1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hut. Let's go, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Let's go Giants like get out on the Giants moubuling, 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: give me some job. Part of the Giants Podcast Network. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: Let's row. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: I am John Schmoll. Thank you so much for being 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: with us today. 9 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Good guest, very excited about this first time he's come 10 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: on The Giants Little Podcast, and we're thrilled to have him. 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Former NFL quarterback, a thirteen year starter and backup in 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: the National Football League, Chase Daniel. And now we welcome 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: in longtime NFL quarterback in the league for thirteen years, 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: Chase Daniel. 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Chase, what's going on? Man? 16 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Hey? 17 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: How's it going? Appreciate you having me, man. 18 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm really excited to talk to you. 19 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: You can find Chase on Scoop City, the podcast for 20 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: the athletic. You can also find them on the Facility 21 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports one. How are you enjoying a football 22 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: media life? 23 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: Man, It's been good, you know, it's definitely a different change. 24 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: Was what I was used to for fourteen years or 25 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: eighteen years or how many However, many years I played 26 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: football right like, I always had an eye out and 27 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: I always respected what everyone did that covered the sport 28 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: because you know, we're taught as players. Hey hate the media. 29 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 3: Hate the media like they're just and it's just completely 30 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: opposite of that. You guys have a job to do. 31 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: We have a job to do, and without the media, 32 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: the sport doesn't get us coverage it deserves. So I 33 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: did some stuff, you know, while I was playing, and 34 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: I felt like a I either wanted to coach, which 35 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: I've had offers to coach, but my wife would divorce me. 36 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: And that's that's probably a very true statement. Or it 37 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: was like going to media. So like I always knew 38 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: I want to do something football. The media stuff has 39 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: been great. I mean, to get on a Fox Sports 40 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: show and then to be with Diana Verssini and then 41 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: the YouTube channel. It's just been ever evolving and we're 42 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: just continuing to grow. Man. 43 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find Chase on Twitter. He puts a 44 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: lot of great stuff up on Twitter as well, like 45 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: as Jackson darp Breakdown's up there right now from I 46 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: believe last Thursday night or maybe last Friday. That's up there, 47 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: and you cant check out his YouTube channel as well. 48 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: All right, Chase, let's start real basics. 49 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: When as a former NFL quarterback, when you first put 50 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: on the college tape of a draft prospect that plays 51 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: the position, what are the first few things you look 52 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: for that are must haves for you if he's gonna 53 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: have success in the NFL. 54 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, it's not even physical, Like, I don't look 55 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: at the physical. I look how he gets in and 56 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: out of the huddle. Like I got some video footage 57 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: that teams use, like how does he react to teammates 58 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: when he throws a good ball but it's dropped? How 59 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: are the intangibles are you seeing this? Are you seeing that? 60 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: How does he handle protections? Is he running a pro 61 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: style offense? Like? All those things are what I look 62 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: at first, And I would say a lot of times 63 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: like scouts and gms and head coaches and offensive corners 64 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: look at that. And then when you're like, okay, like 65 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: this dude understands it. He gets the position of quarterback, 66 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: because you would be surprised how many times quarterbacks, especially 67 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: they're just flying by the seat of their pants and 68 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: it's really hard to tell just watching film. But I've 69 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: watched enough. I've been with enough Hall of Fame coaches 70 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: Andy Reid, Sean Payton, I've been with the Hall of 71 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: Fame quarterback Drew Brees. Like I understand what should look like. 72 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: And then once I have that, I really go to 73 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: looking at how he throws the football, not necessarily arm strength. 74 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: Does he throw on time and in rhythm? Can he 75 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: see it well? Is he able to find holes in 76 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: zone coverage if it's man to man. Does he have 77 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: the opportunity to check to a man beater? Is he 78 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: getting to the right stuff at the right time. And 79 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: then obviously, like when you watch enough of that, you're 80 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: gonna see the arm talent come through. You're gonna see 81 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: the arm strength come through. So it's really just and 82 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: a lot of people do this. They just like, oh 83 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: my gosh, he throws the ball really hard. Yeah, but 84 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: did the ball go to the right spot. Yeah, it's 85 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: cover four, or it's say it's cover two. He threw 86 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: a hitch and a cover too. Ah, you know, why 87 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: do he do that in the league. You know, one 88 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: of the corners for the Denver Broncos, Patrick Stain, He's 89 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: picking that off and running it back to the house 90 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: now you can't get you can't get into that stuff 91 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: at the next level. So I think all encompassing those 92 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: are pretty much the things I focus on. 93 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny chase for me and and for someone 94 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: that hasn't played the position. I'm not one of these 95 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: guys that thinks because I played Madden ten years ago. 96 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: I know how concepts work. I know there are a 97 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: lot of reporters out there that do actually think that, 98 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: which is insane and unless to me, unless I know 99 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: what the coach is teaching the quarterback how to go 100 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: through play, how am I supposed to know if he's 101 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: making the right decision. How am I supposed to know 102 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: if he's doing his progressions right? I don't know what 103 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: he's being taught. You have a much better shot at 104 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: that than I do. But I think it's probably even 105 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: tough for you without knowing what, no doubt coaches is 106 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: teaching the guy. 107 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Right. 108 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: So when you look a guy like Jackson and you 109 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: know that that type of Lane Kiffin offense that they 110 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: run down there, which a lot of time you're just 111 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: putting one guy into conflict, right, and you're trying to 112 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: work off that one guy, what do you see and 113 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: how do you think he does that in terms of 114 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: getting through his progressions. 115 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was like when I first started 116 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 3: watching the film. I mean I watched about every game 117 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: last year. My favorite game was this Georgia game without 118 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: a doubt because he was hurt, competitor came back in, 119 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: got his ankle, shut up, and finished the game with 120 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: a win. But when you're looking at Lane Kiffin's offense, 121 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: I was first looking and I'm like, man, they run 122 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: the same six plays over and over again, just from 123 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: formations and different motions and stuff. 124 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: And I'm like, ah, if I watched that slot player 125 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: run the flag underneath the go outside one more time 126 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: and you had the deep over under the shallow cross, It's. 127 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: Like just a bunch of deep overs shallow crosses. And 128 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: so that's great. But I do think towards the end 129 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: of the season, Lane, I wouldn't say runs in NFL offense, 130 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 3: but I started seeing some NFL concepts where I'm like okay, 131 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: and I sort of rewatched some of the early stuff. 132 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I can see how this is working. 133 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: I thought Lane did a hell of a job last year, 134 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: and and you know, Jackson is a really competitive guy, 135 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: but he put up a lot of stats and people 136 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: are like, well, stats don't tell well, this is the 137 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: best conference in the world right now in college in 138 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: the SEC, so you definitely want to see production. And 139 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: when you're watching it, you're like, Okay, I can see 140 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: what he's seeing. I would say, the one thing, I'm 141 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: sure we'll get into it. But the one thing about 142 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: the offense is it's a lot of single like one one, 143 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: meaning like, hey, you're just working the left side of 144 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: the field. You have option one, you have option two, 145 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: let's take off and run. And he is a hell 146 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: of a runner, like I would say, one of the 147 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: best runners in this class at quarterback. I mean, he 148 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 3: averaged almost five hundred yards rushing as he's in the 149 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: three seasons it'll miss and over double digit touchdowns he averaged. 150 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 3: I did this the other night. He averaged like one 151 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty one carries a year. That's a lot. 152 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: So you have to go back, how much is that 153 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: called runs versus how much is that scrambling verus how 154 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: much is that is the offense And that's a little 155 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: bit of everything. But for me, I would have loved 156 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: to see through the duration of his career, and he 157 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 3: got a lot better from year to year. Like these 158 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: full field reads in the NFL, they're so vitally important. Yeah, 159 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 3: you know, you can't have half field reads on under 160 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: center play action stuff. You didn't see him do that 161 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: a lot. But if he can get to that full 162 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: field reads, I liken it to what Jaden Daniels did 163 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: two years ago at LSU. People are like, Oh, he's 164 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: an amazing run. The dude was a pocket passer and 165 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: he got through his so quickly. I think Jackson can 166 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: do that. I just think the offense didn't really allow 167 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: for him to do that. If that makes sense. 168 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: No, I think that makes a ton of sense. 169 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: And you talk about his taking off and running and 170 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: the way I like to talk about quarterbacks first, their 171 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: pocket presence, right, how do they handle pressure? And I 172 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: like the way Jackson steps up through pressure. 173 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: Right. 174 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I don't want to make this a 175 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: shuit or conversation, but he tends to run backwards when 176 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: he got pressure, right, Yep, he likes to move up 177 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: and forwards. But I do feel like and there were 178 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: a couple of plays, one at the end of that 179 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Georgia game where he kind of threw it backwards to 180 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: the guy. 181 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: In the flat on one of those drives. 182 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he I feel like, and tell me if 183 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: you think I'm wrong. Dark tends to scramble to run 184 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: more than he scrambles to throw. You don't see a 185 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: lot of scrambling outside the pocket and making a throw 186 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: kind of on the move a lot. 187 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's and that's exactly right, Like when you 188 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: look at cam Moore, because I'm just I'm just trying 189 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: to not compare the two. But when you look at 190 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: cam Woard, cam Woard gets out of the pocket better 191 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: than probably anyone in the class. But he doesn't run. 192 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: He gets out of the pocket to throw, and so 193 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: he's always got his eyes on the field. That's like, 194 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: that's hard to teach with Jackson. He just trust his 195 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: athletic ability and his running abilities so much that I 196 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: don't fault him for that because he's a lot faster 197 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: and he's a lot more athletic than you look. I 198 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: like him to like, he's a more athletic bow Knicks. 199 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: But if you watch Bo Nicks in his last year 200 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: in college two years ago, he was running a lot 201 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: and he was running away from people, and it's like 202 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: sneaky athletic like comes to mind, So I don't mind that. 203 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: I do think the way the games go, and really 204 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: the past three or four years, really five years, I 205 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: would say half a decade. You got to have someone 206 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: to get out of trouble when the pocket collapses. Because 207 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: nowadays you have maybe two seconds to make a decision. 208 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: I would say, like a decade ago when I was playing, 209 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: it was like two and a half. That extra half 210 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: second gets on you quickly, especially with how good defensive 211 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: lines are getting. And I wouldn't say the Giants offensive 212 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: line was bad last year, but you have to be 213 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: able to have a guy. 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Because everything is going so fast? 236 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: But to you watching it as a quarterback, can you 237 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: slow it down and find the right player and deliver 238 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: it to them on time? When you watch Jackson try 239 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: to do that, what did you say? 240 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? For the most part good. I mean, look, the 241 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 3: more you play, that's why I mean, Jackson's only twenty one, 242 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 3: but he played three years in the SEC, so he's 243 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 3: at a prime spot for his growth and they can 244 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: continue to get there. But I even went into a 245 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Watch them just the growth and 246 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: development from his like second year at Old Miss to 247 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: his last year at Old Miss. Last year, it was effective. 248 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: Man Like I'm not gonna say he's like sees it 249 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: right away, perfect every time. But you see that growth, 250 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: and the game definitely slowed down. And the reason people 251 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: don't understand this, the reason why it slows down is 252 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: because you're a master at your offense. You're not wondering 253 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: what you're doing offensively. You know what you're doing offensively. 254 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: You can read and study defenses, and you know gone 255 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: through the days of this defense just sitting in a 256 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: four to three cover too. They're constantly moving. I thought 257 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: he did that really well when defenses showed him different looks. 258 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: When he had Manda man coverage, he could find a 259 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: zone beater or he could find an out if needed. 260 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 3: So I don't think he got tricked a lot. And 261 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: that's hard to do because college are getting better and better. 262 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: Obviously you make the jump to the NFL, the game 263 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: is fifty times faster than it is. So it'll be 264 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: interesting to see how early he gets on the field. 265 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: If Brian day Ball and co. Think he's ready with 266 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 3: Jamis and with Russell in the quarterback. 267 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: Room and you're right with the shell deef, everyone starts 268 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: in too high safety now and then they post snap, 269 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: they go into different coverages. 270 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: If he can do that, I think that'll certainly help 271 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: him a lot. 272 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: And I thought watching it, and after they drafted him, 273 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: I went back Friday morning, I watched his last three 274 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: games of the year, and I agree with you. I 275 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: think you did see some different concepts in there. And 276 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: I also think when that first read is there, he 277 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: does throw with anticipation, like he will get the ball 278 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: out before the guys in and out of his breaks. 279 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's no doubt about that. I think. I 280 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: think that's the biggest thing for quarterbacks, right, Like I 281 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: think sometimes that's why it's difficult for rookie quarterbacks to 282 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: have success. Now we've gotten really lucky, and we've gotten 283 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: really blessed, and we've gotten really spoiled for the last 284 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: two years. Right, you have CJ. Stroud two years ago, 285 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: and you have what Jayden Daniels and really bo nixed it. 286 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: That's not the norm. So all this pressure is on 287 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: these guys, Hey, you got to cut, You've got a 288 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: ball out right away. What they did is extraordinary, is 289 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: it's not normal. And so with Jackson he does see it. 290 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: If he does see it, he throws it with anticipation. 291 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: The biggest thing that I saw really that stood out 292 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: for me maybe more maybe cam Wardish maybe more than 293 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: any other prospect, which which like I started watching him 294 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: in February. I'm like, I put on a tweet like 295 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: Valentine's d like Jackson Dart's gonna be a first rounder 296 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: just because the lack of talent in the quarterback class. 297 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: But this one thing was he was able to layer throws. Now, 298 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: the teams play so much zone defense in the NFL 299 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: and a lot of its match outside, a lot of 300 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: its zone in between. You have to be able to 301 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: throw in between the numbers to be a successful offense 302 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: in the NFL. He's able to layer throws. He's got 303 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: a better arm strength than Brock Party, but he likens 304 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 3: a little bit to Rock Party, where he's putting over 305 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 3: that second level of defenders between the second and third 306 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: level before the safeties. And I think that's a really 307 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: hard skill to learn, because if you look at college 308 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: ball these days, a lot of quarterbacks saying one, two, three, 309 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: four five throwing a go ball about fifty yards in 310 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: the air, about seventy yards down the field, and that's 311 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: just not normal, Like that doesn't happen in the NFL. 312 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: There's more of these intermediate timing throws, and I think 313 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: that's something Jackson does really well. 314 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's accurate, and I'm with you. 315 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: I think while he doesn't have a cannon arm, he 316 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: has an arm that's good enough to make all the throws. 317 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: In your breakdown on Twitter, you show the out from 318 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: the opposite hash, which is a. 319 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: Very tough throat to make in college. But I'm with you. 320 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: I think I saw. 321 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: I know they don't throw to the tight end much, 322 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: but there was one seam route I forget what game 323 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: was where he puts it right over Yeah, the linebacker's hands. 324 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: It was like a three vertical with a shallow cross. 325 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: They run that. That's one of the plays. But yeah, 326 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: he just put it over the hook curl defender. 327 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 328 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: And then on one of the other concepts we talked about, 329 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: when they're running that flag underneath to go outside, he 330 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: is to get it underneath that cover two shallow cornerbacks sometimes, 331 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: and he laid it over him a couple of times 332 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: on that flag rounde. So I do think the accuracy 333 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: in touch in the intermediate, and he's not afraid the 334 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: throw it to the middle of. 335 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: The field either. I think that'll start from very well 336 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 337 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. And look, there's things for everyone 338 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: to get better at. Right, Like you would say, his 339 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: decision making is is okay, it's not like the best 340 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: like when he gets locked on and he knows where 341 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: to go, that's great, And that's what we talked about. Right, 342 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: It's like the progression reads and the decision making and 343 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: really just and it's not just Jackson. I think this 344 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: is just how college ball is. Coaches like, hey, one 345 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: read if you can run take off, dude, that's not 346 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: gonna fly. 347 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Last year when kill yeah there, it was just chaos. 348 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: One hundred percent, and that's not how you develop. You 349 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: have to be okay sometimes, especially as an NFL quarterback, 350 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: as throwing the football away or not taking a sack 351 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: or not turning the football over. It sounds crazy and 352 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: it sounds cliche, but like when you're grading plays as 353 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator or a quarterback coach, if you come 354 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: in on Monday after you play Sunday, right, there's plus 355 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: plays which means amazing throws, third down conversions, touchdowns like this. 356 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: Then there's minus throws like ah, you know, probably shouldn't 357 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: throw it there, a turn over, a sack, this, and 358 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: there's just zeros. It's okay to live in the zeros, 359 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: and you want to have those plus plays. The zero 360 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: plays are fine. A throwaway is not bad. Don't put 361 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: yourself in a second at long a run checking to 362 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: a run. If you're not, that's not bad. I think 363 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: that's what sometimes these young rookie quarterbacks struggle with because 364 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: they feel like they have to make every single throw. 365 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: And you can only get better at that by the 366 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: more experience and the more playtime you have. Yeah. 367 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: I think two other things that I noticed. 368 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: I think sometimes he gets a little brave and throws 369 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: the ball into a couple of team meetings. We saw 370 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: that down the field a couple of first Yeah. And 371 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: then I think there were a couple of plays too. 372 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: And this was more earlier in the year when I 373 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: watched him when his feet aren't completely set. His ball 374 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: location on some of his gos, his deep balls can 375 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: be a little bit off, and I thought he underthrew 376 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: some of those, especially on a couple of posts earlier 377 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: in the year. Nice late in the year down the 378 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: sideline that were great, but I thought some of his 379 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: location on his deep doughs, maybe because he doesn't have 380 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: that a plus arm we're lacking at times during the year. 381 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I think a lot of those 382 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: if you just look, it's like every quarterback struggles with it. 383 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: But it's accuracy under pressure. Like a lot of those throws, 384 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: there's somebody in his face, and the more pressure you face, 385 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: the harder it is for these receivers in college or 386 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: SEC defenders to get open and to create space and 387 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: to really trust your receivers. I think that's probably gonna 388 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: be the biggest thing he has to work on at 389 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: the next level is just hey, when you are pressure, because, 390 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: let's face it, like you're facing a clean pocket twenty 391 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: five percent of the time right thirty five percent of 392 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: the time, the other seventy five percent of the time 393 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: it's a dirty pocket or you're on the move. That's 394 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: why Patrick Mahomes and all these guys are so good 395 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: because they feel good in tight spaces in phone booths. 396 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily see that from Jackson. It doesn't show 397 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: up a lot, but it's like these phone booth throws, 398 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: are you cool with everyone around you and you're able 399 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: to shortstep and you're able to fire your arm and 400 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: not be able to fall through. And are you accurate? 401 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: Usually the guys with strong arms are like that. So 402 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: Jackson struggled in a little. 403 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Bit of that. 404 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, and now you let's talk about the 405 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: blitzpeck up. You talked about little bit how he doesn't 406 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: get fooled. How did you see him handling different blitz looks? 407 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: I know you feature a lot in that Georgia game. Yeah. 408 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: Look, I think for the most part, that offense allowed 409 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: him to change protections. What I saw a lot in 410 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: the Georgia game, And a few times it was early 411 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: after he came back, they kept running half back choice 412 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 3: because Georgia kept blitzing up the middle and they kept 413 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: just hey, just half back choice, free release, free release release. 414 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: He knew when that was coming. And I'm like, that's 415 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: awesome because they just started in a two show. Look, 416 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: he knew exactly, Hey, get off the first read, get 417 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 3: to my heart, get off my first read, throw the flat. 418 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: And he almost was a point guard of the football. 419 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: And that's what you need to be, especially versus pressures 420 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: like hey, lock in, don't try to hold it, don't 421 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: try to make that superman throw. And I think that's 422 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: something he did really well. 423 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: All right, Now he's in the NFL. He's with the 424 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: New York Football Giants. Explain to me and fans what 425 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: a quartermack development process looks like. 426 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: He's fortunate to have two veterans in front of him. 427 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: Yea that the Giants can play for a while if 428 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: they want. What does this development process look like for 429 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart as he tries to get ready to play 430 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: in an NFL game? 431 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: Well, one, I think that the thing that I've heard, 432 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: and I think that Brian Daboll loved about him and 433 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: some other teams loved about him. That really shot him 434 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: up draft boards. As his competitiveness, right like, he is 435 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: a freaking competitor and he does not scour or look 436 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: down or dismiss any competition. And that's what it is 437 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: right now, right, I would imagine Russell Wilson will start. 438 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: Jamis is obviously a great teammate. He's in a factor 439 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: into that. But let's be real, at some point this year, 440 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart's gonna play, and if he does play and 441 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: play well, it's all about how he's gonna get developed, 442 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: and that starts from OTAs he might not be getting 443 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: you know, the second team reps. He might be getting 444 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 3: third team reps, which is probably the case is gonna happen. 445 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: They're gonna make him earn his keep, which I think 446 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: is smart. But in those reps, right, you're gonna be 447 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: working off on the side with a quarterback coach. It's 448 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 3: not gonna be like it's gonna be like Jamis and 449 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: Russell obviously like quarterback coach OC day ball. They're gonna 450 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: be doing their thing. But a lot of times when 451 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: these rookies come in and they're a first shound talent, 452 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: they are like saying, hey, you have this one coach. 453 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: You first of all have to get up to speed offensively, 454 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: because the offense is completely different, probably than anything you've 455 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: ever done in your entire life. I would say that's 456 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: the first thing you master, and then it's like, hey, 457 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 3: after practices because in OTA's in training camp. You know, 458 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: depending on the rep situation, if you're the three, you 459 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: might get twelve reps a day. If you're the one, 460 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: you're getting forty. In those twelve reps, guess what six 461 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: of those are runs, the seventh one is a screen, 462 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 3: and the next four or five are throws. And it 463 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: might be a stick route. It might be an hour. 464 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: You might not right be able to get these your 465 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: arm strength and arm talent all one, it's okay. Just 466 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: take it day by day, step by step, and after 467 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: practice walk through all the plays that the ones did, 468 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: so you're getting those reps with the quarterback. I think 469 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 3: it varies from team to team, but the teams I've 470 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: been with that have developed quarterbacks even starters continually, that's 471 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 3: that's usually the process on what they do, all right, 472 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: and then once. 473 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: To see he's probably gonna run the scout team, I 474 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: would imagine, Right, that's probably gonna be the one practice 475 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: I would think. 476 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: And I think that once the season starts, that's the 477 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: that's the hardest thing because you're not running the Giants offense. 478 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: If your Giants are playing at the Eagles in Week 479 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: four Jackson dart Is Jalen Hurts the whole week, you 480 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: are not going to be running any of the starting 481 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: plays at the starting office with Russell Wilson or Jamis 482 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: Winson runs. You're gonna be running Eagles plays. And so 483 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: that's why it's really difficult during the season to develop. 484 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 3: But a lot of times what you would do is 485 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: after practice is before your meetings, you would walk through 486 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: the script, which is like the practice script that the 487 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: ones ran, and you would go through all of them. 488 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 3: That's what I've done, That's what other quarterbacks have done, 489 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 3: and they would actually get those throws in real time. 490 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: So you're actually out there an extra thirty to forty 491 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 3: five minutes walking through the script with the quarterback. You're 492 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 3: calling the plays, you're breaking the huddle like a puddle, 493 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: and you got one receiver spotting up. I think that's 494 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: the best way to do it. 495 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 496 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your match. 497 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: But if you're wondering about it long term financial plan, 498 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: you should talk to citizens. 499 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: Hey, I can also talk long care I'd like to 500 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: learn about Amolli routine. Yes, I knew I could help 501 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: make sense of your money with citizens. 502 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: How much can he learn just being in a meeting 503 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: room with Russell Wilson watching him break down a defense, 504 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: watching doing board work with the coach, doing film work, 505 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: rewatching the games on Monday with the team to see 506 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: what mistakes Russ or Jamis makes and how you correct them, 507 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: what defenses are doing. How much as a young player. 508 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: Can you learn off the field in the meeting room life? 509 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a lot. And I think you're 510 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: not necessarily learning how to play the game. You're learning 511 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: how to prep. You're you're and he should be a sponge. 512 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: He should soak in everything that Russell that jamis that 513 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: the quarterback coach at the office that they tell them, 514 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: So you're just consistently soaking up. You're consistently soaking up 515 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: to your heavy and then when you ring it out, 516 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: it's time to go to the field. Right, It's like, Hey, 517 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: everything I learned, let's go out there, Let's put it out. 518 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: And that sponge analogy is used from Andy Read. That 519 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: sponge analogy is used from Sean Payton and Drew Brees. 520 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 3: It's one of those things, Hey, I was told like 521 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: when I was the third string quarterback my rookie year 522 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: by my offensive coordinator because I was an undrafted free agent. 523 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: But I was number three behind Mark Renell and Drew Brees. 524 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 3: The first day because I wasn't there in training camp, 525 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: I got cut by the Washington football team the first day. 526 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: I remember I said, hey, coach, how can they get better? 527 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: To my offensive coordinator, Joe Lombardi, who is like one 528 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: of my best friends right now in the football league. 529 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: He said, just to what Drew does, just just I'm like, uh, 530 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: all right, Like he's like, all right, let's all right, 531 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: Well I'm gonna do it. He can emulate Russell Wilson, 532 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: he can emulate Jameis Winson, but at the end of 533 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: the day, he's got to put his own flavor on it. 534 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: And real growth, real growth made. It does not come 535 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: until you experience, and it might be a good experience, 536 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: it might be a bad experience. You have to get 537 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: onto the field and play. 538 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: All right, Two more questions for you, Chase, is this 539 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: whole veteran quarterback mentor the young quarterback or real thing? 540 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: Or is the starting quarterback you're still obsessed with getting 541 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: ready to play the game that he can't really be 542 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: bothered with this guy over here that's trying to figure 543 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: things out out. 544 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I think it depends on 545 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: the guy. Everything that I know about Russell Wilson, he 546 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: lives like literally down the street in San Diego from me. 547 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: His kids go to the same school as my school. 548 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 3: Everything I've known about Russell Wilson is a teammate. It's great, 549 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: you know. At the same time, Russell's like, I don't 550 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: want you to take my job, bro, Like I ain't 551 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 3: gonna give you every single secret. But at the same time, 552 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: it's part of the team, so like I want to 553 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: help you, bring you along. Same with Jamis. Right, Jamis 554 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 3: is like great team one of the best teammates of 555 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: all time. You talk to any of his teammates, his 556 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: his pregame speeches might be, you know, a little much 557 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: for some people, but for the most part, like people 558 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 3: love him and like Jamis could be that guy, and 559 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: I think that that's the best thing for Jackson. It's 560 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: just to go in with an open mind. Man. Whatever 561 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: happens happens. But at the end of the day, man, 562 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: you're trying to compete for the starting job. You're trying 563 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback for the New York Football Giants, man, 564 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 3: and that is a huge deal in New York. The 565 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: spotlights on you. So you got to work your tail off. 566 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: And then finally, with his skill set, how do you 567 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: see him fitting in the way Brian Dable runs his 568 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: offense and how how long that process might be from 569 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: the figure out an offense that is notoriously pretty complicated 570 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: to be yeah with. 571 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: You, it's complicated and it's worthy. But sometimes when coaches 572 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: know that and know they're coming from a college offense, 573 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: they'll they'll tailor some things if he's the starter. So 574 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. Look, I know that Brian 575 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: Dable obviously coach Josh Allen for four or five years 576 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 3: in Orchard part with Buffalo, and I'm not gonna make 577 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: that because that's not I'm not going to make that 578 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 3: assumption or comparison because that's not fair to Jackson. But 579 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: the running abilities there, like he understands Briandable understands what 580 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: it takes to do that. And if you remember, like 581 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: Josh Allen wasn't awesome, He wasn't all world beaters his 582 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: first two years. Right, I just don't know if Jackson dart, 583 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: if he plays, if he has that ability, Like he's 584 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: got to be good right away for these giants to win. 585 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: Man, So you think Halloween or Thanksgiving for a reasonable 586 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: time to get him on the phone. 587 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's before Thanksgiving. It's before Thanksgiving for sure. 588 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: I think it has to be. 589 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: So get your Halloween mask on, folks, That's what you 590 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: might start having a little bit of fun. 591 00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: Chase good stuff. 592 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 2: Anything you want to tell the folks about what you're 593 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: up to before we say goodbye. 594 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: Now, man, Just the Facility on FS one every single 595 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: day ten pm ten am Eastern Scoop City podcast on 596 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 3: the Athletic. You can find us on YouTube and then 597 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: my YouTube channel itself. It's all the quarterback breakdowns I 598 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: post on Twitter so like that. It's just Chase Daniel show, 599 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: So check me out. 600 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: I can't believe Dana puts the phone down long enough 601 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: to do a podcast. Has she stopped the podcast in 602 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: the middle of a record to take a ball before? 603 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, one hundred times we just cut it out. 604 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: I figured Chase good stuff man, Thank you very much. 605 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. 606 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: That's longtime NFL quarterback Chase Daniel. 607 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: You can find him on Scoop City, a podcast for 608 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: the Athletic, and you also find them on the Facility 609 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports one every weekday. Thank you so much 610 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: for being with us in the Giants Little podcast brought 611 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: to you by Citizens the official bank of the Giants. 612 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: I am John Schmilk for Chase Daniel. We'll see you 613 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: next time. 614 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: Everybody