WEBVTT - Almighty Bruce Feldman 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:05.800 If you thought more hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.440 was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of the 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.640 old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.200 in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich pill 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:20.320 poppers in the penthouse, to clearing house of hot takes, 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.160 break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:32.120 Maller starts right now in the everywhares we are back 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.320 at the weekend begins with the Fifth Hour Podcast, and 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.319 we thank you for finding us. 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We are joined this weekend, surprisingly back 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.680 to back weekends from West of the four oh five. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.320 I had to take a peek at some inventory and 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.880 look at some some data since we're big these days 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.040 on the science not a science or some science, but 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.000 I had to look at some backlogs and noticed that 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.040 a few days that I was out come right back 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.240 and book a guy by the name of Rob Parker. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.639 It was the highest rated podcast in the last sixty days. 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.480 So for that I must say thank you and a 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.760 good job by myself. So yeah, I ever heard a 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.320 lot of complaints, but we'll save that for the next 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.640 next podcast. We don't want to sully the podcast here 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.240 when we'll see you. You've been a huge NFL guy 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.880 since you were a kid, But was there ever an 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.160 instance where you just felt like, man, college football is 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.720 the equal right now to the national football in terms 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.639 of your fandom? Oh? Yeah, sure. When when I was 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.720 a kid, I it was not insignific figuring at all. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.160 It was a big part. I have fond memories of 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.640 watching you know, the big U I C games on TV, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:08.720 although my parents went to u C. L A and 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:13.519 watching uh, you know, random Notre Dame games, and I 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.240 bought into all of all of that, And I still 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:22.200 love a great college atmosphere, like I the only one 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:27.600 I've been to outside of California's Norman, Oklahoma. That was amazing, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.000 Like I would if I had the time and I 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.440 had the resource. Like Dan Buyer, who works at our place, 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.640 he got sent for years to like the biggest college 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.000 football game of the week, and that's awesome, Like he 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.280 got to experience all that. He's got to go to 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.840 Tuscaloosa and see what it's like at Alabama and and 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.920 go to all these these great college setups, but I 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:52.400 really haven't experienced much of that other than Oklahoma UM. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.760 But no, I appreciate. And we don't talk too much 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.920 college football on the The Overnight Show. And the reason 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:02.600 we don't do that is that we're not on Saturday, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.000 and so we we could like preview the game, like 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.440 there's a big scandal in college football, We'll talk about 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.960 it because I love scandal. But by the time we 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:14.720 get back Sunday night in the Monday, the NFL trump's 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.240 college football, and so there's all these big NFL stories 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.839 and then, uh, college football just gets lost in the 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.880 haze of the NFL and does not get the the 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:29.360 recognition on our show. There's a lack of recognition for 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.960 for college football. But it's amazing though, because when you 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:36.840 look at television programming top fifty sixty program shows throughout 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:41.160 the year, it is dominated by the NFL up seconds 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.360 college football, and then everything else. But there's for as 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.080 much as that can run parallel in some ways, it's 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.720 not even close with the NBA and college basketball. It 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.920 just falls off a cliff. So yeah, man, I'm right 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.719 there with you. I would love to go to death Valley. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.800 I would love to go down to SEC Country. I'd 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.600 love to go to Notre Dame. I'm a biased guy 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.840 when talking scenery, but I absolutely adore Pasadena and the 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.400 Rose Bowl. I think it's the best setting in all 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.600 of college. Well, you know you can go. Yeah, I've been. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.760 Have you been? You've been to the Rose Bowl. Yeah, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.000 I've been to a bunch of I mean, I went 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.719 back in the day with my cousin to go watch 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.840 Ricky Williams trucks stick a bunch of Bruins and still 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.719 get she lacked by sixty glory days of U c 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.280 l A and Kate McDade. Those guys. Man, it was 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.080 glory days and I'm a fan. But you know, you 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.400 appreciate good ball and obviously USC in the two thousands. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.960 But hey, hey, I did postgame Bruin talk after the 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.080 worst day in the history of u c l A 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:45.480 football when they had to play that makeup Miami. Yeah. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.800 They had a seven team point lead late third quarter 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.760 and ended up giving it all back to Edger and James. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.880 Hurricanes who had not many had heard of Edger and 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.679 James what they did after that. He ran through them 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.279 like a bull. He just ran over the U c 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.960 l a team. It was so bad. How bad was 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:10.480 It was so bad that the FBI investigated. They thought 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.240 the game was a rigged deal. That U c l A. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.920 Tanked the game. That's how bad that the end of 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.000 the game was there in the fourth quarter. And if 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.200 they had simply won that game, they would have played 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.840 for the national you would have gone to the postseason thing, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.000 the National championship game, because I think Kansas State had 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.400 I think they had lost that same day, if I 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:36.559 remember um, because Kansas State us in Tennessee all undefeated. Yeah. Yeah, 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.279 and then dude Edrian James had thirty nine carries for 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.640 two yards in that game. He went batshit craze in 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.600 the second half. I remember that. Yeah. It was insane. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:52.839 It was absolutely insanity. And but that was I was. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.000 I was doing local radio. We had the U c 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.120 l A Bruins radio rights, and we were there like 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.680 all those games. It was remember one of those years 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.839 and in that era was at the Rose Bowl. They 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.920 played Michigan when Michigan was still considered good and Alabama, 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.560 now Alabama was not considered great at that time, but 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.120 still like a legacy program, and they beat him back 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.000 to back, they beat him Michigan and Alabama back to back, 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.280 and like, wow, that's like one of the greatest accomplishments 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.720 of all time. And that's you know, it didn't end 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.000 up with a championship anything like that, but but still 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.120 looking back, it was like, wow, it was actually more impressive. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.040 I remember to beat Michigan than it was to beat Alabama. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.720 I also remember the Rose Bowl, uh, And I have 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.600 a notebook somewhere here that Tennessee gave me from when 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:45.360 Peyton Manning came to play at the Rose. Yeah, and 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.040 they passed out all this They were trying to get 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.440 Peyton the Heisman trophies, so they passed out all this 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.920 paraphernalia for Peyton Manning. I kept some of it because 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.000 I'm a loser, and I have some of it here 0:07:56.160 --> 0:08:00.880 in my many boxes as I moved. But another about that, Listen, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.840 we are don't bear the lead my man? All right? 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.800 With that is the backdrop collegiant football to the gridiron 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.040 we go. And if you're a college football fan, you 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.520 are more than well aware of Bruce Feldman, who is 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.840 the national college football writer at the Athletic and has 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.720 been covering college football for more than twenty years. Now. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.360 You see him on Fox college football coverage, a sideline 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:30.120 reporter the big Games Fox does. He's written a bunch 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.760 of books on college football, and he has he's seen 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.120 it and done it all over the last two decades plus. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.839 And so we are joined now by the aforementioned Bruce Feldman. Bruce, 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.199 thank you. So why don't we start with this name, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.520 image and likeness. The era has a ride. We heard 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:50.760 a lot of negative comments about this pearl clutching, people 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.080 jumping up and down, pounding the table. What are your 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.080 early impressions on how the n I L has gone 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.559 so far? I do people have gotten a little numb 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.720 to it. Maybe you know there's there's a little bit 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.679 of a shock value. And you see, you know on 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:10.719 Ohio State freshman defensive alignman, you know, posing pictures with 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.920 a with a really nice truck or suv that you 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.680 know he's doing some kind of partnership with with a 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:22.600 car dealership. And you know, it's not too far removed 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.720 from when you would hear chatter from like got message boards, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.320 so and so defensive lineman or star player who didn't 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.600 commit to such and such school posing with a with 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.400 a fancy car on his Instagram and people are like, see, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.240 look what happened there. So I think from that part 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:45.280 of it, it's taking a little bit of readjusting for people. Um, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.400 I think some of the some of the reality of 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.960 it is most of the money involved with student athletes, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.600 not just in football, but in other sports, especially the 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:59.360 other non revenue sports, the money is probably not two 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.600 ipop thing. So I just think, you know, I think 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.320 it's probably getting gonna get normalized to a large degree 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.240 before too long. It's just we are in such a 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.920 you know, such a framework of being used to the 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.360 n s A rules and regulations that I just think 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.400 there's an adjustment phase that goes onto it. And quite honestly, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.520 some stuff that's showing up on social media, and there's 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.600 probably a bunch of stuff that's not not getting on 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.679 people's radar because it's not going on social media that's 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.480 happening behind the scenes. Be sure to catch live editions 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.120 of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.160 eleven pm Pacific. Be sure to catch live editions of 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.200 The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am eastern eleven 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.760 pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:47.360 Radio app. Yeah and the moment for me where and 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.160 I don't. I don't have a problem. I'm fine with 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.920 the players getting the money. I'm glad they're they're getting 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:56.240 the money. But you're right, there's an adjustment period. The quarterback, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.000 the high school quarterback from Texas, I forget his name, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:04.720 that went to Ohio and uh. That was the satire 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.719 moment for me when he when he posted uh commercial 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.640 on on social media and he hadn't even you know, 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.360 gone to college yet, and that whole that that was like, Wow, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.880 that this is really real. That's like that was wild. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.040 And now my I made an argument on my my 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.080 show Bruce that I don't. I don't think that's gonna 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.360 become the norm where guys skip their senior year of 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.160 high school being your last year of eligibility to go 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.720 wait to play football somewhere. I think that's only like 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.240 one percent of guys. Are you with me on that 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.360 or do you think this would become more and more 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.920 of a regular occurrence. No, I think that example is 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.120 probably even less than one percent. It's probably a fraction 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.120 of a percent. I mean, the oddity of that one 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.960 particular was you have a very high quarterback at a 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.480 powerhouse school, in Texas, and you had the high school 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:58.240 head coach basically finding out that this kid is is 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:02.000 thinking of just basically both thing and and you gonna 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.560 go to college journily on a news story that somebody 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.360 forwarded to him. So you have like, wait a minute, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.320 the parents are thinking of doing what? And it's you know, 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.079 it's like and there's a camp boot your drink and 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:14.880 what is going on? Why are we hearing it? Like? 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.440 It's just I think it's a It's that part of 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.400 it is such uncharted waters and we'll see, you know. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.880 It's like I mean, in that particular case, is he 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.000 gonna win the starting job? And you know he's in 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.920 a four horse race and he's coming in He's I 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.760 don't even think as we're doing this, he's not even 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.200 there yet. I think he gets there tomorrow. So who 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.440 knows how that one's gonna play out. I think a 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.120 lot of this is going to be wait and see 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.280 and how this works out. And I think there's gonna 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.600 be a bunch of stuff where people are gonna look 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.760 at and go, that's the return our investment they're getting 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.240 from that. And I think that there's gonna go a 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.439 lot of folks and a lot of businesses who were 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:56.280 probably we're going to reevaluate as they go because it's 0:12:56.320 --> 0:13:01.440 just everything is so new right now. Yeah. Absolutely, And 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.880 I did see there have been some guys that have 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.720 pushed back a little bit. I saw Pett and our Doozy, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.440 the pit coach. He made a comment that was like 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.559 legalized cheating, and they need a salary cap, like a 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:18.560 national salary cap for recruiting. If you think that, do 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.160 we get a new bureaucracy bruce in college football to 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:26.640 oversee the oversight of name, image likeness And how would 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.840 that even work? I think the n IS at this 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.400 point is so backed into a corner of guard rails. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:34.960 I don't know how that works. I mean, I did 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.600 a big story in the Athletic right on the eve 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.400 of an I L being made official, and one of 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.199 the coaches made the point towards the end of legalized 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.360 basically legalized cheating and things above board. And hey, if 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.600 you're a booster, he complained about your school, you know, 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:57.920 losing top local recruits to maybe quote unquote more aggressive programs. Well, 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.720 the coach made the point, Now, guys, it's put up 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.400 for shut up time. You can legally UM have an 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.840 impact on some of these recruits just the same. And 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.000 it's not like it was in terms of in the 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.800 n t a's heard you before. Now it's a different landscape. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.440 And and those are some of the things honestly that 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.200 when I alluded to it is like maybe those are 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.360 things that aren't done in the face of social media 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:27.240 and necessarily UM you know, whether their appearance fees or 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.440 things where it's like, hey, this is a star player 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.600 who's going to go to some boosters kid's birthday party, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.120 and maybe he gets fifty grand for the appearance. Maybe 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.720 it's a hundred grand. I mean, the question is who 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.200 sets the value on that. I think the n c 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:45.480 a UM and even you know, Congress I I think 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.000 that that is a that is a really touchy subject, Bruce. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.520 Do you think it will have any kind of trickle 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.160 down in terms of any kind of money, ally kid 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.920 to guys that are in junior college or maybe even 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.520 trusts that are set up for high school kids to 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.880 at least try to make sure that they stay in 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.280 for four years and not bail like some of these guys, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.000 and assure them that there will be some money that 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.360 is guaranteed for what they have agreed to once they 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.000 become freshman in college. Well, I think there's probably already 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.600 a triple down for some high school kids. I don't know, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.800 depending on how it's related to their different state high 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.840 school regulation bodies and the different state laws that are 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.640 going to be quit in place for this our restrictive 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:33.000 How how you know how detailed they are and how 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.240 they're written and so one thing I've heard a bunch 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.240 of from some A d s in the first month 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.600 of this was Okay, you know, we've seen some more 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.040 athletes come to us a great a minute. None of 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.240 like we've signed your life away to something, But it's like, 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.760 how what are the how long are the rights that 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.280 you signed to to go do some Instagram posts for 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.120 some gene company or something like some of those things 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:02.120 I've already come up. And a lot of there's just 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.320 a lot of tv D with some of this stuff, 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.000 as as it's like happening on the fly, you know, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.160 and as a as a former athlete and as a 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.280 game or two I think Ben and I can attest 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.400 at least we're happy to see the return of n 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:18.920 C double A Football on PlayStation Xbox right, Yes, that's 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.640 huge Bruce, did you did you grow up in that 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.160 area or were you more like the bird versus Magic 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.360 on Atari? No, I remember, like it's both. I definitely 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.800 remember the e A Sports original Bird Magic game with 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.200 the not Bird Magic, it was actually Bird dr J. Actually, 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.560 you know, I think about it was the first time 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.880 I've seen it and he broke a backboard and there 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.040 would be this like little comics cartoon ref who would 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.680 who would who would shovel the glass off the off 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.520 the court? But no, I mean like I love those 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.640 old you know e A games where you know, I 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.440 remember a specific day with my now life but remember 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.560 she came home from work. This is before we were marrying. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.520 I was so excited to show her, uh this version 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.680 of seven on seven that was added to the new 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.399 to the game that knew that year, and she was like, 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.080 how much time did you spend on this to day? 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.280 And it was answer was probably about ten hours. And 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.600 that was a little When it came out of my 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:16.440 mouth and say it like that, I was like, oh, 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.720 I's pretty much wasted a day doing this. So but 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.840 you know, I could see how addictive those games were 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.680 or are, and um, you know how it's funny now 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.360 that we're talking about. I'm thinking about some of those 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.320 days the older Lead eleven was really sponsored by a 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.800 sports and you'd have the newest game, and you know 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.480 a lot of the quarterbacks. I remember back in the day, 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.399 Ryan Malle was a high schooler. He's obviously went on 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.960 to play at Arkansas, but I remember playing a game 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.240 had you know, against him, and it was just like, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.080 I don't know that was I just felt like it 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.159 was just such a part of the start of the 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.000 season in the fall, the game was about the new 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.160 version of the game was coming out, right. I mean, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.359 if you to be fair, if you grew up thirty 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.359 years later, then he'd be actually getting paid to play 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.520 these video games as opposed to cover in these athletes. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.840 So it's just a it's just a different time. Um. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.479 I want to go to the SCC real quick and 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:15.280 ask you a specific question on Alabama and Bryce Young. Um. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.679 You know, locally, I covered Bryce when he was at 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.439 Cathedral and he was at Modern Day and I have 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.720 a completely different outlook on him, and I think a 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.000 lot of people do, especially when they compare him to 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.800 DJ we on GOL. But I feel like Bryce Young 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.440 is gonna be in that similar situation that J. T. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.520 Daniels was, And what I mean by that is that 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.280 he was heavily protected at modern day, no one breathed 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.679 on him. And then as soon as he got to 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.880 the big leagues in Division one and he had guys 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:45.760 in his face, it was like a deer in headlights. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.639 And I know the office of line will be much 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.960 better at Alabama than Southern cal. But I mean, do 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.720 you do you see him being like the guy compared 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.600 to DJ, Like, do you think that's one and two? 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:01.040 Is that is that Leinerton Brady Quinn back in the day? Um, 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.240 I don't know. There are obviously different stature quarterbacks with 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.240 two of them, I don't know if I would see 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.720 him as you know as as J. T. Daniels. I 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.720 think we're going into different places. I think they're going 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:19.119 into them in also different transition phases. Whereas Jack Dan 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.359 has left a year early now I know it was 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.399 about the same age as most frustram Moti's still kind 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.960 of like a crunch to get him, you know, to 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.400 get him ready and hit the ground running. Whereas Bryce 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.160 Young had a year or two acclamate to college football 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.880 on that program behind Mac Jones. Um, you know, there 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:39.000 was no there was no Evan Neil anchoring the line 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.160 would be the best offensive line in the country for 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.760 j T. Daniels. Um, I don't know, you know, I 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.959 temperament why I'd be lying if I said I had 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:51.280 a great feel for Bryce Young and where he's at 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.520 with things, UM, my understanding, he's probably he's probably better 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:59.320 at um handling pressure in the pocket and some of 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:03.640 the challenges j T. Daniels has. So but again, he's 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.879 going to be in the SEC and the bar is 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.720 incredibly high. You know, there's high expectations for j T. 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:13.920 And there's definitely gonna be sky high expectations for Bryce Young. Um, 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.520 you know, because it's been a long time now, you know, 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.560 you have to go back pre Jalen Hurts, where Alabama 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.840 hasn't had a quarterback been exceptional. Um, you know they 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.320 had you know, Jacob Coco played for when they won 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.680 the national title, but they were really you know, doing 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.080 it with the pieces around them. Um, I don't you know, 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.280 I'd be surprised if Bryce, you and he doesn't have 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:41.800 a really terrific freshman year given everything I've heard about. Yeah, 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.600 and as far as Nick Saban, I saw somewhat recently, 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.360 he signed another big contract at Alabama. Good for him, 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:52.119 a lot of money. He's gonna turn seventy in Halloween 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:56.240 on Halloween. His birthdays on Halloween. So you've been around 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.920 him over the years, Bruce, do you see Nick Saban 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.000 as a guy that's gonna one of these old guard 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.679 college coaches that coaches into his eighties. He do. We 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:07.320 have another ten years of Nick Saban in Alabama. He 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:11.080 doesn't seem to be slowing down at all. So it 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.840 wouldn't surprise me if he's there for another six years 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.639 or so. I mean, I don't know for him what 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:22.000 replaces the energy he gets from the running a you know, 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.639 the top program in college football. You know, would he 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.359 get that if he was, you know, sitting next to 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.040 Kirk clerk Street on the set of Game Day. My 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:35.000 guess is he probably wouldn't. Um. You know, he seems 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.359 to be in really good help. Seems to be as 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.320 much on top of his game as to the point 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.720 where he's involved to as a coach and as a leader. 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.440 So um. And one thing that I think is very 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.880 unique about his situation, and we're talking about guy who's, 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.399