:21,148 --> 00:10:22,868 Speaker 7: up on him just like out of nowhere, and he's like, Yo, 241 00:10:22,908 --> 00:10:24,068 Speaker 7: I'm trying to turn this thing around. 242 00:10:24,108 --> 00:10:24,628 Speaker 5: He just can't. 243 00:10:24,708 --> 00:10:27,508 Speaker 3: Well, that speaks to the equity that Kyle just referenced 244 00:10:27,508 --> 00:10:30,548 Speaker 3: with Kirk Cousins. This also becomes a first year head 245 00:10:30,588 --> 00:10:34,348 Speaker 3: coach you know question, and the fact that Raheem Morris 246 00:10:34,388 --> 00:10:37,788 Speaker 3: did his best to stand by Kirk Cousins and the decision, 247 00:10:37,908 --> 00:10:41,508 Speaker 3: the business decision that the Falcons made this offseason, Peter 248 00:10:41,868 --> 00:10:46,108 Speaker 3: a little part of my brain injury aside, psychological whatever 249 00:10:46,148 --> 00:10:49,788 Speaker 3: a Cyberg cor Cousins says, it's too early for Michael 250 00:10:49,788 --> 00:10:52,788 Speaker 3: Pennocks junior. Why wouldn't if the season is a wash, 251 00:10:52,868 --> 00:10:54,548 Speaker 3: if the Falcons aren't going to come back from this, 252 00:10:55,148 --> 00:10:58,228 Speaker 3: why would you put the rookie in in a situation 253 00:10:58,388 --> 00:11:01,828 Speaker 3: that feels like a challenge. Why if again, if he's 254 00:11:01,868 --> 00:11:03,788 Speaker 3: not injured, if this is not like a body thing 255 00:11:03,828 --> 00:11:07,068 Speaker 3: with Kirk Cousins, why would you put the rookie quarterback 256 00:11:07,108 --> 00:11:09,388 Speaker 3: into a situation like this now and not just give 257 00:11:09,428 --> 00:11:11,828 Speaker 3: him nine more months of preparation for the NFL. 258 00:11:11,708 --> 00:11:14,268 Speaker 6: Fair It's a great comment, and I look at Jared 259 00:11:14,308 --> 00:11:16,788 Speaker 6: Goff's rookie year that Kyle referenced earlier in the show, 260 00:11:16,828 --> 00:11:19,748 Speaker 6: he didn't start until like week fifteen, Week fourteen, they 261 00:11:19,748 --> 00:11:21,828 Speaker 6: got him in there after case Keenum like carried it 262 00:11:21,868 --> 00:11:23,308 Speaker 6: for a while and then you get a little taste, 263 00:11:23,348 --> 00:11:25,708 Speaker 6: and then you could start with that sophomore season. We've 264 00:11:25,708 --> 00:11:28,548 Speaker 6: seen that a lot where a rookie Steve McNair, Michael Vick, 265 00:11:28,588 --> 00:11:29,668 Speaker 6: they don't start right away. 266 00:11:29,788 --> 00:11:31,988 Speaker 5: They get the reins handed to them. 267 00:11:32,228 --> 00:11:34,988 Speaker 6: This one is interesting because they still are in playoff contention, 268 00:11:35,548 --> 00:11:38,348 Speaker 6: and they still could, barring you a book's collapse, they 269 00:11:38,388 --> 00:11:41,548 Speaker 6: could still end up in the playoffs. So they're saying, hey, 270 00:11:41,548 --> 00:11:43,148 Speaker 6: save the season, and if you don't save the season, 271 00:11:43,188 --> 00:11:45,548 Speaker 6: get a taste of it. Now. We know their offensive 272 00:11:45,548 --> 00:11:48,188 Speaker 6: coordinators not going nowhere, we know their quarterbacks coach isn't 273 00:11:48,228 --> 00:11:51,788 Speaker 6: going anywhere. Like this is a good little taste. Even 274 00:11:51,828 --> 00:11:55,148 Speaker 6: Mahomes got that last game of his rookie season against 275 00:11:55,148 --> 00:11:57,708 Speaker 6: Denver one week just to get a taste of the NFL. 276 00:11:57,988 --> 00:11:59,868 Speaker 6: I think it's good for Pennix, But Jamie, I hear you, 277 00:12:00,108 --> 00:12:02,428 Speaker 6: Why risk injury? Why throw them in there if this 278 00:12:02,468 --> 00:12:03,908 Speaker 6: thing is already a lost cause. 279 00:12:03,708 --> 00:12:05,908 Speaker 5: Because they can't score and they can't beat the Raiders. 280 00:12:05,948 --> 00:12:07,588 Speaker 5: And you know what I respect about it. They're trying 281 00:12:07,588 --> 00:12:08,228 Speaker 5: to make the playoffs. 282 00:12:08,268 --> 00:12:11,108 Speaker 8: Yeah, you can't look at your fans and say this 283 00:12:11,228 --> 00:12:13,828 Speaker 8: bottom line for every company, of all thirty two teams, 284 00:12:14,148 --> 00:12:16,748 Speaker 8: we're doing everything we can to win. When you watch Cousins, 285 00:12:16,748 --> 00:12:18,548 Speaker 8: you have Pennix there. Do you know how badly they 286 00:12:18,548 --> 00:12:20,228 Speaker 8: did not want to do this. If it was up 287 00:12:20,308 --> 00:12:23,148 Speaker 8: to the Falcons, Pennix wouldn't be playing until twenty twenty six. 288 00:12:23,268 --> 00:12:24,868 Speaker 5: They said that at the draft four or five, like 289 00:12:25,108 --> 00:12:25,988 Speaker 5: twenty twenty. 290 00:12:25,748 --> 00:12:28,988 Speaker 8: Seven, Like this year, No way, we're gonna ride Kirk 291 00:12:29,068 --> 00:12:31,828 Speaker 8: Cousins and we're gonna unleash Penix like Jordan Love on 292 00:12:31,868 --> 00:12:32,228 Speaker 8: the Packers. 293 00:12:32,268 --> 00:12:33,428 Speaker 5: We're gonna do their model if the. 294 00:12:33,428 --> 00:12:35,668 Speaker 8: Play They did not want to do this, and I'm 295 00:12:35,708 --> 00:12:38,468 Speaker 8: glad and I respect that they did because they're not saying, well, 296 00:12:38,508 --> 00:12:41,708 Speaker 8: there's so much money and Cousins, screw it, we gotta win. 297 00:12:41,788 --> 00:12:43,148 Speaker 8: We owe it to our fans to put the best 298 00:12:43,188 --> 00:12:44,908 Speaker 8: player out there. And right now Kirk Cousins is in it. 299 00:12:45,148 --> 00:12:46,148 Speaker 8: You don't see it much, but I. 300 00:12:46,068 --> 00:12:50,508 Speaker 6: Really damning and redeeming that they're doing, like because it's 301 00:12:50,588 --> 00:12:53,028 Speaker 6: damning because of all the money they're giving Cousins, but 302 00:12:53,108 --> 00:12:55,468 Speaker 6: then they drafted Pennis in the top ten and got 303 00:12:55,548 --> 00:12:58,388 Speaker 6: lambasted for it like they were idiots. But now they 304 00:12:58,388 --> 00:13:00,748 Speaker 6: have a first round quarterback, so it's it's one of 305 00:13:00,748 --> 00:13:02,388 Speaker 6: the rare deals. It was such a shocking pick at 306 00:13:02,428 --> 00:13:04,948 Speaker 6: the time because of the money committed to Cousin, but 307 00:13:04,988 --> 00:13:06,788 Speaker 6: then here you go, you still have the quarterback. Now 308 00:13:06,788 --> 00:13:09,228 Speaker 6: you're not going to Desmond Ritter or Heineke. You're going 309 00:13:09,748 --> 00:13:12,148 Speaker 6: to a first round quarterback who could be really good 310 00:13:12,148 --> 00:13:15,628 Speaker 6: in this league. It's like smart pick, but weird. There's 311 00:13:15,628 --> 00:13:16,748 Speaker 6: a fascinating situation. 312 00:13:17,028 --> 00:13:19,388 Speaker 3: And listen if you I'm not sure what the NFL 313 00:13:19,428 --> 00:13:21,628 Speaker 3: product is going to look like, but anyone who knew 314 00:13:21,628 --> 00:13:24,028 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix junior coming out of college, whatever team he 315 00:13:24,108 --> 00:13:26,588 Speaker 3: played for, this guy is the ultimate. He's like a 316 00:13:26,668 --> 00:13:29,468 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins personality clone, like he's a leader of men. 317 00:13:29,628 --> 00:13:32,668 Speaker 3: He's great in the locker room, he is really smart. 318 00:13:32,468 --> 00:13:34,908 Speaker 3: He is what you want your quarterback in the face 319 00:13:34,948 --> 00:13:37,068 Speaker 3: of your organization to be. So if all of that 320 00:13:37,108 --> 00:13:39,868 Speaker 3: bubbles at the surface and he can play quarterback, then 321 00:13:39,868 --> 00:13:41,868 Speaker 3: the Falcons made a good pick. Let's talk about some 322 00:13:41,908 --> 00:13:45,108 Speaker 3: guys that have let's say, knock on this direction this season, 323 00:13:45,548 --> 00:13:49,628 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. This is the statistical full screen 324 00:13:49,748 --> 00:13:53,508 Speaker 3: everybody's looking at right now because you say one thing, 325 00:13:53,668 --> 00:13:56,748 Speaker 3: a whisper towards Josh Allen winning his first MVP, and 326 00:13:56,748 --> 00:13:58,428 Speaker 3: everyone's but you, Lamar Jackson. 327 00:13:58,508 --> 00:13:59,948 Speaker 5: Stats are better. Okay, here we go. 328 00:14:00,468 --> 00:14:03,868 Speaker 3: Is there anything Lamar Jackson can do right now, guys 329 00:14:03,948 --> 00:14:08,548 Speaker 3: over the next three weeks to take the MVP back 330 00:14:08,708 --> 00:14:11,468 Speaker 3: from the narrative that Josh Allen has already won it? 331 00:14:14,068 --> 00:14:17,388 Speaker 6: Peter, I look at it as like the writers are 332 00:14:17,388 --> 00:14:20,748 Speaker 6: the voters, Jamie, And a lot of times these these 333 00:14:20,788 --> 00:14:23,708 Speaker 6: things come down to the primetime performances, and Lamar has that. 334 00:14:23,788 --> 00:14:25,348 Speaker 5: Like Lamar has that left, Josh does it. 335 00:14:25,628 --> 00:14:28,988 Speaker 6: Josh's remaining schedule is Patriots, Jets, Patriots. You won't see 336 00:14:29,068 --> 00:14:31,148 Speaker 6: Josh Allen on national TV for the rest of the season. 337 00:14:31,188 --> 00:14:33,108 Speaker 6: You might as well forget about him. He's already done 338 00:14:33,108 --> 00:14:35,828 Speaker 6: his thing. The hey is in the barn. Lamar Jackson, though, 339 00:14:36,028 --> 00:14:39,788 Speaker 6: has a Saturday standalone window this weekend against the Steelers, 340 00:14:40,148 --> 00:14:43,148 Speaker 6: has a Christmas Day game against the Texans, and then 341 00:14:43,268 --> 00:14:45,708 Speaker 6: of course ends it with the Browns. Which might be 342 00:14:45,868 --> 00:14:47,628 Speaker 6: for a division title if they can win and the 343 00:14:47,628 --> 00:14:51,828 Speaker 6: Steelers are battling with them, So Lamar has that and 344 00:14:51,868 --> 00:14:54,428 Speaker 6: the last time we saw Lamuri had five touchdown passes, 345 00:14:54,468 --> 00:14:57,108 Speaker 6: so the stats might be in Lamar's favor and the 346 00:14:57,188 --> 00:15:01,268 Speaker 6: prime time performances, like if Lamar comes out and throws 347 00:15:01,588 --> 00:15:04,148 Speaker 6: five touchdowns again in one of these next two games, 348 00:15:04,388 --> 00:15:06,908 Speaker 6: the Ravens are just rolling. There's gonna be an argument 349 00:15:06,948 --> 00:15:08,828 Speaker 6: to be made because they're gonna be the hottest team 350 00:15:08,868 --> 00:15:10,828 Speaker 6: in the league and during the playoffs, and he's gonna 351 00:15:10,828 --> 00:15:13,548 Speaker 6: have the hottest numbers. I just don't think it's enough 352 00:15:13,588 --> 00:15:16,668 Speaker 6: to overcome what Josh Allen has done this whole season, 353 00:15:16,668 --> 00:15:18,908 Speaker 6: where he's been superman in the last two weeks, especially 354 00:15:19,228 --> 00:15:20,028 Speaker 6: the one factor. 355 00:15:20,548 --> 00:15:22,468 Speaker 5: Lamar's team blew out josh as. 356 00:15:22,348 --> 00:15:24,028 Speaker 6: When they went head to head earlier this season, and 357 00:15:24,108 --> 00:15:25,708 Speaker 6: Lamar was the better quarterback in that game. 358 00:15:26,028 --> 00:15:29,148 Speaker 5: This was so hard. This is so hard for me. 359 00:15:29,428 --> 00:15:32,508 Speaker 7: I don't even know where to go with this because 360 00:15:32,548 --> 00:15:35,548 Speaker 7: when you look at the numbers, it screams Lamar Jackson 361 00:15:35,588 --> 00:15:37,388 Speaker 7: and then you look, okay, maybe you say you look 362 00:15:37,388 --> 00:15:40,148 Speaker 7: over in the win section, but then how they win. 363 00:15:40,108 --> 00:15:41,108 Speaker 5: And it's just you go through. 364 00:15:41,108 --> 00:15:43,188 Speaker 7: But when I just go through the eyeball test and 365 00:15:43,188 --> 00:15:45,628 Speaker 7: I go, you know what, Josh Allen, he's playing on 366 00:15:45,668 --> 00:15:48,788 Speaker 7: another level, like the dude is obviously playing MVP caliber. 367 00:15:49,028 --> 00:15:51,268 Speaker 7: But Lamar Jackson, though, I mean for him to get 368 00:15:51,308 --> 00:15:54,068 Speaker 7: back in to be the top dog or the favorite 369 00:15:54,068 --> 00:15:57,268 Speaker 7: to win it, maybe he's got to win out. And 370 00:15:57,308 --> 00:16:00,428 Speaker 7: there's a monumental collapse in the last three games for 371 00:16:00,508 --> 00:16:02,788 Speaker 7: the Bills, so maybe that gives him that hope. But 372 00:16:02,948 --> 00:16:06,668 Speaker 7: right now, I don't see I don't see Josh Allen 373 00:16:06,748 --> 00:16:08,828 Speaker 7: losing those last three games. I think he keeps that 374 00:16:08,988 --> 00:16:12,468 Speaker 7: edge even though his numbers are slightly below that of 375 00:16:12,588 --> 00:16:13,308 Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson. 376 00:16:15,028 --> 00:16:19,948 Speaker 8: You know, the MVP talking industry, it's so bloated and 377 00:16:20,108 --> 00:16:22,828 Speaker 8: so oversaturated. I don't even think it knows what it 378 00:16:22,868 --> 00:16:26,788 Speaker 8: is an I think it's become like power rankings. You 379 00:16:26,948 --> 00:16:29,068 Speaker 8: just do it and it always gets engagement and it's 380 00:16:29,148 --> 00:16:32,508 Speaker 8: kind of candy and fun. But philosophically, where are we 381 00:16:32,548 --> 00:16:36,068 Speaker 8: at what leads the MVP In this segment alone, I've 382 00:16:36,148 --> 00:16:38,428 Speaker 8: heard it all and I get it. You know where 383 00:16:38,948 --> 00:16:41,388 Speaker 8: Ochbar just said the eyeball test, I've heard that phrase. 384 00:16:41,508 --> 00:16:43,028 Speaker 5: I don't know what that means necessary. 385 00:16:43,068 --> 00:16:45,388 Speaker 8: I know it's a catchy phrase, but does that mean 386 00:16:45,428 --> 00:16:47,668 Speaker 8: if Lamar would get a lateral and score a touchdown, 387 00:16:47,708 --> 00:16:50,308 Speaker 8: then he would be the MVP because push pass, he 388 00:16:50,308 --> 00:16:52,548 Speaker 8: should need to do more of that. I've heard Prime 389 00:16:52,668 --> 00:16:54,588 Speaker 8: Time and Peter said that the Hayes in the barn 390 00:16:54,628 --> 00:16:56,908 Speaker 8: for Josh Allen. However, in those last three games for 391 00:16:56,988 --> 00:16:59,228 Speaker 8: Josh Allen, he might put up huge statistics. Then when 392 00:16:59,268 --> 00:17:01,628 Speaker 8: we put up the side by side, he has more touchdowns. 393 00:17:01,828 --> 00:17:04,708 Speaker 8: I don't even know what it is, and it's it 394 00:17:04,828 --> 00:17:06,828 Speaker 8: just starts to feel like a high school election at 395 00:17:06,828 --> 00:17:09,668 Speaker 8: this point, like a student council election. It's like who's 396 00:17:09,708 --> 00:17:12,468 Speaker 8: the cool guy who does the best skit, who gives 397 00:17:12,508 --> 00:17:16,228 Speaker 8: the funniest speech. Because if Lamar doesn't win it this year, 398 00:17:16,228 --> 00:17:17,788 Speaker 8: and everyone's gonna say, what the heck? Pull up the 399 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:19,948 Speaker 8: side by side stats. Do you want to look at 400 00:17:19,988 --> 00:17:22,748 Speaker 8: Lamar's stats from last year because they're not great for 401 00:17:22,828 --> 00:17:26,308 Speaker 8: an MVP they've had He's had much better year statistically, 402 00:17:26,628 --> 00:17:29,348 Speaker 8: and yet he won the MVP because Lamar was the 403 00:17:29,348 --> 00:17:32,188 Speaker 8: coolest kid last year and he had the coolest team 404 00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:35,348 Speaker 8: and they were front runners. And then there's the other part. Yes, 405 00:17:35,708 --> 00:17:37,948 Speaker 8: Lamar beat Josh Allen had to head, but that was 406 00:17:38,068 --> 00:17:40,948 Speaker 8: early in the season. It's like college football. Notre Dame 407 00:17:41,028 --> 00:17:43,348 Speaker 8: lose to Northern Illinois early in the season, and it 408 00:17:43,388 --> 00:17:46,468 Speaker 8: gets forgetting about. It's just up as down, down as up. 409 00:17:46,508 --> 00:17:48,948 Speaker 8: It's I don't even know what the discussion is anymore. 410 00:17:49,188 --> 00:17:51,228 Speaker 8: And if you say, well, when I turn on the TV, 411 00:17:51,588 --> 00:17:53,868 Speaker 8: I see Josh Allen. He is the best players, he's 412 00:17:53,908 --> 00:17:57,988 Speaker 8: the MVP, but Lamar's stats are better. There it's just 413 00:17:58,028 --> 00:18:00,468 Speaker 8: a snake eating its own tail. I honestly think it 414 00:18:00,588 --> 00:18:02,028 Speaker 8: used to be a fun, little honor at the end 415 00:18:02,028 --> 00:18:03,948 Speaker 8: of the year. Now it's a whole industry in and 416 00:18:04,028 --> 00:18:06,508 Speaker 8: of itself. Well, it starts like in week two, you 417 00:18:06,548 --> 00:18:10,068 Speaker 8: start hearing murmurs about the MVP. But I also feel 418 00:18:10,068 --> 00:18:13,628 Speaker 8: like now it's decided by like week thirteen. This should 419 00:18:13,628 --> 00:18:15,948 Speaker 8: come down the stretch with these two guys. You even 420 00:18:15,948 --> 00:18:19,748 Speaker 8: to hear commentators. They'll be like the big ones, Josh 421 00:18:19,788 --> 00:18:21,748 Speaker 8: Allen or Lamar will be playing and you hear them 422 00:18:21,748 --> 00:18:23,988 Speaker 8: so they'll say, you know, here he is likely MVP, 423 00:18:24,308 --> 00:18:25,268 Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson. 424 00:18:25,388 --> 00:18:27,268 Speaker 5: They just straight up say it on the call. 425 00:18:27,348 --> 00:18:29,868 Speaker 8: And this is like a week fifteen game when there's 426 00:18:29,908 --> 00:18:31,028 Speaker 8: a lot of football. 427 00:18:30,668 --> 00:18:31,428 Speaker 5: Left to be played. 428 00:18:31,628 --> 00:18:34,028 Speaker 8: So for me, Josh Allen, I think it is. But 429 00:18:34,188 --> 00:18:36,948 Speaker 8: I'm here for a Lamar Jackson case. I don't know 430 00:18:37,028 --> 00:18:38,108 Speaker 8: even what to do anymore. 431 00:18:38,148 --> 00:18:39,588 Speaker 5: At this point. I can't be alone. 432 00:18:39,308 --> 00:18:42,308 Speaker 6: Those over the next two weeks, having Tom Brady and 433 00:18:42,548 --> 00:18:44,988 Speaker 6: Jamie who's doing the game Ravens Texans who will be 434 00:18:45,028 --> 00:18:45,788 Speaker 6: the voice Olsen? 435 00:18:46,068 --> 00:18:49,388 Speaker 3: I would have, oh yeah, Greg Olsen and know what 436 00:18:49,428 --> 00:18:49,588 Speaker 3: you do? 437 00:18:49,788 --> 00:18:53,508 Speaker 6: So does having Brady and Olson ooing and eyeing over 438 00:18:53,588 --> 00:18:55,988 Speaker 6: Lamar in front of national audiences that are gonna have 439 00:18:56,108 --> 00:18:59,468 Speaker 6: thirty forty million people watching and standalone windows does that help? 440 00:18:59,508 --> 00:19:01,628 Speaker 6: I think it does. But Josh Allen just had that 441 00:19:01,668 --> 00:19:02,308 Speaker 6: the last two weeks. 442 00:19:02,348 --> 00:19:04,748 Speaker 7: You know, yeah, let me just I'll throw this and 443 00:19:04,788 --> 00:19:06,028 Speaker 7: I support everything you're saying. 444 00:19:06,108 --> 00:19:06,308 Speaker 5: Kyle. 445 00:19:06,588 --> 00:19:09,108 Speaker 7: I feel the same thing, and this is I'm throwing 446 00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:11,628 Speaker 7: something another name in there that I think we were 447 00:19:11,868 --> 00:19:14,868 Speaker 7: going on that week. I have to go what I'm 448 00:19:14,908 --> 00:19:18,348 Speaker 7: feeling on the inside. My eyeballs are telling me and 449 00:19:18,388 --> 00:19:19,988 Speaker 7: no one else wants to say it, and I'm gonna 450 00:19:19,988 --> 00:19:20,548 Speaker 7: go ahead and say it. 451 00:19:20,548 --> 00:19:22,628 Speaker 5: I don't care if I get hate mail or hate tweets. 452 00:19:23,148 --> 00:19:28,188 Speaker 7: Saquon Barkley, Like I just the exclusion of his performance 453 00:19:28,228 --> 00:19:30,348 Speaker 7: this year and how what he's been doing we just 454 00:19:30,428 --> 00:19:33,268 Speaker 7: kind of slowly elevated. We just kind of gave him 455 00:19:33,308 --> 00:19:34,948 Speaker 7: like a nice little fluff here you. 456 00:19:34,908 --> 00:19:35,348 Speaker 2: Go, here go. 457 00:19:35,428 --> 00:19:38,708 Speaker 7: Okay, Now it's a quarterback talk, like Saquon Barkley should 458 00:19:38,708 --> 00:19:42,548 Speaker 7: be highly considered for the MVP. His name should not 459 00:19:42,588 --> 00:19:45,348 Speaker 7: be left out. The dismissal of his name to me 460 00:19:45,468 --> 00:19:46,748 Speaker 7: is egregious. 461 00:19:46,788 --> 00:19:49,388 Speaker 5: The amount of they invented, sorry, JB. 462 00:19:49,988 --> 00:19:52,948 Speaker 6: They invented this NFL Offensive Player of the Year award, 463 00:19:52,988 --> 00:19:54,388 Speaker 6: and that's where Saquon will get it. 464 00:19:54,428 --> 00:19:55,188 Speaker 5: That's what it is. Now. 465 00:19:55,188 --> 00:19:58,948 Speaker 6: It's phasically quarterback in the best quarterbacks, the MVP, and 466 00:19:58,988 --> 00:20:00,628 Speaker 6: then the Offensive Player of the Air War, which is 467 00:20:00,628 --> 00:20:02,588 Speaker 6: a forgotten award that no one even knows who won 468 00:20:02,668 --> 00:20:03,268 Speaker 6: it last year. 469 00:20:03,228 --> 00:20:03,828 Speaker 5: Or the year before. 470 00:20:04,548 --> 00:20:06,148 Speaker 6: That's where they're going to get the best running backer 471 00:20:06,188 --> 00:20:06,668 Speaker 6: wide receiver. 472 00:20:06,708 --> 00:20:08,188 Speaker 5: Awkwards thinks it's just what it is. 473 00:20:08,228 --> 00:20:08,388 Speaker 2: Then. 474 00:20:10,068 --> 00:20:12,228 Speaker 3: The amount of pause that we just heard out of 475 00:20:12,228 --> 00:20:14,388 Speaker 3: Peter Kyle waiting to start this conversation, like put the 476 00:20:14,388 --> 00:20:17,908 Speaker 3: full screen and Peter just goes, okay, listen like that 477 00:20:18,348 --> 00:20:20,668 Speaker 3: to me is just how of like bloated and awkward 478 00:20:20,668 --> 00:20:22,908 Speaker 3: and heavy. This has become It's MVP. It's fun. 479 00:20:23,228 --> 00:20:24,268 Speaker 5: So is Christmas. 480 00:20:24,428 --> 00:20:26,428 Speaker 3: It's fun, right, That's what all the parents are saying 481 00:20:26,468 --> 00:20:28,748 Speaker 3: right now. There's a brilliant doubleheader a football coming your 482 00:20:28,748 --> 00:20:29,628 Speaker 3: way Christmas Day. 483 00:20:29,708 --> 00:20:29,788 Speaker 2: Up. 484 00:20:29,828 --> 00:20:33,108 Speaker 3: First, Chief Stealers in Pittsburgh one pm Eastern. There's a 485 00:20:33,188 --> 00:20:35,588 Speaker 3: quarterback situation going on in that game that we are 486 00:20:35,668 --> 00:20:39,428 Speaker 3: heavily paying attention to. Then mid afternoon, four thirty pm Eastern, 487 00:20:39,508 --> 00:20:41,748 Speaker 3: the Texans play host to the Ravens. It's a Christmas 488 00:20:41,788 --> 00:20:43,468 Speaker 3: Day doubleheader. I'm going to be in Houston. I'm really 489 00:20:43,468 --> 00:20:46,628 Speaker 3: excited about that. Games on Netflix. It's doubleheader. We look 490 00:20:46,628 --> 00:20:47,188 Speaker 3: forward to it. 491 00:20:47,228 --> 00:20:47,628 Speaker 5: Come out. 492 00:20:47,988 --> 00:20:51,708 Speaker 3: What did that guy Vince Woolford, you know him, We 493 00:20:51,788 --> 00:20:54,108 Speaker 3: love him. Bread at the show and a five time 494 00:20:54,228 --> 00:20:56,948 Speaker 3: NFL Pro Bowl or two time Super Bowl champion coming on. 495 00:20:57,108 --> 00:20:58,548 Speaker 5: Behalf of the USO. 496 00:20:58,748 --> 00:21:00,828 Speaker 3: Got a lot to talk about with Vince Woolfork. 497 00:21:02,508 --> 00:21:05,748 Speaker 8: Love Vince Loveladies coming in talk barbecue with Vince too. 498 00:21:05,748 --> 00:21:06,228 Speaker 2: It's the best. 499 00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:07,668 Speaker 5: Yeah, fifteen, We're going into. 500 00:21:07,468 --> 00:21:07,988 Speaker 8: The booth though. 501 00:21:08,548 --> 00:21:11,308 Speaker 5: You know the best players, you know the best highlights. 502 00:21:11,388 --> 00:21:14,508 Speaker 5: Vince still trucking there on screen. What about the best calls? 503 00:21:14,668 --> 00:21:17,308 Speaker 5: Who had the best sideline report? Who had the best anecdote? 504 00:21:17,388 --> 00:21:20,868 Speaker 8: We go into the booth best calls of the week, Next. 505 00:21:20,708 --> 00:21:35,348 Speaker 5: G MFB good mon football, Sherry, what you got? 506 00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:38,748 Speaker 9: How about Brown's quarterback Jamis Winston. He is a walking 507 00:21:39,028 --> 00:21:41,388 Speaker 9: sound bite this season after taking over the starting role, 508 00:21:41,428 --> 00:21:43,228 Speaker 9: but unfortunately. 509 00:21:42,628 --> 00:21:45,588 Speaker 5: His play in the field has it matched his mic skills. 510 00:21:45,748 --> 00:21:49,428 Speaker 9: Cleveland turning to its third string quarterback this season, as 511 00:21:49,588 --> 00:21:53,708 Speaker 9: NFL Network insider Tom Pelliser is reporting Dorian Thompson Robinson 512 00:21:53,708 --> 00:21:57,268 Speaker 9: getting the start Sunday against the Bengals. DTR started three 513 00:21:57,348 --> 00:22:00,228 Speaker 9: games last season as a rookie. And then another news 514 00:22:00,228 --> 00:22:03,508 Speaker 9: Cardinal safety Buddha Baker agreeing to a three year, fifty 515 00:22:03,548 --> 00:22:07,628 Speaker 9: four million dollar extension keeping him in Arizona the twenty 516 00:22:07,668 --> 00:22:10,788 Speaker 9: twenty seventh season. Baker has made the Pro Bowl six 517 00:22:10,908 --> 00:22:11,788 Speaker 9: times during his. 518 00:22:11,788 --> 00:22:13,548 Speaker 5: Eight year career there with the. 519 00:22:13,468 --> 00:22:16,988 Speaker 9: Cardinals and forty nine Ers. Had George Kittle spreading some 520 00:22:17,348 --> 00:22:20,228 Speaker 9: holiday cheer with the forty nine Ers Faithful at the 521 00:22:20,348 --> 00:22:23,828 Speaker 9: Valley Fair Mall in Santa Clara Kittle clause. We could 522 00:22:23,868 --> 00:22:27,548 Speaker 9: call him meeting fans, signing autographs, taking photos, handing out 523 00:22:27,548 --> 00:22:31,428 Speaker 9: some holiday gear. And we're sure spreading that holiday cheer. 524 00:22:31,988 --> 00:22:33,108 Speaker 5: The Plane Bell Fan of the Year. 525 00:22:33,028 --> 00:22:36,188 Speaker 9: Contest, presented by Captain Morgan is back. Let's hear it 526 00:22:36,228 --> 00:22:39,268 Speaker 9: for Tima Bay Buccaneer Fan of the Year Matt Algeri. 527 00:22:39,428 --> 00:22:42,948 Speaker 9: Matt has been a dedicated buckstand for nearly thirty years, 528 00:22:43,228 --> 00:22:46,548 Speaker 9: took on the prisona persona buck Nuts, as he is 529 00:22:46,628 --> 00:22:49,868 Speaker 9: known by other fans, who always is playing his over 530 00:22:50,028 --> 00:22:52,948 Speaker 9: the top passion and excitement look at him. Matt and 531 00:22:52,988 --> 00:22:55,628 Speaker 9: his wife are part of the group Tailgating with a Purpose, 532 00:22:55,988 --> 00:22:58,148 Speaker 9: for they helped to create a space for fans to 533 00:22:58,228 --> 00:23:01,788 Speaker 9: celebrate the bucks while also raising money for local charities. 534 00:23:02,068 --> 00:23:04,388 Speaker 9: Learn more about all thirty two nominees, but for your 535 00:23:04,428 --> 00:23:07,668 Speaker 9: our favorite is NFL dot Com Backslash Fan. 536 00:23:07,588 --> 00:23:08,148 Speaker 5: Of the Year. 537 00:23:08,748 --> 00:23:10,668 Speaker 8: Welcome into the Booth's one of our favorite parts in 538 00:23:10,748 --> 00:23:12,708 Speaker 8: NFL broadcasts is when the playback places. 539 00:23:12,708 --> 00:23:14,068 Speaker 5: We'd like to welcome you into the booth for a 540 00:23:14,108 --> 00:23:14,828 Speaker 5: few minutes. 541 00:23:14,588 --> 00:23:16,948 Speaker 8: Here and everybody clears the shot and they clear out 542 00:23:16,948 --> 00:23:19,508 Speaker 8: all their phones and their coffee, and it's just this nice, beautiful, 543 00:23:19,508 --> 00:23:22,068 Speaker 8: stately booth. And that is Peter and I and our blazers. 544 00:23:22,228 --> 00:23:23,868 Speaker 8: Speaking of stately, Peter, you look great. 545 00:23:23,668 --> 00:23:24,468 Speaker 5: Doesn't this feel good? 546 00:23:24,468 --> 00:23:27,868 Speaker 6: We got official blazers because we are officially sports broadcasters. 547 00:23:28,348 --> 00:23:31,268 Speaker 6: This Sports Broadcast Hall of Fame did its awards last night. 548 00:23:31,348 --> 00:23:32,828 Speaker 6: Andrew Kramer, of course, was honored. 549 00:23:32,868 --> 00:23:33,628 Speaker 5: We had her on the show. 550 00:23:33,868 --> 00:23:35,988 Speaker 6: So it's a tribute to all the great sports broadcasters 551 00:23:35,988 --> 00:23:38,948 Speaker 6: and the best calls of the week Kyle for the 552 00:23:38,988 --> 00:23:39,468 Speaker 6: first one. 553 00:23:39,588 --> 00:23:40,988 Speaker 5: Yes, can we go to the game of the week. 554 00:23:41,028 --> 00:23:44,388 Speaker 5: I think we really should. Let's go to best play call. Now. 555 00:23:44,428 --> 00:23:47,068 Speaker 8: We watched a lot of Nance and Romo this year, 556 00:23:47,508 --> 00:23:51,428 Speaker 8: but never calling a Bills Lions game. And sure enough, 557 00:23:51,588 --> 00:23:53,468 Speaker 8: Josh Allen and the Bills are in the red zone 558 00:23:53,908 --> 00:23:57,868 Speaker 8: and look what happens, Nance cooked Allan. 559 00:23:58,188 --> 00:24:01,228 Speaker 5: Look at this throwe oh touch down? Can you believe it? 560 00:24:01,308 --> 00:24:02,348 Speaker 5: A chest pass? 561 00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:03,948 Speaker 2: I've never seen it? 562 00:24:04,428 --> 00:24:07,868 Speaker 5: Got a flag down, it's a first holding offense. 563 00:24:08,428 --> 00:24:10,868 Speaker 10: Well, they had a Final four in ford Field back 564 00:24:10,908 --> 00:24:13,628 Speaker 10: on two thousand and nine, won by North Carolina. But 565 00:24:13,708 --> 00:24:16,508 Speaker 10: this was as good as basketball chess pass as I've 566 00:24:16,548 --> 00:24:19,748 Speaker 10: called in this building. But it's going to be numified 567 00:24:19,908 --> 00:24:21,028 Speaker 10: by the holding call. 568 00:24:21,388 --> 00:24:24,188 Speaker 5: I mean, that was magic birdesque, just excellent. 569 00:24:24,348 --> 00:24:27,188 Speaker 8: How excited did mister Nance get the second he could 570 00:24:27,228 --> 00:24:28,508 Speaker 8: tie in the nine final four. 571 00:24:28,548 --> 00:24:29,868 Speaker 5: How excited did we get think. 572 00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:32,308 Speaker 6: About Jim Nantz's career as the voice of the Final four. 573 00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:34,628 Speaker 6: And then he's obviously on this huge game in that 574 00:24:34,708 --> 00:24:37,308 Speaker 6: building where he's called final fours, and then Alan throws 575 00:24:37,308 --> 00:24:39,068 Speaker 6: his chess pass of course, stupid holding. 576 00:24:39,628 --> 00:24:42,108 Speaker 8: It's okay, it doesn't matter. We got called way by 577 00:24:42,108 --> 00:24:44,268 Speaker 8: the way, that nine Final four. I believe what we 578 00:24:44,308 --> 00:24:48,788 Speaker 8: got Yukon, Villanova, North Carolina. 579 00:24:48,388 --> 00:24:49,268 Speaker 5: Michigan State. 580 00:24:49,628 --> 00:24:52,908 Speaker 8: This is the psycho t Tyler, Hansbron North Carolina teams 581 00:24:53,068 --> 00:24:57,228 Speaker 8: and a freshman Draymond Green on Michigan State. The ball 582 00:24:57,268 --> 00:24:59,748 Speaker 8: had not been caught by Dalton Kincaid yet, and mister 583 00:24:59,868 --> 00:25:02,788 Speaker 8: nance still had not only the final four the year. 584 00:25:03,748 --> 00:25:04,308 Speaker 5: That's a long time. 585 00:25:04,388 --> 00:25:06,748 Speaker 8: I was fifteen years ago, and he has him catalog 586 00:25:06,828 --> 00:25:08,668 Speaker 8: and by the way, he's got all the masters the 587 00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:09,508 Speaker 8: same exact way. 588 00:25:09,548 --> 00:25:10,308 Speaker 5: It's just so good. 589 00:25:10,388 --> 00:25:12,468 Speaker 6: And just to give Romo a little bit of love, 590 00:25:12,508 --> 00:25:14,628 Speaker 6: he was like, that was magic and burd and you're like, dude, 591 00:25:14,668 --> 00:25:16,548 Speaker 6: it's not that they were both at that final for 592 00:25:17,028 --> 00:25:17,948 Speaker 6: pres in the building. 593 00:25:17,988 --> 00:25:19,508 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna give give Dad for a point and 594 00:25:19,628 --> 00:25:21,708 Speaker 5: give Romo point two. That was let's do. Let's go 595 00:25:21,788 --> 00:25:22,948 Speaker 5: to one of our other favorite Speter. 596 00:25:23,068 --> 00:25:24,868 Speaker 6: Okay, so this one needs a bit of a setup, 597 00:25:24,948 --> 00:25:27,068 Speaker 6: all right, it's the best fishtail of the week. And 598 00:25:27,068 --> 00:25:31,148 Speaker 6: if you were Thanksgiving Day last year, Chris Collinsworth told 599 00:25:31,148 --> 00:25:34,388 Speaker 6: this elaborate story how he went to the Seattle fish Market, 600 00:25:34,428 --> 00:25:36,988 Speaker 6: Pike Market, all that stuff, and went in there and 601 00:25:37,028 --> 00:25:40,708 Speaker 6: he accidentally spent nine hundred dollars on fish. He thought 602 00:25:40,708 --> 00:25:43,028 Speaker 6: he was buying a thirty five dollar fish, but he's 603 00:25:43,068 --> 00:25:44,628 Speaker 6: buying thirty five dollars a pound. 604 00:25:44,668 --> 00:25:45,588 Speaker 5: And then by that point it was. 605 00:25:45,588 --> 00:25:47,908 Speaker 6: Already package and he ended up footing the bill for 606 00:25:47,908 --> 00:25:49,028 Speaker 6: a nine hundred dollars fish. 607 00:25:49,108 --> 00:25:50,868 Speaker 5: Well, that came up again this weekend. 608 00:25:51,388 --> 00:25:54,988 Speaker 6: Best fishtail of the Week, excell Tarico and Collinsworth take 609 00:25:55,028 --> 00:25:55,388 Speaker 6: it away. 610 00:25:55,748 --> 00:25:56,268 Speaker 2: He's back. 611 00:25:57,028 --> 00:25:58,908 Speaker 11: That was me when I bought that salmon. 612 00:26:00,548 --> 00:26:03,228 Speaker 5: I did the same thing to tell that story later. 613 00:26:03,788 --> 00:26:08,708 Speaker 11: I never buy fish, right, But you're in the market, 614 00:26:08,868 --> 00:26:11,948 Speaker 11: you say, Okay, buys some fish, and I'm gonna take 615 00:26:11,948 --> 00:26:14,148 Speaker 11: it home for Thanksgiving. So go in there and I 616 00:26:14,188 --> 00:26:15,948 Speaker 11: see the thing. This pig fish is there and it 617 00:26:15,988 --> 00:26:19,068 Speaker 11: says thirty five dollars. Oh that's pretty good. That's about 618 00:26:19,068 --> 00:26:22,148 Speaker 11: the same prices in a restaurant right at thirty four, 619 00:26:22,228 --> 00:26:22,988 Speaker 11: nine to nine, right. 620 00:26:22,868 --> 00:26:23,268 Speaker 5: There it is. 621 00:26:23,668 --> 00:26:26,068 Speaker 11: So I come out and I go, I'll take two. 622 00:26:26,308 --> 00:26:27,908 Speaker 2: I know, seventy bucks, I got it. 623 00:26:28,028 --> 00:26:31,148 Speaker 11: I got yeah, I thought seventy two bucks eight hundred dollars. 624 00:26:31,228 --> 00:26:34,628 Speaker 5: I was like per pound, oh were per pound? Yeah, 625 00:26:34,628 --> 00:26:35,268 Speaker 5: but you can't. 626 00:26:35,468 --> 00:26:38,188 Speaker 11: You can't go back on you said you want to fish? 627 00:26:38,228 --> 00:26:39,148 Speaker 5: There, I got them loaded. 628 00:26:39,188 --> 00:26:42,108 Speaker 8: Do you break it? You buy it, we wrap it. 629 00:26:42,148 --> 00:26:44,508 Speaker 8: You're going home with it's gonna wrap the newspapers, Peter. 630 00:26:44,908 --> 00:26:47,348 Speaker 8: I've been to Pike's Place Market, I've done the walk. 631 00:26:47,428 --> 00:26:47,988 Speaker 5: It's really cool. 632 00:26:48,068 --> 00:26:50,548 Speaker 8: The original Starbucks in there even there too. Yeah, it's 633 00:26:50,588 --> 00:26:52,268 Speaker 8: fun and it's contagious, and you do want to buy 634 00:26:52,308 --> 00:26:54,828 Speaker 8: something a little fast and loose with the price. 635 00:26:54,828 --> 00:26:55,828 Speaker 5: See the signs. 636 00:26:55,908 --> 00:26:58,228 Speaker 8: The guys are sat there selling and you're kind of 637 00:26:58,228 --> 00:27:00,028 Speaker 8: going kind of like walking. 638 00:26:59,708 --> 00:27:03,308 Speaker 6: Down Times Square and buying a diamond ring, like yeah there. 639 00:27:03,148 --> 00:27:05,908 Speaker 5: And that's not where you do it, smoking cigarette, Yah, sidewalk, 640 00:27:06,388 --> 00:27:07,908 Speaker 5: come on, what's sappier than that. 641 00:27:08,068 --> 00:27:10,668 Speaker 6: It's great for a network promo and for a bump 642 00:27:10,748 --> 00:27:11,388 Speaker 6: to commercial. 643 00:27:11,508 --> 00:27:13,788 Speaker 8: Don't actually buy the fish, Yeah, you toss it in 644 00:27:13,788 --> 00:27:15,308 Speaker 8: the bump to commercial and your den and let me 645 00:27:15,348 --> 00:27:16,868 Speaker 8: understand this. He also said he was going to bring 646 00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:19,908 Speaker 8: the fish home for Thanksgiving. Chris doesn't live in Seattle 647 00:27:21,508 --> 00:27:25,148 Speaker 8: traveling with that fish or shipping the fish, Chriss, how were. 648 00:27:24,988 --> 00:27:26,788 Speaker 5: You going to bring all that salmon home? And what 649 00:27:26,788 --> 00:27:29,188 Speaker 5: did you do when you get there? That's amazing? All right? 650 00:27:29,268 --> 00:27:31,228 Speaker 5: That was the best fishtail, you know. 651 00:27:31,268 --> 00:27:33,868 Speaker 8: I think In another another episode of this, we had 652 00:27:34,228 --> 00:27:37,308 Speaker 8: Jason Garrett kept his turkey leg for like fifteen years 653 00:27:37,388 --> 00:27:39,468 Speaker 8: or something like that in the freezer. So we have 654 00:27:39,468 --> 00:27:43,268 Speaker 8: a running thread of weird old food mishappened by our guys. 655 00:27:43,468 --> 00:27:45,308 Speaker 5: We may have to make a new category. We're not 656 00:27:45,348 --> 00:27:48,828 Speaker 5: done with food yet. Also we have the cheese grater guy. 657 00:27:49,068 --> 00:27:53,788 Speaker 8: Yes segment, Geez, salmon turkey legs, it's disgusting. 658 00:27:53,788 --> 00:27:54,108 Speaker 2: What's that? 659 00:27:54,308 --> 00:27:55,468 Speaker 5: Can I give us a hot dog? 660 00:27:55,748 --> 00:27:55,948 Speaker 2: Yeah? 661 00:27:55,948 --> 00:28:00,108 Speaker 5: All right, so GLIZZI so jj. 662 00:27:59,908 --> 00:28:03,748 Speaker 6: Watson really good on the CBS pre I I'm putting 663 00:28:03,748 --> 00:28:05,908 Speaker 6: my sports media on, Like he's kind of given that 664 00:28:05,908 --> 00:28:07,868 Speaker 6: thing a little bit of juice and some new life, 665 00:28:07,868 --> 00:28:10,148 Speaker 6: and he's got takes and it's great to watch him. 666 00:28:10,628 --> 00:28:15,748 Speaker 6: He went full inside joke, full Netflix reference full Tim 667 00:28:15,828 --> 00:28:19,828 Speaker 6: Robinson on Sunday, take a look at Matt Ryan and 668 00:28:19,948 --> 00:28:22,988 Speaker 6: Jim Nantz having a very earnest conversation. But watch JJ 669 00:28:23,108 --> 00:28:25,348 Speaker 6: Watt during it and then we'll give you the whole 670 00:28:25,348 --> 00:28:26,668 Speaker 6: backstory on the back end. 671 00:28:26,988 --> 00:28:29,228 Speaker 12: I look at both these quarterbacks and I think they're 672 00:28:29,228 --> 00:28:31,628 Speaker 12: in the sweet spot of their career right where they 673 00:28:31,708 --> 00:28:33,788 Speaker 12: still have all of their physical ability. 674 00:28:34,188 --> 00:28:36,108 Speaker 5: And JJ's in the sweet spot. 675 00:28:36,428 --> 00:28:37,828 Speaker 2: He's hungry, man, it's lunchtime. 676 00:28:38,028 --> 00:28:39,628 Speaker 12: But I think they're in the sweet spot where they 677 00:28:39,628 --> 00:28:42,188 Speaker 12: still have all of their you know, God given ability, 678 00:28:42,428 --> 00:28:44,748 Speaker 12: but they have the experience, in your experience of sitting 679 00:28:44,788 --> 00:28:45,668 Speaker 12: down with these guys. 680 00:28:45,788 --> 00:28:47,788 Speaker 5: Are they primed and ready to go? Absolutely? 681 00:28:47,828 --> 00:28:50,148 Speaker 10: I think Detroit's gonna want to show that last week 682 00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:51,828 Speaker 10: was the one game they didn't feel like they ran 683 00:28:51,868 --> 00:28:54,308 Speaker 10: the football. Well, that's the best tandem as far as 684 00:28:54,348 --> 00:28:57,388 Speaker 10: a backfield in the league, and I expect they may 685 00:28:57,428 --> 00:28:59,988 Speaker 10: have a big performance today. On the other side, it's 686 00:29:00,028 --> 00:29:03,388 Speaker 10: just the embarrassment of what happened with the defense against 687 00:29:03,388 --> 00:29:06,908 Speaker 10: Los Angeles. This is all about attitude for Bobby Babbage's 688 00:29:06,948 --> 00:29:10,268 Speaker 10: defense today for the Bills. 689 00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:12,428 Speaker 6: Right, you go black and white because they have to explain. 690 00:29:12,708 --> 00:29:14,348 Speaker 5: So let's see the visual here. 691 00:29:14,428 --> 00:29:16,988 Speaker 6: If you watch Netflix's show, I think you should leave, 692 00:29:17,028 --> 00:29:17,628 Speaker 6: which has like. 693 00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:19,628 Speaker 5: A very big cult following. 694 00:29:19,868 --> 00:29:24,348 Speaker 6: There is a segment, a famous skit where Tim Robinson, Okay. 695 00:29:24,068 --> 00:29:25,668 Speaker 5: This is so deep cut, who. 696 00:29:25,508 --> 00:29:28,508 Speaker 6: Is a diehard Lions fan, So I guess JJ thought 697 00:29:28,508 --> 00:29:31,588 Speaker 6: he would be watching is in a conference room with 698 00:29:31,668 --> 00:29:34,108 Speaker 6: a meeting and just continuously eating a hot dog during 699 00:29:34,108 --> 00:29:36,508 Speaker 6: a very serious meeting, and they're like, you're gonna have 700 00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:38,628 Speaker 6: to miss your lunch for the meeting. And he keeps 701 00:29:38,668 --> 00:29:40,548 Speaker 6: on looking at the camera and he's got a hot 702 00:29:40,588 --> 00:29:43,188 Speaker 6: dog off his sleeve and he's continually like, this is 703 00:29:43,228 --> 00:29:45,468 Speaker 6: the deepest cut from JJ Watt, like he is a 704 00:29:45,508 --> 00:29:50,748 Speaker 6: true comedy nerd comedy geek comedy enthusiasts if he is 705 00:29:50,828 --> 00:29:53,708 Speaker 6: referencing Tim robson and then actually tweets about it afterwards, 706 00:29:54,148 --> 00:29:57,068 Speaker 6: J J Watt like, what a deep cut? And Nance 707 00:29:57,188 --> 00:29:58,868 Speaker 6: and Ryan are certainly not in on the. 708 00:29:58,908 --> 00:30:00,828 Speaker 5: Joke, not at all. And here's the thing about JJ. 709 00:30:00,908 --> 00:30:03,788 Speaker 8: You still think about the bloody nose ninety nine pensive 710 00:30:03,788 --> 00:30:06,108 Speaker 8: player of the you a that close friends with Sebastian 711 00:30:06,148 --> 00:30:10,228 Speaker 8: Maniscalco way into comedy. If we had Chris read the 712 00:30:10,348 --> 00:30:13,028 Speaker 8: former SNL cast member on the show, he said that JJ, 713 00:30:13,108 --> 00:30:15,948 Speaker 8: who hosted SNL was the best athlete they have ever 714 00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:19,348 Speaker 8: had to do it by far, really really good and 715 00:30:19,508 --> 00:30:20,388 Speaker 8: bad moms. 716 00:30:21,148 --> 00:30:24,028 Speaker 5: He plays like this Jim teacher and really funny. 717 00:30:24,308 --> 00:30:27,428 Speaker 8: So he's this super talented football player obviously, but he's 718 00:30:27,468 --> 00:30:30,708 Speaker 8: doing physical comedy as Jim nance is breaking down the 719 00:30:30,748 --> 00:30:34,268 Speaker 8: psychology of the Detroit Lions. Also one last story also, 720 00:30:34,348 --> 00:30:35,948 Speaker 8: I just think he kind of wanted to eat. I 721 00:30:36,028 --> 00:30:39,948 Speaker 8: have months ago, I was at this like a CBS party, 722 00:30:40,148 --> 00:30:42,908 Speaker 8: a CBS NFL and CBS and I find myself in 723 00:30:42,948 --> 00:30:46,268 Speaker 8: the buffet line next to JJ Watt. All right, two plates, 724 00:30:46,748 --> 00:30:48,828 Speaker 8: every single inch of them is covered. Like when you 725 00:30:48,868 --> 00:30:51,068 Speaker 8: reach in there to get the salisbury steak, you know 726 00:30:51,148 --> 00:30:53,628 Speaker 8: you take one. He was like four steaks on the 727 00:30:53,668 --> 00:30:55,708 Speaker 8: plate at one time, and then you had the Carbs 728 00:30:55,788 --> 00:30:56,588 Speaker 8: plate together. 729 00:30:56,948 --> 00:30:59,348 Speaker 5: I have never seen someone attack a buffet like this. 730 00:30:59,788 --> 00:31:01,628 Speaker 8: I think he kind of wanted to just eat the 731 00:31:01,628 --> 00:31:03,908 Speaker 8: hot dog. And he's like, while I'm doing it, I'll 732 00:31:03,908 --> 00:31:04,908 Speaker 8: make enough reference. 733 00:31:04,908 --> 00:31:06,388 Speaker 5: It's really deep. JJ. Amazing thing. 734 00:31:06,868 --> 00:31:10,188 Speaker 6: Netflix, of course broadcasting the games on Christmas Day. That 735 00:31:10,308 --> 00:31:12,508 Speaker 6: is how we got that picture approved of Tim Robinson. 736 00:31:12,508 --> 00:31:14,268 Speaker 6: Thank you Netflix partners. 737 00:31:14,308 --> 00:31:16,268 Speaker 8: You can say Patrick Mahomes is I'm gonna play on 738 00:31:16,308 --> 00:31:17,908 Speaker 8: Christmas Day and Tim Robins will say. 739 00:31:17,748 --> 00:31:21,148 Speaker 5: Are you sure about that? Are you sure about that? Yes, 740 00:31:21,148 --> 00:31:22,428 Speaker 5: we're sure those get about there. 741 00:31:22,508 --> 00:31:26,348 Speaker 6: We have one World War and it's the best for last. 742 00:31:26,388 --> 00:31:28,948 Speaker 8: Oh, yes, this is all right. So we have a category. 743 00:31:29,028 --> 00:31:31,588 Speaker 8: It's called Great Scott. Not a reference to Doc Brown 744 00:31:31,668 --> 00:31:35,148 Speaker 8: or Christopher Lloyd, to the Great Scott Hanson. We're gonna 745 00:31:35,148 --> 00:31:37,228 Speaker 8: do it every single week and our favorite Scott Hanson 746 00:31:37,268 --> 00:31:41,388 Speaker 8: moment from seven Hours taking away Scott or use. 747 00:31:41,308 --> 00:31:44,948 Speaker 5: The run game or quarterback run game up. Mitchell's going 748 00:31:44,988 --> 00:31:51,548 Speaker 5: to be a double pass, but his intercepted. It's Benito unbelievable. 749 00:31:52,268 --> 00:31:54,268 Speaker 10: Can't grab the Benitos when you're going in on a 750 00:31:54,348 --> 00:31:57,148 Speaker 10: touchdown like that, But Denver will celebrate. 751 00:31:57,788 --> 00:31:59,908 Speaker 6: I mean, Scott is sometimes you're just like it's a 752 00:31:59,948 --> 00:32:02,428 Speaker 6: heat check, you know, like you're shooting, You're shooting three pointers, 753 00:32:02,468 --> 00:32:03,468 Speaker 6: you got made eight in a row. You're like, I'm 754 00:32:03,468 --> 00:32:05,588 Speaker 6: just gonna take one from the D corner. And Scott 755 00:32:05,588 --> 00:32:08,188 Speaker 6: Hanton is certainly in the zone right now the Benitos 756 00:32:08,308 --> 00:32:09,948 Speaker 6: as the man grabs his crotch. 757 00:32:10,068 --> 00:32:11,908 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it went from red zone to blue zone. 758 00:32:11,948 --> 00:32:14,468 Speaker 8: Scott doesn't usually work. No, but I would say this 759 00:32:14,988 --> 00:32:18,388 Speaker 8: seven hours of commercially free football, right seventeen games, that 760 00:32:18,588 --> 00:32:21,508 Speaker 8: is one hundred and nineteen hours of commercial free football. 761 00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:22,188 Speaker 5: At some point you. 762 00:32:22,228 --> 00:32:24,628 Speaker 8: Got to try all the materity you can. I don't 763 00:32:24,628 --> 00:32:26,748 Speaker 8: know if anybody would have made the grab the Benito's away. 764 00:32:26,748 --> 00:32:27,548 Speaker 8: I don't even know it makes sense. 765 00:32:27,588 --> 00:32:30,268 Speaker 5: Don't think it makes sense. I don't. Nobody says this 766 00:32:31,428 --> 00:32:35,628 Speaker 5: got not a term. It is now. It is now, 767 00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:38,508 Speaker 5: and Scott, we always follow your lead. It is the 768 00:32:38,628 --> 00:32:40,308 Speaker 5: Great Scott Award. 769 00:32:40,108 --> 00:32:42,348 Speaker 8: And it is our segment to pay tribute to our 770 00:32:42,388 --> 00:32:43,308 Speaker 8: favorite broadcasters. 771 00:32:43,388 --> 00:32:45,188 Speaker 5: It's into the booth. We'll see you next week. 772 00:32:45,308 --> 00:32:47,508 Speaker 13: Bye, guys, I buy see you later in our family 773 00:32:47,548 --> 00:32:59,908 Speaker 13: to yours transition to bump, says the teleprompt. Good mon, 774 00:33:01,348 --> 00:33:04,188 Speaker 13: he's an NFL legend, and he's pretty much a national treasure. 775 00:33:04,228 --> 00:33:06,428 Speaker 8: The point he's joining us on behalf of the US. 776 00:33:06,628 --> 00:33:08,348 Speaker 8: Oh you know him, you love him. We got a 777 00:33:08,428 --> 00:33:09,748 Speaker 8: Vince WILFERK. What's up, big Vince? 778 00:33:09,748 --> 00:33:12,148 Speaker 2: How we doing? I'm doing good? How you guys doing? 779 00:33:12,228 --> 00:33:12,828 Speaker 2: How's everyone? 780 00:33:13,068 --> 00:33:13,428 Speaker 5: Awesome? 781 00:33:13,708 --> 00:33:17,268 Speaker 8: Awesome excellence, Love to see you, Love the stately bookshelves, 782 00:33:17,308 --> 00:33:20,028 Speaker 8: Love the USO sweatshirt, and of course we love the 783 00:33:20,188 --> 00:33:23,508 Speaker 8: topic of the week. You're a former head coach, Bill 784 00:33:23,548 --> 00:33:26,988 Speaker 8: Belichick is going back to college. Vince, What is going 785 00:33:27,028 --> 00:33:28,468 Speaker 8: through your head about this? What do you make of 786 00:33:28,588 --> 00:33:31,028 Speaker 8: Bill Belichick college head coach? 787 00:33:31,628 --> 00:33:34,268 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, Like that's that's new to me. 788 00:33:34,428 --> 00:33:38,308 Speaker 2: I know Bill from NFL, so I've heard he is 789 00:33:38,428 --> 00:33:41,868 Speaker 2: what his father has some history with North Carolina or 790 00:33:41,948 --> 00:33:47,148 Speaker 2: something something dealing with Norm. I just don't know, Okay, 791 00:33:47,268 --> 00:33:48,828 Speaker 2: So I mean I don't know. I know one thing, 792 00:33:48,868 --> 00:33:50,828 Speaker 2: he's a great coach. I'll tell you that he's he's 793 00:33:50,908 --> 00:33:53,388 Speaker 2: going to be able to put a put a program together. 794 00:33:53,468 --> 00:33:55,588 Speaker 2: But my mind, I got to say, what's going to 795 00:33:55,628 --> 00:33:57,108 Speaker 2: happen when he had to sit down with the parents, 796 00:33:57,188 --> 00:33:59,748 Speaker 2: Like what that's going to be like? So I'm interested 797 00:33:59,868 --> 00:34:02,228 Speaker 2: to see and hear about that when he had to 798 00:34:02,348 --> 00:34:03,468 Speaker 2: visit the parents and the kids. 799 00:34:04,548 --> 00:34:06,748 Speaker 6: Vince, you were one of the greatest of your generation 800 00:34:07,148 --> 00:34:09,068 Speaker 6: and you also were one of the most athletic big 801 00:34:09,148 --> 00:34:11,188 Speaker 6: men that we have seen in the NFL. 802 00:34:11,388 --> 00:34:13,508 Speaker 5: And at this show, we love when big men get 803 00:34:13,548 --> 00:34:14,428 Speaker 5: the rock and go. 804 00:34:14,588 --> 00:34:17,188 Speaker 6: Now you've had a scoop and score in your career, Sir, 805 00:34:17,308 --> 00:34:20,108 Speaker 6: you also had that amazing interception against Philip Rivers and 806 00:34:20,148 --> 00:34:22,708 Speaker 6: twenty other which we have shown a thousand times. We 807 00:34:22,868 --> 00:34:25,548 Speaker 6: got one this week that was so good from a 808 00:34:25,668 --> 00:34:29,708 Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty pound rookie defensive tackle to and 809 00:34:29,748 --> 00:34:32,468 Speaker 6: Andre Sweat. I'm not sure if you saw what Sweat 810 00:34:32,548 --> 00:34:35,548 Speaker 6: did for the Titans, but he was pushing off the defenders. 811 00:34:35,788 --> 00:34:36,228 Speaker 5: He got the. 812 00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:39,428 Speaker 6: Angry Run Award when you saw to Andre Sweat, Hey, 813 00:34:39,468 --> 00:34:41,188 Speaker 6: kids play and we're gonna show it here for you. 814 00:34:41,708 --> 00:34:44,428 Speaker 6: What was your initial reaction seeing this big boy move 815 00:34:44,508 --> 00:34:47,228 Speaker 6: and Swatt Swatt an offensive lineman to the ground. 816 00:34:47,588 --> 00:34:50,148 Speaker 2: You know, I saw, I saw you a little bit 817 00:34:50,228 --> 00:34:51,828 Speaker 2: of it because I was out of the country. So 818 00:34:51,908 --> 00:34:53,588 Speaker 2: when I did sound, I say that big boy Roland 819 00:34:53,628 --> 00:34:55,268 Speaker 2: looked like me, and I say that's Sweat me my 820 00:34:55,308 --> 00:34:57,388 Speaker 2: wife would talk. I say, that's what that's a Texas boy. 821 00:34:57,548 --> 00:34:59,988 Speaker 2: And I love to see big boyd rome because we're 822 00:35:00,068 --> 00:35:02,228 Speaker 2: so athletic and some you don't get a chance to 823 00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:04,828 Speaker 2: see that, especially with the ball in our hands often, 824 00:35:04,908 --> 00:35:06,388 Speaker 2: but when you get a chance to get the ball, 825 00:35:06,468 --> 00:35:09,148 Speaker 2: you can really see the athleticism with some of the 826 00:35:09,188 --> 00:35:12,548 Speaker 2: big guys and understand like we more than just defensive linemen. 827 00:35:13,108 --> 00:35:15,708 Speaker 2: If we probably played some other sports other than football 828 00:35:15,788 --> 00:35:19,268 Speaker 2: going up and obviously you can see with sweat that 829 00:35:19,548 --> 00:35:21,548 Speaker 2: he has some he have a skill set, but he 830 00:35:21,628 --> 00:35:24,788 Speaker 2: got some got some quick feet, light on his toes. 831 00:35:24,908 --> 00:35:27,308 Speaker 2: So I was having to see big boy get rolling. 832 00:35:28,228 --> 00:35:28,628 Speaker 2: I love it. 833 00:35:29,268 --> 00:35:32,388 Speaker 3: Yeah, you big guys from Texas. You light on your feet, 834 00:35:32,588 --> 00:35:35,428 Speaker 3: very athletic and I can imagine that you like to eat. 835 00:35:35,628 --> 00:35:37,588 Speaker 3: Vince one of the reasons why I love you when 836 00:35:37,588 --> 00:35:39,468 Speaker 3: I covered you in New England. And now you're a 837 00:35:39,588 --> 00:35:42,268 Speaker 3: foodie and that resonates with a lot of people. On 838 00:35:42,388 --> 00:35:46,788 Speaker 3: your Instagram page, you are oftentimes seen cooking up incredible barbecue. 839 00:35:46,948 --> 00:35:49,628 Speaker 3: Now you've shamed Peter in the past for suggesting that 840 00:35:49,788 --> 00:35:53,508 Speaker 3: you boil ribs. What is the secret to the perfect 841 00:35:53,828 --> 00:35:54,948 Speaker 3: will fork rib? 842 00:35:55,388 --> 00:35:58,188 Speaker 2: It's low and slow. I mean, you can't rush, low 843 00:35:58,268 --> 00:36:00,308 Speaker 2: and slow. It is just that simple. And I'll tell 844 00:36:00,348 --> 00:36:01,988 Speaker 2: people all the time because people always ask me that, 845 00:36:02,108 --> 00:36:04,988 Speaker 2: I think that's the most important thing when you trying 846 00:36:05,028 --> 00:36:08,588 Speaker 2: to barbecue and smoke something. It's just temperature control. And 847 00:36:08,988 --> 00:36:11,388 Speaker 2: because season is and seasoning, you know, whatever you like 848 00:36:11,468 --> 00:36:13,228 Speaker 2: to taste with your season in your rub, you know 849 00:36:13,348 --> 00:36:15,028 Speaker 2: you do that and A lot of people have different 850 00:36:15,148 --> 00:36:18,068 Speaker 2: you know, they preferences difference, but the main key I 851 00:36:18,148 --> 00:36:20,268 Speaker 2: think is the temperature, being able to go low and 852 00:36:20,348 --> 00:36:22,868 Speaker 2: slow and just don't rush everything. So oh yeah, those 853 00:36:23,028 --> 00:36:25,468 Speaker 2: was my light of pop bacon. 854 00:36:28,348 --> 00:36:32,708 Speaker 5: Rapped. Oh my goodness, perfect, you got me hungry over here. 855 00:36:32,748 --> 00:36:34,628 Speaker 5: That looks so good. That looks so good. 856 00:36:35,868 --> 00:36:36,788 Speaker 2: I get that. Yeah. 857 00:36:36,828 --> 00:36:39,308 Speaker 7: But now besides barbecue, though, I know you you love 858 00:36:39,428 --> 00:36:43,188 Speaker 7: teaming up with our troops uh in US and the USO. 859 00:36:43,588 --> 00:36:45,868 Speaker 7: Tell us about your recent USO holiday tour. 860 00:36:46,268 --> 00:36:48,548 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was my second year during a 861 00:36:48,668 --> 00:36:51,668 Speaker 2: USO tour, and you know we went this year, we 862 00:36:51,748 --> 00:36:54,708 Speaker 2: went to a roll of Spain Navy Base and Aveano 863 00:36:54,788 --> 00:36:57,708 Speaker 2: and the Air Force Base and Genza Army, Suda Bay, 864 00:36:57,788 --> 00:37:01,148 Speaker 2: Grease and Cigadella, uh and and ended up in Naples 865 00:37:01,228 --> 00:37:04,548 Speaker 2: and just being able to be with our military your 866 00:37:04,628 --> 00:37:08,228 Speaker 2: family was such an amazing time, especially especially around the 867 00:37:08,268 --> 00:37:10,708 Speaker 2: holiday season. And if we can do one thing, and 868 00:37:10,748 --> 00:37:14,588 Speaker 2: then that's just to show our appreciated appreciation to our 869 00:37:14,668 --> 00:37:17,548 Speaker 2: military and families and members, that's what we wanted to 870 00:37:17,588 --> 00:37:19,388 Speaker 2: do and I think we I think we nailed it. 871 00:37:19,668 --> 00:37:21,788 Speaker 2: It was the coolest thing. With everything we got a 872 00:37:21,868 --> 00:37:24,108 Speaker 2: chance to see so many different stuff, but the coolest 873 00:37:24,148 --> 00:37:26,868 Speaker 2: thing out of all of it was one. You know, 874 00:37:27,028 --> 00:37:29,988 Speaker 2: these soldiers, these young men asked for a hug, right, 875 00:37:30,268 --> 00:37:32,708 Speaker 2: asked for a hug. And the second best thing with 876 00:37:32,828 --> 00:37:37,348 Speaker 2: everything was they just wanted to understand and it was 877 00:37:37,508 --> 00:37:40,028 Speaker 2: very appreciative of us coming over there and being with them, 878 00:37:40,228 --> 00:37:42,468 Speaker 2: and they put a smile on their faces. And that's 879 00:37:42,708 --> 00:37:46,548 Speaker 2: that's the whole mission behind it is, you know, bringing 880 00:37:46,988 --> 00:37:49,948 Speaker 2: awareness and understand it and just telling them how important 881 00:37:49,988 --> 00:37:52,308 Speaker 2: and what do you guys mean to us because a 882 00:37:52,348 --> 00:37:53,708 Speaker 2: lot of times they don't hear it because you have 883 00:37:53,748 --> 00:37:56,348 Speaker 2: to understand how far they're away from family and friends. 884 00:37:56,468 --> 00:37:58,668 Speaker 2: So a lot of them don't see family for years. 885 00:37:59,108 --> 00:38:01,548 Speaker 2: And so for the US so to put something together 886 00:38:01,588 --> 00:38:05,308 Speaker 2: in the USO JD crowds the President and we traveled 887 00:38:05,308 --> 00:38:08,828 Speaker 2: with the Admiral Gray, Joint Chief. They did a wonderful 888 00:38:08,948 --> 00:38:11,308 Speaker 2: job us together. So we really appreciated it. 889 00:38:12,228 --> 00:38:15,028 Speaker 8: We appreciate you, We appreciate all the work that's God's work. Vince, 890 00:38:15,228 --> 00:38:17,788 Speaker 8: Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to your entire family. 891 00:38:17,868 --> 00:38:19,668 Speaker 5: Man is always great when you stop by. We'll see 892 00:38:19,668 --> 00:38:20,068 Speaker 5: you next time. 893 00:38:20,148 --> 00:38:22,708 Speaker 2: Vince Love Evincence, thank you guys. 894 00:38:23,588 --> 00:38:25,348 Speaker 5: We love you on Good Morning Football. We really do. 895 00:38:25,548 --> 00:38:27,428 Speaker 5: Glad you watched. We hope you watch tomorrow.