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Speaker 1: What would you do in this situation, Probably what this

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Speaker 1: you're gonna drop off your date and you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: upset about how the date went or about how the

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Speaker 1: date is ending. I don't recommend that you say anything

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Speaker 1: once the door is closed in front of your date's house.

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Speaker 1: Why well, because there's such a thing as a rain

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Speaker 1: to this for dropping me off and stuff? Sure sure

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Speaker 1: sure you don't want me to come inside? There a drink?

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Speaker 1: I'm an excellent partender. First of all, it's so cringey,

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Speaker 1: so cringey, you don't want me to come in and drink?

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Speaker 1: I'm an excellent bartender. No, I like, if I had

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Speaker 1: any inclination to do so, then I just lost my boner.

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Speaker 1: But lot of fun. No me too, Thanks again for

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Speaker 1: dropping me off and stuff. Sure sure sure you don't

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Speaker 1: want me to come inside? There a drink? I'm an

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Speaker 1: excellent parttenders. I bought some New Girl very nick from

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Speaker 1: New Girl code that have been told tempting. I'm so tired.

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Speaker 1: Maybe next time tired it gets worse time. Okay, he

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Speaker 1: chooses to just stand there. Oh, and thanks for paying

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Speaker 1: for dinner, by the way. By the way, Oh, but

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Speaker 1: you can't come inside? Why not? Why not? I can't

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Speaker 1: because you were nice to be all night. You see,

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Speaker 1: he's got something going on, something like there's a screw

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Speaker 1: in the ring camera. I mean, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: First of all, First of all, the game is weak,

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Speaker 1: and and that's coming from a guy that doesn't have

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Speaker 1: like would you like to come in, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you if you're sure, Like I'm gonna drop you off.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk you to the door, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: leave because I'm not. I'm not going to beg anyone

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Speaker 1: let me in their home. Second of all, like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't even take no for an answer, Like he keeps

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Speaker 1: I think good with my hands. Who it's just so cringey.

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Speaker 1: And then and then the whole little little uh uh

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Speaker 1: this expectation that because you were nice or something that

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Speaker 2: Do you see that?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're still a girl coding. We're still of

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Speaker 1: that mindset that if I pay for a date, that

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Speaker 1: I should get to come in Like, that's still the

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Speaker 1: mindset greatly. That should be the expectation if I asked

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Speaker 1: dude asking him. It doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. Well,

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Speaker 1: we can get into genial gender roles and all this whatever.

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Speaker 1: My point is, I if I ask you out, whoever

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Speaker 1: then I should be expected to pay, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: because I extended the invitation. Yes, that's that's it. That's that,

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Speaker 1: and I should have no expectation. Now I realized that

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Speaker 1: that's not that. There are a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there who have that expectation that if they're dumb enough

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Speaker 1: to believe this, somehow they're owed something if they treat

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Speaker 1: you well. Now, is there anything to the nice guy thing?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything to the nice guy being too nice

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Speaker 1: versus the edgy dude maybe getting some advantages because he's

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Speaker 2: No, I think being nice as the bare man a

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Speaker 2: moment I'm in a human being, but I think the

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Speaker 2: the whole edgy bad boy thing that it was never

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Speaker 2: like my thing. Maybe when I was eight with my

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Speaker 2: drug you other boyfriend for like an hour that was that

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Speaker 2: being nice to be expected, like you said, the expectation

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Speaker 2: like I'm nice to you guys, are my coworkers.

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Speaker 1: I want I want to be nice everybody. I think

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Speaker 2: Not totally okay, I can see that, or like the

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Speaker 2: But you're right, maybe I am semi healed, right because like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like I think we're we're getting they're just supporting you

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Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, I just think it's like

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Speaker 3: I feel like when you're immature and and like I

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Speaker 1: Like I have MA sure way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: to treat like crap your entire life, or you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Like people I think are for whatever reason, you're praying

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Speaker 1: it that way, like something that's unhealthy to begin with.

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Speaker 1: I think the truth is it's true the other way

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Speaker 2: I see yourself?

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Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily easy. It's healthy. People confuse the

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Speaker 2: Well that's fair, Like maybe there's just it's it's getting older,

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Speaker 2: it's it's healing. Maybe there's just parts to it. Because yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're talking to me, you know, ten years ago. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure it's be a whole different conversation. And I was

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Speaker 2: know that I was. I was missed too available. I

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Speaker 2: I feel like I let people treat me like crap,

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Speaker 2: like men that I was dating or seeing or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But now I'm married. But if I ever was not

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Speaker 2: not married, first I wouldn't date again. But number two, you.

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Speaker 1: Were not married married, that would make you married. So

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Speaker 1: not if you were not not married, you're still married.

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Speaker 1: So you want to be not married to this example.

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Speaker 1: In this example, but I was not married, I know

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Speaker 1: what you mean? Right to stop for a second. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, if I were not not that, I am married?

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Speaker 1: Not right, just like got it? Got it? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like I don't know I would be

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Speaker 2: got married or been with the same person for five years.

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Speaker 2: I think today i'd be different. I'm thirty years old.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow like it's good, it's gonna be different. Like I

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Speaker 1: Hopefully the patterns have been over for some time now,

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