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Speaker 1: Good morning, Earning. I'm good. You kind of like Tuesdays,

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Speaker 1: begin this morning? There's so much to talk about. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with big thing number one. The number one like

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned consistency with Dante Moncrieff, and I think

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Speaker 1: it showed the entire unit is inconsistent. I think we

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Speaker 1: all three of us. John included said this is the

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Speaker 1: breakout season for d du Westbrook and killing Cole. What

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Speaker 1: seeing them emerged as top wide receivers and then they

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Speaker 1: didn't play so well last week. We all have to

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Speaker 1: remember where they came from and how little they've been

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Speaker 1: in this league. Here's where you miss Marquis. Uh d

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Speaker 1: I think that you're starting to see, especially Helan become

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Speaker 1: there are gonna be some people who are looking to

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Speaker 1: go whoa whoa whoa. Markis had the drop in New York.

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Speaker 1: That's set up the you know, the laws essentially because

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Speaker 1: field goal and they win. Although Jason Myers was still

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Speaker 1: You can throw it around, But Marquis is that guy

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Speaker 1: Member he struggled with the knee last year, but he

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Speaker 1: practiced every week. Maybe not on Wednesday, but Thursday Friday,

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Speaker 1: he was out on the field and he was consistent

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Speaker 1: in his route running. And that's really what you're lacking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we still talk, I mean, were about Blake

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Speaker 1: in his fifth season still working to become consistent, why

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Speaker 1: are we surprised when wide receiver from Kentucky Wesleyan is

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Speaker 1: but it it bears mentioning that this wide receiver Corps talented.

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Speaker 1: How about DJ Shark right well, and that that he's

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Speaker 1: week for Stephan Gilmour made a great play to night

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Speaker 1: he punched the ball out um, which can happen when

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Speaker 1: in an awful long time. Marquis and Dante and these

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Speaker 1: full with their spot now. But this group, and you

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Speaker 1: all of these guys. They gotta pick it up this week.

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Speaker 1: They have got to against the Jets team that's pretty

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Speaker 1: talented on defense. They have got to be spot on.

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Speaker 1: They've got to have a great day on the practice

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Speaker 1: game plan. I would be in here working towards this

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Speaker 1: because they let him down. You know, Keenanan is going

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Speaker 1: to hold them to really high standards. And I like

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Speaker 1: what you just said about talent. I do think they're

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Speaker 1: the most talented group we've seen here, but inexperienced. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we have all this talent and athleticism. They're so athletic

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Speaker 1: as a group, but it just haven't had the years

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Speaker 1: and that's just something we have to accept. And so

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Speaker 1: it's a great reason for you to go and watch

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Speaker 1: the miked up piece because it gives you a sense

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Speaker 1: of exactly what these guys went through and what they think.

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Speaker 1: You know, it would have been very easy. In fact,

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Speaker 1: at one point I was thinking, boy Blake is off today.

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Speaker 1: But this is where the analysis pork gets difficult, because

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Speaker 1: hear Keenan say why didn't you do that? And you

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Speaker 1: get a greater understanding of exactly what went wrong. So

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Speaker 1: while people go well it's at the quarterback, because that's

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Speaker 1: the low hanging fruit, it's a piece like this miked

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes so you really understand it. So make

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Speaker 1: the time to go to Jaguars dot com and watch

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Speaker 1: that before next week so you understand it helps you,

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Speaker 1: helps us tell you the story in a much greater way.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think there were a few balls where

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Speaker 1: Blake would throw and you be like, god, that was awful.

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Speaker 1: Throw Blake, who are you even throwing too? And then

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Speaker 1: ran in the wrong route. I wasn't there. So it

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Speaker 1: it's like, Blake, who are you throwing to? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: And that's what happens. If it sounds like we're beating

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Speaker 1: our chest, you bet we are. Nobody tells the story

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Speaker 1: better than we do here on the Jaguars digital network

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Speaker 1: including Off the Field. Off the Field, Yes, so last

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Speaker 1: what is it? Saturday Night? Dave Cobbell and his wife

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Speaker 1: years now. It's an event that raises funds for the

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Speaker 1: look Toasted the Animals ensures that every animal has given

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Speaker 1: a second chance. This event's goal was to raised two

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Speaker 1: General manager Dave Cobwell and his wife Joel, have co

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Speaker 1: requires some extraordinary medical care, so everything we raised tonight

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Speaker 1: goes towards that special fund. One of the Caldwell's biggest

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Speaker 1: when we got married. Our our wedding present to each

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Speaker 1: Codwells to honor their constant support of the Jacksonville Humane Society.

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Speaker 1: For Jaguars dot com, I'm Ashlyn Sullivan. Good stuff he

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Speaker 1: currently two dogs and two guinea pigs that are new.

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Speaker 1: That bears mentioning. A lot of players and coaches do

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Speaker 1: It takes a lot to be able to do something

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Speaker 1: and what what coach Coughlin does with that during the season,

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Speaker 1: their events here in the New York UM. These players

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Speaker 1: be told. Great story, good stuff. Alright, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, We've got a brand new twists and top tweets,

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Speaker 1: let's start with our Jaguars Tritter Pole from yesterday on

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Speaker 1: Drive Time, who was the extended player of the game.

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Speaker 1: Fans did not like that. F tou Night's nobody. A

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Speaker 1: Despite Clay's Campbell, you sacks, Telvin Smith eight tackles, Josh

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Speaker 1: Lambo two field goals. I get it. The Jaguars lost.

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Speaker 1: Take a deep breath. The defense held their opponent to

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Speaker 1: nine points at one point in the first half. The

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Speaker 1: But this defense played well. We'll ask Jeff Lockhaman in

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Speaker 1: mean that because Clay As Campbell didn't, he played very well,

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Speaker 1: and I think did he finish as the player of

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Speaker 1: the game he did. Yes, take your deep breath ft

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Speaker 1: U nits all right? Now. We saw Adam Schefter's tweet

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Speaker 1: about Jets running back Leviyan Bell and the trade rumors

643
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Speaker 1: of him going to the New York Jets. We see

644
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Speaker 1: a lot of outlandish comments about, oh my gosh, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are screwed now, there's no way they can beat

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Speaker 1: the Jets now that Levian Bell is gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the team Exhibit A. And the comments. I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: pull a few of them because it was all, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, the Jaguars there in so much trouble. Now, this,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is one of my NFL headlines. Uh,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. If Levian Bell was traded, and keep

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Speaker 1: in mind, it's not an easy thing to do, as

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Speaker 1: you may or may not have read, because because he

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Speaker 1: was a franchise player and traded, the team that gets him,

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Speaker 1: be at the Jets or the Niners or whoever gets him,

656
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Speaker 1: cannot sign him to an extension. He's going to hit

657
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Speaker 1: the free agent market. He can resign with you then,

658
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Speaker 1: but he has a shot to go everywhere else. So

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Speaker 1: you're giving up a draft pick to rent a guy. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you're a team that's got a a playoff run

661
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Speaker 1: in you, that may make some sense. But if you're not,

662
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Speaker 1: then it makes zero sense. If you're a team with

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, it doesn't make a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: sense at all to do that. By the way, he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been a part of an off season program. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't in training camp, he didn't play in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: If he was traded today, there is a zero point

668
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Speaker 1: zero chance that he would play on Sunday. So take

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Speaker 1: a deep breath. It's gonna be okay, Still have a chance.

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Speaker 1: We need a good sound effect if people breathing. All right,

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Speaker 1: the last one and this we have to put the

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Speaker 1: rough in the pastor call in there because we saw

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Speaker 1: that was probably the trending topic with the NFL this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Boogan McFarland played for the Bucks played for the Colts. Now,

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Speaker 1: an analyst with ESPN says, dear NFL. When the people

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Speaker 1: you made the rule to protect start saying the rule

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Speaker 1: is a joke, it may be time to change the

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00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: rule for roughing the pastor Rogers am big Ben both

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Speaker 1: said they don't like the rule. Okay, So there's a

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Speaker 1: story in the Washington Post this morning by Mark mask

681
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Speaker 1: who has been there forever um, where he quotes some

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Speaker 1: unnamed sources saying that they're still gonna call the penalty,

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Speaker 1: but they hope that it will be called slightly differently.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be adjustments made to this throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of the year. Look, what was the first game,

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, where we saw just penalty

687
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Speaker 1: after penalty after penalty, and we all went, oh, this

688
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: rule is sun cause some problems this year because it's

689
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Speaker 1: going to slow down the game. It's going to change

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Speaker 1: the way the guys play defense, which is part of

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Speaker 1: how it's intended. Um, we talked yesterday, right, what was

692
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Speaker 1: Mollie Jackson supposed to do? Just dropped to the ground

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Speaker 1: when he realized there's there's a chance I might hit

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Speaker 1: this guy's helmet if he tweaks his body and turns

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Speaker 1: to the left at the same time his head. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't the physics, the dynamic of it.

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00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: It's it's fluid. So you take your best chance. And

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Speaker 1: I think I think that you had a guy that

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Speaker 1: was trying to hit to the outside and not make

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Speaker 1: helmet the helmet contact. He's a pretty smart player, right,

701
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Speaker 1: But the quarterback is in motion, and Malik said he

702
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Speaker 1: thought that he was going to keep moving away from him, right,

703
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: so he was trying to tackle him. There's just so

704
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Speaker 1: much that a defender has to be able to do,

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Speaker 1: to see, to think in advance. It's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: an instinctual position. Right now, you're asking these guys to think. Well,

707
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: the officials same thing. They've got to be able to

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00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: see all of these things and think about intent and

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. They're learning how to call it

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Speaker 1: as well. Right, Um, no problem with the call, not

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Speaker 1: at all. You knew when you knew when he tackled

712
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: it was going to be if you know this, this

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Speaker 1: could go. No problem. We had no problem with the call.

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Speaker 1: It's just the rule in general is too general, and

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Speaker 1: the things that that can happen, the scenarios that are

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Speaker 1: plausible or possible are too multiple right now. Right So,

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, that was probably the number one trending topic

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Speaker 1: for the NFL this weekend. But I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: to take a deep breath. I think that's a factual statement.

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Speaker 1: And you have guys from the league tweeting it out.

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Speaker 1: It's something's going to have to happen. Well, here's where

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Speaker 1: it is a deep breath, and I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: it's factual. It is a deep breath, and that everybody's

724
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Speaker 1: just going to have to be patient. We're going to

725
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: deal with this all season long, so there's no reason

726
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: to get all up in arms about it. It's not

727
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: going to go away next week. No. Hey, look, and

728
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Speaker 1: we're talking about a play that had a dramatic impact

729
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Speaker 1: on the game here. I don't think I'm out of

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Speaker 1: line if I say that the Jaguars probably win the

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Speaker 1: ball game there, right, if they take possession and they

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Speaker 1: have a short field and they get a touchdown. Now

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Speaker 1: you could argue that, hey, did the Jaguars show you

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Speaker 1: anything offensively that would lead you to believe that they

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Speaker 1: were capable of scoring a touchdown? Yeah, but it was

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Speaker 1: early in the aim. Maybe some things that you know,

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Speaker 1: you just would have had all the moment the energy,

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Speaker 1: the momentum fueled by what the devents had done. I mean,

739
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: but big play. We're not overreacting to it. We're just

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Speaker 1: gonna have to watch and see and then next offseason

741
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Speaker 1: when the competition committee gets together, then we might be

742
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Speaker 1: able to see a little bit of justified reaction to it. Patients,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about this all season long. Nice job,

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00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: take a deep breath. Tuesday on top tweets. How about

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00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: the NFL headlines we kind of covered some of these.

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Speaker 1: Will start with the Jets, who made an inquiry as

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00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: you now know, into Levian Bell. Why is a team

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Speaker 1: that doesn't apparently have a reason to trade make a

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Speaker 1: trade with the rookie quarterback. Not because they're going to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and they do have to give up

751
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Speaker 1: a draft pick and they would have to wait and

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00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: get this guy again in free agency because they can't

753
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars in cap room. The Jets can do

754
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: nearly anything they want. How about the Ramps right a

755
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: bit corner this week and they play on Thursday night

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Speaker 1: against the Vikings, who are gonna come in hot after

757
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Speaker 1: the way that they got pumped at home in the

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Speaker 1: off season. You'll recall they went and made a trade

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Speaker 1: for Marcus Peters and they signed a keep to leave

760
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Speaker 1: and those two players, by all accounts, have been a

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Speaker 1: huge part of the Rams defense and how well they've

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00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: played both throughout this week. To leave is gonna be

763
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: gone for a month with a high ankle sprain. Peters

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Speaker 1: have has a calf strain, and he's look, those things

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00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: can take weeks, weeks and weeks and weeks. We've seen

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Speaker 1: him before, sometimes four, sometimes six weeks. So they have

767
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: a very short week this week to figure out what

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Speaker 1: they're going to do. And they've got some time here

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Speaker 1: in front of them where they've got to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to solve a problem. Imagine if you take a J.

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Speaker 1: Boyer and Jalen Ramsey and put them both on the

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Speaker 1: side by, I think that changes the way I think.

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Speaker 1: I think that changes the way that you play. You bet,

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Speaker 1: it changes the way that you play. And finally, and

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Speaker 1: this is in reference to last night, Van Roethlisberger in

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Speaker 1: the postgame show said he was worried about the fans

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Speaker 1: reaction to the roughing the pastor calls. Now, he was

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00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: hit twice and Ryan Fitzpatrick twice that drove drew flags

779
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: and it was the first time since two thousand one

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Speaker 1: that you had four roughing the pastor penalties called in

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Speaker 1: the same game. But he was worried about the fans.

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00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: For the record, he said, the first one he questioned,

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00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: the second one was absolutely the penalty. So he's grateful

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Speaker 1: that there's a rule out there that is going to

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Speaker 1: protect the passer from taking those hits, but he worries

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Speaker 1: that it will negatively impact the game. Kind of what

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00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: we were just talking about. Everybody's kind of worried about

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00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: how it will negatively impact the game. And you can't

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Speaker 1: get too wound up in it. By the way, speaking

790
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Speaker 1: of the rubbing the pastor calls, William Hayes, the fine

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Speaker 1: Adam Gaze said yesterday that it was an awkward landing

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Speaker 1: by Hayes, who was trying to avoid landing and putting

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Speaker 1: all of his weight on the quarterback and drawing or

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Speaker 1: roughing the passer. Penalt be right now, that is a

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00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: subjective interpretation, but that's what Hayes told his coach, and

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Speaker 1: it's what his coach said to the media, And even

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00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: if it's only true, it goes to show you just

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Speaker 1: how serious the league is in protecting the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: how players are trying to avoid drawing the penalty. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we need a break. When we returned Cheflanga, he joins us.

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849
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's history, although Kyle Brady was pretty dog one good too,

850
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: right back to back good blocking tight ends, and and

851
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Austin has done a great job of blocking. That's the

852
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: one thing that I was kind of concerned about that,

853
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, how do you fill those shoes? And he's

854
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: done an exceptional job. You know, Marcedes was one of

855
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: my go to guys. He hey, he was here a

856
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: long time, so you have time to build a relationship

857
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: with the But I go to him in the locker

858
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: room for some perspective, and every time that I put

859
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: my microphone in front of Austin, he says something that

860
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: I go Wow, he thinks about it. He's terrific and

861
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: he reminds me of you, and that he's got a

862
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: very business like approach to the game. He understands that

863
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: what he does on the field and what he says

864
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: in the locker room, you know, go hand in hand,

865
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: and it's all about the business of the league. Get yeah, Yeah,

866
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: he unders he understands it. He understands the big picture.

867
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: And I hope to see him get more involved in

868
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: the offense as a as a pass catcher because I

869
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that really has been has

870
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: been missing. And he had an opportunity this past game

871
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: where you know, you've got a high point ball. You know,

872
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: defender comes up a Dory Jackson, it's a hitting him

873
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: before he's able to bring it in. But you know,

874
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: you would still like to see your guy, big powerful

875
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: tight end pull that ball in and make that catch somehow.

876
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: All right. So we were talking about the receivers based

877
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: on what they said, let's go, let's go at that piece.

878
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: So you tell me what you saw on the table.

879
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: I thought they weren't good enough. Okay, you know, pretty simple.

880
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 1: You know, you have a wide receiver group that had

881
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: four drops in the ball game. I thought the route

882
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: running was sloppy, I thought the blocking wasn't good enough.

883
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: I think the holding penalty on Dante Montcrieff is a

884
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: matter of you can't hold the defender when he's starting

885
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: to pull away. You have to let go and move

886
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: your feet. That's not hard, that's not hard to understand.

887
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: And he's a veteran guy. And I think the disappointing

888
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: thing for me so far with Dante is is that

889
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: he he is the expected veteran guy that you expect

890
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: his performance to be better and farther along than anybody else,

891
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: and it's not. So how does it happen? I'm asking

892
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: you to interpret because obviously you're not in their meeting room.

893
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: But these has played so well against the Patriots, and

894
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: we talked about you know, uh Heiling had ten catches

895
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: ledger team, DEDI was second with nine. And you're talking

896
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: about young guys rising to the occasion, and then how

897
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: does it fall off in a week like that? Well,

898
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, first of all, did you

899
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: know you get your own kind of ego stroked a

900
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: little bit from all the commentary that you had post

901
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: Patriots game. I mean, Kilan Cole probably had the worst

902
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: performance of all the wide receivers this past game, and

903
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: he was the most talked about coming out of Patriots. So, uh,

904
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: learning lesson there for a young player. You know, I

905
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't worry about that group a whole lot, you know,

906
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: because I think they have one of the best coaches

907
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: in football and KINGO M. Cardell, who's been there, done

908
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: that many times. And I think that he'll get them,

909
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: He'll get them straight. But you know that that's the

910
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: kind of the path of a young NFL player. It

911
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: takes time, and I think that group is no different.

912
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: I think, well, eventually get I'm going. I thought Dedi

913
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: was pretty good in the game. Keilan was not good,

914
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: Dante was not great. Uh, d J Chark, I mean,

915
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: come on, man, you know the moment can't be too

916
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: big for you at some point. You know, so far

917
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: in the regular season, at least on offense, it has. Yeah,

918
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: and he's been very good team being a gunner and

919
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: all that. And I'm not, you know, picking on the

920
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 1: wide receivers to take anything off of Blake Ports because

921
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: you know, look, he he had some things too that

922
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: weren't very good. I mean he had two wide open

923
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: Keeling Coles and one of them he throws it too

924
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: far out in front. The other one that he throws

925
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: it behind him where Keilan can't he barely touch it

926
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: with a finger, you know, so you gotta be better

927
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: than that. He also had two reads that where he

928
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: had deep wall opportunities because a lot of people saying,

929
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: how come the Jaguars didn't go deep? Well, they called

930
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: it okay, just wasn't there. And a lot of people

931
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: are criticizing, you know, built uh, the offensive coordinate and

932
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, and I think that's on warranted. I mean

933
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: if when you when you watch the tape and you

934
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: see the aggressiveness in which he called that game, throwing

935
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: on first down past plays, Yes, I mean it was aggressive.

936
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: It was very similar to the Patriots game. It wasn't

937
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: executed properly. Because if you look at just the numbers

938
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: of four drops, two misses, which two open guys easy throws,

939
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 1: I mean easy throws, that's six in completions right there.

940
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: And then you add into the act that there were

941
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: four tip balls, three and one drive. Now you're talking

942
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: about eleven and completions, and so there's your game right there.

943
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Eleven in completions right there. Yeah, there's eleven opportunities for

944
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: a drive to continue that didn't and we know the

945
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: Jaguars didn't get into the red zone. So those numbers

946
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: volumes the running back group. I thought t J. I'm

947
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: giving t J credit because you can tell his ankle

948
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: is not right. Yeah, he got hit on the sideline

949
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: pretty hard and it was a cheap shot. Shouldn't flag? Yeah, absolutely, yes.

950
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: It was almost to the other side of the white

951
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: stripe when he got hit. Corey Grant. I'm I'm like, man,

952
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: where was the guy that an open space against the Patriots,

953
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: made moves and made a guy miss and there comes

954
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: I think it was Logan the cornerback in open space

955
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: and there's Corey Grant with plenty of room to make

956
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,959
Speaker 1: a movie, runs right into him. You know. I asked

957
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: the question, was it the Titan scheme? And obviously Rabel

958
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: knows this team well from his years in Houston, and

959
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Dan ps is a long time NFL coordinator. What was

960
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: it what they did? Or was it just these guys?

961
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: And when you look at Corey Grant, you have to

962
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: go you're one on one. You gotta win that. In

963
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: that case it was him, Yeah, you gotta win that.

964
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: And I and I give the Titans credit because you know,

965
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: they're not a bunch of slappy Defensively, they're good. Okay,

966
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: they're good, solid group. They have arguably the best defensive

967
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive tackles in football. I won't

968
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: say the best have been going a little bit far,

969
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: but Drill Casey is a marvelous player. Rack Po and Uh,

970
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: the guy on the outside from Georgia Tech, Uh is

971
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: a good football player. They've got a good young draft

972
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: pick from Boston College is gonna be a look. They've

973
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: got good players on that defense. So let's attack the

974
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: offensive line for a moment. Let's go inside out. Because

975
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Chris Reid was a late addition with the injury to A. J.

976
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Cann it looked like he struggled with Casey in the

977
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: third quarter. Um, everybody struggles. I want to say this

978
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: because I had heard, you know that other people said

979
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 1: that that Chris Reid did not have a good game.

980
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: That's garbage. Okay, did he have a bad game, No,

981
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: did he have a great game, No, But he had

982
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: a solid game. His performance wasn't hindering you from winning now,

983
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: So I thought it was a solid performance for him

984
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: for a guy that has most of his snaps in

985
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: his career as a left guard, not a right guard.

986
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: And there's a difference when you play the two of

987
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: them now that it's you know, it's like being left

988
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: handed right hand and sometimes for certain guys. I thought

989
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: he was good. I thought the offensive line as a

990
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: whole had a winning performance. I thought he was exceptional.

991
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: You've always liked him, do you? I liked him because

992
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, one his weakness has always been power and

993
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: rap Po is a powerful player. He handled it and

994
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: I give him credit because you know, the week before

995
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: it was Adrian Clayborne. He handled it. So Josh Wells

996
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: is I mean gold star? I mean gold star performance

997
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: for me this past week. I thought Parnell was okay,

998
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: uh good enough? Um, And I think Norwell got better again.

999
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: You know, I got better from the first game to

1000
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: the second game, in the second game to the third game.

1001
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: And so the offensive line, to me, don't point any

1002
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: fingers at that group at all. If you're Nathaniel Hackett

1003
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: and Keenan mccartel and even coach marroon this week, what

1004
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: are you telling that offense to step up against the Jets. Well,

1005
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: here's what I hope happens. I hope that first of all,

1006
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: the coaches find a way to get the players step up.

1007
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: But I want to see it come from within. You

1008
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: want to start to see your quarterback, you know, have

1009
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: more expectation out of himself, and then he demands more

1010
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: out of wide receiver group, okay, and then the wide

1011
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: receivers start demanding more out of each other. Because the

1012
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 1: best kind of leadership and to get in the best

1013
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of production comes from the pressure to perform. That

1014
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: comes from within. And I'm when I say within, I'm

1015
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: talking about peer pressure amongst teammates. That's the best kind

1016
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: that you can have. And hopefully that will happen this week,

1017
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: whether it be defensive players putting pressure on the offense,

1018
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: and that has to be kind of you gotta be

1019
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: careful there because then it becomes kind of like, oh,

1020
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: are you pointing fingers at me? Okay? But there can

1021
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: it can be accomplished without finger pointing. Well, the defense

1022
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: and they didn't say it. If I asked Jalen, I said,

1023
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: you know, is there a do you even look at

1024
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: that or or does that stay away from it? He said,

1025
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: we're staying away from it. And the reality of it

1026
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: is is the expectation. When you're the offense, you have

1027
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: to feel the pressure of having that dominant defense on

1028
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: the other side, and when they give you nine points,

1029
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: you expect to win everything every time. I mean, I

1030
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: mean anything less than seventeen points, Yeah, that's I mean,

1031
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: that's that's typically you know alfenses. Yeah, And I mean

1032
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: I would say with this defense, I mean, your expectation

1033
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: is is fourteen I mean fourteen points unless you should win.

1034
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: So the one thing that I can point to that

1035
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: this defense didn't do well, and there may be more,

1036
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: it was deja vous all over again with Mariota. I mean,

1037
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: he did this to them in the game up there

1038
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: in January third doubt in five he runs for seven

1039
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: yards right now, the I think the disappointing part with

1040
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: the one run that he had, which was the third

1041
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: down and trying to get the ball back and you

1042
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna run it. I mean, and I

1043
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: thought that they should have been more of a true

1044
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: zero coverage type blitz or whatever, you know, stacking guys

1045
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and saying look ahead and

1046
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: try to throw it. You know, if you can throw

1047
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: it with two numb fingers, you know, good luck and

1048
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: uh and they didn't do that, so I think that

1049
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: was probably a mistake. And then looking back on it,

1050
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: they probably would have changed the call there. He's just

1051
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: when when when he went into the game, I said

1052
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: to Ashton, I said, oh, just because he has this history,

1053
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: ran for fourth third day, not fourth third duns, four

1054
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 1: first downs on Sunday, and he just he has that knack.

1055
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: He's a good player. And the reality is is that

1056
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: he you know a lot of people say, well, you know,

1057
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: maybe he was benched. You know, yeah, they want to

1058
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: gather in there. I mean he really he honestly, his

1059
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: pinky ring finger their numb you know, from talking to

1060
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: a couple of people, could put no mustard on the ball.

1061
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: He has two numb fingers, and for a quarterback, you know,

1062
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of a kind of a problem.

1063
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: And so uh uh, he's a good football player. Who

1064
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: give the Titans credit? And you know that this is

1065
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: a game that I really expected the Jaguars to get

1066
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: over the hump against the Titans and they didn't do it.

1067
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: And and you know what, kudos to the Titans because

1068
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: you know what, they're whooping his team's but consistently. You know,

1069
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: you're in a year l have won five of the

1070
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: last six. How before we go, how about a thought

1071
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: on the rookie quarterback coming in here. He's had moments

1072
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: where he looks like a prodigy and now the last

1073
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: couple of games not so much more like a rookie.

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00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: How do you handle that? I think you've you put

1075
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: the heat on them. Their offensive line had a hard

1076
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: time protecting against the Cleveland Browns last Thursday night, and

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00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: I think you have to kind of I want to say,

1078
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: you know, completely emulate that game plan, but it's got

1079
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: to be something similar in your fashion. Because Sam Donald

1080
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: at times his eyes dropped, he got nervous, his feet

1081
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: were all over the place, you know, And it was

1082
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: pretty neat watching that ball game because you know, you're

1083
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: doing a comparison between uh, Sam Donald and then Baker Mayfield,

1084
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: and it was and I can tell you right now

1085
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: from my watching both of them a couple of different games,

1086
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking Baker Mayfield really, he's that he's got kind

1087
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: of a far Van playmaker kind of Yeah, he he

1088
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: can handle. He can handle the bigger moments. I think,

1089
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, and when he came in he's got quick release,

1090
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: I mean unbelievably quick release. We know he's accurate. Look

1091
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: at his numbers in college, and his numbers are are

1092
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: pretty good so far in the pros. But it was

1093
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: fun to watch that game just from that standpoint of

1094
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: here you are, you got the first overall pick and

1095
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: the third overall pick, and which one is gonna be

1096
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: the best guy? You know? And there's all the quarterbacks

1097
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: too that are gonna be evaluate it kind of as

1098
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: part of that conversation too, what you got come up

1099
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: in fild room Friday? Do you know yet? I do.

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00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: We're actually gonna look at Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald.

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00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 1: All right, it should be a nice comparison. More quick thought, Um,

1102
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: who's the best player on that defense they've got? They've

1103
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: got Leonard Williams and Jamal Adams, who I think are

1104
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: one and two. Leonard Williams hasn't taken the step up

1105
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: that I thought that he would, because you know, he

1106
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: was always very good against the run. You big, strong

1107
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: and long, but you know, look, if you're gonna be

1108
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: considered one of the better defensive line in the league,

1109
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: you pass rush. He only had two sacks last and

1110
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: Henry Anderson, who was a Colts draft pick who stand

1111
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: had the knee injury, and now they have him. He's

1112
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: probably a better pass rusher than Leonard Williams. Jamal Adams

1113
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: is a heart and soul of that defense. He's a

1114
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: fantastic player and I'm looking forward to watching the matchup

1115
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: of him against the Jaguars offense, and in particular Uh

1116
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: A S F R A s J because former teammate

1117
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, and you know and and Adams uh likes

1118
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: to talk and when things don't go well, you can

1119
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: see that here's a player that kind of comes unraveled

1120
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I wouldn't be surprised. Number eighty

1121
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: eight wants to see if he can climb underneath of

1122
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: some skin in this game. Should be fine. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: should be a lot of time. Thanks so much, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. On Tuesdays, that's Jeff Logavan, Ashlyn Sullivan, Bryan Sexton, Jacks.

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Speaker 1: Drive Time completes on a Tuesday morning and will return tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: John Osier is back to get a big show play

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Speaker 1: for you. For Joe Fortunato and Stone Cold. We will

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Speaker 1: sign off for now. We'll let you wonder who Stone

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Speaker 1: Cold is