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Speaker 1: Another episode of West Burning, my brother Matt Barnes is

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Speaker 1: Here the odds presented to you by draft Kings on

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Speaker 1: how many games this series would go me personally is

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Speaker 1: Heating versus Boston game. Going seven. They're going seven games

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Speaker 1: we're talking on some tough matchups. And for me, you know,

424
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: I was guarding power Forward, so I was going small.

425
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: For I was guarding two guards and point guards. Guarden

426
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 1: Ai Guarden you know, Baron Davis, are you kidding me? Listen?

427
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: Contino Mobley Man, come on, that was tough, bro, So

428
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 1: question for both of you guys. Man gotta started with you.

429
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: Who give me three of the best one on one

430
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 1: players in the two thousand's outside of the obvious though, Matt,

431
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: come on, we know you, we know outside the obvious.

432
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 1: I just named one. Contino Mobile Cat Cat Cat was

433
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 1: a problem, bro Right, I'm gonna give you all another

434
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 1: one that was pretty tough. Monster mash Man, Monster Monster

435
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: Mash was a problem. The brow and we're talking and

436
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: we're talking not the obvious, so I put Monster Mash

437
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: in there. And thirdly, I mean I ain't gonna get

438
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: you that, bro, because that's what you do. Uh uh Stack,

439
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: I'll throw you in there. You was a tough guard.

440
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: You know. You know why you was a tough guard

441
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: because I couldn't block the shot because you put that

442
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: to it all the way behind your head in his

443
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: slas hell, what is a piece with this game? Like

444
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: it's like, oh ship, you know about this, but it

445
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: was so slow bro throwing that thing while you yeah,

446
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: you couldn't block it. I mean he talked once you

447
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: have a swooning in the league, right, bro? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

448
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: absolutely did. He was really tough in Charlotte. You and

449
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: you and Gerald what's what's buddy? Ain't Gerald Wallace y'all

450
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: y'all was tough. It was that was toughing together in Charlotte.

451
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three. That's that's not like t

452
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: mac kobe Ai, I'm gonna give you in not d way.

453
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three. I'm gonna go Gilbert Arenas tough.

454
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Baron tough, and I'm gonna go

455
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: with Steve Francis because they had one shake where the

456
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: whole side was clear for you had the whole side

457
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: just clear for you and you on the island and

458
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: Rudy letting drive them. So I'm gonna go with him.

459
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: Three I had to guard in two thousand's what about

460
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: your stuff? If I had to give you three and

461
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: I can't name y'all. One I'm gonna go with because

462
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: he got my respect. Brandon Roy Uh, I gotta go Brandon. Nah.

463
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: He was a problem. Don He gave me problems. Dog.

464
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: I would have to go to Karen. Buto was tough. Yeah,

465
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: you know he wasn't just because the cross the type

466
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: of guy, but he was just he just can get

467
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: a bucket. Yeah, and somebody else who had one on

468
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: one game but it wasn't flashy. But he got twenty

469
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: two thousand points. And and they know I always talked

470
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: about him on the show at Twin jameson Dog he

471
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: had and got it done, a bucket done. He was

472
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: a bucket But what you said, but would you say

473
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: he's one on one though he was more of a

474
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: garbage man. But he got buckets, right, That's what I'm saying.

475
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: So and go to State he got buckets, and that

476
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: they was going to him when he was in go

477
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: to State. He was getting buckets fifty balls. A matter

478
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: of fact, I think he I think he had. I

479
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: think he had fifty back to back. He did, Yeah

480
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: he did. It's the Lakers, he did. Yeah, he got buckets.

481
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: And that's crazy because the man got twenty two thousand points. Bro,

482
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: j got you got twenty thousand two, don't you. They

483
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: robbed me, Mack, They robbed me. They took the last

484
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: two years something you only need a four hundred eighty

485
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: six points. But they got me. They got sick too.

486
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: I was sick. I ain't gonna lie. I never talked

487
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: about it. I was sick. I was four hundred and

488
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: eighty six points from twenty thousand. I thought I was

489
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: gonna hit it. They got your way got me and

490
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: I could. I could have set on the bitch and

491
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,239
Speaker 1: played five minutes, give me three points a game. I'm

492
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: gonna ease into this. They they got it from me.

493
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 1: They got it. Yeah, yeah, reaching that twenties special, man,

494
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: I didn't reach it. But you did everything else, averaging

495
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: thirty two, seven and six and twenty three. But man,

496
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: let me ask. I got back on my wall. That's

497
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: a whole other story. Back and ask this, bro, because

498
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: you've got so many signature moves, right, you got your

499
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: hand drivel, you got the behind the back when you

500
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: put it in front of their face. You got the

501
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: off the backboard in the glass. Two part question one,

502
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: what's your favorite signature move and to what signature moves

503
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: do you like the others that's either playing now, I

504
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: played in the past that you was like, oh that's nice.

505
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: I ain't did that. There is nothing greater than it

506
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: has and pull up, bro man, I stole that from you,

507
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: greater than the heavy pull up. Everyone is using a

508
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: heavy everybody because it's set sup other moves, right, And

509
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: that's why I came up with it, because you just

510
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm a if I'm you know, rocking

511
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: you to sleep, to cross you over or rock you

512
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: to sleep and pull up on you a rocket to sleep,

513
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: or keep it in my left hand and go by

514
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: you or go between the like you. You just don't know.

515
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: Like I created so many moves just out of the

516
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: heasbant out of that. Yeah, and then what what what? What?

517
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: What moves you like from other guys? Signature moves that

518
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: you've seen over the years. Yeah, it is so many.

519
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: You're a joint that you did going between you. Let

520
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: you went like you did something crazy with the bulls

521
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: one time when you do go behind the back, Like

522
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy in itself. He had he had one

523
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: too when he went through the legs into a hot step. Yeah. Yeah,

524
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: that was the one that was the one to come

525
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: from speeding and to hit it. But it was more

526
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: like like we kind of like bring the ball over

527
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: your head or something. Yeah, exactly exactly picking up on

528
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: the fly man. I was making up every daffer was

529
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: pre stout Friday for me. I was just making it

530
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: up as hey but stack stack little known story, little

531
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: known story. I hit team Mac because we was tight,

532
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: still our type, but we was tight. And I hit

533
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: him like, yo, I want to get better. You're the

534
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: best can I can work out with you? And he

535
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: was so gracious, him and his family, and they let

536
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: me stay in the house and everything. And as soon

537
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: as I dropped, my bags were right in the gym

538
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: and the old house, not the new house. Get the

539
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: old house, the new one got a court too, the

540
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: new okay, okay, okay. But I saw him Hangel, and

541
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: I stole little handel from him and Kobe. I saw

542
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: him and Kobe do it first, no doubt about it.

543
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: And I was doing with the left hand, and when

544
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: we were working out, Matt showed me how to do

545
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: with the right hand. And the thing that struck me

546
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: about Team Mat is if you watch him from a distance,

547
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, man, he scored so easy. Everything is

548
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: so easy. He can go to sleep and average fifty

549
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: before a game. The thing about I didn't know it's

550
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: how hard he worked. This dude was working out three

551
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: times a day. He's on the track at four in

552
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: the morning, He's back in the gym at ten the morning,

553
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: back in the way room at twill, backshoot at nighttime.

554
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: And you would never know that. I ain't an live

555
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: mac and I ain't never told you I thought it

556
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: was gonna be some easy workouts. I really did. I

557
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: said he's easy. I were still smooth from you. My

558
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: man worked out so hard. I'm like, man, I'm dying

559
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: over here. But because that his manner is and the

560
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: person we know and his workout does not go together

561
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: dog pulling this ship off the court. But this man

562
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: had a super intense My man was obsessed. Bro like

563
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: he was obsessed. I'm like, damn, okay, that's why he's

564
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: as great as he is. It wasn't just the talent,

565
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't the guy given ability. He pushed it all

566
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 1: the way to the limit with that guy giving ability,

567
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: and that's why his team. Man. Yeah, now that's what

568
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: it was. Man. It was for me in the off

569
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: season because I never showed, like how I work workout.

570
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: Y'all know me, man, I'm just laid back. I'm cool.

571
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: I ain't all. I ain't all about the show. I

572
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: don't care if you see I don't care if you

573
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: think I work out or not. That doesn't matter, because

574
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: that's what people were saying, like, Oh, he's lazy, he's

575
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: this man, trust me. That's that's what I did in

576
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: the off season. How how are you lazy it? How

577
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: are you lazy? You don't work hard to be able

578
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: to accomplish what I accomplished in my career? What do

579
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: you say about What are you saying about those that

580
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: do accomplish you know, uh, scoring titles and and take

581
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: their team to to win championships and all these personal

582
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: accolades that catch What are you saying about them just

583
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: because you see it, right, because they show it to you.

584
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: To me, it's just a slap in the face. How

585
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: you spit on somebody? You know what I'm saying and

586
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: you don't even know. We don't see what I do.

587
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: But yet you want to put a label that I

588
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: don't work hard. Bring your ass something over. Crazy. Come

589
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: come on and work out with me. You'll see. Man,

590
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: it was crazy. I couldn't believe it's that. I was

591
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: there for a week. I cannot believe it. When when

592
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: did you develop the hang joke with off? Did you

593
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: have it in high school? I say my first year

594
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: with the Magic. First first year with the Magic, That's

595
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: when I developed because I was always a left or

596
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: right crossover to I got right right, So I love

597
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: to do the left and right crossover. But then I

598
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I start trying different things up there

599
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: was damn bring you right into my shot, and it

600
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: just felt comfortable. It's like, this is it, this is

601
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: It's actually one of the most unguardable moves ever. It

602
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: makes guys unguardable. When you see you see Kevin Durant

603
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: right when you're seeing Code, you see Mac, you see myself.

604
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: Kyrie is doing it like you think about I just

605
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: said everybody from six and eleven and seven feet down.

606
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: The six one is doing that move. They're putting it

607
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: in there their teaching moments. Right. I'm teaching kids now,

608
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: and I teach them to hang drible. So a lot

609
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: of most respect to you for that, yes, sir, All

610
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: right now, now let's get into this next seventy thousand's list. Man,

611
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: let's get up. First. Up, we got your family yoke,

612
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: your family member. Three year peak twenty six points per game,

613
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: six rebounds with game, four assists per game, twenty five

614
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: k career points, twenty second all time, eleven straight season's

615
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: average of twenty of more, eight time All Star Rookie

616
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: of the Year, two thousand all NBA half man half amazing,

617
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: somebody who I was terrified of at nights. Vince Carter.

618
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: Matt is like having front row seat to the Vince

619
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: Carter showing to run. Man, let me tell you something, bro,

620
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: he should have been the top seventy five, no doubt

621
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: about both of them, both of ums. That no question.

622
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: My second year in the league, Bro, this dude came

623
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: in as a rookie and man, you like, I've seen

624
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: this stuff in high school because I played on the

625
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: junior team Florida and he was on the older team,

626
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: so I played. I always played before him in the summertime,

627
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: and I used to just sit in the stands and

628
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: watch this cat. I can't believe my eyes what this

629
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: high school dude doing. Like I thought I was good,

630
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: but I'm like, oh, different of the gym. It's just

631
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: it's a whole another level. I'm gonna tell you what

632
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: y'all probably don't know. This man broke his right risk

633
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: in the state finance, bro and dropped thirty five with

634
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: the left hand. Mac. You know what that makes? You

635
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: know what? It makes all the sense in the world

636
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: because now he shoot left hand threes. That's where it

637
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: came from. Oh, Bro, it's effortless. It looks just like

638
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: he's right. That's talents. It was a highlight reel. Every game,

639
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: it's a highlight reel. I couldn't believe this man and

640
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: came and took the league by storm as a rookie

641
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: like that. You know, I'm still trying to find my way.

642
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm sitting back out front Rose and I'm just loving

643
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: every bit of it. Right top seventy five easy, both

644
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: of y'all. They may be the only, maybe the only

645
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: family members that should be in the top seventy five,

646
00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: but Jack not exactly. Ronald test three peak eighteen points

647
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: per game, five rebounds, four sis per game two thousand

648
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: four DEFENSI Player of the Year, youngest defensive player winner

649
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: since Michael Jordan. Question for the group that's defender you

650
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: guys ever faced Ron's up there, He's at the top

651
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: of I don't have enough information to be like, well,

652
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: Rod did a better job than this guy. He's on

653
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: the list. Say he's definitely on the list. He's just

654
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: it's long arms, strong hands. I figure run out very

655
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: early because I used to sit there and try to

656
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: dance with him, just play around with very early, very early.

657
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: I can't play with this guy. No, you cannot. I

658
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: cannot because he's not going for any of this, any

659
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: of my face. Like it's like move whatever moved I

660
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: try to put on him. He got that long, strong,

661
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: gass left hand. He's just gonna stick that. Like if

662
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: you try to cross over and then he's gonna put

663
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: it on, He's gonna put it on you. You ain't

664
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: gonna be able to move right right now. He was

665
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: a problem. I had to figure him out early. Yeah,

666
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: that's my brother down here. One time All Star to

667
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: two thousand three, two thousand four All NBA two thousand ten,

668
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: NBA Champion nine, two thousand All Rookie two thousand three,

669
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of yeard of course at four time All

670
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: Defensive Team, A lot of a lot of stuff during

671
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: the game, and being misunderstood kept him away from a

672
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: lot of his accolades because Ron was definitely one of

673
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: the best defenders in the league and one of the

674
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: best two way players to ever played this game. Because

675
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: if you know, if you know anything about Ron, I

676
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: played with him and I've seen him dominate both sides

677
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: of the game against some of the top teams in

678
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: the league, and everybody knows that played the game. In

679
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: our time, Ron was top ten player in the league

680
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: the whole the whole time when he was locked in,

681
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: he was top ten player in the league. If you

682
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: guys go through it, y'all were the championship in d M, Yes,

683
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: I think so, oh yeah, yeah, right yeah. Because with

684
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: with with run, if they're seven games series, if you're

685
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: a player you may have to in a possible efficient game,

686
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna make you take twenty five shots

687
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: to get twenty five points. Like you done about it

688
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: like you probably would have been efficient to it in

689
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: impossible in a seven game series. Yeah, YEA made it.

690
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: Next up, we got Rashid Wallace just three year. Peak

691
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: was eighteen points for game, eight reboundsable game sixteen k

692
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: real points, FO Time All Star two thousand four, NBA

693
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: Chap nine six All Rookie. But none of that can

694
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: sum up who she Wallace was. Talk to his team

695
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: mat probably the most talented big man out to see, Man,

696
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: that you're saying something. Man, you're saying something, saying something.

697
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: Probably most talented. I don't even know what else to

698
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: add on that. Probably the most talented, skillful big man

699
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: I've ever scene. Bro, he had it all. He had

700
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: it all. And like I was talking about Vince shooting

701
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: left hand, she was the same way, bro, the same way. Man. Look,

702
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: I used to come, like going to Portland's to show

703
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: the shoot around, and we'll come on the court and

704
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: I'll see she coming off the court. She'd have on

705
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: some sweatpants and some timsone. Yeah, this man just don't

706
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 1: give a damn dog. Hec at all towards you said,

707
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: my rookie year, we played Karen Malone, Chris Webber, Kevin Garnett, Um,

708
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan and Rashid and we're on one of our

709
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: West Coast trips, and I said, you know what, Jesus

710
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: talented as any of them. It was unbelievable to see

711
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: him in person, to see how afflets the game was,

712
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: how easy it was. He wasn't even playing for numbers,

713
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: none of that, Like he was just playing to win.

714
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: And he was so cold, great team player cold. Next up,

715
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: we got Chris Webber three or P twenty five points,

716
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: eleven rebounds, five assists, seventeen thousand career points, five time

717
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: All Star, five time All NBA Rookie of the Year,

718
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: ninety nine t RB Champ four All Rookie Team in

719
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: now newly crowned Hall of Famer. One of the most

720
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: skilled bigs ever Fells without a doubt, I doubt about that,

721
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: can shoot, passing, big man, very very uh smart basketball player.

722
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: I mean Webb had it all too, Yeah he did.

723
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: Hey man, it's eats to see Webb had seventeen K.

724
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: But that makes me feel great about micro having thirteen,

725
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: because Webb was a problem to see how dominant he

726
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: was and how cool he was killing all that he

727
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: was going to get them to top for us in

728
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the league, KG Tim duncan albra sheets and still doing

729
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: work like like that. That that's had a lot of

730
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: me about about him. He held us on in the

731
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: time where the fourth spot was. He was in trouble

732
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: every night. Dog, let me tell you something about what

733
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: you ever see hands like George's head had what you

734
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: have it? Bro see where I got the biggest hands? Bro,

735
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: I thought I had some big hands. Man, that's why

736
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: he got He got sub minutes, bro, go really duncing

737
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: it right. And next up we got y'all mean. As

738
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: you know your former teammate. Three years he was tweet

739
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: one points per game, nine rebounds for game, two blocks,

740
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: eight time All Star, five time All NBA, OH three

741
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: All rookie. I was the first person to dunk on

742
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: y'all mean a preseason when he came to the league. Yeah,

743
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: that was me. I got the footage. But team Mack,

744
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: if this tea Mack, if this dude wouldn't have been hurt.

745
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: He's talking about how good he was. Man. I was

746
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: highly skilled man seven five seven five. Fellas had less

747
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: right hand, jump up and shoot the mid range eighty

748
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: five percent, eighty eight percent free throw shooter, can pass

749
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: the ball like y'all y'all had he had it all

750
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: bro on the offensive vent was unguardable. Dwight Howard next

751
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: up three year peak twenty points per game, fourteen rebounds

752
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: per game, two and a half blocks per game, nineteen

753
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: thousand career points and count. Only player ever to win

754
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year three years in a row,

755
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: eight time All Star, two time block Champ, eight time

756
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: All NBA, five time All Defense, five time rebounding Champ,

757
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: NBA Champ two thousand, four h five rookie, three time

758
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. Fellas Team MAC, you're in Orlando.

759
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: You saw this up close and personal. How good was

760
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: Dwight in his prime? And shouldn't be on the seventy five.

761
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: But that's not top seventy five dollars. That's that's a

762
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: whole book problem what we're talking about. Come on, Bro,

763
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: they did, and then he was one of the people

764
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: that I was talking about that was left off that list.

765
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: That be a top seventy five. Go stop stopping the personal,

766
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: personal attack, personal beast ye For eight years, this man

767
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: the most dominant big man in the game, most dominant

768
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: big man in the game. It's not even close, not

769
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: even close. Stop playing with this man, bro. I get,

770
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, all the personal I get all the constractions

771
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: and all that stuff when they came to basketball and

772
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: the productivity what he gave Orlando for eight solid years.

773
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: Let's top seventy five. Let's stop playing with him. Bro,

774
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Come on, man, ballot Hall of Famer. He should have

775
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: been top seventy five. Y'all given robbing all this phrase. Man,

776
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: Come on, man, man, I get upset. I get upset

777
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: over stuff like that because all that the politics come

778
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: to play, and that's all that's bullshit and you hate.

779
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: One thing I hate is they always try to bring

780
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: up the end, like what about the what about the

781
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: first fifteen years is dude, then gave you. Don't try

782
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: to bring up the end because you got something personal

783
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: with the top seventy five easy. I had no respect

784
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: for the people that left their man off the top

785
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: severy five. Notice and a lot of them was players

786
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: that was on that list that voted right, that's crazy crazy.

787
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: Next up, Agent zero two of your peak twenty eight

788
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: points per game, six assists for game four, rebounds for

789
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: game three, time All Stars out in two Tis I

790
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: was three most improved, three time All Star. About you, man,

791
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: I don't like that doesn't really say who about you was, bro,

792
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: because I know from playing against him and Tag you

793
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: can you can probably get attest to us. This dude

794
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: was a walking bucket. I'm talking about every night. And

795
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: they can say what they want. But while he was

796
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: in the league, he was basically unguardable too. It was unguardable.

797
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: It was he was quick, he was strong, and he

798
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 1: had a ratchet and he shot it and he shot

799
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: it from anywhere, and if he got hot, just just

800
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: prayed that your coach sent a double team. Yeah, you

801
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: felt like he was in an island garden, Gil, you

802
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like he was like Max said,

803
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: he was fast, he was strong, he could get to

804
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: the basket. He was a foul magnet. He was shooting

805
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: three ft behind. He's shooting game winners, turned his back,

806
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: putting his hands up like he knew what time it was.

807
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: Mantel Jordan's thought, this is how we do it. He

808
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: was just party straight like that. So to see Gil,

809
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, up close, he was so far ahead of

810
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: his time because if he was doing what he's doing now,

811
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: you could add thirty five thirty seven to what he

812
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: was doing. The alread thirty he was unbelievable. That's a

813
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: fat Gil in today's game. Oh my god, man, come up,

814
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be fat. He put up crazy now, but

815
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: Gil for he'll probably hit that seventy point mark. He

816
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: you know what he's he's he got every two in

817
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: the in the in the arsenal to do it, that's

818
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, because he not only could he shoot,

819
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, how to create fives? Yeah? Yeah, he told

820
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: me one game I was playing against him like wall

821
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: every time the bonus just dry. They gotta tell you, Damn.

822
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. I'm trying to get around

823
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: and like now just running to him, I'm like, oh

824
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: you you don't figure out all right? Gill told me that, Okay, okay,

825
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: g Hill. Next time we got Chauncey billups three or

826
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: peak seventeen points per game seven and sist three rebounds

827
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: from three. That's crazy. Seventeen year pro, just under sixteen

828
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: thousand career points, five time All Star, three time All

829
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: nb A, two time All Defensive Player, two thousand four,

830
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: NBA Champ two thousand three, two thousand four Finals MVP

831
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: and somebody I know that team Mac loves. Because we

832
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: were at his house, I asked him about big Shot.

833
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: Tell us about big Shot taunt. Billis Matt my brother man.

834
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: We played together in Toronto. I had what shot. Played

835
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: with Chauncey when I was at my prime. We both

836
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: was in our prime. He knows how to win. You're

837
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: talking about a having a coach on the basketball court

838
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: with you, you know, having you maneuver through challenging situations

839
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: like Chauncey was such a cerebral basketball player and in

840
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: such a great leader of men. Everywhere he went once

841
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: he figured it out. Everywhere he went, he wont he won,

842
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: right Uh, denver he won. He's just. He completely changes

843
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: the complexity of of a basketball team. I had the

844
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to play with a big shot and just He

845
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: was a coach on the floor. He was always a coach.

846
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: He was always coaching and teaching. I loved his demeanor.

847
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: No moment was too big. He was never too highed,

848
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: too low. He always kept a center. I believe he

849
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: was healthy. We won a championship with that Clippers team

850
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: because his cerebralness there he respect that he demanded. You know,

851
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: he was always himself, solid as they come. Still talk

852
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: to him to this day, and I'm happy see him coaching,

853
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: giving back the Nonson next generation. He's almost like a

854
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: modern day Dave Willward with how their personalities are and

855
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: how they played and how they were unflappable. So I

856
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: love to see us two together now. Yeah, Big Shot

857
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: was one of the point guards that everybody in league

858
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: wanted to play with. Everybody and everybody looked up to,

859
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: everybody respected, And I got a chance to play with

860
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: him in the Big Three. One of the most solid dudes. Uh.

861
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: And like I said, everybody saw the leader he was

862
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: even though they wasn't on his team. You know what

863
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, everybody, Dawn, I wish I had a point

864
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: guard like that because he's gonna control the game. He

865
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: kind of like Chris baul Hes gonna control the game,

866
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: whatever team or whatever game he's playing, and he's gonna

867
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: control the game. And that's one thing I respected about

868
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: Big Shot. Here how I'm not even gonna say good,

869
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: Here's how great Chaunce he is or was. Although we

870
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: view him as a solid like a point guard, a

871
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: true point guard, of being a facilitating leading the team

872
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: to trolling the tempo if he needed to get thirty

873
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: or forty, Yeah, he's gonna do it. He can do it.

874
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: I've seen it first hand. We was beating ship out

875
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: of Detroit right when I was with Orlando. My man

876
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: took upon itself. Now I've been I've been a facilitator

877
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: for these first four or five games. I need to

878
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: start scoring forty thirty eight back to back like that. Yeah,

879
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: let's not. Let's let's let's move on to his teammate,

880
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: my classmate. Uh, somebody who I've seen do work for

881
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: a long time. He had three year peaka twenty points

882
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: per game for assist per game for a rebound, fourteen

883
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: year pro, just under sixteen k career points, three time

884
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: All Star two thousand four NBA Champ. A lot of

885
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: players talk about how he was one of the most

886
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: hardest players to guard. Uh, nobody was in shape like this, brother,

887
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about real Hamilton's the mask Mac. What you

888
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: remember our match ups with the Mask Rip Rip City.

889
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: The most conditioned player on the court. Yes, the man.

890
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: I know he ran about eight miles to miles to

891
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: the game. Slow down, bro, stop running off the each screen, bro,

892
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: like like like, is it worth it is it worth

893
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: it this shoot all this gas just to get to

894
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: just just tell them to give you the ball so

895
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: you can like we get a couple of dribbles in

896
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: the ice and I can guard you that way. Oh,

897
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: don't have me running through Ben Wallace and Rashid Wallace

898
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: to get your shot off. Bro, remember that play in

899
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: my scalp though. I was at my scout when I

900
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: heard a truth dress coming down across the You take

901
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: rip this time, go Tashawn. Listen. Thank God for Tayshawn

902
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: being on that team so I can go out and

903
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: because chasing Rip down. Hey, d A, you gotta Bro,

904
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: You and job y'all handle that assignment. Man, y'all got that, man.

905
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: That's that's why. That's that's so impressive for a guy

906
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: to move like that for forty two minutes a game

907
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: a game right and think about what Step is doing

908
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: right now right and still have the fisial seat to

909
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: shoot the ball like that in the fourth quarter. Yeah, man,

910
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: that's credible. And Step is shooting it from further right

911
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: like Brief was running around getting tired during the midway range.

912
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: That's doing it. Hey, give me in the condition drill,

913
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: have me do three downy backs and shooting three outside.

914
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: Ain't no way, no way, next man. We got their teammates.

915
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: This is going down the Pistons line. Bill Wallace eight

916
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: points per game, fourteen rebounds per game, three block shots

917
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: are still and a half a game. One of the

918
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: two players who won Defensive Player of the Year four

919
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: times with Mountain Mottember four time All Star two thousand one,

920
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: two thousand two, Block Champ, five time All NBA, four

921
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: time Defensive Player of the Year or two times Rebounding

922
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Champ two thousand four NBA Champ, six time All Defensive

923
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: Team Hall of Famer out of Virginia Union Fellas. We

924
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: made him so good on defense. They say you can

925
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: pull and plug you know, different guys, and the team

926
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: would still go that that that same way. Not one

927
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace bro you took. You take Ben Walllace off

928
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: that team and try to plug somebody else in. I

929
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: don't give a damn who it is it. Don't move

930
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: that train. Don't move the same way. At that particular

931
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: time where Detroit was, you know, dominant in the Eastern

932
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: Conference for what about four or five, five years, maybe

933
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: even six years. I might be needing some out, but

934
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: he was such a dominant force on the defensive. Being

935
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: bro he was intimidating to some people. He was intimidating,

936
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, although being is probably six six six seven

937
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: bout six six six seven man. He was a He

938
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: was a great rint protector. He wasn't going to allow anything,

939
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, easy at the basket. He controlling the boards.

940
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: He's setting me screens and he's gonna check his teammates.

941
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: Ben was tough. It's only it's only one person that

942
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: I really seen make Ben look like he was supposed

943
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: to be out there, and that was Tim Duncan. Tim

944
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Duncan was giving him the blues. We're talking about the

945
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: greatest for all time. I know, but it's gonna Hey,

946
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna tell somebody like Tim Duncan to do that

947
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: to Ben Wallace, right, Yeah, as as a big man.

948
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: As a big man, if you're a guard, a prayer

949
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: to player, he don't want to shoot, he's gonna do

950
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: all the dirty work, get all the blocks, three bounds

951
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: and give you the ball and say screens. Make him always.

952
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: I get some I get some dough to stay with me, Like,

953
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: come on, man, you're gonna make me better. You make

954
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: the team guard the shack one on one, Bro, Bro,

955
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: think about it. He was on the offensive end, Bro,

956
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: and they still competed for championships. He's a lot of thing. Yeah,

957
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: it's all of favor. That's crazy. That shows his impact,

958
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: shows his impact. Any big man that can guard shack

959
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: one on one for a whole series. Man, you deserve it.

960
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: Dog and win and win. Yeah, the chip though not

961
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: not not the chip Dog come and go to check

962
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: straight up pretty much. That's ultimate warrior man and come off. Man.

963
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: Are we going through seventy people right now? No? Last

964
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: one right here? This last Max, having fun with this,

965
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: the last one. This is the last one, Matt. We're

966
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna finish up with Elton Brand. Three year peak twenty one,

967
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: ten rebounds for game, two blocks for games just at

968
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: the seventeen K points. It was eighteen and nine all

969
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: of his first eight seasons. Two times All Star, nineteen

970
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: ninety nine, two thousand, All Rookie, Rookie of the Year, Rookie,

971
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: and All NBA two thousand five or six. B was

972
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: a problem talking about eb Rec with eb is another

973
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: cat with them, big mittens, bro, big hands, big body.

974
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: Just he just knew how to play the game, and

975
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He knew how to use

976
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: his body to get his shot off, group on the boards,

977
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: like he controlled the boards, like he long arms, like

978
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: b was a problem. Like he was a twenty and

979
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: ten dude. We had many of those. He was. He

980
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: was in that class of a twenty and ten type

981
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: guy and he was doing the rookie I came into

982
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: Chicago right after his rookie year, and I remember the

983
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: marketing department had a brand of soap and they said

984
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: Elton brand, like it looked like it was tied. And

985
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: he said, the brand you could depend on twenty and ten.

986
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: He was getting twenty and the brand depend on twenty

987
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: year regardless he was before the game. Now, he absolutely

988
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: was a problem. People have no idea. He became a

989
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: monster as well when he went to the Clippers before injury. Uh,

990
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: he was just a problem with somebody that's underappreciated. And

991
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: I talked about enough. Now that's real. You go ahead

992
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: before the game even start, go ahead and put it

993
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: on and ten in the books for real. Absolutely, Hey,

994
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: that well, that's it, mana mac Man. We appreciate you

995
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: for coming on man, working with us and giving your

996
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: opinion on the forgot to say any five, Man, I

997
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: feel like you should have been in the top seventy

998
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: five dollar play against not just because you're my brother,

999
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: because I know what you've done for the game, and

1000
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: when all his peers know he belonged in seventy five. Yeah,

1001
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: that Max wanted the coldest to ever touch your basketball.

1002
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: Like you talked about the hand drill or something he

1003
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: brought to the game, it will be felt fraternity because

1004
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: you can't be unguardable if you don't have the hand drill.

1005
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: Besides that, Mac is artist, and we're thankful for him, bro,

1006
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: because he's he's something different. I don't know if he

1007
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: knows how cold he truly is and was and everything

1008
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: he's doing O b L it's just as cold. So

1009
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: we're excited about Obo as well. Mac. I just love

1010
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: the game. Man, work my ass off, and you know

1011
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: it was God given talent. I just you know, put

1012
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: the work into and hence that. So I appreciate the

1013
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: compliments fellas you already know. And once again welcome. Welcome

1014
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: to Showtime Family Man, the O b L League. Welcome

1015
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: to Showtime Family Man. We're looking great, We're looking to

1016
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: be a part of it. Gonna be a great weekend

1017
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: in New York with the O B L League and

1018
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: also the Javante was Fight. So I'm looking forward to

1019
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: see you there, my boy. Yes, sir, Man, I see

1020
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: y'all this week. I appreciate fellas Matt. There were so

1021
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: many guys that we wanted to have on the Forgotten

1022
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: list for the two thousand's. Man, it's just we have

1023
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: time to go through all of them and a lot

1024
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: of guys that we want to show love to and

1025
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: give flowers to. Man, we appreciate your tuning in man,

1026
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: Jamal Man. Has been a great day, Bro. I love working,

1027
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: which I don't know how I get through it because

1028
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: you make me laugh so much. Bro. But you know

1029
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We give them what they want, don't we. Hey,

1030
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: every time, we can't disappointed because you know we did

1031
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: of the people, show time and pride. Baby. Closing thoughts,

1032
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: Lakers head coach search Juwan Howard declines the interview we

1033
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: got Darvin Ham, Kenny Atkinson, Terry Stotts, note Sterry stots

1034
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: Kenny Adkins and don't do it. Don't do it, Lakers,

1035
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: don't do it. Darvin Ham. Yeah, he deserves the opportunity.

1036
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: What you think about their coaching search, man, I think

1037
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: about Juwan Decline and says a lot, but I know

1038
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: he want to stay with his son at Michigan. That

1039
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: makes sense. But these other guys that are talking about

1040
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: just a whole bunch of other names out there, Bron

1041
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: know who they're going back to, the same recycled coaches. Yeah,

1042
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: my my vote be Darvin Him. I think as a player,

1043
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: he's an o G in the league. Somebody lebron a

1044
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: D and the rest of the crew russell those guys

1045
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: with respect. Uh, he's a champion. As an assistant, he's

1046
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: a champion, I believe. As a player with the Pistons,

1047
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: I think he just has a lot to give, a

1048
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: lot to bring to the table. I think he brings

1049
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: fresh energy and as you know, Jack looking at Willie Green,

1050
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: you know, looking at Monty Williams, looking at Tlucy, and

1051
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Speaker 1: these players become coaches and the way players look at them,

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Speaker 1: I think bos well for the future. So if I'm them,

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Speaker 1: I'm going d him. I'm going Darwin Him. He gets

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Speaker 1: my vote to be a Lakers next head coach. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think that would be good. And even

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Speaker 1: Mark Jackson deserves another opportunity. Man, Absolutely, absolutely. I don't

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Speaker 1: even understand why they keep recycling these same coaches, even

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Speaker 1: with you know, we're not even talking about him, even

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Speaker 1: with Charlotte. You know they're trying to bring in No

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Speaker 1: forget who they're gonna say, stat, would you coach Charlotte?

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, would you coach Charlotte? Will?

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Speaker 1: I know you got time in Charlotte? If that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying? Would you coach Charlotte? If they said stack,

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Speaker 1: we gotta what your deal for you? Can you get

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Speaker 1: us to the playoffs and beyond next year? Could you

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Speaker 1: do it? I'm gonna say I'm of course, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say yes. I'm not gonna say no, I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: But you're a champion, jack I think you could do it.

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Speaker 1: M J. What's up? How that's that? Honestly, dude, I

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Speaker 1: would I would love the coach because I played there,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And right I believe myself

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Speaker 1: do anything. But back to the Lakers, man, Zach Lavaine

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Speaker 1: free agent? Um, what you think he's gonna do? Them all?

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Speaker 1: If I had to bet one way or another, I

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Speaker 1: would say he just not go back to Chicago. I

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Speaker 1: think Zach is kind of where he's that. I haven't

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Speaker 1: talked to him. I have no inside information, but just

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Speaker 1: watching from afar, I think he may have you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll grow in that situation a little bit. Yes, they

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Speaker 1: have success, but I don't know. I just if I

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Speaker 1: had to bet, just watching it, I would say he

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Speaker 1: just not go back to Chicago. That a lot of

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Speaker 1: people thinking that. Man. But two things Lakers, Darvin hamm

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Speaker 1: is a good a good option, even Mark Jackson Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: Don't hide Dan Phoni, Please don't hide Mike dann Poni.

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Speaker 1: He is the worst thing you'll ever do. You see

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Speaker 1: what he'd done it everywhere else, nothing but Zach. Do

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Speaker 1: I want to see him on the Lakers or don't

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Speaker 1: want to see him somewhere else with with with A,

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Speaker 1: with a with a bigger role. But you want to

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Speaker 1: see Jack I mean, he's electrifying, he's young, he's right

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the prime of his career. What

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Speaker 1: do you want to see? I think I want to

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Speaker 1: see him with other stars. M that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see the other stars. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to see him with a with a big role.

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Speaker 1: Where he got to carry a team. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think, even though I think he could, I think

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Speaker 1: with other stars, you get more out of him. That

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Speaker 1: makes sense. He's electrifying, obviously. People are still learning about him.

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Speaker 1: They learned about him with the Olympics. They learned about

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Speaker 1: him in the playoffs this year. He was a little

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Speaker 1: banged up obviously, But I'm with you. I would love

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Speaker 1: to see him, uh with with more stars than just one.

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Speaker 1: No disrespect to Devo the roles and he was unbelievable

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Speaker 1: in the m VP conversation, but I would like to

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Speaker 1: see him with with some younger stars and a few

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Speaker 1: of them to kind of pair together. What's Brandon is

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Speaker 1: Peace m HM.