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Speaker 2: It's our one on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan

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Speaker 2: Nets Dan Patrick Show, Our starting lineup, our Fab five

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Speaker 2: flab five Wait a second, not for long. Yeah, everybody's

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Speaker 2: gonna get in shape for the jacked Off contest that

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Speaker 2: we're going to have. Is there a deadline for this?

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Speaker 2: What's the timeframe? Is this starting now?

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Speaker 3: And then?

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Speaker 2: Is this maybe when we get to Notre Dame USC

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Speaker 2: or we go to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: I think we're pushing the finish line to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that would be in November.

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Speaker 4: That would be November.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a Formula one race, and I thought, you

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Speaker 2: know what, let me get outside my comfort zone here

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Speaker 2: a little bit, not going to Vegas, but going to

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Speaker 2: Vegas and having Formula one. I thought, you know what,

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Speaker 2: let's be part of the beautiful people and maybe let's

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Speaker 2: try to do that. Got friends at Fountain Blue, it

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Speaker 2: took care of us at the Super Bowl, and thought,

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Speaker 2: you know what, maybe we go out there, maybe we

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Speaker 2: go out to Formula one, maybe we get dressed up.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Polly, that was my concern. Do we have f

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Speaker 6: one clothing in our wardrobes? They dressed pretty smooth over there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I need one of those like Jesse Palmer, collarless

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Speaker 4: leather jackets. I feel like that just has like the

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Speaker 4: snap over here. He can wear that well.

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Speaker 2: Yes he can, Yeah, Marvin, I think can do style.

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Speaker 2: You start from the ground up. That's where fashion starts from.

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Speaker 2: Always from the ground up. You always have a great

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Speaker 2: shoe collection. I'm ready for Vegas, Okay, So I think

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Speaker 2: that's November and then October is Notre Dame USC. But

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Speaker 2: in the meantime, I don't know how we're going to

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Speaker 2: gauge who's in better shape or who lost weight or

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Speaker 2: body fat, whatever it is. All of a sudden, we

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Speaker 2: decided that everybody is going to get in shape.

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Speaker 3: Is that right? Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 6: The question over here is looking at us. Is three

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Speaker 6: months enough time to get jacked? Because that's about what

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Speaker 6: it is till three months, three months, two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you and Seaton have a head start

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Speaker 2: because you guys have been.

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Speaker 3: Already pretty jacked.

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course, yes, yes, you guys have been pretty regimented.

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Speaker 2: Cutting down on alcohol. I don't know if you're watching

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Speaker 2: what you're eating, but you're cut down on alcohol. Marvin

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Speaker 2: has been working out, todd says he takes a walk

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Speaker 2: every day.

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Speaker 5: I've been watching Marvin work out a very good job.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we'll I'm not sure how we measure this.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing of who would be the winner

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Speaker 2: of the jacked off contest?

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Speaker 3: Here? Who is jacked Yes, marmon.

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Speaker 7: Do we take before and after photos?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: No, like naked, look like Tom Brady at the combine?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, combine photos in our underwear?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 6: Can we get a month to get ready for the

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Speaker 6: free photo.

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Speaker 5: Looking good?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then we'll get a sponsorship. We'll get it to

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Speaker 2: you know, somebody to M drive will sponsor this.

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Speaker 3: We'll bring them back. Yeah, We'll get.

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Speaker 2: Some kind of fitness you know, health club that's going

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Speaker 2: to get involved in this.

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Speaker 3: And that's Marvin.

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Speaker 4: Put the M and M drive.

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Speaker 3: Come on our drive, Marvin put the M and.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 7: one okay, already damn give us.

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Speaker 3: Pandora if we go to Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Eton, there's.

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Speaker 4: Almost a Sweeney Sisters quality to that song by Pandora.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember the Sweeney Sisters.

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Speaker 2: I do not.

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Speaker 4: It was a Saturday night live bit with Jane Curtin

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Speaker 4: and somebody else, and they were like like lounge singers

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Speaker 4: of these Simon and Garfunkel songs. Yeah, and it is hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Pandora's got some of those Sweeney Sisters qualities, guest un

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Speaker 4: Jan Hooks and Nora Dunne.

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Speaker 8: That's very silly, awesome lounge at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, welcome to the program. Already in

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Speaker 2: progress by the way, and uh, you know, we were wondering,

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Speaker 2: what is the lead story today? You do have training

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Speaker 2: campy and Rapaport of NFL Network will join us coming up,

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson back with the Bengals but still unsigned, Baseball

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Speaker 2: trade deadline tomorrow. Otani's going to be pitching tonight. And

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Speaker 2: then we thought, well, you know, the real lead is

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Speaker 2: probably Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson are dating because they're

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Speaker 2: starting in the re of Naked Gun or is it

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Speaker 2: a I don't know, is it a remake of Naked

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Speaker 2: Naked Gun? When was the last Naked Gun with Leslie Nielsen?

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Speaker 2: And we've seen these separations here with Top Gun and

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Speaker 2: Maverick Happy Gilmore Happy Gilmore too, and Naked Gun.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin Thing was the Naked Gun thirty three and

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Speaker 7: the third Yes Anna Nicole Smith with the love interest.

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Speaker 3: Of Leslie Nielsen. I think, so, yeah, okay, yes, Paul.

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Speaker 6: Is this Pamela Anderson Liam Neeson thing real? I saw

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Speaker 2: Sources, I think No. I don't have sources on it,

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Speaker 2: Today Show, and I don't, you know, sometimes you act

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Speaker 2: lovey dovey, you know. I think Sydney Sweeney and Glenn

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Speaker 2: Powell did that. They were in a movie and they

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Speaker 2: were both in relationships, but they were very love They

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Speaker 2: were selling it and I don't know it fell of

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Speaker 2: were selling it a little too well. I think Leslie

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Speaker 3: There was a picture where Pam had her sons there

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Speaker 3: and Liam Neeson had his sons there, and they're both single,

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Speaker 3: and it just felt like there was there was something

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Speaker 3: going on, felt like there were some sparks going on there. Yes, unt,

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Speaker 3: I will hunt you down.

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Speaker 5: I will find you, and I will take you out

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Speaker 5: to dinner.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: That's how he got her.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he did that taken voice?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Todd does that voice occasionally, just walks around nobody

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Speaker 2: in particular that he's speaking to, and then he'll do

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Speaker 2: his Leslie.

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Speaker 3: I always say, Leslie, Liam Neeson, why don't we.

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Speaker 8: Grab some coffee sometime, perhaps this evening.

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Speaker 3: I will hunt you down and I will kill you

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Speaker 3: the chicken.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but good for every time you see Pam Anderson,

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Speaker 2: it feels like every picture says make up free Pam Anderson.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 3: I saw her in the Last show Girl, and she

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Speaker 3: was really good in that movie.

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Speaker 2: It's it's about a showgirl in Las Vegas and she's

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Speaker 2: getting old. They're gonna stop doing the showgirl performances. And

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Speaker 2: I thought she came off very well. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 2: you don't. I don't think you think Pam as a

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Speaker 2: really good and good for her if she found love.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't she married to somebody for like forty eight hours?

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Speaker 9: Some was it?

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Speaker 2: Robert Evans, The movie executive. I think she went to

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Speaker 2: see Julian Assange. Is that his name.

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Speaker 4: I think at the time he was known as the

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Speaker 4: luckiest man in the world for forty eight hours. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: but the Weekender I think they called it. Well, he

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You don't have to get married, Yeah yeah, just.

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Speaker 4: Get married on a Friday, devo on a Monday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Hey, no harm, no foul. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: bet you just go out, you know what.

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Speaker 4: It was fun while it lasted, and then that's it.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, I'm trying to find a hard news report,

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Speaker 6: no pun intended. Liam Neeson's seventy three years old, she's

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Speaker 6: fifty eight. I found nothing on NPR or BBC. But

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Speaker 6: I did find People magazine report.

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Speaker 3: That's my bible.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 6: Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson are dating. It's clear there's

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Speaker 6: smitten exclusive source to People.

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Speaker 4: But then you had Martin Short and you had uh,

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Speaker 4: the great actress Selena Gomes No, no, not her, but she's.

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Speaker 3: In that series. No, who's the greatest female on Eryl Street? Yes,

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Speaker 3: Meryl Street.

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Speaker 5: Their getting that for it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that's the description. I think they're dating.

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Speaker 2: Like I think she got divorced and I think her

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Speaker 2: they met on only Murders in the building and they're

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Speaker 2: going out with each other. I believe they are going

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Speaker 2: out with each other. That's hot, although I read where

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Speaker 2: they're right now going through a rough patch.

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Speaker 5: But all right, let it breathe a little bit, let's

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Speaker 5: get into it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but yeah, I think uh Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson,

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Speaker 2: they're they're getting after it. Well, like I said, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what that means, or have you ever been smitten? God,

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Speaker 2: you strike me as you're smitten just about every night

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Speaker 2: when you watch local newscasts.

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Speaker 5: Four a week, something I got just my eye gets

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Speaker 5: me sweat.

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Speaker 3: And nobody watches more local news than Fritzy.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Rachel Frank, Fox sixty one News.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tod. All righty, So we're just getting started here,

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Speaker 3: and do we have a poll question to start seton?

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Speaker 4: We do? I think we're doing that after the break.

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Speaker 5: No, we need to dice.

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Speaker 4: We need to digest some of the news that we've

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Speaker 2: Okay talking about here, Okay, all right, DraftKings just sent

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Speaker 3: That is a I would make room in my trophy case.

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Speaker 2: If I'm Otani, I would say to my hun got

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Speaker 3: That would give him four. I believe, yes, Pauline.

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Speaker 2: But you can frame the box score July twenty nine

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Speaker 2: Lucas and Texas leads us off this morning. Hi, Luke,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Hey to and good morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 12: Very temporarily, Lucas and Kentucky are some work and then

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's a real effect that he has, even

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Speaker 8: But the other thing, I know.

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Speaker 12: There's been discussion about Rob Manfred and some of the

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Speaker 12: It's a noticeably better effect and I wish more people

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Lucas. Yeah, and I spoke about Rob Manfred

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Speaker 3: And I'd like to know more.

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Speaker 2: We've invited both on and because I know going in

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Speaker 2: Would Bryce Harper say that if it was just the

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Speaker 3: I mentioned show.

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Speaker 2: Hey u Tani struck out in each of his first

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Speaker 2: four plate appearances. Dodgers beat the Reds. That's the first

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Speaker 2: time he's done that in nine hundred and eighty one

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds. We uh were talking earlier before the show

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Speaker 2: Some players give themselves a nickname. Travis Hunter is called

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Speaker 2: We have different players, I think who have been called

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Speaker 6: Travis, we got to come up with a nickname for

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Speaker 6: you us nobody does.

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Speaker 3: What you do is the unicorn.

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Speaker 6: Dad, get it out there and get some posters and

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Speaker 9: That kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna ill see what I could do.

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Speaker 5: I like the Unicorn.

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Speaker 9: I'm selling the machine though, because you play all those plays,

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Speaker 14: Think you can play them all?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I definitely think I could play them all. If I

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Speaker 2: I think he was called that in college, and uh

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Speaker 2: eighty percent, twenty percent. How do you use him? Can

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Speaker 2: Let's see how well he plays, Let's see how well

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Speaker 2: I just I don't want him splitting and I don't

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Speaker 2: be an unbelievable start to his career. I'm surprised there

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Speaker 8: We have good.

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Speaker 10: Process, okay, And if you just told me Friday night

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Speaker 3: That's Andrew Berry's call. Andrew made the call to pick Shador, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now it felt I thought too when I heard that

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Speaker 2: That you're not a smart football guy. Did you make

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Speaker 3: But this is on Andrew Berry, your GM. He made

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Speaker 3: the call with Shadoor Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Now I was told differently, But the owner is telling

444
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Speaker 2: you because I think that there was a phone call

445
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Speaker 2: or two made without getting too specific about this, to

446
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Speaker 2: nudge Jimmy Haslam to take Shador Sanders, and I think

447
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Speaker 2: that's what happened. But and look, if they get one

448
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Speaker 2: of these courts, nobody's talking about Dylan Gabriel and he

449
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Speaker 2: was taken before Shadoor Sanders and had a decorated college

450
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Speaker 2: career here, far more decorated than Shaudor. But you know,

451
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: there's the possibility that shud Or Sanders could be the

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Speaker 2: quarterback for them. I don't think if you emerge as

453
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Speaker 2: the starting quarterback, it's Kenny Pickett, it's a forty year

454
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Speaker 2: old Joe Flacco, and Dylan Gabriel. I mean, it's not

455
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Speaker 2: exactly Marino and Elway and Jim Kelly. But you know,

456
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Speaker 2: it feels like Shaudor Sanders has some obstacles in front

457
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Speaker 2: of him that his name helped him, but his name

458
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Speaker 2: is hurting him a little bit because we're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's see how great you are, and we saw how

460
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Speaker 2: far he slipped. But the only thing I can go

461
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Speaker 2: on is my source told me that he's acted mature.

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Speaker 2: Aside from the speeding tickets that when he's he's on

463
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Speaker 2: the football field, he's business. It's it's not there's no

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Speaker 2: sense of entitlement. I don't know what that means. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how that translates to can you play on Sunday?

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

467
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Speaker 2: And when people say, well, you got the Sanders name,

468
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Speaker 2: he's not an athlete like his dad. He's just not.

469
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Speaker 2: He's a drop back, pocket passer. He's not going to

470
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Speaker 2: beat you with his legs. I'm told that he is

471
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Speaker 2: more athletic than people are giving him credit for. I said, well,

472
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Speaker 2: the problem is his dad is one of the great

473
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Speaker 2: athletes who's ever played the game. But by all accounts,

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Speaker 2: it feels like he is ingratiating himself to his teammates.

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Speaker 2: And that's really important. But I just want to know,

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Speaker 2: can you play on Sunday?

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: And it still feels like Joe Flacco is going to

479
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Speaker 2: be a starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, Like that's

480
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Speaker 2: the safe pick, that's where I would go because we're

481
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Speaker 2: talking about cam Ward. Is cam Ward going to be

482
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Speaker 2: ready for the Titans? He has to be, but Shador

483
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to be ready or Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett's

484
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Speaker 2: battling an injury, but it might be Joe Flacco, and

485
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco might give you a better chance of winning

486
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Speaker 2: because you get all that experience. I mean, he's a

487
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Speaker 2: pocket passer as well. And I'm not sure if they

488
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Speaker 2: have a game plan. Great, because they have two first

489
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Speaker 2: round picks next year. I want to know how much

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Speaker 2: time they'll give Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders to see

491
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Speaker 2: if they can actually play starting quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Because if you remember, Colin Cowherd had the speculation, I

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Speaker 2: can't say it's a report that the Browns would maybe

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Speaker 2: bring in Nick Saban and then draft arch Manning. Well,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Haslam, the Browns owner, was talking about arch Manning.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tony, you know, you're.

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Speaker 10: In the business and you get paid by how many

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Speaker 10: hits you get, Okay, And I think if you know

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Speaker 10: the Manning family, I would bet that.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know Arts at all.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I bet he stays in college two years, So

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Speaker 10: I don't even think that's worth discussing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's the way I feel. Arch Manning is going

504
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Speaker 3: to play two more years.

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Speaker 2: That it's not so Nick Saban's going to wait two

506
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Speaker 2: more years for arch Manning and then you've got to

507
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Speaker 2: make sure you draft him. It just seemed, you know,

508
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Speaker 2: like a long shot that any of those possibilities could happen,

509
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Speaker 2: you know, and maybe maybe Shoud or Sanders or Dylan

510
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Speaker 2: Gabriel is his starting quarterback and you could turn your

511
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Speaker 2: attention to somebody else. I don't think the Browns are

512
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Speaker 2: going to be that good. I think the over under

513
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Speaker 2: might be five wins, five and a half wins. I

514
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Speaker 2: think the team to keep an eye on being bad.

515
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Speaker 3: The Giants.

516
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Speaker 2: Feels like the Giant season hinges on Malik Neighbors staying healthy,

517
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Speaker 2: and then there was a report yesterday where he got

518
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Speaker 2: banged up a little bit. You can't lose him because

519
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Speaker 2: they got a tough schedule. You're in that division and

520
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Speaker 2: you've got three quarterbacks, two quarterbacks. You know, Jackson Dart

521
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Speaker 2: is he going to play? You got Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like, and look at their schedule when

523
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Speaker 2: you pull up their schedule, PAULI, because the Giants could

524
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Speaker 2: be like one in eight, maybe you know, one in seven,

525
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Speaker 2: something like two and seven to start out, because it's

526
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Speaker 2: pretty tough sledding for the Giants right out of the gate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Giants are at the Commander's at Dallas, host

528
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Speaker 6: the Chiefs, hosted, Chargers at the Saints. Little break than Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all better teams. It's pretty tough.

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Speaker 2: You could know where the Giants stand after around nine games,

531
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Speaker 2: and it feels like it's make or break for that coach.

532
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Speaker 2: Maybe the front office there what happened with Saquon Barkley?

533
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Speaker 2: You get you know, you take Jackson Dart? Is he

534
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Speaker 2: going to play this year? Are they even going to

535
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: be around to help develop him? But that schedule is

536
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Speaker 2: pretty tough. I think it's one of the top five

537
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Speaker 2: toughest schedules in the NFL. Yes, Paully and Elik neighbors

538
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: for the Giants last year. One of the most targeted

539
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Speaker 2: rookies in NFL history. He started thirteen games, one hundred

540
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Speaker 2: and seventy targets. He caught one hundred and nine balls

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Speaker 2: for seven touchdowns. He's a great player, great player, But

542
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Speaker 2: is Rusher starting quarterback? And how long till Jackson Dart?

543
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Speaker 2: Do you wait until maybe the season is a wash

544
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Speaker 2: and then you bring in Jackson Dart and then you

545
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Speaker 2: start to see what you have to build for the

546
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Speaker 2: future because it feels like the Giants could be the

547
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Speaker 2: worst team in the NFL. They're at least in the conversation,

548
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Speaker 2: and that's not a conversation you want to be involved

549
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: in yet, Paul, going back.

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Speaker 6: To Cleveland, Shandor Sanders started fifty games in college. Dylan

551
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Speaker 6: Gabriel started sixty four games in college. He played six

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Speaker 6: college seasons.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys with the COVID years, you know, they

555
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: put up, you know, big numbers as far as starts,

556
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: and that's you know, that's a great sample size. But

557
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: I haven't heard much about Dylan Gabriel. But part of

558
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Speaker 2: that is he might be performing better than Shadover Sanders,

559
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: but Shadover Sanders is going to get the coverage so

560
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: much so he's getting more coverage than Travis Hunter, who

561
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: is going to be a legitimate maybe every down player, incredible,

562
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: and the unicorn. He wants to be called the unicorn.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine, good, good, you know, yeah, Pauling.

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Speaker 6: We're working on some how about the hybrid you get

565
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 6: a car deal. I don't think anyone's been called the hybrid. Okay,

566
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Speaker 6: covers both things.

567
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Speaker 3: Okay, Todd, you got any nickname suggestions?

568
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Speaker 5: Hey, don't have anything great yet, but I'll continue to

569
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Speaker 5: think about it. Okay, I don't want to force it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you don't wait till later. I'm going to guess

571
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Speaker 2: in the next ten minutes, you'll probably have some realis.

572
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Speaker 9: Thank you.

573
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I'm good to guess.

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Speaker 2: Alan Hershey, Pennsylvania High Al. What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

576
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Speaker 3: How Glenn in San Diego? Hi, Glenn, what's on your

577
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: mind today?

578
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 9: Damn? Thanks for taking my call.

579
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Speaker 3: How are you guys doing great?

580
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Speaker 8: Glenn?

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Speaker 9: Hey, listen, I just had a suggestion and a request.

582
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Speaker 9: I'm going to give you the request first, so I

583
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 9: don't choke on this. The Harbor mannequin, can't we upgrade

584
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Speaker 9: him to charger gear this year? Because I really believe

585
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 9: we're going to go to the AFC Championship. Unfortunately to

586
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 9: lose to the Bills, but we are going places this year.

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Speaker 8: And I think you guys should.

588
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Speaker 9: Use Jacklink Sausages your sponsor for the jack Off, because,

589
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Speaker 9: rather you realize it or not, this Jackof's going to

590
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Speaker 9: be huge.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you, thank you, Glenn.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate that if the Chargers go to the AFC

593
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Speaker 2: title game, then we'll change the Jim Harball Michigan Mannequin,

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Speaker 2: Michigan man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you think we're safe keeping the Jim Harball Michigan Mannequin?

597
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

598
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: Really the Chargers AFC title game. Okay, I'm not mining in.

599
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: I can't do it anymore. I did it too long,

600
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: too many years.

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00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: Even if they get there, I'd be like, great, it's

603
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: just like Arizona basketball. If they make the Final four,

604
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: then I'll go Okay, hey, I'll eat my words here.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think you're making a horrible mistake. You've been

606
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Speaker 6: on the Chargers since I've known you, and they were

607
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 6: eleven and six. Last year they added a great running

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Speaker 6: two great running backs. Harball always wins. They went from

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Speaker 6: five to twelve to eleven and six with the.

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Speaker 5: Same basic roster. I know I am all in on the.

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Speaker 11: All in, all in, all in, all in, all in,

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Speaker 11: But what's that mean I would be here's the bet

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Speaker 11: for you.

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Speaker 8: I'll bet that they.

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Speaker 5: Win a playoff game. Okay, all in.

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Speaker 3: Ish ish, that's not AFC title game.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me consider it one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Look, Carball has a formula. I mean that he

619
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Speaker 2: knows what the recipe is. No matter where he is,

620
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: he tries to incorporate the same recipe. They're a running

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Speaker 2: team defense and Justin Herbert, we need you to be magical.

622
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Speaker 2: You don't have to be Superman. You can be Clark Kent.

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Speaker 2: This is what Daniel Jeremiah, this former scout said yesterday

624
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Speaker 2: on the show. You can be Clark Kent, but occasionally

625
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Speaker 2: be Superman. That's all you need. I think he joins

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Speaker 2: us on the program tomorrow. Justin Herbert right Ton, correct,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Tod.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 6: Chargers outscored their opponents last year by one hundred and

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Speaker 6: one points. The Chiefs outscored their opponents by fifty nine.

631
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Speaker 6: Just to give all a comparison. They won their last three.

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Speaker 6: The Chargers are.

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Speaker 5: Poised, but then they had the playoff game that always

634
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Speaker 5: gets in the way from it.

635
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does at damn playoff.

636
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Speaker 6: If they could jump from Week seventeen to the Super Bowl, Yes,

637
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 6: is Philip Rivers going to join us, Tod, Yeah.

638
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Speaker 5: It's a big Chargers date.

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Speaker 2: Tomahow Okay, all in, let's get Ladanian, Tomlinson and Dan Founce.

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Speaker 3: I would round it up yeah. Atron means come on,

641
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Speaker 3: Oh Chuck Munsey, Oh the glass, Chuck Munsey with the glasses.

642
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Speaker 3: Stan Humphreys, come on.

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Speaker 5: Okay, live a little train. James and Deep.

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Speaker 2: Ron Yary former number one overall pick I think great, Lineman,

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Speaker 8: like really struggled the last couple of years. Like, you know,

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Speaker 8: I was just at the Chiefs and it looks I mean,

660
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 8: the practice was so good. It was tough and tense,

661
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 8: but it was so good, and mahomes looked awesome. But

662
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Speaker 8: you're sort of like, all right, like that's what you expect.

663
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Speaker 8: It was like a good reminder of why the Chiefs

664
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Speaker 8: are in the Super Bowl basically every year. But then

665
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Speaker 8: you go a couple other places and you can be like,

666
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Speaker 8: all right, I can see if they're gonna have a

667
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Speaker 8: big turnaround, Like why Like I was at the Titans

668
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Speaker 8: and you see Cam Moore, you watch him throw a

669
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Speaker 8: little bit, you gain an understanding for why teammates and

670
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Speaker 8: coaches love him to work as and all that stuff,

671
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Speaker 8: and I left there being like, I don't know how

672
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Speaker 8: many times they're gonna win this year, Like maybe it's

673
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Speaker 8: like six or seven, I don't know, but I can

674
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 8: really see how the rebuild would start now. And so

675
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Speaker 8: like that's sort of what you get, you know, rather

676
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Speaker 8: than like, all right, this team's gonna win the super

677
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Speaker 8: Bowl because like the really good teams, they kind of

678
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 8: look just normal to you.

679
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Speaker 2: You know, what do you think of the Bronco that

680
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: they felt like they surprised people? And I know you're

681
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: just going there now, But now we expect Bonicks to

682
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Speaker 2: be a playoff caliber quarterback. We know Sean Payton's all

683
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame coach, but the expectation level, like the

684
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Speaker 2: Commanders as well, that second year.

685
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Speaker 3: We saw this with the Texans.

686
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Speaker 2: You know, what is it you feel like when you

687
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Speaker 2: think of the Broncos going into what can is considered

688
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Speaker 2: like the second year of this turnaround.

689
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's definitely going to get harder. Schedule

690
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 8: will get harder, expectations will get more. I think people

691
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Speaker 8: know what to expect a bon Nicks now. I think

692
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Speaker 8: last year I would be in that list of like,

693
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Speaker 8: is Bonnicks going to be a franchise starting quarterback in

694
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Speaker 8: the NFL? Like I really wasn't sure. I really didn't know.

695
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Speaker 8: You watch him enough last year. You watch, like, for instance,

696
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 8: of plays he made in that Bengals game late, and

697
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 8: this guy looks legit. And so the Broncos had no

698
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 8: business winning that many games last year. They really didn't.

699
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Speaker 8: Like I thought it would be kind of like a

700
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Speaker 8: transition yeer like six or seven, and they were really

701
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Speaker 8: good and they didn't even have the personnel close to

702
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Speaker 8: being as good as they as the record once. And

703
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 8: so this year, you know, another year in the draft,

704
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Speaker 8: another year of development, some key free agents like you

705
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 8: know Lufanga and green Law Booth like love both of those.

706
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 8: They should be good, Like I know, the expectations are more,

707
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 8: but they should be more ready as an organization to

708
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 8: be good and like it was a good reminder for

709
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Speaker 8: me and I guess for everyone. Sean Payton is a very,

710
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Speaker 8: very excellent head coach.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering about the trend.

712
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Speaker 2: The NFL is a copycat league, and is the trend

713
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Speaker 2: going with younger coaches?

714
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Speaker 3: You know, you do have Pete Carroll.

715
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Speaker 2: I think there's always the possibility of Belichick or if

716
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: Nick Saban wants to get back in it. But is

717
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Speaker 2: the trend now with that younger guy offensive minded or

718
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Speaker 2: you know, even in Aaron Glenn's situation, defensive minded.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's kind of what it feels like,

720
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Speaker 8: or at least let me say this. If you have

721
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Speaker 8: a young guy that's really good, you don't hear anymore like,

722
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Speaker 8: well he hasn't paid his dues or is he ready?

723
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Speaker 8: It feels more like actually kind of like the players

724
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Speaker 8: are treated or it's like, if you're talented enough, start

725
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Speaker 8: to make mistakes and everyone will be okay with it

726
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 8: because learning while doing it is better than not having

727
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 8: that talent on the field, you know what I mean. So, like,

728
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Speaker 8: you know, there's gonna be some young coaches who like

729
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Speaker 8: Liam Cohen is a great example, right, Like he's really smart,

730
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Speaker 8: he's really talented. I was in Jacksonville. He sounds like

731
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Speaker 8: he has a really good vision for what he wants

732
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Speaker 8: it to look like and how hard it needs to be.

733
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Speaker 8: And he has been trained by Sean mcvain, Todd Bowles

734
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Speaker 8: to guys who have done it consistently, like they should

735
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Speaker 8: be better this year, but like it's not gonna be

736
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Speaker 8: perfect because he's a young coach who hasn't done it.

737
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Speaker 8: So I think teams are more willing to roll with

738
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Speaker 8: some of the growing pains and like it's not just

739
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Speaker 8: you know, it's not just head coaches, right, like the

740
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Speaker 8: aufititive court name or of the coordinator named Grant Yudinsky,

741
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Speaker 8: who's like in his late twenties I think and is

742
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Speaker 8: already in oc and ten years ago would never be

743
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Speaker 8: but he's talented enough where it's like, you know what,

744
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Speaker 8: let's just do it.

745
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Speaker 2: Talking to Ian Rappaport, NFL Network Insider, part of NFL

746
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: Networks Inside Training Camp airs daily through August sixth, John

747
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: Gruden put out something where he says something about he's

748
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Speaker 2: on the verge of doing something coming back. I don't

749
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Speaker 2: know if you saw that. Is there a future for

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Speaker 2: John Gruden to come back in the NFL in your opinion?

751
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Speaker 8: You know, there's still some some legal issues that need

752
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 8: to be worked through now, like if somebody wants to

753
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Speaker 8: hire him. My sense is if there would be things

754
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Speaker 8: where everybody could get together on the legal side and

755
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 8: figure it out and either compromise or just settle it,

756
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Speaker 8: handle it whatever. Like perhaps, you know, I'm sure there's

757
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Speaker 8: some interest. I haven't heard any team particularly trying to

758
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Speaker 8: hire him as a head coach. I did know there

759
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Speaker 8: were some teams that thought about hiring him as a coordinator, which, like,

760
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Speaker 8: how would you you know, would be hard to have

761
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Speaker 8: a better hire than that as a coordinator. I would

762
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Speaker 8: say to me, as someone who likes football content as

763
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Speaker 8: much as football, I kind of like him where he is.

764
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Speaker 8: To be honest, that's just like selfish. He's he's he's

765
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Speaker 8: in a great spot. I mean, I think it's his

766
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Speaker 8: stuff is really good. But I wouldn't rule it out.

767
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Speaker 8: I really wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: The hold ins Trey hendrickson coming back to the Bengals

769
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Speaker 2: means what to you.

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Speaker 11: It means.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't say they're closer to a deal, but it's

772
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Speaker 8: harder to not do a deal if that makes sense,

773
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Speaker 8: Like he's there. And this is why I always feel

774
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Speaker 8: just sort of like personal preference that hold ins are

775
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Speaker 8: more effective than holdouts. Holdouts to me, like I wouldn't

776
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Speaker 8: want to get fined and give away a bunch of

777
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 8: money like that wouldn't be my move. But hold ends

778
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 8: are tough because you see them every day. The fans

779
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 8: see them every day at training camp. You know, do

780
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Speaker 8: you know how good Tree Henderson is, You know how

781
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Speaker 8: good Terry McLaurin is. So if you're a coach, you're

782
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Speaker 8: constantly looking at them like, hey, if that guy was

783
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Speaker 8: on the field, like we would be a lot better.

784
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Speaker 8: And so, you know, sometimes that can push a deal.

785
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Speaker 8: I thought it was, you know, the right move for

786
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Speaker 8: both of those guys to come in and ramp up

787
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Speaker 8: the pressure, and I think there's a deal to be

788
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 8: made for both of those players, just you know, you

789
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Speaker 8: hope it sooner rather than later.

790
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Speaker 2: And then the Micah Parsons situation as well, I just

791
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: feels like all of these deals get done. I know,

792
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: we get excited, we're hungry for any content this time

793
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: of the year, but I just why do we wait.

794
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Speaker 3: Why do owners wait?

795
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Speaker 8: I don't. I don't want to say it's owners waiting.

796
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 8: I think for Micah Parsons, everybody seems to be waiting.

797
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Speaker 8: You know. I've always thought that Micah would be should

798
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Speaker 8: be the highest paid, like highest paid non quarterback in

799
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Speaker 8: the NFL the whole season. And so if that's the case,

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Speaker 8: he's got to go last. And he is very smart

801
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 8: and very savvy and business wise, you know, probably as

802
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 8: well versed as anyone his age and so, and his agent,

803
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 8: David Ullagetta, is very good at educating clients so they

804
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 8: know if you go last, you are the most. And

805
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 8: so my sense is he was going to be last.

806
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's going to be like scrambling

807
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 8: around before kickoff like with Dak a couple of years

808
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 8: ago or last year whenever that was. But my sense

809
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 8: is it's last. And like Aiden Hutchinson, you know, is

810
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 8: in talks for a new deal with the Lines, Maybe

811
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 8: that happens and then then Micah goes.

812
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Speaker 3: Better run organization. The Chiefs are the Eagles.

813
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Speaker 8: Similar better run I don't know. I mean, the Chiefs

814
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 8: have been doing it for longer, but the Eagles have

815
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 8: done such an unbelievable job of Like it's a good

816
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 8: mix of keeping veterans that you want to keep and

817
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 8: then letting the guys you you're okay letting go go

818
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 8: and just replacing them in the draft. Both of those

819
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 8: guys do an awesome job of drafting players and not

820
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 8: needing them to play so they can learn the right way.

821
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Speaker 8: I don't know who's better, but this is kind of

822
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Speaker 8: where you want to get to, right, Like, you know,

823
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 8: I don't I don't records or predictions or whatever, but

824
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Speaker 8: I don't really know anyone who doesn't believe both of

825
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 8: those teams are going to have double digit wins this year,

826
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Speaker 8: next year, the year after. Like that's just what it's like.

827
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 8: And you know, that's an unbelievable reality, it really is.

828
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Speaker 3: We go to the other end of the rainbow.

829
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Speaker 2: The Browns owner Jimmy Haslam came out and said, this

830
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Speaker 2: draft selection of Shadoor Sanders is on his GM Andrew Berry.

831
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Speaker 2: What did you make of that comment by the owner?

832
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Speaker 8: So I understand it, and it is right, Like I

833
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 8: know that this was Andrew Berry's pick. I know it

834
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 8: was in consultation with his football people as coaches, his

835
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Speaker 8: personnel staff, and then you know the Browns. I mean,

836
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 8: it sounds strange to say for because of the record,

837
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 8: but they really are a very well run franchise despite

838
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 8: having a quarterback Albatross and Sean Watson in that contract,

839
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 8: in that situation and all that, they really do it

840
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 8: the right way. In the right way is your football.

841
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 8: People make the decisions, the owner empowers them and gives

842
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 8: the okay, and then you move forward. There's two things

843
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 8: that I didn't love about that whole situation. I think

844
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 8: one is the quote is being a little bit taken

845
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Speaker 8: out of context, as in like it's Andrew Berry's blame,

846
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 8: like he's the GM, like they're all his picks. So

847
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 8: I thought it was fine. I just feels like people

848
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 8: are missing the context. The other thing is Chador might

849
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 8: be good, Like I have no idea and I'm going

850
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 8: to go there in a couple of days, but we're

851
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 8: not going to know this year. We may not know

852
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 8: next year. So I don't really understand what it feels

853
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 8: like people are blaming Andrew Berry like there is a

854
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 8: chance and it's you know, non zero percent that Shador

855
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 8: Sanders is the franchise quarterback for the Browns and it's

856
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 8: one of the best picks they ever made in franchise history.

857
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 8: That is an absolute possibility. He is very talented, So

858
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 8: you know, yes it was the GM's pick, but we

859
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 8: don't know how it's going to go.

860
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the one thing I wonder about, if

861
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Speaker 2: it's Dylan Gay or Shador Sanders, is how much of

862
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: a runway the Browns will give them with two first

863
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: round picks next year. And if you know that, you

864
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: got to fight that urge of do we see enough

865
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: with Shadoor or Dylan Gabriel to go let's give them

866
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: another year, or do you go all in with the

867
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Speaker 2: two first round picks and try to get you your

868
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 8: That is a that is the biggest of all the

870
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 8: things for the Browns this year. And I know they're

871
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 8: trying to win, and like the actual roster's pretty good.

872
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 8: I think Placco, if he starts, could be totally fine.

873
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 8: But that's the issue. And like I've thought about it

874
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 8: a ton, because like you're on the road alone, all

875
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 8: you do is thick about these door key football things, right,

876
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 8: I don't it's gonna be hard because like let's say

877
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 8: it's a struggle and let's say they're kind of not ready.

878
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 8: All the fans are going to care about all the

879
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 8: talk radio and reporters, and Cleveland is a very intense

880
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 8: media environment. All anyone's gonna care about is Blake community,

881
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 8: the young guys, and it might be it might be

882
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 8: Dylan Gabriel. There's a lot of people in the draft

883
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 8: who said if Dyan Gabriel was six' to, two he'd

884
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 8: be an early, pick which you, know shout out to short.

885
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 8: GUYS i rootra all of. THEM i JUST i don't

886
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 8: know how you avoid that. Temptation but that's the story

887
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 8: of their.

888
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: Season to, me when's the last time you had a

889
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: player get in your face over something you reported or?

890
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 8: Said it? Does it almost never happens BECAUSE i guess

891
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 8: had you know a player sort of make a snide,

892
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 8: comment like maybe once every five, years but you can

893
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 8: never tell if they're. Joking WHAT i try to do

894
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 8: is BEFORE i do, ANYTHING i have the, conversation like

895
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 8: even though it's really FAST pasd like a lot of,

896
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 8: times you know you sort of know what you're going

897
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 8: to hit send on before you do. It SO i

898
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 8: try to get to the agent or player or THE

899
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 8: gm or THE pr guy and just be, like here's

900
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 8: WHAT i, have just to have the conversation before it goes.

901
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 8: Public so LIKE i used, to you, know first seven

902
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 8: or eight years doing, this it used to happen all the.

903
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 8: Time now it almost never happens because at least people

904
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 8: know what to expect WHEN i say it ON tv

905
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 8: or WHEN i hit send on a.

906
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: Tweet great to catch up with, You, ian safe. Travels

907
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 3: thanks for joining.

908
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 8: US i got thirty nine on a three point nine

909
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Speaker 8: more miles so this this timing was. Perfect Thanks.

910
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: Dan all, Right that'sie And RAPPAPORT Nfl Network, INSIDER Nfl

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Speaker 2: networks inside training camp airs every day Through august.

912
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Speaker 3: Sixth.

913
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh he's been to The, Bucks, Jags, Titans, Saints, Bears,

914
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: chiefs and he's got The patriots and The bills coming.

915
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Up you can be in camp.

916
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: Now WHEN i worked In New york AT, cnn AND

917
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 2: i would go out to The jets camp and The giants,

918
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: camps and you could get a sense it was. Weird

919
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be something that's, tangible but like it it felt.

920
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: Different you, know The giants were onto something with. Parcels,

921
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: now The jets did have. Talent The jets had the sack.

922
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: Exchange you, know they they but it felt different. There

923
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: it felt like The giants were. Professional they knew what

924
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: their roles. Were and you Had belichick or you Had

925
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 2: Bill parcells And belichick as your defensive. Coordinator it felt

926
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: like they knew that they were going to do something

927
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: big or bigger or.

928
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: Special The jets were just a fascinating group of.

929
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: Personalities you Had Mark gastineaux, There Joe, klecko one of

930
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: my favorite, Players ken, O'Brien and you just you Al.

931
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: Tuon you had talent, there but it's it was just

932
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: a different. Feeling it's almost like The yankees and The,

933
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: mets where you can have, talent but they just don't

934
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: feel like they're the same or the same run. Organization

935
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: but being Around Mark gastoneau Of Rolls, royce he was

936
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: Dating Brigitte, nielsen who was did she Marry Sylvester stallone

937
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: or were? THEY i think so they, Dated oh my,

938
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: gosh and it was it was a big. Deal like

939
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: but he was just not liked by his teammates because

940
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: even WHEN i would go out there and you, Know Marty,

941
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: Lyons Joe, klecko it was At Abdul salaam like these

942
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: guys knew that you're kind of out there for gast to.

943
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: Know like they they were like here for gas to.

944
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 2: Know AND i, go, well you know kind of because

945
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: he was a big deal and uh but, yeah just

946
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: to sit down with, him and he had bigger, aspirations you,

947
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: know it felt like he wanted to be this is Before,

948
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: schwarzenegger you, know one of those action heroes that that's

949
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 2: what he was hoping.

950
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: For, yeah.

951
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 6: BALLING i went back to double check And Mark gasno

952
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 6: has not made The hall Of. Fame and you talked

953
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 6: about likability hurting someone's case or behavior after your care

954
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: but he had a five year. Run he was four

955
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 6: time first Team All pro four years in a. Row

956
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 6: that's hard not to make The hall Of. Fame he

957
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 6: had one hundred and seven sacks and basically a five year.

958
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 6: Span his stats Are hall Of. Fame his personality kept him.

959
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: Out it, appears, well didn't he quit the? GAME i

960
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: think he quit the?

961
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: Sport was there were there steroid accusations that HE i

962
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: want to be fair to, him But i'm going off

963
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: memory With.

964
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 6: I've got a couple of articles here that said he

965
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 6: retired a little. Early he was thirty two years. Old

966
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 6: not sure.

967
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 3: Why, yeah, YEAH i Think walls may have been closing

968
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: in on.

969
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 6: Him he had a three year run with twenty, sacks nineteen,

970
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 6: sacks twenty two.

971
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: Sacks it's weird that he was viewed as, selfish like

972
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: your job is to get.

973
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: Sacks but then it felt LIKE i always thought That

974
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: kleco was a better. PLAYER i just Thought Joe klecko

975
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: was sort of An Aaron donald type. Player But mark

976
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: benefited from that that everybody else was doing their, job

977
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: which Allowed mark to just go after the quarterback and he,

978
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: did and he did it in you, know charismatic. Style

979
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: but it just felt like he was viewed as it

980
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: was The jets and then it Was Mark. Gastineau whether

981
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 2: that's fair or, not but that was always the feeling

982
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: because they had other you, Know ken O'Brien was a

983
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: very quiet, guy That freeman.

984
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: McNeil you, know.

985
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: They had a really good roster and should have been. Better, Yes,

986
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: TON i wonder how

987
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 7: MUCH i remember watching some of those games that his

988
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 7: teammates were a little tired of his act or got

989
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 7: them in situations where there was one time against The,

990
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 7: RAMS i guess like a fight broke out and they

991
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 7: were all going after, him and it didn't look like

992
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 7: The jets teammates were in any rush to pull THE

993
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 7: rams off of him from WHAT i, Saw, yeah