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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: ros Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different

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Speaker 1: definitions of success. For you and may be the size

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Speaker 1: of your paycheck. Mine has inspired people to accomplish their

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Speaker 1: goals and live their very best life. It's time to

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Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start writing your own.

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Speaker 1: People always talk about purpose or gifts. If you have

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Speaker 1: a gift, leave with your gift and don't let your friends, family,

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Speaker 1: or corework can stop you from planning or living your dreams.

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Speaker 1: My guests as actor, comedian, and social activists Earthquake. He

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Speaker 1: has built a strong fan base and stand up comedy

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Speaker 1: with numerous solo shows, film and TV appearances, and comedy specials.

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Speaker 1: He has recurred, guest starred appeared on numerous popular shows,

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Speaker 1: including the CBS sitcom The Neighborhood. Earthquake also holds the

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Speaker 1: radio show Quakes House on Serious XM Radio Kevin Heart's

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Speaker 1: Laugh Out Law Radio Channel ninety six. But he's on

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Speaker 1: the show because you can catch Earthquake in his stand

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Speaker 1: alone headlining comedy special, Chappelle's Home Team Earthquake Legendary, streaming

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Speaker 1: right now on Netflix. Please welcome the Money Making Conversation Masterclass.

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Speaker 1: The one and only Earthquake. Hey, how are you doing? Brother? Brother? Brother?

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Speaker 1: Well you know some man earthquake. Um. First of all, Um,

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Speaker 1: I can I can start now and talk about the

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Speaker 1: comedy special that that's right now streaming on Netflix. And

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Speaker 1: when I saw it it featured in the trade magazines.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that the special had already been taped

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Speaker 1: last summer. So talk about the sequence of how that

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Speaker 1: happened and then it was announced coming out in the spring. Um.

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Speaker 1: I got a call from my agent and she said,

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Speaker 1: the president of a comedy for next Flix one of

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Speaker 1: my number soon. He can give it today because Dave

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Speaker 1: and Netflix has came to a verbal agreement, uh to

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Speaker 1: produce my special. I said sure. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: a prank. Uh you know, I said, show And then

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Speaker 1: ten minutes later Dave called me and said he wanted

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Speaker 1: to produce my special. So that's how it came to fruition. Cool. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you look at your career, I can, um, you

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Speaker 1: know my career as a personal relationship. They've they've described

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Speaker 1: a personal story about you at this comedy club. My

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Speaker 1: personal story. I met you at your comedy club, and uh,

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Speaker 1: when I would just tell y'all, he wore me out,

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Speaker 1: took me out. Let me know, this is Quake's house

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. Had me go back to my hotel

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Speaker 1: room looking at my little comedy routine. But you're rewriting jokes.

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Speaker 1: But he was just doing when he was doing. Because

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Speaker 1: I heard about it. I walked in there with my

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Speaker 1: credits because see Dave Chappelle. Man, he said it right. Man,

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Speaker 1: you are a legendary man and you're funny, but you're

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Speaker 1: good brother at heart, at heart, you know, because it's

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Speaker 1: all it's like, um mean the Jerry Rice at Rob Receiver.

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Speaker 1: If you Rob Receiver coming in, you look over there,

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Speaker 1: you see earthquake. You go. You can walk around and

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Speaker 1: ignore him, but in a minute, if you ignore him,

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Speaker 1: he gonna let you know who he will, who he is.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened to me at his comedy club. I

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Speaker 1: show the respect. But that's been a testament of your

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Speaker 1: entire career that people who may not know you, but

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Speaker 1: Correct Earthquake yes, I mean because I just believed let

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Speaker 1: the work speak for itself. There's nothing else. I always

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Speaker 1: felt in our profession that stage is an equalizer. The

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Speaker 1: work speak for himself. Now. One of my tastes and

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Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite jokes man you did

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Speaker 1: I know it's a stand up comedy comic. At one

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Speaker 1: some point it's just like a college degree. It's like

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Speaker 1: they ask me how you do it, I said, it's like,

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Speaker 1: it's just like being in the hood. Man, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's the truth that blomed, that blossom into a big lie. Right.

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Speaker 1: I was fighting this one dude, man, and then by

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Speaker 1: So that's my philosophy. It always start from a grain,

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Speaker 1: up comic man, it is really um an interesting craft.

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Speaker 1: It's a very lonely craft. A lot of people think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a stand up you're happy all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know you you run abound just making everybody laugh.

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Speaker 1: But really, can you explain to people the world of

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Speaker 1: have to how we see things, which sometimes it's good

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Speaker 1: and bad because sometimes we see too much. Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell anybody if you if you don't like yourself, this

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Speaker 1: gonna spend a lot of time with yourself. It's like golf, man,

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Speaker 1: can nobody else walk? Is? Uh walk these greens? But

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Speaker 1: you um and but it's such rewarding man Sean, It's

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Speaker 1: a rewarding profession just to see these people because look

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Speaker 1: at people. We're mental health providers. Um we we especially

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Speaker 1: for our community. We change perspective of people because you know,

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Speaker 1: when you had your club and they're coming in. Man

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Speaker 1: So you gotta get the uninvited attention, then break through

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Speaker 1: hell of the obstacle, man, especially for our people. They're

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Speaker 1: but the most reward fulfilling. We know, like uh, the

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Speaker 1: word sold out. I'm talking about audiences. Audiences, you know

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Speaker 1: that brother, we've added the show. Talk about that feeling, man, Um,

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Speaker 1: it's the best feeling, second to having your channel. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's validation. People actually took their harder money stop

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Speaker 1: you when Steve, that shows that you actually matters in

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Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You know the thing, uh, I

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Speaker 1: I said, this boy of food, this boy crazy, which

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of work. Yeah, there's a lot of research.

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Speaker 1: Her name and stars, she's one of the greatest person

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Speaker 1: that handles my thing for me. We sit down, she

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Speaker 1: knows my voice of course, no my voice, and together

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Speaker 1: we uh we uh. We get together and say this

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Speaker 1: doing this? Se and you know, to get that reaction

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Speaker 1: And it was one of the reasons you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: people see talent like you. They see the end results,

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Speaker 1: they don't see the work. They think that you stopped working.

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Speaker 1: They think that you just focused on this, but really

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Speaker 1: it's a three sixty that you're doing. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: you're an actor you're a comedian, your social activit which

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Speaker 1: able to communicate tell us about your radio show. You

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Speaker 1: even to take phone calls, you play music. What is

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